Latest / The Vault: The Epstein Files / Mega Edition: Who Decided To Put Nicholas Tartaglione In A Cell With Jeffrey Epstein? (Part 2) (4/25/26)
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- 0:00Speaker 1: What's up, everyone, and welcome back to the Epstein Chronicles.
- 0:04On tonight's episode, we're going to talk about Nicholas Tartaglioni
- 0:08a little bit and how he will not face the
- 0:12death penalty in his homicide case. Now, Nicholas Tartaglioni, for
- 0:17those of you who might have forgotten, was the man
- 0:20who was sharing a cell with Jeffrey Epstein the first
- 0:23time around when Epstein allegedly attempted to kill himself. Now
- 0:29the question is, why was a man like Nicholas Tartaglioni
- 0:34in a cell with Jeffrey Epstein in the first place,
- 0:37a man who was alleged to have committed some pretty
- 0:42serious crimes against some pretty serious people over drugs. Does
- 0:48that sound like the proper cellmate for one of your
- 0:51most prized inmates. Somebody that you know is a risk,
- 0:56somebody that you know could be extorted or hurt or
- 1:01whatever else you want to add into that mix. That's
- 1:05the guy you want to put into the cell with Epstein. Right,
- 1:08But somehow this guy who was looking at four homicides
- 1:13ends up in a cell with Jeffrey Epstein and then
- 1:17just coincidentally, Epstein decides he's going to attempt to kill
- 1:21himself with this guy as his cellmate. Now, before we
- 1:25get into the article, the updated article from a couple
- 1:28of weeks ago about Tartaglioni and his current case status,
- 1:33I wanted to do a quick refresher. So I have
- 1:36an article from the New York Post, a relatively short
- 1:39article that details what Epstein told his lawyers and stuff
- 1:44the day that he allegedly tried to kill himself in
- 1:47that jail cell. And it certainly doesn't match up with
- 1:52what the official narrative ended up being. So let's jump
- 1:56into the first article from the New York Post and
- 1:59let see what Bruce Golding and Emily Saul have to say. Headline,
- 2:05Epstein told lawyers that sell may Nicholas Tartaglioni rouffed them up. Now,
- 2:10why would Jeffrey Epstein tell his lawyers that he got
- 2:13ruffed up by this dude? If he didn't, if he was,
- 2:16if he attempted sue, if he attempted suicide like the
- 2:19official narrative says, then why would he even bring Tartaglioni
- 2:23into it? And furthermore, Tartaglioni says, well, I've saved his life. Well,
- 2:28if that's the case, why wouldn't you stop him from
- 2:31even making the attempt. You're in that little cell together.
- 2:34You mean to tell me you aren't aware that he
- 2:36was attempting to kill himself. See, none of it make sense.
- 2:40And the official narrative that they've pitched to us, that
- 2:43doesn't make sense either. There's never been a proper look
- 2:47at what went on here as far as the public goes. Oh,
- 2:51I'm sure that everybody trusts Bill Barr, right, Republicans, Democrats,
- 2:55everybody loves Darth Barr said. Nobody ever, certainly have never
- 3:00trusted Bill Barr, And honestly, I don't know anybody who does.
- 3:04So him telling me that he saw video or he
- 3:07has confirmed this or that is not very reassuring. And frankly,
- 3:11I don't believe what he has to say. Jeffrey Epstein
- 3:16told his lawyers that a hulking ex cop inflicted the
- 3:20injuries that left him nearly unconscious in his cell. Last month,
- 3:23A source close to the convicted pedophiles case told The Post,
- 3:27I mean, how how isn't there more being made out
- 3:30of that? When you talk to the legacy media, you
- 3:32know you had like the New York Times article that
- 3:34tried to wrap things up with a nice, pretty little bow,
- 3:37talking about how you know it's been solved and there's
- 3:40nothing here. I don't buy any of that, right, especially
- 3:45this first time around. What happened in this cell the
- 3:47first time around is even more dodgy than him dying
- 3:51in the cell alone. You don't just get ruffed up
- 3:55when you're in a cell with a guy like tartag
- 3:58Leoni on your own. You didn't just try and commit
- 4:00suicide all of a sudden. I just don't buy it.
- 4:03And there has never been a real good or proper
- 4:07examination into any of this. The footage gets lost, the
- 4:11cameras aren't turned on. I mean, are you kidding me?
- 4:13Right now? Epstein was treated for neck injuries following the
- 4:18July twenty third incident inside the Metropolitan Correctional Center in
- 4:22Lower Manhattan. Law enforcement officials have said at the time,
- 4:26Epstein was sharing a cell with former Westchester County cop
- 4:30Nicholas Tartaglioni, who faces the death penalty a death penalty
- 4:34trial in four drug related slayings upstate. Now again, this
- 4:39dude clipped people over drug trafficking, and the people that
- 4:44he ended up killing according to these reports, according to
- 4:48what prosecutors say, they were operators for the cartel. So
- 4:53that tells you the kind of serious player that Tartaglioni is.
- 4:57You don't get involved in something like this as a
- 5:00trafficker millions of dollars kilo's worth of blow and then
- 5:04have the audacity to execute operators from the cartel if
- 5:10you're not a serious person who's capable of serious, serious crimes.
