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Have The Buckeyes Found Their Offensive Line? · Buckeyes TomOrrow Morning

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  Speaker 1: it is offensive line Day, get a chance to talk
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  Speaker 1: to Tyler Bowen and an assortment a melonge an amuse.
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  Speaker 2: Bousch of.
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  Speaker 3: I don't know that you're gonna use that word for
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  Speaker 3: an offensive line.
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  Speaker 2: Now, so of offensive lineman. Gotta chat. You were over
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  Speaker 2: with Tyler Bowen.
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  Speaker 1: Tyler Bowen, I think everyone you know has been sort
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  Speaker 1: of following lady.
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  Speaker 2: Hey. The sort of.
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  Speaker 1: Shape of the offensive line battle has been, uh, you know,
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  Speaker 1: maybe changing a little.
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  Speaker 2: Bit, according to what I heard from Tyler Bowen. It's
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  Speaker 2: too soon to know anything.
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  Speaker 3: Too soon to know anything. Why are you even asking questions.
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  Speaker 4: Yeah, when asked about the right tack battle, he said, well,
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  Speaker 4: you know, is it ethan one on one Philli Daniels,
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  Speaker 4: how's that battle going?
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  Speaker 3: He's like, well, it's not that linear.
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  Speaker 4: I'm like, I isn't Matt Patricia supposed to be like
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  Speaker 4: the rocket scientist? Do we really need to get into this?
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  Speaker 4: So he likes to death on the interior. But the
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  Speaker 4: right tackle, you know, as we've talked about, others have
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  Speaker 4: talked about it, and with the way Ryan Day talks
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  Speaker 4: about the offense line, it's almost like you have to
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  Speaker 4: start ignoring what the coaches are saying and start listening
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  Speaker 4: to what they're doing.
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  Speaker 3: And that's what we're.
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  Speaker 1: Seeing well, and what they're doing is Austin Seerveld has
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  Speaker 1: gone from playing the right tackle for most of the spring,
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  Speaker 1: and we kept hearing, well he might be moving over
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  Speaker 1: to the left tackle, and it hadn't happened, and it
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  Speaker 1: hadn't happened, and it hadn't really happened, and you know,
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  Speaker 1: he played a little bit there, a little bit here,
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  Speaker 1: a little bit here and there, but not regularly, and
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  Speaker 1: then started over on the right side.
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  Speaker 2: Oh again at the start of fall.
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  Speaker 1: Camp and then all of a sudden has been exclusively
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  Speaker 1: over on the left side. So that to me feels
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  Speaker 1: like one of those don't tell me what you think,
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  Speaker 1: show me what you think, and they're showing you what
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  Speaker 1: they think there.
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  Speaker 4: Yeah, and when Ryan Day says he's primarily there, and
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  Speaker 4: he's primarily there and he's talking. But then even when
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  Speaker 4: we talk to Austin Sierraveld, he's like, you know, I
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  Speaker 4: don't know where I'll be tomorrow. It's like a like
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  Speaker 4: a vagabond, like a hope, I don't I'll go wherever
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  Speaker 4: the rails take me, and whatever happens happens.
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  Speaker 2: Just me, my bindle in the left tackle position.
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  Speaker 4: So like he's clearly, what position do you like best?
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  Speaker 4: Wherever they'll play me? And but again that's been his
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  Speaker 4: entire career and we can talk about that later. So
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  Speaker 4: he everybody, this whole primary secondary thing has led to
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  Speaker 4: not just a fluid situation, but a fluid offensive line.
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  Speaker 4: And as Bruce Lee said, be like water, and these
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  Speaker 4: offensive linemen are being like water.
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  Speaker 1: They are they are being like water, yes, and they
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  Speaker 1: are sweating a lot, which we saw that as a
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  Speaker 1: type of it is a way.
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  Speaker 2: To be sort of like water.
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  Speaker 1: I mean, Austin Cyriveld is such an interesting story because
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  Speaker 1: he's someone who came in and was not the most
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  Speaker 1: highly touted prospect. You know, he was not He did
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  Speaker 1: not come in with the you know, the you know,
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  Speaker 1: five star hype, and you know, he was not the
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  Speaker 1: next Paris Johnson. He was just here's a guy from
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  Speaker 1: southwest Ohio and you know, I guess we'll see what
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  Speaker 1: he is in a.
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  Speaker 2: Couple of years. And then he just keeps checking.
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  Speaker 1: All these boxes that are like markers for great success
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  Speaker 1: in your future Iron Buckeye and the winner Iron Buckeye
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  Speaker 1: in the summer, which you know that is not like
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  Speaker 1: thirty seven guys get this.
