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Let's Talk RCAs · United We Scan

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  Now, here are the host of The United, We scan podcast.
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  Welcome back everybody. We're on episode twenty sixth.
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  Kristin's going to be joining us a little bit later.
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  We're a little short on people today.
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  Bill is off on vacation and Mike is doing his State Convention,
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  so he won't be able to join us tonight but Kristin will be
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  joining us later and right now we've got Josh on.
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  So Josh, how was your week? We are weak was pretty good.
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  They've got found out towards the end of the week.
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  They have the rule Cattleman show later position of permit
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  again. So I am trying to get my
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  application filled out and for that I actually have a
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  supervisor that is going to give me the reference that it is
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  required or, you know, to apply. So I'm keeping my fingers Has
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  crossed but not holding my breath.
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  Hey, I've got this whole week and then part of the following
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  week and then it'll be months now and I'll be off for a week
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  and a half for my State Convention so which is father's
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  days that week Father's Day week.
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  So that'll be fun to be out of the office and away for a little
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  bit, but we can talk about that more next week.
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  Yeah. How's the disputes?
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  Go in your office, they get them all out.
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  Well, from what the 204 B was saying.
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  Who doesn't usually talk to me? That I Other than a class-action
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  dispute that I put in, and my ADR asked me to you, add a
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  secondary, zip code for that class action, which is where the
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  postmasters offices, which would Encompass the whole office of
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  Charlotte for which information, we found out at the last minute,
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  that should have been inclusive. What was mine?
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  There was one other person that may have filed as a acute that
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  was off on this or something. Or I'm not sure if it was only
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  some vacation during the time of the meeting, they'll survey.
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  But I don't know anything about what their dispute specifically,
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  were they out of, which is kind of disheartening a little bit
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  out of I think 18 routes. Those were the only disputes
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  because I know a bunch of people did go down.
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  So, I think a lot of people decided not to dispute just
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  because they're sick of dealing with it and didn't want to have
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  to put in the effort to deal with it.
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  Unfortunately, for my office, my postmaster made everybody
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  disputed And so this whole week, you know what it should have
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  been. I think in The 4400 routes in
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  the state of North Carolina and the North Carolina District, I
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  think my ADR said they were anticipating over 4000, just use
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  Yeah. Granted, I know each individual
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  item need to be its own dispute, so I don't know how many of
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  those translate to per round, but I like I said, I know, I
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  personally, I put this one in at like I said, as a class action
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  to cover all the other carriers, I / I'm sure there were errors
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  but I personally already, I was a 48k beforehand.
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  I came back. Back as a higher. 48k, I just
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  didn't want to give them more ammunition to cut more off of me
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  when it actually happened, you know, when they actually do cut.
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  So Yeah, but next time in October, I will be using a fine
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  tooth comb to go to that paperwork and find.
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  What? Doesn't add up.
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  Yeah, little very short notice for this and very short dispute
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  process. And I think, even now we still
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  don't have enough information to properly distribute this stuff,
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  but my week was pretty good. I mean, mail volume was actually
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  heavy for the first half of the week and then very light for the
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  last half of the week. Packages.
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  Amazon was extremely light. Yeah, Friday, for me, which was
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  surprising. We didn't get much Amazon, but
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  everybody in my office, got called into the postmasters
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  office to fill out. Dispute forms at the beginning
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  of the week to get everybody and every single route was disputed
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  in my office. So we're part of that group
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  that's actually disputing at all.
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  So he goes look that is the route didn't change and I still
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  disputed it. Get your boy.
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  You know what? I'm sure if you know if the
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  numbers don't add up the numbers don't add up.
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  You know, I'm playing and that was the point of the dispute
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  processes. If your numbers weren't adding
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  up based off of what information you were able to obtain, you
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  know, and I know it's a shame, I saw where the Facebook groups in
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  the last week or so that they went, they wanted to dispute
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  things. But they said, how can I just
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  cute if management is telling me they can't give me?
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  52 weeks worth of data from the reports.
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  How can I dispute? What was, you know, what is good
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  or bad? I was a unfortunately, it
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  doesn't help you for now. But what you can do is have your
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  management print, those reports out for you, daily going forward
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  and keep copies of them. Exactly.
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  And we have to do all the legwork, unfortunately we do.
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  But with the old count system, you kind of had to do the same
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  yourself. So really that was only two to
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  four week period versus a 52 week period now.
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  Yeah. So but if you have starting, you
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  know, if you go on on the computer with any spreadsheet
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  type program, you can kind of as you go, just fill it in and
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  it'll just add, you know, if you know what the code, you know,
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  the codes are you can put in the codes to add the next line, just
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  keep adding So you get, so you can get that cumulative, total
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  at the end rather than having to go through a Year's worth of
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  data all at once. Yeah, exactly.
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  So anyway, continuing on this week, we're going to talk about
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  relief carriers arcs RCA's and PTs and we have a special guest
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  with us. He is an RCA.
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  He asked to remain anonymous so we're going to call him Clyde.
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  Say hello Clyde and tell us a little bit about what's going on
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  in your world and how your week was.
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  Hello peoples, big fan of the podcast.
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  I appreciate you guys doing this.
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  I hadn't listened to every episode but most and then I
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  heard that a bill wasn't going to be here this week and I
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  thought I'd show people what grumpy really was and told
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  Kristen I was available. My week was good.
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  I work in a single route office and Washington.
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  Foothills of the Cascades foreign Birds familiar real
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  predictable lifestyle. Low hectic.
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  Is a it's it's not hectic at all.
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  In fact, a lot would call it boring.
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  So it's been good. I'm working only five days a
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  week. Wow, lucky you one right off the
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  so who covers the route when you're not there, postmaster who
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  need to get another RCA in there to cover when you're not there?
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  Yeah, them. Boy, yeah.
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  No, yeah, no. I'm on his ass about the scans
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  for sure. And we've been trying to hire
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  for about a year, maybe Flirtin With a year and a half and any
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  responses we get people. It's either they're driving
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  records or their inability to find the email in the junk mail
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  folder to move forward. So not a real, not a real
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  popular job like this. That and in this day and age,
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  people are not looking for that job for one day a week anymore.
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  And on top of that if they can't find it in a junk mail folder,
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  how can we trust them to use a scanner?
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  It is, it is a bit of an idiot filter and away.
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  So Kristin's going to be joining us later.
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  So we're going to start out with questions.
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  RCA's would have when being at the post office starting out and
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  Getting acquainted with what they're doing.
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  So Josh you have a question, go ahead and start this off.
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  Let's see. Let me start with Clyde.
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  How long have you been with the Post Office?
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  Three years. Three years.
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  Okay, see, the kind of season that this point have you always
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  been in this one? Route office?
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  Or yes. And I always will be until it
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  disappears in which case I'll move on to greener pastures, my
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  commute is currently four and a half miles and nine minutes and
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  I'm liking it I live on my route.
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  So I don't think I mean if they, if they make it interesting and
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  I make regular and start getting retirement benefits of my stick
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  around past but yeah, we'll see what happens with this whole s
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  DN c-- thing. If I've got my the correct
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  letters in their own land. What's that guy?
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  Because he's talking about is the consolidation.
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  Yeah, they moving you to a plant.
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  No, we perceive no word, at least through the management
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  side. I've just been following it on.
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  I forget how get close. Are you to the plant?
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  Yeah, so I don't know if you guys have seen the articles, I
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  don't know if it's to save the post office.com that puts this
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  out or something, but they've taken all the information.
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  The USPS has put out publicly regarding these consolidations
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  and they built an interactive map and the the proposed
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  locations and then they throw down.
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  What is it a 20 minute drive time for a radius and five
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  miles? 25 miles.
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  Well last I heard which was a year ago.
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  They were talking about any office within a 30-mile radius
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  of wherever these consolidated. Places, we're going to be.
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  Yeah, so I we sit right on the outside of of whatever that
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  original mileage was. I'm I mean, they've been talking
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  about this. What for well, way over a year,
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  anyway, in terms of implementing like what was the first one in
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  Georgia, somewhere on the east coast and what somewhere in
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  Atlanta, or New Orleans? Yeah.
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  So no we're are tiny little setup is right outside on the
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  actually tried to close it. 20 20, something years ago or no,
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  it was more because I think Clinton was in office at the
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  time and the local community raised hell and they kept it.
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  So they don't know anything about this consolidation plan
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  though. I'm waiting for for concrete
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  information before I accidentally leaked it to the
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  locals. Yeah, you accidentally under the
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  covers, you get out there. Hey, your post office is
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  closing. Yeah.
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  I want to stay here as much as they want to keep it here.
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  So we'll see. Right.
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  Well in the funny thing is is a lot of these offices are
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  consolidating routes but they're still going to be burning the
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  offices because of the storefront retail.
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  Yeah so the local mean you could still go there and the Box
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  sections can still go there and get their PO box.
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  Now they can still go there and buy there.
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  And for money orders or send their, you know, send their
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  packages off. That already know you.
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  I can tell you. That's not going to stick
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  around. That's not going to stick
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  around, though. I have another case Point here
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  is a not. There was an office near me that
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  the carriers were in and they move them to an Annex about 10
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  miles away from the office, and they were working the front
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  counter out of that office, and then, that office had something
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  happened to it. And so, they closed the office,
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  and then they just tore the office down.
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  Her Joy. Well, I
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  shifted was they were in a basically, the retail was a
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  storefront in a strip mall. So, I don't know, once they're,
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  you know, I heard rumors that once least was up, they were not
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  going to renew it. But the last I heard they were
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  still in that building. That was years ago but I know
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  like the carrier's. This is the second and third
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  building, some of these carriers you know, the truth will free
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  zones through my office. Now To of what the one on the
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  end came from one office because it's over overcrowding.
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  And the other one came the other two came from the same facility.
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  One came to my office, the other went to a different office that
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  other office got, or should say, station got overcrowded.
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  So, they move that zone back to our building.
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  And now it's a matter of we are the airport location, literally,
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  the two runways run. Literally one in front one in
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  back of our building. The airport has already told us,
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  they want their land back. We were supposed to be out like
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  a year probably sometime last year, but then they extend
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  allowed us to extend e. Or our lease for at least one
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  more year, because they've got a project going on.
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  And I guess there, they told us we can stay until that project
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  from plate. so, even if they don't do the consolidation in my
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  area, My office. The 50 router.
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  So, they're in my office are probably going to go to the
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  plant because it's I doubt, they're looking for another
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  building especially if this consolidation project is going
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  to go start spreading around eventually, but I heard that
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  Charlotte has been released from that list completely of
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  consolidations. So but again we'll see what
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  happens from the next couple of years.
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  Question that a lot of RCA's again lost to see a task is I
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  was told I'm only guaranteed one day a week.
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  Can I do anything to boost the amount of days that I work?
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  The amount of money I can make at the post office?
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  Now, you're guaranteed one day a week at your office.
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  Supposedly, unless you're on the J route.
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  Now that was a route this knowledge, a route, then you one
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  day every two weeks But he's right, you're not guaranteed any
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  days except for their vacation or sick.
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  Exactly. But you also, you could have the
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  opportunity of Amazon Sunday if your office does Amazon, but you
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  also can call around call their offices in the area see if they
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  need help. There's a lot of offices that
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  are short-handed now and they're desperate for help.
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  And if you're not working, you can go work at these other
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  offices. You have to get permission from
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  the postmaster there to go work for them and work it out with
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  your postmaster to make sure that they don't go.
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  Hey, I need you to come in and work at my office, because if
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  you volunteer at another office in your office calls, your
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  office takes priority. On the other hand, if your
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  postmaster tells you, you need to go to this office and do work
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  your post. Master can't pull you back to
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  do. Your route at your office
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  because you're already under the old scheduling at the other
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  office. Yes, so that's how it works.
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  If you volunteer, you could be recalled.
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  If you're told to go, you won't can't be recalled anyone on a
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  add on that. I'd just like to say that I'm
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  thankful that I don't have that problem.
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  Well, I think they'd be kind of screwed if they tried to do that
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  with you. Yeah, now is your office a
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  standalone where? I know it's or u.s. attached to
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  another office? Yeah.
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  Standalone, one ZIP code to counties.
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  We have three other offices. Probably each 15.
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  It's drive away, but they're all.
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  So crowded on this big room postmaster.
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  Yep. Okay, the next question we have
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  for RCA's so we have multiple routes in our office that are
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  down and we're not getting instructions.
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  So we're splitting the routes ourselves.
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  What do we do? First off management should be
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  telling you how to split the routes.
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  You should not be doing that on your own.
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  It is Management's job to manage how the routes get.
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  It is their job to tell you how to split the routes out, who's
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  taking what, and so on and so forth.
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  Make management do their job. On top of that, there are scans
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  you have to do for every route. No matter what.