- 5:13So again I ask you, is this the right guy
- 5:16to be in a jail cell with Jeffrey Ebstein. Epstein
- 5:22told his lawyers that the cop roughed him up, and
- 5:25that's why they got him off Suicide Watch, the sore, said.
- 5:29Tartaglione's lawyer, Bruce Barkett disputed that account, saying I spoke
- 5:33to his lawyers and they never hinted at that to me.
- 5:36But he must have said something to get off Suicide Watch.
- 5:39Of course he said something. This dude definitely tuned them up,
- 5:42in my opinion, and I honestly believe that I don't
- 5:46think that Epstein had any desire to kill himself, certainly
- 5:49not at this point. This first attempt. Now the second
- 5:52attempt or the second time around when he ended up
- 5:56dying still debatable. I've said it a million times. I'm
- 5:59not too sure what happened in that cell. We haven't
- 6:02seen all of the evidence. Can we see some of
- 6:03the video please. All we're going on is what the
- 6:06official narrative has given us. And frankly, again, I have
- 6:10little faith in the official narrative. But this first time around,
- 6:15when he was in the cell with Tartaglioni, none of
- 6:18that makes sense to me. None of it has ever
- 6:20made sense to me. And the fact that it was
- 6:22basically brushed under the rug in the aftermath of Epstein's death,
- 6:28that doesn't make sense to me either. I do know
- 6:33that Nick was not brought up on any charges at
- 6:36all in the institution, so they cleared them bark It said,
- 6:39Oh well, that's that's nice, you know, because the institution
- 6:42is just the infallible institution. They cleared him because they
- 6:45didn't want to deal with it, right, more egg on
- 6:47their face. Oh man, now we got to deal with
- 6:50this shit. Epstein gets assaulted by this idiot we put
- 6:52in the cell with him. And meanwhile, another thing about Tartaglioni,
- 6:56which is crazy, is a few weeks before he was
- 6:59even put into the cell with Jeffrey Epstein. They found
- 7:02a contraband cell phone in this dude's cell. So you
- 7:06get moved to a better environment, meaning off the main line,
- 7:12and put into a cell with Jeffrey Epstein for what reason.
- 7:15The dude should have been in solitary confinement by himself
- 7:18if he was found with contraband, But somehow he ends
- 7:22up in this cell with Jeffrey Epstein, and there's still
- 7:24again no logical explanation for any of that. It's simply
- 7:31patently false to say that Epstein did anything other than
- 7:33to try to kill himself at least twice and succeeded.
- 7:36When he succeeded, Barket added, we were a little worried
- 7:39that we would make up something to get out of
- 7:41Suicide Watch or try and argue for Bell, But it's
- 7:44pretty clear what happened given the end result here. Oh yeah,
- 7:47pretty clear what happened anything to get your client off right,
- 7:52And now that we know that Tartaglioni is not even
- 7:55going to face the death penalty, it's probably a good
- 7:57thing that they fought this because he could have he
- 8:00could have got stuck with another charge here if he
- 8:02was found at fault, but I highly doubt that anyone
- 8:06even investigated it. Remember Tartaglione didn't decide to put himself
- 8:11into the jail cell with Jeffrey Epstein. The administrators of
- 8:14the facility did. Who made that call? Can we talk
- 8:16to that person? Can that person get put under oath
- 8:19in front of Congress? Can we have real examinations of
- 8:22what went on here? Or no. The revelation came as
- 8:27Manhattan Federal Judge Richard Berman, who was overseeing the child
- 8:31sex trafficking case against Epstein, released a Monday letter to
- 8:35MCC's Warden in which he said that what happened on
- 8:38July twenty third remained an open question and it still
- 8:41does even Berman, the judge, says it was an open question.
- 8:46So where are all of these hard charging reporters that
- 8:51are all over the place allegedly how about you dig
- 8:56into this part of the story. To my knowledge, it
- 9:01has never been definitively explained what the Bureau of Prisons
- 9:05concluded about that incident. Berman wrote, absolutely right. In a
- 9:09response dated that same day, Warden, Lemene and Die said
- 9:13that an internal investigation was completed, but noted that current
- 9:17investigations by the FBI and the Justice Department Office of
- 9:21Inspector General will include this incident as well. Yeah, did it.
- 9:25Let me ask you a question. With that great report
- 9:27by the New York Times, did it include anything about Tartaglioni.
- 9:30It certainly didn't. And I asked the author at the
- 9:33time about that too. Of course, you know, never get
- 9:36anywhere with it. It's just almost laughable at this point,
- 9:42because if I don't laugh about it, it'll be completely
- 9:45frustrating the way they go about it. There are certain
- 9:48things in this story that need to be exposed, and
- 9:52this is certainly one of them. This whole entire episode
- 9:55here of Tartaglioni in the jail cell with Epstein is
- 9:59just so out of control. Accordingly, I cannot divulge any
- 10:06information about the prior investigation at this time. And DIY said,
- 10:10and remember he told that to the judge. It wasn't
- 10:12like someone asked him, you know, at a press conference.
- 10:17Hey can you tell us about what happened with Tartaglioni.
