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Evil stepmom’s Google searches reveal hate for little boy Gannon Stauch, wanted him GONE · Crime Stories with Nancy Grace

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Speaker 1: Crime stories with Nancy Greece. An eleven year old little
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Speaker 1: boy goes missing, and somehow nothing has been the same
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Speaker 1: ever since. Did little a Gannon Stock go to a
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Speaker 1: friend's home? Did he ride away on his bike never
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Speaker 1: to be seen again? Was he hiking? What happened to
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Speaker 1: this little boy amidst very very unusual circumstances. The truth
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Speaker 1: is beginning to emerge, and right now we have breaking
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Speaker 1: news in the case of missing Gannon Stock. I may
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Speaker 1: see grace. This is Crime Stories. Thank you for being
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Speaker 1: with us here on Fox Nation and Sirius XM one eleven.
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Speaker 1: First of all, let's kick it off. Take a listen
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Speaker 1: to our friends at the Get Go koa a NBC five.
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Speaker 1: This is Katie Blase, the community holding out hope that
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Speaker 1: Gannon will be found. They've been tying up blue ribbons
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Speaker 1: around the neighborhood, Gannon's favorite color, and distributing and posting
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Speaker 1: flyers like this. Gannon has brown hair and brown eyes.
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Speaker 1: He's eleven years old. He's four nine and weighs ninety pounds,
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Speaker 1: and he was last seen wearing a blue jacket and jeans. Now,
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Speaker 1: we spoke with Gannon's dad on Tuesday at night, and
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Speaker 1: he told us his son was last scene between three
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Speaker 1: fifteen and four on Monday afternoon that he was going
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Speaker 1: to a house, but didn't say which friend. The dad
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Speaker 1: tells us When Gannon didn't return home a few hours later,
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Speaker 1: that's when police were called. Now a little after ten
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Speaker 1: on Tuesday, the Opasso County Sheriff's Office showed up at
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Speaker 1: Gannon's home. Law enforcement were at the home and appeared
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Speaker 1: to be searching in the backyard with some flashlights, and
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Speaker 1: his parents speaking out about the search for their son.
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Speaker 1: Just moments ago. I'm landing Hyatt, Gannon's mom, and I
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Speaker 1: encourage you, guys, I know many of you mothers and fathers.
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Speaker 1: I encourage you just to seek find him. I'm so
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Speaker 1: thankful for all the outpouring help you are hearing in
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Speaker 1: Fancy k at the very beginning when Gannon Stock went missing.
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Speaker 1: But even at the beginning, there were things a kilter,
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Speaker 1: things that didn't quite set right with me, with me
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Speaker 1: an all star panel to break it down to day
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Speaker 1: with me. The former defense attorney for Jodi Arias he
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Speaker 1: certainly knows his way around a court room. Trial lawyer
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Speaker 1: Kirk Nurmi, author of a brand new book, Trapped with
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Speaker 1: Missus Arius on Amazon. Cloyd Steiger thirty six years with Seattle, PD.
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Speaker 1: Author Seattle's Forgotten serial Killer, Gary Jane Grant. You can
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Speaker 1: find him at Cloyd Stiger dot com. Renowned psychoanalysts to
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Speaker 1: the stars. Doctor Bethany Marshall joining us from Beverly Hills
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Speaker 1: at doctor Bethany Marshall dot com. And doctor Michelle Duprie,
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Speaker 1: South Carolina medical examiner, author of Homicide Investigation Field Guide
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Speaker 1: and let me tell you since she won't brag on herself,
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Speaker 1: Doctor Michelle Duprie has performed literally thousands of autopsies and
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Speaker 1: has literally written the book Homicide Investigation Field Guide. And
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Speaker 1: Chase Go Lightly. Special guests joining us Kardo, Colorado Springs,
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Speaker 1: who's been on the case from the very very beginning.
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Speaker 1: Lee Egan Crime Online dot Com investigated reporter. But before
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Speaker 1: we get started with Chase Go Lightly and Lee can
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Speaker 1: take a listen to our friends. This is at the
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Speaker 1: Get Go Dinner CBS Dominic Garcia get a first one
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Speaker 1: missing on Monday in the six thousand block of Manden
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Speaker 1: Drive in Colorado Springs. At that time, he was just
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Speaker 1: considered a runaway. Tuesday. Investigators with the il Pasa County
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Speaker 1: sheriff's office ramped up their search. He started doing more canvassing,
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Speaker 1: even collecting surveillance video. Then today this was upgraded from
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Speaker 1: a runaway case to an endangered child case. That is
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Speaker 1: for a number of reasons, mainly the amount of time
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Speaker 1: that's gone by the fact that this boy is only eleven,
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Speaker 1: the cold weather down here, and also he takes medication
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Speaker 1: that he needs. The FBI has been requested to try
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Speaker 1: and help find this boy. The Sheriff's office is doing
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Speaker 1: all they can, and so have hundreds of the general public.
