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Packers talk with Dave Sinykin, Vikings with Dane Mizutani, Steven M. Sipple on the Huskers vs. Michigan & Trent's Picks presented by Circa Sports · The Lunch Rush with Trent Condon

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  Hour number two Miller and Condon welcome back it's the
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  Iowa sports Radio network flagship at Des Moines sports
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  station one O 6.3 K snow wherever you're listing in the
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  state of Iowa grateful that you are or anywhere on the I heart
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  app still to come this hour momentarily Dave
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  sinicamzonecoverage.com on the Packers.
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  I will talk to Dane Moussutani, writes for the Saint Paul
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  Pioneer Press, covers the Vikings and then Stephen M
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  Simple head to Lincoln at about 1:30 preview Michigan and the
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  Huskers. That is a 2:30 Saturday kick.
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  Hello, Dave Synekin, your #30 of Packer preview on Sunday
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  morning. How are you today?
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  Good, Ken. Good to talk to you guys as
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  always. Yeah, absolutely.
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  Get right back at you and fun to watch this team, especially what
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  we're seeing a little bit of a mini buy after the Thursday game
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  last week against Washington. Now they had two Cleveland,
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  Dave. I've seen a lot of love for
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  Cleveland, particularly their defense, and there's a lot of
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  folks out there that think that this is a trickier spot than
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  just showing up and going to three and O and moving on to
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  take on the Cowboys next week. How do you feel about this game?
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  A little bit, a little bit of that apprehension, I think only
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  because if you look beyond the numbers, you see that this
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  defense is really good against the run.
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  Chase Brown and Derrick Henry have done nothing against the
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  defense and they held Joe Burrow to 7 yards passing in the
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  second-half of A1 possession game.
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  I mean, they're pretty legit defensively and Green Bay is
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  still not totally full on their offensive line.
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  So I think Cleveland could wreak some havoc against the Green Day
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  offense that's down a couple guys and make things kind of
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  muddy and kind of low scoring. I don't know how Cleveland
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  scores, but I do think points are going to be tricky and I am
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  a little concerned about looking ahead to the prime time game
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  against Dallas. I think they're coached well
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  enough to not. You've got a major issue, but
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  human nature says you're a big favorite.
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  Against the winless team that's lost eight straight just
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  starting a statue of quarterback, it all seems easy.
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  I just hope they don't just buy into all that.
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  Josh Jacobs suddenly shows up on the entry report with an ankle
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  injury. He's been running hard behind
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  that depleted offensive line. Well, take away on that and
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  Jacob's certainly a guy like you'd rather have him maybe take
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  a little bit of time off now and be ready for December of January
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  as opposed to struggling through an injury.
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  What can you tell us on that front?
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  Yeah, he's been really healthy in his year plus with the
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  Packers. He seems to play through with a
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  lot of stuff. I don't think there's a real
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  concern of him not playing. I do think you will see more of
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  Chris Brooks, who served their de facto #2 since Marshawn Lloyd
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  can't stay on the field and he gives them a little bit more do
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  everything than Emanuel Wilson does, and Brooks is really good
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  and pass protection. This feels like a day where if
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  you have to rest Jacobs a little bit more, put Chris Brooks on
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  the field to give those tackles some help on.
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  I'm Miles Garrett and Isaiah McGuire, so I expect a fairly
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  normal workload. Something to watch for sure.
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  And the bye weeks coming up Week 5, and that's when teams start
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  to be a little careful, knowing that some added rest might
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  really help. But he's a warrior.
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  I don't think that this is anything that's going to slow
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  him down too much. So is Tucker Craft.
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  Every time I watch him, I think he's getting better and better
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  and better. What's his ceiling?
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  Is there going to be a time here in the next couple of years that
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  we're talking, you know, once Kelsey he's gone, etcetera and
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  there's a change over, there's a new group of tight ends, maybe
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  Kittles getting a little long in the tooth.
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  Mike Tucker Crafts name be brought up very quickly.
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  We're talking about some of the better tight ends of the game,
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  and maybe he deserves to be right now.
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  Yeah, I think he's already in that, you know, top five
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  conversation, even though it, you know, he hasn't shown a
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  whole lot, obviously beyond what happened Thursday night.
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  I think he's that kind of a George Kittle arc.
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  You know, he's trained a lot with George Kittle.
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  He's pattered his game after Kittle.
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  And what Craft does really well behind all the fantasy numbers
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  is he's a great blocker, too. I mean, that's Kittle they
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  drafted, right When they drafted Luke Musgrave in the second
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  round and crafted the third. The narrative was, well,
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  Musgraves, your downfield threat, he crashes your blocker
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  and Craft has obviously shown he's much more than a blocker,
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  but he's really good at that. And I think on Sunday he will do
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  a lot of that too, helping out on that front 7, which is the
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  strength of that unit. I can see a lot of those plays
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  where he's blocking, blocking. Then he releases and and and
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  Love finds him. But yeah, I think the Sky's the
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  limit. He seems like he really gets it.
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  He's just scratching the surface and I think a top three, top
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  five tight end feels like his career arc if he could stay
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  healthy. You know, I saw something or or
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  heard something about the Packers.
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  They don't have a traditional number one, but Kraft, maybe he
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  can kind of turn into that de facto #1 if you will.
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  They got a bunch of number twos and number threes.
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  When you look through the course of the season, who are the wide
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  receivers you think are going to end up having a big year knowing
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  the injuries have already also to hit that room at this point?
