Latest / Pastor John Piper's answers / Sovereignty and My Murdered Friend
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- 0:49Speaker 2: Well.
- 0:49Speaker 1: There's a kind of news that will stop you cold,
- 0:53Speaker 1: like what we read together in this email from a
- 0:55Speaker 1: seventeen year old high school student, her close friend, a teammate,
- 0:59Speaker 1: and her friend's mother. We're both brutally murdered. Here's the question,
- 1:04Speaker 1: Mastor John'm high school student, a girl who was my
- 1:07Speaker 1: close teammate and her mother were recently brutally murdered. People
- 1:10Speaker 1: say this was her time or God's will, But I
- 1:14Speaker 1: don't understand how this can be true. The murderer's actions
- 1:18Speaker 1: were obviously sinful, violating God's commands like you shall not
- 1:21Speaker 1: murder Nexus twenty thirteen. If their choices were evil, how
- 1:25Speaker 1: could this tragedy be God's plan? How does God's sovereign
- 1:28Speaker 1: will operate alongside human sin, especially when it leads to
- 1:32Speaker 1: such profound suffering? How can I reconcile this and turn
- 1:35Speaker 1: to the Lord for comfort and understanding in my grief?
- 1:40Speaker 2: What I want to focus on here is this young
- 1:42Speaker 2: woman's last question, the very personal one, namely, how can
- 1:48Speaker 2: I turn to the Lord for comfort and understanding in
- 1:53Speaker 2: my grief? And the reason I want to focus there
- 1:57Speaker 2: is because we've already Deale in several asked Pastor John's
- 2:03Speaker 2: with the larger theological question about whether God can do
- 2:09Speaker 2: what he commands not to be done, Whether God can
- 2:14Speaker 2: and does will that things happen which are sinful. We've
- 2:18Speaker 2: dealt with that question several times, whether it is sinful
- 2:22Speaker 2: of God to plan to will that sin come to pass?
- 2:28Speaker 2: For example, Oney one hundred and twenty two, does God
- 2:32Speaker 2: decree events he does not want to happen? And the
- 2:37Speaker 2: answer from the Bible is yes, he does. The most
- 2:40Speaker 2: significant example and is relevant for her own personal situation. Eventually,
- 2:45Speaker 2: I'll try to show. The most significant example is from
- 2:50Speaker 2: Acts for twenty seven and twenty eight, where Luke tells
- 2:53Speaker 2: us that Herod and Pontious Pilot, and the Gentiles and
- 2:57Speaker 2: the mobs in Israel were gathered to get the other
- 3:00Speaker 2: to do what God had predestined to take place, and
- 3:04Speaker 2: virtually everything they did was sin It was evil to
- 3:09Speaker 2: murder Jesus. Everything about it was sinful, and God willed
- 3:14Speaker 2: that his son be murdered so that we might be saved,
- 3:19Speaker 2: even if we are murderers. It's an amazing conjunction right there,
- 3:24Speaker 2: of the sovereignty of God and the saving love of God.
- 3:28Speaker 2: Another example is Job one seventeen, where the Chaldeans attack
- 3:33Speaker 2: and murder Job's servants, to which Job responds in verse
- 3:38Speaker 2: twenty one, the Lord has taken away. The Lord has
- 3:41Speaker 2: taken away, and the inspired writer of the look of
- 3:44Speaker 2: Job at the end of the book in chapter eleven.
- 3:47Speaker 2: In chapter forty two, verse eleven, he refers to Job's losses,
- 3:52Speaker 2: including the murder of his servants, as quote the evil
- 3:56Speaker 2: that the Lord had brought upon him. So the Bible
- 4:00Speaker 2: teaches that God is sovereign over every detail of the universe.
- 4:06Speaker 2: Not a bird falls without his will Matthew ten twenty nine.
- 4:11Speaker 2: The king's heart is like a river in the hand
- 4:13Speaker 2: of the Lord. He turns it wherever he wills Proverbs
- 4:16Speaker 2: twenty one to one. The dice are thrown on the table,
- 4:19Speaker 2: and every decision is from the Lord Proverbs sixteen thirty three.
- 4:23Speaker 2: We're supposed to say, according to James for fifteen, if
- 4:27Speaker 2: the Lord wills, we will live and do this, or
- 4:31Speaker 2: that everything that happens is planned and governed by the
- 4:36Speaker 2: sovereign will of God, if he's ins one eleven Isaiah
- 4:39Speaker 2: forty six', ten which means that we will not be
- 4:43Speaker 2: able to understand The bible if we reject the reality
- 4:50Speaker 2: That god can will that sin come to pass without
- 4:56Speaker 2: himself being. Sinful we may not under understand all the
- 5:01Speaker 2: psychological dynamics of how he can do, that but that
- 5:06Speaker 2: he does it is taught throughout The. Bible so it's
- 5:10Speaker 2: plain that the biblical phrase will Of god does have
- 5:16Speaker 2: at least two distinct. Meanings in The, bible one is
- 5:21Speaker 2: his sovereign, will by which everything comes to pass Ef
- 5:25Speaker 2: hesians one to. Eleven the other is his revealed, will
- 5:29Speaker 2: or his will of, command by which he tells us
- 5:34Speaker 2: what we ought to, do for, example thou shalt not.