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Speaker 1: That is something this boy's father is extremely thankful for. Yeah,
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Speaker 1: I came out my front door, I think it was Tuesday,
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Speaker 1: and there's three hundred people out there searching my neighborhood.
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Speaker 1: Blow me away. So you hear the father of Gannon
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Speaker 1: Stock breaking down in tears. This was at the beginning
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Speaker 1: and always amazes me how missing children cases are always
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Speaker 1: treated seemingly as a runaway at the beginning. I've gone
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Speaker 1: round and round and round with police forces all over
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Speaker 1: this country about this. This little boy had no history
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Speaker 1: of running away. That would be like telling me, God forbid,
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Speaker 1: that one of my children had runaway. I know that
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Speaker 1: would not be true. I know it would not be true.
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Speaker 1: The frustration of thinking the cops are going down the
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Speaker 1: wrong avenue. At the get go, this was not a
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Speaker 1: runaway first of all, straight out to chase go lightly
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Speaker 1: k r do. Colorado Springs News reporter on the case
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Speaker 1: from the get go chase go lightly. At the beginning,
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Speaker 1: he was classified as a runaway. Why well, man, like
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Speaker 1: you said, you know, he had no history of running
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Speaker 1: away or anything like that, And the stepmother made the
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Speaker 1: initial call saying that Dannon was missing. Of course, the
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Speaker 1: old Passo County Sheriff's office coming in right away and
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Speaker 1: invest getting that aspect of it. Well, like you said,
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Speaker 1: your history a great kid, But you said, the stepmother
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Speaker 1: called in and stated that what he had gone to
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Speaker 1: little friend's house. Is that what we thought at the beginning,
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Speaker 1: chase go lightly kyrdo little friend's house. That's right, That's
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Speaker 1: what the stepmother said, is that, Hey he he leper
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Speaker 1: a friend's house and just never came back. Right. Question.
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Speaker 1: Do you do we ever get the name of the friend? Yeah? No,
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Speaker 1: The letitia was never able to provide the name of
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Speaker 1: the friend, any phone numbers for the parents of the friend,
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Speaker 1: or even the location of the house Kay where Dannon
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Speaker 1: supposedly went. Chase go lightly right there. To doctor Bethany Marshall,
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Speaker 1: when my children John, David, Lucy go on a play date,
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Speaker 1: it's kind of an unspoken rule. The other mom knows
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Speaker 1: to send me pictures. I don't mean just hey, thanks
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Speaker 1: for letting them come up. No, they send me pictures
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Speaker 1: throughout the play date. And you know what, if that's
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Speaker 1: too onerous for them, forget it. We just don't have
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Speaker 1: a play date because it's not the mom. The moms
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Speaker 1: are great, they're wonderful. It's me. I can't take it.
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Speaker 1: How do you not know the name of the child
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Speaker 1: or the family where your child is going or the
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Speaker 1: alternative let's follow that three, doctor Bethany, either you know,
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Speaker 1: don't know, or you won't tell. Neither of those is
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Speaker 1: a good alternative. Bethany Nancy. First of all, he's an
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Speaker 1: eleven year old little boy. How did he get to
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Speaker 1: this household? Either another mother picked him up or the
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Speaker 1: stepmother took him to the other household. You are not
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Speaker 1: going to send an eleven year old to another household
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Speaker 1: without having a long history, without other family, right because
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Speaker 1: of all the crimes, Oh, you know, it, Bethany, And
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Speaker 1: then would you send a eleven year old to another
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Speaker 1: household if that other kid wasn't a pre existing friend,
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Speaker 1: and if so, they would be to have sense, you know,
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Speaker 1: text to each other. As you said, there would be pictures,
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Speaker 1: there'd be videos, there'd be all kinds of communications back
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Speaker 1: and forth between the two households. I don't like it, Nancy.
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Speaker 1: I don't like the fact that there is absolutely no communication,
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Speaker 1: no trace, And I hate it when there are lack
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Speaker 1: of details to corroborate a story. There's only one story
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Speaker 1: that holds up over time. That's the truth, backed up
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Speaker 1: by details. They used drones, horses, knines, shoulder to soldiers, searches,
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Speaker 1: they brought out the cadets, the police cadets in training.
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Speaker 1: They did it all. I'll save him his breath. They
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Speaker 1: did everything to find Gannon Stock, holding out the hope
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Speaker 1: that Gannon still alive. Time stories with Nancy Grace in
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Speaker 1: the last hours breaking news in the search for eleven
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Speaker 1: year old Gannon Stock. Thank you for being with us,
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Speaker 1: for those of you just joining us, major news in
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Speaker 1: the case. But I want to kick it off with this.
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Speaker 1: Take a listen. If I watched the video at least
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Speaker 1: twenty thirty times. When I take it to a house
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Speaker 1: time they me make sure. First, I watched his own
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Speaker 1: the tablet. I zoom in, I can zoom in, I
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Speaker 1: can look. I saw no fee I can and I
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Speaker 1: turned it up. I said, okay, let me thank you.
