Latest / UK Column Radio / We’re Living on the Jones Plantation

Transcript

We’re Living on the Jones Plantation · UK Column Radio

0:38
Andrew Tregia, thank you for joining me in the trenches
0:40
again. Without being boring, give me a
0:43
quick breakdown of you. Oh, I'm a filmmaker adventurer.
0:48
I directed a film called Jones Plantation, directed and edited.
0:52
And I have a film that was released on the 31st of May
0:58
called Barnum World. And we again, we like Jones a
1:02
lot less money, but we crowdfunded that film as well.
1:05
And so, per the promise I made to the of the crowdfunders, the
1:10
donors contributors, we released that one for free to the
1:14
Internet. So that's on.
1:15
You can watch that right now. It's on YouTube and rumble and
1:20
bit shoot, but it's going to be I'll keep releasing probably,
1:23
you know, three to four more platforms.
1:25
It'll probably be on like 10 platforms by the time it's all
1:27
said and done. But right now you can go watch
1:28
it on YouTube. It's called Barnum world.
1:31
And so far the response has been great.
1:35
But and then it's a Barnum world, baby.
1:42
It's a it's a, it's a, it's a mockumentary.
1:45
It was originally going to just be a documentary.
1:46
And we're going to do the usual humdrum, you know, do a voice
1:50
over and prove a point kind of thing.
1:53
And and we decided like we created this fictional character
2:00
named Natty Jones and has the Long story short, as Natty Jones
2:04
sits down, he does a tell all about he's a propagandist and
2:08
he's been groomed. His father worked for the Rand
2:10
Corporation. There's like ACIA kind of cut
2:14
out kind of thing. And we don't learn this in the
2:16
film, but this is the back story.
2:18
But he sits down, he doesn't tell all about the propaganda
2:24
and and he covers the entire system and he basically just
2:29
lays out the entire clown system that we live under, the entire
2:33
scam that we live under and we prove it with B roll of the
2:40
world we actually live in. It's, it's really hard to
2:42
explain. I haven't actually gotten that
2:44
down yet. I haven't even cut a trail yet.
2:46
I just we did a screening in, uh, Phoenix and threw it up and
2:48
it's just been people love it so far.
2:50
Mostly. The only thing I've complaints I
2:52
got is not enough Jews, not enough Jews.
2:54
You got to show more Jews and everybody's a target.
2:59
We don't let them alone either, But I'm I'm I'm paint with a
3:03
very subtle brush, you know what I mean?
3:05
So if everybody's in there, so just pay attention and you'll
3:09
see what you need to see. But yeah, so we cut.
3:12
And so the B roll, it's is is it supports what he's talking
3:16
about. And it's it's it's it's own kind
3:18
of narrative. And he the character, the
3:22
character Natty Jones is played by Lee Gallman, who played Mr.
3:26
Jones and Jones Plantation. And in fact, in the back story,
3:30
Natty's a distant cousin of Nathaniel Jones, who ran the
3:33
Jones plantation. I know I didn't do a very good
3:36
job explaining it. I wish I had a trailer for you.
3:40
The Jones Plantation is effectively an adaption of that
3:46
short video that Lark and Rose made a few years back, isn't it?
3:51
That's right. That's right.
3:54
Yeah, it's a, there's a short animation and we adapted it to,
3:57
it's completely different. But you know, what's crazy about
4:00
that is that I, I went down to Anarcho Poco, which is this
4:06
anarchist kind of freedom conference in Mexico.
4:09
Have you heard? You've heard of it?
4:10
I'm sure You need to go. Yeah, Steve.
4:12
Falconer was there. Yes, You know Steve.
4:16
Yeah, there's a buddy of mine. I met him down there actually,
4:19
that we became good buddies. Like I talked to him now and
4:21
again. He calls me from, I think he's
4:22
in Denmark, right? He's in Denmark.
4:25
And Andrew Kaufman was there too recently and I think.
4:29
Yeah, I didn't meet him. I didn't meet him, but Kaufman
4:32
was there. I have a show now, Maverick and
4:36
the Machine, a podcast. I've interviewed Kaufman.
4:40
Of course, YouTube. That's the only one.
4:42
YouTube pulled it down. I couldn't believe it.
4:45
I was so pissed off. It's a really good interview.
4:48
And they said medical misinformation.
4:49
Believe it. Well, yeah, because there was
4:51
nothing in the interview. But they have it in for him.
4:53
He's on the no fly list on YouTube.
4:55
They hate him because he's credentialed and he says what a
4:59
bunch of horseshit the credentialing is and they can't
5:01
cookify him. I mean, he went to MIT grad do
5:04
grad school and he's like this, this is totally unnecessary.
5:07
Anyways, where where was it? We're getting sidetracked.
5:10
It's early here, so bear with me.
5:11
I just got my coffee. But I mean he.
5:14
Was kind of asking you to explain the Jones plantation.
5:18
So what happened? Actually, it's a great, great
5:22
film. Thank you.
5:25
Thank you. What I was saying is that I went
5:28
to the conference and this was February 2019.
5:31
So literally like weeks before the whole World War, COVID
5:37
started and I interviewed Larkin there.
5:41
I, I had a whole other project. I was going to do something
5:43
called Democracy down. It was, I just had an idea.
5:46
I didn't have, you know, I, I was so broke at the time.
5:49
I had I literally like borrowed money from a rich buddy of mine
5:53
took Doug Mize, who was is now the was assistant director on
5:57
the film flew down there, took all our equipment and just
5:59
started interviewing people. And I was going to interview
6:01
people across the political spectrum.
6:03
That was kind of the original idea and make a documentary.
6:05
And I just I just was compelled to go there.
6:07
I met Larkin, I interviewed him and during the interview and
6:10
it's on my YouTube channel with Drew Drew Media TV.
6:14
He which I still have. I'm careful with him, but he in
6:20
the interview he says, well, I said, you know, slavery's, you
6:24
know, the, the old slavery was whips and chains, but today
6:27
might be more pernicious because it's, it's mind control, it's
6:30
brainwashing. You don't see the whips, you
6:31
don't see the chains, you don't see the slave master, You know,
6:34
you think you're free. And he said, it's funny.
6:37
I did an animation, a short animation called Jones
6:39
Plantation. And then we went and watched it.
6:44
Me and Doug went and watched the back of the hotel room and I was
6:46
like, man, this will be a great short film.
6:48
We should make it into a narrative.
6:50
And he's like, why don't we just make it a feature?
6:52
He said that in the flight home. So then it turns out Larkin
6:55
lives in Arizona. So I just wrote him and said,
6:57
hey, let's do a Indiegogo campaign and turn this into a
7:00
feature film. And he was like, yeah, let's go.