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  Yeah, it's wild because two of the top four guys are out now
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  for at least a month. You know, Jaden reads out for
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  longer. Christian Watson should be back
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  week six, week 7, something like that.
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  So, you know, if Watson comes back healthy, he's in the mix
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  because of the combination of speed and everything he's done.
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  He's a great blocker on the field, too.
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  I mean, Matthew Golden, I think has the most upside.
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  And I know it's been a slow start and we've seen a couple of
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  just misses on long throws with Jordan Love.
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  I think they're going to get him more of the mix in the slot now
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  with Jaden Reed. God, I think Wix plays in the
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  slot as well. I think over these next four or
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  five weeks as they're undermanned a bit, you'll have a
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  Dobbs week, a golden week, a craft week.
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  I happen to think think this is the Ductavian Wicks week.
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  I think he's going to step in and you know, they went to him
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  early and some big third downs last week and he's showing he
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  can catch the ball, which has been his problem.
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  He's got everything else you want.
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  So I don't know that by the end of the season you're going to
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  say this guy is the absolute number one.
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  But I think at any given week, Golden, Watson, Dobbs.
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  Reed. Wicks Craft.
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  I mean, they get the guys that can all step up, and I know
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  that's not fun for guys that play fantasy, but it's also not
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  fun for defenses looking to key in on anybody because you really
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  can't. Are you enjoying this, Dave?
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  I mean, you think back you, you watch Brett Favre, you watched
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  Aaron Rodgers, you're now watching Jordan Love.
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  It was you know, it was quarterback, quarterback,
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  quarterback in the offense that goes along with it.
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  This team is there. I think their identity is is
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  that of a defensive football team right now.
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  No disrespect to love and company, but watching Rashawn
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  Geary we pay close attention to the Van Ness Devante Wyatt's
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  caught my eye so far this year. And of course the 4th I'm about
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  to say is Micah Parsons is not bad in his own right.
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  Is is it's different as a Packer fan this year, is it not?
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  Totally. I mean Edgar and Cooper Xavier.
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  There you go. Yeah.
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  They're they're they're on all three levels.
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  I'll say this as a guy living in the Twin Cities, I've had to
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  hear for the last 5-6 years from Viking fans.
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  Just wait, just wait till Aaron Rodgers retires 30 years of, you
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  know, drought in the desert for your team.
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  It's all over. We're never going to hear from
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  the Packers again. And, you know, here we are, as
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  you know, some say the NFC favorite of already through two
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  weeks. I'm not going to go that far.
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  But they're in the conversation and it is.
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  It is about the defense and Green Bay has been a Super Bowl
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  contender in the last, you know, 25 years.
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  It's the the far team was a great defense.
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  The Rodgers 2010 team was a great defense and that's where
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  it starts. And as a guy that grew up just
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  as the Lombardi era was ending, I remember the defense is what
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  that team was all about. I love having a team that is
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  known for its defense and I just feel like this team is only
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  going to get better. As you mentioned, all the young
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  guys stepping up, Devante Wyatt in particular, Edgar and Cooper
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  Quay Walker looks like a different guy.
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  I just as a football fan, I like nothing more than throwing out a
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  defense, and I think it slowed down anybody and going into a
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  game this weekend thinking a shutout is not out of the
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  question, firing turnovers. I don't know how Cleveland moves
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  the ball 50 or 60 yards against this team.
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  So you mentioned your locale up there in Minneapolis, JJ
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  McCarthy struggling, then to the South, the Bears with their
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  quarterback struggling. So as a Packer fan, I mean, what
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  gives you a little bit better Schadenfreude, right?
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  Is it the the Bears woes or the Vikings woes?
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  Well, I'm a born and bred Milwaukee guy who was taught to
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  hate the bears from the moment I can speak.
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  So when the bears under, sorry Trent, when the bears
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  underperform or are let down, nothing feels better for me in
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  the entire world. Being up here doing a Packer
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  show on the Viking station for 30 years, it's gotten a little
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  closer for me because I hear from the worst of Vikings fans
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  week in and week out. You know when they I've heard
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  about JJ McCarthy ad nauseam for a year and a half about how he's
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  the second coming. Just wait till Kevin O'Connell
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  gets hands on him and maybe he will.
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  He will do that, but he's nowhere close to that just yet,
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  and they have to question how long it might take him to get
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  there. I'm not surprised that you're
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  going to see Illinois and Indiana.
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  Normally it would have thought it would have been in January on
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  a Saturday or something like that, but it's a, it's, it's
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  dad's weekend on campus. You're going to be there for
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  Illinois in Indiana 6 30 NBC has the I I can't wait for it.
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  I really can't. It's appointment TV.
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  But what are you expecting to see?
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  You're an Indiana grad, you're going to be there for the game,
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  etcetera. Fun times to be a Hoosier.
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  What do you expect to see in that football game, Dave?
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  Well, first of all, the last couple of dads weekends this
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  weekend, I'd get to see Indiana play Akron and Charlotte.
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  So I'm really excited that they've got not only a big 10
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  game, but you know, a game featuring a top ten fighting a
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  line. I team which I haven't watched
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  yet this season. I I know that Beelam has really
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  turned that program around and Indiana has had it all tested
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  themselves through two weeks after beating up an Indiana
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  State 73. Nothing.
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  I'm excited to watch Fernando Mendoza, the quarterback from
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  Cal, who I do believe is going to be an early draft pick if he
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  stays healthy this year. He's got everything you want.
