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Speaker 1: The Large Nerdron Collider Podcast is a production of I
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Speaker 1: Heart Radio. Hey everybody, Welcome to the Large Nerdron Collider Podcast,
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Speaker 1: the podcast that's all about the geeky things happening in
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Speaker 1: the world around us and how very excited we are
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Speaker 1: about them. I'm Ariel casting and with me, as always
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Speaker 1: is Jonathan Strickland great Googly. So, Ariel, I got a
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Speaker 1: question for you. Your question this week is would you
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Speaker 1: go to space if someone paid for your trip? M M.
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Speaker 1: You said this will be an easy one. I said
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Speaker 1: it would be a yes or no. It really depends
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Speaker 1: on when and I'm being asked to go to space
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Speaker 1: for payment. Um, Actually, we hadn't. We hadn't a news
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Speaker 1: article about this recently. I don't think we talked about
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Speaker 1: it about a movie studio being set up in outer space.
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Speaker 1: I don't think where space travel is currently. I would
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Speaker 1: do it, like it takes so much training. It would
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Speaker 1: be cool, but like there's so much training and there's
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Speaker 1: so much danger still involved with it. I don't know
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Speaker 1: that it would be worth the trouble for me. Would
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Speaker 1: you do one of those trips where they go up
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Speaker 1: to the edge of space and then come back down
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Speaker 1: Allah Blue Origin, like Jeff Bezos, did you know, I
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Speaker 1: don't know. I get really motion sick, Jonathan. So yeah,
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Speaker 1: that's probably not the right choice for you. Then it
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Speaker 1: would be it would be a yet another trip aboard
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Speaker 1: the vomit comment. Yes, and and like the thing is
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Speaker 1: so with like with the studio, they're making an outer
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Speaker 1: space and theory, Like you could go up there and
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Speaker 1: then you don't have to be on that up and
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Speaker 1: down vomit comment to film your space stuff. But that's
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Speaker 1: so much more of a time commitment and then jumping
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Speaker 1: on a really crazy scary plane for a day or two.
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Speaker 1: So I think right now, if it were tomorrow, it
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Speaker 1: would be a pass. Now, Like, I'm sure there's an
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Speaker 1: amount of money you could pay me that would break
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Speaker 1: that threshold. Well, I'm just talking about them footing the
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Speaker 1: bill for you to go, as opposed to pay No, no, no, no,
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Speaker 1: no no no, what about you, Jonathan. I mean, if
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Speaker 1: someone wants to cough up the tens of thousands of
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Speaker 1: dollars that would take for me to get a ticket
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Speaker 1: on one of those darned things, absolutely, I'd do it.
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Speaker 1: Awesome you could take pictures and share your experience, Yes,
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Speaker 1: I can I can look at the curvature of the
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Speaker 1: world and talk about what a life changing experience that is,
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Speaker 1: because that's what we often hear when people come back.
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Speaker 1: I actually know someone. They don't like the term space tourist,
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Speaker 1: but I know someone who went to the International Space
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Speaker 1: Station as a private citizen. So one of seven. One
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Speaker 1: of seven people who did it, oh yeah, yeah, spent
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Speaker 1: spent millions of dollars to do it was Richard Garriott
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Speaker 1: a k a. Lord British of The Ultimate Series. Yes,
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Speaker 1: you see, like I have no doubt that it is
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Speaker 1: life changing and awe inspiring. But yeah, between my motion
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Speaker 1: sickness and my fear of heights, like I'm afraid of heights,
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Speaker 1: re entry would be torture. Yeah, no, that's that's legit. Like,
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Speaker 1: you know, you this is something it might be a
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Speaker 1: life changing experience, but if it's something that ends up
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Speaker 1: making you, you know, feel absolutely miserable, then clearly you
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Speaker 1: don't really want to put yourself through that, and you
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Speaker 1: definitely don't want to think about, you know, having to
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Speaker 1: pay tens of thousands of dollars in order to feel
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Speaker 1: that miserable. I can feel that miserable for free down here. Yeah, Yeah. Now,
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Speaker 1: if Doctor Who showed up and took me to outer
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Speaker 1: space one thousand percent, I'd go because that takes care
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Speaker 1: of all that like takeoff and re entry stuff. Well,
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Speaker 1: first of all, they're the Doctor, not Doctor Who. I
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Speaker 1: know that, Jonathan, but clarify. I wanted to clarify for
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Speaker 1: people who maybe did not know who are listening what
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Speaker 1: doctor doctor Shivago like that would really show a listen
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Speaker 1: to Doctor strange Um also in the news right now.
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Speaker 1: But no. The reason who also who would also take
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Speaker 1: care of the takeoff and re entry. But the reason
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Speaker 1: Aiel brought that up, obviously is because our our leadoff
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Speaker 1: story is that the BBC have revealed who will be
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Speaker 1: playing the next incarnation of the Doctor in the long
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Speaker 1: running science fiction series Doctor Who. Yes, and that would
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Speaker 1: be Shooty Goatwa. He apparently is an actor from Sex Education.
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Speaker 1: I'm not familiar with him as an actor, but everybody's
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Speaker 1: really excited. Yes, and he's the first person of color
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Speaker 1: to be named to play the Doctor. So you know,
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Speaker 1: we've had We've had the first woman doctor and now
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Speaker 1: the first person of color to be named the Doctor.
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Speaker 1: So it's it's interesting to see. Uh, the BBC continue
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Speaker 1: to to experiment with that and push with that, because
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Speaker 1: this is something where I think, like a generation ago,
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Speaker 1: you would have seen a lot of frankly pretty racist
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Speaker 1: and or misogynist reactions to that kind of announcement, right
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Speaker 1: like you would have fans who and you still do
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Speaker 1: to this day, but if you go back twenty years
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Speaker 1: it would be way worse, where you have fans arguing that, no,
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Speaker 1: the doctor has to be white and male for some reason.