7:02
So here we are. But if we had, if I had gone,
7:05
that conference was a week later, that film would have
7:08
never happened because because of the whole, all the COVID shit
7:11
happened like literally like a week after we got back.
7:14
And I met him towards the end of the conference and we had to
7:17
shoot that thing during that insanity too.
7:20
That, which was another interesting.
7:21
It's an allegory and a satire of the control system that we live
7:25
in now through the lens of an antebellum slave plantation.
7:30
It's, it's just, it's like a coil that's unwinding faster and
7:34
faster and faster. It's I, I, I don't know.
7:39
It's, I'd be, I'm, I'm, I'm really thinking of like I'm
7:43
trying to work my way out of this.
7:45
I live in the States. I, I mean, I'm going to watch
7:48
the collapse of Western Civilization.
7:49
I don't want to watch it from my backyard, you know, like it's, I
7:53
don't know what's going to go on here.
7:54
When people ask me what the film's about, that's all I tell
7:56
them. We all live on Jones Plantation.
7:58
It's weird because people tend to get it.
7:59
When I say that, they, I mean they don't know exactly.
8:03
Even if they don't know, I'll sometimes they'll wear the shirt
8:07
and then what's Jones Plantation?
8:08
We all live on Jones Plantation and they kind of get it.
8:10
It's a weird thing. Everybody kind of knows there's
8:15
something. If you don't know there's
8:17
something up, then you're you're probably going to be dead in 10
8:20
years. I mean, there's, there's if you
8:22
don't know what's going on, if you don't understand this,
8:24
everybody knows there's something.
8:27
Something is strange. Even if they're the most normy
8:29
people, there's something feels off.
8:32
Your credentials are significant.
8:35
I mean, you've also won awards. Yeah, I mean, whatever, I'm not
8:41
really big on. Any I think OK.
8:44
No, I don't think so. I think I maybe worked in a show
8:48
that won an Emmy and but no, I don't think I won an Emmy.
8:54
I don't think I won an Emmy, did I?
8:56
Or something you worked on, I can't remember.
8:59
I might have it wrong actually. But for the sake of for the sake
9:03
of making you look good, we'll say you did.
9:05
OK, I'll take it. I'll take it.
9:06
I I'm trying to remember because I worked at PBS for years and I
9:13
was on was Jimmy. Kimmel, I think, OK.
9:15
Oh well, Jimmy Kimmel that was so I did a feature documentary
9:19
called Lord of the Freaks. It was like a this was like pre
9:24
awakening me. That was in LA and had a big
9:29
screening at the at the Egyptian Theatre there, which was pretty
9:33
wild because I didn't get into filmmaking until my 30s.
9:37
I didn't even, I never even picked up a camera.
9:39
And I, I mean, I, I doused around the thing, but I made the
9:46
decision to go full bore into it without even, I didn't know
9:49
anything. And so then like literally like
9:50
10 years later, I'm standing on this like really expensive red
9:54
carpet in LA for my screening at the theater that where red
10:00
carpet was invented. It's a beautiful theater, the
10:02
Egyptian, which is right down the street from the Chinese
10:04
theater. And I just was like, it was it
10:08
was great. It was a great experience, but I
10:10
was just kind of like something didn't feel right.
10:12
I didn't know what it was. And it was about like a lot of
10:18
soul searching. About three years later is when
10:20
I just said I made a decision like I'm going to do what I want
10:23
to do and that's it. Whatever come hell or high
10:27
water. And and that was really when I
10:30
started to do what I want to do. Once you make a decision, what
10:32
they call, you know, burning the boats, which came from Cortez,
10:37
apparently the story goes that he landed in Mexico and they're
10:40
outnumbered, would have like 100 to 1 or whatever it was and they
10:44
were scared and he burned all the boats.
10:47
It's just like to we're either going to conquer this place and
10:49
we're getting killed. That's it.
10:51
And that's kind of like a metaphor for how you make
10:54
decisions in life when you're serious, Burn the boats.
10:57
Let's go. We're either going to we're
10:59
going to do this and that's it. So once I made the decision,
11:02
once you make the decision, then the then things start to happen.
11:06
And that's kind of what happened to me.
11:07
But I was kind of just figuring things out.
11:09
And, and it's weird how once you make that decision, like it's
11:16
just how things happen. Like as soon as I made the
11:18
decision, literally like a client I hadn't talked to in
11:20
five years contacted me and I did this job in Arkansas and I
11:24
made like 10 grand on the job. And I just bought all my
11:27
equipment with it for, for the shoot for Mexico.
11:29
And that's how I'm at Larkin. And here we are.
11:32
When did you have your Damascus moment?
11:36
Oh, yeah, We've talked. My Damascus moment was, was the
11:43
birth of my daughter. And I tell the story and it
11:46
sounds corny. And so I'm like, and I swear to
11:48
God this is true. It's I literally, I'll tell you,
11:52
this is kind of embarrassing. I've told my daughter this and
11:55
we think it's funny now. So the her mother and I are not
11:58
together, but we we Co parent. We have a very good situation.
12:02
I wouldn't recommend it and I wouldn't do it twice because
12:04
you'll never strike lightning in a bottle twice.
12:06
But are you, you probably won't. But at the time I, I kind of
12:11
knew we were going to split up. My daughter was being born and I
12:15
didn't, we didn't know and I was like.
12:18
So we went to the doctor to figure out if it's a boy or girl
12:22
and they told us it was a girl. I wanted a boy.
12:26
And I literally in the thing was like shit.
12:29
Like I scream shit in the room, which I, I told my daughter I'm
12:34
ashamed of. It's funny now, but it was
12:37
because I, I thought I was like, at the time, my belief was I
12:40
don't want kids. Kids are going to make my life
12:41
miserable. You know, they're going to keep
12:43
me from my dreams. They keep me from my fun.
12:45
And so then of course, the day of the birth of my daughter,
12:50
like the minute I looked into her eyes and I'm not being
12:53
corny, I looked into her and I was just fell in love with her.
12:57
And of course, like having a daughter is the best.
13:01
I'm I'm she's like the best. But I was like, what the fuck
13:06
have I been doing? Like it just snapped me like, Oh
13:08
my, why don't, why don't I have 10 of these?
13:11
Like I should have 10. I want 10, you know, like I'm a
13:15
big strong man. Why?
13:17
And I started reverse engineering my life.
13:18
Why am I financially struggling when I'm good at what I do?
