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Chuck & Buck 5-19 Hour 2: Headlines and the Piggyback Experiment and OPQ! · Chuck in the Morning

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  Speaker 1: All, good morning, it is seven o'clock. It's Chuck Powell,
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  Speaker 1: Anders Hurst and Travis Moger with you here this morning. Ashley.
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  Speaker 1: We'll be doing the ten o'clock show today, big host
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  Speaker 1: chair for Ashley today at ten o'clock. Bucky still out
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  Speaker 1: for a little while longer, and so we will have
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  Speaker 1: more information on that, I do believe later on this week,
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  Speaker 1: with some sort of plan going forward that we can
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  Speaker 1: tell you about. But we've got Travis, we got Andrews.
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  Speaker 1: My name is Chuck Pow. Welcome to our seven o'clock
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  Speaker 1: hour here on this Tuesday. So many great juicy topics
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  Speaker 1: to discuss, most of the Mariner related but what a
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  Speaker 1: night in the sports world, which we will recap with
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  Speaker 1: headlines here in a moment. Let me start the hour
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  Speaker 1: a better chance that you can win the Grand Slam
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  Speaker 1: cash than Lloyd Christmas had of hooking up with Lauren Holly. Okay, Okay,
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  Speaker 1: I was way hard, I was way off. Let's get
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  Speaker 1: to your headlines. They're brought to you by Frost Brewed
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  Speaker 1: Corps Light to choose chill. We will start with the NBA.
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  Speaker 1: One of the greatest games that you'll ever see on
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  Speaker 1: a basketball floor was played last night between the San
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  Speaker 1: Antonio Spurs and the Oklahoma City Thunder. And considering how
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  Speaker 1: much hype there was going into this game, like nine
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  Speaker 1: months worth of hype going into this game, it certainly
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  Speaker 1: lived up to the billing. The Spurs win by seven.
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  Speaker 1: Victor Wembanyama forty one points, twenty four rebounds, and three
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  Speaker 1: block shots in the contest, plus he hit the big
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  Speaker 1: clutch shots for them. As well down the stretch. He
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  Speaker 1: outshined the MVP last night without question, because not only
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  Speaker 1: was he phenomenal, SGA was not very good at all
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  Speaker 1: by his own admittance. And that's probably not actually a
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  Speaker 1: great sign for San Antonio that the Thunder at home
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  Speaker 1: went to overtime and almost beat the Spurs last night,
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  Speaker 1: even though the Thunder looked very rusty last night and
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  Speaker 1: SGA played bad last night, and yet it still took
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  Speaker 1: an overtime session for the Spurs to win Game number one.
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  Speaker 1: But you'd rather win it than lose it. We'll talk
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  Speaker 1: more about winby coming up later on this show. Eastern
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  Speaker 1: Conference finals start tonight Cleveland at New York Stanley Cup Playoffs.
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  Speaker 1: I was exciting too, three to overtime win and a
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  Speaker 1: Game seven for the Montreal Canadians over the Buffalo Savers,
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  Speaker 1: those poor Savers three to the final score in overtime.
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  Speaker 1: Last night. I was invited to a you can have
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  Speaker 1: a billion dollars party. Oh yeah, Like everybody that showed
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  Speaker 1: up that got an invite, special invite, You just reached
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  Speaker 1: under your chair like you were an OPRAH convention. Yeah,
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  Speaker 1: and then there was a billion dollars under the chair. Wow,
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  Speaker 1: And I'm like, I can't go. I gotta stay home
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  Speaker 1: and watch the Stanley Cup playoffs because I've heard there's
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  Speaker 1: nothing like a game seven.
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  Speaker 3: Yeah, so I guess, then again, I'm going to go back.
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  Speaker 3: You made the right decision.
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  Speaker 1: Yeah, I agree. Yeah, I mean, I guess there are
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  Speaker 1: some perks to be in a billionaire. But sure it
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  Speaker 1: was a game seven in the Stanley Cup playoffs and
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  Speaker 1: winning wasn't gonna leave the couch. Mariners won six to
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  Speaker 1: one over the White Sox last night, maybe the most
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  Speaker 1: complete game they've played this season. Got a great starting
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  Speaker 1: pitching performance from Brian wu bullpen, with the exception of
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  Speaker 1: Bizardo having a little wonky time in the seventh, did
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  Speaker 1: its job. Cold Emerson hit a three run homer. Josh
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  Speaker 1: Naylor and Randy A. Rose Arena are locked in at
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  Speaker 1: this point in the season, and they rolled to a
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  Speaker 1: six to one win over the White Sox to snap
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  Speaker 1: a three game losing streak and with a win tonight,
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  Speaker 1: can be in first place. That's right, you heard me right,
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  Speaker 1: that could happen.
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  Speaker 3: Every Aos team is under five hundred right now.
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  Speaker 1: It's going to be Anthony Ka pitching for the White Sox.
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  Speaker 1: We make him look like special K. Everybody else makes
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  Speaker 1: him look like Mary Kay.
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  Speaker 2: And yet that's that's.
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  Speaker 1: Our doing right there. So we'll face the left hander
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  Speaker 1: Anthony k tonight at six forty and the Mariners are
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  Speaker 1: gonna go with the Great hig Back Experiment of twenty
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  Speaker 1: twenty six tonight. So we're going to discuss it right
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  Speaker 1: now here on the program because this is a fascinating
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  Speaker 1: little twist to the season. I've never heard anyone do this.
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  Speaker 2: This.