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Speaker 1: And fortunately, at least the reactions I have seen have
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Speaker 1: not gone down that pathway. Yeah. Yeah, now I will
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Speaker 1: say he is the first person to be um like
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Speaker 1: fully the doctor. We have had a black woman play
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Speaker 1: the fugitive doctor, but as a tertiary character, so there
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Speaker 1: is that clarification in case anybody is kind of like
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Speaker 1: doctor incarnations lawyering. Honestly, my only hesitancy with this casting
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Speaker 1: is it's another young actor and like he's he's I
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Speaker 1: think twenty nine, and like Matt Smith was okay as
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Speaker 1: a doctor, he was also very young when he was cast,
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Speaker 1: and he also had kind of this weird, bizarre alien look,
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Speaker 1: so it worked. But I just like my doctor is
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Speaker 1: a little older. I think, you know, I like my
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Speaker 1: Doctor's a little bit older. I just want to use
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Speaker 1: your love. But I did see a picture with Shooty
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Speaker 1: in glasses uh, and he looked much more of the
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Speaker 1: part that way, So I don't know if that's a
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Speaker 1: part of his costume or just somebody saying, oh hey,
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Speaker 1: look yeah. I can't wait to see the YouTube video
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Speaker 1: that will eventually come out that shows the transition from
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Speaker 1: the current doctor to two shooting, because that's how I
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Speaker 1: consume Doctor Who. I don't watch the show. I just
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Speaker 1: watched the little video clips occasionally because I tried. I
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Speaker 1: tried real hard to get into Doctor Who. I mean
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Speaker 1: I I tried for multiple see. I got all the
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Speaker 1: way to Matt Smith, and eventually I just said, you
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Speaker 1: know what, this is too much effort and I'm not
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Speaker 1: enjoying it, and I got out. I understand it's it's
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Speaker 1: you definitely have to love it, and there are lots
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Speaker 1: of good episodes mixed in with lots of bad episodes,
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Speaker 1: and it's not season by season or series by series
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Speaker 1: if you're going the British way. I haven't watched the
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Speaker 1: last season maybe season or two season and a half
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Speaker 1: of Jody Whittaker. I like her. I think she's a
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Speaker 1: good doctor. I think that when I watched her first season,
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Speaker 1: she was a little too flawless, and it kind of
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Speaker 1: turned me off a little bit because I like I
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Speaker 1: like my doctors being deeply flaw odd U as well,
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Speaker 1: what's wrong? What's wrong with me? So now I've got
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Speaker 1: to catch up because I am absolutely excited about the
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Speaker 1: new doctor and wrestle t babies coming back and need
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Speaker 1: to catch up. Are you also excited for the eventual
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Speaker 1: release of a Quantum Leap reboot? Yes? Yes, yes, yes, okay.
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Speaker 1: That was That was much clearer than whether or not
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Speaker 1: you wanted to go to space. I well, so I
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Speaker 1: watched Quantum Leap back in the day and I remember
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Speaker 1: enjoying it, but I can't remember a whole lot of
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Speaker 1: the plot anymore. Oh boy. So uh but that's okay
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Speaker 1: because apparently this series picks up where the old one
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Speaker 1: left off, and uh, well, not entirely. It's in the future,
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Speaker 1: but they're picking up the project, so I'm sure they'll
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Speaker 1: explain it. Uh. Scott Baculo, who was connected with the
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Speaker 1: friend he played the main character in the original Quantum Leap,
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Speaker 1: is not involved in this version at all. Um, So
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Speaker 1: I'm guessing that we're not going to get any updates
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Speaker 1: on his character because spoiler for anyone who hasn't watched
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Speaker 1: the original Quantum Leap and they really want to, the
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Speaker 1: last episode has him leaping yet again, and the implication
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Speaker 1: is that he's never going to be able to return home.
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Speaker 1: He's just going to be leaping forever um, which was
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Speaker 1: kind of a bummer for anyone who really was into
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Speaker 1: that show. It was one of those where the season
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Speaker 1: finale really was kind of a bummer. Um not something
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Speaker 1: you typically find on American TV. But yes, the reboot
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Speaker 1: is going to start Raymond Lee in the main character.
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Speaker 1: And if you aren't familiar with Quantum Leap, the premises
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Speaker 1: that the main character leaps into the body of a
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Speaker 1: person sin in history and until they are able to
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Speaker 1: resolve something in that person's life, uh, they are stuck
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Speaker 1: there and then once they do resolve it, they then
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Speaker 1: leap to a different person and they just in the
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Speaker 1: original one. The idea was that he keeps leaping in
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Speaker 1: an attempt to return home, while meanwhile, people back in
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Speaker 1: his original timeline who can communicate with them are trying
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Speaker 1: to help him out. So we'll have to see whether
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Speaker 1: or not the new version, you know, stays kind of
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Speaker 1: faithful to that one, or if they will take a
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Speaker 1: different tack on it. I'm excited because Ernie Hudson's in it.
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Speaker 1: Oh I love Ernie Hudson. Yeah, no, I will. This
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Speaker 1: is definitely a rebrand that I will watch, um, a redo,
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Speaker 1: a reboot, read, can't whatever. I will watch this new
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Speaker 1: series when it comes out and give it a shot.
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Speaker 1: Um something else that I'm going to have to watch.
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Speaker 1: My husband already told me that we can't be traveling
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Speaker 1: or doing anything else on this day, which is September nine,
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Speaker 1: because season five of Cobra Kai comes out, and generally
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Speaker 1: when a season of Cobra Kai comes out, we spend
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Speaker 1: all day on the couch eating pizza and watching it.
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Speaker 1: So um yes. And they released a trailer for season five,
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Speaker 1: which I watched not having watched seasons one through four,
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Speaker 1: and I'm pretty sure I got an idea what's going on? Yeah,
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Speaker 1: so Terry Silver from season four. Sorry, these are slight
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Speaker 1: spoilers if you haven't watched the previous seasons. Uh was
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Speaker 1: kind of uh way more successful at being a villain
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Speaker 1: than he ought to have been by the end of
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Speaker 1: the season, and so now he's back in opening up
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Speaker 1: Cobra Kaido. Jo's all over California and it's you know,
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Speaker 1: the good guys Johnny and Danny and Chosen teaming up
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Speaker 1: to stop him because his his ethics and his more
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Speaker 1: roles and what he's teaching children. It's not okay. And
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Speaker 1: Terry Silver, unlike uh John Crease, is super charming, like
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Speaker 1: he way bumped up his charisma stats, so he gets
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Speaker 1: away with it a lot more. Yeah, he's he's been
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Speaker 1: the difficulty rating on his on his roles has been
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Speaker 1: severely decreased, so he's usually able to He's really able
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Speaker 1: to make those roles over and over again. You you
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Speaker 1: would you would think that joke was really funny if
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Speaker 1: you watched the end of season four, Jonathan, was there
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Speaker 1: a d n D thing in the there is there? You?
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Speaker 1: You did an accidental pun that I'm not gonna I'm
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Speaker 1: not going to spoil it for anybody who's fully caught
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Speaker 1: up yet. Well, I think I think of Silver is
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Speaker 1: the bad guy from Creti Kid three because it's the
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Speaker 1: same he is he is, he is the same dude.
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Speaker 1: I would say watch it. I both love the show
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Speaker 1: and get incredibly frustrated by it because kids being dumb,
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Speaker 1: I get, but the adults are so thick headed that
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Speaker 1: I get really frustrated at them. But I still keep
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Speaker 1: watching the show. So this is what happens when Mr
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Speaker 1: me Aggie passes away. Yeah. Well, we have one more
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Speaker 1: news item for this section, and it's that there is, finally,
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Speaker 1: after years of delays, a trailer for the sequel to Avatar.
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Speaker 1: And I'm not talking about The Last Airbender. I'm talking
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Speaker 1: about the James Cameron Pocahonas remake with Blue People Avatar. Yeah,
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Speaker 1: so the dances with Wolves maybe. Uh this this is
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Speaker 1: called The Way of Water And I had read something
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Speaker 1: the other day that James Cameron spent a lot of
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Speaker 1: time working on water effects for the movie, like that
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Speaker 1: was his big focus. But then I watched the trailer.
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Speaker 1: I was like, could you have worked on the faces?
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Speaker 1: Some I feel like this feels and looks less real
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Speaker 1: than the original did, and the original was years ago.