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Speaker 1: The bting she get out. She goes the door, grinds
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Speaker 1: are open, She gets alarm in the dark ground. Nobody
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Speaker 1: get out. Look and I look at on the on
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Speaker 1: the TV. Then you get a better view. And I
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Speaker 1: put my phone to the TV, so I can you know,
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Speaker 1: getting one bit of you? I was like, no if
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Speaker 1: he never he never got of the truck. When I
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Speaker 1: went over to it showed him. You are listening to
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Speaker 1: the neighbor of Gannon Stock, the neighbor of his family,
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Speaker 1: straight out to Crime online dot Com investigative reporter Lee Egan. Lee,
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Speaker 1: what can you tell me about the neighbor that took
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Speaker 1: surveillance video unwittingly the last day? Ganna was saying, alive
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Speaker 1: and what it showed, well, Nancy. The neighbor Roderick Drayton,
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Speaker 1: he lives a couple of houses down from the Stout residence,
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Speaker 1: and he said when he was viewing the surveillance from
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Speaker 1: January twenty seventh, the day Gannon disappeared, he saw he
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Speaker 1: showed leave the home in a red pickup truck with Gannon.
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Speaker 1: He saw Gannon gett into the back seat, she got
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Speaker 1: into the driver's seat and they drove away. Now Drayton
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Speaker 1: said when they came home, or when Titia came home,
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Speaker 1: she came home alone without Gannon in the truck with her.
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Speaker 1: To u Chloy Steiger thirty six years ATTLEPD, he did
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Speaker 1: not mean to take the video. The video surveillance camera
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Speaker 1: was motion activated. What is his significance of what was
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Speaker 1: picked up on that camera? Lloyd, Well, A good thing
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Speaker 1: is frits fault. Video camera's the neighborhoods have been a
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Speaker 1: big boon to detective investigative kind of cases to they
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Speaker 1: give a visual record of what's going on. And right
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Speaker 1: away that didn't match the story she told the initial
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Speaker 1: officer as to what happened. So that's really really important
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Speaker 1: to get that down in through good evidence. You know,
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Speaker 1: he's right, Lee Egan Crime Online dot Com investigative reporter.
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Speaker 1: How does what he sees on his home video not
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Speaker 1: match what the stepmother said. She claims that he had
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Speaker 1: the wrong date. She says, I know for sure that
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Speaker 1: he's showing a different date because when Gannon came home
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Speaker 1: with me on Monday, January twenty seven, he was holding
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Speaker 1: a white bag in his hand. Now there's another video
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Speaker 1: going around where it does show Ginnon holding this white
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Speaker 1: bag in his hand. But Draydon is saying that that
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Speaker 1: video was taken on Sunday to twenty six and not
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Speaker 1: the twenty seven. Latitia said, no way, that has to
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Speaker 1: be the twenty seven. So there, you know, there's discrepancies.
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Speaker 1: But I just don't see, you know, Drayton, he's the
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Speaker 1: one with the video. He sees the dates, he sees
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Speaker 1: the time stamps. You know what I find also very
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Speaker 1: disturbing to kirk Nermi, now famous defense attorney who represented
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Speaker 1: Jody Arias at trial in the murder of her lover,
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Speaker 1: Travis Alexander kirk Nermi, it's very very disturbing this aspect.
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Speaker 1: I understand what the stepmother is saying, this is the
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Speaker 1: wrong date. But when the neighbor went over to tell
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Speaker 1: the family, Hey, I've got video of your child. Do
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Speaker 1: you want to see it? The stepmother said no. She
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Speaker 1: didn't even want to look at the video. She hadn't
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Speaker 1: even seen what it was, but she wasn't interested in
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Speaker 1: seeing it. Kurt Nermi, I mean, I know you as
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Speaker 1: a defense attorney can really tear down that argument at trial,
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Speaker 1: But to me, that's very significant. If somebody told me
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Speaker 1: they had video of my child around the time he
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Speaker 1: or she went missing, I'd be all over it, right,
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Speaker 1: I mean, more red flags are being raised. Right. We
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Speaker 1: already have this strange story about what we've talked about earlier,
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Speaker 1: going to this child, this friend's home, this unknown friend,
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Speaker 1: and then we have her turning away from direct evidence
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Speaker 1: of her supposedly missing son, our stepson. So yeah, I mean,
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Speaker 1: we have more and more red flags raising around this woman,
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Speaker 1: and it makes sensibility to suspicion drawn very bad to you, Lee,
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Speaker 1: egan crime online And during all of this the search
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Speaker 1: for Gannon, you're on the phone with the stepmother, the
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Speaker 1: last one to see him alive. What were the different
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Speaker 1: things she was telling you, Lee, Oh my goodness, I'm
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Speaker 1: not sure where to start with that. There was She
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Speaker 1: kind of stuck to the same story with me, except
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Speaker 1: for when it came to this lie detector test that
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Speaker 1: she wanted to show me that she reached out, and
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Speaker 1: she's the one that kept saying, I need to show
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Speaker 1: you this, but it has to be in person. I
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Speaker 1: don't want to send it over email because I don't
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Speaker 1: want to take the chance of it getting leaked and shared.