- 10:20This is the judge asking, and he says, nah, sorry,
- 10:22there's an investigation under way. The same excuse they use
- 10:25all the time when they don't want you to know
- 10:27what's going on. On Tuesday, Attorney General William Barr ordered
- 10:32the removal of Ndie from his post at the MCC
- 10:35after ripping the serious irregularities at this facility during a
- 10:39speech the previous day in New Orleans. Oh yeah, you know,
- 10:42because Bill Barr is so great at his job. How
- 10:45did it work out for everybody with that moron running
- 10:48the show? All right? So, now that we have the
- 10:51refresher course of what Tartaglioni's role is here and the
- 10:56question asked why he was in the cell with Epstein,
- 11:00jump into this next article from the Lowhood. And this
- 11:04is a paper from Westchester County, New York, the Lower
- 11:08Hudson Valley. And this is an article that was authored
- 11:12by Jonathan Bandler, headline lawyer's hopeful Nicholas Tartaglioni won't face
- 11:18death penalty as trial set and homicide case. Twelve times
- 11:23since last March, the US Department of Justice has reversed
- 11:27course and notified accused killers they would no longer face
- 11:31the death penalty. And I'm not really too big on
- 11:35the death penalty, to be honest with you, unless there's
- 11:38overwhelming evidence of course then for sure, But I just
- 11:41think that there's way too many instances of their being
- 11:45shoddy evidence when it comes to something as serious as
- 11:49taking someone's life. But when you look at cases like
- 11:52this and the evidence is overwhelming, I honestly think that
- 11:56this is the perfect example of what a death penalty
- 11:59case should be. Multiple homicides, multiple people murdered. Dude's an
- 12:04next copy knows better. So I would think long and
- 12:07hard if I was the one passing the sentence here
- 12:10or dropping the judgment on him, if we were talking
- 12:14about the death penalty, definitely somebody that, in my opinion,
- 12:18you would have to at least entertain the possibility. That
- 12:24is a promising sign for opponents of capital punishment, but
- 12:27a far cry from the end of the federal death
- 12:29penalty they had expected when Joe Biden became president. The
- 12:34piecemeal approach offers a glimmer of hope for Nicholas Tartaglioni,
- 12:37the ex police officer charged in White Plans Federal court
- 12:41in the killing of four men in Orange County in
- 12:43twenty and sixteen. So I guess when you're staring at
- 12:48a death sentence, any kind of hope is good. I
- 12:52can't imagine sitting there every day wondering what your fate's
- 12:55gonna be. But also I would never kill anybody and
- 12:58find myself sitting in a jail cell. But anyway, so
- 13:01there's that. Tartaglioni's trial has finally been scheduled for March
- 13:06twenty twenty three, nearly seven years after the quadruple homicide,
- 13:11but it could be moved up if the defense succeeds
- 13:13in getting the Department of Justice to reverse course on
- 13:17the death penalty. So he's being charged with the death penalty.
- 13:20Now the question is is that death penalty going to
- 13:24stick or is he just going to end up getting
- 13:26life in prison, because I highly doubt he's going to
- 13:29get off considering the evidence that they have, I highly
- 13:33highly doubt he's going to get off. The lead defense lawyer,
- 13:38Bruce Barkett, has declined to reveal any details of the
- 13:41defense case for why his client should not face capital punishment,
- 13:46just as he was mum four years ago when a
- 13:48similar similar effort failed under the Trump administration. Tartaglioni was
- 13:54a retired briarcliff manor cop who had also worked in
- 13:57Yonkers Mount Verning and Paul. So he's from my neck
- 14:01of the woods. And I've told the story before on
- 14:04the podcast, but one of my uncles was actually friendly
- 14:08with uh Tartaglioni's brother growing up, and they used to
- 14:12call him Tat tat in the neighborhood. Now, I wish
- 14:15I had more to give you, but that's all my
- 14:17uncle really had. They weren't, like, you know, super close
- 14:20or anything, just like neighborhood friends. But it's a small world,
- 14:24isn't it. And when I first was looking at this
- 14:26case and and and you know, saw this part of it,
- 14:30I just shook my head considering where this guy was from.
- 14:33I mean, it's crazy. I know a lot of cops
- 14:37that work in Yonkers, and for the most part, they're
- 14:39all really good people. So just doesn't shock me though
- 14:43to see a cop involved in something like this. Unfortunately,
- 14:47there's always good and there's always bad, no matter what
- 14:50the profession is. And some people like Tartaglioni, they get
- 14:54things a bit twisted up in their head and they
- 14:57think that they're above the law when they're suppose to
- 15:00be enforcing the law. He was arrested in December twenty sixteen,
- 15:06eight months after four men disappeared from a bar in
- 15:09Chester in Orange County that was run by Tartaglioni's brother.
- 15:14The day after his arrests, the bodies of Martin Luna,
- 15:17Miguel Luna, Urbano Santiago, and Hector Gutiades were discovered by
- 15:23the FBI and state police on property Tartaglioni had been
- 15:26renting at the time of the disappearance. So you see
- 15:29about the evidence here, right, pretty grim when you're talking
- 15:33about against Tartaglioni. You know, you get these bodies are
- 15:37found on your property that you're renting after being at
- 15:40a bar that your brother owns. It doesn't look good
- 15:44for you. Doesn't look too good for you at all.
- 15:48Tartaglioni is charged with conspiracy to sell cocaine and kidnapping
- 15:53and murder and furtherance of the conspiracy. Now what's interesting
- 15:57is if Tartaglioni gets convicted of this, with which I
- 16:00think he will, he's gonna have to hit the federal line.