13:22
Why, why, why, why? That's when I started unraveling
13:24
my life. And that's when I woke up and
13:28
realized that I've been scammed and lied to my whole life under
13:32
this control system that does everything it can to degenerate
13:36
you and keep you from your destiny, which is to raise
13:40
children and be abundant. When you say reverse engineer
13:45
though, like what do you mean? Like unlearn things that you had
13:48
previously learned. Yeah, like, why did I think that
13:54
having kids was going to be bad? Like, that to me is the most
13:58
insane thing. You, you just like you've said,
14:00
you just had a child. I'm sure you've talked about in
14:02
the show recently. I've got a boy.
14:04
I mean, it's the most insane, awesome thing you can ever think
14:09
of, right? It's the craziest thing.
14:11
It's so beautiful and Can you imagine they're trying to tell
14:15
us that having children is bad and and why are they propagating
14:19
this? Why are they propagating?
14:21
Why is your brain? Yeah, but it's so like they
14:25
don't want you to have the greatest thing that there is.
14:28
Like you're you're basically your reason for being here is,
14:34
is to to propagate the species. So obviously there's some they
14:37
have an issue with the species, right?
14:41
So then, you know, there's that. Then there was the more
14:44
pragmatic stuff like is my volume OK?
14:48
I feel. Like it's.
14:51
OK, good. Yeah, You know, because I'm
14:54
raised in America, so it was or the United States I called
14:58
America is occupied by the United States.
15:01
That's how I the United States federal regime, we're in
15:04
occupied territory, but we were, you know, raised with this
15:07
absolute horseshit about how we're the freest country in the
15:10
world and the freedom machine and, you know, the voting and
15:15
the, the holy fathers with these, you know, pure, pristine
15:19
men that only wanted freedom. And, you know, it's the court
15:23
system is amazing and it's, you know, it's not the best, but
15:26
it's worked really hard and it's, it's utter nonsense.
15:31
And so that was a big part of it because it be it really for a
15:34
lot of people. And I mean, I, if you'd said to
15:38
me like America wasn't number one or America wasn't the freest
15:41
country, like I would want to fight you before, before all
15:44
this, you know what I mean? Like I would have like gotten
15:46
physically angry at you. That's that's how crazy it is.
15:49
And that unwound, which was really, really depressing.
15:55
Like that was like losing a girlfriend that I was in love
15:57
with when that fell apart. And there's just so many things,
16:00
you know, just every, all the stuff, you know all the stuff.
16:05
But that's one of the big things though, is that people don't
16:08
want to let go of so many of these preconceived ideological
16:16
positions, I suppose, and and beliefs in things that we have
16:20
been fed. It's an ego thing.
16:23
That's what Natty Jones says in the movie.
16:25
It's an ego thing. They don't you.
16:28
Yeah, you can't. They don't It's.
16:31
It's very difficult. It's very difficult, but you
16:35
have to live The analogy that that I like is, you know, if
16:39
you're, you have to live in the truth.
16:42
And how about our miserable? It is because it's like the
16:46
analogy is if you're living in a neighborhood and there's a mob
16:49
guy and he's killing people and burying him in the cemetery and
16:53
you don't realize that the mob guy and the cops are working
16:57
together. They're all, it's all one thing,
16:59
and you're completely and totally controlled by the mob
17:02
and the cops. They're all corrupt.
17:06
And you go to tell the police about the mob guy.
17:08
You're going to end up in the cemetery.
17:10
So you need, yeah, the neighborhood is terrible.
17:14
It's completely corrupt. But at least you understand
17:17
what's going on so you can protect yourself and you can
17:21
make decisions that will hopefully get you out of that
17:25
situation. But if you're living in a
17:27
fantasy where you know you're going to vote the guy in now
17:30
we're going to vote, vote Trump in.
17:33
He's going to fix everything and you know we're going to bring
17:35
America back. One of the things about Barnum
17:37
world is, but it's is is Barnum statements.
17:40
Barnum statements are statements sound that they use to control
17:45
us. It's a really good tool.
17:46
They're statements that sound like they mean something really
17:49
profound and they they they get your emotions up, but they
17:54
actually mean absolutely nothing because they mean something
17:56
different to everybody that hears them.
17:58
So if you took somebody in a room and you know, the classic
18:01
one is Make America Great Again, that doesn't mean anything.
18:04
If you took 15 people in a room and ask them break down in three
18:07
sentences, what Make America Great again, you're going to get
18:10
15 different answers. It doesn't mean anything.
18:12
It's just it's a Barnum statement and they use them all,
18:14
you know, bring the country together.
18:15
We're going to get back to the Constitution.
18:19
You know, all these things are Barnum statements, build back
18:23
better. So we go through that in the
18:26
film and Barnum world, but I don't know where I was going
18:30
with that. But I'm sorry 7 here.
18:33
I'm I'm sorry if I'm meandering. Hopefully I'm not ruining the
18:36
show here. The the COVID era is a great
18:38
example of a bunch of these themes because people people
18:44
were voluntarily lining up like cattle to get an injection, a
18:48
brand on their arm. Yeah, it's, it was absolutely
18:53
bonkers. And that's self-imposed.
18:55
What was crazy to me was like, oh, yeah, there's so many things
19:01
that were crazy about that I, I still haven't.
19:04
It's so crazy because they did all that and then we're just
19:06
like, moving on. This is the thing.
19:08
What did you conclude from that? Because I'm still processing the
19:13
fact that the entire world was involved in that.
19:16
It starts to make David Icke look a lot, lot more plausible
19:19
than maybe he did before. Like I the whole thing.
19:22
Is it wasn't a coincidence? Right, exactly.
19:26
And they, well, this is what Barnum world's about is that he,
19:31
he just goes through all of the different propaganda tools they
19:34
have and how easy it is, how easy it is to just because they
19:39
know how people are going to act.
19:41
And it, it was so easy. And The thing is that the people
19:50
there were so many people. I have a one of my best friends
19:52
who was a extremely intelligent guy and he was just gone and I,
19:56
and I tried to tried and he, I could not reach him and I just
20:02
thought, I don't, I haven't talked to him since I there were
20:05
intelligent people that could not accept the fact that they
20:08
were being lied to. I'd so I don't know what I
20:12
conclude from that now is I, I don't know if that doesn't wake
20:16
people up to the system. I mean, I'm making films, I'm
20:18
I'm doing my thing. I'm trying to wake people up.
20:22
I'm trying to get, but I don't know if even waking people up is
20:26
enough. Like, I don't know.
20:28
I don't know. I, I'm, I'm kind of black pilled
20:30
on the way. Are they capable?
20:31
Are we just going to have to try to carve out whatever we can?
20:35
You think so? I'm also, I'm also a bit black
20:38
pulled on that. I've come to realize now, I
20:40
mean, particularly after Trump was elected and I'm just an
20:45
observer, right? I don't live in the states, but
20:49
I see the number of people who are suddenly embedded in in the
20:55
system again since he became president because hey, anything
21:00
he says is cool so therefore you know he's playing 5D chess.