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  And there's been a lot of receivers.
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  Yeah, he's big. He's got a strong arm and he's
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  got a lot of weapons he can throw to.
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  So I'm, I'm anxious to watch him in person and see what he could
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  do against a really good Big 10 competition.
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  And I still think Indiana's a bit undervalued.
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  People look at last year's kind of flukish schedule wasn't that
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  hard. They've got Illinois, Iowa,
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  Oregon the next three weeks. So we will know all about Kurt
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  Stig Nettie's team this year. I, I'm cautiously optimistic
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  that this place, Memorial Stadium, is going to be so
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  different from I how I ever under the lights Saturday night.
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  So I can't wait to be there. I I think Indiana has a chance
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  to pull it out, but it's a really big test because I don't
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  like the way they've prepared for a game like this with the
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  competition they've played so. Far.
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  Well, we'll double dip with you next week and not in addition to
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  our Packers conversation in advance of the Dallas night
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  game, we'll ask you about Indiana, Iowa as well.
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  Dave, enjoy Parents weekend as you go back to your alma mater.
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  You should see a good game. Appreciate the conversation as
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  always, Dave. Thank you.
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  My pleasure guys, talk to you next week.
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  Good to talk to you, Dave. syndicatezonecoverage.com from
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  the Packers, the Vikings, Dane Mazatani, we stay in the Twin
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  Cities. twincities.com for you hockey fans will do a little
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  wild. Capril Karil Capris off met the
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  media for the first time since he said no no to his contract
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  extension. But we first of all start with
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  those Vikings in the news. Dane, as always, thank you first
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  of all, for joining us. JJ McCarthy out.
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  Let's start, I guess with him and potentially does this.
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  We may may Vikings fans potentially not see McCarthy
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  under center until after the bye week, after they get back from
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  the double dip across the pond. Yeah, I think that's the
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  operator. That's just some time kind of
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  operating under right now. That timeline hasn't been given
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  by Kevin O'Connell by the Vikings, but if you just zoom
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  out and look at it from a bigger picture standpoint, Carson Wentz
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  is going to play at this Sunday. Do you really want JJ McCarthy
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  to return at any point on that international trip and
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  especially with the BI kind of coming right after that?
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  This ankle injury is as bad as it seems.
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  It makes sense to kind of let that thing calm down.
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  The question is if Carson Wentz goes 3 and O, what do you do
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  coming out of that by against the Philadelphia Eagles?
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  That that is a question I think the Vikings would be happy to
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  answer because it would mean there's a tough decision because
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  Carson Wentz has played well, which means their playoff hopes
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  and positioning in the NFC North is still in good standing.
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  But certainly a lot of questions coming up Sunday was not good
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  for JJ McCarthy and got even worse when we found out the
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  ankle and through popped up. Certainly want to get that
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  running game going and we're behind the depleted offensive
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  line. That's tough to do a couple of
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  now with Aaron Jones's injury. Jordan Mason, though, a lot of
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  people love to pop out of him. I know he was kind of one of
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  those fantasy dark horse kind of guys coming into the season.
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  A lot of people like, what do they have with Mason and with
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  Jones at this point in his career?
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  If Mason plays well, could he become RB-1 even when Jones is
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  back healthy? Yeah, I think so.
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  I think there is an argument to be made that he maybe should
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  have been RB one right off the bat this season.
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  I think no disrespect to Aaron Jones, but the way the Vikings
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  have talked about running the ball seems to jive more with how
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  Jordan Mason runs the ball then how Aaron Jones runs the ball at
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  this point in his career. I do think when Aaron Jones is
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  back, he will have a role. But I think if Jordan Mason can
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  take the, you know, bull by the horns here, run with this
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  opportunity, he could carve out a needs for himself where he's
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  the guy getting a lion's share of the carries.
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  And Aaron Jones is just affecting the offense in a more
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  dynamic way and kind of on a spot by spot basis.
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  But yeah, I think Jordan Mason should have been more involved
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  in the offense in the first couple of weeks.
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  And I think he'll be more heavily involved in the offense.
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  Certainly now it's feeling doubt, but over the next few
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  weeks? It's been alarming to watch the
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  offensive line be as porous as they've been.
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  Quite honestly, I thought that this was going to be a strength.
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  They rebuilt it. Obviously, Darasaw hasn't been
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  able to play so far this year. What's the likelihood he's able
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  to answer the bell against Cincinnati this week?
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  Dane. Yeah, hard to say because you
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  can't really get a read on on where he's at and in the
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  recovery process. He's questionable week 1.
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  He's out Week 2. He logged a full practice
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  yesterday. That's good.
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  If he logs a full practice today, I would say the chances
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  are getting more likely that he will make his debut on Sunday.
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  However, if he if he's limited in participation like he's been
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  at times over the last couple of weeks, why?
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  I'm kind of working under the the idea or the thought that
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  he's probably going to need to log full participation days both
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  Wednesday, Thursday, Friday before the Vikings let him go.
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  Doesn't make sense to limit him on the practice field and say,
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  all right, Sunday, you're ready to go.
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  So I think the next check mark, at least from my perspective,
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  is, is he a full go today? If he is, then it will be is he
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  a full go tomorrow? If he logs three straight full
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  days, I would say there's a chance.