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  Speaker 1: What's kind of crazy about this is I brought this
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  Speaker 1: up last year with Emerson Hancock, and I think it
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  Speaker 1: might have even been a Reckless at Breakfast. Yeah, now,
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  Speaker 1: that segment, Reckless at Breakfast, if you haven't figured it out,
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  Speaker 1: is supposed to be outlandish, and it's supposed to be
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  Speaker 1: Bucky and Ashley telling me how crazy I am. Not
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  Speaker 1: necessarily telling me I'm right or wrong, but how crazy.
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  Speaker 1: The thought is.
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  Speaker 3: When's the last thing something that was brought up at
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  Speaker 3: Reckless at Breakfast happened, happens all the time, really happens
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  Speaker 3: a college football playoffs?
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  Speaker 1: Okay, NFL going broader with the European thing.
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  Speaker 3: Okay, it's been a lot of things we need to
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  Speaker 3: rename it. We need to rename the segment. Then it's
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  Speaker 3: not reckless anymore. If all these things happen, it's like
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  Speaker 3: future maybe I don't know.
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  Speaker 1: Yeah, we'll think about that, Chucks Crystal Ball. No, I mean, look,
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  Speaker 1: this is not about getting credit. This is more of
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  Speaker 1: like establishing that I have I have entertained this idea
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  Speaker 1: for the Mariners in the past, and so I'm not
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  Speaker 1: going to come on here today and say that it's
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  Speaker 1: stupid what they're going to try to pull off today.
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  Speaker 1: Because my thought was, if you could do an Emerson Hancock,
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  Speaker 1: like you start one guy for five and he goes four,
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  Speaker 1: is there a possibility here that you could give your
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  Speaker 1: bullpen a night off one time through the rotation in theory, yeah,
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  Speaker 1: I mean it's not always going to work out. One
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  Speaker 1: of them might get sheld, you know, that's a possibility.
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  Speaker 1: Both of them might get sheld. You never know. But
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  Speaker 1: what they're doing tonight if you if you still don't
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  Speaker 1: understand the plan I think most of you do, is
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  Speaker 1: they've got six starting pitchers and they've got five rotation spots.
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  Speaker 1: And even though they went to a six man rotation
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  Speaker 1: for a week, that was because they had an extra game.
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  Speaker 1: They didn't have a day off last week, so they decided, well,
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  Speaker 1: we don't have to make the decision right now. Let's
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  Speaker 1: just put Bryce Miller in that sixth slot, and then
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  Speaker 1: next week we'll figure out how we want to do
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  Speaker 1: this going forward. They could have very easily kept with
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  Speaker 1: that six man rotation, but they have decided, and a
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  Speaker 1: lot of baseball people feel this way, why would you
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  Speaker 1: do that to the pitchers like Brian wu and Emerson
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  Speaker 1: Hancock and George Kirby who have actually been good, Yeah,
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  Speaker 1: most starts this year, You're just spreading out the time
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  Speaker 1: between their starts, and a lot of baseball people believe
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  Speaker 1: that's not the way you should go about it, even
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  Speaker 1: though the Dodgers right now have an active six man
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  Speaker 1: rotation going on and they're doing just fine. Of course,
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  Speaker 1: they have a payroll of a jillion dollars. So the
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  Speaker 1: Mariners have decided we're going to give this a shot,
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  Speaker 1: this great piggyback experiment of twenty twenty six, where Bryce
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  Speaker 1: Miller is the one that's actually going to get the
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  Speaker 1: start tonight and Luis Castillo's gonna pitch out of the bullpen.
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  Speaker 1: But the idea is Bryce Miller starts for five or
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  Speaker 1: six innings and Luis Castillo goes for three to five
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  Speaker 1: innings on the backside, and maybe you can get through
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  Speaker 1: a night without having to touch your bullpen, which I
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  Speaker 1: find ander's to be a very interesting theory. Now you
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  Speaker 1: have to execute it, and that remains to be seen.
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  Speaker 1: But in terms of experimenting with an idea that's outside
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  Speaker 1: the box, I gotta go with. I'm interested to see
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  Speaker 1: how it plays out. I don't think this is a
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  Speaker 1: bad idea. I don't even think it's a cop out.
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  Speaker 1: I think this could actually be a solution to this thing.
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  Speaker 3: Yeah, I mean, it just depends on how much confidence
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  Speaker 3: you have in the mariners to, like you said, execute this,
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  Speaker 3: because there is some subjectivity to you know, when to
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  Speaker 3: take the guy out, when to let him in, and
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  Speaker 3: you know, okay, if Luis Castillo comes in and starts
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  Speaker 3: to struggle in the first couple of innings, like are
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  Speaker 3: you going to give him a quick yank or are
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  Speaker 3: you going to give him kind of as many pitches
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  Speaker 3: as you can depending on the game situation. There's a
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  Speaker 3: lot of touch and go with this kind of stuff.
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  Speaker 3: And yeah, and as someone who doesn't have a ton
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  Speaker 3: of confidence, in confidence in the in game management of
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  Speaker 3: the current Mariners.
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  Speaker 1: Well, this makes it easier. Then I have one decision
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  Speaker 1: to make. Okay, when to take Miller out? Okay, that's
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  Speaker 1: the only decision.
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  Speaker 3: But then theoretic yeah yeah, but then there becomes more
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  Speaker 3: very like I said, if Louis Castillo comes in and struggles, yeah, sure,
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  Speaker 3: then where do you go with there? The other thing
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  Speaker 3: is its again, it depends on how you view Louis Castio.