21:03
So trust the plan bro. Yeah, yeah.
21:08
And that's what I say. A lot of people have the
21:12
different opinion that they're going to wake up because he's
21:15
going to prove himself to be. He's already doing it with this
21:18
Israel stuff. I mean, but he was doing it
21:21
before it was so obvious. It's so obvious.
21:24
It's like you're screaming like, can't you see this?
21:27
You shake people, but they can't.
21:30
But I always said if, if Kamala, if Kamala had gotten in, it
21:36
would have been so obvious that she cheated and her policies
21:40
would have been so evil and stupid that I think, because I
21:43
think what's coming to the the United States is as a massive
21:45
secession. How that looks, I don't know,
21:48
20, early twenty 30s. I thought we could have gotten
21:52
that for real. I thought we could OK, because
21:55
this is going to be so ridiculous.
21:56
But what Trump did was all these people were America's back,
22:01
baby. Freedom was back, baby.
22:04
You know, And then I, I, I can't tell you how many right wing
22:07
kind of even like like really honest bass right wingers were
22:13
like, we're shipping out 30 million people.
22:15
We're going to send them back. I'm like, dude, you guys are
22:18
living in fantasyland. They're not sending anybody.
22:21
The thing is, they'll say the borders are sealed.
22:24
How would I know if the borders are sealed?
22:26
The immigration's down. We've got the immigration like
22:30
nothing has changed. I don't know.
22:31
How would I know that? There's still tons of people
22:34
here from other places. The border's massive.
22:37
There's a massive border between Arizona, Texas and Mexico.
22:41
How that border sealed? That doesn't make any sense.
22:44
It's it's just they, it's all what they, it's all the grand
22:48
Wurlitzer, man. It's the, it's modern world.
22:49
They just do, they put whatever they're putting out there.
22:51
People are going to buy into and start arguing back and forth and
22:54
they just got everybody back on the America train.
22:57
But he is doing very badly. People are, but I I don't know.
23:05
Yeah, you know, I don't know if he's like if it just happens to
23:12
be that he just is just full of shit or if he's like actually
23:15
actively like, OK, I'm part of the scam, rub my hands together.
23:18
I don't I don't know. Obviously nobody can really
23:21
know. I people think that that there's
23:24
something we don't know what happened with his so-called
23:27
assassination attempt, who we don't know, but we can't know
23:30
that we. Don't talk about it.
23:33
We know we don't know the truth, that's for sure.
23:35
Yeah. What I can't understand with
23:38
that thing is that like two people, one or two people, I
23:41
think one guy was killed and somebody else was shot, got
23:44
capped. And they're like in the audience
23:48
somewhere. Like if you have an AR and
23:50
you're sitting on top of a tower, I mean, I'm not an expert
23:53
with an AR, but I can hit you, you know what I mean?
23:56
It's a 556 bullet. It's not hard that guns meant to
24:00
shoot people. It's pretty, I mean, why they're
24:04
shooting audience people, you know, 30 yards away.
24:08
Like, what was that? That was just, you know, to to
24:10
add to the drama, which I don't know if this is a matrix thing
24:16
or an intentional global cult thing, but the guy, the fireman
24:20
that was killed, his number was 33 on his uniform.
24:24
I don't make that make of that of what you make of that what
24:28
you will. It's just odd.
24:30
All that shit happens. Is it a matrix thing?
24:32
Is it? I mean, you know, I talk about
24:33
this illegal man all the time who played Mr. Jones and played
24:37
Natty Jones is a friend of mine. If if one if this week get this
24:41
whole thing, it's uncovered and there's not some sort of
24:43
supernatural being beings behind this, I'll be disappointed.
24:48
Like I'll be shocked. Like I, I can't imagine human
24:50
beings could put this much scammery together for this long.
24:54
You know, most people I know are they're nice.
24:59
I I can't imagine the kind of organization and scammery and
25:07
bullshit that goes on. I, I just think, I think films
25:10
like, again, I don't want to push my own stuff, but like, I
25:13
think Barnum World because it really, you cannot watch that
25:17
film and walk away unless you're just gone.
25:20
You cannot watch that film and, and walk away and go, Oh yeah, I
25:23
don't know. That's everything, you know,
25:26
there's no argument. It's like this is it?
25:28
We're telling you what they're doing.
25:30
We're showing. It's not complicated.
25:32
It's not brain surgery. And we're showing it.
25:35
Like, I give you an example. There's a guy a lot of I pulled
25:39
this off the Internet, but then I cleaned it up.
25:42
One of the Barnum statements is this the most important election
25:45
of our lifetimes? This is the most important
25:46
election of our lifetime. We do a string from 2020.
25:51
You keep breaking up, be there, but it goes from 2024 to 1940.
25:58
Clips of presidential candidates saying it's the most important
26:01
election of our lifetime. And when you see that laid out,
26:04
it's like the audience, they'll watch it.
26:07
And the first they're kind of laughing.
26:08
And then they're like, oh. And then by the time you get to
26:10
like the 70s and the 60s, like, oh, whoa, what?
26:14
Like, what is this horse shit? Like they've been saying this
26:17
for 80 years and it still works together alone.
26:23
That's a Barnum statement that they just live on these Barnum
26:27
statements. And once you see them, you can't
26:29
Unsee them. They're everywhere.
26:30
I don't know where. Yeah.
26:33
It's it's with one of the things is that is the dark occult
26:36
thing. So that's where the repetitive
26:40
content, repetitive content. Have you ever talked to a guy
26:42
named Jason Kristoff? Just a few days ago, in fact.
26:47
Oh, OK, so you went over this stuff.
26:49
He's he's a big repetitive content guy.
26:52
Yeah, he when you see it, because I, it kind of messed my
26:58
head up when I was editing the film.
27:00
It's there was a everybody's seen that newscast where it's
27:06
they're going false news. It's a threat through our
27:09
democracy. It's a threat through our
27:10
democracy threat. Have you ever seen that?
27:12
Yes. We use that of course, but then
27:15
I cut to another one where there's like 40 senators or
27:20
congressmen. I don't know what what these
27:21
assholes do, but they're every single one of them.
27:25
It was, it was a longer bit, but I cut it to the very end where
27:27
they go. That's the truth and that's the
27:30
truth. And in the bit they say the same
27:33
thing. A couple of them vary 8 a little
27:37
bit. Most of them do the exact same
27:39
physical movements where they have this little like handheld
27:42
little like portable mic thing and they say something and then
27:46
they sit down and go Now that's the truth.
27:49
And like they use the same hand movements and gestures.