- 5:36Speaker 2: Murder and the biblical teaching is That god is not
- 5:40Speaker 2: sinful when his sovereign will decrees that a person act
- 5:47Speaker 2: contrary to his revealed. Will so our young friend is,
- 5:52Speaker 2: asking in view of her friend's tragic, murder how CAN
- 5:59Speaker 2: i turn to The lord for comfort and understanding in my?
- 6:03Speaker 2: Grief and here's my counsel to this young. Woman, first
- 6:12Speaker 2: realized that this murder was evil and should be called
- 6:16Speaker 2: evil and. Unjust don't whitewash. It, no theology Of god's
- 6:24Speaker 2: sovereignty requires that you minimize the. Evil, second believe that
- 6:30Speaker 2: it was indeed contrary To god's commendment not to. Murder
- 6:35Speaker 2: god's law was. Broken, third weep with those who Weep
- 6:42Speaker 2: romans twelve. Fifteen, fourth grieve in your own, heart but
- 6:49Speaker 2: not as those who have no Hope First thessalonians four. Thirteen,
- 6:56Speaker 2: fifth Embrace god's promise for you and your friend's. Family
- 7:03Speaker 2: The lord is near the broken hearted and saves the
- 7:07Speaker 2: crushed in. Spirit embrace that promise he is near Psal
- 7:13Speaker 2: i'm thirty four eighteen. Sixth embrace the promise that The
- 7:18Speaker 2: lord will strengthen you and help you and hold you
- 7:22Speaker 2: up in your Sorrow isaiah forty one ten. Seventh take
- 7:28Speaker 2: hold Of romans eight twenty, eight and with all its,
- 7:32Speaker 2: mysteries believe. It take your stand on it as a solid.
- 7:37Speaker 2: Foundation while everything is, Shaking god works everything together for
- 7:43Speaker 2: good for those who Love him and are called according
- 7:47Speaker 2: To his. Purpose god, will in fact make this great
- 7:51Speaker 2: evil serve some righteous and good, outcomes most of which
- 7:59Speaker 2: you will not see until you no longer look through
- 8:03Speaker 2: a glass.
- 8:04Speaker 1: Darkly.
- 8:06Speaker 2: Eight take hold of the promise that even evils that
- 8:11Speaker 2: result in death are seized By, god made to serve
- 8:17Speaker 2: his eternal purposes of Glory Tewod corinthians four. Seventeen this
- 8:23Speaker 2: affliction is preparing for you an eternal weight of glory
- 8:29Speaker 2: beyond all. Comparison as you look not to the things
- 8:33Speaker 2: that are, seen but the things that are, Unseen for
- 8:36Speaker 2: the things that are seen are, transient but the things
- 8:39Speaker 2: that are unseen are. Eternal so open your heart to
- 8:43Speaker 2: eternity and do not treat it as insignificant or far.
- 8:48Speaker 2: Away if. Not god's eternal purposes are precious and more
- 8:54Speaker 2: important than his temporal. Purposes and take to heart that
- 9:04Speaker 2: this eternal glory will include the end of all sorrow.
- 9:09Speaker 2: Totally he will wipe away every tear from your. Eyes
- 9:13Speaker 2: deaths shall be no, more neither shall there be, mourning nor,
- 9:16Speaker 2: crying nor pain any, more for the former things have
- 9:19Speaker 2: passed Away revelation twenty one to. Four and finally return
- 9:27Speaker 2: To acts four twenty, seven Where god planned the murder
- 9:33Speaker 2: Of jesus from all. Eternity and, remember this was his,
- 9:39Speaker 2: Son this was his, son and he did it to
- 9:43Speaker 2: save his, enemies namely. Us so, amazingly the clearest place
- 9:51Speaker 2: in The bible Where god's sovereign will decrees that his
- 9:57Speaker 2: revealed will be broken is the place Where he saved
- 10:02Speaker 2: sinners for breaking his revealed. Will and he does it
- 10:08Speaker 2: by enduring our punishment for.
- 10:11Speaker 1: Us, yeah, paradox almost impossible to wrap our minds. Around
- 10:16Speaker 1: how Can god be in control of a world where
- 10:18Speaker 1: such horrific things? Happen but as hard as that, Is
- 10:21Speaker 1: scripture teaches us That god will that his son be
- 10:24Speaker 1: murdered so that we might be saved even if we
- 10:27Speaker 1: are murderers profound. Grace obviously we don't get all the
- 10:32Speaker 1: answers in this, life but in times of, grief the
- 10:34Speaker 1: comfort doesn't come from pretending that evil isn't there or
- 10:38Speaker 1: acting Like god is helpless in the. Situation that's just false.
- 10:41Speaker 1: Comforts and if you've not Heard Pastor john speak about
- 10:45Speaker 1: sufferings screaming, witness the screaming witness of suffering to the
- 10:51Speaker 1: cosmic rupture that's happened between us And god by our,
- 10:54Speaker 1: sin oh, my that's one of those things THAT i
- 10:56Speaker 1: just want to put as a footnote that will change
- 10:58Speaker 1: your whole worldview on this topic as. Well for more
- 11:01Speaker 1: on suffering screaming, witness see The Aspestor John book on
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