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Speaker 1: Because she wanted to maintain the integrity of this supposed
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Speaker 1: current police chiefs that did the test for her. Each
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Speaker 1: time we were going to set up a time to meet,
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Speaker 1: though there was excuses why she could not. Oh please
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Speaker 1: tell me the excuses. Well, the first one was there
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Speaker 1: was a security that some kind of security issue. She said,
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Speaker 1: it's a major, has nothing to do with the test,
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Speaker 1: but it's major. I can't go into it right now.
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Speaker 1: So I was like, Okay, that's fine, we'll set up
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Speaker 1: a different date now. The morning I was supposed to go,
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Speaker 1: I was supposed to go from Atlanta out to Myrtle Beach,
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Speaker 1: South Carolina, meet her at a Starbucks where her and
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Speaker 1: her agent were to show the white what her agent,
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Speaker 1: that's what she called him, or whoever it is, her
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Speaker 1: independent agent who did this test for her. Oh okay,
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Speaker 1: so this is who did the lie detector test? Correct?
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Speaker 1: O correct? Go ahead. So on that morning she texts
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Speaker 1: and she tells me she's suicidal, she can't take it anymore,
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Speaker 1: she can't meet. And then that was that I didn't
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Speaker 1: hear from her. I actually called the police out in
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Speaker 1: Myrtle Beach to have them check on her. They couldn't
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Speaker 1: find her at her old address. I had no idea
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Speaker 1: where where she was staying, because all she told me
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Speaker 1: was that we were to meet at a Starbucks in
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Speaker 1: Myrtle Beach. Then a couple of days later she calls
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Speaker 1: again and she apologizes, and I'm like, no, that's okay,
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Speaker 1: you know what, Let's forget the lie detect her, let's
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Speaker 1: just meet. Then it's the interview. At that point, she
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Speaker 1: almost got irritated as she assisted, I took this test,
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Speaker 1: I passed this test. I'm going to show you this test.
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Speaker 1: And then two days after that she was arrested. So
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Speaker 1: quite the long line of advance. Take a listen to
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Speaker 1: a turn in the case. We were told today that
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Speaker 1: an additional first degree murder charge was filed against Letitia
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Speaker 1: Stout today, as were a crime of violence counts alleging
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Speaker 1: the use of a firearm, a blunt instrument, at a
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Speaker 1: knife or sharp instrument. The eleven year old's body was
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Speaker 1: found near this bridge the Highway ninety bridge over the
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Speaker 1: Escambia River near Pensacola, Florida. It was a road construction
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Speaker 1: worker who found the remains Tuesday. Investigators aren't releasing any
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Speaker 1: details about how the boy died. They say he was
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Speaker 1: killed in Colorado and then taken to Florida. I asked
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Speaker 1: how finding a body can help with an investigation. Senior
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Speaker 1: District Deputy District Attorney Michael Allen said there's generally evidence
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Speaker 1: on a body. He wouldn't go into specifics about the case,
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Speaker 1: but did say Gannon's family is taking things very hard. Obviously,
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Speaker 1: they're distraught with this information. They were still holding out
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Speaker 1: hope that Gannon would come home alive despite the original
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Speaker 1: charges that we fought in this case. And they're struggling,
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Speaker 1: and they rightfully would be, considering the circumstances of this case.
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Speaker 1: It's tragic and we you know, like I said at
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Speaker 1: the beginning, our hearts go out to them. You were
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Speaker 1: hearing our friends at ABC seven News Denver, the body
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Speaker 1: of this eleven year old boy is found, and the
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Speaker 1: body is found far far away in the last hours,
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Speaker 1: a major break in the case. Take a listen to
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Speaker 1: our friends at Fox twenty one. This is Brandon Thompson
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Speaker 1: Yeaffa David alleges on Valentine's Day, Latitia told her husband
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Speaker 1: four different stories of what happened. One says Latitia reportedly
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Speaker 1: stated blood found in Gannon's room was a mixture of
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Speaker 1: hers and his. Skilled person that would know that would
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Speaker 1: either be a forensic examiner or a person who at
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Speaker 1: present at the time of the murder. And last Google searches.
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Speaker 1: The affidavit alleges she made searches like find a guy
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Speaker 1: who wants me to take care of his kids and
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Speaker 1: get paid. Why should my husband choose me over family?
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Speaker 1: One day some people will wish they treated you differently.
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Speaker 1: I feel like just a nanny, not a stepmom. Those
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Speaker 1: are supportive of the prosecution's theory here, which is this
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Speaker 1: is a woman who was very unhappy in her marriage
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Speaker 1: who she was led to this horrific murder because she
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Speaker 1: was lashing out. Prime stories with Nancy Grace. Guys, for
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Speaker 1: those of kids joining us, The body of Gannon Stout
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Speaker 1: found far far away from home, and in the last
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Speaker 1: hours we are learning more and more about the police investigation.