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  Speaker 3: Is he technically another starter, is he a bullpen arm, whatever?
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  Speaker 3: But you're you're operating with one less traditional bullpen arm
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  Speaker 3: right now because you have six ish starters on the
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  Speaker 3: roster right now, and you're gonna have to kind of,
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  Speaker 3: as you said, let them go. And last night, I
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  Speaker 3: now we're talking about the He's Castium Bryce Miller here,
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  Speaker 3: but last night Brian will was just dealing ninety pitches
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  Speaker 3: through six innings. I would have liked to see him
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  Speaker 3: go out for that extra seventh inning. And why that
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  Speaker 3: relates to this is because when you have seven six
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  Speaker 3: starters in your rotation, technically right now, you're gonna have
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  Speaker 3: to squeeze every single out that you possibly can out
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  Speaker 3: of those guys. Because you have one less bullpen arm
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  Speaker 3: to go to now, so you can't just give them
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  Speaker 3: a quick cook as.
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  Speaker 1: But this would solve.
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  Speaker 3: That casill Is Louis Castillo. A traditional bullpen arm where
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  Speaker 3: you can bring him in at anytime, doesn't have to
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  Speaker 3: be the piggyback.
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  Speaker 1: No, not at this point. Okay, no, but if you
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  Speaker 1: are getting one time through a rotation where you don't
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  Speaker 1: have to use your bullpen, that solves the issue of
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  Speaker 1: not having enough arms in your bullpen because now you
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  Speaker 1: don't even have to use them once every five days.
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  Speaker 1: And it is in theory, It is in theory, but
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  Speaker 1: I mean, I don't. The fear that I have is
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  Speaker 1: that Castillo's just not used to that role, right, And
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  Speaker 1: if you're going to take a guy who's been nothing
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  Speaker 1: but a starting pitcher and now you're telling him they're
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  Speaker 1: pulling the rug out from him a little bit, a
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  Speaker 1: little the pride got hurt a little bit that he
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  Speaker 1: was tabbed as you're the sixth guy, but you're kind
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  Speaker 1: of the five and a half guy, and so he's
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  Speaker 1: gonna have to deal with that a little bit. Then
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  Speaker 1: he's got to get used to getting warmed up in
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  Speaker 1: the middle of the game. And he also doesn't know
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  Speaker 1: when that will be because what I don't think you
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  Speaker 1: can do is say you're going five, You're going four,
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  Speaker 1: no matter now. I don't think you can do that.
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  Speaker 1: I think you have to pay. I mean, there might
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  Speaker 1: be a bridge guy in between. Like if Miller gets
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  Speaker 1: in trouble in the middle of an inning, I don't
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  Speaker 1: think they'll go to Castillo in the middle of an inning,
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  Speaker 1: So there might be a bridge guy in between. But
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  Speaker 1: in theory, if Luis Castillo is right, which we're not
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  Speaker 1: sure if he's right right now, that if you went
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  Speaker 1: five and a third with Miller, two thirds with Ferrer,
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  Speaker 1: and then three innings with Luis Castillo, that saves your
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  Speaker 1: bullpen for a night, and it does that every five nights,
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  Speaker 1: and that more than compensates for you having one less
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  Speaker 1: arm in the bullpen.
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  Speaker 3: Yeah, and I actually think he might like mentally, I
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  Speaker 3: don't know about you know, his actual pitching ability will
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  Speaker 3: play up in the bullpen, but mentally, I think he'll
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  Speaker 3: be open to the idea. We talked about this a
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  Speaker 3: couple times on our Stove podcast. But if you remember
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  Speaker 3: a couple of years ago when they took away his
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  Speaker 3: rights as the opening day starter kind of you talk
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  Speaker 3: about the hierarchy, you know, opening day starter means you're
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  Speaker 3: kind of the top guy, you're still in the rotation,
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  Speaker 3: and obviously then the guys that aren't in the rotation.
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  Speaker 3: He was like very open to it and wanted to
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  Speaker 3: be the one to tell Logan Gilbert that he was
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  Speaker 3: now the opening day starter. So if he has that
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  Speaker 3: same mentality with this situation, he just wants to do
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  Speaker 3: what's best for his team to win, and I have
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  Speaker 3: faith that he will figure out a way to still
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  Speaker 3: be effective for the Mariners in whatever role that he
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  Speaker 3: ends up playing.
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  Speaker 1: Three things. Number one, and this is without dispute, he
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  Speaker 1: is a great teammate. They love him. They love him
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  Speaker 1: like all of those pitches that is big brother on
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  Speaker 1: the team. They all adore Luis Castile and number two.
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  Speaker 1: I think he's earned that, so I think that he'll
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  Speaker 1: be okay with it. Pete Woodworth is number two. He
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  Speaker 1: Woodworth told us on our airwaves when we discussed this
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  Speaker 1: a week ago, week and a half ago, this very
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  Speaker 1: topic he's His response was, our guys will pitch when
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  Speaker 1: we asked them to pitch. There's not going to be
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  Speaker 1: an issue whether it's a six man rotation or a
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  Speaker 1: piggyback situation, or if one's asked to go to the bullpen.
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  Speaker 1: He believes so much in the personalities of his six
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  Speaker 1: guys that he has in this rotation that he doesn't
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  Speaker 1: think it's going to be an issue at all. He
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  Speaker 1: is unwavering about that, And so that's so those are
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  Speaker 1: two elements right now that kind of shoot down whether
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  Speaker 1: or not Luis Castillo could end up having a problem
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  Speaker 1: with this. I think that he's had it explained to
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  Speaker 1: him and he probably did put his arms around it.