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  If he's limited at any time before then, I would say we're
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  probably waiting another week. What about Ryan Kelly, because
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  this is concussion and something that he's struggled with in his
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  career. Not a talent thing, but we're
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  talking about a brain injury. I know we're better
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  understanding of that, but you know, there's been just so many
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  stories of it. What can you tell us the latest
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  on that front? Yeah, he didn't practice
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  yesterday and I would be absolutely stunned if he plays
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  on Sunday. He's in the protocol right now.
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  I don't know the intricacies of how they're working him through
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  the protocol specifically because each case is on a case
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  by case basis. However, 4th documented
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  concussion if he plays on Sunday, if he's able to somehow
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  clear the concussion protocol before then, I would probably
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  take a sex an exception with that, just with the way kind of
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  his career has gone at this point.
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  I think we've learned so much about brain injuries.
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  I out the floor to peace on the field on Sunday, which is
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  obviously a huge loss for the Vikings.
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  No doubt. What about the defense?
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  Obviously Bernard Van Ginkkel. He's out.
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  Harrison Smith is yet to play with an illness.
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  It's just odd. What about those 3?
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  Bernard Van Ginkkel and the Hitman.
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  Yeah, Bernard, he suffered an oblique injury in the game.
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  It looked way worse in real time.
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  He popped back up. He actually ends up getting a
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  sack in the game. He was limited yesterday in
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  practice, but I think he'll be fine.
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  There's no indication that that's going to be something
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  that knocks him out this weekend.
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  Andrew Van Ginkkel, he's working through the concussion protocol
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  still. He was limited yesterday.
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  I think he's trending in the right direction.
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  But just looking at how Andrew Van Ginkkel situation was
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  handled last week, I think you can get a good idea that Ryan
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  Kelly will not play. Van Ginkkel was in the
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  concussion protocol, missed the game.
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  He is, I think graduated kind of into the next step of that.
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  So I think there's a chance he's ready for Sunday.
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  And for Harrison Smith, it's still something, it's a wait and
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  see kind of thing. How much can he handle?
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  He's getting close. I know that the details of of
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  the personal health issue aren't aren't made public, but I think
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  he's getting close. He was limited in practice
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  yesterday. I think Harrison Smith is
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  someone, though not necessarily in need of a of a full week of
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  full participation. He's been around the block, he's
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  done this. If he's ready to go and and
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  deemed OK to go by Sunday, I think they'd just feel
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  comfortable throwing him out on the field.
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  So Carson Wentz with the start on Sunday, he will make history.
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  He will be the first quarterback to make six starts for six
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  different teams in six years. We've seen KOC do this before,
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  right? Guys off the scrap, even get
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  guys off the practice last year, Dobbs with a half week of
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  practice and there he is. So the anticipation is, well,
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  he'll be able to do it with anybody.
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  Do you have that same confidence with Carson Wentz?
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  I do because Carson Wentz has played 94 or made 94 starts in
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  the NFL. You you don't have.
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  There aren't simply a lot of backups out there with that
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  level of experience under the under their belt.
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  Carson Wentz is not the player he was when he was the number
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  two overall pick out of NBSUI. Think that's obvious at this
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  point. He's a decade into his career.
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  He's going to back up over the last two stops of his career
• 18:25
  with the Los Angeles Rams and the Kansas City Chiefs.
• 18:28
  But I do think experience matters here.
• 18:30
  And even though it's a crash course, he had been admitted to
• 18:33
  us yesterday. This is kind of unlike anything
• 18:35
  he's ever gone through. Arriving kind of so late in
• 18:38
  training camp, learning everything in, taking
• 18:41
  everything, thinking you're going to be the backup and then
• 18:43
  all of a sudden you're the starter.
• 18:45
  But I think you can really lean on that experience with Carson
• 18:48
  Wentz. Doesn't mean he's going to go
• 18:50
  light up the world and throw a 350 and four touchdowns, but I,
• 18:54
  I, I think the offense will function with him leading the
• 18:57
  charge. I think just simply because he's
• 18:59
  been there, he's done that 94 starts, like I said, that that
• 19:03
  that is experience that frankly, not a lot of players in his
• 19:06
  situation would have. So I think that bodes well, the
• 19:10
  Vikings, as they try to get him wrapped up and ready to go.
• 19:13
  Switching gears just a couple of minutes on on hockey, Karil
• 19:16
  Caprisaf had an opportunity to become the highest paid player
• 19:19
  in the history of the NHL. He turned that down for whatever
• 19:22
  reason with the salary cap looking like it's going to go up
• 19:24
  at one point, maybe he didn't want to leave money on the table
• 19:27
  or term. I know Bill Guerin, the GM, he
• 19:30
  met with the media today. Caprisaf met with the media
• 19:32
  today. He's not going to say anything.
• 19:34
  I wouldn't think his agent might have already also been there.
• 19:37
  I guess Jane just brought broadly what's, what's your take
• 19:40
  on this thing? Do Wild fans should they be
• 19:43
  concerned at this point that Capri Soft may not be a member
• 19:47
  of their the team that they root for?
• 19:48
  For you know, till his career comes to an end or certainly the
• 19:51
  foreseeable future? Yeah, I mean, I think it's
• 19:54
  probably fair to start worrying just because until he's under
• 19:58
  contract with the way things have kind of gotten out
• 20:02
  publicly, I think it it's certainly worth.
• 20:06
  You know, sounding at least a little bit of the alarms right
• 20:09
  now because there's just so much unknown still credit to Bill
• 20:14
  Garen. He said all the right things.