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Speaker 1: Take a listen to our friends at Fox twenty one
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Speaker 1: Brandon Thompson. They say Letitia Stout led multiple times. In fact,
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Speaker 1: her story changes dramatically. In the two days following, They
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Speaker 1: say she tried to clean out the crime scene herself,
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Speaker 1: but investigators found Gannon's blood stained on the cement below
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Speaker 1: his bed. On Monday, January twenty seventh, Latitia Stout reported
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Speaker 1: Gannon missing at six fifty five pm. In the nine
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Speaker 1: one one call, she had said he had gone to
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Speaker 1: a friend's home and was supposed to be home by
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Speaker 1: six pm. Two days later, she told investigators Ganon was kidnapped,
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Speaker 1: saying a man she allowed in her home to fix
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Speaker 1: Carpett had raped her and kidnapped Gannon. Those are two
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Speaker 1: of several lives investigators say Letitia Stout told them the
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Speaker 1: media and Ganon's father, Al Stout. The day Gannon disappeared,
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Speaker 1: Letitia Stout called Gannon sick out of school. When Ganon's
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Speaker 1: nine year old sister returns home from school, she asked
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Speaker 1: Latitia Stout where her brother was, and she replied he
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Speaker 1: was asleep in her bed and to go play outside.
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Speaker 1: According to the documents, police believe Gannon was already dead.
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Speaker 1: About an hour later, Letitia sends a text to her
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Speaker 1: seventeen year old daughter who was at work all day.
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Speaker 1: Quote carpet powder, two things, baking soda, trashbags. Investigators believe
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Speaker 1: quote these items were likely to clean up the murder scene.
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Speaker 1: When I hear what we have discovered in the police affidavits,
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Speaker 1: it's very heartbreaking. Straight out to Chase go lightly joining
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Speaker 1: us Kardo, Colorado Springs News reporter, The breaking news coming
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Speaker 1: out of police documents from police sources is very very upsetting.
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Speaker 1: We are learning that blood is found on the cement
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Speaker 1: under Gannon's bed there in the family home. What else
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Speaker 1: do we know? Chase and feel, like you said, it
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Speaker 1: is heartbreaking just seeing what's in that thirty two page
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Speaker 1: or rest affidavin Like you said, blood found underneath Gannon's bed,
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Speaker 1: blood found on light sockets on the wall, on the car,
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Speaker 1: more than fifty droplets of blood. Police were able to
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Speaker 1: identify and confirm that it was Gannon's blood. They also
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Speaker 1: were able to confirm that cleaning products that were mentioned
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Speaker 1: just before baking soda were used to try to clean
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Speaker 1: up the blood. But forensics were still able to pick
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Speaker 1: it up from that trail in Gannon's room and actually
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Speaker 1: goes through all throughout the house leading up to the garage. Nancy,
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Speaker 1: can I make a comment about this crime scene, Yes, Spethanie,
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Speaker 1: I was just coming to you. I'm just trying to
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Speaker 1: take in the amount of blood. Go ahead, blood everywhere.
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Speaker 1: Most women who kill their children engage in what we
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Speaker 1: call a soft kill. They even though they want to
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Speaker 1: get rid of the child, they still do not want
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Speaker 1: the child to suffer. They will poison the child, They
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Speaker 1: will drown the child, They will put a pillow over
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Speaker 1: the child's head. This stepmother brutalized the child, brutalized, hit, kick, tortured,
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Speaker 1: beat him. The m is not just to kill him.
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Speaker 1: The m was too toward for him. She needed this child.
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Speaker 1: When I look at these Google searches find me a
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Speaker 1: new husband book, I feel like I'm just a nanny,
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Speaker 1: not a stepmom. Husband uses me to babysit his kids.
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Speaker 1: Are there any free money to move away from bad situation?
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Speaker 1: There's not one Google search about the children? Did you
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Speaker 1: notice that? How to hell? I want to go through
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Speaker 1: those very carefully. The various Google searches that were then
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Speaker 1: found on the stepmom Lutitia's stocks computer. What do we
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Speaker 1: know about that? Lee Egan Crime Online What were the
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Speaker 1: searches that the stepmother engaged in. Oh, my goodness, there
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Speaker 1: were there were many alarming searches. In part, it was
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Speaker 1: like doctor Marshall just said, find me a new husband book.
23:44
Speaker 1: I'm I'm overdoing all the work for my stepchildren. The
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Speaker 1: stepchildren's mother should thank me, because oh no, my step
23:53
Speaker 1: the children's mother should send me a card for taking
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Speaker 1: care of her children. Biological mother does nothing for her children,
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Speaker 1: find new places to live. I'm trying to remember all
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Speaker 1: of the hold on you, Jackie Let's hear Dinner Fox
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Speaker 1: thirty one Nicole Fierro. The affidavit alleges on Valentine's Day,
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Speaker 1: Letitia told her husband four different stories of what happened.