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  Speaker 1: Now can he function? That's the question. See, I think
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  Speaker 1: Bryce Miller, even though I think Bryce is the better pitcher.
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  Speaker 1: I think actually Castillo starts and then Miller. If you
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  Speaker 1: have committed to this and now all of a sudden
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  Speaker 1: Castillo doesn't have it, yes, now you're blowing up the
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  Speaker 1: bullpen all over it kind of screwed. Yeah, But if
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  Speaker 1: you start the game and Castile gets into any trouble
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  Speaker 1: at all, and you have more faith than Miller, then
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  Speaker 1: you have Ferreer or whoever gets you through that transition inning,
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  Speaker 1: and then Miller could theoretically pitch for the next seven innings.
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  Speaker 1: You know, so you could still pull off the same thing.
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  Speaker 1: I think I would put the guy number one who
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  Speaker 1: I have the most faith in to.
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  Speaker 2: Be better yes second, believe it or not.
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  Speaker 1: And also I think Bryce Miller is not so steeped
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  Speaker 1: as a starting pitcher in his routine. Bryce Miller is
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  Speaker 1: one of those guys like I don't care give me
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  Speaker 1: the ball.
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  Speaker 2: I'm just gonna throw a fast ball.
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  Speaker 1: I'm throw fat ball. I'm gonna get up there fast.
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  Speaker 1: I think Bryce Miller could give two craps. He just
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  Speaker 1: like I want. I'll do whatever it takes. Where Castile
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  Speaker 1: might take it a little personally, and Castile might be
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  Speaker 1: a little too set in his ways, and Castile might
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  Speaker 1: not know how to get ready in the middle of
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  Speaker 1: a game, where I think Bryce might have an easier
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  Speaker 1: time doing that. So I mean, I get it. And
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  Speaker 1: this is this is the experimentation, right. We got Bunsen
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  Speaker 1: burners out out Jerry and Justin and they've got their
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  Speaker 1: safety goggles on, you know, and they're putting an eye
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  Speaker 1: of Newt in this little boiling pot. And then this
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  Speaker 1: Bunsen burner's got some sort of blue liquid in it,
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  Speaker 1: and uh, and they're just like adding different elements to
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  Speaker 1: it to try to figure out what works. But their
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  Speaker 1: theory is I'm guessing Bryce right now is the one
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  Speaker 1: we have more faith in, right, and if Bryce is
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  Speaker 1: letting it rip, we might be able to just ride
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  Speaker 1: him in six seven shutout innings right out of the shoot.
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  Speaker 1: And hey, if we don't use Castillo that night, or
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  Speaker 1: if we just use him for two innings, then so
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  Speaker 1: be it. Yeah. I think if Castillo really did embrace it,
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  Speaker 1: he could still have a great career as a reliever
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  Speaker 1: like John Smoltz had at the end of his career.
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  Speaker 1: But that's hard to do in the middle of the
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  Speaker 1: year with you know, pride on the line, emotions on
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  Speaker 1: the line, and also your routine is being disrupted, and
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  Speaker 1: today's athletes, more so than at any time in the
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  Speaker 1: history of sports, are slaves to their routine.
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  Speaker 3: Yeah, and I think if you're kind of debating which
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  Speaker 3: one and which role is better, I agree with you
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  Speaker 3: that Bryce Miller's stuff plays up more later in the game.
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  Speaker 3: You know, theoretically, if you're have a decent start from Castill,
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  Speaker 3: you can get through once maybe twice through the order,
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  Speaker 3: whether that's four innings whatever. However many times that takes
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  Speaker 3: and then Bryce Miller comes in and just absolutely shoves
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  Speaker 3: and gives him a whole nother look. That that I
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  Speaker 3: think is the highest like ceiling of this plan, so
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  Speaker 3: to speak. But you also kind of put in the
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  Speaker 3: possibility if you believe that Bryce Miller is the better pitcher,
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  Speaker 3: which I agree with you that as well, then Luis
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  Speaker 3: Castillo could blow up and it's five zero like right
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  Speaker 3: within the first couple of days, and.
• 17:24
  Speaker 1: Maybe you do have to go with the better one
• 17:26
  Speaker 1: and then just ride him. And if he gives you
• 17:28
  Speaker 1: seven shutout innings, he gives you seven shutout innings, and
• 17:32
  Speaker 1: then maybe you don't piggyback. Yeah.
• 17:34
  Speaker 4: I think even if this does end up blowing up
• 17:36
  Speaker 4: in their faces, I think it's worth a shot to
• 17:39
  Speaker 4: agree if it actually does work, because the other options
• 17:43
  Speaker 4: are worse in my opinion, you know, just sending Castillo
• 17:47
  Speaker 4: to the bullpen altogether, Yeah, I think that will be it.
• 17:49
  Speaker 3: What would not work out? Really, this could be a
• 17:52
  Speaker 3: huge transition. This could be the transition for that though,
• 17:55
  Speaker 3: I agree.
• 17:56
  Speaker 1: I mean, we have him for one more year, yeah,
• 17:58
  Speaker 1: and Kate Anderson's coming to by the way, sure, And
• 18:01
  Speaker 1: so I think Luis Castillo, if I mean he's not
• 18:05
  Speaker 1: going to be tradable in the offseason, and so the
• 18:08
  Speaker 1: idea of being transitioning him right now into next year
• 18:13
  Speaker 1: being I think he could be a nasty back into
• 18:17
  Speaker 1: the bullpen guy.