- 16:03And A he's an ex cop, so that's a mark
- 16:06against him. B If he you know, if he did
- 16:11clip these people, which it looks like he did. These
- 16:13are cartel operatives. So you know that the cartel hasn't
- 16:17forgotten that Tartaglioni was trying to steal their blow, you know,
- 16:22trying to get in on their action. So they're going
- 16:24to have access to him in whatever federal facility he
- 16:27ends up in. If it ends up federal, or even
- 16:30if it's in New York, they definitely have a way
- 16:32to reach out and touch you. So you got to
- 16:35think that Tartaglioni, you'll get pceed up if and when
- 16:38his prison sentence starts. According to the prosecutors, Martin Luna
- 16:45had owed money for a drug deal. He was lured
- 16:47to the Liquid Lounge on April eleventh, twenty sixteen, and
- 16:51brought with him his nephew Miguel, his niece's fiance Santiago,
- 16:55and family friend Gutierrez, none of whom had anything to
- 16:59do with the drug deal. Well, that's questionable at best, Right,
- 17:03you're going there for a drug deal. What do you
- 17:06think he's bringing you there for. Obviously he was probably
- 17:09bringing these dudes there for muscle, right, But still does
- 17:12that mean they deserve to get killed over a drug
- 17:14deal gone bad? Absolutely not. And anybody who is capable
- 17:19of killing people over drugs is most certainly capable of
- 17:23assaulting a guy like Jeffrey Epstein in a confined environment
- 17:27like a jail cell. No At the bar, Prosecutors alleged
- 17:34Tartaglioni strangled Martin Luna with a zip tie before taking
- 17:38his body to the property. His co conspirators brought the
- 17:41others there, where each of the three were shot in
- 17:44the head. Prosecutors accused Tartaglioni of shooting one of the men.
- 17:48Biden's campaign pledged to end capital punishment at the federal level,
- 17:52has so far not led to an administration policy. Yeah,
- 17:56there's been a whole lot of that. Huh. Unfortunately, when
- 17:59we had the change over from Trump to Biden, didn't
- 18:01I tell you, folks, it's going to be the same old,
- 18:03same old. Don't expect these radical changes, because that's not
- 18:07how it works. Those who were in power, the very
- 18:11few who were in control, they're still going to be
- 18:14in control no matter who the president is. Last summer,
- 18:18Attorney General Merrick Garland, another failure, issued a moratorium on
- 18:22federal executions while a review of Trump administration death penalty
- 18:26protocol changes was ongoing. But there has been no blanket
- 18:30policy on emptying federal death row or seeking the death
- 18:34penalty and pending in future cases. Like I said earlier,
- 18:38I think that we have to be very, very careful
- 18:40when it comes to sentencing somebody to death. And if
- 18:45the Biden administration is taking their time to review this,
- 18:47I think that's a good idea. Take as much time
- 18:51as you need to review something as serious as this.
- 18:55It looks like Garland is trying to fix the death penalty.
- 18:58It doesn't look like he's trying to end the death penalty,
- 19:01said Robert Dunham, director of the Death Penalty Information Center
- 19:04in Washington, DC. He pointed to conflicting signals that make
- 19:08it difficult to predict where the DOJ is headed. And
- 19:12you see that a lot with the Department of Justice
- 19:14in general, a lot of conflicting signals. You don't know
- 19:18which way they're going to go. One person comes in
- 19:21and you have a drastic change. Then the next person
- 19:23comes in, they change it. There's no consistent consistency and
- 19:27certainly no equity in the law. On the one hand,
- 19:32prosecutors have opted not to seek the death penalty in
- 19:35some recent cases. One involved the killing of a law
- 19:38enforcement officer in California, a case in which the Trump
- 19:42DOJ would have likely sought the death penalty. On the
- 19:45other hand, the DOJ is still defending death sentences on appeal. Well,
- 19:49they have to. What are they going to do if
- 19:50it's on appeal. They can't just drop all of those
- 19:53appeals in the middle of the cases. They'll get absolutely
- 19:56fried by the media and pundits and people looking to
- 20:00score political points. Well, one percent, you can't just drop
- 20:04that stuff on appeal. You have to see it through.
- 20:06And let's be honest, a lot of the people who
- 20:08we're talking about here are pretty bad people for the
- 20:11most part. Now, don't get me wrong. There's definitely some
- 20:14innocent people who get caught up and end up on
- 20:17death row. And that for me is enough to be
- 20:20very very guarded and very strict about the death penalty
- 20:24and who gets it. Cassandra sub Stubbs, director of the
- 20:29Capital Punishment Project at the American Civil Liberties Union, said
- 20:33the moratorium at the gradual and the gradual about face
- 20:36on seeking the death penalty or a good start, but
- 20:39the lack of more extensive policy decisions is frustrating. It's
- 20:43encouraging that it's moving in the right direction, she said.
- 20:46The discouraging piece is, while it's a significant number, it's
- 20:50only half of the pending cases. The DOJ's withdrawal of
- 20:54the of the twelve notices of intent came in nine
- 20:57cases spread out around the country, in states that have
- 21:00the death penalty and those that don't. So again, whenever
- 21:05you get a new regime that comes in, they go
- 21:09over everything that the previous regime did with a fine
- 21:12tooth comb, and more times than not they get rid
- 21:15of a lot of policies and institute their own. That's
- 21:18just what happens when people get elected. Well, there is
- 21:22no clear common thread, one possible pattern does not bode
- 21:26well for Tartaglioni. None of the other cases involved more
- 21:29than two victims, and that's a big deal. I think
- 21:32that's a huge deal. Honestly, when you have multiple victims,
- 21:35we're talking serial killer here type shit, right, What is
- 21:37it more than three murders or whatever spread out during
- 21:41a certain period of time for a serial killer. But
- 21:43the point stands, if you've got three or four bodies
- 21:46under your belt, that's definitely not a good look for
- 21:48a jury or people who are going to decide your fate.