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Speaker 1: Like the original, I think, yeah, the original was not
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Speaker 1: a great story. It definitely had like you watch it
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Speaker 1: the first time in the spectacle makes you go wow,
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Speaker 1: and then you watch it again the second time and
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Speaker 1: you're like, uh um, kind of like Titanic. Um, yeah,
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Speaker 1: James Cameron movie. Yeah yeah, but so for a movie
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Speaker 1: that relies so heavily on just being pretty with some
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Speaker 1: fun action sequences, I wish it were a little prettier. Yeah.
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Speaker 1: You know what, I have never seen Avatar, never had
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Speaker 1: an interest in it, never went Um. So I watched
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Speaker 1: this trailer and I thought kind of like you did.
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Speaker 1: I was like this, nothing about this makes me want
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Speaker 1: to see this. I'm not connecting with anything I'm seeing
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Speaker 1: on screen. Nothing is making me feel like, oh I
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Speaker 1: want to know what this story is. And I couldn't
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Speaker 1: shake the feeling that it looked an awful lot like
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Speaker 1: a cut scene in a PS four game, not even
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Speaker 1: a PS five game, but a PS four game. Now
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Speaker 1: that it looked bad. But like you said, it doesn't
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Speaker 1: look it doesn't look photo realistic or anything. It just
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Speaker 1: it looks like a c G I. And I get
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Speaker 1: it that it is c G I, But I mean,
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Speaker 1: if it's being presented as this, you know, supposedly epic
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Speaker 1: and amazing display of technology, it's falling way short of that.
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Speaker 1: For me. Yeah, for me too. Um, it is interesting
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Speaker 1: because I think that's where Avatar succeeds is in video games.
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Speaker 1: I remember my mom owned the We the We Pandora
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Speaker 1: Avatar game, and you'd stand on a little like WE board,
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Speaker 1: like the WE balance board, and that's how you'd fly
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Speaker 1: your I guess wrapped or whatever it's called. Um, And
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Speaker 1: that was fun. Uh. The ride at Disney, there's a
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Speaker 1: lot of fun. Yeah. I had no idea what I
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Speaker 1: was looking at, but it was fun. Yeah, just I
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Speaker 1: again technical genius and like like I I even rode
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Speaker 1: the little river ride. I had no idea what was
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Speaker 1: going on on that, but it was nice and it
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Speaker 1: was cool and it was hot outside, so I didn't
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Speaker 1: mind that I had no clue what was going on. Well,
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Speaker 1: there you go. Maybe that will be your reason to
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Speaker 1: watch Avatar Wave of Water when it comes to theaters
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Speaker 1: if it is safe to do so, because it'll be
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Speaker 1: hot outside and it will be cool in the theater.
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Speaker 1: I think it's actually supposed to come out in the winter.
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Speaker 1: So I mean, hey, climate change, you never know. Okay,
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Speaker 1: On that happy note, we're gonna take a quick break
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Speaker 1: and when we come back, we've got some video game
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Speaker 1: type stuff to chat about. Okay. So ariel Um, you
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Speaker 1: said that you you would not go up into space
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Speaker 1: right now, what about going into space in a video game?
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Speaker 1: Is that is that all right? Oh? Heck yeah, mass
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Speaker 1: effects like my favorite video game ever, and that's all
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Speaker 1: about outer space. Well what about EV online, a game
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Speaker 1: where you can sink hundreds of dollars in it and
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Speaker 1: look at lots and lots and lots of data in
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Speaker 1: order to try and minimax your experience. Absolutely not, for
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Speaker 1: multiple reasons. First of all, I don't like my games
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Speaker 1: feeling like work, and I work in enough spreadsheets that
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Speaker 1: um that's it's um no, it just doesn't appeal to me.
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Speaker 1: My my husband has played and enjoyed Evil Online, my
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Speaker 1: friends have played it, and my my dad even played
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Speaker 1: evonline for a bit. He occasionally jumps back into it,
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Speaker 1: but yeah, it's not for me. It's the entry point
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Speaker 1: is so hard. But you did mention spreadsheets, and that's
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Speaker 1: why we wanted to talk about it because recently and
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Speaker 1: the event uh, the creators of evonline revealed field that
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Speaker 1: they struck up a partnership with Microsoft specifically to incorporate
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Speaker 1: Excel spreadsheets into the EVE online experience so that it
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Speaker 1: would be easier for players to be able to judge
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Speaker 1: things when they are trying to figure out the best
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Speaker 1: strategy for their style of play, And I can kind
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Speaker 1: of understand that. Have you ever played any games areal
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Speaker 1: where like trying to keep track of items and what
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Speaker 1: they can do and what benefits they give starts to
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Speaker 1: become a really big part of the game. And like you,
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Speaker 1: I've had that with Diablo for example, where you find
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Speaker 1: loote all the time, and you're like comparing the loot
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Speaker 1: you just found with the stuff that you have on you,
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Speaker 1: and it just creates this whole level of stress where
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Speaker 1: I'm trying to figure out do I keep what I've
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Speaker 1: got on me? Do I switch it out? Have you
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Speaker 1: ever had that experience? Yeah? With Diablo, with sky Rim,
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Speaker 1: with League of Legends, even um, Yeah, anything that's got
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Speaker 1: a large inventory or crafting system starts to feel like
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Speaker 1: work for me, even a mass effect to a degree,
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Speaker 1: if you give me too many weapons options, I just
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Speaker 1: start plaze over. Yeah. So that's kind of what the
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Speaker 1: purpose of this partnership is is to create a way
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Speaker 1: that players can more quickly assess uh they're they're various
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Speaker 1: options before they commit to them in an effort to
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Speaker 1: get better at the game. The idea was to try
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Speaker 1: and level out the playing field a bit because there
19:37
Speaker 1: was such a huge gap between new players to the
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Speaker 1: game and veterans. The veterans who had through experience really
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Speaker 1: hashed out what works and what doesn't work, which gives
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Speaker 1: new players like next to no chance of having any
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Speaker 1: success in the game. This was sort of a way
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Speaker 1: of dealing with that. And I'm thinking, if the solution
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Speaker 1: to the skill gap in your game is to introduce spreadsheets,
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Speaker 1: I'm out. Yeah, same here. Some people really enjoy it,
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Speaker 1: and if they do, as the mcarroy brothers would say,
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Speaker 1: I'm not going to yuck there, yung, but yeah, but yeah,
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Speaker 1: I will pass. Well, let me ask you about something else.
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Speaker 1: There's an upcoming mockumentary, so not a real documentary, a
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Speaker 1: mock documentary called Players that's going to air on Paramount
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Speaker 1: Plus or stream. I suppose listen to me like Ancient.
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Speaker 1: It airs on Paramount plush um and it's it's following
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Speaker 1: the story of various fictional professional gamers in an e
20:48
Speaker 1: sports tournament league. Why do you think about that? Is
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Speaker 1: that something you might be interested in? I was until
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Speaker 1: I watched the trailers, so um, I like sports. I've
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Speaker 1: watched plenty of it with Diablo, with StarCraft, um, and
21:04
Speaker 1: in fact with League of Legends, which is what this
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Speaker 1: mockumentary is about. I've actually gone to League of Legends
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Speaker 1: tournaments live Downtown because some of my favorite twitch streamers
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Speaker 1: were playing slash um announcing there, and I have friends
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Speaker 1: who I have a few friends even who announced, although
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Speaker 1: not not for League of Legends. I don't think anymore.
