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  is here and pg Ran gonna get a hoodie so he'll show up one of
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  these days. Gentlemen, we got a commitment baby maybe Joys. We gotta
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  dive into that. So we're gonna talk about that. We're gonna talk about
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  some future casts that came through. We're also gonna talk about some potential other
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  players that we're looking at. And yeah, there's a big SEC party coming
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  out in about a week. So Coop, how you feeling? Chris?
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  Tell the people where you're from and where to find you, and then we'll
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  wrap up with PG doing the same. So Coop lead the way. Feeling
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  great, feeling good. I'm having some trouble with the typing, but otherwise
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  than that, looking good. That's what I'm talking about. That's what I'm
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  talking about. I was just gonna jump in here and say, horse Doown
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  podcast. You already know where I'm at. You already know it's about to
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  be a lot of you know, Texas fans feeling really down because you know
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  season about to start. So off season chatters over with, so you can
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  find me horse Down Podcasts. Yeah you Twitter all that go ahead. Hey,
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  that's season starts on July seventeenth, right, Oh, can find me
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  on YouTube at the PG show. Y'all know where I'm at. Y'all started
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  playing with these people, man, But yeah, no, man, it's
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  good to see all of y'all. It's We've got a lot of fun things
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  to talk about, mainly because we had the big weekend, champ U Barbecue
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  weekend. You saw the social media posts. What's good? Everybody gotta say
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  hi in the chat. Y'all saw the big posts. Y'all saw everybody's excitement.
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  It appears that a lot of stuff has gone down this weekend. Of
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  course, the first and foremost will lead off with this Emanuel Choice Many Choice
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  committed Lancaster, Texas Wide receiver six four. Then we've got a few future
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  cast and crystal balls and predictions that came down the line, and then we've
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  got a couple of far fetch opportunities. So this dive into the most it's
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  important thing here. Many Choice Many Choice is part of the twenty five class
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  that gives us four wide receivers in his class, Grace and Harris, you
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  got Marcus Harris, Elijah Thomas, and now Many Choice PG lead it off
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  with you. How'd you feel about seeing that commitment. I know we both
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  dropped their videos and all, but what jumped out to you about them winning
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  Many Choice of services. Well, it's about time that we get this announcement.
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  I think we've been chasing this recruitment for two and a half three months
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  now. He didn't take very many visits a lot of places. I think
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  he only took like three or four visits to Oklahoma, and I think the
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  next closest TCU at two. So this wasn't a guy that went around the
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  ringer and saw a bunch of schools. But Emma Jones lined it out perfectly
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  in his tweet earlier talking about you know, hey, like, remember who
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  offered you first, Remember who believed in you first? And that was Oklahoma.
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  So going four wide receivers now potentially five in this class, that intrigues
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  me a ton. So yeah, I'm excited about this one six or four
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  adding a little bit more size. I think some of your other wide receivers
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  from the last class that were that tall where carry on Kurdi, So you've
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  you've got some size in that room. Yeah. He kind of reminds me
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  heavily of Nick Anderson in the way of three Star. Didn't do a lot
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  of visits, not moan by very many, and then all of a sudden
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  he jumps out on the scene right That to me was huge, And yes,
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  Hank, you know me, we need to give ej a raise because
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  it seems that he's been able to figure this process out extremely fast. Yeah,
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  we lost Chris, not sure where he ran off to, but he'll
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  probably be back in just a minute, probably adjusting some things. But Coop,
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  seeing the many choice pickup, how you feeling on it? You love
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  size. When you start seeing Nick six doing the deal that he does,
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  you get, uh, you know, Jaden Gibson who once again is about
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  to about to have himself a nice little year. You know, it's you
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  got a you're putting together different body types and different body sizes, and we
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  sell that as a Sooner fans just over the past couple of years going up
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  against uh, you know, guys and just random different schools and they're six
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  four sixty three just going up over smaller defensive backs. So you know,
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  when you can throw it out a decent amount of variety in your receiver sizes,
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  I mean we win. Right. That's that's that's that's what you want
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  to do. You've got the burners coming in, You've got the the you
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  know, the kind of the Tweeners, guys like Elijah Thomas, you got
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  the Harris kids, and you know, uh, it's you you. You
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  throw in that size and that jump ball drill in that red zone is is
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  going to be It's gonna be a fun thing to watch here coming up.
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  One hundred percent agree with you there. I think having having like another Nick
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  Anderson's gonna be fun. Someone that's gonna be hungry too. I love that
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  he talked about how his first his first offer was Emmit Jones, and then
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  Emmit Jones tweeted out about him. You know, you should always, you
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  know, appreciate that first off, for the first person to actually believe in
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  you. Blah blah blah. He gave you all of that. And then
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  Colin Kennedy over there as as soon as Illustrated posted the quote from Manny talking
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  about how ej was his first offer. Can't beat that, man, Chris.
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  I know you know a little bit about him. You was pretty excited
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  about him in the recruiting trail. How are you feeling about this many choice
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  pickup? You know, watching his highlights now, I definitely would say this.
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  He is a mister do it all type of guy. I mean,
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  the guy is taking snaps out of the backfield. I mean he is a
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  catching it all over the place. To be honest with you, before we
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  got on here, Coop said Dwayne Jared, And I can see that because
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  he's gonna play for Emmitt Jones possibly blossoming into a really good wide receiver.
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  Right. Thank god that he's playing in this era of swit and ball,
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  or he would be Mikey Henderson. But with them, I think I don't
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  think that that's a bad comp for him as well. I don't think that
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  I'm not necessarily sure. I'm kind of like the measurables. If he's a
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  burner, it doesn't necessarily look like that. Looks like he's just another solid
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  guy that gets it done and probably, honestly, let's be real, in
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  a smitty program and under Emmitt Jones. You know, I don't think that
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  that, you know, Nick Anderson has a world blazing speed, but I
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  do think that he's a great wide receiver and he has the chance to be
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  elite this year. Right, So at the end of the day, it's
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  gonna be really interesting to see how this kid fits in. But looking at
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  his film, he looks like a mister do with all, a guy that
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  can get it done wherever, and you could put him there, and you
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  need guys like that. You don't need a burner out there on the field
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  every single player or whatever, because I mean, let's let's think about it.
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  Ceedee Lamb has great speed, like great game speed, right, but
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  he's a he's a gamer. He's just a solid player all around. Where
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  you can get him on a jet squeak. You can get him on the
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  bubble screen, you can get that, and he can make something out of
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  nothing. So this care here looks like what Venables wants to recruit anyways,
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  which is what a football player at the end of the day. Yeah,
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  and on that's what's interesting. You say that him being a gamer, Right,
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  when I look at this class, I honestly feel like Elijah Thomas is
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  the gamer gamer of this one. Like he's the one that's just high an
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  elite, and he's gonna be the one that's gonna walk in and be more
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  of your CD lamb. I see Manny being the one going out there and
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  just catching deep touchdowns. Yeah, I could see that as well. You
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  know what I'm saying, kind of like Nick six was right, He's just
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  coming out of nowhere, cant certain passes and go. Do I see a
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  thousand yards out of him? No, five hundred. I could totally see
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  out of him. I think Elijah's more of your thoughts in yard receiver.
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  I think that both Harris's can get you about seven fifty. What is the
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  a ceiling? Ceiling is pretty I don't know what his ceiling could be,
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  right, what was his floor at the very least could be what Lee Norris
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  trying to think of who Josh gave him a camp of I think I saw
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  it on school, but I can't remember off the top of my head.
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  I gotta go look that up. Marcel Ateman eight man. That was Shoot,
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  that's a really good time. Actually, yeah, that's really if you
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  go through and you watch this film, he just has solid you know.
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  He he gets the ball and he turns and goes and like you just watch
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  every single, every single bit of it. You know, I do want
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  to see a little bit more with the catching of the hands. Uh he
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  lets the ball get a little bit too close at times, but yeah,
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  I mean it's you see him take off Lee Morris. So I mean all
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  that dude did was to catch shutdowns too. So I mean that that ain't
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  bad either. And he looks like he could be a reds on target with
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  carry on as well. I mean, and that's what you're really stacking with
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  that different you know, you you got the Raggings of the world, kJ
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  Daniels of the world. You know who my uncle always compare. He says,
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  Hey, we got to Hollywood's on campus and people are not talking about
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  it, and he's like, you put those guys out there on the slot
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  and make those guys just work everybody else, and then you got guys like
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  carry On. Kearney is the same way, and he has the same a
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  similar build as as Keernie as well. I mean, you got guys over
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  there that are gonna be freshman this year, and you're just really just stacking
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  these classes. So I'm really really excited what they've done for these next two
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  classes, especially kind of bouncing back from which I call it a bounce back,
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  getting up, you know, getting hair. It's this uh uh this
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  in this class is twenty five class as well when you lost out on Nickings,
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  right, So you know, I mean I really like what they're doing.
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  I just think that that you got to put it on the field because
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  Emma Jones is Emmit Jones. But I think once Latrail adds that that extra
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  element to it, that per se with the offense, just booming is gonna
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  get messy out here in these wide receiver streets. Yeah, man and and
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  Steven asked this question, which is an interesting one. You know, talked
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  about it in the video, but this is a very good one for those
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  that haven't seen the commitment video. I'll put out or you want PG put
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  out, is why is EJ taking so many wide receivers? Because this is
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  four wide receivers and there's a possibility for fifth. Right, we'll talk about
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  crystal balls in a minute. But Cortez Mills has got a crystal ball and
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  a prediction to Oklahoma. But why are we taking so many wide receivers.
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  There's expectation for exodus of players, and this is my thought processing. Y'all
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  tell me I'm crazy. Right, this year, you've got d m Birds
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  who's gone. He's gone after this season. There's no way that he'll be
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  back next the season, next season, but coming up, Dion Burks will
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  be gone. If Nick Anderson has another season like this past one, which
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  I think he's gonna be up, he's gone. For Rook's gonna graduate,
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  he's gone. And if things work out well, there's a chance that either
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  Jaye Gibson or Andro Anthony could potentially be draft bound because and I think that
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  it'll be base upon if they hit their ceiling like cap wise, as far
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  as the draft, not saying that they won't get drafted or say that they're
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  stuck it. There's probably a certain level where everyone believes that, hey,
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  you're probably no more than a third, fourth, fifth rounder, and this
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  is probably where you're gonna land no matter what. You probably should go now
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  because it's your stock's not gonna go up any higher. Right, So there's
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  a chance four dudes could be gone after this year. So you bring in
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  five, you still got young peedaway, right, and then you got all
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  the young wide receivers behind that with you know, the two zions, as
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  you mentioned, Chris, that's my thought, PG, what are you thinking
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  about that? No, I mean, I simply agree with you on that
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  that that makes total sense that you could have three to four wide receiver exits.