- 21:54Tartaglionis is one of six death penalty cases of the
- 21:57twenty three still pending that have at least four victims.
- 22:01Barkett would not say whether the defense has offered new
- 22:04details related to Tartaglioni, or whether they are relying on
- 22:08similarities to any of the other withdrawn cases to convince
- 22:12the government. Well, maybe you should give them some evidence
- 22:15about Jeffrey Epstein. Maybe you should talk about that a
- 22:18little bit. Nicholas Tartaglioni. And I'm real interested to see
- 22:22what kind of sentence he gets here. If he gets
- 22:24a soft sentence, boy, that's gonna set some people off,
- 22:28I'll tell you that much. It is possible that they
- 22:34are citing the harsh conditions of pre trial detention Tartaglioni
- 22:38faced at the troubled Metropolitan Correctional Center in Lower Manhattan.
- 22:42Life saving efforts by Tartaglioni when he was in law
- 22:45enforcement are almost certainly part of the defense mitigation efforts,
- 22:49and his lawyers could be including details of when Tartaglioni
- 22:53shared a cell with financier pedophile and accuse sex trafficker
- 22:58Jeffrey Ebstein All Boy That would be interesting, wouldn't it.
- 23:02That would be real interesting, wouldn't it. I wonder what
- 23:05he has to share about that. Barkett has said that
- 23:09Tartaglioni intervened during Epstein's failed suicide attempt in July twenty nineteen.
- 23:15Tartaglioni was no longer his cell mate when Epstein succeeded
- 23:19in killing himself the following month. Now, again, why was
- 23:23Tartaglioni in that jail cell? Was he put there to
- 23:27send a message to Jeffrey Epstein? Look, bro, if you
- 23:30don't kill yourself, this is what you have to look
- 23:32forward to the whole entire time you're in jail, So
- 23:34you better fucking kill yourself. And then, knowing that he'd
- 23:37get moved out of the cell, he just denied that
- 23:39he ever did anything. That's certainly a scenario that has
- 23:43legs in my opinion. It certainly is a scenario that
- 23:47bears the weight of the facts, and short of any
- 23:51other evidence being provided or quality theories being provided, That's
- 23:57what I'm working with right now. This dude definitely was
- 24:00in there to rough Jeffrey Epstein up or ended up
- 24:03roughing Jeffrey Epstein. Up for whatever reason. But to think
- 24:07that this guy is some kind of hero who stepped
- 24:09in to save Epstein's life while he was trying to
- 24:11kill himself is just ridiculous. US District Judge Kenneth Carris
- 24:19was adamant during a conference last month that Tartaglioni's trial
- 24:23would begin next March at the latest. Barkett assured him
- 24:27that the effort to complete the deauthorization package would not
- 24:31distract the defense team from moving forward on other pre
- 24:34trial motions. To Caris, the defense and prosecutors reached agreement
- 24:38on the schedule leading up to the trial, but they
- 24:41differed on how long of a break they should have
- 24:44between the guilt phase and the penalty phase if Tartaglioni
- 24:47is convicted of any of the death eligible charges. Prosecutors
- 24:51wanted a week. The defense sought up to four weeks.
- 24:55So they'll probably split the baby and it'll probably end
- 24:58up being two weeks. That's what we saw during the
- 25:02lead up to the Maxwell trial, and it seems to
- 25:05be the way these things work. The judge usually splits
- 25:08the baby here and they'll get half of what they want.
- 25:12It appeared Kris might disappoint both sides. He said he
- 25:16was inclined to start a penalty phase a day or
- 25:18two after the initial verdict, worried that a longer break
- 25:21would be unfair to the jurors. Well, that's what he
- 25:24wants and what he's saying he wants. But like I said,
- 25:27I wouldn't be shocked to see this end up ten
- 25:29fourteen days, you know, between the two. So we'll have
- 25:33to see and we'll continue to follow it because, like
- 25:35I said earlier, I think this is a portion of
- 25:38the situation with Epstein in the mcc at that jail
- 25:42cell that needs more discussion, needs to be looked at
- 25:46in a more clinical fashion with a surgical type of
- 25:52eye because there is no excuse or reason that anyone
- 25:57has presented to me as to why Epstein should be
- 26:00sharing a cell with Nicholas dar TAGLIONI. All right, folks,
- 26:05that's gonna do it for tonight's update on the way
- 26:08some context episodes like always and then tomorrow morning, right
- 26:13back at it. If you'd like to contact me, you
- 26:15can do that at Bobby Kapucci at ProtonMail dot com.
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- 26:37I will talk to you all tomorrow and I hope
- 26:39you all have a great night. The conditions plus what's
- 26:43up everyone, and welcome back to the Epstein Chronicles. A
- 26:47recent report by the AP detailed the lead up to
- 26:51Jeffrey Epstein's death and what happened in the aftermath. The
- 26:56only problem is, well, they forgot a few key points,
- 26:59and one of those key points is the fact that
- 27:02Jeffrey Epstein set himself, that he was attacked physically by
- 27:06Nicholas Tartaglioni, but there was no mention of that in
- 27:10the AP report, and no mention of Tartaglioni at all.