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Speaker 1: But um, but I feel like League of Legends has
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Speaker 1: already had its heyday, like a while ago and when
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Speaker 1: I watched. But that's okay because it's supposed to be
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Speaker 1: a funny mockumentary and I love those sort of things. Um,
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Speaker 1: if you look at like Spinal Tap or Waiting for
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Speaker 1: Guffman or any of those things, except for this one,
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Speaker 1: just didn't actually strike me as funny. What about you, Jonathan,
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Speaker 1: I kind of feel the same way you do. There
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Speaker 1: are moments that are clearly like little comedic beats in
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Speaker 1: the trailer, but it's nowhere near the level of absurdity
22:05
Speaker 1: or comedy that you get in something like this is
22:08
Speaker 1: Spinal Tap or Best of Show or The Mighty Wind,
22:13
Speaker 1: you know all of those where Christopher Guest is in them. Um,
22:18
Speaker 1: those those are all masterpieces. They are are brilliant satire
22:24
Speaker 1: and parody, and this felt almost like it was just
22:30
Speaker 1: gently leaning toward that right, kind of leaning towards satire,
22:36
Speaker 1: but not committing to it. And at that point my
22:41
Speaker 1: reaction is, why not just do a real documentary about
22:44
Speaker 1: real people. If you're if you're not gonna you know,
22:47
Speaker 1: amp it up for the sake of entertainment and comedy,
22:53
Speaker 1: then just do a documentary. It doesn't make sense. And
22:56
Speaker 1: I get the idea of they don't want to turn
23:00
Speaker 1: sports into a joke because a lot of people dismiss
23:04
Speaker 1: e sports and you don't want to continue that trend.
23:07
Speaker 1: Totally respect that, but you can still make characters who
23:12
Speaker 1: are you know, larger than life and very silly, And
23:15
Speaker 1: there were bits of that in the trailer, but like you, Ariel,
23:18
Speaker 1: none of it, none of it struck me as particularly
23:21
Speaker 1: effective from a comedy standpoint. Yeah, yeah, it wasn't. It
23:26
Speaker 1: wasn't laughing for the at the underdog or for the underdog,
23:29
Speaker 1: and it wasn't laughing at the toxic behavior. It just
23:32
Speaker 1: felt like a bad prank show level comedy to me. Yeah,
23:37
Speaker 1: I guess um, except not even as creative as that,
23:41
Speaker 1: Like Yeah, like, there there are bits that you that
23:44
Speaker 1: I feel are supposed to be funnier than they are,
23:49
Speaker 1: But I don't know. It didn't work for me either.
23:52
Speaker 1: I don't have Paramount Plus. This is not the kind
23:55
Speaker 1: of title that would convince me that I need to
23:58
Speaker 1: get it. There are other titles where I've felt the
24:02
Speaker 1: pull to get Paramount Plus so I can watch it,
24:05
Speaker 1: but this would not be one of them. Well, Jonathan,
24:08
Speaker 1: you've now route my plan, which is to make you
24:10
Speaker 1: watch The Lost City of d this week because it's
24:12
Speaker 1: out on Paramount Plus. Um, that's okay, that's the that's
24:16
Speaker 1: the Romancing the Stone movie. Yeah, with Daniel Radcliffe as
24:21
Speaker 1: the bad guy. Yeah, and Sandra click In Channing. I
24:24
Speaker 1: would I would happily watch a master cut of just
24:27
Speaker 1: all the Daniel Radcliffe scenes. I mean that is that
24:32
Speaker 1: is very truthful. But I think Channing Tatum is quite
24:34
Speaker 1: funny too, So I I don't I don't disagree. I
24:38
Speaker 1: just like I don't feel like I want to commit
24:41
Speaker 1: to watching the whole movie, but I would like to
24:44
Speaker 1: watch Daniel Radcliffe be a bad guy. That I mean,
24:47
Speaker 1: that makes sense. That makes sense. Um, we do have
24:51
Speaker 1: one more story. Would you would you watch or play
24:56
Speaker 1: Gotham Knights. Well, that's that's the best segue. That's a
25:00
Speaker 1: great question, Arial, because those are two different things with
25:04
Speaker 1: the same title. Uh yeah. So the video game part
25:08
Speaker 1: is that there is a Gotham Knights video game that's
25:10
Speaker 1: coming out. Recently. There was a release of like thirteen
25:14
Speaker 1: minutes of gameplay footage. I originally even linked to that
25:19
Speaker 1: in our show notes, but decided to delete it because
25:21
Speaker 1: I didn't want to make Ariel have to watch a
25:22
Speaker 1: thirteen minute long video about a video game that's essentially
25:28
Speaker 1: a continuation of the Arkham Knight kind of gameplay. So,
25:33
Speaker 1: first of all, my husband just finished Batman origins um,
25:37
Speaker 1: like just finished it that which I bought for him
25:40
Speaker 1: for the holidays like years ago. But regardless, I actually
25:45
Speaker 1: really like the concept in the art and um what
25:50
Speaker 1: I've seen of Gotham Knights so far, personally, I kind
25:53
Speaker 1: of want to play it. I think the Court of
25:55
Speaker 1: Owls is scary and looks good. Yeah, the Court of
25:58
Speaker 1: Owls are the villain in the Gotham Knights game. The
26:02
Speaker 1: premise is that Batman has been killed by the Court
26:06
Speaker 1: of Owls. Um at least apparently has been killed by them,
26:11
Speaker 1: and it falls to Batwoman and Robin and Nightwing and
26:18
Speaker 1: the Red Hood two kind of investigate the Court of
26:22
Speaker 1: Owls and fight crime and that kind of stuff. The
26:26
Speaker 1: gameplay stuff was fine, Uh, I thought that the abilities
26:32
Speaker 1: were ridiculous, Like there's no in game explanation of how
26:35
Speaker 1: some of these work because they're just so like ludicrous
26:41
Speaker 1: and overpowered. Night Wing jumps off a building and then
26:45
Speaker 1: just magically has a robotic hang lighter that he gets
26:48
Speaker 1: to fly on. Um. He hangs from it, but it's
26:51
Speaker 1: like it's not it's not coming from his costume, it
26:54
Speaker 1: doesn't appear to be anywhere around him. He just jumps
26:57
Speaker 1: off the building, lifts up his arms, and next thing
26:59
Speaker 1: you know, he's being on to a robotic flying hang
27:03
Speaker 1: glider that can take into distant locations. Um. Whereas Red
27:09
Speaker 1: Hood can just jump in the air and and bounce
27:12
Speaker 1: off little mystical platforms that appear in the so he
27:15
Speaker 1: can jump from building to building, like even if the
27:17
Speaker 1: buildings are hundreds of feet apart, he just bounces on
27:22
Speaker 1: this little mystical like platform. I forget what they called
27:25
Speaker 1: it in the gameplay thing, but I looked at and like,
27:27
Speaker 1: this is all of This is so ludicrous to me
27:30
Speaker 1: for characters that are supposed to be human beings who
27:34
Speaker 1: rely on their skill and a few gadgets to do
27:37
Speaker 1: what they do. But anyway, uh. One of the news
27:41
Speaker 1: stories is that this game was originally supposed to be
27:46
Speaker 1: cross generational for consoles, meaning it was gonna come out
27:49
Speaker 1: for the Xbox One and the P S four as
27:52
Speaker 1: well as the Xbox Series X or S and the
27:56
Speaker 1: the PS five. Well, now the previous generation has been dropped,
28:01
Speaker 1: there's no longer going to be support for those. This
28:04
Speaker 1: might be because this game has been running uh past
28:09
Speaker 1: deadline for a while now, and this is possibly a
28:13
Speaker 1: way to simplify the workflow. Also, it means that they
28:16
Speaker 1: don't have to compromise on graphics and things like that.