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Speaker 1: One says Latitia reportedly stated blood found in Gannon's room
24:20
Speaker 1: was a mixture of hers and his. The only person
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Speaker 1: that would know that would either be a forensic examiner
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Speaker 1: or a person who at present at the time of
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Speaker 1: the murder. And last Google searches. The affidavit alleges she
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Speaker 1: made searches like find a guy who wants me to
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Speaker 1: take care of his kids and get paid. Why should
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Speaker 1: my husband choose me over family? One day, some people
24:41
Speaker 1: will wish they treated you differently. I feel like just
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Speaker 1: a nanny, not a step mom. Those are supportive of
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Speaker 1: the prosecution's theory here, which is this is a woman
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Speaker 1: who was very unhappy in her marriage, who she was
24:54
Speaker 1: led to this horrific murder because she was lashing out.
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Speaker 1: Why I feel like a nanny, not a stepmom. Why
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Speaker 1: should my husband choose me over family? It goes on
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Speaker 1: and on to Chase go lightly KRDO Colorado Springs News reporter,
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Speaker 1: what did you and your colleagues at KRDO discover Chase
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Speaker 1: regarding Stepmommi's various Google searches. Well, like we just mentioned,
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Speaker 1: there's a lot of things searching for, like single military,
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Speaker 1: you know, men in my area. There was also some
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Speaker 1: search of her history that she deleted that investigators were
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Speaker 1: able to find and is just all in regards to that,
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Speaker 1: showing her unhappiness with the family. The searches reveal that
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Speaker 1: she just feels underappreciated as a stepmom, and also it
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Speaker 1: just looks like she was trying to get out of
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Speaker 1: the marriage. I believe another thing that she was searching
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Speaker 1: for was men that want me to take care of
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Speaker 1: their kids and get paid for it. So it really
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Speaker 1: showed in her search history that she wasn't happy in
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Speaker 1: the relationship and possibly trying to get out of it
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Speaker 1: and search for another military family. To Dr. Michel du Pre,
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Speaker 1: South Carolina medical examiner and author of the Homicide Investigation
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Speaker 1: Field Guide, Doctor Dupree, I'm hearing and reading in police
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Speaker 1: documents and affidavits about these computer searches, and I'm trying
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Speaker 1: to reconcile the amount of blood and the placement of
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Speaker 1: the blood at the crime scene. Doctor Dupre, it's a
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Speaker 1: real honor to have you with us today in your expertise.
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Speaker 1: What does that blood tell you? Answer? That blood can
26:28
Speaker 1: tell us so many things. First of all, it can
26:31
Speaker 1: tell us the approximant type of weapon that was used,
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Speaker 1: whether it's high impactralow impacts batter It can tell us
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Speaker 1: where the person was when they were struck with that weapon.
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Speaker 1: It can also tell us, depending on the amount of blood,
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Speaker 1: it could tell us whether that person was actually killed
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Speaker 1: in that spot or not. What do you make of
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Speaker 1: the fact that there was so much blood directly under
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Speaker 1: his bed? Does that mean he was killed on the
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Speaker 1: bed or does that mean the bed was moved over
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Speaker 1: to cover up the spot of the murder, Nancy, it
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Speaker 1: probably means that the bed was moved to cover up
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Speaker 1: the spot of the murder. To sew through the mattress
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Speaker 1: and to have a lot of blood on the floor
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Speaker 1: after that would really be difficult. So I would imagine
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Speaker 1: that the child was killed there and the blood was
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Speaker 1: moved to cover it up. Yeah, isn't it true? To
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Speaker 1: chaseco lightly Kardo, Colorado Springs that we learn after an
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Speaker 1: exhaustive computer and devicelet trying to device search that before
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Speaker 1: step mom called nine one one, she actually texted her
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Speaker 1: teen daughter to go get cleaning supplies and bring them
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Speaker 1: home FRONTO. That is correct. Yeah, she texted her seventeen
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Speaker 1: year old daughters saying, Hey, can you go pick up
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Speaker 1: trash bags baking soda at the grocery store and be
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Speaker 1: able to bring it back, not specifically saying in the
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Speaker 1: text message what those supplies were for, but police were
27:48
Speaker 1: able to give receipts for those and yes, according to
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Speaker 1: the rest of the David that the daughter, Letitia's daughter
27:54
Speaker 1: did bring it. And also another thing I wanted to comment,
27:57
Speaker 1: just about the bed and it being moved. When Gannon's
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Speaker 1: father out now came back, he was in the National Guard.
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Speaker 1: He was out of state. When he came back, he said, hey,
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Speaker 1: there's something wrong with this bed here. Usually it's pushed
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Speaker 1: up against the wall, and when he came back he
28:09
Speaker 1: could see he was probably a couple inches off the wall.