27:52
It is really creepy. And so to me, they're, they,
27:59
they know some it's, it's, it's, I don't know, it's, it's, it
28:03
can't, it's got to be some sort of weird occult for all of those
28:07
people to do that in the exact same way and move the exact same
28:09
way. I don't know how to explain it.
28:11
It's, it's very creepy. It's very creepy.
28:14
And they have to know that somebody's going to cut together
28:17
and show the world, but they don't care.
28:19
They don't, it doesn't matter to them.
28:21
I think they've figured out that if they just show you what they
28:25
want to show you, there's going to be a certain percentage of
28:27
the population that's going to buy into it.
28:28
And, and nothing you show them will change their mind.
28:31
You know what I mean? So they don't care.
28:32
They just do this programming thing and they're obviously
28:38
lying, but they're saying that's the truth.
28:39
That's the other thing. It's inversion.
28:40
Everything's inversion where they're blatantly lying and then
28:43
they say that's the truth. It's like it's, it's also, it's
28:46
a demoralizing thing. It's very demoralizing.
28:49
They want to demoralize people to just kind of like there's
28:53
nothing we can do and just kind of give up and move on with
28:55
their life and let them run on this scam and this control
28:58
system that they're running on us.
29:01
What do you think is going on? I mean, what's the game plan?
29:05
I don't know. Digital prison, one world
29:09
government. That's what I think is going on.
29:12
I think that's what they want. Digital Prison.
29:14
One World Government. Satan.
29:18
Enslavement and the illusion of freedom, I think.
29:22
That they're going to get to the point where there's not going to
29:23
be any more illusion. That's why I think we're headed.
29:27
I think the illusion is going to go away.
29:30
They're going to just be we're just going to be we're and I
29:32
think eventually they're going to probably try to kill a bunch
29:34
of us as a as the game is the red blue scam.
29:38
They're there to pretend like there's somebody trying to fight
29:40
this thing. You know, did you, Oh my God,
29:43
did you see the interview with Tucker Carlson where he
29:46
interviewed Ted Cruz? You, you, you've got to watch
29:49
this. This is something that should be
29:51
studied if it's it's mind boggling.
29:54
If you want to, if you want to unscrew and look under the hood
29:58
of what these people that run this world think and do.
30:02
And I don't know what where he's at or what level he is or
30:05
whether he's a true believer or not.
30:07
He is an unbelievably fucked up person.
30:13
I mean, he is a really fucked up into Ted or or Tucker.
30:16
I would say a lot of people would say, oh, Tucker's in on it
30:19
and his CIAI think Tucker is a man who's changed his mind.
30:23
I mean, he's he, there's questions he doesn't ask,
30:26
there's places he doesn't go, but he won't get the interview
30:28
if he does. You know, he's also kind of
30:30
still a believer. I don't know what he is.
30:33
I can't, I don't know the man, but I think he's a man of people
30:37
do change their mind. It's not.
30:39
I think when people act like everybody's in on it, they give
30:42
this stuff too much credit. These people are not that
30:44
competent. It's just not that hard to do.
30:47
There's an interesting interview with this former CIA guy and
30:51
he's talking about these methods they learn to kind of manipulate
30:57
people. And he's like, I, I learned
30:59
these. I was like, there's no way this
31:00
shit works. It's just too obvious.
31:02
He's like, there's no way. And then it's like, because I
31:04
think it went out into the real world and I did it and it's
31:06
like, it works like 100% of the time.
31:10
It's like these techniques are so simple.
31:12
So it's not like these people have to be this giant where
31:15
Tucker's acting. And it's like, no, it doesn't.
31:18
It's, it's very easy to manipulate and control the
31:20
people. And I think Tucker Carlson is a
31:22
guy, in my humble opinion, who's changed his mind.
31:25
He was pro war and now he's like, I'm anti war and he's
31:27
trying to talk to Ted Cruz and going Ted Cruz wants to invade
31:31
Israel or Iran and regime change.
31:34
After all we've been through, he's still pushing this shit.
31:38
And he's like Tucker's like basically, if I had to sum him
31:41
up, he's like, what the fuck are you talking about?
31:43
But the interview is, it's fascinating.
31:45
It's really a fascinating look into these psychopaths and
31:49
idiots that run the world and what, how they, how they, and
31:53
like I said, what level he's at. I don't know what this, if you
31:56
keep on peeling the onion, what do we end up with?
31:58
Satan. I, I don't know, it's so evil
32:02
and bizarre. It's hard to even fathom that it
32:04
could just be human beings. But I don't know.
32:05
All I'm saying is all everything's on the table.
32:08
Let me define what I mean by idiot.
32:11
What I mean is they have absolutely no wisdom.
32:14
Like if you're a piece of shit and you're trying to, you're
32:19
anti human, anti God, you, you're an idiot.
32:24
I'm not saying you're not intelligent, OK, I'm saying
32:28
you're, you're an I'm not saying you're not manipulative.
32:30
I'm just saying you're a fucking idiot.
32:32
Like the guy Yuval Harari, whatever that he's supposed to
32:36
be the the smartest Jew in the world, that guy is a fucking
32:39
idiot. He's an idiot.
32:41
He's a complete idiot. He missing everything, missing
32:45
all the important things he's missing.
32:46
So that that's what I mean by that.
32:48
You would. Think that more and more and
32:51
more people are becoming aware, right?
32:54
Yeah, let's, let's just go back. You know, it wasn't that wild
32:57
when we had those Nazis running the government.
32:59
Now it's over. Now let's go back to work.
33:02
I don't know, in some way it's kind of interesting because the
33:04
way humans can just adapt, you know, I think in some ways I,
33:10
this is my thing and I've been Lark and Rose have gotten back
33:13
and forth on this. He thinks people are waking up
33:15
and I hope he's right. But my thing is, even if they
33:19
wake up, they're not going to accept voluntarism and anarchy.
33:23
They don't. People don't want freedom.
33:25
They want to be told what to do. In my opinion, I've become very
33:28
black pilled on this. I don't think most people want
33:31
freedom. They want somebody to tell.
33:34
It's the line of the Jones plantation.
33:35
They don't want freedom or the truth.
33:38
They want somebody to tell them what to do and they and they
33:40
don't want it to be them. They want to know somebody's in
33:42
charge and it's not them. That's what they want.
33:48
Anarchy. So just just for clarity, when
33:50
you talk about anarchy, you're not talking about chaos, you're
33:52
just talking about individualism.
33:55
No, that means they obviously turned that word.
33:57
I mean the word means what the word means for people.
33:59
For people now it means chaos. But the original, they obviously
34:03
did that to manipulate what it is.
34:05
But you know, the original term just means anarchy, just means
34:08
without rulers, doesn't matter because now it means chaos.