28:20
Speaker 1: Uh and can you know, create the game that they want.
28:23
Speaker 1: But I'm sure for those who are still struggling to
28:26
Speaker 1: find a current generation console and who we're planning on
28:30
Speaker 1: playing it on their older one, this comes as a disappointment.
28:34
Speaker 1: But the other thing I wanted to mention is that
28:37
Speaker 1: the CW is going to have a Gotham Knights television show.
28:41
Speaker 1: That the only common thread between the television show and
28:46
Speaker 1: the video game that also is called Gotham Knights. Is
28:49
Speaker 1: that Bruce Wayne slash Batman has died. That's it. The
28:55
Speaker 1: characters in the Gotham Knights TV show are a totally
28:58
Speaker 1: different group of characters. Uh, You've got a couple of
29:02
Speaker 1: of siblings who are the children of a of a criminal,
29:08
Speaker 1: but he's not like one of Batman's big villains. You've
29:13
Speaker 1: got dou La Dent, who, depending on which version of
29:17
Speaker 1: the comics you're reading, is one of the Batman's villains kids,
29:21
Speaker 1: or at least she claims to be. She's claimed to
29:23
Speaker 1: be the Riddler's daughter, the Joker's daughter, two Faces daughter. Yeah,
29:28
Speaker 1: that's why it's Dent in his last name. And then um,
29:32
Speaker 1: the fourth member is the female version of Robin, who
29:36
Speaker 1: was introduced in Frank Miller's The Dark Night graphic novel
29:41
Speaker 1: and comic books. So it's just weird to me that
29:46
Speaker 1: we've got to Gotham Nights projects coming out both based
29:51
Speaker 1: on the premise of Bruce Wayne slash Batman dying and
29:54
Speaker 1: these people kind of taking up the mantle. But it's
29:58
Speaker 1: a totally different group in each kid and there's no
30:00
Speaker 1: other connective tissue between them. Thanks d C. Yeah, you
30:06
Speaker 1: made it really really easy to follow you. Yeah, I'm
30:11
Speaker 1: also sad because I wanted to play Gotham Nights and
30:14
Speaker 1: now I can't because I only have an Xbox One
30:16
Speaker 1: at a p S four. Life is so hard. Same.
30:20
Speaker 1: I've also only got an Xbox One and PS four.
30:22
Speaker 1: I I once got a chance to try and buy
30:25
Speaker 1: a PS five, like Sony contacted me and said, hey,
30:30
Speaker 1: make sure you log on at this time, And I
30:33
Speaker 1: got on one minute passed when it started, and I
30:38
Speaker 1: was somewhere like a thousand people back in the queue,
30:42
Speaker 1: and by the time it got to me, all of
30:44
Speaker 1: them had sold out. Of course, it didn't tell me
30:46
Speaker 1: that until it finally became my turn, So I sat
30:49
Speaker 1: for an hour and a half on hold. Essentially. Yeah,
30:52
Speaker 1: fun times. It's also hard because like we have the
30:57
Speaker 1: Xbox One and we have the PS four, we still
30:59
Speaker 1: have a games on those that we want to play.
31:01
Speaker 1: I still have the three sixty upstairs. Um, but I like,
31:06
Speaker 1: I don't know, it's hard for me to change up
31:08
Speaker 1: consoles so often when I have a hard time completing
31:11
Speaker 1: the games that I already want to play on the
31:13
Speaker 1: old ones. Yeah that's fair. Well, we can probably chat
31:17
Speaker 1: about this for ages, but we need to take a
31:19
Speaker 1: break and when we come back, once I fire up
31:22
Speaker 1: my Sega Dreamcast, we can then talk about the mashups
31:27
Speaker 1: that we've done for this week. How's that Sega Dreamcast
31:45
Speaker 1: coming along, Johnathan. It's awesome because it connects to a
31:49
Speaker 1: television through a coaxial cable, which means I don't even
31:52
Speaker 1: have to have an adapter to use it on my television.
31:56
Speaker 1: What do you wait, I what kind of TV do
31:59
Speaker 1: you have of a television that has a coax input?
32:03
Speaker 1: Like coax in coax inputs are no? I was I
32:08
Speaker 1: was thinking was the component gables? Yes? Yeah? No that yeah, no,
32:14
Speaker 1: those days are long gone. Well, we wanted to talk
32:18
Speaker 1: a bit about the the properties we chose for our
32:22
Speaker 1: mash up, one of which is wonder Woman, and the
32:26
Speaker 1: reason for choosing that one actually comes courtesy of some
32:30
Speaker 1: sad news. Yeah. George Perez passed away recently. Um. He
32:36
Speaker 1: was a comic artist who was very popular for Teen
32:40
Speaker 1: Titans and Wonder Woman and Avengers and did a lot
32:46
Speaker 1: of really cool stuff in comics. Apparently he was a
32:48
Speaker 1: really nice guy. I know a lot of my friends
32:50
Speaker 1: in the convention circuit really loved him. Um, so, that's
32:54
Speaker 1: very sad news. Yes, and uh so, wonder Woman is
32:59
Speaker 1: one of our choices. And uh for those who don't
33:03
Speaker 1: know who wonder Woman is, do you want to give
33:05
Speaker 1: a quick rundown on that? Areal? Sure, she is a
33:09
Speaker 1: DC superhero. She is an Amazon from the Island of
33:11
Speaker 1: them Scara. She's the daughter of Harra. She was made
33:15
Speaker 1: from clay um and she's super strong, she's super smart,
33:18
Speaker 1: and she's got like depending on the version of of
33:23
Speaker 1: um Wonder Woman, she's got like cool gadgets, like a
33:26
Speaker 1: Lasso of Truth or like really cool bracers that can
33:28
Speaker 1: deflect bullets, or like a boomerang Tiara. That's going back
33:31
Speaker 1: to the Linda Carter version um an invisible jet. She's Yeah,
33:36
Speaker 1: she's just she's super awesome and sometimes she's really really nice.
33:39
Speaker 1: Like if you watch the most recent wonder Woman or
33:42
Speaker 1: wonder Woman, it's eighty four most recent the most recent too,
33:47
Speaker 1: wonder Woman's which I'm not suggesting that you do that.
33:50
Speaker 1: I don't think they were fantastic movies, but I think
33:52
Speaker 1: that Galgondy played a very wonder wonderful version of wonder Woman. Yeah,
33:56
Speaker 1: I think the first wonder Woman film is pretty good.