• 20:16
  He said, you know, obviously they want to sign girl Capri saw
• 20:20
  they've made that very clear to him and credit to Carell.
• 20:24
  I mean, he he kind of took it as a chance to say all the right
• 20:29
  things as well. He loves being here.
• 20:32
  He thinks they can win the Stanley Cup here.
• 20:34
  But all of those things that are being said publicly are just for
• 20:38
  appearances as far as I'm concerned.
• 20:41
  What what's going on right now behind the scenes is something
• 20:45
  that until this negotiation is ironed out, I would be a little
• 20:49
  bit concerned. I'm not saying he's going to get
• 20:51
  traded tomorrow, but I'm saying it's worth the level of concern
• 20:56
  until this thing is figured out. It's gotten to that point.
• 21:00
  So Bill Guerin says this won't be a distraction, that the team
• 21:04
  won't let it become a distraction.
• 21:05
  But the truth is, it's going to be a distraction until he puts
• 21:09
  pen to paper. Good stuff.
• 21:10
  Cincinnati on Sunday, Cincinnati, Minnesota course,
• 21:13
  you can hear the game right here.
• 21:14
  Paul Allen has the call of that one and company kick off, of
• 21:19
  course, at noon. Dane.
• 21:20
  Great stuff as always. Appreciate the conversation.
• 21:23
  twincities.com, Saint Paul, Pioneer Press, beat writer for
• 21:27
  the Vikings and obviously keeping an eye on the Wild and
• 21:30
  the Twins and everything else as well.
• 21:31
  Thank you, Dane, have a great week.
• 21:33
  Appreciate it. Anytime, guys.
• 21:35
  Thank you very much. Dane Moussutani St.
• 21:37
  Paul Pioneer Press. All right, good stuff out of
• 21:39
  Dane good stuff out of Dave Sinican going to be in
• 21:42
  Bloomington tomorrow. That's pretty cool.
• 21:43
  Or Saturday. Absolutely, absolutely good for
• 21:46
  him. All right, take your time out.
• 21:48
  We'll come back. We'll head W to Lincoln.
• 21:51
  Simple join us all Wolverines Huskers.
• 21:54
  That's conversation is next. Millerine Condon on the Iowa
• 21:57
  Sports Radio Network. I'm Miller Condon.
• 21:59
  Welcome back just past 130 on a Thursday coming up at the top of
• 22:05
  the hour off the bench. Lucas and Sean take you until 5
• 22:09
  trends Plays of the day still to come as well.
• 22:11
  Obviously Thursday Night Football.
• 22:13
  Guessing that will be a part of his plays of the day.
• 22:16
  Well, 2:30 Saturday afternoon, it's Michigan on their way to
• 22:22
  take on the Huskers of Nebraska. 3 and O versus 2 and 1, Stephen
• 22:27
  M simple Husker illustrated. He joins us Sip.
• 22:30
  I can't wait for this football game.
• 22:32
  I'm guessing the fan base kind of feels the same way, right?
• 22:35
  It's been good to, you know, to see the the squad, whether it be
• 22:38
  Cincinnati over Arrowhead or the two last weeks.
• 22:42
  Not that deepest waters competition wise, but here we
• 22:45
  go. Here comes Michigan, here comes
• 22:47
  Big 10 play a lot of cache surrounding this game sip good
• 22:51
  to talk to you how are you and what's the.
• 22:53
  Buzz, oh, Buzz is significant. I've had a bunch of coffee
• 22:57
  that's part of it, but I can't literally wait for the game.
• 23:03
  I'm I'm we're the similar age and I still, I feel like a
• 23:10
  little kid on weeks like this. I can't wait till 2:30.
• 23:13
  I can't wait till that first series.
• 23:15
  You know that, you know, it's probably Bud Crawford going to
• 23:18
  lead him out of the tunnel, all of that.
• 23:21
  I mean, it's this is, oh, it's a big one here.
• 23:23
  We got a big one this week 1. Yeah, and you look through this
• 23:26
  is the time we've heard about Matt rule year #3 they took
• 23:29
  steps in year #2 last year and now it's kind of put up for shut
• 23:33
  up time. This is a Michigan team.
• 23:35
  We saw Underwood in the road environment.
• 23:36
  It wasn't certainly a lead against Oklahoma.
• 23:39
  We know this is going to be a charged up atmosphere as well
• 23:41
  for him in this one. It feels like SIP we've talked
• 23:45
  about for the last two decades. Excuses are over.
• 23:47
  Go out and win this football game.
• 23:49
  And that's what it feels to me. I think there are so many
• 23:51
  advantages, so many of those check marks in the Nebraska
• 23:54
  side. You can't afford to lose this
• 23:56
  when the time has to be now. Now, I appreciate the thought
• 24:05
  provoking manner in which you asked that question.
• 24:07
  I, I don't know that I'd say it, put up or shut up at this.
• 24:12
  Since we've been playing this game for 20 years.
• 24:13
  I mean, they got to do something, don't they?
• 24:17
  Well, I guess I mean, I don't I'll split hairs with you a
• 24:20
  little bit if you don't mind. I, I would say I need some
• 24:23
  evidence. I do that a lot around.
• 24:26
  I don't say if they if they lose this, I'm done with this.
• 24:30
  One. Well, yeah, that's fair.
• 24:32
  Yes, yeah. Shut down the program, it's
• 24:36
  over. Yeah, don't do that.
• 24:38
  Yeah, get. Rule out here.