• 18:18
  Speaker 2: I think so too. I think so too.
• 18:20
  Speaker 1: I mean, he got back. He was throwing ninety seven
• 18:22
  Speaker 1: in his last outing. Yeah, before that, it was ninety
• 18:25
  Speaker 1: two to ninety four when he was pitching in the cold. Yeah.
• 18:28
  Speaker 1: And where was it, Minneapolis? It was ninety two to
• 18:31
  Speaker 1: ninety four. I mean, that's Casey leging Mina. That's not
• 18:34
  Speaker 1: Louis Castile. But if he's letting it rip and he
• 18:38
  Speaker 1: knows I only got two three innings to work here,
• 18:41
  Speaker 1: and I can throw ninety eight ninety nine because I
• 18:44
  Speaker 1: can just let it all hang out. I don't have
• 18:45
  Speaker 1: to pace myself, and he can get that his movement back.
• 18:49
  Speaker 1: I think he could be really dangerous in that role,
• 18:53
  Speaker 1: but it is hard to just do that overnight totally. Hey,
• 18:56
  Speaker 1: you're a starting pitcher your entire career now.
• 19:00
  Speaker 3: Reliever wa And I like the John Smoltz reference because
• 19:05
  Speaker 3: I actually get that one first of all, but also
• 19:10
  Speaker 3: like that is a good example of how this works.
• 19:13
  Speaker 3: He became an elite reliever at the later point of
• 19:16
  Speaker 3: his career. But how many instances are there of that
• 19:19
  Speaker 3: where they try and put starters into relievers.
• 19:22
  Speaker 2: How much? How much does it actually turn out to
• 19:24
  Speaker 2: be a success.
• 19:25
  Speaker 1: Well, not many people do it. Dennis Eckers League became
• 19:28
  Speaker 1: a Hall of Famers another one.
• 19:30
  Speaker 2: Yep.
• 19:30
  Speaker 1: I mean there have been, there have been some examples,
• 19:32
  Speaker 1: and it all comes down to, first, you still have
• 19:34
  Speaker 1: to have the talent to pull it off. But also
• 19:37
  Speaker 1: part of it is you have to be in an
• 19:39
  Speaker 1: organization that has too many starting pitchers, and that just
• 19:42
  Speaker 1: doesn't happen anywhere. That's why this is such a strange situation,
• 19:48
  Speaker 1: you know. I mean, we've talked about it at nauseum,
• 19:50
  Speaker 1: and yet the conversation does not get less interesting, or
• 19:54
  Speaker 1: at least from my perspective, it doesn't get less interesting.
• 19:57
  Speaker 1: And now we're trying something that has never been a before, right,
• 20:01
  Speaker 1: We've never had slotted it out where you are going
• 20:06
  Speaker 1: to pitch this many innings and then you're going to
• 20:09
  Speaker 1: pitch the rest of the game. I mean, in theory,
• 20:11
  Speaker 1: that's how it's supposed to work out. Bryce goes five,
• 20:14
  Speaker 1: Castillo goes four, everybody else in the bullpen rests. We
• 20:18
  Speaker 1: keep them lengthened in case they have to go back
• 20:22
  Speaker 1: to being starting pitchers at some point. We don't have
• 20:24
  Speaker 1: to introduce them to a completely new role. But one
• 20:27
  Speaker 1: of the two is going to have to figure out
• 20:30
  Speaker 1: how to be a starting pitcher in the middle of
• 20:33
  Speaker 1: a game. That's what's going to have to happen. And
• 20:36
  Speaker 1: they've chosen Castillo to fill that role. And I get
• 20:39
  Speaker 1: why they're doing it. Just to your point, Bryce is
• 20:41
  Speaker 1: the better pitcher. Why not start the game with Zeros, yes,
• 20:45
  Speaker 1: and then figure out it, figure out everything on the
• 20:48
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• 20:51
  Speaker 1: Ferrer and Bizardo are already as a matter of fact,
• 20:54
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• 20:58
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• 21:01
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• 21:02
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• 21:04
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• 21:07
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• 21:16
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• 21:22
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• 24:45
  Speaker 1: wimban Yama, who put on a show last night in
• 24:48
  Speaker 1: the Western Conference Finals. The Spurs won over the thunder
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  Speaker 1: He's just he's just remarkable. And I mean, I think
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• 25:29
  Speaker 1: this stage, but you know, there's a long way to
• 25:33
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• 25:37
  Speaker 1: I was just say this, this is the only thing
• 25:41
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• 25:43
  Speaker 1: I love them. When I watched Jordan dominate and when
• 25:49
  Speaker 1: I watched Lebron dominate, my only thought ever was I
• 25:54
  Speaker 1: like I thought they were like invincible. Yeah, Like Lebron
• 25:59
  Speaker 1: could like fall down a flight of stairs and he
• 26:02
  Speaker 1: would get up and be like he'd limp, and then
• 26:06
  Speaker 1: he'd shoot free throws and then he'd sprint.
• 26:08
  Speaker 2: Back the other way, cramp, cramp.
• 26:10
  Speaker 1: Every time Wimby gets in traffic or gets in trouble,
• 26:15
  Speaker 1: I'm sure he's not going to get up.