- 27:15You would think that this guy who shared a cell
- 27:17with Epstein the first time around when Epstein allegedly tried
- 27:22to kill himself would be a topic of conversation, especially
- 27:25considering we've never had any real answers about Tartaglioni or
- 27:30what he was doing in that jail cell. Can anyone
- 27:33explain why a man charged with four homicides, is in
- 27:36a jail cell with one of the most protected or
- 27:39should be protected people in the whole entire prison system,
- 27:43and then the audacity to act like nothing happened in
- 27:47that jail cell, to act like Jeffrey Epstein tried to
- 27:50kill himself that first time around in that jail cell,
- 27:53when we have no video corroboration, We have nobody in
- 27:57the jail cell with them but him and Tartaglio and
- 28:00Epstein tells one story and Tartaglioni told a different story.
- 28:04But we're gonna believe what Nicholas Tartaglioni said. Sorry, I
- 28:08don't buy it. And for me, Tartaglioni was put in
- 28:11that jail cell to send a message, and that message
- 28:14to Jeffrey Epstein was look, either we're gonna do it,
- 28:17or you're going to do it. You decide, And Tartaglioni
- 28:20was the vehicle for that message to get there. What
- 28:23other excuse is there for him being in that jail cell,
- 28:26for the cameras being broken, and then for the authorities
- 28:30in the jail to largely just ignore Epstein saying that
- 28:33he was assaulted by Tartaglioni. The jail said that, you know,
- 28:37they performed their investigation and they found no evidence that
- 28:41Tartaglioni assaulted Epstein, and their evidence for that, well, just
- 28:45trust us. That's basically what they've told us throughout this
- 28:48whole entire thing, And if you want to trust them,
- 28:51that is most certainly your business. Me personally, I don't
- 28:55trust a word that these people are telling me, especially
- 28:58when it comes to what happened to Epstein in that
- 29:01jail cell. Today, we're going to go back to twenty
- 29:04nineteen and we're going to take a look at an
- 29:06article from Fox News headline Jeffrey Epstein feared cellmate, a
- 29:12muscle bound X cop charged in murder who was moved
- 29:15before the financier's death. This article was authored by Nicole Dara,
- 29:23A hulking X cop facing the death penalty on federal
- 29:26murder and drug charges, was reportedly Jeffrey Epstein's cellmate at
- 29:30Manhattan's Metropolitan Correctional Center, and an official says Epstein might
- 29:35have feared the former police officer who was questioned after
- 29:39the disgraced financier pedophiles apparent suicide attempt last month and
- 29:44who was transferred out of Epstein's cell shortly before the
- 29:47sixty six year old died on Saturday. So again I
- 29:52ask you, what the hell was this guy doing in
- 29:54the jail cell with Jeffrey Epstein in the first place?
- 29:57Has anyone ever answered that question? Don't you think that's
- 30:00kind of important? Don't you think that the AP, when
- 30:03they're digging into their story, would want to know a
- 30:06little bit more about what went down in that cell
- 30:09that first time around? Because I have a hard time
- 30:11believing that Epstein tried to kill himself in that cell
- 30:15with Tartaglioni present, especially considering if we're gonna believe Tartaglioni's
- 30:21story of him being this white knight. If that's the case,
- 30:25why did he even let it get to the point
- 30:26where Epstein had anything around his neck? Have you seen
- 30:30how big this dude is? He could have picked Epstein
- 30:32up and broke him in half. So you wait until
- 30:35Epstein is basically choking himself, and then you intervene. How
- 30:40does that make sense to anybody? It doesn't, And that's
- 30:43the story that they've pitched this whole entire time. So
- 30:47I don't know how people have bought it. I don't
- 30:48know how people continue to buy it, and I don't
- 30:50know how people are so willing to believe the official
- 30:54narrative here that Epstein committed suicide. Again, look, I am
- 30:58very agnostic about it. I am willing to follow the
- 31:01evidence wherever it goes. But before we get to the end,
- 31:05we have to start at the beginning. And still, the
- 31:09very beginning of all of this, when Epstein allegedly tried
- 31:12to commit suicide, started with Nicholas Tartaglioni in that jail cell.
- 31:18So anyone who's not starting at that point is missing
- 31:21a gigantic piece of the story. And now the real
- 31:24question becomes, why was Tartaglioni in that jail cell and
- 31:28who placed him there? Nobody has ever told us that either,
- 31:32So that's pretty important. Let's find to put him in
- 31:35that jail cell and put them under oath and ask
- 31:37them why. Nicholas Tartaglioni, who had been a Briarcliff matter
- 31:42cop in Westchester County, New York, was charged in twenty
- 31:46sixteen with the deaths of four men stemming from an
- 31:49alleged cocaine drug conspiracy. Epstein was housed at the MCC
- 31:53federal lockup with the fifty one year old former cop
- 31:57after his July ars for sex trafficking. Taglionis attorney told
- 32:01Fox News on Monday, Tartaglioni was transferred out of Epstein's
- 32:07cell in the facility, a special housing unit, a heavily
- 32:10secured part of the MCC that separates high profile inmates
- 32:15from the general population. After epstein was placed on suicide watch.