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  Speaker 2: It's like three to five guys get this.
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  Speaker 1: And he was one of those three to five guy,
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  Speaker 1: six maybe guys over the summer. He's someone who feels like,
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  Speaker 1: I mean, we just we did a show about on
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  Speaker 1: the buckye Weekly Show with you know, guys who were
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  Speaker 1: stock up, arrow up kind of guys. He feels like
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  Speaker 1: he is one of the most arrow up people on
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  Speaker 1: this whole team.
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  Speaker 3: Yeah.
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  Speaker 4: First, when you ask his teammates about him, they'll say,
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  Speaker 4: Piggy's doing well, uh huh.
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  Speaker 2: And so then you know, ask Costin like does does
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  Speaker 2: he have to conch?
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  Speaker 4: Where does the piggy come from? He's like, it's a
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  Speaker 4: gamer tag. This gamer tag was like pig pig and
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  Speaker 4: then once Justin Fry found out about it, he's like,
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  Speaker 4: are your piggy? Like basically called him out in the
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  Speaker 4: team team meeting or whatever however that was. But he
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  Speaker 4: talked about like he attributed the growth from last year
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  Speaker 4: to this year to like being able to play left tackle,
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  Speaker 4: to just gaining the confidence. And so then I asked
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  Speaker 4: him last year this time last year being put into
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  Speaker 4: every single position imaginable because of the the illness, how
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  Speaker 4: much did that have your help your confidence? It's like, yeah,
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  Speaker 4: that was that was the basis for it. And you
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  Speaker 4: now you're a left tackle. Tomorrow you're at right tackle.
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  Speaker 4: We need your guard today. And when you're able to
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  Speaker 4: do well like that gives you the confidence to know like, okay,
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  Speaker 4: I'm I'm able to do this, So then you start
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  Speaker 4: playing with confidence you're playing better. And to do that
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  Speaker 4: at such a young age as a rest freshman last year,
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  Speaker 4: which is still very impressive. And now he's taking that
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  Speaker 4: through and he's he's confident wherever they put him. And
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  Speaker 4: that's why back in the spring, Ryan is like, I
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  Speaker 4: don't know where I was. Starting five is I know
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  Speaker 4: Austin Servell will.
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  Speaker 1: Be there, Yeah, and he certainly none. Nothing has changed there.
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  Speaker 1: He is part of that starting five. The location, the
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  Speaker 1: specific location has maybe moved around a little bit, but
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  Speaker 1: still very much in that Starting five. Someone else's confidence
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  Speaker 1: has just seemingly gone through the roof.
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  Speaker 2: Is Philip Daniels.
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  Speaker 1: Philip Daniels in the Spring was a little bit quiet,
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  Speaker 1: maybe a little bit I don't want to say overwhelmed,
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  Speaker 1: but just kind of like still sort of figuring it
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  Speaker 1: out and was not super gregarious.
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  Speaker 2: Maybe when we get a chance to talk to him
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  Speaker 2: in the spring, that has changed. Philip Daniels has found
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  Speaker 2: his voice. Philip Daniels has found his place. Philip Daniels
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  Speaker 2: twice talked about killing people.
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  Speaker 1: I mean not literally committing murder, but you know in
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  Speaker 1: terms of like his job on the field is to
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  Speaker 1: kill people, I mean to really his job is physical violence.
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  Speaker 2: That is part of the role he That is something
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  Speaker 2: that he embraces.
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  Speaker 1: People have talked to a bunch of people have used
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  Speaker 1: the phrase mean streak with him, and that's something he
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  Speaker 1: embraces and he just like he was very good natured.
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  Speaker 1: He had some like a few eyebrow raising things to say,
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  Speaker 1: but boy, he seems like a different person than he
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  Speaker 1: was when we talked to him in the spring.
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  Speaker 3: Yeah.
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  Speaker 4: But and even in the spring, wasn't like one of
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  Speaker 4: the first practices there is he got into it with somebody.
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  Speaker 3: Oh yeah, it's like that.
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  Speaker 1: There were a couple of times that he got into
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  Speaker 1: kind of pushing, showing fight kind of stuff.
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  Speaker 4: But now he's coming out of his his shell. He
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  Speaker 4: did attribute some of his confidence to the the ball
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  Speaker 4: practices where Jack Sawyer is like, you're good, You're gonna
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  Speaker 4: be good.
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  Speaker 3: Yeah, yeah, so that you know that that.