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  I do wonder, though, how high Jaden Gibson's draft stock is going
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  to be at the end of the year, and then is it enough for
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  him to actually want to leave, right? And that's why I kind of
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  wonder about the cat, right cause they're gonna tell you say, hey,
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  you're probably no more than a third Day three guy. Yeah, and then
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  I'm sorry Round three or a day two guy, you know, more than
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  a Day three guy. I'm sensing it that's probably what he'll hit. He
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  may end up hearing he's Day three and then he just needs to show out
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  and move himself up. Yeah, And I think the other X factor two
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  is what happens with Andrel Anthony like this, his injury set him out long
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  enough to where he can't play and work himself into contention for getting to the
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  NFL this year, or you know, is he able to play early enough
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  to make the NFL scout see him again put enough on filmed to you know,
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  potentially make himself that first round wide receiver that we kind of thought he
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  could be last year. That's a good question, that's a good point.
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  Cool, and you also got Hester. Hester's going to be bouncing too,
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  and though and you've got to have people in that room. But the NFL,
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  I mean, you look at what's going on with wide receivers right now.
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  People are willing to draft more and more and more wide receivers because you
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  know, you're not doing it with running backs. You got to have guys
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  out there you can scheme up against one one good wide receiver. But you
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  look at programs that in the NFL who have one good dude and a bunch
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  of just names like you know the Cardinals had with uh, you know,
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  with with Kyla the past couple of years, you're going to have more.
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  So I mean, yeah, now Anthony, you know if he comes back
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  this year, that's that's that's the thing is is that rehab. And the
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  last thing that I had heard is that he wasn't looking positive. It was
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  looking more like maybe we just don't rush this thing. So but yeah,
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  you want to keep it going because you know, this is the time.
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  You know, with the transfer portal, you've got Jaques Pedaway, who is
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  guy who's playing already somewhere else and he is being patient, he's being a
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  team guy, and he is sitting in there and he is waiting his turn,
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  and when he gets his opportunities, we want to see what he can
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  do. So this with this room, this well, I mean, when
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  you get on the field, you better do it because if you if you
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  get your number called, and I don't care if it's a jump ball or
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  jet sweep, you gotta make your you gotta make your stamp to piggyback off
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  of that. And maybe this is just wrap this this point up, but
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  uh, I think the biggest thing is that we all, as Sooner fans
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  need to embrace this new era of sooner football, sooner recruiting. It's hard.
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  I walked out of my house telling my uncle, Hey, man like,
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  maybe we shouldn't get a Koyer, Maybe we shouldn't get in there.
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  He's maybe we should We didn't get all these guys because you're not used to
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  that. We're not. It's been a while since we've been under Bob to
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  the point where that was the normalcy around here. People forget a lot of
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  the stuff. You know. Obviously it's recency bias, and deservingly so.
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  But the Georgia's, the Bamas and all of them of the world. When
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  they were down, we were up. We've been down a little bit.
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  We won a lot, but we've been down a little bit. But at
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  the end of the day, that was the normalcy around here. That was
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  the routine thing around here. You had players at you were three four deep
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  at every position around here at OU, and you were able to look around
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  and say, Hey, that kid next year is gonna be hell. That
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  kid there next year is gonna be hell. He's redshirt and this and that.
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  We're getting back to that era. And the whole thing is is that
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  we're scared simply because we're not used to that, and we're not used to
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  that. We've been unseasoned for that, right. And then also the fact
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  of the matter is nil plays heavy into that as well. So it scares
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  a lot of people. But people we're getting back to to sooner football and
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  sooner recruiting how it's supposed to be done. So the fact that you're being
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  able to stack these players or whatever, don't be scared of people are gonna
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  leave. People leave Bama and Bama, Georgia, all those schools right there.
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  That is how you recruit ANNCC. You gotta stack talent to stack talent,
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  and if that talent is going elsewhere, that's fine because you're gonna keep
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  recruiting the same type of kids and getting those type of kids. So I
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  think we just need to kind of rewire our brains to understand that. No,
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  that's a fair point. It's hard to realize just how good you are
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  in the moment, right. It's always a hindsight thing. You look back
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  on it be like, man, we had this, and like oh man,
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  I wish we would have had that, etceter so on and so forth,
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  and so it's hard to appreciate it until you actually step back into it
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  and see what it looks like. So yeah, so we got it.
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  Sounds like a lot of excitement around future cast and predictions and everything before we
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  way, and gifted y'all see that that ed share we got a future cast
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  for Did y'all hear that news? Max Granville player? I told y'all that
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  I felt like was one hundred percent a must have player. He didn't got
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  a whole bunch of predictions toward us now. Shout out to Josh my question
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  over there at on three. He has had his end forever since like what
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  November? He ain't bucked one time. Colin Kennedy's been on it since January.
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  Shout out to him. But sounds like we're legitimately in on this player.
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  Cool. What does it feel like getting somebody of that stance? I
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  mean, he his you know when when you're when you're an edge guy,
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  the motor is the motor is everything. And if you have to describe Max
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  Granville PG, would you say, motor is probably one of the first things
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  that that that you bring up for Grandville. The guy, what's the guy
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  just he just he won't quit, can't stop, won't stop. And so
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  listen, everybody has wanted Max, everybody wanted Grandville, and the Sooners have
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  been there for so long and just kept in with him and kept in with
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  him and Grandville and that that effort and not pivoting off and you know,
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  whether it's Ali Venables, Chavus Baits, everybody going in and having the conversations
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  with him. You know, we knew this weekend was very, very big
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  to go ahead and solidify and do more than just talk about program, but
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  really put the put some of these players, these key visits into the mindset
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  of seeing themselves as a Sooner sitting down and going over film with the coaches
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  that you know how he's going to do when he arrives on campus, seeing
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  that with Schmitty and seeing some of the notes on Schmidty. Schmidty ain't playing
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  around this summer. He's he's kicking folks out of practice. He's telling them
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  come back later, you got to start over. I don't see the effort.
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  I don't see that there because this is a time to where you start
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  seeing some of that success and you say, you know, guys, you
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  like the ten wins. I love it. I'm so happy that we got
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  ten wins. We ain't there yet. We got to keep pressing. And
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  so Grandville is I mean, he is that guy and this has got high
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  football IQ and he's got some speed to burn too, And I really,
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  I really just this is this is one that makes me smile. And so
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  when we see this uh Chichin come through it is it is going to be
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  glorious. Yeah, I'm probably going to lose one. Chris, what you
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  think about this one? I know you were on Grandville early Greville. What
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  you gonna say. Look, all I'm going to say is this right here,
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  he's a great looking athlete, great looking athlete he looks. I mean,
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  that's the bill. Yeah, that's the bill, you know. And
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  if I may just kind of jump into that twenty seven class, Zach Rowe
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  has that build as well. Zane. Yeah, it's just like, you
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  know, I'm starting to try to look at it from a different perspective.
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  When you see those kids. The first thing we're looking for is though,
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  those limber athletes that are just walking out there and if it's hard to really
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  distinguish the two and try to get away from that. But as we enter
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  more and more of this BV era, we are getting to just where we
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  can talk simply about oh you because we have the material, right but very
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  cleansing, like very Clemson like right here, this is a guy that you
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  could see. I mean, his body type is where, you know,
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  whatever he wants to play when he gets there, I think he could do
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  what he needs to do. And they're going out there, Like I said,
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  he just looks like a freak athlete. Honestly, he looks like he
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  looks really limber, looks really I mean, I'm just saying technique wise,
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  all the rest of this stuff, Like I've watched something like you know,
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  I've went through the list watch some of these kids, and I was really
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  impressed with this guy, and I was just like, Man, if we
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  can land a kid like that right there, that's those building blocks, those
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  are those depth pieces right there right away that could really help, especially what
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  we're trying to do. I think that if we can get Stony Jaydon Jackson,
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  guys like that would really turn that corner. Grayson Haughton as well,
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  those young guys too, to where it makes that transition easier. I think
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  that you will be able to see some freshmen come in that following year and
• 22:55
  be able to actually contribute because they're going to make it so much easier.
• 22:57
  They're going to make life so much easier because all the double teams and all
• 23:00
  the rest of that. But that's a kid, another kid, and I
• 23:03
  mean these these Texas Texas has started. It's just funny to me because years
• 23:10
  ago I heard that OU was broken. I heard that because Nil was going
• 23:14
  to the doors of Texas were going to close on the home outside of Texas.
• 23:18
  But it just didn't happen, and it's not gonna happen. But no,
• 23:23
  this this is a kid right here where you say, hey, he
• 23:26
  Baits and Venables get that kid at Clemson and you don't usually see a kid
• 23:30
  like that coming on campus here, right Yeah, No, I agree with
• 23:34
  you there. And that's what I like the most is that we're really looking
• 23:37
  more and more like the Clemson recruiting right early years like and I say that
• 23:44
  specifically because I say, Stone's your stone was definitely your prize jewel. He's
• 23:48
  the one that was the high rate guy, the five star guy that everybody
• 23:52
  you know wants BV and staff to get. He's the one that kind of
• 23:56
  helps show what the staff is doing. And Jane Jackson is gonna be the
• 24:02
  sleeper that comes in and bes what your shack beared, guy that you know
• 24:06
  that was very low rated and comes in and boom, goes out there and
• 24:11
  gets themself drafted high. That's that's what we're getting it. We're into the
• 24:17
  We're into that place where Oklahoma's looking like what Clemson was back then. I've
• 24:22
  said this in the past before, and it's funny because R. J.
• 24:25
  Young is said it too. I thought was funny. Is that what Clemson
• 24:30
  became is what Oklahoma should have been, right, That's what we should have
• 24:33
  been at that time. The way that they with venables there at the defensive
• 24:37
  guy and really honing in and making changes, that's who we should have been.