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  And if you're splitting a route, make sure you talk with the
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  other carrier. This splitting the route with
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  you. If I find out, who's in putting
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  the extra scans for that route because the days, you guys are
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  splitting. It still count towards the total
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  evaluation for that route. There's a handy guide that was
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  put into the group on Facebook about splitting routes.
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  And you should look at that and see what actually can be input
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  for split routes. That should be input as given by
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  the rural letter carriers Association and consult with
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  your Local Union steward on that as well to try.
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  And make sure that you do it the right way to ensure you get the
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  maximum benefit for each route in your office.
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  Thoughts, I agree 100% with you. I will say, however, if once
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  management says James Clyde, Billy you guys are going to be
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  taking the split in this route. The three, you should know what
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  you do, and don't know what the route.
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  And if they don't specifically tell you work it out and say,
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  all right, I'm going to take this section.
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  You take the second, you take this section.
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  I'm going to, you know, I'll put it all up yet.
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  You guys put it on the street or whatever, unless they
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  specifically tell you they should be showing you what?
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  But if you guys know what your strong points are in regards to
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  that route, if not if it just says you three or splitting it,
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  you know, if that's all they say three, get together and say and
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  decide what's going to be the best, easiest quickest way to
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  get it tastes old down and delivered.
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  But like James said, it's supposed to be Management's job
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  to schedule and if their schedule includes splitting a
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  route, it's who's putting what? We're there were there.
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  Instructions and the original Rex guide, let's go with the
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  revised original Rex guide, the April 22 or their instructions.
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  On in there about how to handle the scans on Route splitting.
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  I don't, it's been a while since I read it through, and that's a
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  topic what a skipped because it didn't affect me.
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  I don't know. I think it was not in the
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  original. Yeah, last year, I don't think
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  they put anything out because of like everything else.
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  They didn't think about that. As an issue or they probably
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  figured that if people were splitting the route, it would be
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  thrown out like when you miss scans, but we're going to find
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  out that even even when you're missing.
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  Another big question that comes up.
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  As how do I handle second trips? If I drive a POV route, or if my
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  Lov won't hold, all the packages that are carried by Amazon,
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  especially those super large ones, you're still going to get
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  80, you're going to get green card.
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  Time for that. Anything you do after the route,
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  you go on p.m. casing your scanner because you're still
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  going to be assigned to the route on your time card.
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  And then you do an 80, you do your green card to match.
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  That. So whatever time you have p.m.
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  casing is the time you write on your card, your green card to go
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  out and deliver your second trip.
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  Then when you get back, you clock out right that time on
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  your green card and you're done for the day.
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  You got to make sure you do everything everything for the
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  route first before you go on p.m. casing and then you can do
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  your second trip now with that hold true for an RCA working a
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  route that's evaluated at less than 40 hours.
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  A week and they don't have at the end of this second trip.
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  Let's say it's Friday and they don't have 40 hours for the week
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  yet. Yes, it's still the same same
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  second trip rules for for RCA even if they're on a hold down.
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  It should still be the same. Now I would consult your local
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  union representative on that but I was always told that it was
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  Green Card time for RCA's or three minutes per mile for a
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  regular carrier. Now there's three minutes per
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  mile now we should be too but now it's three I was blown away
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  when that came out weeks back not impressed but just surprised
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  the not even cracked. But if better better than what
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  it was, I wish I would have doubled it.
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  I wish I would have been 4 minutes per mile because back
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  when the two minutes per mile is put in gas was like 60 cents,
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  some 60 cents a gallon, I mean, yeah.
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  You get you get the EMA and all that stuff but you know for me
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  like I'm my route. I have a I have a 28 mile route.
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  So if I go three minutes per mile and I go deliver a package
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  for mine, I'm mostly getting six to eight miles to go deliver it.
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  Is it worth me to do that? Second trip.
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  I'm going to spend it. Spend an hour and a half
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  delivering for you know, three minutes a mile Now worth it act
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  in the long run, but it's worth it for the Post Office.
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  It's not brings us. That brings us to the other
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  point of package delivery as a second trip.
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  If they're scanned after you leave.
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  It's time. It's 8127 time or green card
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  time for RCA's for delivery of perishables that were scanned
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  after you leave. If they were scanned before you
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  leave, you sorted them, they're on.
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  They're ready to go stage, ready to go.
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  It's second trip, but if you have to sort them, put them in
• 25:22
  order to go deliver them because they scan them after you left,
• 25:25
  especially Amazon that comes in late.
• 25:30
  Then you have to do it on 8127 time.
• 25:33
  Get with your local union representative to ensure that
• 25:35
  you do it the right way. Can you think of a question for
• 25:38
  our stead RCA's would have Clyde?
• 25:41
  Yeah, so hmm. And this was more of a I haven't
• 25:45
  seen it. Talked about lately and I don't
• 25:46
  know if there was a change in the last contract regarding the
• 25:50
  50 mile distance rule regarding RCA's being sent to other
• 25:55
  offices in voluntarily. You've I'm sure you.
• 26:00
  At least read some discussion about actual drive distance
• 26:04
  versus 50 mile radius. My understanding was, it's 50
• 26:08
  mile radius. So in my opinion it says radius.
• 26:12
  Which means as the crow flies, right?
• 26:14
  You can drive 65 miles to get to a post office 49 miles away.
• 26:19
  You can see it. Pick your you, you still get
• 26:23
  compensated for all the miles, you actually drive, but you
• 26:26
  should be, you should be compensated from your office.
• 26:30
  To that office e.e. travel a lot of offices.
• 26:34
  Try not to pay that, but you should be compensated on E
• 26:37
  travel on that. I like, I like the benefit, I
• 26:41
  like to benefit my postmaster on that and if I'm closer to the
• 26:46
  post office, then the office is, I'll do it from my house to that
• 26:50
  office. If I know I'm going there in the
• 26:52
  morning, but if it's if it's further from your house then
• 26:56
  from the post office here at unfortunately, But you're going
• 27:00
  to have to do is it's from your base office, but carrier
• 27:04
  discretion, you can always do it straight from your office to
• 27:07
  there, but however, you want to do it.
• 27:09
  Yeah, there's been a lot of intensity on that topic.
• 27:14
  Maybe maybe Rex is over shouted, it the last year, but the
• 27:18
  concept of radius first actual miles and being able to say, no.
• 27:22
  Well, that and if you actually look at all the documentation,
• 27:28
  you won't find the Where it says, 50 miles.
• 27:31
  It says, which I think it's within a right?
• 27:34
  It's not regular to you but something similar.
• 27:37
  Yeah, I've seen it. We think a reasonable within a
• 27:41
  reasonable commute. A reasonable commute is thought
• 27:44
  to be up to 50 miles, which is where that number comes from.
• 27:48
  And that's kind of the Union's definition and what their stance
• 27:51
  was on that one that came out, right?
• 27:53
  And I'm reading the Riddler for well, contract.
• 27:56
  I can't I can tell you that. What was put out at least
• 28:02
  through local meeting, you know, the ARG districts ratification
• 28:08
  meeting. Was the intent was to be for
• 28:14
  that. Yes, it's within a reasonable
• 28:17
  commute. The intent was, for example,
• 28:21
  neighboring offices, local of offices near you and it turned
• 28:25
  into the up to 50 miles which unfortunately in some areas,
• 28:30
  they take advantage of that. For example, with FSF, when they
• 28:34
  first introduced, the FSS years ago, they held they held Any
• 28:40
  office that were affected by it. And all this is within a
• 28:45
  50-mile, radius We're froze for converting RCA's to regular due
• 28:52
  to the possibility of xi's regulars from their routes going
• 28:58
  down so much that they disappear.
• 29:00
  Hmm. I got hit by that because
• 29:04
  Greaves that when they first introduced it to Greensboro
• 29:07
  District, which is the northern part of the state had few
• 29:12
  machines they set up. One street on one route in the
• 29:22
  city of Charlotte fell within that mile circle Froze.
• 29:26
  All of was a two-year phrase coming up on the end of that.
• 29:31
  Two years, they realized they didn't need two machines in
• 29:35
  Greensburg so they were going to disassemble the one machine
• 29:39
  transport it down to Charlotte. I'm reassemble it.
• 29:42
  So they extended that point that two years of one more year so it
• 29:47
  was 3 years. Then once the machine got turned
• 29:50
  on in Charlotte it started a new two-year fries that was five
• 29:56
  years that I was in our city. You know what couldn't even
• 30:00
  convert if I wanted to that's all which is why it took me.
• 30:03
  Nine years to go regular. I got one time in three years,
• 30:07
  I've been sent to another office and it was, it was like I was
• 30:12
  mentioning earlier in my example, it was 49 miles away.
• 30:16
  Radius It took me an hour and a half to get there and an hour
• 30:19
  and a half to get home. And they gave me their, second
• 30:22
  largest route to do. And and I do have to give them
• 30:27
  credit, they cased it all and pulled it down for me.
• 30:31
  I was originally supposed to use my POV when I got there and I
• 30:35
  had a mechanical problem. So while they were getting the
• 30:38
  mail ready, I was at the local Napa discovering that I couldn't
• 30:43
  get fixed as quick. Sweet hope.
• 30:45
  So, I ended up in an LLC V that I've never driven on an actual
• 30:48
  route before. This is actually my first three
• 30:50
  months. It was a, it was a nine and a
• 30:52
  nine point to our route and yeah I was gone from home for 14
• 30:57
  hours that day, I was super pissed but then when my p.m. my
• 31:01
  p.m. had texted me in the afternoon ask me how things were
• 31:04
  going and I told him all about it.
• 31:06
  He was very familiar with that office and he too was pissed
• 31:09
  which was nice, thankfully, and he said that he that he wouldn't
• 31:13
  do that to me again. So and it never has happened.
• 31:17
  Um but yeah I just think yeah the radius things are problem
• 31:21
  doesn't take into account. Well, it's like everything
• 31:23
  around here. People throw a number at
• 31:25
  something and assume that it's a fair application to every
• 31:29
  circumstance. When it clearly is not throw
• 31:33
  this at you. I'll throw this at you.
• 31:35
  There is a post office up in the up' of Michigan that's down in
• 31:40
  that little tip of Michigan there, that actually can reach
• 31:43
  across the lake into Wisconsin and that Post office on the Tipo
• 31:48
  Wisconsin. There is 49 miles away.
• 31:51
  Consider, it's a two-and-a-half-hour drive to get
• 31:53
  there, but it's in another district.
• 31:58
  And I think that's also the other caveat to is, it has to be
• 32:01
  in the same district. Yeah, yeah.
• 32:03
  I don't, I hope that's the caveat, at least.
• 32:05
  Yeah, I hope so, too. I'd be asking for the, I can't
• 32:08
  speak for that because, yes, we are short-handed but, you know,
• 32:15
  as a office is a Was my station and an office as a whole were so
• 32:20
  big. Where I don't want to say
• 32:22
  self-sufficient, but we'd be the one sending people elsewhere.
• 32:25
  You know what I mean? Not the other way around.
• 32:28
  Having a bring people in how many routes in my station or the
• 32:31
  office office about 250. Whoa in verses 23, 20 in
• 32:40
  Wednesday 2018. We were the second largest rural
• 32:43
  office in the country. In nineteen, we were the The
• 32:47
  third largest. I'm not sure where we are now if
• 32:50
  we going back to second or maintain, but I'll have to see
• 32:54
  if I can find that out at our station mention weeks.
• 32:57
  Is that one postmaster for 250? Yes, 250 World routes, probably
• 33:05
  400 City routes in rural routes are in 9 of 15 delivery ins.
• 33:13
  Could you imagine being a postmaster, overseeing 250 Rural
• 33:17
  routes and Rex comes out and you got 250, 250, sweaty, pissed
• 33:22
  off. Carriers, come on Dia, all with
• 33:25
  unique problems on the routes. Well, he is office.
• 33:30
  Is on the second floor plan. He has you guys are exceptions.
• 33:35
  Office has a man, a station manager and Michael super
• 33:40
  supervisors. How many supervisors in my
• 33:42
  station, we have the station manager and Free supervisor to a
• 33:48
  poor baby do any of them know what they're doing?
• 33:50
  At least halfway, one of them knows exactly what he's doing.
• 33:54
  He was a sitting carrier he knows for some crap inside and
• 33:57
  out he can go to any in the one zone, which is the Zone he
• 34:01
  tightens and startup which is not have any career outs.
• 34:04
  He can walk in case you say I start here, he knows for a
• 34:10
  stuff. But at this point because he is
• 34:13
  very Hands-On and noses, Intend you and has done lots of lights
• 34:20
  and just watches the rest of the management team.
• 34:23
  Just either hiding the office or sit on their ass and do nothing.
• 34:26
  He's like, fuck it. I'm done.