- 32:19Tartaglioni's attorney, Bruce Barkett, said it was not clear why
- 32:23he was transferred. Oh, I'll tell you why. They wanted
- 32:26him out of Dodge. And you see that Nicholas Tartaglioni. Well,
- 32:30he didn't get the death penalty, right. I wonder why
- 32:34was there some sort of deal worked out. He doesn't
- 32:37talk about what happened in that jail cell, and we
- 32:40won't pursue the death penalty. Look, I don't know what
- 32:43kind of deal they worked out, but a guy who
- 32:47kills people in cold blood the way Tartaglioni did, you
- 32:50would think that a guy like that should get the
- 32:53death penalty, right, or at the very least not be
- 32:56in a jail cell with Jeffrey Epstein. But I guess
- 32:58I'm the asshole for asking these questions. Huh. The most
- 33:02recent inmate of sign to Epstein's cell was transferred on Friday,
- 33:06just hours before his death, a source said, And just
- 33:09a coincidence as well, Right, the next roommate gets transferred out,
- 33:13and then a few hours later Epstein kills himself. Nothing
- 33:17to see here, folks, just systemic errors. There's nothing else
- 33:20going on here. Nobody just you know, fell asleep at
- 33:23the switch on purpose or anything like that. A little
- 33:26more than two weeks before his death, Epstein was placed
- 33:29on suicide watch and required to have daily psychiatric evaluations
- 33:34after being discovered in his cell semi unconscious with bruising
- 33:38on his neck. Epstein was recently taken off suicide watch,
- 33:42but it was not clear when a sour's familiar with
- 33:45the matter told Fox News, Well, that's because breaking news.
- 33:49He wasn't suicidal. Okay, how much more clear do we
- 33:52have to be? He didn't tell one single person that
- 33:55he was going to kill himself, So I don't even
- 33:58understand where this whole, oh suicidal thing comes from, unless,
- 34:02of course, it's part of the crafted narrative and the
- 34:05cynic in me, says, well, it certainly is, because there's
- 34:09no other excuse for them not just being completely honest
- 34:13with what happened here. Can we get a full accounting
- 34:15please about Nicholas Tartaglioni. Is there ever going to be
- 34:19some sort of congressional hearing that calls all of these
- 34:23people to the carpet. Of course there's not going to be,
- 34:26and that's because they have to protect all their buddies. Right.
- 34:30Though a suicide attempt was suspected of causing the injuries,
- 34:33sources at the time told WNBC that authorities hadn't ruled
- 34:37out an assault on Epstein, and an inmate identified as
- 34:41Tartaglioni was questioned about the incident. Tartaglioni reportedly told officials
- 34:46he didn't see anything related to the apparent suicide attempt
- 34:50and maintained he didn't touch Epstein. Barkett said the two
- 34:53men were in the same unit and doing well, adding
- 34:56rumors Tartaglioni may have attacked Epstein are absolutely not true.
- 35:01So they're in a jail cell together, but he didn't
- 35:03see anything at all, and he didn't touch Epstein. Who
- 35:06believes this? Do you believe it? I don't. I guess
- 35:09the jail officials did, though, because you know, they just
- 35:12let him off. We're gonna have a talk with Tartaglioni,
- 35:14and if he tells us he didn't do this, fine,
- 35:16we're gonna let him off because you know, a guy
- 35:18who's in jail for a quadruple homicide is obviously the
- 35:22bastion of truth and somebody that can be trusted to
- 35:25tell you the truth said nobody ever. Any suggestion that
- 35:29mister Tartaglioni assaulted anyone is a complete fabrication, Barket said
- 35:34in a statement. According to the Journal News, this story
- 35:37is being leaked to retaliate against mister Tartaglioni for complaining
- 35:42to the court about the deplorable conditions at the mcc Oh. Yeah,
- 35:47that's exactly what it is, retaliation because Tartaglioni complained. Mister
- 35:52Tartaglioni is an absolute choir boy and certainly not capable
- 35:56of ever causing harm to anybody, right, just ask Martin
- 35:59Luna's fan about Nicholas Tartaglioni. Barkett suggested the allegations about
- 36:05his client may have been leaked by someone trying to
- 36:08embarrass Epstein and cast some shade on Nick. Nobody leaked anything, Okay,
- 36:13your client, Nicholas Tartaglioni assaulted Jeffrey Epstein. That's my position,
- 36:18And after all these years and all this evidence, that
- 36:21position is only growing stronger. In fact, a law enforcement
- 36:25source told the New York Daily News last month that
- 36:28Tartaglioni claimed that he helped Epstein after he found him
- 36:31unconscious in his cell during his reported suicide attempt. After
- 36:36he found him unconscious, where were they in the Serengetti
- 36:40the cells like six x ten. He didn't have to
- 36:42go on an expedition to the Himalayas to find Epstein. Okay,
- 36:46So don't give me that he had no idea what
- 36:48was going on. He was sitting there right in the cell.
- 36:50If Epstein was going to kill himself in that jail cell,
- 36:53Tartaglioni watched it from the very beginning, and if he
- 36:56wanted to stop him, he would have stopped them at
- 36:59the very beginning. But he didn't do that, right and
- 37:01why not, Well, because he's the one who assaulted Epstein.