• 24:42
  Good thing is now we're starting to shape ourselves in that way. We're
• 24:45
  bringing back the Oklahoma standard. And I think BV is gonna get us in
• 24:48
  the night spot PG looking at Grandville, getting excited about Grandville? How do
• 24:52
  you feel about that now? So kind of piggybacking to Coop's point at the
• 24:59
  beginning, Granville is just explosive and this is a and this might be one
• 25:03
  of the better defensive end prospects in this class. Uh. But I kind
• 25:08
  of jumped off this bandwagon early. I think you and I. You and
• 25:11
  I were talking about this earlier, earlier in the year, I was high
• 25:14
  on it, and then probably about April, you started to hear a lot
• 25:18
  of buzz around A and M and Penn State, and it felt like at
• 25:22
  that time Oklahoma and Grandville were kind of moving off of each other, and
• 25:27
  to the point of I think we were asking questions leading up to the Champion
• 25:30
  Barbecue if this visit was going to happen, mainly because you started to hear
• 25:34
  some momentum with or Roguebo. We have the presumed silent commitment from Cade Petchak,
• 25:42
  and I think there was just this thing of Okay, maybe, oh
• 25:45
  he's going different. So it's just shocked me that this weekend went so well
• 25:48
  for him, and I don't think we're going to see this recruitment probably drag
• 25:52
  on too much longer for him. Crossing my fingers, man, I'm hoping
• 25:59
  that he go ahead this bad boy out before August. Just go ahead and
• 26:03
  just make it happen big time then, because you'd get it over Texas A
• 26:07
  and M, because Texas A and M wants him real bad, whether they're
• 26:10
  in the running or not. And uh, Penn State, who I mean
• 26:14
  they recruit high on the defensive side of the ball. Yes, they really
• 26:18
  do, which is real too. Yeah, I mean age wise, Like
• 26:22
  it's funny because the Will Fong article talked about max Imma passed to you,
• 26:26
  Chris in a second, because I know you had a thought Grandville. The
• 26:33
  article Grandville was talking about the scheme at Penn State. And when I read
• 26:37
  what will Fong was writing on there about his dad was dad was saying.
• 26:41
  I was like, oh, yeah, I see that. I mean,
• 26:42
  Penn State's infamous forgetting I mean they considered linebacker, you right. They put
• 26:47
  out some elite linebacker play all the time, you know, even going from
• 26:52
  Parsons which is the most recent one, all the way back into LeVar Arrington.
• 26:55
  They put out dudes that potentially can hit you know, hall of Fame
• 26:59
  status, and then edge wise they move him back and forth. Yeah,
• 27:02
  scheme makes sense. The best part about Grandville for me here is he feels
• 27:07
  like because of how good of an athlete he is. He runs track as
• 27:11
  well, he does hurdles. He could be a at its size as Isaiah
• 27:15
  Simmons for us. Right, he's not six or five, but he could
• 27:17
  be a Simmons that moves around that cheatah role, the one that just plays
• 27:22
  every other position, Like, right, you don't have only a cheetah.
• 27:25
  Throw him at linebacker, you move him back into safety and just let him
• 27:27
  roam. Just let him go out there and attack NonStop. That to me
• 27:30
  could be huge about I expect him to be an edge. You'll be your
• 27:34
  Will Anderson for Oklahoma hopefully, and he just terrorises people. Go ahead,
• 27:38
  and I would say more that I think that if we get the idea of
• 27:44
  putting him kind of at that cheetah roll or whatever, you kind of get
• 27:48
  the same as kind of the same result as you got with the son m
• 27:52
  color, Like, Hey, I think we should probably put this guy closer
• 27:56
  to the ball because he's a freak, you know, closer to the ball.
• 27:59
  Right, But I was just gonna ask, what what do you guys
• 28:02
  comp for him? Maybe Isaiah Simmons right there, but what is your guys
• 28:06
  compor for this guy for Grandville. M h. I'll let you guys go
• 28:12
  because somebody asked me this question and I had a little debate, and I'm
• 28:18
  gonna be honest, but that's a tough one. It is. Oh.
• 28:23
  I don't think you can comp him close to a linebacker. I don't think
• 28:26
  he could be comp a linebacker or cheetah. I think he has to be
• 28:30
  comped similar to somebody on the defensive end. Obo. Oh oh oh no,
• 28:37
  I broke my elbow that guy. Mean he looks like a thickerbrow and
• 28:48
  I feel like he's doing okay in the NFL currently, and you know he
• 28:52
  is. He is just a he's got a little bit more of that hand
• 28:56
  down look to him. But I mean, like you said, this is
• 29:00
  a cat, you know with the saw McCulla. He is. He's just
• 29:03
  big, lean and long, and I mean he's going to be a guy
• 29:07
  that's always going to be struggling for more weight. Whereas I think that I
• 29:12
  think that Granville is a guy that has his good muscle and his as his
• 29:18
  I mean as he I mean this is he's still he's a big dude,
• 29:21
  but I mean as he becomes and gets that grown man's strength. This is
• 29:25
  a guy who I mean, he is going to have himself. He's got
• 29:27
  strong he's going to get stronger with his hands, and he's going to get
• 29:30
  stronger in the base And just speaking with another offensive line recruit this weekend,
• 29:40
  these guys are just so jack to work against what's going out there. And
• 29:45
  you know coach Dent is in the house, but these young offensive linemen going
• 29:49
  against these young defensive linemen, guys who don't get to play this year are
• 29:53
  still getting better and they are just getting stronger. And it's that iron sharpens
• 29:57
  iron mentality And I mean, you got I think the question was uh was
• 30:03
  talking about you know, in twenty twenty seven projecting out a koya at like
• 30:07
  a first round draft pick. And these guys are are are getting in,
• 30:11
  they're getting nasty, and they're getting better because you have to. You cannot
• 30:15
  stay on the field in practice if you're not getting better, much less getting
• 30:19
  out there in game time. So that that's uh, that's where you know,
• 30:23
  when the season kicks off, you're gonna have a lot of You're gonna
• 30:27
  have a lot of people ready to go out and show out what this team
• 30:30
  has been doing during the summer. But I think he's a little faster Nobo
• 30:38
  could he could he? Okay, So because I'm I'm I'm big on this
• 30:44
  when we start talking about some of these kids, like what are their comps?
• 30:45
  Like, what are their fours? What are their sillings? Is a
• 30:48
  four for this kid? Just just off a simple look and just see I
• 30:52
  could see instant production from the kid. Are we looking at I mean he
• 30:56
  kind of has a similar type, maybe not necessarily the bodyes type of kind
• 31:00
  of just a similar hype, similar type to him to like a Niel Smith
• 31:03
  that we already have on campus. Or are we looking kind of in that
• 31:07
  that Isaiah Thomas type of production? Or I mean it took it took some
• 31:15
  time, and I mean he didn't pop until his junior year and then he
• 31:19
  bawled his senior year. And so I mean you look at guys like in
• 31:23
  the past, like R. J. Washington, you know, another guy
• 31:26
  who took some time to really get the defensive line piece down. So it's
• 31:30
  gonna be it's gonna be up to what Ali and Venables want to do with
• 31:33
  him and where they want to put him. And you know, we we've
• 31:37
  been talking, you know, we talked about basketball with positionless basketball, and
• 31:41
  that's what this defense continues to do. Is You've got guys like Jane Jackson,
• 31:45
  you know who he is. But you got guys like Stone, you
• 31:47
  got guys like Nigel Smith, You've got guys like Boganowski. You've just got
• 31:52
  so many of these guys who you can put them at two, three different
• 31:55
  places and it's it's hard. I mean, that's why they paid seven million
• 32:00
  dollars to be the head coach of the football team and have their razors criticized
• 32:05
  up and down Twitter. Is because they get to make them decisions and they
• 32:08
  have to make those decisions. And you know, when you have guys who
• 32:12
  can do so many different things, they got so many different tools. I
• 32:15
  mean, it just puts a smile on your face because having specialists, you
• 32:20
  know that that may be something. But these guys are gonna be able to
• 32:23
  move around and that is also gonna help them when it comes time to getting
• 32:27
  on the field. And yeah, Taylor him another. I mean, it's
• 32:30
  there's positionless freaks out there, but there's a lot of positionless players and I
• 32:36
  think I like that that's what they go after because you can move them between
• 32:40
  edge and linebacker keep their speed while bulking them up, because I mean,
• 32:44
  I think time is up into two forty almost too fifty range now. So
• 32:49
  he's and he can play linebacker, he can play edge. Grandville. It's
• 32:53
  really hard to figure out a comp for Grandville, just because I think he's
• 33:00
  just so versatile. I don't think we've had anybody as versatile as he is
• 33:05
  on this campus probably in a long time. So I have to go back
• 33:08
  years and look at some of the ness that I got one for you.
• 33:12
  I've got a perfect lump for him, Eric Streker, similar weight, similar
• 33:19
  height, similar explosiveness on that first step. That's not far fetched. I
• 33:28
  didn't. I thought about that toog and yeah, and if you can get
• 33:32
  Shriker type of production out of him, yeah, you'll take that all day
• 33:37
  long. Yeah, you gotta go back and that's what you want. It's
• 33:40
  exactly what you want. Well, Matt case Grandville of course got everybody excited
• 33:45
  in here. I since that. Keep your eyes open on that one.
• 33:50
  Lloyd asked this question PG and I thought this was a great one for us.
• 33:53
  What do we think about it? A J O'Neill, right, he
• 33:57
  put out a top ten the quarterback from twenty six. We're talking about how
• 34:01
  everybody's getting quarterbacks right now, everybody's getting their twenty six quarterbacks. Me and
• 34:07
  PG actually record a video talking about that now too long ago. I think
• 34:10
  he's gonna put that up soon, probably tomorrow. To keep your eyes open
• 34:14
  for that. Go over to the PG show. And so I'm some love,
• 34:15
  but real quick, real simpty, real simple. We'll just simply put
• 34:20
  it here. I think we've got a good chance with all the crystal balls
• 34:23
  coming in for Jade and O'Neil to commit. Not sure, hopefully the commitment
• 34:28
  is soon since everybody else is doing their commitments now. But I'm Correck's and
• 34:32
  he's gonna be on two four to seven on Monday, yes tomorrow. Yep,
• 34:36
  there you go. I'm sensing that we've got a very good chance of
• 34:40
  landing j O'Neil. I think I'm gonna go ahead and just put my own
• 34:45
  brick skit crystal chicken wing on this one. We're gonna go for it PG.
• 34:53
  Yeah, No, I mean this is I think a guy that could
• 34:57
  be Oklahoma's next five star quarterback when it's all said and done, Like that's
• 35:02
  the kind of talent Jade O'Neill is. I mean jay, you were there
• 35:06
  when Jaydon O'Neill walked into the Everest Training Center. The head's turned and I
• 35:13
  mean, yeah, Jade, and O'Neill is just that dude, He really
• 35:16
  is. He really is funny enough. We're talking about Schmidia a minute ago.