• 34:27
  I will come in, you my job. I will go home at this point.
• 34:30
  He is waiting. I think there's like three more
• 34:33
  years till he's old enough to look like an tsp and he's out.
• 34:37
  Good for him. Yeah.
• 34:38
  So he has 20 years military behind him too.
• 34:41
  So it's you already has. He already has one pension
• 34:44
  glutton for punishment. Yeah I know we discussed this
• 34:48
  one before recently their last week of the week before the
• 34:52
  question RCA questions. How do we get paid?
• 34:55
  You either get paid the round evaluation Green Card time or if
• 34:59
  you work 40 hours or more a week on a route, you'll get straight
• 35:05
  time and time and a half for anything over 40.
• 35:07
  If you do 39.99 hours overall, you've worked, you clocked 39.99
• 35:14
  hours. You will earn the Nation for all
• 35:17
  the routes you did. If you work 40 hours, you will
• 35:20
  learn 40 hours. It does not matter.
• 35:23
  Whether you are the fastest carrier in the office of the
• 35:26
  slowest carrier in the office. If you are getting back before
• 35:30
  evaluation time and you hit 40 hours, you get paid 40 hours
• 35:35
  because we got to that is within the first 10 weeks, you get
• 35:39
  paid, which is 5K periods. You will get paid.
• 35:42
  Whichever is greater evaluation or Or hourly.
• 35:48
  So if it's a 42 our route and it took you 45 hours, you'll
• 35:53
  actually get paid, the 45 hours, 45 hours if you are around and
• 36:00
  you get when we work 39, you'll get paid before T2 and if your
• 36:04
  unevaluated route and your you work, well, that route actually
• 36:09
  reading everything. I was asleep.
• 36:16
  Apparel 39 hours. Instead of the 27 it should have
• 36:22
  been you'll get the 39 hours pay.
• 36:25
  Yep. Because your hourly for those
• 36:27
  first ten weeks is greater of those those weeks.
• 36:31
  So even those carriers that work one day a week, you do a 9-hour
• 36:35
  route, need a half, you get the nine hours.
• 36:37
  If you do that, nine our route and 10 hours, you get 10 hours
• 36:41
  right here. Make sure you check your
• 36:42
  paycheck every week and if you need a break down on that ask
• 36:46
  Buddy, ask your Local Union, steward, ask your carrier next
• 36:50
  to you, if they understand how the paycheck breaks down, go to
• 36:53
  your postmaster, ask them how the paycheck breaks down.
• 36:55
  Make sure it's right paychecks. Do have a habit of being messed
• 36:59
  up big time. They could miss in putting a
• 37:03
  route that you did one day they could miss putting in the entire
• 37:06
  week always check your paychecks.
• 37:08
  This reminds me of the only copy of take a picture of your green
• 37:12
  cars. In the 42 40s to show the
• 37:14
  timesheets for the route. This this reminds me of a And
• 37:17
  I've had for two and a half years.
• 37:20
  Green has there, has there ever been a concerted effort by the
• 37:25
  carriers or the union to make our pay stubs?
• 37:30
  Make just a little bit more sense, especially for the
• 37:33
  newcomers. Once you learn how they're put
• 37:35
  together, you can understand them better.
• 37:37
  The hardest part is determining between because you have you
• 37:41
  have to follow federal guidelines when it comes to the
• 37:44
  pay especially your flsa say the pay is broken down into several
• 37:49
  sections. One of them is actual work hours
• 37:52
  which is the time you actually work then then you have your
• 37:56
  route hours what the route actually pays.
• 37:58
  And then if you have EMA that's also broken down on there.
• 38:01
  And if you have holidays or you get a time or doing facilitate
• 38:07
  doing mapping P time for mapping fats, have it on there, the
• 38:11
  separate line item. It's just basically it's a
• 38:14
  complete breakdown of the work that Did that week.
• 38:18
  So why don't they? I mean, think polymers that are
• 38:22
  working multiple routes and, you know, at the end of their week,
• 38:27
  they're dizzy, they're tired. They're dehydrated, they hate
• 38:30
  their kids and they can look at their paycheck.
• 38:33
  They don't know what they did one dated from the other and you
• 38:35
  know, that the USPS has any information, what they did on a
• 38:38
  daily basis, why not at least provide the information on a
• 38:41
  day-by-day and you can do we can show a weekly summary but why is
• 38:45
  there this avoidance of Owing each individual day.
• 38:49
  Well, I would say to answer your question, I personally am not
• 38:54
  aware of where anything is, but I know there are, there is
• 38:59
  poking around somewhere and find it on the internet somewhere.
• 39:05
  They teaching of how to read the face of BOE.
• 39:10
  I've seen that there's a YouTube video.
• 39:12
  Yeah, there's YouTube video out there.
• 39:14
  There's also a break But there is a sheep with a broom, you're
• 39:19
  breaking up. So I said, there's a breakdown
• 39:23
  of what the different codes are and what everything means, you
• 39:27
  know, on a cheap. And it stood, if you worked
• 39:31
  three different routes, it should break down on your pay
• 39:34
  stub, what those three routes were with the what your actual
• 39:39
  hours were for that route. Was it a government vehicle or a
• 39:45
  govt and if so, um a-and what the actual work hours were what
• 39:51
  you actually get paid for that route for that day.
• 39:54
  Evaluation was for that route that day.
• 39:57
  So let's see you work for about 12 months Saturday and Monday
• 40:03
  route to on Wednesday had off Thursday and route for free on
• 40:09
  Friday. It should break down Route One.
• 40:13
  To trip, you know, two trips on Route One, what your total hours
• 40:18
  for those two days you worked what the pay was for those two
• 40:23
  days of beyond the actual worked hours that you're getting paid
• 40:26
  for route to one trip? What your actual hours were
• 40:31
  versus your, paid out your work hours and get paid for and
• 40:34
  Route. 31 trip. What your actual hours were
• 40:38
  versus your paid out. And then was it, POV r.e.m.
• 40:42
  Rob government vehicle. So it should be as RC should be
• 40:47
  breaking that down and then I can't remember what they're
• 40:49
  using for what anymore either 99 or 999 as old jewelry time.
• 40:56
  Which is a green card time. Yeah.
• 40:58
  It's just. My point is that, if they would
• 41:00
  just show all your numbers by day, instead of lumping it all
• 41:06
  into one week. I mean, you know, they don't
• 41:09
  even like on light blue, there's not even a nice vault Correct me
• 41:13
  if I'm wrong. I've never found it a legend
• 41:16
  that helps a person understand their pay stubs example, those
• 41:19
  three different code. Now there anything you would
• 41:22
  have to get a hold of one of those.
• 41:23
  Two sheets are like you said look up that YouTube video that
• 41:26
  someone graciously put you know put up.
• 41:30
  Yeah that's digging on our gear or talk to your local union
• 41:34
  store. Get to know your Local Union
• 41:36
  steward. They're there to help.
• 41:40
  Help you break it down. I know at least in my area
• 41:46
  either at the end of every day or week, or they have a notebook
• 41:55
  and they jot down what they did from what time to what time, you
• 42:00
  know. Yeah.
• 42:01
  So they can go and track it at the end of it.
• 42:03
  So come Friday, when they get their pay stub or Tuesday,
• 42:07
  Wednesday, when they go to Lakewood, what these are peso,
• 42:10
  They can say, alright, this works out, this works out, this
• 42:13
  works out. Wait, this is all and that way
• 42:16
  they can go back and surprised and say, hey this isn't I can't
• 42:21
  find this time here to be able to get it corrected.
• 42:24
  I say yeah that that is your best.
• 42:27
  Bet is to notate won't but somehow whether it's like I said
• 42:32
  taking a picture of your green card and the 40 40, which is the
• 42:36
  timesheet for the route and are having a little Position, you
• 42:40
  know, little spiral book or something and just know Kate.
• 42:44
  I know there's apps also out there that you can enter the
• 42:49
  inner times in and break it down.
• 42:52
  I'm not sure what any of those UPS or because I personally
• 42:55
  didn't use them. But I know there's a few, at
• 42:59
  least a few, the people I've seen on Facebook over the last
• 43:02
  couple of years. As people said, oh, I use this
• 43:04
  track my time. Yeah.
• 43:06
  And you want to keep your own, keep your own paperwork.
• 43:09
  Keep track. Yourself.
• 43:10
  If you need to talk with your local Steward, they could
• 43:14
  probably get you. An internal, see a calendar
• 43:16
  little pocket calendar that you can use to write down your times
• 43:20
  on or buy a pocket. Calendar at a local office
• 43:23
  supply store. Anything you can just do to have
• 43:27
  something to keep track of what you're doing, but what I can
• 43:31
  tell you, the one nice thing about the, the, you know,
• 43:35
  getting a union calendar is, it'll tell you what, the The
• 43:40
  beginning of each pay period, which pay period it is and what
• 43:45
  the paydays are. So you can kind of keep track
• 43:48
  that way but can't can't guarantee or promise that
• 43:54
  they'll be able to get you that. But if you are, you know, you
• 43:58
  have a rep. That's nice enough to give
• 44:02
  everybody. Get you one and can get you one.
• 44:06
  Have you a great resource because you can see when people
• 44:09
  read starting at? Yeah.
• 44:10
  I'm a I'm a big fan of photographing the 4240 or the
• 44:15
  green card. I hear so many stories on
• 44:19
  Facebook groups, about allegedly people's supervisors, or
• 44:23
  postmasters putting in lunch breaks for them, and stuff like
• 44:27
  that. And it's just nice to have a
• 44:28
  record of the original. I meant that you signed off on
• 44:32
  before handing it all over for the through, you know, the end
• 44:35
  of the pay period. Yeah.
• 44:38
  Definitely isn't better late than never.
• 44:41
  I was just going to say, yes, I went out to dinner with
• 44:47
  everybody. So I am here.
• 45:48
  Now, that you're back with us. Where do I begin?
• 45:52
  Well, that's a beginning would be good.
• 45:55
  We'll start with Monday being the holiday.
• 45:59
  I had. Go in and case male, I was the
• 46:02
  only one that showed up. So I had the 3 K3 heavier K
• 46:06
  routes. I got case tonight, was it
• 46:08
  Tuesday and it up being a 13 and a half hour day for me, I had to
• 46:16
  run my primary and my auxiliary on Tuesday.
• 46:20
  And then when I got back, I then had to go take the last 45
• 46:24
  minutes, off of the other sub to get him back.
• 46:27
  And it was about 8:30, when I finally collect out, Out.
• 46:31
  Actually, it was 12 and a half hours for me, because I started
• 46:33
  an hour later than everybody else.
• 46:35
  Yesterday. Really, really, really sucked
• 46:38
  Thursday and Friday were pretty good.
• 46:40
  I just had my Ox route, then at 10:30 Friday night, my regular,
• 46:46
  and my primary route who happens to be a really good friend of
• 46:49
  mine calls me. He was having some pain and
• 46:53
  thought it'd be best to go to the ER, and in couldn't get
• 46:57
  ahold of his son and nobody else really did.
• 47:00
  He came so at 10:30 at night, I was heading out to go.
• 47:03
  Pick him up and the hour drive to the ER luckily.
• 47:07
  It wasn't that major, and it was about 4:30 in the morning.
• 47:11
  When we got home he had a doctor's note to put him off for
• 47:13
  yesterday. Unfortunately, they wouldn't
• 47:16
  give me one. But so after about an hour and a
• 47:19
  half of a nap, if I even slept that much, I then had to go in
• 47:25
  round the 45k and split my primary route with With the two
• 47:30
  other RCA's who have, never carried that route over before.
• 47:35
  So yesterday ended up being about 11 and a half hour a day
• 47:39
  on about an hour of sleep that sums up my week.
• 47:43
  Blast forgot one detail about Monday.
• 47:47
  What was that? Has the post office.
• 48:02
  There's started at 11:00 and because of my house is only
• 48:07
  literally, a block away where my road is to turn down to go home.
• 48:12
  I had to sit at the post office and wait for the parade to
• 48:15
  finish so I could go home. Luckily, it was a short one.
• 48:18
  So 15-20 minutes that was it, we were talking RCA questions and
• 48:24
  figuring out answers for RCA's there.
• 48:27
  Anything you want to add to that.
• 48:28
  Any questions you had? I don't have questions.
• 48:31
  I still am an RCA. Well I meant questions that
• 48:35
  modern RCA's would ask. Well what are we going to pay?
• 48:41
  We've gone over the being sent to other offices.
• 48:45
  We were going to what else would we go over?
• 48:47
  A lot of stuff. Actually, three of you guys, I
• 48:50
  have not been listening obviously because I was like I
• 48:53
  will have to go back. Yeah, that's what I'm reviewing.
• 48:58
  What we what we Discussed so far.