• 24:39
  No, I I understand where you're coming from.
• 24:42
  I would just say I'd like some evidence now and I think it's OK
• 24:47
  to ask for evidence. It's tier 3 and you know,
• 24:52
  there's still Trent. Now it is this is a weird kind
• 24:55
  of a weird team at Nebraska because they have some veterans
• 24:58
  playing key roles, but it's a young team.
• 25:01
  So I mean, I'm with you in Michigan.
• 25:05
  Hey, that's the big thing to drive home is Michigan's not
• 25:09
  that's not this isn't hardball Michigan.
• 25:11
  It's really not. There's obviously there's good
• 25:15
  players over there and they're deep on the D line, but they're
• 25:18
  not really good up front on offense.
• 25:20
  They don't have I mean, Nebraska's think about this for
• 25:23
  a second. Nebraska's got better receivers
• 25:24
  than Michigan. I don't.
• 25:27
  That's the way the world's changed the last quarter
• 25:29
  century. But I, I, I, it's big and I want
• 25:35
  evidence. I do.
• 25:36
  But I wouldn't say it's a must win or put up or shut up or
• 25:39
  anything like that. Where where the angle of the
• 25:41
  game that I'm kind of focused in on SIP is the quarterbacks and,
• 25:44
  and how where they were ranked in their respective coming out
• 25:49
  years. I mean, Underwood, the number
• 25:50
  one quarterback. I think Rayola was the number
• 25:52
  one quarterback his year. Of course, Arch Manning's all on
• 25:55
  those lists as well. But these are two upper echelon
• 25:58
  quarterbacks coming out of high school and going into college.
• 26:01
  I think this might be match up that's going to have a lot of
• 26:04
  intrigue, yeah. Yeah, it is.
• 26:07
  I mean, I think if you just want to get to the essence of this
• 26:11
  game from I guess if you're looking at Nebraska's defense
• 26:15
  versus Michigan's offense, the essence is kind of football one
• 26:19
  O 1. It's you want to put some heavy
• 26:24
  pressure on that freshman quarterback in the den of
• 26:27
  Memorial Stadium. You know, you want it to, you
• 26:30
  want it to be, you want to get him a little rattle, but you
• 26:32
  know, you know, you can't do it if it's second four can't do it
• 26:36
  if it's third and one can't do it if you don't get the third
• 26:38
  down, right. So this is all about just the
• 26:41
  pain. You guys know who he is.
• 26:42
  He's #22 from this easily their best back.
• 26:46
  They don't really have their backups, not even close.
• 26:50
  So it's just the same. I think #22 is the key to this
• 26:53
  game. And if they, if you hear we
• 26:56
  watching it, you guys will be watching it.
• 26:57
  And you know what, you know what the deal will be.
• 27:00
  If it's they come out and they're Michigan moving the line
• 27:03
  of scrimmage and it's, it is it's second and four
• 27:06
  consistently or second five or second three, then what?
• 27:10
  There's really no pressure on this quarterback.
• 27:13
  And then the other layers of that conversation is if you can
• 27:16
  put pressure on him, then OK, he got pressure on him, but also
• 27:22
  he's throwing into your strength, which is the
• 27:24
  secondary. So that's that's a critical
• 27:27
  layer to this. Nebraska's got a real secondary.
• 27:30
  It's good. It kind of takes me back to the
• 27:32
  Fellini years there. That's a real good secondary.
• 27:36
  So make him, make him throw into that bat.
• 27:41
  But you know, Hank, Hank's getting 175 yards kind of a
• 27:45
  moot. Point, right?
• 27:46
  Yeah, he he was really good against Oklahoma.
• 27:48
  I don't know how many yards he rushed for, but I know he broke
• 27:50
  a hundo in that game. He was one of their better
• 27:53
  players. 60. Six.
• 27:55
  He got 100, he got 140. But 175?
• 27:59
  Changes the equation. Yeah, I'll say.
• 28:01
  Nebraska's giving up 66 yards per game through the air, which
• 28:05
  is ridiculous, and we go back to the Cincinnati game to look.
• 28:07
  I didn't watch a snap against Akron or Houston Baptist outside
• 28:11
  of the little 3 minute recap. That's all I saw in either of
• 28:14
  those games. 66 is ridiculous. I mean, that's Deacon Hill
• 28:17
  territory we're talking about there.
• 28:19
  But we just lost, oh, we lost Sep.
• 28:20
  He didn't like it. He doesn't want to talk about
• 28:22
  the past defense. No, he does.
• 28:24
  He's ringing back right now. We'll we'll get him back on.
• 28:27
  Yeah. We got some more thing mower
• 28:28
  ground to cover with sip trench plays of the day coming up in
• 28:30
  about 12 minutes. By the way, let's get him back
• 28:33
  on here. We lost you there momentarily,
• 28:35
  brother. OK, I got you.
• 28:38
  Please drop. So I was asking about that 66
• 28:40
  yards per game. I mean, that's not anything that
• 28:43
  you're going to be able to live on by any means.
• 28:45
  But you mentioned this is the strength of the team.
• 28:48
  Just how good is it though? I mean, are we talking about an
• 28:51
  elite level that they're going to be able to shut down
• 28:53
  everybody throughout the course of the year that good a pass
• 28:56
  defense? No, I mean, it's not listen, you
• 29:00
  know how Trent, you got you guys watch a lot of football.
• 29:02
  The conversations are more complicated.
• 29:05
  They're not Nebraska is not very good up front.