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  Speaker 4: Was just more proof that he could play here. And
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  Speaker 4: then of course, yeah, he's definitely showing up now. And
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  Speaker 4: he was asked about his tenacity and stuff like that,
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  Speaker 4: and he's like, basically, people don't like to get beat
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  Speaker 4: on and then they start reacting. And then I think
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  Speaker 4: he was asked, are you being like are you motivated
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  Speaker 4: or pushed by like ethomy or ethanoni one in that
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  Speaker 4: battle He's like, I'm motivated to help the team, and
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  Speaker 4: that's where his focus is right now. He also said
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  Speaker 4: that I'm here to prove myself and then dot dot
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  Speaker 4: dot and keep killing so.
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  Speaker 2: And I'm all a lot of proving myself.
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  Speaker 3: So that's the kind of guy.
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  Speaker 4: That's kind of attitude you like on the offensive line
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  Speaker 4: until the second personal foul.
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  Speaker 2: Penalty in the game, right exactly.
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  Speaker 1: That's one of those things where it's like you're I
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  Speaker 1: think back to like Iowa quarterback Drew Tait, where when
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  Speaker 1: they were winning, it was fiery, and when they were losing,
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  Speaker 1: he was a jerk.
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  Speaker 2: You got to it's a fine line there. If you
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  Speaker 2: are blowing people off the.
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  Speaker 1: Ball, great, you're fiery, You're you're a winner, you're intense.
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  Speaker 1: Make sure you're not the one getting blown off the ball.
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  Speaker 1: But it sure seems like things are trending in a
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  Speaker 1: direction where he is going in the right direction and
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  Speaker 1: the guy across the line is going in the wrong direction.
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  Speaker 1: He did talk about some of the guys in order.
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  Speaker 1: This is one of these things where it's always interesting
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  Speaker 1: when when they're talking about guys who they go up
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  Speaker 1: against the practice and who they really, you know, are challenged,
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  Speaker 1: but going up against the practice, the order in which
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  Speaker 1: guys get named. Kyden Curry was the first one mentioned
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  Speaker 1: called out his tenacity. You know, it feels like it
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  Speaker 1: feels like he got him, and that doesn't mean you've
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  Speaker 1: actually got him and plays not over. Talked about King
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  Speaker 1: Yana Jackson being essentially he felt that it was like a
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  Speaker 1: mirror image of himself.
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  Speaker 2: I just didn't think in.
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  Speaker 1: Terms of big and strong and physical and all that
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  Speaker 1: kind of stuff. He also said, talked about Hicks Tony,
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  Speaker 1: what did he say about c J.
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  Speaker 4: Hicks said, well, I said they've been battling a lot,
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  Speaker 4: and he called him a mini Abdul Carter.
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  Speaker 2: So that's Ohio State would take that.
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  Speaker 3: A decent praise.
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  Speaker 4: Many, Yes, certainly, and that's I mean, that's what they're
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  Speaker 4: looking for from c. J. Hicks and he's still learning
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  Speaker 4: the position. But yeah, I'm with you. Like when they
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  Speaker 4: when the guy starts throwing the names out. He did mention,
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  Speaker 4: you know, Caden Curry's high motor, like once and once
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  Speaker 4: you think you've got him, he throws something else at you.
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  Speaker 4: So that's something that The the width and breadth of
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  Speaker 4: the defensive ends that Philip Daniels has been going against
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  Speaker 4: has also made him a much better player. And I
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  Speaker 4: don't know if you want to talk about his his
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  Speaker 4: time at Minnesota and what he learned there as opposed
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  Speaker 4: to his time here and what he's learning now.
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  Speaker 1: The floor is yours, and bear in mind Minnesota is
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  Speaker 1: on the schedule, but.
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  Speaker 4: He just said here at Ohio State, it's professional and
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  Speaker 4: you're seeing more pass rushers. He mentioned at Minnesota like, yeah,
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  Speaker 4: we had one good guy, but everybody else basically just
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  Speaker 4: run stoppers. You know, they'd rush to pass and then
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  Speaker 4: you know, play container or whatever. So it's just a
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  Speaker 4: much different test here at Ohio State. And he continued
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  Speaker 4: to continues to pass.
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  Speaker 1: It and ethan Oneanua also having some of his own tests.
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  Speaker 1: This is his first time where he's been tested at guard.
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  Speaker 1: He said he's not played guard before. Talked about, you know,
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  Speaker 1: being in a three point stance for every snap, not
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  Speaker 1: you know, because sometimes it's a guard you're sort of
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  Speaker 1: you're you're not necessarily down into three point stance. So
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  Speaker 1: he talked about that, not really worried about left side
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  Speaker 1: versus right side. He'll you know, he's much like you
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  Speaker 1: hear from a lot of guys play wherever they want
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  Speaker 1: him to. He said, he is down from three sixty
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  Speaker 1: five to three thirty his weight. He said he feels
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  Speaker 1: a lot better because of the weight loss. Says it's
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  Speaker 1: hes don't hurt, he has more flexibility, so.