• 49:02
  I've got one, go ahead. Go for it.
• 49:07
  It's kind of a niche takut Niche topic POV.
• 49:11
  I don't know how many of those are still out there.
• 49:13
  I'm one and there's a lot of people actually.
• 49:17
  I'm not going to, I'm not going to reveal my opinion.
• 49:21
  I'm going to ask you guys. What what what what the rules
• 49:26
  are regarding having a backup vehicle?
• 49:30
  You're already required to have your one vehicle for a POV
• 49:33
  route. Of course there's The Perennial
• 49:36
  argument about whether all RCA's are supposed to have a POV and
• 49:41
  seems like the Postal Service hasn't even tried to enforce
• 49:44
  that in recent years. But what happened?
• 49:46
  What do you what you ve thing? Technically the job description
• 49:51
  does stay. That an RCA is supposed to have
• 49:53
  a vehicle available and it's the same as it goes with the regular
• 49:58
  carriers that you You are supposed to have a vehicle
• 50:02
  operational for the route. It does not say that you are
• 50:05
  supposed to have two vehicles. It just says that you are
• 50:08
  supposed to maintain a vehicle to run the route with and then
• 50:14
  what do you tell the mouth breathers that come back and say
• 50:17
  to you. Not the contract says you got to
• 50:20
  have a vehicle in good working order so go rent one from Hertz
• 50:26
  or go Club your grandma over to head and steal her Cadillac.
• 50:30
  I can get a buddy to drive you around.
• 50:34
  Yeah. See, that's that, that that's
• 50:37
  the issue, especially with offices that are only povs.
• 50:41
  I I've had that issue to where I have had povs breakdown and I've
• 50:47
  used a daily driver which was not male friendly interest me.
• 50:52
  I have borrowed a vehicle from a regular to run the route in the
• 50:57
  past. It eventually the post office is
• 51:01
  goal Liz to have a government vehicle and every route.
• 51:04
  But until that actually happens, which I'm never going to hold my
• 51:07
  breath for because it's, yeah. I would be long dead before that
• 51:11
  actually happened. I was what they wanted when they
• 51:13
  started with the Jeeps. Yeah, I've had one.
• 51:16
  I've had a car, and drove me, the rest of the route.
• 51:22
  I'm I had well, and that drive me on the route a couple times
• 51:27
  because the car broke down in the middle of the road.
• 51:31
  Well, he wasn't it. X at the time, he's a next
• 51:33
  single. But I've used my boyfriend's
• 51:36
  full-size Chevy truck to deliver a 93 mile route.
• 51:41
  And I remember correctly. The actual verbiage in regards
• 51:46
  to that is all rule carriers with the exception of regular
• 51:52
  carriers assigned to around with a government vehicle.
• 51:58
  Are required to have. A vehicle for driving.
• 52:02
  And in a cape, I remember correctly and Academy.
• 52:06
  We were told that for to be a good vehicle for delivering, you
• 52:09
  must be able to use your left foot in hand to driving steer
• 52:13
  and be able to extend your right arm out.
• 52:15
  Six inches at least six inches out of the window for a right,
• 52:18
  or a left hand drive vehicle. Obviously sucks for short
• 52:26
  people. Like I said, I'm just saying
• 52:30
  that. What we were told going through
• 52:33
  the academy that was what 16 and a half years ago.
• 52:39
  Like you just said Clyde that. Now, it's a matter of whether or
• 52:43
  not they say, even tell you, you need a vehicle available in,
• 52:47
  like Christy said with these metres fans That they just you
• 52:52
  know they they purchased a couple years ago and they're
• 52:55
  supposed to be a second phase of those coming soon.
• 52:58
  They wanted to they primarily are going to rural routes that
• 53:03
  are povs and some of the city routes that had the old old
• 53:09
  Grand Caravans. They were looking to replace
• 53:13
  with these. Which are very few and far
• 53:17
  between anymore. Yeah.
• 53:18
  So there's no way there are just routes out there that I mean,
• 53:22
  whether it's an electric vehicle with its range limitations or
• 53:26
  whether it's freaking LLB from the 80s, there's there's routes
• 53:31
  out there predominantly gravel. I mean don't neither one will
• 53:34
  work. I mean the electrical and might
• 53:37
  survive after a week but the rattle exact forget it.
• 53:42
  I know. I know my route is going to
• 53:44
  destroy. One of those new electric ones
• 53:46
  for sure within the first week and I have only 50 percent of my
• 53:50
  routes gravel and they sensed it from the 10% electric electric
• 53:58
  ones are going to hit the southern states more than they
• 54:01
  are anything. Northern because you can get,
• 54:03
  you start getting up north and where we get the cold
• 54:06
  temperatures that's going to kill that battery life.
• 54:10
  Those electric ones are going to go to Inner City, Urban route.
• 54:14
  I'm gonna go to sleep. Go to City, carrier is a the
• 54:17
  electric ones are going to go to City carriers because one, first
• 54:21
  of all, we don't have the infrastructure for any electric
• 54:24
  vehicles at the moment. So not only you talking to
• 54:26
  Vehicles. Now you have to purchase all
• 54:28
  these charging stations. It's y'all them to the grid?
• 54:32
  Yep. Yeah, like my office, we can see
• 54:35
  we can set it up in my office. We've got a 12 route office.
• 54:39
  We can actually set it up in our office, but like they were
• 54:43
  saying 2020. Hundred fifty route office.
• 54:46
  There's no way that grid is going to handle charging, 250
• 54:49
  Vehicles, well, and I know there's you, let up amongst a
• 54:54
  bunch of other stations, but still you're looking at.
• 54:58
  I got an office down the road for me.
• 55:00
  That's 70 routes in it. That office going to have 70
• 55:04
  electric vehicles charging. At the same time.
• 55:07
  What's that going to do some power grid to be?
• 55:14
  regardless building, if these are new buildings and he's real
• 55:25
  and you know Postmaster General is having them redone completely
• 55:31
  as part of the rehab, they could put in the charging stations
• 55:36
  through the parking lot for these vehicles but she did Like
• 55:42
  do we all agree that our cities are not required to provide two
• 55:46
  vehicles, or a backup vehicle, correct?
• 55:50
  It's not contractual. It doesn't say, you have to have
• 55:53
  two vehicles. It just says you have to have a
• 55:55
  vehicle, right? The doctor handle to handle the
• 55:59
  daily volume of mail, the daily volume of mail.
• 56:04
  So you could have a little Ford Escort that can handle your four
• 56:09
  trays of deep deep EPs and two trays of flats and it's an
• 56:14
  adequate vehicle. If the necklaces are, the
• 56:17
  problem is that a clear distinction that they stick to
• 56:20
  this day? I think a lot of people find
• 56:23
  that distinction to not be accurate, it will have its in
• 56:27
  the P. 603 that is supposed to handle the average daily volume,
• 56:33
  average, daily volume in, it says of mail.
• 56:37
  I think it does say mail and packages but I will.
• 56:41
  Part three is so I couldn't I couldn't tell you right now and
• 56:46
  take, you know, it and a lot of it is is in my opinion that if
• 56:53
  it's not all going to fit in llv, I shouldn't have to buy the
• 56:57
  largest Ford Transit possible to be able to deliver all the
• 57:01
  packages that are on my route. Well, I can tell you from
• 57:05
  experience. I know I young lady.
• 57:08
  I forget what she was driving. It was an SUV.
• 57:11
  SUV or minivan type thing and because she ended up, couldn't
• 57:19
  fit all the packages in the vehicle.
• 57:22
  Every day they try telling her, she had to get a better a bigger
• 57:24
  vehicle, she grieved it. And as part of her statement for
• 57:29
  in her grievance, she's quite in the cubic feet in the interior
• 57:36
  of the vehicle, which was larger than an LLB, which ended up
• 57:41
  Killing that from management because her vehicle was already
• 57:44
  larger than the government vehicles being used so far.
• 57:48
  Say, you know, she would say, you know, the argument was if
• 57:52
  there was an LLB on this route which is not as large as this
• 57:57
  would you make, would you be, would you be required to change
• 58:00
  the LLB to a different vehicle? So a larger vehicle, okay.
• 58:05
  And the p60 three section 14 equipment and supplies, carry
• 58:09
  responsibilities vehicle. Equipment.
• 58:11
  You are responsible for Furnishing all vehicle
• 58:14
  equipment. Necessary for safe and prompt
• 58:16
  handling a mail. Unless the USPS owned leased
• 58:19
  vehicle is assigned to the route vehicle requirements.
• 58:23
  Your personal vehicle must be large enough to accommodate the
• 58:26
  normal mail volume and constructed to protect the mail
• 58:29
  from loss or damage commercial advertising months.
• 58:32
  Not be displayed on your vehicle by serving the route.
• 58:35
  I like all the were used to the word vehicle is singular at this
• 58:38
  point and not be fools. Each day you serve a route using
• 58:43
  your own vehicle, the USPS pays you the EMA in accordance with
• 58:47
  the applicable schedule. Addition, when X of God, prevent
• 58:51
  you from performing your duties, a postmaster must pay authorized
• 58:55
  administrative leave. You'll receive EMA for each
• 58:57
  service day you report to the post office and are scheduled
• 59:00
  for form. Delivery, exceptions, USPS owned
• 59:05
  or leased vehicle. If you fail to serve any part of
• 59:08
  the route, due to lack of proper endeavor, Operate equipment or
• 59:12
  other failure for which you are responsible.
• 59:14
  To actions are made from your salary.
• 59:16
  Ma for partial failure. Deductions are made at the rate
• 59:20
  of pay per mile for services on routes of 30 miles and lasts for
• 59:25
  failure to perform services on part of the route and excessive
• 59:28
  30 miles deductions are made at the rate of paves for such
• 59:31
  additional mileage. See that is all.
• 59:36
  I am seeing. That is the 603 there's no say
• 59:39
  you have to have a backup vehicle.
• 59:41
  You know, and I agree 100%, you shouldn't have to have a, a
• 59:46
  backup deal vehicle because now you have the expense of if
• 59:50
  there's a payment which let's face it.
• 59:52
  Nowadays, you're not real. Realistically not getting into a
• 59:56
  vehicle without payment and then what about our students?
• 1:00:00
  Yeah and then what I mean Vehicles, right?
• 1:00:08
  Require maintenance. Sure people can do an oil
• 1:00:11
  change, but what if you throw a belt or something?
• 1:00:14
  And then bar, you got a brake line that goes out or, you know,
• 1:00:20
  we go through pads and rotors and calipers, you know, I have
• 1:00:25
  in my experience, I've been at that part store at six am
• 1:00:28
  grabbing calipers rotors and pads.
• 1:00:31
  And I'm out there in the driveway at 6:30 in the morning.
• 1:00:34
  Changing out my Break. So I can be in a work by 7:00
• 1:00:36
  7:30. I've done it.
• 1:00:39
  Unfortunately, I mean, it's unrealistic and especially with
• 1:00:44
  RCA's or even regulars in routes, would know, RCA's our
• 1:00:49
  coverage available. to any type of maintenance done, or if you
• 1:00:55
  have a breakdown and then what What if your suspension goes
• 1:01:01
  out, you're not going to be doing, shocks.
• 1:01:04
  And struts by yourself, you're going to have to go to somebody
• 1:01:07
  who has a spring compressor to be able to fix that.
• 1:01:11
  Are you just drive down the road with it with it bouncing?
• 1:01:14
  Like I do? Oh yeah.
• 1:01:17
  Oh yeah. You look like you got Hydraulics
• 1:01:20
  as you're delivering the mail. Oh yeah.
• 1:01:22
  It's about Oz. Mm.
• 1:01:23
  Hey, that's the only car I have right now to drive.
• 1:01:26
  So Shh bouncing. That was that was going to be
• 1:01:30
  the flip side of my comment. There was there is no
• 1:01:34
  requirement. But if you know you have an
• 1:01:37
  older vehicle that potentially is going to have or not against
• 1:01:42
  Lee will have maintenance issues.
• 1:01:43
  It might not be a bad idea to try and find something as a
• 1:01:48
  back-up plan. Yes.
• 1:01:53
  As I say a back-up plan, especially for RCA's.
• 1:01:57
  I mean, if you're one of those in a somewhat staffed office,
• 1:02:02
  and you're only working, two, three four, maybe 10 days a
• 1:02:07
  month and not going to be able to afford insurance on two
• 1:02:11
  vehicles, depending on, well, I come from Michigan.
• 1:02:15
  We have astronomical insurance rates anyway, so, you know, it's
• 1:02:20
  hard to afford to be able to do that.
• 1:02:22
  You could have something go out. I've had a gas pump, go out on
• 1:02:25
  me, and on the route, You know, stuff like that is going to
• 1:02:31
  happen and it's always good to have at least a back-up plan and
• 1:02:38
  I was raised in my household. Anyways, we always had backup
• 1:02:41
  for the car and back up for the backup.
