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Katie Woolf spoke with Deputy Opposition Leader Gerard Maley · 360 with Katie Woolf

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  Speaker 1: Three sixty with Katie Wolf on Mixed one oh four
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  Speaker 1: point nine thanks to Joyce main Darwin. Joining us in
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  Speaker 1: the studio right now is the Deputy Opposition leader Jared Mayley.
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  Speaker 2: Good morning, Good morning Katie, and good morning listeners.
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  Speaker 1: Now, Jared, obviously we've got you on this morning. I
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  Speaker 1: wanted to talk to you in your role as the
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  Speaker 1: shadow Minister for Recreational Fishing. But before we get to that,
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  Speaker 1: I just want to get your take on the fact
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  Speaker 1: that we've just heard in the local news with Maddi Hepworth,
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  Speaker 1: an eighty year old woman was targeted yesterday by a
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  Speaker 1: fifteen year old girl at Casuarina in terms of a
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  Speaker 1: handbag theft. Now, that on its own, I think is
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  Speaker 1: pretty terrible behavior. But then when you look at what's
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  Speaker 1: happened last week in Alice Springs, there were two incidents
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  Speaker 1: which saw elderly women targeted. There was also a man
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  Speaker 1: who was sitting at a cafe I believe he was
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  Speaker 1: in his sixties who'd been targeted. I mean, we reached
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  Speaker 1: a situation in the territory at the moment where older
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  Speaker 1: people are being preyed upon.
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  Speaker 2: Certainly, did you just show the complete lack of leadership
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  Speaker 2: by the Gun and government. Last week in parliament to
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  Speaker 2: COLP tried to talk about crime. That's centiers were made.
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  Speaker 2: They were rejected. We put up a matter of public important,
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  Speaker 2: we talked about crime. Only one member of the Labor
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  Speaker 2: Party spoke about it. They simply got their head in
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  Speaker 2: the sand. And when you talk about crime in genuine
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  Speaker 2: then you go to the scene, which is even worse.
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  Speaker 2: These people are basically old, they're vulnerable and they can't
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  Speaker 2: defend themselves, and these people are picking on it. It's
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  Speaker 2: just unacceptable.
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  Speaker 1: Yeah, I find it really disgraceful behavior. I think, you know,
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  Speaker 1: if you can't respect sceniors in the community, who can
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  Speaker 1: you respect is really you know the way that I feel,
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  Speaker 1: especially when you're talking about teenagers. And I don't know
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  Speaker 1: what we need to do here to make some change
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  Speaker 1: in this space, but something's got to change. You can't
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  Speaker 1: have a situation where you've got older people who don't
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  Speaker 1: feel safe go in the shops.
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  Speaker 2: It's just unacceptable. These people are up here, they're still
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  Speaker 2: investing in the community, they're spending their money. They don't
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  Speaker 2: want to go because generally they've got family and they've
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  Speaker 2: got friends up here and they can't even feel safe
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  Speaker 2: to go shopping and go down the moor or go
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  Speaker 2: for a walk. It's just unacceptable. It just shows that
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  Speaker 2: there are no consequences for the young offenders who think
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  Speaker 2: they are above them law and can do what they want.
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  Speaker 1: The government say that they're implementing a raft of different changes.
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  Speaker 1: They rattled some of them off this morning. I know
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  Speaker 1: that they've been talking about them over the last couple
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  Speaker 1: of weeks. Some of those are changes to the ring
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  Speaker 1: leaders legislation or law. Do you think any of that's
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  Speaker 1: going to make a difference.
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  Speaker 2: Well, from my understanding is the ring leaders legislation, there's
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  Speaker 2: all rery laws that cover that, the whole joint criminal
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  Speaker 2: responsibility laws. So if you do things together you don't
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  Speaker 2: have to necessarily do the crime yourself. But if you're
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  Speaker 2: a help planner and you are involved in it, well
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  Speaker 2: you can still get charged. So obviously what they're doing
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  Speaker 2: is not enough. Our statistics are going through the roof,
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  Speaker 2: and if you look at the crime stats for last year,
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  Speaker 2: thirty percent up, twenty eight percent up, fifty eight percent
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  Speaker 2: up when all that alcohol related DV alcohol related crime,
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  Speaker 2: and that's including a three month with a biosecurity zone
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  Speaker 2: where people were back staying away from the town. So
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  Speaker 2: imagine if that wasn't there. So it's just really really disgraceful.