34:00
Speaker 1: I think of it kind of like the first Captain
34:02
Speaker 1: America movie, where if you watch acts one and two
34:07
Speaker 1: of the original Wonder Woman movie, you're good. You can
34:10
Speaker 1: walk away. You do not need to watch Act three
34:13
Speaker 1: because that's where it all falls apart where she actually
34:15
Speaker 1: has to fight aries um, because that's where the movie
34:19
Speaker 1: ends up being not so great. But the first bit
34:22
Speaker 1: where it's all in World War one, that's all amazing. Yeah.
34:26
Speaker 1: And then there are certain versions of wonder Woman where
34:28
Speaker 1: like if you if you watch some of the DC
34:30
Speaker 1: animated stuff, she's much more warrior, she's um more hardened
34:35
Speaker 1: and like war Warren. I guess, so it's it's she's
34:39
Speaker 1: more like lawful neutral as opposed to lawful good. In
34:43
Speaker 1: those I would say, um, but still just completely completely amazing,
34:48
Speaker 1: strong female superhero character. That's not where Wonder Woman's origins
34:52
Speaker 1: originally came from, but it's where she really took off.
34:56
Speaker 1: And um yeah, yeah, there's just several different versions, just
35:01
Speaker 1: like all the DC heroes have different variations. But yeah,
35:06
Speaker 1: so that's wonder Woman. Our second property that we're using
35:11
Speaker 1: is Alice, as in Alice in Wonderland and through the
35:14
Speaker 1: Looking Glass. Uh, creations of Lewis Carroll stories that involve
35:20
Speaker 1: a lot of wordplay and puns and nonsense and absurdity
35:25
Speaker 1: about a little girl named Alice going through these very
35:29
Speaker 1: kind of almost like stream of consciousness adventures. Like I
35:34
Speaker 1: don't know if you've read the books, but they the
35:40
Speaker 1: books are are really bonkers. The books are really strange,
35:44
Speaker 1: um in a great way. Like you get into these
35:47
Speaker 1: passages where characters are just being uh frustratingly contrary for
35:55
Speaker 1: no apparent reason, or they're playing with language in a
35:58
Speaker 1: particular way. My favorite being Humpty Dumpty, who once makes
36:02
Speaker 1: the statement about language can mean anything he wants it
36:06
Speaker 1: to mean, and Alice says, like, the question is can
36:11
Speaker 1: you make words mean whatever you want? And he says,
36:14
Speaker 1: the question is who's to be the master? That's all?
36:17
Speaker 1: Do you let the language boss you around? Or do
36:19
Speaker 1: you boss the language around? I'm like, oh, I love that.
36:22
Speaker 1: That attitude doesn't work if you're trying to communicate to someone,
36:25
Speaker 1: but it is it is very very much a me
36:28
Speaker 1: kind of thing to say. So, um, yeah, so we're
36:32
Speaker 1: mashing up those two. Yeah. I like Alison Wonderland. I've
36:36
Speaker 1: read the books. My favorite version is the television mini series,
36:41
Speaker 1: but they did with Carol Channing and John Stamos, and right,
36:45
Speaker 1: that was such a weird one because that was they
36:47
Speaker 1: did both Wonderland and Through the looking Glass, because Carol
36:50
Speaker 1: Channing played the White Queen. I want to say, which
36:53
Speaker 1: is Through the looking Glass? That's the second of the books.
36:56
Speaker 1: And I remember she's saying jam tomorrow Jam, Yes, did
37:00
Speaker 1: but never re the jam today. Yes, but that that
37:05
Speaker 1: version is really old. It the effects don't hold up,
37:08
Speaker 1: but it does go like if you've only watched the
37:11
Speaker 1: Disney versions of Alice in Wonderland, this really does pull
37:14
Speaker 1: a lot more from the book. And it also has
37:17
Speaker 1: a crazy ridiculous cast of like is that the one
37:21
Speaker 1: that has Ringo Star as the mock Turtles can't remember? Yes,
37:24
Speaker 1: it's got Shelly Winters, it's got Ringo Star, it's got
37:26
Speaker 1: bow Bridges, it's got Christopher Lloyd. I think it does.
37:30
Speaker 1: I have Christopher Lloyd. He's the Night, He's the White Knight. Yeah,
37:35
Speaker 1: I'm just just tons of people. Patrick Duffy, Sammy Davis Jr.
37:41
Speaker 1: Ernest board nine. Yeah, it's like it starts. It starts
37:44
Speaker 1: us on like a variety show when you start baming
37:47
Speaker 1: it or like a like one of those telethons or something. Yeah,
37:51
Speaker 1: but it's a really fun version. Um, it's really bizarre.
37:55
Speaker 1: That being said, I totally went closer to the Disney
37:58
Speaker 1: version just out of ease. Uh mine, Uh well, we'll
38:04
Speaker 1: get to mine. Okay, do you want me to go first?
38:08
Speaker 1: Then I can go first if you would like. Uh, now,
38:12
Speaker 1: I think I think yours is gonna be is gonna
38:15
Speaker 1: be better than I. You go ahead, then I love
38:19
Speaker 1: how sometimes they're like, mine's gonna be worse. No, mine's
38:22
Speaker 1: gonna be worse. No, Mine's fine. Um it's called wonder
38:25
Speaker 1: woman Land because honestly, the only reason I picked ales
38:28
Speaker 1: in Wonderland is because it had wonder in it and
38:30
Speaker 1: wonder Woman had wonder in it. So uh yeah, Okay.
38:34
Speaker 1: Early one morning, Princess Diana ak wonder Woman, was awoken
38:38
Speaker 1: by a knock at the door of her New York
38:40
Speaker 1: apartment high rise. Curious, she thought she hadn't told any
38:44
Speaker 1: one she would be spending time in the city. However,
38:47
Speaker 1: when Diana answered the door, there was no one there,
38:49
Speaker 1: just a delicate envelope with the name wonder Woman in
38:51
Speaker 1: curly que lettering on it. Being both early morning, and
38:55
Speaker 1: before she had had her morning tea, wonder Woman put
38:57
Speaker 1: the envelope on her kitchen island and got ready for
38:59
Speaker 1: her day. But the letter kept nagging at her in
39:01
Speaker 1: the way you get a nagging feeling when something just
39:04
Speaker 1: isn't right. So as soon as she had her tea
39:06
Speaker 1: in hand, she went to open the letter. As she
39:08
Speaker 1: tore opened the ornate envelope, a shower of rose pedals
39:10
Speaker 1: shot out and smacked Wonder Woman straight in the face.