• 26:18
  Speaker 4: Do you guys have that same experience He's gonna snap
• 26:20
  Speaker 4: in half or something.
• 26:21
  Speaker 1: Yes, Like he's just too lean. And look, we had
• 26:25
  Speaker 1: Kevin Durant at seven foot tall, and a lot of
• 26:27
  Speaker 1: people worried about that when he came into the league.
• 26:30
  Speaker 1: He's just too skinny and he's not going to be
• 26:32
  Speaker 1: durable enough. And look at the career that he has
• 26:34
  Speaker 1: put together. Well, Wemby's five inches taller and a little
• 26:40
  Speaker 1: I don't think he's thinner than when Durant came out
• 26:43
  Speaker 1: of college, but as thin and the limbs are longer,
• 26:47
  Speaker 1: and it's just it's like a like a giraffe falling
• 26:51
  Speaker 1: down the stairs. Like every time he goes into the
• 26:54
  Speaker 1: lane and he gets bumped and he's on the ground
• 26:57
  Speaker 1: a lot, and that's the only thing, Like will he
• 27:01
  Speaker 1: be Jordan? Will he be Lebron? I'm not sure because
• 27:05
  Speaker 1: he's getting up now, yeah, but I'm not sure after
• 27:09
  Speaker 1: five more years of that, if he's gonna get up every.
• 27:12
  Speaker 2: Time, I don't know. Yeah.
• 27:14
  Speaker 3: And the one kind of I'll play Devil's advocate here
• 27:17
  Speaker 3: because I genuinely agree with you, because it's just the
• 27:20
  Speaker 3: thicker guys tend to last a little bit longer, right,
• 27:23
  Speaker 3: But they also means less weight on his knees. So
• 27:26
  Speaker 3: like the impact of everything, like it just by jumping
• 27:30
  Speaker 3: up and down, we all saw what happened to Derek
• 27:31
  Speaker 3: Rose's career because how much explosiveness he played with.
• 27:36
  Speaker 1: So it was a short er six four, yeah, compact,
• 27:40
  Speaker 1: strong looking guy exactly, and he had all sorts injuries exactly.
• 27:43
  Speaker 1: That's so that's my point.
• 27:44
  Speaker 3: So someone who maybe has built a little leaner in
• 27:46
  Speaker 3: terms of the high impact and everything that everyone worries
• 27:49
  Speaker 3: about with basketball's knees more than anything else because you're
• 27:52
  Speaker 3: jumping so much and you kind of have these weird
• 27:55
  Speaker 3: landing spots. I could see a couple times where, you know,
• 27:59
  Speaker 3: if he gets land on by someone bigger than him
• 28:01
  Speaker 3: or thicker than him. I guess I should say that
• 28:04
  Speaker 3: you could make the argument that there are some worries there,
• 28:07
  Speaker 3: but I also think a lot of this stuff is
• 28:10
  Speaker 3: with your mentality. And I saw a killer instinct last
• 28:12
  Speaker 3: night from Wemby that I hadn't watched a ton of
• 28:16
  Speaker 3: NBA in the playoffs much either, but something that he
• 28:19
  Speaker 3: showed me last night because he was he's a killer. Yeah,
• 28:23
  Speaker 3: he's out to get you and it does work for him. No,
• 28:25
  Speaker 3: it is an element that I didn't know he had
• 28:28
  Speaker 3: in him. He has that eye of the tigers.
• 28:30
  Speaker 2: It does.
• 28:31
  Speaker 1: I mean seven foot five inch skinny frenchman, Like, I'm
• 28:35
  Speaker 1: sitting there thinking, like, you know, I'm not sure you're
• 28:38
  Speaker 1: going to have the eye of the tiger, and that's
• 28:40
  Speaker 1: unfair on my part right to think that way. But
• 28:43
  Speaker 1: you know, I think I think you're probably miming in
• 28:48
  Speaker 1: the part on Saturdays, that's what And instead this guy's
• 28:52
  Speaker 1: just he goes after it. He's a menace on the floor.
• 28:56
  Speaker 1: You're absolutely right, and I love that about him. But
• 28:58
  Speaker 1: I do wonder, Travis if it does worked to his
• 29:00
  Speaker 1: detriment eventually. I mean, there's a reason why we worry
• 29:03
  Speaker 1: about this stuff because Bill Walton broke down at seven
• 29:06
  Speaker 1: to one, and and Ralph Samson broke down at seven four,
• 29:10
  Speaker 1: and Sean Bradley broke down at seven six, and Yaoming
• 29:13
  Speaker 1: broke down at seven six. I mean, and he's skinnier
• 29:17
  Speaker 1: than all of them. Yeah, And so I do worry
• 29:20
  Speaker 1: about it. Every time I see him go down. It's
• 29:22
  Speaker 1: like a transformer down an escalator, and I'm like, is
• 29:26
  Speaker 1: he gonna get up from this this time? And he
• 29:29
  Speaker 1: does now, But I wonder if that's going to sustain itself.
• 29:32
  Speaker 1: I think that's a legitimate concern.
• 29:34
  Speaker 4: Absolutely, Hopefully you know, modern sports medicine is the best
• 29:39
  Speaker 4: it's ever been, sure obviously, And do.
• 29:41
  Speaker 3: You mean by that you mean load management?
• 29:45
  Speaker 1: Well, yes, there's that too, that's yeah, sixty five games?
• 29:50
  Speaker 1: Did he did he get the number exactly?