34:11
But my anarchy means I'd like voluntaryism, self organizing
34:20
principle, human beings and self organized.
34:22
But the problem is that you know, and you know this, that
34:26
these types of people are going to come in and manipulate humans
34:30
and get gain control. It's just like that supposedly
34:33
quote the Napoleon said. How did you take over France?
34:36
There was a sword in the ground. I picked it up.
34:38
You know, that's probably going to happen.
34:41
I, you know, I don't think that people are going to, oh, wow,
34:44
this we're about to collapse and everybody's waking up that
34:46
everybody's just going to go. What's the anarchist?
34:48
We're just no more governments. I mean, it's conceivably
34:52
possible. It would require a massive
34:55
elevation of consciousness where we, we would look at politicians
35:00
and governments like we look at, you know, transatlantic and, and
35:05
the African slave trade or what are all the slave trades, the
35:08
Roman slave trade. You know, we look at it now like
35:10
we're appalled by it for the most part.
35:12
We'd have to, it'd have to be like that.
35:14
Like if you, if you want to, there'd have to be where like if
35:16
you try to rule over other people, we're going to kill you.
35:18
Like you're just not fit to be in society.
35:21
That would require a massive elevation of consciousness.
35:24
I, I hate to be negative, I just don't see it.
35:27
I think the already knows this is horseshit.
35:29
If they make it so horrible that it's untenable, there could be
35:34
something, you know, I don't think everybody's.
35:37
I'm not like it's going to be dystopia hell.
35:40
Like, I don't know. I don't know.
35:42
I don't know where it's going. I don't know where I'm sorry.
35:45
I'm. Tired of forever though.
35:47
To be fair though, without slavery we wouldn't have rock
35:50
music. Explain that joke.
35:56
Slavery. A lot of people don't know that
36:06
though. Explain that I don't get, I
36:09
mean. Well, rock music comes from
36:11
Blues, and Blues comes from. Stable.
36:13
Did you know that? Oh yeah, yeah, I've heard this
36:15
theory. I don't know that that's true
36:17
because a lot of people think Blues came from bluegrass or
36:20
from from the Appalachian people.
36:24
Did you know that? Well, I like, I like my
36:26
position. Well, The thing is that that's
36:29
another one of the SIOP things where the white man just copied
36:32
the black man, where it's actually those black people came
36:35
over here and saw these, these all these Breeley Mountain
36:40
people playing this kind of like came from Scotland bluegrass and
36:47
and they adopted that music from that.
36:49
So there's that argument. But I like your, I like your
36:52
joke. I get your point.
36:54
I mean we would have rap music without slavery.
36:56
I know that we wouldn't have rap music that the CIAI.
37:00
Mean if you look at the daughter right now, do you know that the
37:03
biggest slave trade is, is from, from African countries?
37:08
Yeah, yeah, yeah, yeah. But that's very politically
37:12
incorrect to say that. Yeah, well, it's because the
37:15
controllers hate multiculturalism.
37:18
They, they want us all mixed together.
37:21
They want the brown BLOB. They want to ethnically cleanse
37:24
all of us and turn us into one big brown BLOB.
37:27
We have no history, we have no culture, we have no religion, we
37:29
have no family. We're just the brown BLOB of
37:33
enslaved consumers. That's so when they say they
37:36
like multiculturalism, I say they actually hate
37:38
multiculturalism because they hate us.
37:40
Why would they like multiculturalism when they're
37:41
anti human? They hate multiculturalism.
37:44
That's why they're trying to mix everybody together and turn us
37:47
into the look of the giant, the, you know, the clergy plan.
37:49
You've heard of that? Yeah, it's to remove white
37:52
people out of Europe. Well, it's just to brown
37:55
everybody and turn us into like this ethnically cleansed brown,
37:58
the brown BLOB, I call it. That's what they want.
38:00
They don't love multi. I like multiculturalism.
38:03
I just, I want to go to Belgium and Germany and see German
38:07
culture. I want to go to El Salvador and
38:10
see El Salvadoran culture. They don't want that.
38:13
They want everything to be just McDonald's on every corner.
38:17
ZOG you know, you know, dude, America is ZOG.
38:22
ZOG. I was looking at AI was at a a
38:26
gas station yesterday. I almost took a picture of this
38:29
and I was looking at the front of the building and I was like,
38:31
God, ZOG It was like it was a $3 meal plan.
38:36
It was a disgusting hot dog and like a 60 oz two dozen donut
38:41
drink, you know, which is basically those drinks are like
38:43
a dozen Donuts. That's how much sugar is in
38:45
those drinks, that they're Big Gulp drinks.
38:48
And like a piece of candy or something was $3 and then it had
38:51
a Zin. Then it had like a weed thing.
38:54
You know, you get these like 3 for 15.
38:56
You get like, and then it was like a liquor deal, you know,
39:00
and then it was cigarettes. And I'm like, that is ZOG right
39:04
there. There it is.
39:05
It's, it's, it the everything, the construction of the building
39:08
is the hideous buildings that are built only for, for
39:11
commerce. They, they don't last.
39:13
And then everything is just vices and misery.
39:17
It's yeah, it's a terrible food. When I was in Paris, it it
39:25
looked like any other big city in the world.
39:29
It didn't look. It flat, it flattens everything.
39:32
That's what they did. Flattens everything.
39:33
There's no culture anymore. They want, they're anti
39:36
multicultural. You know what I mean?
39:38
You want to go to Italy and see Italian and Italian culture.
39:42
You want to go wherever you're going in the world.
39:44
They want to flatten it all and put circle KS and shell stations
39:48
and Zins and McDonald's and Starbucks and Panda Express and
39:54
Walmarts everywhere. And it's just a flattened group
39:58
of brown, ethnically cleansed people that have no, like I
40:01
said, no history, no ancestry, no no culture, no religion,
40:05
nothing. It's just.
40:07
Consumption and enslavement. And when you come to South
40:12
Africa, you want to see wildlife and crime.
40:16
I want to see, I want to see farmers rising up and massacring
40:22
anybody that comes near their farm.
40:23
That's what I want to say. Let me ask you a question
40:24
because I I wanted to save this, but I can't.
40:27
What is your deal with your take on Dracus 2 + C?
40:29
Because here's a guy who's a South African champion and he
40:32
never talks about the farmers there.
40:34
And it makes me wonder, is he just living?
40:36
He does. Oh, does he?
40:38
He does. He never doesn't do it, but he
40:40
does. He's go ahead.
40:44
He's yeah, he spoke out at one or two of his fights.
40:47
I like him. I like him a lot.
40:49
I think he's a a Regal. He's a great fighter.