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Speaker 1: So the father knew something maybe was kind of going
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Speaker 1: on there when he was examining Gannon's room. Crime stories
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Speaker 1: with Nancy Grace. Guys, thank you for being with us
28:31
Speaker 1: at Fox Nation and series Sex in one eleven. Bombshell
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Speaker 1: discoveries and police affidavits and police files that we have
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Speaker 1: just obtained. Take a listen to our friend CBS Denvernese
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Speaker 1: reporter Rick Salinger. The investigation also revealed the stepmothers he
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Speaker 1: internet searches. One was for husband uses me to babysit
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Speaker 1: his kids, the court back and then claims. Letitia Stout
28:56
Speaker 1: later changed her story that Gannon had run away to
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Speaker 1: that she was raped by an intruder who then kidnapped
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Speaker 1: the boy. Investigators believe Letitias Stout then took the body
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Speaker 1: from the Palmer Lake carry and drove it to Florida,
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Speaker 1: where she dumped it beneath the bridge. Doctor Bethany, I've
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Speaker 1: got to throw this one to you. What could possess
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Speaker 1: someone to murder their stepson in a bloody death, not
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Speaker 1: a soft kill that you pointed out, like asphyxiation, but
29:28
Speaker 1: a violent, horrible death, and then drive over a thousand
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Speaker 1: miles to dump the child's body. There are several motivations
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Speaker 1: I can think of. First of all, she was extremely
29:39
Speaker 1: preoccupied and angry with her husband. She felt rejected, She
29:43
Speaker 1: felt left out that he preferred other family members to her.
29:47
Speaker 1: She wanted a rich husband, not somebody who wasn't giving
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Speaker 1: her money, So her rage towards her husband being taken
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Speaker 1: out on the child. And perhaps she felt that he
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Speaker 1: loved the child more than hers, so taking her rage
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Speaker 1: at her husband out on the child. Secondly, she's so
30:05
Speaker 1: preoccupied with money. I want a rich husband. Why can't
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Speaker 1: I get money for taking care of this child? A
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Speaker 1: woman like this who's pathologically preoccupied with the feeling that
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Speaker 1: her needs are not being met, are going to resent.
30:19
Speaker 1: She's going to resent the needs of the child. This
30:21
Speaker 1: is what we see with nurses and caregivers and nannies
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Speaker 1: who killed children. Often at some pathological, twisted level, they
30:29
Speaker 1: feel that their needs are not getting met, so every
30:32
Speaker 1: time they feed the child hugged the child, offer the
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Speaker 1: child something. They also resent the child for being beloved
30:39
Speaker 1: and getting their needs met. And so these are two
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Speaker 1: very compelling motives that I can think of, besides the
30:45
Speaker 1: fact that she's just twisted and personality disordered. Take a
30:48
Speaker 1: listen to Fox twenty ones Brandon Thompson. She called nine
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Speaker 1: one one to report again and missing just before seven
30:54
Speaker 1: that night. Three hours later, deputies respond to the home
30:57
Speaker 1: and Latitia consents to a search of the home, not
30:59
Speaker 1: by anything suspicious at that time. However, in the five
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Speaker 1: searches of the home by the Metrocrime Lab in the
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Speaker 1: weeks following, they found Gannon's blood in the garage, on
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Speaker 1: the trunk of Latitia's car, and in his basement bedroom.
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Speaker 1: There was so much blood the documents say it had
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Speaker 1: soiled through the mattress, leaked through the carpet, and stained
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Speaker 1: the cement below. Then, tracking Latitia's car, investigators found that
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Speaker 1: she had driven to Highway one oh five the following
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Speaker 1: day at nine fifteen pm and State for about thirty minutes.
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Speaker 1: Then three days later she returned in a different car
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Speaker 1: that the Sheriff's office had put a tracking device on.
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Speaker 1: On February fifteenth, Investigators found Gannon's blood on a particle
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Speaker 1: board in that area, but could not find a body.
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Speaker 1: They say Latitia stout returning to the Highway one oh
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Speaker 1: five area shows quote Latitia disposed of Gannon's remains at
31:37
Speaker 1: nighttime and likely was nervous about the location she chose,
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Speaker 1: and that investigators believed quote she went back to the
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Speaker 1: area to view the area while sunlight was available to
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Speaker 1: ensure no evidence was viewable from the road. At ten
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Speaker 1: forty five, the night after Gannon disappeared, she texted investigators
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Speaker 1: saying multiple times, quote, what do you want for me?
31:54
Speaker 1: That was certainly a mouthful that's drinking from the fire Hydra.
31:57
Speaker 1: I just couldn't take it all in. But I'm hearing this.
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Speaker 1: I'm hearing a lot of good police work at some point.
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Speaker 1: Cloyd Steger, thirty six years SEATTLEPD, author Seattle's Forgotten serial Killer,
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Speaker 1: Gary Jane Grant on Amazon Cloyd, did you hear that?