• 29:51
  Speaker 4: I think I don't know exactly, but that's definitely another
• 29:54
  Speaker 4: part of that.
• 29:55
  Speaker 1: Yeah, for sure.
• 29:55
  Speaker 4: But you hope they can keep him healthy and he's
• 29:59
  Speaker 4: he's definitely the future sure of the NBA.
• 30:01
  Speaker 1: Mm hmmm.
• 30:02
  Speaker 4: So they're going to do everything everything they can for
• 30:04
  Speaker 4: sure to keep them healthy, which is why they should
• 30:07
  Speaker 4: probably not be pushing load management so much right now
• 30:11
  Speaker 4: or fighting against load management, Yes, right now, because I
• 30:14
  Speaker 4: think he would benefit from a sixty five game schedule
• 30:19
  Speaker 4: at his size.
• 30:20
  Speaker 1: And making sure that he's healthy and ready to go
• 30:23
  Speaker 1: for the playoffs. But no, there is a dog and
• 30:25
  Speaker 1: mentality about him. He doesn't back down from anything. And
• 30:28
  Speaker 1: I think maybe the best thing going on in sports
• 30:31
  Speaker 1: right now anders is when he is at the top
• 30:35
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• 30:39
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• 30:42
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• 30:48
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• 30:51
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• 30:54
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• 30:57
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• 31:00
  Speaker 1: one thing I always thought I was watching a pterodactyl
• 31:03
  Speaker 1: play when I was watching Yannis. And then this guy's
• 31:06
  Speaker 1: longer than they, honest, yeah, longer than Durant, and I
• 31:10
  Speaker 1: think fearcer than both of them.
• 31:12
  Speaker 3: Yeah, I think, yeah, especially when you look at how
• 31:15
  Speaker 3: much he opens the playbook, so to speak. You don't
• 31:17
  Speaker 3: even have to run plays for him. Just give him space,
• 31:20
  Speaker 3: you know what I mean. But he actually think his
• 31:22
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• 31:26
  Speaker 1: Guys for him.
• 31:28
  Speaker 3: And like you got some defensive masters, you got some
• 31:31
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• 31:33
  Speaker 1: And NBA didn't rig those lotteries at all, not.
• 31:36
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• 31:42
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• 31:47
  Speaker 3: min Yama man, it's I'm excited to watch him play.
• 31:50
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• 31:53
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  Speaker 1: Well, I mean, honestly, and I've talked about this a
• 31:58
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• 32:01
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• 32:08
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• 32:14
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• 32:29
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• 32:40
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• 32:45
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• 32:49
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• 32:52
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• 32:56
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• 33:03
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• 33:11
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• 33:14
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  Speaker 1: That's exactly we did not share this, That's exactly who
• 34:54
  Speaker 1: I think.
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  Speaker 3: Yeah, just athletically something that we hadn't seen at that
• 34:57
  Speaker 3: position before. He unlocks aspects of the game that you
• 35:03
  Speaker 3: didn't think existed right before that. Yeah, and just incredibly
• 35:08
  Speaker 3: fun to watch soup, Like, I don't know, that's just
• 35:10
  Speaker 3: the first name that came to my mind.
• 35:12
  Speaker 1: That is exactly the because I knew Mahomes was gonna
• 35:15
  Speaker 1: get brought up, because that seems to be the go
• 35:17
  Speaker 1: to right now. You just think of because you know,
• 35:20
  Speaker 1: people kind of played it off like we've never seen
• 35:22
  Speaker 1: anybody throw off platform like this before, and he kind
• 35:25
  Speaker 1: of looks like he's sand lotting it out there, free
• 35:28
  Speaker 1: lancing it even though he isn't, which is one of
• 35:31
  Speaker 1: the excellent parts about Patrick Mahomes that people don't bring
• 35:34
  Speaker 1: up enough. But but I thought of Michael Vick too.
• 35:38
  Speaker 1: I was trying to think. I mean, I guess you
• 35:40
  Speaker 1: could go the tall route and try to come up
• 35:43
  Speaker 1: with you Josh Allen or somebody.
• 35:45
  Speaker 3: Like Lamar Jackson's That's the first name that came to
• 35:48
  Speaker 3: my mind. I was like, wait a second, who was
• 35:49
  Speaker 3: Lamar Jackson before Lamar Jackson?
• 35:50
  Speaker 1: But Michael Vick was arguably the fastest player in the
• 35:55
  Speaker 1: league playing quarterback, and Lamar Jackson had all sorts of
• 35:59
  Speaker 1: questions about his arm strength and his passing abilities, which
• 36:02
  Speaker 1: he's disproven. But Michael Vick was thought of as the
• 36:06
  Speaker 1: quickest release, like he had the quarterback skills and the
• 36:10
  Speaker 1: running abilities of a running back. Like I kind of
• 36:14
  Speaker 1: think it was Michael Vick. Yeah, yeah, and like he
• 36:16
  Speaker 1: was watch good. That's a good point. Let's go. I
• 36:20
  Speaker 1: swear to god, we did not discuss this whatsoever. I
• 36:23
  Speaker 1: didn't even know what OPQ stood for, to be like, yeah,
• 36:26
  Speaker 1: other people's quarterbacks talking about other people's quarterback we're talking
• 36:28
  Speaker 1: about because we do like the gossip. It's true, we.
• 36:32
  Speaker 2: Do like to get in other people's business.