40:51
Oh, he's great. I've I've won a good bit of
40:53
money on him. Actually.
40:56
I've been calling him for a while, Joe.
40:57
Rogan can't. Can't figure him out.
41:00
So, so, so Drickus is basically a grappler.
41:04
I mean, the guy is very dirty in not in terms of he doesn't fight
41:08
dirty. He's just, he's just very
41:09
sloppy. He's not.
41:10
You're going. To get into a brawl with that
41:12
fighter, Yeah. Yeah, exactly.
41:13
You don't want to get into a brawl with him.
41:15
Well, I mean, if you're getting the ring when you say dirty,
41:17
you're getting into a brawl. He's coming at you.
41:19
Yeah, yeah, yeah. And I the wagon to tell you what
41:22
the. Go ahead.
41:23
I'm sorry. No.
41:24
No, I was going to say if you, if you give him a chance, he's
41:27
going to take you down. That's it on the ground.
41:30
Well, my thing with him is that the explanation for him is that
41:33
he goes into the ring and his mindset is I'm going to win no
41:37
matter what. There's a there's a few guys
41:38
like that and when you see them, you bet on them.
41:41
He knows he's going to win and he goes in there and he's going
41:44
to win and, and he gets it done. He finds a way to get it done.
41:48
He's got that thing that's very few fighters have that He's just
41:51
I'm going to win. I think he's going to, I hope he
41:54
fights Kamzad. I think he's going to beat him.
41:56
I really do. He's going to beat Hamzad.
41:58
He's going to get past the first few rounds and then Hamza's
42:02
finished because Hamza's like once you Hamza's one of those
42:05
guys, if you get him past, we're going to get MMA discussion now.
42:08
But like if you get him past the first few rounds, he's going to
42:10
crumble. He's one of those guys that's
42:11
like a bully that kicks everybody's ass.
42:13
But if he meets his match, he's going to crumble.
42:16
He's going to get tired. He's going to give up.
42:20
When drinkers fought Strickland, it was a very difficult one for
42:24
me because I like both of them. Well, Tricus lost that first
42:26
fight. He lost that first one he got,
42:29
He got the decision because they were in Canada and and Sean
42:31
Stricken was talking shit on Trudeau the whole time.
42:33
He he beat him a second time. Did you know that he lost that
42:38
fight though? He lost 4 rounds in that fight.
42:40
He fought great, but he lost. But then the second one he beat
42:43
him, he came back and beat him. He beat him real good the second
42:46
time. I mean, his face was just three.
42:49
He beat Israel. Oh, he beat I took I took him
42:53
against Israel. I knew he's going to kick the
42:54
shit out of outside. I mean, he I knew he was going
42:57
to house that guy. Now I I'm telling you, I he's
42:59
going to be an underdog against Hamzat and I I that's a good
43:02
bet. That's a very within the betting
43:04
world. That's a very good bet.
43:06
I will be shocked if he loses the Hamzat.
43:07
The only way he can lose the Hamzat is if he gets just
43:09
crushed in the beginning. And I just don't see it, man.
43:12
I don't see it. He's so Derekis is a savage.
43:15
He's enormous. He's like my size, but he's a
43:17
middle weight 185, right? Yeah, dude's enormous.
43:21
There is a there is a Segway. There's a lesson that we can
43:24
bring back into the Jones Plantation discussion, and
43:27
that's the importance of fitness and self-defense.
43:31
Yeah, especially now I, I, I, you.
43:34
Can and if you can have a gun. Which, yeah, well, we hear my
43:41
thing with guns Here is the Second Amendment here is kind of
43:43
like a LARP because if they weren't making a bunch of money
43:45
off it, they just shut it down. You try to defend yourself here.
43:49
It's it's what they call that anarcho tyranny.
43:52
Where you can, if you go and run around and act like an asshole
43:55
on the subway, you can get away with it.
43:56
But if you defend them, then you're going to have to go to
43:58
trial. And they go after you because
44:00
they want to have make sure that nobody, they have to have a
44:03
monopoly on violence, but they have to have monopoly on
44:07
policing. You're not allowed to defend
44:08
yourself. They have to have a monopoly on
44:09
that because otherwise people would be going off.
44:12
There's a lot of, there are a lot of still a lot of very base
44:15
dudes here in the States that know how to use a gun and have
44:18
lots of them and they would go off.
44:19
But they're it's still too much police.
44:21
We can't quite do what we need to do.
44:23
But I say get guns because and same thing in your country.
44:28
It you guys are a little more broken down.
44:30
But at some point you're you're going to need to be able, you're
44:34
going to be able to use them. You better have them.
44:37
At some point you're going to be OK to use them.
44:39
Yeah, you mentioned ERA 15 earlier when you're talking
44:42
about Trump's assassination attempt.
44:46
Yeah, I actually, although I do like an AR15, I'll I'd prefer an
44:53
AK47. Have you shot 1?
44:56
No, and I'm not. I'm not opposed to that gun.
44:58
I like that gun too. I got an AR because I'm here and
45:02
there's a place called Palmetto State Armory here.
45:05
It's A and they're the guy super based and you can get he wants
45:08
to make the AR like R AK. So he's made these $500 ARS that
45:13
are indestructible. They're not, you know, they're
45:15
not the greatest thing, but they're, they're, they're pretty
45:18
awesome and they're, they're guaranteed for life.
45:20
So I bought, I just bought his because it was simple.
45:22
Just buy it. And you know, I'm not, but I
45:25
like, I, I would like to get an AK.
45:28
What do you like about it? What's superior about it?
45:31
It's just so gangster. Yeah, that's I'm with you.
45:34
Do you have a wooden one? Yeah, I don't have one.
45:38
I don't. I don't own it.
45:40
An AK? Why not?
45:41
I'd like to. I haven't bought, I just didn't
45:43
go raunted. Oh, like that's the kind of gun
45:46
you like. Just hold up dot dot dot dot
45:48
dot. You know what I mean?
45:48
That's just that's like one of those kind of guns.
45:50
Yeah, the AR is a little. Very accurate.
45:52
I mean, yeah, I mean, it's not. You just kind of just shoot
45:55
wildly like a shotgun. Yeah, I like that.
45:58
I like that. You want to hit something.
46:00
Yeah, yeah. And you can like run through the
46:02
freaking throw that thing in a river in the mud and pick it up
46:05
just but. You should throw it in the river
46:08
because it heats up. Does it just a piece of shit
46:12
that works? Yeah, Yeah, it just shoots the
46:16
guy. I just want to shoot the guy.
46:17
I just want to shoot the zombies, man.
46:19
I don't need to have the best gun in the world.
46:20
I just want a gun that works, that shoots the zombies.