39:13
Speaker 1: This immediately put Wonder Woman on alert, and she thought
39:16
Speaker 1: curious r and curious her, But not for long, because
39:19
Speaker 1: a rose pedal landed in her tea, which immediately got
39:21
Speaker 1: one of those Barista art sort of foam decorations on
39:24
Speaker 1: the top of it, and it said drink me. And
39:26
Speaker 1: Diana was looking around her for weak points in her
39:28
Speaker 1: high rise and didn't notice it, and she took a sip,
39:30
Speaker 1: and she quickly found herself head swimming, singing to the
39:32
Speaker 1: floor in a dream. When she awoke, she was no
39:35
Speaker 1: longer in her New York high rise apartment, but in
39:37
Speaker 1: a long hall with tiny doors. Seeing no one around,
39:40
Speaker 1: she spun into her Wonder Woman costume and started looking
39:43
Speaker 1: for an exit However, the only exits that she saw
39:46
Speaker 1: were these tiny doors, all too small for her to
39:48
Speaker 1: fit through. No worries, she thought, and she punched straight
39:51
Speaker 1: through the wall above one of the doors, creating a
39:53
Speaker 1: huge Diana sized hole into a beautiful garden. She didn't
39:57
Speaker 1: even notice the door, saying al as she stepped on
39:59
Speaker 1: its face on the way out of the room. She
40:01
Speaker 1: did notice, however, the talking flowers in the garden. And
40:04
Speaker 1: she noticed this because they all knew her secret identity
40:07
Speaker 1: and they were all talking about it incessantly. Wonder Woman
40:10
Speaker 1: took off her tiara and threw it all a boomerang
40:12
Speaker 1: style through the garden, cutting each one of the flowers
40:15
Speaker 1: off at the stem. Without their roots of knowledge, they
40:18
Speaker 1: no longer recalled who she was. But not, being a
40:21
Speaker 1: completely unbeennevolent Amazon, she gathered them all into bouquet and
40:24
Speaker 1: put them in the gardens fountains so they wouldn't perish.
40:26
Speaker 1: Upon exiting the garden and puzzling her way through the
40:29
Speaker 1: adjacent hedge maze that, of course, was there, she came
40:32
Speaker 1: across some familiar faces, or she thought they were. They
40:36
Speaker 1: were two round boys with striped shirts, one and blue
40:38
Speaker 1: and one in black, who bore an awful big resemblance
40:41
Speaker 1: to Batman and Superman. They grabbed her each by one
40:45
Speaker 1: arm and ushered her away to the tea party that
40:47
Speaker 1: she had gotten the invitation for. And when she got there,
40:50
Speaker 1: the tea party was being led by Zatana with a
40:52
Speaker 1: very oversized version of her top hat, with various other
40:56
Speaker 1: Justice League members filling other roles at the party. Wonder
40:59
Speaker 1: Woman try to ask them what was going on. Something
41:01
Speaker 1: definitely was not right, but they only shouted something about
41:04
Speaker 1: a new cup of tea and shuffled each other around
41:06
Speaker 1: the table. Wonder Woman had had enough of this ridiculousness,
41:10
Speaker 1: so she lasted the entire party with her lasso of truth,
41:13
Speaker 1: at which point they all came to out of the dream,
41:15
Speaker 1: also wondering where they were. All but one attendee, a
41:19
Speaker 1: person sized white rabbit. Diana knew this rabbit would have
41:22
Speaker 1: the answers, so she grabbed it by the scuff, which
41:24
Speaker 1: is exceptionally mean to do to rabbits, and demanded the answers.
41:29
Speaker 1: Because the white rabbit was also lassoed, it told her
41:31
Speaker 1: the truth that the Queen of Hearts, a nemesis of Batman,
41:36
Speaker 1: had elaborated this huge plan to get rid of the
41:38
Speaker 1: Justice League. Of course, thought wonder Woman. She had no
41:41
Speaker 1: idea how she hadn't puzzled that out sooner she had
41:43
Speaker 1: based the Queen of Hearts before. And that's when Wonder
41:46
Speaker 1: Woman felt a sharp pain in her arm as a
41:48
Speaker 1: cascade of deadly cards came flying through the air at
41:50
Speaker 1: the party, with the Queen of Hearts right behind. Diana
41:54
Speaker 1: quickly recovered and started deflecting the cards with her braceers
41:56
Speaker 1: why while unlassoing the group, because she can multitask like
41:59
Speaker 1: The Queen of Hearts had not expected Diana to be
42:02
Speaker 1: so prepared, and was shocked when a card deflected back
42:05
Speaker 1: at her, striking her across the shoulders and knocking her
42:07
Speaker 1: head off. Now fair, the Queen's detached head said, as
42:10
Speaker 1: she picked it up. But the distraction was long enough
42:13
Speaker 1: for Wonder Woman to lasten the Queen and render her defenseless.
42:16
Speaker 1: Finally free, the White Rabbit quickly showed the group the
42:18
Speaker 1: way out of the tea party, and soon they all
42:20
Speaker 1: found themselves in Central Park. That men took the Queen
42:23
Speaker 1: of Hearts to Arkham, where she belonged, and Wonder Woman
42:25
Speaker 1: went back to her apartment to enjoy the rest of
42:27
Speaker 1: her visit to the city in peace, vowing only to
42:30
Speaker 1: drink coffee from now on the end, I'm happy to
42:34
Speaker 1: say that our two mashups are not identical. Oh good,
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Speaker 1: here is mine. I call it Alice in wonder woman Land.
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Speaker 1: All right, Little Alice has a problem. She was sitting
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Speaker 1: along river bank with her older sister when out of nowhere,
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Speaker 1: a white magician ran by, saying I'm late, I'm late. Alice, intrigued,
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Speaker 1: followed after the white magician, leaving her sister behind, seemingly unaware,
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Speaker 1: and running after this strange man with weird hair that
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Speaker 1: you typically only see in comic books because it's a
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Speaker 1: lot like wolverines. Anyway, Alice loses sight of the white magician,
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Speaker 1: and by that time she realizes that she's in an
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Speaker 1: unfamiliar part of the countryside. She's left the river far
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Speaker 1: behind her, and she's a bit turned around. While she's
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Speaker 1: a little concerned, Alice is a brave child, and so
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Speaker 1: she decides she's on an adventure and chooses a direction
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Speaker 1: to walk in. With no particular rhyme or reason to
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Speaker 1: her choice. She walks for what feels like ours, but
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Speaker 1: is in fact seventeen minutes when she comes to a
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Speaker 1: clearing and there are adults there, but they're dressed up
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Speaker 1: in peculiar clothing. A couple of them have capes. There's
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Speaker 1: one dress like a big black mouse, and there's another
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Speaker 1: one that's in very tight blue red and a little
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Speaker 1: bit of yellow and its outfit. And there's one that's
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Speaker 1: dressed in all red with a yellow lightning bolt across
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Speaker 1: the chest. And they're deep in discussion when Alice walks
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Speaker 1: up and says, hello, I am Alice, who are you?
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Speaker 1: And the three men looked down surprised, and the red
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Speaker 1: one says, Alice, you should get out of here. It's
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Speaker 1: not safe, and Alice says, of course, it's not safe.
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Speaker 1: I'm on an adventure. And this just sort of takes
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Speaker 1: the adults off guard even more. Just at that moment,
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Speaker 1: there's a commotion across the clearing, and from the edge
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Speaker 1: of the woods across the way, Alice sees a woman
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Speaker 1: who is growing larger right before her eyes. Giganta yells
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Speaker 1: the black mouse man Alice quick run into the woods,
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Speaker 1: and Alice, ushered by the adults, decides that the woods
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Speaker 1: isn't a bad place to be, so she turns and
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Speaker 1: leaves the growing woman, now the size of the trees
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Speaker 1: themselves behind her. As the three adults seem to get
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Speaker 1: ready to have a very cross conversation with a woman
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Speaker 1: slipping around some trees, Alice encounters an odd man with
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Speaker 1: a fake looking goatee, a turban and vaguely Middle Eastern
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Speaker 1: costume that looks like it could be venturing into some
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Speaker 1: cultural appropriation trub link territory. Who are you, asks the man,
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Speaker 1: whose voice sounds quite odd. Alice, thrown off, says, I
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Speaker 1: think you want to tell me who you offered. I
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Speaker 1: am the Great hip Notta, says the man, whose facial
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Speaker 1: hair budget is just a bit, and Alice could not
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Speaker 1: help but think that this man was in disguise. Well,
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Speaker 1: Great Hypnota, if you will excuse me, I must be off.