• 29:08
  So you know, I don't know. They can't just hold up against
• 29:12
  a team that has a lot of time to throw.
• 29:15
  Nobody, but nobody can. If if Nebraska were good up
• 29:19
  front, it would look like a Fellini defense.
• 29:22
  So if you remember the Fellini defenses that were really good,
• 29:24
  like, oh, nine, 2010, that area, this this is that type of
• 29:29
  secondary. But they don't have Sue, you
• 29:33
  know, they don't have Jared, Chris, they don't have those.
• 29:37
  So they don't even even approaching that.
• 29:40
  So it's a little different kind of conversation.
• 29:42
  But no, they're not they're not good enough to overcome
• 29:47
  anything. But they're it's a, you know,
• 29:49
  they're they're very good. It's like I said, the best I can
• 29:52
  say, Trent, if you think of those Bellini teams that were so
• 29:55
  good in the secondary, if they they would pretty well in that
• 29:59
  era. Since he was one of my favorite
• 30:02
  players when he was in college, how did they take me back to the
• 30:05
  Indomican Sioux? How did he get to Nebraska?
• 30:07
  Sip. What was the what clinched the
• 30:09
  deal for him to go to Lincoln NE?
• 30:12
  I mean, he was, you know, he's an Oregon kid.
• 30:16
  I don't hit me with a question I can't honestly answer.
• 30:21
  He wasn't. He was highly recruited, but
• 30:25
  not, not crazy, you know, it wasn't crazy.
• 30:27
  And he didn't really do much early in his career here.
• 30:31
  He didn't really materialize till the end of his sophomore
• 30:35
  year. But I don't, I don't, you know,
• 30:38
  so long ago. I don't remember what I'd have
• 30:41
  to. It'll probably hit me right when
• 30:43
  I hang up, but. I.
• 30:45
  You know how that goes. I mean.
• 30:49
  Well, one thing fairly obvious, because Nebraska was still going
• 30:54
  pretty good back then, you know, so they could, they were
• 30:57
  getting, hey, he was part of a run of guys, a run of classes
• 31:02
  that Nebraska was recruiting at a super high level.
• 31:06
  So you could sell that they were, I mean, they were like a
• 31:10
  top 10 recruiting machine for a while there.
• 31:13
  Then that tailed off to like everything else.
• 31:16
  I'm looking right now and it said a big reason for his
• 31:20
  commitment was his relationship with John Blake, who was at, of
• 31:23
  course, Mississippi State before that and came on.
• 31:26
  And that was one of the main reasons.
• 31:27
  That and the chance to play early.
• 31:29
  But I'm looking through some of the recruiting articles here.
• 31:32
  John Blake, how about that? Gave him a little something
• 31:34
  there with Sue. What a player.
• 31:36
  Yeah, the late John Blake and and the late John Blake was on
• 31:39
  that staff and he was a incredible recruiter.
• 31:42
  I mean, that was that John in the essence was that he was AD
• 31:48
  line coach, but a fabulous, fabulous recruiter.
• 31:52
  And Bill Callahan put guys like John Blake and Bill Bush.
• 31:58
  Those guys were amazing recruiters.
• 32:01
  So that's that's how it all went down.
• 32:03
  I want to ask you some about you said early in when we had you
• 32:07
  got you here, Sip Bud. Crawford's going to lead the
• 32:09
  team out. Just remarkable fight last
• 32:12
  weekend. What does he mean?
• 32:13
  He's an Omaha guy, but what what does he mean to the state of
• 32:17
  Nebraska? I mean, he's one of their own.
• 32:18
  He's a multi champion. It's boxing.
• 32:21
  It's not what what's was, but but he's still one of those
• 32:24
  names you recall in the, you know, the later stages of his
• 32:28
  career. What will that be like when he
• 32:30
  leads him out of the tunnel? Is he that revered?
• 32:33
  Yeah. Now hold on, not for sure that
• 32:35
  he leads the match, OK. We think he did against Colorado
• 32:39
  last year, remember, and we think it could be the case.
• 32:44
  I'd be kind of surprised if it's not, but I don't think they want
• 32:47
  to announce it or anything like that because, you know, that can
• 32:51
  be quite a scene when he just materialized.
• 32:54
  You know. What does he mean to Nebraska a
• 32:57
  lot? He is he's very true to Omaha
• 33:01
  means he's very he's a very low key champ.
• 33:06
  Like he's he's out and about. He's not he doesn't make himself
• 33:11
  a big deal. He's he's really a like his
• 33:15
  humility is striking to me for someone who's now you have to
• 33:19
  say that he's the best power profound fighter in the world.
• 33:24
  He lives in Omaha, NE. He's never lived anywhere else,
• 33:27
  probably never will. His mom still lives there.
• 33:31
  It's just that's that's he's Omaha and he hey, he loves the
• 33:35
  football program here. I mean, like it's it's a
• 33:38
  legitimate relationship, which is why I think you'll see him
• 33:43
  and it'll oh, hey, can he be there for that?
• 33:47
  The stadium, But it'll be crazy. It'd be nuts.
• 33:49
  It's going to be crazy. 2:30 Saturday afternoon.
• 33:52
  Sip. I am locked and loaded and Iowa
• 33:54
  plays on Friday night and the clones are off.
• 33:56
  The slate is empty for me on Saturday, pal.
• 33:59
  Other than your game, a Big 12 game early and a Big 10 game
• 34:02
  prime time Indiana Illinois sip bye week next week.