• 1:02:43
  I've always had access to at least another vehicle that I
• 1:02:47
  could probably somewhat maneuver on a mail routes but, you know,
• 1:02:51
  not everybody has that availability.
• 1:02:54
  So it's just like For example, I just had a monthly and a half
• 1:03:00
  ago, you know? So my sister-in-law's car
• 1:03:03
  because the engine blew one, my wife's car and the timing belt
• 1:03:08
  skipped and blew the engine on first.
• 1:03:11
  So within six months, I had two vehicles, dial me or I have or
• 1:03:17
  I, you know, I kept my POV, I was thinking about getting rid
• 1:03:21
  of it because I've been running all alvear outs forever.
• 1:03:24
  And even when I do do my primary Reroute, I usually do it in
• 1:03:27
  coordinates with my Ox route. So I get to use my Ox truck
• 1:03:30
  instead of using my POV, and I actually thought about getting
• 1:03:34
  rid of it. But I'm like, no, I'm not going
• 1:03:35
  to wait, I'm going to wait until I go full time and I know I'll
• 1:03:38
  be on the llv route than I don't have to worry about it.
• 1:03:41
  Which I was actually really glad I did.
• 1:03:42
  Because, you know, when you have irresponsible teenagers who just
• 1:03:45
  take other people's cars and total them out, anything can
• 1:03:49
  happen, how us how you really feel And before I got my before
• 1:03:58
  I got a new vehicle, I was lucky enough that my buddy who lives
• 1:04:03
  by himself was kind enough to lend me his right hand side
• 1:04:08
  sleep so I could get to and from work.
• 1:04:11
  Well, I'm on an LLP route. So I didn't need it for work,
• 1:04:14
  but I needed to be able to get, you know, something reliable to
• 1:04:17
  get to. And from, you know, it's funny
• 1:04:19
  because I love talking to him and he's like, God, you know,
• 1:04:22
  when I asked him after, you know, he took a day to just
• 1:04:25
  think about it. It and he said, oh, you know,
• 1:04:27
  call me back the next morning, so let me know.
• 1:04:30
  Yes, he would let me and he starts humming.
• 1:04:33
  Oh, don't worry, you know, when you first turned on this like
• 1:04:36
  this, like this, like this like going to come on, you know, the
• 1:04:39
  airbag light because it's a factory conversion.
• 1:04:43
  Hmm, so they took the test and the left hand side.
• 1:04:47
  Seat out to put the mail. Try in, which means they had to
• 1:04:50
  disconnect the left hand side. Airbag was Connects the whole
• 1:04:56
  airbag systems that lights on. Then he has like two or three
• 1:05:02
  other White's on the Davenport I have.
• 1:05:04
  I don't even know. Who knows what that would be.
• 1:05:07
  Like proper the proper Jeep, Christmas tree?
• 1:05:10
  Yes. Yes.
• 1:05:12
  That's what he says. He's like, you like the
• 1:05:14
  Christmas tree. Then he saying, so when you get
• 1:05:17
  down, you know, when you feel he's like use the trip whenever,
• 1:05:21
  you know, when you fill it up with gas because when it gets
• 1:05:24
  down to under three quarters on between a half and three
• 1:05:28
  quarters, the fuel light are the check engine light comes on.
• 1:05:37
  Well, so I'm like, it gets down to the 3/4.
• 1:05:41
  I'm like, and then it goes down, you know, gets almost almost to
• 1:05:45
  the halfway point that came on. I'm like, okay.
• 1:05:48
  And I have the kid in the car, with me in the backseat because
• 1:05:52
  I figured out how to move the carpets and whatever and put
• 1:05:55
  back seat up. So because he keeps the seats
• 1:05:58
  down because he uses that He takes it on the route, use for
• 1:06:01
  the packages. So we, so the kids somewhere to
• 1:06:05
  sick with a seatbelt, we stop on the way home at McDonald's for
• 1:06:09
  once. Well, you said it was a sitting
• 1:06:13
  at just over a half tank Benito, just go sit down to eat in the
• 1:06:19
  world fluid, you know, the I'm thirsty.
• 1:06:23
  Bitch. Light came on.
• 1:06:24
  I'm like, now, I know he's talking about when I talk to him
• 1:06:28
  the next day and told. Him about it, which it was or
• 1:06:31
  I'm sorry we do that afternoon when I crank it back up, it was
• 1:06:34
  fine again. He says, yeah.
• 1:06:35
  That's knew. I'd never seen that one before.
• 1:06:37
  My great don't tell me this thing's gonna die, too.
• 1:06:42
  So yeah. So according to the pixel P,
• 1:06:44
  603, you're just supposed to have a vehicle, doesn't say
• 1:06:47
  You're supposed to have a vehicle and a backup vehicle
• 1:06:50
  doesn't think Vehicles know but is not plural, it just route,
• 1:06:55
  ready, vehicle that can handle the date.
• 1:06:59
  Mail volume yes. Have you guys seen this problem
• 1:07:02
  show up in Grievances and your time?
• 1:07:05
  I mean have you seen this thing? You know, because I read tons of
• 1:07:11
  stories where post managers or supervisors are basically
• 1:07:14
  bullying people into going out and steal another car.
• 1:07:17
  I've seen it over and Bill's area.
• 1:07:19
  I don't think we've been around long enough for that and I have.
• 1:07:22
  All right, I personally have not experienced any one, having a
• 1:07:29
  Issue with that. But I know I know people who
• 1:07:32
  have had their POV, they were out, you know, they ended up
• 1:07:35
  having to go out for a cup of day or two where we can
• 1:07:40
  depending on what was wrong, because they couldn't get the
• 1:07:44
  time to do maintenance, and it was either they called out for
• 1:07:48
  the bay. So they could do whatever
• 1:07:50
  maintenance we needed to do, change the oil brake pads, you
• 1:07:55
  know, just routine maintenance that you have to do every so
• 1:07:58
  often or it. Got to the point where it was
• 1:08:00
  not running and they had read the day or two or weak, and
• 1:08:04
  couldn't get another vehicle. But then again, that week, they
• 1:08:08
  were burning sick sick. Well, annual time after putting
• 1:08:11
  his transportation is the reason and not getting the EMA that
• 1:08:16
  week looking up some other stuff.
• 1:08:18
  See if we got any automatic transmission, is not required
• 1:08:21
  according to a step 4 in 1985. I would say I can tell you when
• 1:08:28
  I went through the academy, the instructors that I had would not
• 1:08:35
  approve a stick if you are straddling.
• 1:08:38
  Now, the reason that it would be it would be in the way and you
• 1:08:43
  could not get out of here. But how do you operate the
• 1:08:45
  clutch from the right side of the car carefully.
• 1:08:50
  Gotta help. Delivered out of a Ford Escort,
• 1:08:58
  at one time. Stick shift.
• 1:08:59
  I said, how do you do that? It goes.
• 1:09:01
  You keep it in second gear and just keep going.
• 1:09:04
  Yeah, you're not going faster than that.
• 1:09:10
  And if you have that much deadhead time, you're supposed
• 1:09:13
  to be behind the wheel. Anyway, your sisters when there
• 1:09:15
  was a lot less packages to right.
• 1:09:17
  Well, I something from technically, in a POV when you
• 1:09:20
  get, when from the post office, to your first box, you're
• 1:09:24
  supposed to be behind the wheel. and then if you have get a time
• 1:09:28
  from one neighborhood to another, You're supposed to get
• 1:09:33
  back behind the wheel and then switch over.
• 1:09:35
  When you get to the first box in the next neighborhood.
• 1:09:37
  I knew someone that the way her, she had the actual pedal for the
• 1:09:42
  emergency brake. She we got she had a cane that
• 1:09:45
  she would use a push to push down because she had the
• 1:09:48
  conversion kit with the pulley, with the belt from the old wheel
• 1:09:53
  with the pedals. So to hit her emergency brake,
• 1:09:55
  she would had a cane and you just just she just said in
• 1:09:59
  there, you know, off the side and she read it.
• 1:10:01
  And then when She got in and got it cranked up and everything she
• 1:10:05
  used. Came to push it down to release
• 1:10:07
  it. Another question that we keep
• 1:10:09
  popping up and seeing in places is what happens with an act of
• 1:10:14
  God. What happens, how do we get paid
• 1:10:16
  for stuff like that? You know, we're in tornado
• 1:10:19
  season. We've had post offices, get hit
• 1:10:22
  with tornadoes. We also have post offices that
• 1:10:25
  have been sunken blizzard and major.
• 1:10:28
  Snowstorms somebody want to go ahead and answer that one.
• 1:10:32
  Well, if the ministry of leave, it can mostly RCA's are.
• 1:10:41
  They were scheduled to. We Are Legion work.
• 1:10:44
  If it's a caller, if they're calling you off due to an act of
• 1:10:48
  God. If you were scheduled that day,
• 1:10:50
  it could be. I would have to double check.
• 1:10:53
  So don't quote me, it could be a stir, it like force, a few
• 1:10:59
  service, an ox row, or you're a designated 74.
• 1:11:02
  Or your schedule, the regulars on a Caribbean cruise and you
• 1:11:07
  get stuck during blizzards season, you know, if you're on
• 1:11:10
  the schedule, it was should fall under the administrative leave
• 1:11:13
  as well. If you're able to make it into
• 1:11:17
  the office. And there's mail to case but
• 1:11:22
  they're not going to send you out.
• 1:11:25
  Then you would still get paid the evaluation of the row.
• 1:11:29
  Yeah, an RCA should get a minimum of two hours.
• 1:11:32
  They were scheduled. I yeah, I can't speak from
• 1:11:36
  experience, but I would say it would more than likely you would
• 1:11:41
  more than likely have to go. I remember reading process for
• 1:11:45
  that, but again, I don't know. I never had the, you know, what
• 1:11:50
  I said, and they 16 and a half years I've been with the post
• 1:11:54
  office they've called off Livery two times and they were more
• 1:11:57
  recently than in more recent years than in, you know, in the
• 1:12:02
  past. So yeah, unfortunately, when
• 1:12:04
  they called off in my office, I was already a regular and so I
• 1:12:07
  got my evaluated pay. So what?
• 1:12:09
  All right. It doesn't.
• 1:12:11
  It does not define a friend through 8 does not.
• 1:12:14
  All right. It doesn't the school.
• 1:12:16
  Yes, thank you. It does not distinguish what
• 1:12:18
  between a regular or an RCA. It just says X of God, when X of
• 1:12:24
  God prevent. Employee an employee, from
• 1:12:28
  performing the employees Duty. The employer May authorize
• 1:12:33
  administrative leave EMA will be paid for each service day.
• 1:12:38
  A rural carrier reports to the post office and is scheduled to
• 1:12:42
  perform delivery if the carrier fails to serve all, or any
• 1:12:46
  portion of the route due to lack of proper Endeavor or any
• 1:12:50
  failure, which the carrier is responsible appropriate
• 1:12:53
  deductions from salary. EMA will be made will be based
• 1:12:57
  on Miles omitted. So, it just says, employee talk
• 1:13:02
  with your local union, representative for guidance.
• 1:13:06
  Yes, exactly. Yes, I do for entertainment
• 1:13:09
  purposes only, I would not, you know, I can't, I've never seen
• 1:13:17
  or one way or another with that. But I don't, if they Authorize
• 1:13:26
  the administrative leave. I don't think I necessarily.
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  We're going to include the RCA's that may that they will most
• 1:13:32
  likely have to work with their local union representative,
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  right? So here's another good one that
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  comes in Subs. Doing multiple routes including
• 1:13:41
  running packages for City carriers.
• 1:13:43
  Basically parcel assistance you fill out a green card just for
• 1:13:46
  your time or she write down the road.
• 1:13:47
  She was just with this is going to do management is going to
• 1:13:52
  that's their own thing whether they want to separate green card
• 1:13:54
  for each route. Or I know in my office on one
• 1:13:57
  green card, but I have to separate each route by the
• 1:14:00
  little sections, start, and end time.
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  But yeah, you would go with the each of the individual route.
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  That would be up to Management's discussion on whether they
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  wanted. All our one green card or suffer
• 1:14:11
  green card for every rep. You.
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  Okay? I've always been taught used one
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  green card and say you fill it up front and back and then you
• 1:14:20
  switch regardless of wrap my route or but like we said each
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  Yelp is going to be done differently.
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  I would just break parcel, run started at nine am finished at 2
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  p.m. and how many miles are office.
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  Prefers it to be each day at your clock in clock out.
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  And if you have a lunch break in there, you put that in the other
• 1:14:45
  two slots in each section for the green card and then you
• 1:14:49
  write down what you did in the notes.