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  Speaker 3: I don't feel forty years old anymore.
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  Speaker 2: Yeah, Yeah, couldn't be me.
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  Speaker 1: So that was him, And you know, that's still very
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  Speaker 1: much sort of a little bit of a you know,
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  Speaker 1: which one of them is going to be the starting
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  Speaker 1: right tackle, which.
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  Speaker 2: One of them is going to be the starting red guard?
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  Speaker 2: Is taker Shabola in there?
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  Speaker 1: That's still there's sort of working through this, but you know,
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  Speaker 1: Phillip Daniels is another guy who I would definitely have
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  Speaker 1: in the big arrow up list for the Ohio State offense.
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  Speaker 3: Yeah, for sure.
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  Speaker 4: And the attitude, the athleticism and the tenacity of all
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  Speaker 4: that is voting well for them for sure.
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  Speaker 1: Let's talk real quick about Carson Hinsman. Were you over
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  Speaker 1: there for Carson Hinsmon? Yep, okay. My favorite line from
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  Speaker 1: Carson Hinsman was that he was asked about going up
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  Speaker 1: against Hero Canoe, the former o High state defensive tackle
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  Speaker 1: who is now transferred to Texas, and he said he
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  Speaker 1: was looking up trash talk in German because Hero Canoe
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  Speaker 1: is German, so he feels like he may be able
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  Speaker 1: to trash talk Himan and not got called for a penalty.
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  Speaker 1: So I thought that was I mean, that's some really
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  Speaker 1: really uh you know, I don't know if he's in
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  Speaker 1: an international relations major, but you know that's some that's
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  Speaker 1: some great diplomacy.
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  Speaker 4: I think what Carson Hinsman needs to do before that
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  Speaker 4: is before the game, walk up to each rapt and
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  Speaker 4: you know, suspreckens of Deutsch or whatever you do, you
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  Speaker 4: speak German and they're like, what, I don't know what
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  Speaker 4: you're talking about?
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  Speaker 3: That then you know, but if the one guy's like
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  Speaker 3: dah or yah or whatever, then you're like, Okay, I
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  Speaker 3: got it.
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  Speaker 2: He's not Russian.
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  Speaker 4: I gotta gotta stay away from this guy. But I
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  Speaker 4: don't know any Russian insults. But he Carson mentioned learning
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  Speaker 4: a bunch from Charles Bentley in the offseason and all
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  Speaker 4: of the coaches here.
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  Speaker 3: A much different player.
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  Speaker 4: Than he was as a red cher freshman center, where
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  Speaker 4: I think you said, you're you're hoping on a lot
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  Speaker 4: of these snaps, You're hoping, Whereas now he has got
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  Speaker 4: a feel for the defensive coordinators, he knows all the protections,
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  Speaker 4: he knows everything he needs to know, and as a
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  Speaker 4: feeling for how things are going to go as well,
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  Speaker 4: whereas the only thing you're feeling is a recher freshman
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  Speaker 4: center is nerves and.
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  Speaker 3: Vomit.
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  Speaker 2: I guess yeah, he's had such a weird path.
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  Speaker 1: It has not been a linear one for him to
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  Speaker 1: where he is right now by any means. Where he
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  Speaker 1: got on the field a year earlier than expected because
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  Speaker 1: Luke Whipler left a year earlier than.
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  Speaker 2: Expected and was kind of had an up and down.
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  Speaker 1: First year and then lost the job before the bowl game,
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  Speaker 1: and then was kind of mia for the first half
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  Speaker 1: of last year. And then when Seth MacLachlan blew out
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  Speaker 1: his achilles, all of a sudden, congratulations, you're the starting center.
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  Speaker 1: Good luck out there. And then they win the national championships.
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  Speaker 1: So now he's the veteran guy coming back, and so
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  Speaker 1: it's sort of a weird path, but you get, you know,
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  Speaker 1: he's another guy where you get the sense they look
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  Speaker 1: at him the interior of the line, like the tackle,
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  Speaker 1: there's plenty of questions and there's you know, some question
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  Speaker 1: about whether oneon was going to play tackle or guard
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  Speaker 1: or you know, is he a starter guard or whatever.