• 34:05
  But you're not off with Miller and Condon.
• 34:07
  We're going to track you down and and get the lay of the land.
• 34:10
  All right, buddy. Yeah.
• 34:12
  I look forward to hearing your guys's thoughts on this.
• 34:14
  I really. Do I don't I look?
• 34:16
  Forward to that. Put up or shut up, SIP.
• 34:18
  There you go. See you pal.
• 34:22
  See you buddy. Good to talk to you.
• 34:24
  Steven M Simple Husker, illustrated on three media.com,
• 34:28
  covered the Huskers for decades. Do you have that feeling,
• 34:30
  though? I think Nebraska's going to win
• 34:32
  this weekend, so maybe I don't. You don't.
• 34:34
  What about Michigan that says? I think they learned a lot
• 34:39
  against Oklahoma. That does help, absolutely,
• 34:41
  yeah. Because Underwood was not good
• 34:43
  in that football game. I just haven't been blown away
• 34:47
  by. I mean, the Cincinnati game, if
• 34:49
  it would have, should have, absolutely.
• 34:51
  I mean. Can make some play on the ball
• 34:52
  in the end zone or we're having a completely different
• 34:54
  conversation. And Can you imagine if they
• 34:57
  started O and one again? Yeah.
• 35:00
  I guess we've seen it before, so it's not that difficult to
• 35:02
  imagine. Not a real big leap to get
• 35:04
  there. That's funny.
• 35:05
  You're good today, good every day.
• 35:08
  Hayes is. He's a, he's a hell of a player.
• 35:10
  He's a hell of a player. 11. Yep.
• 35:12
  Oh, it's going to be fascinating.
• 35:13
  I can't wait. Miller and Condon, 145.
• 35:16
  Trent's plays the days on a He's on a roll, folks.
• 35:18
  He is on a heater right now. Let's even keep it going.
• 35:21
  Miller and Condon on Des Moines sports station one O 6.3 KX&O in
• 35:26
  the Iowa Sports Radio Network. All right, Miller and Condon
• 35:29
  welcome back final couple of minutes of our Thursday show
• 35:32
  tomorrow. Kay, Kurt Heinz Palm Bama.
• 35:38
  That's the line up of guests that will join Trent tonight to
• 35:40
  talk football. Pretty good 4 pack.
• 35:43
  Yeah, I'll say by the way, this is we got football before this.
• 35:46
  I don't want to look past this weekend 'cause it's gonna be
• 35:49
  bananas. It can't wait.
• 35:50
  Penn State. These are at Circa already
• 35:52
  released. Penn State will open as a
• 35:53
  three-point favorite over Oregon in the white out of Penn State,
• 35:57
  Georgia 3 1/2 over Alabama. Those are the 2 two of the
• 36:02
  bigger games that they posted the Lions for as of now.
• 36:06
  Kind of like the Ducks. I really like the Ducks.
• 36:09
  I can they win? Can they win the conference?
• 36:12
  Yeah, I think so. Can they win the national
• 36:14
  championship? Yeah.
• 36:15
  Good. Let's get your plays of the day.
• 36:18
  Another puff play. No, it's.
• 36:20
  Already been. It's already in My Portfolio,
• 36:22
  yeah. 3 plays for tonight and nothing in baseball.
• 36:26
  What I didn't do the card for all the day games going on not
• 36:30
  realizing and didn't cobble anything together.
• 36:33
  Nothing at night grabbed me. So we go here first to the West
• 36:37
  where the Indiana Fever go back on the road.
• 36:40
  It has not gone well against Atlanta this year outside of
• 36:42
  game two of the series. I think it comes crashing down.
• 36:45
  I'm going to lay the seven without.
• 36:46
  End it right? Yes, Game 3.
• 36:49
  This is the decider tonight to college football.
• 36:53
  Asked you about the Owls. It didn't do anything for you.
• 36:55
  It does for me. Give me rice.
• 36:56
  I'll lay the two as they go on the road to Charlotte and
• 36:59
  wrapping things up, there's a 12 1/2 in the market and I'm gonna
• 37:04
  grab it. Is there really I'm?
• 37:05
  Gonna grab it with the Dolphins. It's just divisional game.
• 37:09
  Short week, maybe? Hopefully.
• 37:13
  Oliver Milano both out for buff. Final just in 31 three Daniel's
• 37:18
  fired has to find his own way home back to Buffalo.
• 37:21
  But I'm, I'm gonna grab it. I just, I, I think it's.
• 37:24
  That's a ton of points. It's a ton of points for a
• 37:25
  divisional game. Yep.
• 37:27
  No, I'm with you. I hope it's a good game.
• 37:29
  I really do. It'd be nice to see a good
• 37:31
  football game. Dolphins, man, that franchise.
• 37:36
  We're talking about how Snake bit the Bears are.
• 37:38
  Yeah, they have less playoff wins than the Bears do in the
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  last. 30 years. Yeah, really too.
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  Well, it didn't know it was that bad.
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  That will do it for us. Appreciate you being here.
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  We'll leave you on that note, Dolphins fans.
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  We'll be back tomorrow. We're Trent and I are here every
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  Monday through Friday, Miller and Condon to talk sports with
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  you from noon to two. Off THE bench is coming up next.
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  And the first quarter gets underway tomorrow morning as it
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  always does, at 6:00 AM. Thanks for being with us, Miller
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  and Condon on the Iowa Sports Radio Network.