46:22
That's all I need. What's the deal there?
46:24
Can you just like, is it so crazy again?
46:27
I don't want to. Is it so, like, wild there?
46:29
You can just, like, walk. If somebody comes into your
46:32
place, just blow them away and hey, hey, come get this body out
46:34
of here. Has it gotten to that point
46:36
there? No, it's no, no, no, no, no.
46:39
OK. Come drag this guy.
46:40
Out here, somewhat civilized. How is it OK?
46:44
But, but I will tell you this, I will tell you this, on more than
46:48
one occasion, different cops have told me and other people
46:53
who who don't know one another that if somebody does break into
46:58
our home, don't injure them, kill them.
47:03
Really, that's the rule of thumb.
47:05
Interesting. Why are you thinking they just
47:06
OK? Because if he's dead they're not
47:08
going to have any. He can't say anything.
47:11
You go all that and plus the police tend to just they, they
47:16
become so jaded. OK, Yeah, it was kind of like
47:22
that when I lived in Atlanta. I don't know if what you know
47:24
about hot Atlanta, but it was very dangerous city and I used
47:29
to work at this club there and I became friends with the cops.
47:33
Whatever you think of the government cops and they were
47:36
like, they said this almost the exact same thing you just said,
47:38
say if you get robbed, kill him because it's less paperwork.
47:42
Our private security force is 4 times larger than that of the
47:48
police. That sounds awesome.
47:51
Is it better? Oh.
47:54
Superior. Far superior.
47:58
I think that if I was a cop and I actually wasn't like a
48:03
scumbag, I was a serious cop, I would quit the force, get all
48:09
the dudes, the the men that I trust and respect, start a
48:13
private security company and go into one of these towns that's
48:16
having issues with the cops and say even like a one of these
48:19
like ghetto neighborhoods where the cops are not, you know, they
48:21
hate the cops for whatever reason.
48:23
Say, look, whatever funds you get, direct those funds to us
48:28
and hire us and we'll run your streets and there'll be no more
48:31
crime and we will work for you. We're not going to work for the
48:35
state. We work for you.
48:36
And so you can fire us and and it's just like the idea that the
48:42
police this we we go over to this in the in Barnum world, the
48:47
back the blue. That's another big Barnum
48:49
statement. They the idea that cops that are
48:51
paid by the government and have pensions.
48:53
They, they work for a certain period of time, then they sit on
48:55
their ass for the rest of their lives or go get a second job and
48:58
they get paid. The idea that they work for you
49:01
is just beyond idiotic. I mean just the simple
49:04
incentives alone you're going to work for who he pays you.
49:08
So they work for the state and that's been proven a million
49:12
times and people still can't the right.
49:15
It's all right wingers that have gotten brainwashed into this
49:17
back the blue psyop for loving government cops and to protect
49:21
and serve to protect and serve. That's the part of statement
49:26
they they can't wrap their head around this, that they every
49:30
single time the COVID thing was a perfect example.
49:32
They all did exactly what they were told to do and the only one
49:35
and a few people came and, you know, stood up against them and
49:39
got fired. There's a guy, there was a one
49:41
guy that went viral and he said I'm not enforcing this and he
49:43
got fired like the next day. Now, the only thing I would say
49:46
on that is that we do have a thing called sheriffs here.
49:48
We have a sheriff kind of thing and they have a lot of power and
49:52
they get elected by the people. So you can get some, you can get
49:57
some. There is freedom with the
50:02
sheriff. Where I live, we don't have
50:04
cops. We have sheriffs only.
50:06
And it's it's this is where I'm at is old school.
50:09
Like there's gun stores in every corner.
50:12
I've got it's bikers, real Cowboys.
50:15
I've got a rodeo down the street.
50:17
And then there's like rich boomers that move up here and
50:19
kind of like have like second houses or retire here.
50:22
And we don't have police. There's no taxes and it's
50:25
pretty, it's pretty based where I'm at, but I'm in a little
50:28
pocket, you know, I'm, I'm in, I'm in Phoenix greater, but the
50:33
I'm in my own thing. Like the aesthetic here is
50:35
completely different in Phoenix. So it's like a little western
50:36
town. So you actually like it.
50:38
It's really cool here. And so it's like I said.
50:42
It's one of the advantages of living here in South Africa.
50:47
We have a completely inept, incapable, useless, broken state
50:54
and and that's a good thing because it it, it provides a
50:58
sense of freedom. Right.
51:00
Yeah, Yeah, There's I, You want an inept government.
51:05
You want that? That's what I love about South
51:08
America and Latin and Central America.
51:10
Is that in Mexico? Is that it is when you say
51:15
chaotic, It's just feels freer to me.
51:18
You know, I was in when I was in Mexico.
51:21
I was in when I went to the conference this year and we
51:24
stayed in this little beach town in Acapulco.
51:27
And it was like a very poor beach town, but it had some cool
51:29
little the little hotel was really cool that we stayed at.
51:32
But it's right on the ocean. And it's like you go down there,
51:37
you can do whatever the hell you want.
51:39
You can build whatever the hell you want and it's completely
51:43
free. And the people are so relaxed
51:46
and happy, you know, like they've you go out in the
51:47
morning, the woman's got like live chickens hanging and like,
51:51
it's just whatever you see people just living their lives,
51:53
you know, do whatever you want to do, live your life.
51:54
But you know, nobody, there's no crime, there's no crime, there's
51:58
no nobody's. You're not, you're not going to
51:59
go around and do something to somebody else because you'd be
52:02
the they'll all kick the shit out of you and throw you out of
52:04
the neighborhood. You know, like everybody's just
52:06
living their lives. It's it was a very cool self
52:09
organizing kind of thing. And I like, like you're saying
52:12
when they say chaos, that's how they kind of scare us.
52:14
It's to me, it's just freedom. It's not so it's not controlled.
52:18
You know, it's not this, this, this psyop of safety, safety,
52:25
safety safeties. That's really how one of the
52:29
ways the state is able to convince people that they should
52:32
allow them to control them is this facade of safety, you know?
52:38
How can I follow you or your work?
52:41
Go to You can Call me on Twitter if you want at Tregs Mann 2 GS
52:45
and An S, but go to jonesplantationfilm.com and
52:49
watch that film if you haven't seen it yet.
52:51
If you don't want to go to our website.
52:52
It's on most of the major streaming services.
52:56
It's on Amazon and Apple TV and a bunch of the other ones.
53:00
And then you can watch Barnum World for free on my YouTube
53:03
channel at Drew Media TV. Just go.
53:06
Just just go to YouTube and type in Barnum World.
53:09
Andrew Tregear, thank you for joining me in the trenches all.
53:11
Right. Thanks man.