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  Mine would prefer. That each section are at least
• 1:14:55
  Note side your time in and time out for each route that you
• 1:14:58
  assisted. Yeah, even even when I go in and
• 1:15:01
  case routes on a holiday, a wanted me to divide it that my
• 1:15:06
  time up by, which routes I did that way, they could charge the
• 1:15:10
  financial charge till that route, right?
• 1:15:12
  Just putting it in as a as 99999 1998 or whatever.
• 1:15:17
  The hell they want to do today is and this applies to arcs to
• 1:15:21
  Mark, the do parcel assistance during mail delivery week.
• 1:15:25
  It applies to them, two arcs are for our, for parcel delivery.
• 1:15:29
  They're not for mail delivery. If an arch being used for mail
• 1:15:32
  delivery, they should be where the exception, the exception of
• 1:15:38
  Saturday's, if they've gone through the RCA Academy Academy,
• 1:15:43
  yep. Now, anybody started to talk
• 1:15:45
  about training newbies, but we can say that for a totally
• 1:15:48
  different episode. Well, we got into the I was late
• 1:15:54
  jumping into Conversation beginning due to being on the
• 1:15:58
  phone with my father and brother, who were assisting me
• 1:16:00
  in answering the questions for the facilitator application,
• 1:16:04
  that I need to fill out a paper. This evening, I just try and
• 1:16:08
  write my injury so I can apply for the Royal Academy because
• 1:16:12
  her Academy and orientation facilitators that what you're
• 1:16:16
  doing, okay, that's what I'm hoping to do.
• 1:16:20
  I actually have a supervisor that will sign off on a
• 1:16:25
  reference Camry. So she hasn't been here long
• 1:16:28
  enough to get to know me. Another question we have is can
• 1:16:32
  RCA's do anything with the Union?
• 1:16:35
  Yes, RCA's can do. Absolutely.
• 1:16:38
  Absolutely. I am prime example of that.
• 1:16:42
  As an RCA. I am an o.j.
• 1:16:45
  I I am a mapping facilitator. I have been a county unit
• 1:16:50
  Treasurer currently a county unit eyes.
• 1:16:55
  President, I know of RCA's. I have been area stewards, and
• 1:17:00
  adrs. I have ran for national office
• 1:17:04
  as an RCA, you can be a delegate to your State Convention to
• 1:17:09
  National Convention. You can go to all your local
• 1:17:14
  meetings, all your state boosters and you're still
• 1:17:17
  protected under that. Nifty little article in the
• 1:17:19
  contract. I blew believe it's number 24.
• 1:17:23
  Yeah, there's an RCA. Yes, you can be.
• 1:17:25
  Extremely active is as much as you want.
• 1:17:27
  In fact, I am off this tomorrow and Tuesday.
• 1:17:32
  I'm actually broadcast. I am actually recording tonight
• 1:17:35
  from hotel. Is my state board.
• 1:17:38
  Meetings are open to membership to observe and I observing my
• 1:17:42
  state board meeting the next two days.
• 1:17:45
  Give them hell. I am observing.
• 1:17:47
  I can't I'm not participating. I am there observing.
• 1:17:51
  Fuck. You can always do a point of
• 1:17:53
  order. You can ask Under point of order
• 1:17:57
  that is it is possible or they can if they're looking for input
• 1:18:00
  on sums, you know, they will ask us for input.
• 1:18:03
  So yes, it is very possible to be extremely active in the Union
• 1:18:09
  in our can also be involved in the Union as well.
• 1:18:12
  You can go to County meeting, you can go to state meetings,
• 1:18:15
  become a delegate as well. You also can have a voice in
• 1:18:18
  this whole thing. There's no designation between
• 1:18:21
  an arc and RCA or rural carrier in the world.
• 1:18:25
  Girl Union. All right.
• 1:18:26
  Here's another. Yes.
• 1:18:27
  What a quick follow-up, Kristin. Do you get any grief or at least
• 1:18:32
  a written initially? I don't know how long you've had
• 1:18:35
  your current postmaster, but do you get any pushback for for I
• 1:18:40
  did at first, when I came into this office because I started
• 1:18:44
  another office, it was actually my regular that trained me and
• 1:18:48
  my first office actually, I'm rooming with her, it State
• 1:18:51
  Convention, this year. She actually is the one that It
• 1:18:55
  was her husband that took me to my first local meeting because
• 1:18:58
  her husband was a carrier at the time to is the one that
• 1:19:01
  nominated me to be Treasurer at the time and got it.
• 1:19:03
  Held it for four years, she's the one that dragged me off
• 1:19:06
  because that was back in the good old days.
• 1:19:09
  When there was a full complement of stubs in an office.
• 1:19:13
  And she actually do, you know, took me to my first conventions.
• 1:19:18
  She worked for me to go to my first booster.
• 1:19:20
  I went with another carrier, you know.
• 1:19:24
  Oh, I I was so used to having that relationship and being able
• 1:19:28
  to do that stuff in that office being involved when I came into
• 1:19:33
  the office that I'm in. Now, a word not used to anybody
• 1:19:38
  being active at all in that office.
• 1:19:40
  In fact, I remember my first postmaster in this office, I was
• 1:19:46
  on my way and I had my approved leave slip because you have to,
• 1:19:49
  to go to your annual enhancement training that you're required to
• 1:19:53
  do. I was actually getting onto the
• 1:19:55
  Whales already up an hour away from home and she calls me
• 1:19:58
  telling me it will I need you to come in and Route Runner out
• 1:20:01
  five. I said that's impossible today.
• 1:20:04
  I said I am on my way to my training than I am man.
• 1:20:08
  Dated a go-to so you're telling me you're not coming in.
• 1:20:11
  No I haven't approved slip for that.
• 1:20:13
  I am not coming and well I'm going to write that down.
• 1:20:16
  All right ahead. I mean I got there and I let the
• 1:20:19
  Dr. Know we just kind of laughed it off but yeah, I did have
• 1:20:23
  quite a bit of pushback at First, as an RCA.
• 1:20:26
  Because in the past, the RCs that were, there were always
• 1:20:30
  told that was before RCA's earned, leave to that.
• 1:20:34
  You're an RCA. You're not allowed to request
• 1:20:37
  any time off for anything. You can't have a life.
• 1:20:40
  I mean, that was the big push in the office at the time.
• 1:20:43
  And then when I came in, I had already been doing Union work
• 1:20:47
  for three and a half years and now all of a sudden I'm in.
• 1:20:51
  And I'm taking I'm putting request in for conventions and
• 1:20:54
  everything I was bringing Going up that article quite a bit and
• 1:20:57
  it's got to the point now that as long as you know I put it in,
• 1:21:01
  they don't even hesitate anymore.
• 1:21:03
  They just give it to me off. Yeah, I did have a lot of
• 1:21:05
  pushback at first you don't push bag even if you're a regular
• 1:21:08
  carrier to yep. Oh, why?
• 1:21:11
  Whenever I submit my I leave request for Union stuff.
• 1:21:15
  I always attach a copy of article 24 of which I have
• 1:21:20
  multiple copies somewhere and it's just going to be worse
• 1:21:23
  until they figure out a way to get us at least 90% staff.
• 1:21:27
  It's going to be a problem until we get paid back up.
• 1:21:30
  What kind of it's going to be a problem until management learns
• 1:21:34
  to treat RCA's like human beings?
• 1:21:36
  Yep. Yeah.
• 1:21:37
  Hey, hey. And treatment are the two
• 1:21:38
  biggest things, you know, it definitely is.
• 1:21:42
  I mean, I I've worked for absolutely wonderful management.
• 1:21:45
  I have worked for not-so-great management right now.
• 1:21:47
  I'm kind of in between but it's hearing the horror stories come
• 1:21:52
  out of other offices. RCA's number one, the times that
• 1:21:55
  we are in now with RCA's and people just wanting to work in
• 1:21:59
  general and not just work doing hard work, this is not.
• 1:22:02
  We don't just drive around the truck stops and mail all day.
• 1:22:05
  That's the easy part of the job. It's, you know, this could be a
• 1:22:08
  big mental challenge to and a lot of people don't get that.
• 1:22:11
  It can be a physical challenge which Some may have an issue
• 1:22:14
  with its, you know, this job isn't for everybody, but to find
• 1:22:18
  an art, you know, to find people nowadays that especially with
• 1:22:22
  went on a few years ago and people get an all comfortable
• 1:22:25
  with working at home or a living off the government or not
• 1:22:29
  working at all. And then why you to come in and
• 1:22:32
  then going to push comes to shove, and okay, I actually have
• 1:22:35
  to work, but then when you have management that treats them less
• 1:22:39
  than human and Belize. Exactly.
• 1:22:42
  And there's a Absolutely no positive reinforcement in some
• 1:22:46
  of these offices and they run you ragged and they just it gets
• 1:22:50
  to a point one you know somebody you can only take so much
• 1:22:53
  anybody can only take so much. So unless you have somebody
• 1:22:58
  that's looking out for you to stand up for you or stand up for
• 1:23:00
  yourself, I mean, the easy job is just to leave when you hear
• 1:23:03
  the horror stories and people are seeing the horror stories,
• 1:23:05
  people are hearing the horror stories, people are seeing the
• 1:23:07
  news reports. You're getting this, you know,
• 1:23:10
  people talk to carriers, you know, less and less people are.
• 1:23:13
  Don't want to come to this job. I remember when this job was
• 1:23:16
  extremely coveted job. You know, there was weightless
• 1:23:19
  to get into the post office RCA's.
• 1:23:22
  Waited 20 years to go full-time. Yeah, they'll do some still.
• 1:23:27
  Yeah, depending on the area around you still do.
• 1:23:29
  I mean, I very Gotti and a half years under my belt and some
• 1:23:32
  that wasn't you know like wow, that was less than me, you know,
• 1:23:36
  it's nobody wants to stay with a job that long, especially one
• 1:23:40
  that's feast, or famine new are either working.
• 1:23:43
  During one day a week or you're working seven days a week and
• 1:23:45
  you don't know it. Varies from week to week, you're
• 1:23:47
  wanting one route a day or you're running around a half or
• 1:23:50
  two routes a day. It's one of those unpredictable
• 1:23:52
  jobs and I totally get that. But when you add the fact on of
• 1:23:56
  incompetent management and management that don't know how
• 1:23:59
  to treat people with respect and want to be a little and berate
• 1:24:04
  and stomp on you, you don't want to work for them and it's and
• 1:24:08
  I'm and I don't want to say this in a bad way.
• 1:24:12
  There are a Of regular carriers out there that treats, the subs
• 1:24:18
  assigned to their route, like their their personal employee
• 1:24:22
  and they think they can just scare you or or they just are
• 1:24:27
  there completely wrapped up in their own agenda and they don't
• 1:24:31
  think about that person. That's something on their route,
• 1:24:33
  they don't communicate with them.
• 1:24:35
  I mean, that's, I mean, that's the hardest thing is like, when
• 1:24:39
  I first started, I had a regular who communicated everything we
• 1:24:43
  had Add a notebook. So we left notes for each other
• 1:24:46
  and anything important anything like that and so we were always
• 1:24:50
  in the know. Are she called me or I call her
• 1:24:53
  you know and then you work and then you work on routes where
• 1:24:56
  the regular leaves? There's no communication
• 1:24:59
  whatsoever and it's like, all right here that says you get the
• 1:25:02
  carrier that says I was treated this way.
• 1:25:04
  So I'm going to treat you that way.
• 1:25:05
  Exactly. And to me, that's not right.
• 1:25:08
  I mean, I've already talked to one of our the sub that's on the
• 1:25:11
  route that I'm taking, but I will pay Eventually be taking
• 1:25:14
  over here in a few months and you know, he's like, wow, he's
• 1:25:17
  like I really, you know, he doesn't mind the work, he really
• 1:25:20
  doesn't, he likes the job. But he's like where you know, I
• 1:25:23
  want to be able to seize, you know, go to some of my kids, you
• 1:25:26
  know, soccer and baseball games and see my son grow up, and I
• 1:25:31
  can feel that and relate to that because I started this job as a
• 1:25:35
  single parent. You know, my kids were all three
• 1:25:37
  of my kids were in school or just starting school.
• 1:25:41
  When I started this job you know, my son's Roan and on his
• 1:25:44
  own. Now, my daughter is going to be
• 1:25:45
  a senior next year, if she passes summer school and my
• 1:25:47
  other ones just going into middle school and I missed its
• 1:25:51
  hon with them growing up because of this job.
• 1:25:54
  But at the same time, you know, I get that.
• 1:25:57
  But I like I told him I said to him I said, you know, I'm going
• 1:26:01
  to be the low man on the totem pole.