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Speaker 1: You know you've got to get a search warrant to
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Speaker 1: do this from an impartial magistrate. But they put a
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Speaker 1: tracking device on some other car, not the car she
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Speaker 1: normally drove, and tracked her around, and it took them
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Speaker 1: after they went there. I guess that's how they found it,
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Speaker 1: particle board out in the middle of nowhere with Gannon's
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Speaker 1: blood on it. Yeah, there was a lot of good
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Speaker 1: police work done by the Deteckats in this case. And
32:38
Speaker 1: I read the affidavit and the evidence is insurmountable almost
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Speaker 1: with everything, and you're right doing your right things getting
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Speaker 1: a search warrant one needed, not cutting any corners. But
32:48
Speaker 1: I'd also like to briefly talk about those Google searches.
32:51
Speaker 1: What a boon for the detective that this woman uses
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Speaker 1: Google as their personal diary. What kind of searchers are those?
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Speaker 1: I mean, that's just that's damning. It is damning, and
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Speaker 1: it takes a forensic expert to recover all that. But
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Speaker 1: if you know how to do it, it's not hard
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Speaker 1: to do. It may be as simple as looking at
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Speaker 1: the history. Another issue I'm hearing Lee Egan crime online
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Speaker 1: dot com. Remember when you spoke on one of your
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Speaker 1: many conversations with the step mom. She was talking to
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Speaker 1: you and giving you some story about why she took
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Speaker 1: this circuitous route. Explain to everybody what she told you.
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Speaker 1: Now this is where his body ended up being. Excuse me,
33:31
Speaker 1: the blood on the particle board ended up being found.
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Speaker 1: What does she tell you she was doing exactly? She
33:37
Speaker 1: said she took the back roads of a longer route
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Speaker 1: because there had been a wreck, I believe, on the
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Speaker 1: main highway on the morning of the January twenty seventh,
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Speaker 1: and she said she needed to go to Castle Rock,
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Speaker 1: which is around an hour away from their home, to
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Speaker 1: buy her husband some kind of specialized bicycle. She said,
33:57
Speaker 1: on the way there, they stopped at Played Against Sports,
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Speaker 1: just a youth sporting good store, so she could trade
34:03
Speaker 1: him old equipment to buy again and a hockey equipment.
34:06
Speaker 1: But there's no confirmation that that ever happened. As far
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Speaker 1: as the bike shop, there's no She didn't even give
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Speaker 1: me the name of it. And you know, Lee Aigan,
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Speaker 1: you told me something really telling that during all this
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Speaker 1: she left her cell phone at home. Who does that
34:19
Speaker 1: when you go on a trip, But she forgot she
34:21
Speaker 1: had on her Apple Watch, which tracks your movements. You know,
34:25
Speaker 1: I heard another thing. Doctor Michelle Dupree, renowned medical examiner
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Speaker 1: out of South Carolina and author Homicide Investigation Field Guide,
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Speaker 1: I just learned something new from all of these documents.
34:35
Speaker 1: The blood did seep through the mattress. He had a
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Speaker 1: basement bedroom and it went down through the cementcy I
34:44
Speaker 1: didn't know that. So that's a lot of blood, Doctor Dupree. Absolutely,
34:50
Speaker 1: that is definitely a lot of blood. And we can
34:53
Speaker 1: actually determine how much blood that is by doing an experiment.
34:57
Speaker 1: If we need to prove that there is a murder
34:59
Speaker 1: without a body, how we will use something like an
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Speaker 1: IV equipment, you know, the intravenous equipment, where we have
35:06
Speaker 1: a bag of blood and we've dripped that blood or
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Speaker 1: tie traded onto a similar mattress, the same size, same way,
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Speaker 1: until we have the same blood pool that we have
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Speaker 1: at the crime scene, and we can measure that amount
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Speaker 1: of blood. You've done that before, we have You know what,
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Speaker 1: every time I talk to you, you amaze me all
35:26
Speaker 1: over again, between you and doctor Bethany. I mean, so
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Speaker 1: Chase go lightly k r D Colorado springs on the scene.
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Speaker 1: What happens now, Chase, Yeah, just from m here, we're
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Speaker 1: just you know, waiting to see what happens next with
35:43
Speaker 1: Leticia being uh, you know, back in court. So you're
35:46
Speaker 1: on the first name basis now Leticia just go under that,
35:49
Speaker 1: I guess or the step mom. But just kind of
35:51
Speaker 1: what happens from here is that we just want to
35:53
Speaker 1: try to get more information on exactly how did she
35:56
Speaker 1: get the body over to Florida and everything like that.
35:59
Speaker 1: In the arrest of it, David, like I said, it
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Speaker 1: was completed before investigators found the body in Florida. So
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Speaker 1: that's just the more information that we're trying to look
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Speaker 1: out for right now is just to see how was
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Speaker 1: she possibly able to do that and then how many
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Speaker 1: days after that did she get arrested in South Carolina
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Speaker 1: then extra extradite it back to Colorado. Guys, we wait
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Speaker 1: as justice unfalls. Nancy Grace Crime Story, signing off Goodbye friend,