• 35:21
  Coach Dent Marcus Dentt shout out to you, my man, appreciate you.
• 35:23
  Pulling up as usual, one of the parents send me a picture of
• 35:27
  what Isaiah looks like. I'm just gonna say, jeez mm hm, hey
• 35:32
  boy, they got thick. Oh yeah, yeah, smiddy cooking, Smidi
• 35:40
  cooking. Just know that he is working the butts off and I love it,
• 35:45
  love it. And uh, last thing on Grandville before we move on.
• 35:51
  Uh, Reggie Power's dad, Big big Reggie Powers is in here,
• 35:54
  Junior. They're pulling up. He said that if Granville wants that thirteen,
• 36:00
  he may have to pay up. He may not get that. I've read
• 36:04
  of RP three's hands is RP three. It's gonna definitely show us how much
• 36:07
  he earned that number. All right, next set of crystal balls and chicken
• 36:15
  wings and all of that stuff that came through from last week. You had
• 36:19
  Cortes meals right, the wide receiver, another wide receiver, which would be
• 36:24
  what's that the fifth one? Yeah? Well I think he said his name
• 36:30
  wrong, did I? Yeah, it's Odell Beckham Junior. Isn't that right?
• 36:42
  I don't. I'm not. I'm not, I'm not. You're not
• 36:44
  off? I mean, I mean six one? Yeah, if you Hey,
• 36:52
  Chris, do you know the CD catch that didn't end up being a
• 36:55
  catch on the sideline? That's like, that's just Tuesday for test. That
• 37:01
  guy, that guy, I mean he high points the ball. I mean
• 37:06
  it, Odell changed. Odell changed a lot for folks, for kids out
• 37:12
  there in the playground, and people been working on it. This guy doesn't
• 37:16
  just work at it. I mean it's part of his repertoire. I'm gonna
• 37:21
  flow. I look, I like the kid a lot. Like the kid
• 37:24
  a lot. I'm not gonna go as far as saying like prime Odell Beckham,
• 37:29
  which we knew was a problem, which we all knew was a problem,
• 37:32
  especially when healthy and in his prime, Odell Beckham problem now problem occasionally,
• 37:38
  but like, yes, problem. I see this kid, honestly,
• 37:43
  and this is still high praise. I know this is gonna be really high
• 37:45
  praise as well. But I see this kid being somebody who could develop into
• 37:51
  kind of a Jamar Chase or Justin Jefferson type. Honestly, like he has
• 37:58
  he has super are wide receiver potential written all over him because when you're watching
• 38:04
  his highlights, all he's doing is just making big, big time plays and
• 38:08
  he's Yeah, he's a guy that you would love to have in your office
• 38:13
  and and be honest with you, we may have a solid comfort him on
• 38:16
  the on the field right now because looking at on the team right now,
• 38:20
  because looking at the plays that he makes and the exciting thing. Now,
• 38:23
  we've only had a small sample size for our view only in the spring game.
• 38:29
  We've seen what he's done at Purdue, but he's kind of like a
• 38:31
  d Burks type where he just makes exciting play after exciting play after exciting play.
• 38:37
  So he's a kid that I would I I'm definitely here as I'm definitely
• 38:42
  hoping that we could we could land because that would be a great addition to
• 38:45
  this class because I think that the combination of many choice in him, or
• 38:51
  you could go or you could go with the Harris kid as well as you
• 38:57
  got at a man of day. Uh, the combination of those who definitely
• 39:00
  makes up for Nickins, that definitely makes up for Nicks, and that push
• 39:06
  pushes you past what you had when Nickos was in that class as well.
• 39:09
  So absolutely, yeah, absolutely you yeah win potential all over him or let
• 39:17
  me drop the last part. He has superstar potential label all over him,
• 39:22
  So I mean he yeah, that kid is real. You're the one,
• 39:27
  and and I don't there's no shade to Jaye Nickins, everything about him being
• 39:31
  six three and as athletic as he is. I watched him hoop, Dude,
• 39:36
  can move. I really love what Cortes Mills and Elijah Thomas brings for
• 39:40
  you as your two kind of edge guys. I mean if you current comps,
• 39:45
  I mean they both can pull up as Andro Anthony type right immediately,
• 39:51
  they both got the capabilities. And you bring in the big many choice,
• 39:53
  who's your Nick Anderson, right, and then you got your two little guys
• 39:59
  with a because Harris is kind of six footish, Marcus is, Grayson is
• 40:04
  shorter, He's more of a baseball slash track dude. This class may man
• 40:08
  Emma Jones needs to go ahead get that raise again. He's doing everything that
• 40:13
  he needs to do to get that raised. And all right, last CB
• 40:15
  that's come through alive has been coming through. Now this one was kind of
• 40:19
  funny to me. Got a crystal ball prediction and a future cast. Then
• 40:29
  it felt like, well, first it was Oklahoma ain't getting this dude.
• 40:32
  He every time someone goes to Oklahoma, he gets all. They get all
• 40:37
  kinds of excited about it, their writers do. Then it was like,
• 40:39
  yeah, he ain't even making a visit here at Kansas State. We're gonna
• 40:44
  go ahead and say Oklahoma's won this one too. Now he decided to visit
• 40:47
  Kansas State, and they really think they got a chance. That's what kp
• 40:51
  check ass the edge out of North Dakota West Fargo to be exact six five
• 41:00
  to forty, adding him with the Grandville and a Smith robo be nasty in
• 41:12
  the class. So you've got Grandville and Pcheck getting both of their their predictions
• 41:17
  coming here. Cool some im Pcheck adding Kim with Grandville. What you think
• 41:22
  I like cold weather football players? I mean you come up from you know,
• 41:27
  you come up from North Dakota, Wyoming, anywhere up there, and
• 41:31
  guys who just want to get in there and do some damage. You know,
• 41:36
  pet Jack is a pet Jack's a guy that's that this you know,
• 41:39
  this is going to be another one of those guys that you went after and
• 41:45
  you you looked at early and so I got lots of smiles, lots of
• 41:51
  smiles PG Petchack the next Ethan Downs. No, but if you go listen
• 41:58
  to Kansas State insiders, they tell you that we're not getting him. Oh
• 42:00
  boy, you remember, They'll get on there and tell you we're not getting
• 42:04
  him all day long. He ain't come to Oklahoma, That's what they say.
• 42:08
  That's kind of that's interesting because recruits, recruits, you can always find
• 42:13
  out where recruit was going based off of the based off of Twitter. Now
• 42:17
  it just in board chats, so you know itself. Yeah and so so
• 42:27
  yeah, I mean pet Jack is another is another guy like, uh,
• 42:30
  you know you just said a second Ethan Downs. He's just gonna come in
• 42:35
  and he's going to put in the work and he's a white Gilmore is another
• 42:37
  one of those types of guys too, you know, from up there in
• 42:39
  the same area. But yeah, nobody wants to say listen, a lot
• 42:45
  of these big twelve teams want I'll have to address the finger here in a
• 42:47
  little bit, but a lot of these it Now I'm sorry, I sent
• 42:53
  a Japanese knife through my finger. So there we go. That's more story
• 42:59
  later. But but yeah, so now, I mean, you got you've
• 43:04
  got an absolute, absolute stud in pet Jack coming in and he is just
• 43:08
  going to He's just going to bring hard work, ethic, and you can't
• 43:13
  you can't turn your nose against that because I mean he is, uh,
• 43:16
  he's going to continue to rise and he's going to continue to be in here
• 43:20
  to uh. And you know, with the defensive line, it's it's still
• 43:23
  all about bodies. When we hit the SEC. You got to have the
• 43:28
  bodies to be coming in here, going in and on that defensive line,
• 43:30
  you can play a little bit more with you know, different types of specialists,
• 43:35
  you know early in their career, like you know, you see a
• 43:37
  Danny Akoye probably this year is going to be you know, you know,
• 43:39
  going to come in on a lot of you know, definitely pass rush at
• 43:43
  you know instances. So somebody, you know, somebody will inevitably get nicked
• 43:47
  up here and there, and you can't you can't be walking out, you
• 43:52
  know, your seventh or eighth guy on the defensive line, not knowing what
• 43:55
  you're getting out of that guy. And as I said earlier, with the
• 43:59
  offensive lineman, the young offensive lineman, the young defensive lineman, it's just
• 44:02
  gonna be Iron Sharper's iron all day long. Agree, that's gonna be the
• 44:07
  key thing going into the SEC. You gotta have those bodies and as it's
• 44:09
  mentioned six deep, you mean, you just gotta have enough bodies to be
• 44:14
  able to handle just the rigor of playing in that conference week after week after
• 44:17
  week, because the bigger guys all go into the SEC. And so for
• 44:22
  us, we sense that that's gonna be something you know, we'll be prepared
• 44:25
  for and I think we'll be able to make something happen. All right,
• 44:31
  Yeah cool, you know you wanna talk about your Japanese finger incident and then
• 44:36
  we can go into this is super super fast. Yeah, cooking dinner,
• 44:40
  having a nice little My wife's birthday is tomorrow, so we did a surprise
• 44:45
  birthday for her, and I brought my mom over outside on the back porch
• 44:49
  doing some steak and have a knife in one hand and I hit the tongs
• 44:54
  on something dropped them, went to grab it and just shove the knife right
• 44:59
  through my finger. Uh, pulled it out. Long story. I mean
• 45:02
  it was shot blood five feet away on the side of my head, up
• 45:07
  on my windows and stuff like that. So yeah, pretty pretty fun stuff.