• 1:26:03
  I don't expect to get Saturday's off because I'm going to be the
• 1:26:07
  lone man of the totem pole. So, happy where I said, but if
• 1:26:09
  there's a time or if there's a day that you need off, because
• 1:26:13
  You want to go to your son's game where you got this going
• 1:26:15
  on. I said, just let me know ahead
• 1:26:17
  of time I said I don't have a problem with that, you know, you
• 1:26:20
  got to, you got to communicate, you know, in Subs RCA's.
• 1:26:24
  Need to communicate with the regulars.
• 1:26:26
  To I've seen a lot of RCA's that want to come in and they're just
• 1:26:30
  going to come into my job, go home and they do absolutely
• 1:26:32
  nothing. They don't help keep up with
• 1:26:34
  like with hole cards and pars labels.
• 1:26:36
  Even if a regular says, you know, I have one regular my
• 1:26:39
  office as if you get one she's off.
• 1:26:41
  She said put my Powers labels on here.
• 1:26:43
  Don't put them on the cards because I need to physically.
• 1:26:45
  See them myself in order for it. I said, yeah, that's no problem.
• 1:26:48
  But you know what? When I get those Parcels, I'm
• 1:26:50
  still looking at them so I know. Hey, am I forwarding somebody's
• 1:26:54
  mail today? You know, I know her system on
• 1:26:55
  hold. So I go ahead and I put her
• 1:26:57
  holds up the normal way and I pull him, you know, before I
• 1:27:01
  leave if she's coming back the next day I usually try and pull
• 1:27:03
  those returning holes for it's like and it's like I said in the
• 1:27:07
  past before as an RCA and it doesn't matter what route you're
• 1:27:10
  walking in to take ownership of that route.
• 1:27:14
  And try to leave. Even if it's just a sticky note
• 1:27:16
  or a blank piece of paper with some notes of like hey I noticed
• 1:27:20
  this or there's a new box up now at this address or something you
• 1:27:25
  know communication I think is number one, especially between
• 1:27:28
  the assignment RCA and the regular on that route there has
• 1:27:31
  to be some sort of positive communication even if it's just
• 1:27:37
  about what's going on on that route.
• 1:27:39
  Yeah. That's some marking cases and
• 1:27:41
  creating cheat sheets. You know how?
• 1:27:43
  Up them where if, when it's at all possible, man.
• 1:27:46
  I'm still helping the other two. I still have the one that's kind
• 1:27:49
  of struggling with a few addresses on the case.
• 1:27:52
  And you know, every day he I mean, even yesterday I had a
• 1:27:55
  case up, the 45k that I was running, I had a case up, my 40K
• 1:28:00
  that I was splitting and I had a case up, my Ox route and get
• 1:28:04
  that ready to go for the regular carrier that took it for me.
• 1:28:06
  Thankfully. And then I had to take my
• 1:28:09
  primary route and I had to split that up.
• 1:28:11
  I didn't mark any packages for my half.
• 1:28:13
  Because, well, I don't have to knowing that I had somebody
• 1:28:16
  brand-new that had never ran, that router doesn't even know
• 1:28:19
  that area at all, because they're new to our area, in
• 1:28:21
  general. I had to go through with the
• 1:28:23
  parcel markers and write the address is on there and put
• 1:28:26
  everything in order and I pulled it all down.
• 1:28:28
  Then I had to go back to the 45k and Mark those packages and pull
• 1:28:33
  that down and load it up, I still took that time while he
• 1:28:36
  was trying to get out on his 41k route.
• 1:28:39
  And he's like, I can't find these addresses on the case and
• 1:28:42
  it's those oddball. Oh ones where you have one box
• 1:28:44
  here, turn around one back. And so you know, I still took
• 1:28:48
  that time to stop and say, okay it's like I'm having a hard time
• 1:28:52
  finding these and he'd show me the address and of course, you
• 1:28:54
  know, I hadn't slept in over 24 hours at this point.
• 1:28:58
  So the numbers aren't clicking with me but I look at the name
• 1:29:00
  I'm like oh so and so I said yep, upper right hand corner,
• 1:29:04
  third row and I was pointed out to him rather than just doing it
• 1:29:07
  for him. That way he can get that visual
• 1:29:11
  you know, be that mentor. That RCA even if you are, if you
• 1:29:15
  are an RCA, you've been around for a while, you know the routes
• 1:29:19
  now, you can still take that time to help those newer
• 1:29:23
  struggling RCA's. There has to be some sort of
• 1:29:27
  camaraderie within the office in order to make it work into it,
• 1:29:33
  for it to be positive. And then that's also regular
• 1:29:35
  carriers to take care of the RCA's because the RCA's are
• 1:29:39
  going to get crapped on a lot. And it's our job to help lift
• 1:29:43
  them up. I'm up, it's our job to help
• 1:29:44
  them with the job. It's our job to teach them the
• 1:29:46
  right way to do things our job to help.
• 1:29:49
  Make sure that Management's treating them by the contract.
• 1:29:53
  We have to look out for each other whether we're an RCA and
• 1:29:56
  Arc a PDF or a regular carrier. We have to look out for each
• 1:30:01
  other, take care of each other because we're all we got we are
• 1:30:05
  our Union every one of us do spaying and then dues-paying, we
• 1:30:09
  have to take care of each other. We do.
• 1:30:11
  And I think taking care of our Is is number one at this point,
• 1:30:15
  especially as a regular. And if you want some time off,
• 1:30:19
  you need to take care of that RCA as an RCA who only gets time
• 1:30:25
  off for Union functions and very rarely anything personal please
• 1:30:30
  take care of that RCA because I am really glad I already had
• 1:30:35
  this time pre-approved because I needed to get away.
• 1:30:41
  Well, we all need to get away from This job every once in a
• 1:30:44
  while, but I'm here, but I'm here for Union stuff.
• 1:30:47
  So, it's, you know, how you're technically still working?
• 1:30:50
  Just well, yeah, not at the off. Exactly.
• 1:30:54
  I'm actually away from the office more this week than I'm
• 1:30:56
  actually there. I work Saturday and we'll wave
• 1:30:59
  Monday Tuesday, I'll be there, Wednesday, I'm away.
• 1:31:01
  Thursday, for my annual training and I am back on Friday.
• 1:31:07
  And then the end of the month, you have their day, in the end
• 1:31:10
  of the month, the other State Convention, And I'm all for the
• 1:31:14
  whole week. Two months later.
• 1:31:16
  You have the National Convention?
• 1:31:17
  Yep. But I do have personal weekend
• 1:31:19
  off in July so I will be far away and actually I will not be
• 1:31:24
  on that Sunday because I'll slip knot will be performing.
• 1:31:27
  I'm not going to be here according to the concert.
• 1:31:30
  So three day weekend honestly, I don't know how many RCA's we
• 1:31:34
  lost dude. Who wrecks releasing those
• 1:31:38
  numbers? No, even though routes a Decay
• 1:31:42
  from case, two h's. Has H routes are still entitled
• 1:31:45
  to a leave replacement for. Yes.
• 1:31:50
  And doesn't need as well. Yeah, she is holding down.
• 1:31:54
  Are allowed to have really scarier.
• 1:31:57
  Yes. And an ox route can have a
• 1:31:58
  relief carrier? Yes, every row is entitled to a
• 1:32:02
  relief carrier. Yeah, I would say speaking of
• 1:32:04
  such things or see a holding down around is entitled to a
• 1:32:08
  relief J, but not necessarily the same relief.
• 1:32:11
  They posted. With the regular correct.
• 1:32:15
  Usually I do believe. I think I have seen it at one
• 1:32:18
  time. It says on the lightest day of
• 1:32:20
  the week but that doesn't necessarily always happen.
• 1:32:23
  Well it's and I've heard actually at Management's
• 1:32:28
  discussion on giving that bleep back to the auction yet.
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  Everything's you may work through some stages from our
• 1:32:34
  help, you're going pushing email or higher.
• 1:32:38
  Most of the time they're probably going to be the oh
• 1:32:40
  really, if you can request that you get Agent a really good this
• 1:32:44
  week but no guarantee your promises with that especially
• 1:32:47
  depending on Staffing as well. Yes, so I have a question for
• 1:32:51
  you guys. So if you have an RCA that's
• 1:32:54
  borrowed from another office, obviously was not trained
• 1:32:59
  properly in that office when it comes to Basics like olds and
• 1:33:04
  forwards like they thought pars labels were holds and that
• 1:33:08
  forwards would you how would you handle that?
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  Because Not technically an employee of your office.
• 1:33:17
  Hi. If you stick some?
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  Yeah, I would. Just if, if they question you
• 1:33:23
  on, hey, what do I do with this? You helped him out.
• 1:33:26
  Let him know. I hate mine.
• 1:33:30
  How many different my office is a different Beast than anywhere
• 1:33:35
  in the world? Yes.
• 1:33:37
  I've seen where they've called back an RCA from another station
• 1:33:42
  for an eye. II in my station, with my
• 1:33:46
  management team, do something make a doll.
• 1:33:48
  The one day they're brought into my my station.
• 1:33:51
  So if that's the case, then you would represent them because the
• 1:33:55
  potential disciplines coming from your pelvis?
• 1:33:58
  Well I can do that for sure that something that, you know, I
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  would definitely find out from your representatives on how that
• 1:34:07
  should be handled but, you know, and I agree on that one, you
• 1:34:13
  know. No suggestion is obviously take
• 1:34:14
  him under your wing and teach him to.
• 1:34:16
  I mean, which I tend to do that to a point.
• 1:34:20
  I may have an interesting situation on my hands because we
• 1:34:24
  do have a carrier that's out for an undetermined amount of time
• 1:34:28
  right now. And the borrowed, RCA only works
• 1:34:33
  in his office on Saturdays regulars KDAY, rest of the week.
• 1:34:40
  He is with us running that one route.
• 1:34:43
  Technically I don't I don't fight it right now.
• 1:34:46
  I don't fight it because I cover everything in the office but a
• 1:34:49
  couple of the routes that we do have the other RCA's on a
• 1:34:54
  technically. I do believe I would be entitled
• 1:34:57
  to those hours ahead of him. Even though I I am assigned an
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  ox row. Well, as a double-edged sword
• 1:35:03
  there. Yes, it is.
• 1:35:06
  He clearly said, I don't make a huge deal about it at all
• 1:35:10
  because we're going to end up happening.
• 1:35:13
  You know, is this isn't yourself a record though, right?
• 1:35:17
  No, okay, so, because you're assigned to your and no 5 in 1,
• 1:35:23
  Ox for out. You only earn stick on your our
• 1:35:26
  Trail. So you're losing that If you
• 1:35:30
  work, the other route that other route with my Ox rope and that
• 1:35:34
  comes to a wesen 12-hour. Scheduled 45k is nine hours.
• 1:35:40
  Plus two point. Five, eight hours.
• 1:35:42
  Yes, I'm just under the 12-hour scheduled, okay?
• 1:35:45
  And I'm going to presume on a regular day or a typical day.
• 1:35:50
  I should say, you're running it in less than that.
• 1:35:52
  Maybe not by much, but you're running it in like, okay.
• 1:35:55
  So we don't have usually with that.
• 1:35:57
  I'm usually running it in less than nine hours.
• 1:35:59
  Yes. Well, I'm saying that you can
• 1:36:02
  bind if you're doing it to combine it's going to be less
• 1:36:05
  than as well. Oh yeah.
• 1:36:08
  That that's that's a catch-22 because as a senior RCA, yes,
• 1:36:14
  you could get those hours, but you're assigned to the oxygen,
• 1:36:17
  which means you're already scheduled.
• 1:36:19
  All right? You understand what I'm saying?
• 1:36:22
  You know, yes, you're the senior RCA.
• 1:36:29
  You should be. Able to catch those hours, you
• 1:36:34
  know, that you know, take that route if no one else has it on
• 1:36:38
  their Matrix and currently doing on the, you know, on the flip
• 1:36:42
  side of that coin is your assigned me and supposed to be
• 1:36:46
  scheduled on the ox route. I don't, I'm not sure where
• 1:36:50
  exactly it is, but I know for sure, your name can show up on
• 1:36:56
  742 40s for the week. Yes, I can, which sometimes it
• 1:37:01
  does. Host which is supposed to be
• 1:37:04
  your Ox Route, 6 days and your regular primary on that sixth
• 1:37:09
  day. We should use as a five and one
• 1:37:12
  it could be five days on the ox row and then have one of the
• 1:37:16
  other RCA's take it if I'm running my primary button.
• 1:37:20
  Yes. But in general, I'm entitled to
• 1:37:25
  your regular and irregular is off.
• 1:37:31
  They should Sliding through your regular route and getting
• 1:37:35
  technically getting coverage, for the ox.
• 1:37:37
  And this is where the issue came in yesterday.