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  Speaker 1: But interior of the offensive line. That was another thing
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  Speaker 1: that Tyler Bowen didn't really want to talk about. But
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  Speaker 1: those two guard positions in the center, it's like, well,
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  Speaker 1: certainly you feel comfortable with those, right, I mean, and
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  Speaker 1: that was another one where we're kind of.
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  Speaker 3: Like, well we've got depth.
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  Speaker 4: Yeah, and there's still there's some linear nisnality.
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  Speaker 2: That's definitely not a word.
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  Speaker 3: There's some linoleum lineage.
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  Speaker 4: There's some movement available on the interior where you're talking
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  Speaker 4: about ethan on Iona and Tager spoilup possibly battling at
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  Speaker 4: guard there.
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  Speaker 3: So so we'll see how that shakes out.
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  Speaker 4: So I I guess we can believe them when they
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  Speaker 4: say they don't necessarily know who the five is because
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  Speaker 4: there's still some moving parts. But he also did say
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  Speaker 4: it's time to start poning on what that starts, starting
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  Speaker 4: five is going to be and where they're going to
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  Speaker 4: be and this that needs to get going. They need
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  Speaker 4: to have that locked in on Sunday.
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  Speaker 1: Yeah, right, that You're you're getting to the point where
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  Speaker 1: now next week is the week before game week, and
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  Speaker 1: then you get game week and you really want to
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  Speaker 1: kind of have your guys together because we talk about
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  Speaker 1: us all all the time. The importance of the starting
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  Speaker 1: five sort of gelling together and getting to play next
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  Speaker 1: to each other at all, all that kind of stuff.
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  Speaker 2: So anything else.
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  Speaker 1: In terms of Ian Moore or Luke Montgomery.
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  Speaker 4: Well, you know, Tyler Bond did say that Ian Moore
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  Speaker 4: just needs to continue to get stronger at play strength,
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  Speaker 4: but just play strength. I did ask Austin Seerveld if
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  Speaker 4: you needed to how long would it take you to
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  Speaker 4: be able to play center? And he said one day.
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  Speaker 4: Then I asked Joshua Padilla backup center. Hey, Austin Seerveld
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  Speaker 4: said it would only take him a day to be
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  Speaker 4: able to play center.
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  Speaker 3: Is that like?
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  Speaker 4: Is that a is that disrespectful to centers? And josh
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  Speaker 4: pet is that he asked me how to play center?
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  Speaker 4: And I'm like, you got to do this. It's like
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  Speaker 4: there's just no way. Like he totally dismissed the whole
• 14:39
  Speaker 4: one day aspect of it.
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  Speaker 3: But that's Austin Seerveld.
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  Speaker 2: That is Austin Seerveld.
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  Speaker 1: So all right, that is Austin Siriveld, and that is
• 14:46
  Speaker 1: the offensive line. So that's where things stand right now
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  Speaker 1: for the Buckeyes up front.
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  Speaker 2: Of as we.
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  Speaker 1: Said, just over two weeks to that Texas game. I
• 14:54
  Speaker 1: was just over at Ohio Stadium earlier in the morning
• 14:57
  Speaker 1: shooting a little video in there for a piece that
• 14:59
  Speaker 1: I did just sort of walking around campus in the
• 15:01
  Speaker 1: interim between summer semester and fall semester.
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  Speaker 2: This is like the deadest campus ever is, but it.
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  Speaker 1: Was also a beautiful day, So got a bunch of
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  Speaker 1: video or on campus. You can find that on a
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  Speaker 1: YouTube channel if you want to just kind of get
• 15:14
  Speaker 1: a little nostalgic for a mirror lake and the oval
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  Speaker 1: and all that kind of fun stuff. But we will
• 15:18
  Speaker 1: have plenty more coming up in the next couple of weeks.
• 15:20
  Speaker 1: As we count down to that Texas game. There's going
• 15:23
  Speaker 1: to be a lot to talk about on offense, on defense,
• 15:26
  Speaker 1: on special teams. Number one versus number two or number
• 15:28
  Speaker 1: one versus number three, depending on who you ask, going
• 15:31
  Speaker 1: to be one of the games of the year, and
• 15:33
  Speaker 1: it is happening to start the year, and we will
• 15:36
  Speaker 1: be there with our whole team from Buckeye Huddle dot com,
• 15:38
  Speaker 1: Tony Kevin and I cover the team. We got our
• 15:40
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• 15:44
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• 15:46
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  Speaker 1: We hope to see you there. That will do it
• 15:51
  Speaker 1: for today. Thank you guys all for joining us. Have
• 15:53
  Speaker 1: a great day.
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  Speaker 2: We'll talk to you tomorrow