• 45:12
  And uh man, it's a I've never gone into shock before. And
• 45:16
  the amount of blood that came out of that bad boy. We didn't even
• 45:20
  know that the knife went through until they were cleaning it out, and that's
• 45:23
  when I almost passed out. So that was pretty good stuff. I've broken
• 45:27
  my ankle, I've torn my knee, multiple concussions and but yeah, that's
• 45:32
  that's one to where that was not fun. Oh yeah, thanks for sharing
• 45:40
  that disgusting story with all of us, and of course, you know,
• 45:45
  to for giving us the competitive depth that we got to. Oh yeah,
• 45:50
  competitive depth. I don't know if that had anything to do with my finger
• 45:52
  or not, but yeah, no, that's uh, it was, it
• 45:53
  was. There was some depth there though, right it was like Chris hasn't
• 45:59
  back what is us yet for some reason, but we'll get him back in
• 46:02
  here. There's another question that was asked in here a minute ago, that
• 46:10
  offensive line. Let's talk old lineman, right beg We talked about this O
• 46:21
  line. Men. World is full of surprises, especially this year, because
• 46:28
  this year is literally all about your five stars. This class is huge on
• 46:40
  five stars, and this was the class that we told y'all coming into it
• 46:44
  that this was the one beating boats focused on. Well, you've got Lamar
• 46:47
  Rogers that showed up midweek, Casussi last week, this week, and Drew
• 46:52
  Bay bahlahlah. There's a few people that our ask in the chat, Hey
• 46:58
  guys, what's going on with offensive line recruiting. I'm gonna tell you,
• 47:02
  man, I think Oklahoma's in a very good position with all of them.
• 47:07
  PG lead it off. How you feel, I don't know what to feel.
• 47:12
  I don't know. Like it's because it's offensive line and recruiting, yes,
• 47:19
  and for everybody to understand where I'm coming from. I have been on
• 47:22
  the Fasusi train for as long as anybody, and I'm still on it.
• 47:29
  I've just asked a question, if you land Babylola, do you still land
• 47:34
  Fasusi? And the reason why is because Texas has got a pony up and
• 47:37
  they gotta pay for him, like you can't land. You can't let Oklahoma
• 47:42
  land two five star offensive liman like that. And I don't know. I
• 47:49
  feel like I'm setting myself up for failure by saying they can do that,
• 47:51
  because last year we stood up here and told you Oklahoma's gonna land Williams,
• 47:57
  Win, Airy Dominic, McKinley, and David Stone. One of those was
• 48:00
  true, the other two did not happen, and Oklahoma was in a very
• 48:04
  good spot for all three at one point. Yeah, So I have a
• 48:07
  really hard time trying to talk myself into we're gonna get multiple five stars and
• 48:13
  a potential top one fifty four star when it's all said and done. Like,
• 48:16
  I a really hard time talking myself into that right now. If here's
• 48:21
  my deal, I don't care if it's a Babba Lola or for Susi,
• 48:23
  you land one of the five stars in the Oklahoma fans got to be happy
• 48:28
  you land Roger or Rogers or af A Lava. You're happy right at that
• 48:34
  point, you rounded out with a Sean Hutton Pwall or he should be a
• 48:38
  scholarship guy. But you rounded out with Sean Hutton, And I think you're
• 48:43
  calling it good. But if we want to take more than two and pay
• 48:46
  for more than two, I'll glad they take it. Yeah and chuck,
• 48:53
  Yeah, it's the weirdest and I think I'm in the same boat as PG.
• 48:59
  I'm here. I'm ready to just be heartbroken and let down because I
• 49:02
  truly believe we're in a good position with all three. It's wild to even
• 49:08
  think that, n PG, you're a spot on Financially. Can Oklahoma do
• 49:15
  this? I think Oklahoma can. I think Oklahoma makes the choice of when
• 49:21
  they want to spend, and this class feels like the one they're like,
• 49:24
  Nah, we're gonna go ahead. And but what's that number? Jay?
• 49:30
  Because as I told you, what if the Fasusi number gets up to a
• 49:34
  million or one point five million, Let's just say he gets up to that
• 49:37
  because Fasusi, I think, is a guy that you pay that much for
• 49:40
  out of high school because he is the best left tackle in the country right
• 49:45
  now, and he's a guy that could come in and start for you right
• 49:46
  away. Like I told you, I think Fasusi is a borderline first round
• 49:52
  pick as a high schooler. And so like if you land Babba Loola,
• 49:57
  the price for Fsusi goes up more, and I just have a hard time
• 50:00
  seeing the staff willing to pay that much for a high schooler. I agree,
• 50:06
  it's just part I agree, but I still think we would. I
• 50:09
  think we would do it. I know we're also not talking about Ty Haywood
• 50:14
  because we're finalists. They're in the top three, and Coop go ahead.
• 50:20
  I'll like Coop going and we'll talk about Ty. Wrap things up. I
• 50:23
  will fight you with one hand PG. So I just think it's it's it's
• 50:30
  this way, is you throw that you throw that coin at one person,
• 50:35
  and what does that do in the future. I mean, I do believe.
• 50:38
  I believe that there are guys ever once in a while that come in
• 50:43
  and you go, whatever we can do to get this person. And if
• 50:49
  we all are joking and throwing the jokes for uh, you know, for
• 50:52
  the nil piece, and that Oklahoma's not broke anymore, I can promise you
• 50:58
  when it comes to this class and the offensive lineman the nil game, we
• 51:02
  we are not taking a back seat to anybody within reason. So if that
• 51:07
  number does get up to a one point five million for one of these cats,
• 51:09
  that's something that you just that's a hard swallow because what if a SUSI
• 51:14
  comes in and I'm gonna throw out a legitimate scenario. What if he comes
• 51:17
  in and he gets injured, that money still got to go. It's still
• 51:22
  got to go there. And now you just paid a million and a half
• 51:25
  for injured reserve. And then on top of that, I mean, what
• 51:31
  if the I mean what if the NFL and NCAAA. What if there's a
• 51:35
  rule change in a year and a half and dude can bounce to the NFL
• 51:37
  after one or two years? You know, is that a wise investment?
• 51:42
  From that spot, I still think that the locker room is a big piece.
• 51:45
  But I also know that these guys talk to each other. They've been
• 51:49
  in this game. The players are not unintelligent. These guys know what's happening.
• 51:54
  And I believe that FESUSI, to say FSUSI and NINERI in the same
• 52:00
  voice, we're talking about caliber and potential, not character, because I will
• 52:05
  I will go to bat for Fasusi on character every day of the week.
• 52:08
  I'm not and I know you're not, PG because you know him better than
• 52:13
  anybody on the screen here. But I'm just saying is that's it's a completely
• 52:16
  different scenario. But at the same time, your numbers are tight. The
• 52:22
  numbers game from this point on with Oklahoma is tight. It's never going to
• 52:27
  be an easy conversation recruiting class after recruiting class after recruiting class. So these
• 52:31
  numbers start getting crazy. I don't think it's going to be in the one
• 52:35
  point five million. But as you say, if you're Oklahoma and you pull
• 52:39
  in Hutton, you pull in off a lava, you pull in Rogers and
• 52:49
  help me out, you pull that class in. If you're frustrated at all
• 52:53
  by that class, take a walk, because that's probably the dopest offensive line
• 52:59
  class that we've ever pulled. But Coop, there's a problem with that.
• 53:04
  There's a problem with that scenario. And I've said it multiple times. If
• 53:07
  Oklahoma Land's hutting, which all it takes is a simple scholarship offer, you're
• 53:13
  landing for Susie like you're landing SUSI. If you get hut I know they're
• 53:20
  tight. I don't know. I'm not willing to I'm willing to bet that.
• 53:24
  I'm willing to bet that I will go to Vegas and take that bet
• 53:29
  PG taking aband in Vegas. The deal is. And I don't think the
• 53:35
  numbers matter because Fasussie could come in and play for you like he's a Kayden
• 53:40
  Green. He could come in and play for you right away. Year one.
• 53:44
  He's that good, so you could push somebody else out through the portal.
• 53:47
  That is high praise. PG, that is high praise. That is
• 53:51
  very high. Chris, you gotta go watch Susi's tape. You gotta go
• 53:53
  watch. I get it. But beating Bow, it took. It took
• 53:57
  a while for Green to get out down the field to it took some screw
• 54:00
  ups for some people for I know. But I'm just saying I think I
• 54:04
  know Bill Betanbo sees what everybody else sees, because I'm not the only Bill
• 54:08
  Beingbow's been heavy on Fasusi since day one, so I think he does see
• 54:15
  that too. He's a foid boot card where you look at and say he
• 54:19
  could come in and play on a defensive line for somebody right away. Guys,
• 54:22
  I get it. I just I don't know because we've we've had this
• 54:28
  same type of Caden, the Kaden Greens of the world to where I mean
• 54:32
  you, it shouldn't have took the Texas game for him, and but he
• 54:35
  should have been playing regardless, you know. But at the end of the
• 54:37
  days, it's kind of beating Bow. Look I'm not gonna say where or
• 54:43
  name the store or whatever, but driving around Norman early in the morning,
• 54:49
  you see a certain uh OU coach that coaches offensive line getting some coffee.
• 54:53
  Nobody bothers him. He has a stern look on his face, and I'm
• 54:57
  like, I can't figure this dude out. He's a puzzle, right,
• 55:00
  But no, I'm saying this is that. Look, you know, a
• 55:04
  couple of weeks ago, I was saying, I was told, Hey,
• 55:07
  we're not gonna land off for these big guys. We're not gonna do that.
• 55:13
  But it's fun to talk about. But I don't know from what I
• 55:16
  just heard about some big news coming for Oklahoma. Uh now, guys,
• 55:22
  guys, guys, let me preferce that again. A couple of weeks ago
• 55:25
  I heard that, all right, So I don't know what the word is
• 55:29
  now, but a couple of weeks I heard, Look, the talks are
• 55:32
  heavy with with the four big guns, right that you want. Now you
• 55:37
  see some things start to change. It was kind of a shift into conversation
• 55:40
  as far as uh one kid that uh wink wink, some people are saying
• 55:45
  kind of is leaning towards that Dama Dama crimson tie. Right. So with
• 55:50
  that being said, the whole thing is is that I'm definitely comforted about too
• 55:53
  that I know that we talked about coming on screen. So I'm definitely uhuh
• 56:00
  excited about the two that I feel like, hey, we're definitely gonna get.
• 56:02
  But I mean, I don't know. I just think that right now
• 56:07
  I need Beating Bow to really really go hard get the kids that he needs
• 56:14
  so he can finally shut up all the beating behaters because I trust Beating Ball
• 56:19
  wholeheartedly, and I think he's going to land an amazing god line class coming
• 56:23
  up. I really do. I think he is. I think we're not
• 56:27
  just in the hunt anymore. I think we are. We're leaders on some
• 56:30
  boards and we're in a position to become the leaders and others. So this
• 56:36
  is gonna be a really good I mean again, it's just in that same
• 56:40
  area right now where you're going off of last year of what you just did
• 56:45
  with all those guys Eddie Pierre as you know, Autry, all those guys.