• 1:37:41
  The fact that I was scheduled to run route for and my Ox route,
• 1:37:46
  which is no big deal Thunder. The 12 hours and my primary is
• 1:37:52
  the one that could not make it in due to the medical issue,
• 1:37:56
  right? Which was a call, well, which is
• 1:37:59
  actually has a day to yourself. Technically, I'm already
• 1:38:03
  scheduled so that technically pulls you out of the running
• 1:38:07
  there. However, management can say,
• 1:38:10
  we're going to switch it to your primary, you know, to your
• 1:38:13
  shovel record and put the Newport, you know, the other
• 1:38:17
  person on this other route, which was not possible because
• 1:38:20
  they were all both still, they were both working their ass
• 1:38:23
  right out. Now, here's the issue.
• 1:38:26
  Now, in that circumstance, you would think that they would try
• 1:38:29
  to get a hold of one of the regulars.
• 1:38:32
  They're off to see if they would come in.
• 1:38:35
  Am I right? That is that, that is a
• 1:38:40
  possibility, that they could have an Avenue.
• 1:38:42
  They could have tried, whatever. I'm not sure where my phone.
• 1:38:47
  No. But unless you, unless you're
• 1:38:50
  under my poom who says, you need to contact him first, you get
• 1:38:56
  permission before you can call a regular.
• 1:38:59
  And I would be inquiring about out that directive through your
• 1:39:04
  District representative or assistant this program, just to
• 1:39:09
  see if that is something. That is because the order
• 1:39:14
  consideration says RCA's in your office, you know, leave
• 1:39:19
  Replacements in your office, then they have any society
• 1:39:23
  around. They have the opt.
• 1:39:25
  At that point, they have been the key word is option to bring
• 1:39:28
  someone in nobody available. They actually It is really if
• 1:39:34
  they were closed, they were Quest neither one of them are
• 1:39:36
  already mandated by Q naught but if it's already if you're
• 1:39:42
  already into the day, you know it's already the day of your
• 1:39:47
  hands are tied on. You can't take, you know, say
• 1:39:50
  anything to the regular if they don't even answer the phone it's
• 1:39:54
  are scheduled day off and like, I finally got my management team
• 1:39:59
  taught that. If you don't tell me.
• 1:40:02
  Me the day before, consider my phone turned off until the next
• 1:40:05
  time on schedule. So yeah.
• 1:40:06
  So that's that's what I found out yesterday.
• 1:40:10
  Is people under this particular, poem management needs to contact
• 1:40:15
  him, you get permission prior to attempting to call in a regular
• 1:40:20
  on the relief so that left, that was a nice guy and I took just
• 1:40:25
  calling them in or In, because if they're on the relief, they
• 1:40:35
  were Cliffs. They're already getting
• 1:40:36
  scheduled. I'll tell you that right now,
• 1:40:38
  okay? Hence, that's why my regular had
• 1:40:41
  to call out. Is he was already schedule
• 1:40:44
  because they had me covering the other row.
• 1:40:46
  Okay. Oh yeah.
• 1:40:48
  Yesterday was a clusterfuck. It's the sound that sounds like
• 1:40:51
  someone wanting to micromanage. It's exactly.
• 1:40:54
  That is 100% exactly the boom that I have soccer.
• 1:40:59
  So yeah, it's great. That talker it's it's been a
• 1:41:03
  week for me. I will tell you that on the
• 1:41:07
  positive note because I want to try and wrap this up because
• 1:41:09
  it's getting kind of late and I do appreciate Clyde joining us
• 1:41:12
  tonight. I'm sorry I missed 95% of it, I
• 1:41:15
  will go back and listen to it and we can talk later.
• 1:41:17
  I will say though, I got all the instruments stuff taken care of
• 1:41:20
  with my car. For those that are listening to
• 1:41:22
  my little Saga, with my car, getting totaled out, I actually
• 1:41:26
  have gotten my portion of the settlement back which is enough
• 1:41:29
  to put a down payment on another one and And here's a shout out
• 1:41:33
  to Atlanta, Postal Credit Union everybody.
• 1:41:36
  If you haven't checked them out and you're looking for a credit
• 1:41:38
  union, please go check them out, they are fabulous.
• 1:41:44
  I call them as soon as I got phone with the insurance company
• 1:41:46
  to let the when they told me that they had her sending the
• 1:41:50
  check out to pay off the lien on my car, I called them up, they
• 1:41:56
  looked it up. They said yep we have that
• 1:41:57
  noted. I said do I have to wait till
• 1:41:59
  that payments received before? Lying for a new loan.
• 1:42:03
  She's like, no, we can't do that right now and they approved me
• 1:42:06
  for my loan. The next day, I got the
• 1:42:08
  confirmation and they approved me for the amount that I want.
• 1:42:12
  So I am hopefully by the beginning of next week.
• 1:42:15
  We'll be driving my new car. Nice.
• 1:42:18
  So I think we've been at it for almost two hours now.
• 1:42:20
  Yeah, it's almost 10:00. Yeah, it was nice to.
• 1:42:29
  Come on here and get out of here for a little bit.
• 1:42:31
  Around a little bit later since I got on here.
• 1:42:33
  Yeah, and thank you guys for a hold of it down.
• 1:42:37
  Why? I was out having dinner with
• 1:42:40
  some other members of the Union here, in the great state of
• 1:42:44
  Michigan. Where you'll have to tell me all
• 1:42:46
  about it later, I will. Yes, it was too, it was a good
• 1:42:49
  time. Food will start off with Clyde.
• 1:42:53
  You have any final thoughts for our listeners out there?
• 1:42:55
  RCA's. Well, first of all, thanks for
• 1:42:59
  having me. If you were to have me for that.
• 1:43:01
  Back, if you want to have me back for whatever reason, I want
• 1:43:05
  you to know that my weird sense of humor will grow on you, but
• 1:43:10
  the for RCA's out there, please don't take any shit.
• 1:43:13
  Alright, your regular doesn't own you a Local Union steward
• 1:43:17
  may or may not know what they're talking about.
• 1:43:19
  Don't be afraid to go up the chain of command, even if that
• 1:43:23
  means your Dr. If you need contact information for your Dr.
• 1:43:27
  You can find it pretty easily, either Union website, or go on
• 1:43:31
  Facebook. Booking ask somebody you are,
• 1:43:34
  you are human and don't let them push you around.
• 1:43:37
  Because if you do, then that just spreads and affects the
• 1:43:40
  rest of us. So, put up a fight, that's it.
• 1:43:43
  Absolutely, first of all, Clyde, thanks for coming and I'm not
• 1:43:49
  going to speak for anyone else, but I'm sure they agree.
• 1:43:53
  You are welcome back, anytime. I would say, if need be, you
• 1:43:58
  have the option. Also, if you're not getting I
• 1:44:02
  wouldn't feel is the whole complete.
• 1:44:05
  Correct. Answer from your Dr. You have
• 1:44:08
  the right to contact your National representative for the
• 1:44:12
  different realm and they have. Each member is a different
• 1:44:18
  region of the country, the country, which you can look that
• 1:44:22
  up to see who's covering your area, the hard part is finally
• 1:44:27
  over. Unfortunately we won't go for
• 1:44:29
  who knows how long I'll be. Process will play out.
• 1:44:34
  Hopefully everyone that did have disputes, it'll be favorable for
• 1:44:39
  them. Try and have a good week if you
• 1:44:42
  get overwhelmed, try not to get overwhelmed.
• 1:44:44
  If you do take a step back, take a deep breath.
• 1:44:47
  Step back in have a great golf. James, your turn.
• 1:44:52
  Well I'm gonna also agree with what Josh said.
• 1:44:56
  The biggest thing is to know who your contact information is all
• 1:45:01
  the way up. The chain is their biggest point
• 1:45:03
  of contact, is your local assignment designate doing
• 1:45:06
  representative. Whether it be in the office or
• 1:45:09
  your area Steward, you could have your assistant District
• 1:45:12
  reps or your District reps. If you're part of the Union,
• 1:45:17
  you'll get to get them in your state magazines that you get
• 1:45:21
  from them. If not you can go on the inner
• 1:45:24
  LCA website, look that up and you don't have to be a member to
• 1:45:27
  look that up either. And if not you can also talk
• 1:45:30
  with the national board. Lord, if you're just like Josh
• 1:45:33
  said, it's the contact information is on the inner LCA
• 1:45:37
  website and it's accessible to everybody, not just dues paying
• 1:45:41
  members. So remember we're all in this
• 1:45:43
  together. We got to take care of each
• 1:45:45
  other. Our RCA's are the biggest part
• 1:45:49
  of the union membership that we have because the RCA's.
• 1:45:55
  Our next regular carriers And our regular carriers need to
• 1:45:59
  remember that. At one point, they were Subs to,
• 1:46:02
  and they should not treat their subs, in negative ways.
• 1:46:06
  We want to keep them around as much as possible.
• 1:46:09
  Not just for our scheduled days off.
• 1:46:12
  But because we're going to be retiring, we're going to be
• 1:46:15
  moving on to future endeavors in our life and our retirement, and
• 1:46:20
  they're going to be the one stepping up to take over your
• 1:46:22
  route. So take care of your RCA's,
• 1:46:25
  RCA's take care of your regular. Carriers, let's make this.
• 1:46:28
  The best years in the rural craft, we can possibly do Step
• 1:46:32
  Up, take care of things and learn your craft.
• 1:46:35
  Now, it's your turn Kristen. All right, again, I want to
• 1:46:38
  thank life for joining us. You are welcome back, anytime.
• 1:46:42
  Thank you to James and Josh for holding this down for me while I
• 1:46:47
  was out spending an evening with fellow union members and I was I
• 1:46:53
  just had something in a totally with escaped my mind.
• 1:46:57
  But no on that note, like I said it's, you know, watching out for
• 1:47:02
  each other regulars, please. I mean there's a difference
• 1:47:06
  between coddling and and helping and mentoring and cuddling only
• 1:47:11
  goes so far anyways, I'm not a cuddler but I am there to
• 1:47:17
  Mentor, I still check on my to our two other RCA's in my office
• 1:47:24
  on a regular basis. If there's anything I, you know,
• 1:47:27
  And that also comes from not only being the senior RCA but
• 1:47:31
  also the o.j. I, I try to check in and see
• 1:47:34
  where they're going. Yeah, RCA's really are the
• 1:47:37
  backbone. I don't know what my office
• 1:47:40
  would do. Right now, without me, the way
• 1:47:41
  things have been going to last couple weeks.
• 1:47:44
  I really, I mean, I literally it was all right, how are we going
• 1:47:48
  to cover these routes? And I just, I pulled the other
• 1:47:51
  two RCA's. And I said, I know, either one
• 1:47:54
  of you have ran either of these two routes At all.
• 1:47:57
  So I'm going to split the smaller one and I gave one of
• 1:48:02
  you, if not both of you to volunteer to help me please
• 1:48:04
  because I can't run a 40K and a 45km, my own So they did they
• 1:48:11
  came together, you know, it's you kind of have to be a team.
• 1:48:15
  If you're an office with more in just a handful of RCA's, you
• 1:48:19
  really kind of have to team up in the past.
• 1:48:22
  I mean, before I current regular my primary, when he was still on
• 1:48:26
  RCA and we had another RCA that had transferred out and it was
• 1:48:29
  the three of us. We were like the Three
• 1:48:31
  Musketeers, they always, we always went out on smoke breaks
• 1:48:34
  together. We were, I mean, the three of
• 1:48:37
  us, still talk even though one Not even in our office.
• 1:48:40
  You kind of have to build that camaraderie within the office as
• 1:48:45
  RCA's. And it definitely helps
• 1:48:48
  especially if you're covering a route that you may not know as
• 1:48:51
  well, but North another RCA does and vice versa.
• 1:48:55
  You can help each other out. Actually, when it comes to
• 1:48:58
  learning a new route or just coverage in general, if you have
• 1:49:02
  to get stuck splitting routes, try you don't have to like the
• 1:49:06
  person but you have to get along with them.
• 1:49:08
  That's That's my point advices. You may not have to like them
• 1:49:12
  but you kind of have to get along with them and try to keep
• 1:49:15
  the peace and work together. It is, you know, as much as it's
• 1:49:18
  an independent job out on the road.
• 1:49:21
  It's a team effort in the office.
• 1:49:24
  So on that note I'm going to wrap them and so we can all get
• 1:49:27
  off of here and enjoy the rest of our night.
• 1:49:30
  I want everybody to be safe. Mauro is Monday and be safe out
• 1:49:35
  there and take it in stride. So on that note, And we should
• 1:49:39
  be back next week and we'll talk to you then.
• 1:49:42
  And as bill says, make sure you make it home for your family.
• 1:49:44
  Yes, yes. Yes.
• 1:49:46
  Are the most important delivery.