• 36:34
  Speaker 3: Yeah, yeah, so you thought Lamar Jackson and Travis I
• 36:37
  Speaker 3: mean that was what came to mind. Maybe like Cam Newton,
• 36:41
  Speaker 3: that's a good one. That's a good one. But Jalen
• 36:45
  Speaker 3: Hurts too maybe maybe, and Cam.
• 36:47
  Speaker 1: Newton was hyped up. Yeah, and it's got to be
• 36:50
  Speaker 1: just pure hype. I mean, Michael Vick never lived. I mean,
• 36:52
  Speaker 1: I think he was MVP consideration for a little while.
• 36:55
  Speaker 1: But it looks like Wymbyelma's on a far better trajectory.
• 36:59
  Speaker 1: But in terms of just when we first started to
• 37:02
  Speaker 1: get to know the player, like it had to be
• 37:05
  Speaker 1: somebody with freakish ability. So a quarterback who might have
• 37:08
  Speaker 1: been the fastest player in the NFL and also could
• 37:11
  Speaker 1: throw the football, right, I mean that that's who I
• 37:14
  Speaker 1: went to as well this morning. Another thing, just one
• 37:17
  Speaker 1: other quick thing, and this could be very interesting, I don't.
• 37:21
  Speaker 1: I mean, I asked Rick new Isil last week, like,
• 37:24
  Speaker 1: why did Trinidad Chambliss? Why is he so desperate to
• 37:27
  Speaker 1: stay in college when it was a down year in
• 37:30
  Speaker 1: the NFL draft and yet he's gone to court for
• 37:33
  Speaker 1: a year and a half trying to stay at college.
• 37:35
  Speaker 1: And Rick new Husl is like, you idiot, seven million
• 37:38
  Speaker 1: reasons for that Oh, yeah, he's being paid a lot
• 37:41
  Speaker 1: of money. Well, Brendan Soresby's about ready to possibly lose
• 37:45
  Speaker 1: his Texas Tech millions, and he is the quarterback he
• 37:50
  Speaker 1: transferred from Cincinnati to Texas Tech. And yet he might
• 37:55
  Speaker 1: be in the conversation for number one pick overall in
• 37:59
  Speaker 1: the upcoming draft, and yet he has a gambling allegation
• 38:03
  Speaker 1: against him, and so he's been kicked out of college football.
• 38:06
  Speaker 1: So he is now petitioned to get back into the
• 38:09
  Speaker 1: college game when he could go to the supplemental draft. Now,
• 38:14
  Speaker 1: they don't conduct the supplemental draft every offseason in the
• 38:17
  Speaker 1: NFL because there's usually not a player that has the
• 38:21
  Speaker 1: circumstances that lends itself to being supplementally drafted, right, but
• 38:27
  Speaker 1: he would qualify under this, and it will be very
• 38:31
  Speaker 1: that will be a very interesting story. Schefter went his
• 38:34
  Speaker 1: far just heard him this morning saying this could be
• 38:35
  Speaker 1: the most interesting story for the next six weeks that
• 38:40
  Speaker 1: if Soresby is denied by college football, would he enter
• 38:45
  Speaker 1: himself into the supplemental draft? And then how would teams
• 38:48
  Speaker 1: go about this because you do have the gambling allegation.
• 38:53
  Speaker 1: Not minor next year is supposed to be like a
• 38:56
  Speaker 1: draft filled with quarterback prospects. So if you're at the
• 38:59
  Speaker 1: top of the draft list, you're not gonna you're gonna
• 39:03
  Speaker 1: wait the year to see You're not gonna take Soresby,
• 39:07
  Speaker 1: So he could be taken by it like a playoff
• 39:11
  Speaker 1: team with a veteran quarterback. They're like, I don't know
• 39:14
  Speaker 1: if we're gonna have another shot at somebody. Potentially this
• 39:17
  Speaker 1: good dealers maybe, but now they've got.
• 39:21
  Speaker 3: Five quarterback yes, do they really have one? When you
• 39:24
  Speaker 3: have five quarterbacks, Chuck, you don't have one. That's just
• 39:27
  Speaker 3: what I was told.
• 39:28
  Speaker 1: See the Cleveland Brown I was thinking, Tampa Bay mate,
• 39:34
  Speaker 1: Yeah that yeah, Baker Mayfield. I don't know if they're
• 39:38
  Speaker 1: a thousand percent convinced that maybe he would go there,
• 39:42
  Speaker 1: but it could make for a very interesting story. I mean,
• 39:45
  Speaker 1: I guess even the Seahawks would have to consider it.
• 39:47
  Speaker 1: If you're planning on winning a super Bowl or coming
• 39:51
  Speaker 1: close to winning a Super Bowl, you're planning on having
• 39:53
  Speaker 1: a late first round pick this year, when would you
• 39:56
  Speaker 1: have a shot at a potential number one over pick.
• 40:00
  Speaker 1: When is that going to happen? Would you just in
• 40:03
  Speaker 1: case things don't work out? Sam Darnold contractually a year
• 40:07
  Speaker 1: and a half from now. I don't know, but anyway,
• 40:11
  Speaker 1: it will make for a very interesting story if the
• 40:14
  Speaker 1: college football world denies him reentry. And we'll see, but
• 40:19
  Speaker 1: we could have an interesting supplemental draft here in the
• 40:22
  Speaker 1: next few weeks. All right, Coming up next, we've got
• 40:24
  Speaker 1: your cash contest word plus Colt Emerson. What's this future
• 40:28
  Speaker 1: when Donovan is healthy? How do all the pieces fit?
• 40:31
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