• 56:50
  I mean, you just I mean, it's just another class that you're
• 56:53
  gonna stack talent on and you're gonna tell guys, you know, obviously we
• 56:57
  got some singers that are gonna be now to phase out hopefully goes to the
• 57:00
  NFL graduate whatever the case may be. And then you got some guys on
• 57:05
  that list that, honestly, let's be real, they're probably gonna get processed.
• 57:07
  So yeah, and by the way, Chris, I don't know if
• 57:12
  you've seen Eddie Pierre since he's gotten to Norman, but uh, that man.
• 57:17
  Oh he's lost probably twenty pounds and it looks like he just converted it
• 57:23
  all to muscle. Wow. Yeah, I mean, this is some recruits
• 57:27
  for you how to get excited about. You got Ryan Foge, You've got
• 57:30
  Owen holling back, and then you've got Babolola over here hanging out with Kevin
• 57:36
  Sperry pointing out the defense. That's a big guy. Here's a big set
• 57:40
  of guys. So where did the bill beatingbo haters go? If you land
• 57:45
  for Susi Pabolola, Hutton and Afalava, where do you complaining about twenty six?
• 57:50
  No? No, no, no, no, no, like they
• 57:52
  got sis here right Like, No, it's they're going to turn their attention
• 57:58
  to our tight ends co offensive coordinator, coach. That's where it will go
• 58:04
  next, because everybody's going to need to move on. It was Bates,
• 58:07
  then it was chaevis now it's beating Bow and and we told, we told
• 58:10
  everybody a year ago like the twenty five class on O line was going to
• 58:15
  be it. And and listen, he's already done his work because trust me,
• 58:21
  fo Jay is going to be He is going to be elite. He
• 58:24
  is absolutely going to be elites. Hollen Beck is. He ain't Creed Humphrey,
• 58:29
  but he's going to start getting those comps pretty quickly because yeah, yeah,
• 58:35
  he knows, he knows exactly what he's doing at center. And so
• 58:39
  I mean, listen, I think what's the what's the left tackle? He's
• 58:45
  gonna be a sophomore on Alabama. I don't know if Caden Proctor I put
• 58:51
  for Susie in that Cayden Proctor area Chris is that they are going. I
• 58:55
  mean, he's a dude that gms were making comments. And I don't know
• 59:00
  if coach Jens still on there because I think he knows how to evaluate talent
• 59:04
  too. But I mean, those are those are situations where everybody wants those
• 59:09
  guys. But bean Bow is doing his work. And if you do not
• 59:14
  land for Sussi and you land the other cats, he he might mess around
• 59:19
  and get recruiter of the Year in college football. It's a fair trait.
• 59:22
  It will be a fair trait. If he lands one five star, he
• 59:24
  might get Recruiter of the Year. Yeahs off Lava and Rogers and one five
• 59:32
  star. I mean, Rogers is damn near a five star. But we're
• 59:36
  gonna remember there's a good chance for j Rides this is a five star two.
• 59:42
  Could Oklahoma have two contenders for recruiter of the Year because what if Cortez
• 59:47
  Mills and Elijah Thomas both get five stars and Bill beat and Bow getsjj EJ
• 59:58
  will turn it down because he's already on twenty six, seven, twenty eight,
• 1:00:00
  he said, I got work to do. I'll be back with you
• 1:00:02
  later. I'm decided. You could have that that that that is a realistic
• 1:00:08
  scenario that could happen. Like Elijah Thomas Cortez Mills, they could both be
• 1:00:14
  five stars. Then you could have Bill Beidim over here landing Fasusi Babolola as
• 1:00:20
  five stars, and then getting fo J who is already a four star kid
• 1:00:23
  but is getting talked about as a five star kid. Jay, are we
• 1:00:30
  still I do have one question, and this is kind of a question.
• 1:00:35
  I can save it if you go back to the last page, I mean
• 1:00:38
  to the last picture please, Okay, yeah, meet you, the last
• 1:00:42
  picture of all the big guys running back room. There you go. So
• 1:00:50
  here's the thing, because I didn't get to speak on the the Jaden O'Neill
• 1:00:53
  thing. Are we worried about one thing that? Maybe? I mean one
• 1:00:59
  person that's in this pic sure right here? Not the guy on the left,
• 1:01:01
  not the guy in the middle, not the guy on the right,
• 1:01:04
  but the guy that quarterback at the defense. Are we are we worried about
• 1:01:07
  him being in between Michael Hawkins and Jayden o'mill. Are we still being hunted?
• 1:01:15
  U? Is the Lincoln Raleigh? Is Lincoln Rowley gonna hunt us forever?
• 1:01:19
  With that? As far as that sandwich quarterback? Because I think I
• 1:01:22
  think the world is spare. I think Sperry is a baller. I think
• 1:01:24
  Sperry is gonna be really good. I don't think he's afraid of competition.
• 1:01:30
  But are we are we? I think he's gonna commit to you. I
• 1:01:36
  mean, obviously he's committed to you, but I'm saying I think he's gonna
• 1:01:38
  sign and do all the rest of stuff. Are we a little bit worried
• 1:01:44
  about that because I mean that that's a that's a lot because Michael Hawkins,
• 1:01:49
  who now we all think the world of and we think is next, right,
• 1:01:52
  and then obviously Jaydon O'Neill coming that twenty sixth class is there is there
• 1:01:58
  is it time for us to kind of I have that conversation? Is it's
• 1:02:00
  still too early? Can I can? I can? Yeah, So you're
• 1:02:06
  gonna have Jackson Arnold this year, next year, Hawkins is gonna get it
• 1:02:09
  two years after that, and then after Hawkins it's Jaden O'Neill's show. And
• 1:02:15
  I and I agree with you. Kevin Sperry is a great kid. I
• 1:02:19
  think Kevin Sperry is gonna be a great quarterback, but I don't think he
• 1:02:23
  plays a significant starter role for Oklahoma. Jaden O'Neill is way too talented.
• 1:02:31
  I'm Sperry's on the team at that time. I think Sperry ends up playing
• 1:02:38
  right after Hawkins. I don't know, man, I don't know Jaden O'Neill.
• 1:02:44
  I'm not gonna comp him to Caleb Williams. But if there's anybody that's
• 1:02:50
  as close to Kayleb Williams, Jaden O'Neill might be it with size, like
• 1:02:54
  he's a huge human being. He's got his arm is great. Good thing
• 1:02:58
  with Sperry is Spurry's got a beautiful spin on his past and his accuracy is
• 1:03:02
  ridiculous. Gonna Hanks come in and that's what I'm thinking. That's that's that's
• 1:03:08
  exactly what I'm thinking. Good boy, that's a great point. Hey,
• 1:03:13
  that's a good beer. You're Sammie boy. Here's here's what I think is.
• 1:03:19
  I don't think it. I don't think that if Sperry bounces because of
• 1:03:22
  O'Neill at this point, then he wasn't who we thought he is. So
• 1:03:29
  I think that he comes in and guess what, he's got two to three
• 1:03:32
  He's got two to three years from this point on to work on his craft,
• 1:03:38
  to develop his leadership, and to go after his opportunity. Now,
• 1:03:42
  if he comes in and he goes now and that and I'm just talking Sperry,
• 1:03:45
  if he comes in and he competes and he loses it, I don't
• 1:03:51
  think Oklahoma's in a bad place. And that's that's great. That's yeah,
• 1:03:54
  that's the great thing to have. Because I said, Jaden O'Neil, he
• 1:03:59
  looks like college James Winston. He's got that body type, he's more mobile.
• 1:04:08
  He the leadership though, and how he is what he was doing in
• 1:04:13
  the Ever Center when he shows up already starting to recruit. It's that leadership
• 1:04:18
  piece. I'll give him the CW right there. But with with the body
• 1:04:23
  type and what he looks like. He looks like James Winston. They say,
• 1:04:29
  Jameis Winston, arm Cam Williams or Cam Newton athleticism, which I thought
• 1:04:35
  was interesting. So you're so so, let let me jump in on that
• 1:04:41
  one. And this is no shade, No Cam Newton. Kim was absurd.
• 1:04:51
  I'm just he was absurd, dude. Y'all know he had what one
• 1:04:56
  other NFL player on that entire roster and carried them to the net. Cam
• 1:05:00
  people don't understand the absurdity about the capabilities of Cam Newton. Even better,
• 1:05:05
  actually was gonna make a video on this. I don't know. I may
• 1:05:09
  do it as some off season content as we're still, you know, still
• 1:05:12
  pretty slow. But y'all know Cam was visiting Oklahoma and was looking at Oklahoma
• 1:05:16
  to transfer to back in Juco days right and like like at the last minute,
• 1:05:23
  he canceled his visit. I saw an article from the Oklahoma talking about
• 1:05:27
  him canceling. What do you think that team would have looked like with Cam
• 1:05:30
  Newton instead of Landry Jones? Oh, they would have won because that would
• 1:05:32
  have been the situation. They bring in Cam because Stoops wanted them. You
• 1:05:36
  bring him in. Landry's been there for a bit, so I get where
• 1:05:43
  you're saying on the Sperry piece and where the challenge comes in. It's can
• 1:05:47
  he hold Jaden O'Neill back from taking the position and playing right? Can you
• 1:05:55
  can he hold him back and keep him from taking his job? That is
• 1:06:00
  gonna be It's a tough one. That's one that I can't as mentioned,
• 1:06:04
  Chris, you said it if someone mentioned the comments. He could be the
• 1:06:08
  Sammy Sam Bradford where he's just so accurate and so good. He just goes
• 1:06:11
  out there and just drops dimes non stop. But O'Neill is too. Yeah,
• 1:06:16
  It's like, here's the deal. Like if Kevin Sperry starts and I
• 1:06:21
  hate to do this because we've talked about this with I'm not gonna say it
• 1:06:26
  this for this comp but Kevin Sperry and Jadan O'Neill could literally be another rattler
• 1:06:32
  Williams. Yeah. Now, now, Kevin Sperry will probably be be better
• 1:06:36
  than Rattler in that situation, but Sperry will always have to look over his
• 1:06:41
  shoulder saying if I ever have to come out for any significant period of time,
• 1:06:46
  I will probably lose my job. I just wanted to get ahead of
• 1:06:49
  a ball on that because I feel like that's an uncomfortable topic to talk about
• 1:06:54
  right now, simply because so much can happen, but at the end of
• 1:06:59
  the day, by not doing it here right unfair sports, you know what
• 1:07:01
  I'm saying. So, but that's gonna be something that we all talk about
• 1:07:06
  over the span of this next year and a half, two years or so.