- 37:05Now run home and tell that The source seemingly confirmed
- 37:09Barket's assertions about the deplorable conditions at the facility, which
- 37:13border on inhumane, the attorney described the Fox News on Monday.
- 37:18At the end of the day, the facility is run
- 37:20with a bad combination of laziness and cruelty, and this
- 37:24is one of the results, Barkett said, noting he hopes
- 37:27the investigation into Epstein's apparent suicide includes the manner in
- 37:32which the facility is run and the conditions under which
- 37:35inmates are forced to live. There's no doubt that it
- 37:38was run completely terribly and that the facility should have
- 37:42been shut down, but that doesn't explain what happened in
- 37:46that jail cell and leading up to Jeffrey Epstein's death.
- 37:49Way too many coincidences that have not been explained. If
- 37:53you can explain those coincidences with facts, I am all yours.
- 37:57You've got a guy who is a millionaire who is
- 37:59now living among rats and mold and wants to go home.
- 38:02The sword said, this is a disgusting place, and people
- 38:06there they treat you disgusting. Who wouldn't be suicidal in
- 38:09that kind of place. You have a silver spoon in
- 38:12your mouth, and then you're putting a cesspool. And that's
- 38:14what they've tried to say from the beginning, that because
- 38:17Epstein was some rich guy, there's no way that he
- 38:19could live in the conditions that he was living in,
- 38:22and those conditions forced him to commit suicide. I do
- 38:26not believe that. I think that Epstein thought he was
- 38:29going to get out, and I think that he was
- 38:31working towards getting released. So why would a guy with
- 38:35all that money, all that power, all that influence kill himself,
- 38:39especially when it comes on the back end of him
- 38:42obviously being assaulted in this jail cell. Barkett didn't dispute
- 38:47what Tartaglioni allegedly claimed. He did tell the Daily News
- 38:51his client and Epstein became more than cordial, and even
- 38:54went so far to say that the two became friends.
- 38:57Highly doubt that too, right, Oh yeah, look, me and Epstein,
- 39:03we were pals, says Tartaglioni. As Epstein's dead, nobody there
- 39:07to refute that, so why not run with that narrative
- 39:11in details? The attorney told Fox News on Monday that
- 39:15there was no reason for Epstein to fear Tartaglioni, and
- 39:19his sense is he did not fear Nick well, Epstein
- 39:22said differently, So we should listen to what Barkett says,
- 39:25but not what Epstein told the officials and other lawyers. Okay,
- 39:29I guess, but regardless, Epstein indeed might have been trying
- 39:33to get away from Tartaglioni. EO. Jung, the national President
- 39:37of the Council of Prison Locals C thirty three, told
- 39:40The Washington Post Tartaglioni is awaiting trial after investigators said
- 39:46he was involved in the kidnapping and killing of four
- 39:49men in twenty sixteen. In February twenty eighteen, while being
- 39:54held at MCC, Tartaglioni himself was assaulted, The Journal News reported.
- 40:00In the twenty eighteen attack, Barkett said Tartaglioni required reconstructive
- 40:04surgery after an ice socket bone was fractured. The attorney
- 40:09said at the time, in the special housing unit at MCC,
- 40:12where Epstein later was also housed, Tartaglioni was quite literally
- 40:17in a box, staring at walls. Not surprisingly, his mental
- 40:21health has declined. Well, he was found guilty of these crimes.
- 40:24So hope you enjoy the box, Tartaglioni. You're going to
- 40:27be there for the rest of your miserable life. Federal
- 40:30prosecutors reportedly planned to seek the death penalty against TARTAGLIONI
- 40:34oh convenient right that Merrick Garland steps in and stops
- 40:38the death penalty from taking place here. I know, I know,
- 40:41just another coincidence. Epstein was being held on child sex
- 40:46trafficking and conspiracy charges. After his July arrest. Prosecutors said
- 40:52he sexually abused dozens of young girls in his New
- 40:55York and Florida residences between two thousand and two and
- 40:58two thousand and five. Epstein pleaded not guilty and faced
- 41:02up the forty five years in prison if convicted. Famous,
- 41:06high profile and notorious prisoners, as well as those accused
- 41:09of sex crimes against children, are often given extra protection
- 41:14against attacks from other prisoners, but it was not immediately
- 41:17clear what specific precautions, if any, were taken in Epstein's case.
- 41:22None were taken. Okay, they put them in GP. For
- 41:25God's sakes, Why would you put somebody like this in GP. Now,
- 41:29obviously they moved them off of GP. But it shows
- 41:32you right from the very beginning what was going on here.
- 41:35And while there were systemic failures, it's rather obvious that
- 41:39to me anyway, Tartaglioni assaulted Jeffrey Epstein in that jail cell.
- 41:43Epstein was afraid of Tartaglioni and the MCC and the DOJ.
- 41:49They ignored what Epstein had to say, and then, after
- 41:51an investigation that obviously didn't include any eyewitnesses or cameras,
- 41:56the DOJ and the officials at the MCC walked away
- 42:00from it all saying, you know what, Yeah, Epstein tried
- 42:03to kill himself, nothing to do with our Taglione, a
- 42:06four time murderer who's in his cell. And then they
- 42:09expected you to believe it. The only problem is nobody's
- 42:13buying it. All right, folks, that's gonna do it for
- 42:16this one. All of the information that goes with the
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