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Speaker 1: I'm on an adventure, says Alice. And then Hipnota shoots
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Speaker 1: out this blue ray at Alice, but she's already skipped
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Speaker 1: off into the forest and so it misses her. So
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Speaker 1: Hypnota just ends up with a mind controlled squirrel, which
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Speaker 1: isn't useful because this is the DC Universe, not Marvel. Alice,
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Speaker 1: moving a bit further, comes to a glen and in
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Speaker 1: that Glenn are a group of humanoid animals all running
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Speaker 1: in a circle, and in the center of that circle
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Speaker 1: is a woman with red hair who seems on the
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Speaker 1: verge of apoplexy. Pardon me, says Alice, but is everything
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Speaker 1: all right? And one of the humanoid animals, which looked
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Speaker 1: like it might have been some sort of goat, runs
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Speaker 1: up to Alice and says, it has all gone terribly wrong.
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Speaker 1: We have learned a piece a piece of what, asks Alice,
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Speaker 1: a puzzle. Indeed, says the goatman, it has upset the
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Speaker 1: others terribly. They have turned against the mistress Sarcy, and
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Speaker 1: Alice looks at the woman with red hair, who really
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Speaker 1: does look like she's going to lose her head over
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Speaker 1: the whole business. Well, I do hope you get your
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Speaker 1: piece of whatever it is. It is ever so much
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Speaker 1: fun when everyone gets a share. The goat's eyes light up, Yes, yes,
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Speaker 1: I see, and without the goat runs back to the circle,
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Speaker 1: which appears to be closing in on Cercy, which you
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Speaker 1: know she looks increasingly panicked, But Alice doesn't see any
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Speaker 1: of that because she's already off on her adventure, and
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Speaker 1: next thing you know, she's in the clearing again, only
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Speaker 1: this time she's on the other side, curious so and
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Speaker 1: curious as she says, I was certain I was walking
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Speaker 1: in a straight line. And she sees that the very
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Speaker 1: large woman, the one that the red fellow had called Giganta,
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Speaker 1: is in a very cross argument with the three men,
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Speaker 1: and and Alice looks down to her left and sees
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Speaker 1: that someone's dropped off a little cake, and on top
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Speaker 1: of the cake or some currents that spell out eat me.
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Speaker 1: While Alice has a strict philosophy that she would always
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Speaker 1: immediately obey desserts, so she takes bite, and suddenly Alice
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Speaker 1: finds herself growing to enormous size, even larger than the
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Speaker 1: tall woman in the clearing, and the three men look
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Speaker 1: up at her, stopping their argument, and even Giganta looks
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Speaker 1: up at her and turns pale and says, how is
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Speaker 1: this even possible? Surrender? Giganta says, the red, blue, and
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Speaker 1: yellow man, whom Alice notices, is actually flying around, and
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Speaker 1: the large woman does surrender. After the argument is over,
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Speaker 1: the mouse man walks up to Alice's feet and looks
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Speaker 1: up at her, so Alice squats down to have a
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Speaker 1: chat with him. Thanks for your help, miss, says the man.
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Speaker 1: You said your name is Alice, and Alice nods, yes,
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Speaker 1: that's right. I do hope I haven't called any trouble. No, no,
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Speaker 1: you've saved the day. Now we just need to find
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Speaker 1: Hypnota and Alice points back across the clearing. I last
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Speaker 1: saw him over there, and the mouse Man looks even
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Speaker 1: more surprised. I don't cos you've seen a witch named Cercy.
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Speaker 1: Alice nods again. I'm not sure where to point. I
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Speaker 1: got turned round in the woods, but her animal friends
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Speaker 1: were running circles around her. The mouse Man seems shocked
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Speaker 1: by this, and he very quietly considers it. You wouldn't
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Speaker 1: happen to want to help us out more frequently, would you,
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Speaker 1: Alice beams, Why that would be ever so much fun?
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Speaker 1: I do love an adventure. Only I should find my
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Speaker 1: way back home. I do worry my sister would be
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Speaker 1: quite cross with me if she finds me missing. The
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Speaker 1: mouse Man nods again. Suddenly the Red Man is beside him,
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Speaker 1: and one moment he wasn't there, the next moment he
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Speaker 1: was there. My but you are quick, says Alice, and
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Speaker 1: the red Man gives her a smile and says to
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Speaker 1: his friend Batman, we caught the White Magician. Oh good,
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Speaker 1: says Alice. He's who I was after at the whole
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Speaker 1: start of this. Batman and the Red Fellow look up
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Speaker 1: at Alice mouths agape. The Red Man says to Batman,
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Speaker 1: is she a superhero? I don't know about Batman kind
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Speaker 1: of shrugs. Well, says Alice. I should be off. Do
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Speaker 1: let me know if I can join further advintas and
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Speaker 1: Alice stands up, towering over the woods. She takes a
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Speaker 1: few steps and noses some tiny shining object on the ground.
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Speaker 1: She picks it up sees it's a glass bottle with
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Speaker 1: a little tag that says drink me on it. Well,
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Speaker 1: of course, she has to follow her rules, so she
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Speaker 1: drinks the contents, and in moments she has returned to
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Speaker 1: her normal size. She walked what felt like for hours
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Speaker 1: but was in fact thirteen minutes, and returned to the
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Speaker 1: river bank, sitting down by her sister, who says, and
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Speaker 1: what have you been up to? And Alice says, oh,
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Speaker 1: I just joined the Justice League. The end I love
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Speaker 1: one that Alice was super and that she knew it
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Speaker 1: was a Justice League, and also I bow to your
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Speaker 1: knowledge of obscure DC characters. Jonathan, Yeah, I decided that
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Speaker 1: I was going to look up wonder a Woman's rogues gallery,
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Speaker 1: and y'all it is uh who's who of obscure characters,
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Speaker 1: most of them you have never heard of. Um. You
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Speaker 1: also have to get past the first round of Wonder
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Speaker 1: Woman's villains to make something fun, because, of course, when
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Speaker 1: Wonder Woman debuted, her chief enemies were Nazis, so I
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Speaker 1: didn't want to do a mash up with Nazis and
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Speaker 1: Alice from Alice in Wonderland, so I skipped ahead a
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Speaker 1: little bit. Yeah, yeah, good, good choice there, good choice. There.
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Speaker 1: Something else that is alarming lee common with Wonder Woman's villains.
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Speaker 1: Many of them are other women. In fact, I would
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Speaker 1: say possibly most of Wonder Woman's nemesses are women, and
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Speaker 1: of those a a alarming number of them cross dress
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Speaker 1: as men and disguise themselves as men, including Hypnota. Okay,
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