• 1:07:12
  Monititing that situation an awful lot, because I definitely think some some questions
• 1:07:19
  need to be answered, you know, some some some questions about that need
• 1:07:23
  to be answered, and we could end up taking all those quarterbacks and just
• 1:07:29
  having a flat out competition. You know, it could be open competition.
• 1:07:32
  But if the succession takes place before it's an open competition where it just gracefully
• 1:07:40
  goes to you already know your guy's gonna be Michael Hawkins. He's gonna get
• 1:07:44
  the ball. Well, then yeah, you know what I'm saying. So
• 1:07:46
  guys are gonna have to wait their turn? Are they willing to wait their
• 1:07:49
  turn in this era? When you know the it's gonna be such a shift
• 1:07:54
  from year to year right until the n c A figures out some type of
• 1:07:59
  regulation and the best the beauty of going into the SEC, guys is that
• 1:08:03
  has just been mentioned in the comments by a few people. You may have
• 1:08:06
  transfers. Everybody's gonna compete. I love his big rich thank you for pointing
• 1:08:11
  this out. All positions are gonna be compete each year. That's kind of
• 1:08:14
  the game. You're in the SEC now, You've got to make sure that
• 1:08:18
  everyone is competing for every job every single time. Same thing as recruiting your
• 1:08:24
  players and keeping him from hitting the portal the ones you don't want to leave.
• 1:08:27
  You've got to do both. Both sides are gonna be working their butts
• 1:08:30
  off to make sure that we're putting the best product on the field possible and
• 1:08:34
  the best opportunities out there. So yeah, I hate it for him because
• 1:08:40
  I like Sperry a lot. I love his spend when he recruit when he
• 1:08:44
  committed and he's been recruiting, man, I think he's gonna be something.
• 1:08:46
  I think he has an opportunity for it. But when talent walks in and
• 1:08:50
  it's just that good, yeah, you just kind of look at it and
• 1:08:54
  say, dang. I think the issue, though, is he has to
• 1:08:58
  at this point, I feel like, roll into Oklahoma and at least compete,
• 1:09:02
  because I feel like now if he bounces out before, I think it's
• 1:09:08
  gonna be harder for him to go find another home, Like he'd have to
• 1:09:11
  pretty much go join Jeff Lebby. I think a lot of places have their
• 1:09:14
  quarterbacks already solidified. I think it would be hard for him to go somewhere
• 1:09:16
  elite as if he hits transfer portal, he might have a little bit more
• 1:09:20
  options. But another quarterback that we're not talking that Oklahoma's got, because this
• 1:09:26
  was a very quiet gift for Oklahoma was still was Wastle. He's from Oklahoma,
• 1:09:30
  He's from Choctaw, He's like six' three and in high school that
• 1:09:34
  could tore it up. Ended up committing to Actor, but he was committed
• 1:09:40
  there before Britain Vinnables came to Oklahoma in that cycle, so like we were
• 1:09:45
  just a little late to the game to be able to try to get him
• 1:09:46
  here. But I mean, I don't know if Kevin Spurry is better than
• 1:09:49
  him, to be honest with you, PG, Kevin beginsnestly, I'm not
• 1:09:56
  trying to hate it, You're not. Our quarterback room is just so loaded.
• 1:10:02
  I just don't. I just don't. We've got a lot of good
• 1:10:04
  talent, right, We've got a good problem. Michael Hawkins. He's in
• 1:10:09
  practice hearing that he's doing some special stuff with Jackson Arnold. They're throwing the
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  kitchen sink at Jackson Arnold, so he has to work a lot harder.
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  And then as Hawkins is coming in and getting acclimated to the playbook, he's
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  starting to look really, really good. You're gonna bring Sperry in in January.
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  You'll get to hear about him in practice and going into spring game to
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  determine what that looks like. That's your three quarterbacks you'll have for next season.
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  And then once Jackson Arnold, if Jackson Arnold is as advertised he should
• 1:10:41
  be gone after the twenty five season, then that's when you've got your backlog
• 1:10:45
  of who wins it is in Michael Hawkins, with his athleticism and his elusiveness
• 1:10:53
  and his ability to get some passes on dots, Kevin Sperry, who's probably
• 1:10:58
  the more accurate out of the two. And then you got big Jay O'Neill
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  coming in that January trying to be the next freshman quarterback to start here.
• 1:11:08
  We got a good problem. But man, it's gonna be fun to see
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  what it looks like going into SEC because I think that j O'Neil's gonna end
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  up five star by the end of the cycle. He I feel like he's
• 1:11:18
  on that trajectory and the way that he's raved about, he might be the
• 1:11:23
  best quarterback in that class. Possibly. Yeah, you just got to get
• 1:11:27
  him commit first, right, so we'll find out money. Yeah, we
• 1:11:29
  gotta commit first. What that looks like? But ay, I mean,
• 1:11:32
  I want to count my chickens book before they had. You said something interesting,
• 1:11:38
  and I think this could throw a wrench in things. And this is
• 1:11:41
  what probably gives Kevin Sperry an opportunity. If Jackson Arnold is not what we
• 1:11:45
  think he is and what he was advertised to be, Michael Hawkins probably takes
• 1:11:50
  his job, whether it's this season or start of next season, and I
• 1:11:54
  think at that point Kevin Sperry probably gets an opportunity. That's a fair point,
• 1:12:00
  I think. I mean a lot of that's going to be dependent on
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  because here's the deal. I hate to tell people Hawkins really is that dude?
• 1:12:08
  Like he's that dude? So on Jackson Arnold not being that dude?
• 1:12:14
  Yeah, and and ask the question what does he look like? This seat
• 1:12:17
  will know this season about Jackson Arnold? As I mentioned, I've talked about
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  this that nauseam on a few pieces. The thing nigger, remember that BV
• 1:12:29
  and M don't take it lightly on him. He's getting the he's getting the
• 1:12:33
  treatment that Kevin Wilson and Sam Bradford got when BV was diffensive coordinator. Here
• 1:12:39
  they're throwing the kitchen sink at the kid, and so he's gonna have to
• 1:12:43
  adapt quickly. But the good thing for him is is that he's potentially seeing
• 1:12:45
  one of the top three defenses. He's going to see the entire season,
• 1:12:48
  right, you know, the closest better defense you could possibly see is gonna
• 1:12:54
  probably be what Alabama, maybe p Golding and Ole Miss. I don't trust
• 1:12:59
  Pe Golding. Georgia, we don't play Georgia Championship. Who you said,
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  who we see who? Yeah, I'm going to just who we see,
• 1:13:06
  just who he's gonna actually have to go against. You got old miss Alabama.
• 1:13:11
  I don't think Texas defense is gonna be that good yet. They still
• 1:13:13
  got a lot of pieces to get together. Maybe in maybe next year,
• 1:13:17
  Texas seems more terrifying. But he's gonna see that. And if he shows
• 1:13:25
  up against the if he goes against Tennessee, who has James Pearce junior,
• 1:13:29
  who's probably the number one pick next year, and he's prepared, and we
• 1:13:32
  we keep him from terrorizing us. They're not. There's no questions. So
• 1:13:38
  if there's issues at that point, yeah, you're right, Michaelawalkin, And
• 1:13:41
  he said, hey, man, go ahead, give him opportunity. And
• 1:13:44
  yeah, James Pearce is gonna probably be our telltale, right because he's probably
• 1:13:46
  gonna get at least one or two hits just because he's that talented. So
• 1:13:50
  best, Yeah, Hawk Arnold's gonna see is Auburn l s u's secondary and
• 1:14:00
  probably Alabama's defensive line and then Tennessee right behind Alabama's defensive line and in that
• 1:14:06
  order, and that I'd say that actually that that's fair, that's a fair
• 1:14:12
  assessment because I'm not worried about LSU's defensive line because it's hot garbage. But
• 1:14:15
  I A'm worried about LSU secondary. It's super young. Yeah, it's super
• 1:14:18
  young, like McKinley is gonna be really good. But I think bo Davis
• 1:14:23
  will get them next season. I'm concerned about them just one year underneath Bo
• 1:14:26
  Davis. I think that we may run into some issues, but Auburn they
• 1:14:30
  don't have a problem. Auburn is gonna be a problem with Jordan here because
• 1:14:33
  show up it should. I means sure, that's gonna be what a two
• 1:14:40
  thirty game. It's gonna show up it should. I think I think it
• 1:14:45
  will be okay. I think we'll just have to weather that storm first and
• 1:14:47
  just get through it. But I think it's gonna be perfect weather out there
• 1:14:50
  and we should be able to go out there in ball. But I would
• 1:14:55
  say I want to say this and just ended here. Okay, not the
• 1:15:00
  alphabet. Okay, your A, B, C, D, F,
• 1:15:01
  and G. Okay my alphabet. Most three frustrating letters in my alphabet right
• 1:15:08
  now are J, J, F Okay, And I'm just gonna leave it
• 1:15:14
  there. You don't have to say nothing else about it, but let me
• 1:15:17
  say it again, not the alphabet, my alphabet JJF. Frustrating right now,
• 1:15:25
  very frustrating my backyard. But they're very frustrating. I'm very frustrating.
• 1:15:32
  You know, he's he's already got a twenty six guy. I think the
• 1:15:36
  Jake Roberts and Davon Mitchell pieces. Nobody wants to give him any credit for
• 1:15:41
  those, and everybody wants to, you know, everybody wants to, you
• 1:15:45
  know, throw Hi under the bus because of the other Roberts to Ohio State.
• 1:15:49
  But yeah, I mean, Joe John Finley is I mean, he's
• 1:15:54
  got his place, and this is where you just go, hey, you
• 1:15:57
  know, I trust in this coaching staff and if they see a weak link,
• 1:16:00
  they will address it. And with EJ coming up like he is,
• 1:16:05
  I just you know, I just I just say, let's let's let's see
• 1:16:09
  what happens. If we see this year there's no improvement in usage of the
• 1:16:15
  tight end, then yeah, I think that the full jj F slander have
• 1:16:19
  at it. But I want to I want to see this year because you
• 1:16:24
  know, that's that's that's one of the reasons why Roberts is heading over to
• 1:16:27
  Ohio State is because we didn't show much out of that last year, and
• 1:16:31
  we didn't really have that capability. But I think with uh, you know,
• 1:16:34
  if you if you can get Helm's healthy, he's starting. I mean,
• 1:16:40
  he looks like it McIntyre. You know, Roberts and uh and k
• 1:16:45
  and Sharp, Bower Sharp, they they've got weapons and they've got capability.
• 1:16:50
  So this this year, this year will tell us a lot about JJF And
• 1:16:54
  so if we're going in the next year and it's same as much UH as
• 1:16:58
  the you know what we saw with Levy, but everybody tossed the Levy under
• 1:17:01
  the bus last year and rightfully so, but still we gotta. I think
• 1:17:08
  we give JJF this year to really show because he's got some pieces that he
• 1:17:11
  can work with now. And I'm also mention this he did get Bower sharpened
• 1:17:15
  here, he got Jake Roberts, that was his job. So and if
• 1:17:20
  Jake and Bauer were two of the higher graded receiving tight ends in the SEC
• 1:17:28
  going into next year, So that shocked me. I did a video on
• 1:17:30
  that shot the mess out of me. I have to check it out here
• 1:17:33
  on this channel on going on unfres Sports channel. It shocked me that we've
• 1:17:38
  got guys that are actually look like they're legitimate. Now he's just got to
• 1:17:42
  make sure that they show that at the next level, at this level,
• 1:17:45
  if they do show this here in the SEC kind of got to like lay
• 1:17:48
  off a little bit of the slander because I said this before too. This
• 1:17:50
  is my thought. If JJF focuses his efforts on the portal, I won't
• 1:17:59
  be mad at him. If he brings more Bower Sharps in and he shows
• 1:18:03
  up, can't be mad at that. Well, and he might get a
• 1:18:06
  five star in twenty twenty six as well. So I think Ryder Mix will
• 1:18:13
  be a five star. Well, I mean, he's got the size,
• 1:18:19
  and he's got the program. Uh you know, he's got the program spotlights.
• 1:18:24
  So let's again, it's proof of concept. I mean I saw a
• 1:18:28
  couple of times in there it is. It's it's proof of concept. We
• 1:18:31
  based off expectations and hope and and the hopium that is running. It's not
• 1:18:36
  unwarranted. So yeah, let's let's let's say twenty twenty four is going to
• 1:18:42
  be a big year for the offense in general. Yeah, I'm ready right
• 1:18:47
  now. He's what twelfth and tight ends. We got to see what he
• 1:18:50
  does in camps he's gonna have to he's gonna have to really show out.
• 1:18:56
  I mean, he's got some good sides at six four two twenty. But
• 1:18:59
  I know one player to y'all gonna be surprised about Trenee Washington. Just here're
• 1:19:03
  your boy. I watched him in one on one in camp. Just understand
• 1:19:10
  you're gonna be surprised in a very shockingly happy way. Washington ball is good.
• 1:19:17
  He's he's your tight end. That's your tight end of his class right
• 1:19:20
  now. Right if you wanted to, you could move C. J.
• 1:19:26
  Hickson over there. If he when he commits, he's gonna comit to Oklahoma.
• 1:19:29
  Right. He picked on Ohoma mistake. I don't see how we losing
• 1:19:31
  this to little brother. He's another one that's got a lot of crystal balls.
• 1:19:35
  We're just waiting for him to make that happen. But for real,
• 1:19:42
  Trenee Washington is the one player he's I mean, he's listened as athlete.
• 1:19:45
  He's the one player that's gonna make y'all be like, oh Okay, shout
• 1:19:49
  out to our guy Joe John Finlely for this one, because he could play
• 1:19:55
  and and and Jay. Yeah, I think we're not dogging on John jo
• 1:19:58
  John Finley and Christy I'm not, but I think that I think that Devon
• 1:20:05
  Mitchell was a lot of people give that credit to the Hawkins family and to
• 1:20:11
  that relationship with Hawkins, and I think that's where a lot of people leave
• 1:20:14
  that off. So, like I said, let's see what happened. Mean,
• 1:20:16
  he's already got somebody in on the twenty six class. And so if
• 1:20:19
  you're like, hey, he can't or the twenty five, you know,
• 1:20:21
  hey, he can't recruit or whatever twenty six, I'm sorry. You know
• 1:20:26
  they're they're recruiting so far out now. It's just some of these numbers don't
• 1:20:29
  even make sense to me. But this is why I need to come back
• 1:20:31
  to this show more often than I do. Coop is actually over here trying
• 1:20:36
  to be sympathetic to someone else's plight, Like you know what I'm saying,
• 1:20:41
  And you've got PG taking shots and hot takes. What what if I've been
• 1:20:47
  missing? What's going on? What's the hot take? What's the hot take?
• 1:20:53
  Of five? Was crazy? I don't know if you've seen this film
• 1:20:57
  I didn't come here to. I just don't know if you've seen Rubble.
• 1:21:04
  This is different. I thought Coop would be backing me up right now,
• 1:21:09
  I say, oh yeah, Chris, Chris, No, no, you're
• 1:21:13
  you're not hearing me. I am not going to I said twenty this year
• 1:21:16
  tells us everything after this year if we do not see the proof of concept
• 1:21:20
  because he did not have bodies, Austin Stagner was just a guy out there
• 1:21:26
  who because they had to put a tight end, because we have had a
• 1:21:29
  glorified h back, you know for the past couple of years. You know,
• 1:21:32
  even Braden Willis that that was not a tight end. That was not
• 1:21:35
  that. So there's only one ony Kuno, you kill me, only one
• 1:21:40
  Bubba Moses. I just absolutely think that this year is going to tell us
• 1:21:45
  everything that we need to know for Joe John Finley, and if we do
• 1:21:47
  not see it, then then something needs to happen. Cayden Helms is about
• 1:21:53
  to make Chris look really silly this year because when Caden Helms hits the field
• 1:21:57
  as a tight end for Oklahoma Grant Cacaterra, that's what I keep saying.
• 1:22:01
  I said, if he hit the field, that's what I see that he
• 1:22:04
  looks healthy. Man, Supposedly he's uh, he's at that point where he's
• 1:22:08
  ready to do it. So, but Christ also, I think we could
• 1:22:11
  still land an elite tight end in this class outside of Trenee Washington because and
• 1:22:15
  I was telling Jay this earlier. If you can really show a lot of
• 1:22:23
  concept with the blocking schemes with Jake and then Bower Sharp goes out there and
• 1:22:30
  tears it up as a pass catching tight end, I think you have a
• 1:22:33
  real shot at flipping Nate Roberts on signy Day. I think the biggest thing
• 1:22:38
  for Nate Roberts was there was no concept in Oklahoma for him. And he's
• 1:22:45
  gonna be at some Oklahoma games this year. He's gonna be at some big
• 1:22:49
  ones. So he's gonna be there watching his brother. He'll be He'll be
• 1:22:54
  there for at least Senior Day, which I think Senior Day is the Alabama
• 1:22:57
  game. Yes, every last home game in the season. So yes,
• 1:23:00
  yeah, so wow, I think we got a shot to flip Roberts.
• 1:23:06
  And if that happens, I think a lot of the JJF will that that
• 1:23:11
  slander will the spirit. Yeah. Yeah, it's a fair point, all
• 1:23:15
  right. The only year he's not recruited Titans, well, I mean we
• 1:23:21
  say he hasn't recruited, Well, I think that we do Will in the
• 1:23:24
  portal. I'm sorry about on the recruiting trail, on the recruit and on
• 1:23:28
  the recruiting trail. Yeah, I mean Devine Mitchell did. He's a twenty
• 1:23:31
  five, but he's in twenty four. He's I mean, he's only seventeen
• 1:23:33
  years old. He's huge, by the way, he's a huge human being.
• 1:23:38
  Yeah, I get it, I get it, I get it,
• 1:23:43
  But I mean the slander jjf O man, I oh, you fans are
• 1:23:48
  going to have to have somebody to point their ire at and coach. It's
• 1:23:54
  just it's always going to be DeMarco Murray was getting trounced like two years ago.
• 1:23:58
  Let's not let's not forget about that. Todd Bates might not have been
• 1:24:00
  the great hire that we thought he was at the beginning of the year last
• 1:24:05
  year for some of these fans. So just doing air quotes doesn't really work.
• 1:24:11
  After Bill, doesn't you going to Todd baits? And I was telling
• 1:24:15
  Jay this earlier because I said, Okaholma and Texas are in a very similar
• 1:24:19
  issue right now with interior defensive linemen because they haven't had enough. They they
• 1:24:26
  like, they like they need to put some guys into the NFL for them
• 1:24:28
  to start landing in some of these elite guys. And so although we landed
• 1:24:31
  David Stone, everybody expected Baits to go out there and do that. So
• 1:24:34
  I think everybody's attention will turn back to Baits and say, well, you
• 1:24:40
  had a small class in twenty five. What are you going to do for
• 1:24:43
  me in twenty six? Yeah, but that changes everything. It's so what
• 1:24:48
  have you done for me lately? Industry regardless, Like we talk about the
• 1:24:51
  players that they developed at Clemson and they don't get credit for that. So
• 1:24:55
  as long as we keep doing what we're doing, we'll be good. All
• 1:24:57
  Right, We're gonna wrap it up with the ball in it. We'll go
• 1:25:00
  around the horn everybody. Let everybody know where to find them, Chris,
• 1:25:02
  tell the people where they can find you guys. You guys can find me
• 1:25:05
  at the Hornsdown podcast on YouTube, find me at the horse Doown pod on
• 1:25:11
  Twitter, Chris with a underscore K on Twitter. Definitely like subscribe do all
• 1:25:15
  those things to this video here, guys, Thanks for having me on here.
• 1:25:18
  It's always a pleasure always, DOC always and PG. Yeah, y'all
• 1:25:24
  can find me at the PG show. This is one of my co hosts.
• 1:25:28
  She wanted to hop on here as well, Miss Ruby Jane, But
• 1:25:31
  yeah, you can find me over there on YouTube, and we talk a
• 1:25:33
  lot of recruiting content and it's about to heat up for the next couple of
• 1:25:38
  weeks. Oh yes it is. And of course y'all know Coop who's getting
• 1:25:41
  his SIPs in. He'll be dropping o'all some quick nuggets on some recruits in
• 1:25:45
  the future over there on the Sooner or Later Sports so channel. Check it
• 1:25:48
  out, and yeah, we'll chop it up with y'all. I don't know.
• 1:25:53
  Oh, we'll talk to you all tomorrow, promise you that. Pace