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  Speaker 2: And gun is just not doing enough. They've got the
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  Speaker 2: head in the sand. They've had ample opportunity, and I
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  Speaker 2: think Michael Gunner was an is show saying baal is
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  Speaker 2: not an issue. That's just on acceptable.
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  Speaker 1: Some of those stats show that, you know, some of
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  Speaker 1: the property crime and that has gone down, though, I
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  Speaker 1: mean it's hard. I suppose for our listeners. It's really
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  Speaker 1: hard because with some of the stats saying all right,
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  Speaker 1: things have gone down, others are saying, you know, some
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  Speaker 1: of these issues have gone up. But at the end
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  Speaker 1: of the day, it comes down to whether people feel
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  Speaker 1: safe or not. I think, and you know, if you
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  Speaker 1: have older people in the community who are worried when
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  Speaker 1: they go out to do their shopping or go to
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  Speaker 1: an ATM, it's just not good.
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  Speaker 2: Enough, just unacceptable. Michael Gunner and the Gunner lay of
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  Speaker 2: a government need to step up. They need to show
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  Speaker 2: some leadership. They need to stop trying to cover up scandals.
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  Speaker 2: They need to really go out into the community and
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  Speaker 2: listen to what's going on. The Country Liberal Party. We
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  Speaker 2: had a meeting in our Springs. We walked up and
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  Speaker 2: down the mall, we met business owners, we had lunch
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  Speaker 2: in the city. Leah went out with the security people
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  Speaker 2: along with Josh. They saw what's going on down there.
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  Speaker 2: Time for Gunner to get their head out of the
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  Speaker 2: stand and do the same thing because it's unacceptable these
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  Speaker 2: old people, any sort of crimes unacceptable.
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  Speaker 1: I know that in Parliament last week the opposition old
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  Speaker 1: you guys, negative nancies. They said that you're talking the
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  Speaker 1: territory down. Is that what you're doing.
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  Speaker 2: No, what we're trying to do is we go out
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  Speaker 2: there into the community and people come to me and
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  Speaker 2: talk to me about crime. Right across all our members.
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  Speaker 2: We just find it really hard to believe that those
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  Speaker 2: people other people aren't going into alpace, held seats and
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  Speaker 2: talking to them, because they must be, because it is
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  Speaker 2: right across. So we're out there, we're listening to territories
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  Speaker 2: and trying to bring their concern into Parliament because that's
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  Speaker 2: what our job is.
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  Speaker 1: Hey, I want to move along because we know that
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  Speaker 1: those changes came into place yesterday. When it comes to
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  Speaker 1: being able to access thousands of kilometers of the Northern
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  Speaker 1: Territories coastline for fishing. I know that you are obviously
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  Speaker 1: the minister in well the shadow minister, I should say,
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  Speaker 1: for recreational fishing. You reckon that the government's completely failed
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  Speaker 1: recreational fishes. After the NLC made this announcement yesterday. How's
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  Speaker 1: the government failed fishes with this? I mean, isn't it
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  Speaker 1: something that the NLC has to work on?
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  Speaker 2: Look, first, I want to start with I respect the
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  Speaker 2: traditional owners. The blue mud Baites given their sole responsible
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  Speaker 2: for their land, so I accept that. So they just
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  Speaker 2: like anyone else the who's owned a locker land, they've
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  Speaker 2: got control over it. So that's the starting point. So
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  Speaker 2: what the government have failed to do is to go
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  Speaker 2: into negotiate with those people about a deal for a
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  Speaker 2: recreational fishing to be able to go into that. So
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  Speaker 2: there's an opportunity here for traditional owners and record fishioners
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  Speaker 2: to come in join together and pume a lot of
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  Speaker 2: money into the economy. And it's really up to the
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  Speaker 2: government to negotiate that deal. They have let everyone down.
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  Speaker 2: They let the traditional owners down, they let fishows down.
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  Speaker 2: There's just so much uncertainty. I know that the Deputy
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  Speaker 2: Chief Miants have come out and say that's not the
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  Speaker 2: ten million dollars, that's not the deal we thought it was,
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  Speaker 2: and then the permits would come on and off the table.
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  Speaker 2: No one really knows what's going on.
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  Speaker 1: What could have happened differently here? How do you think
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  Speaker 1: that this could have been avoided given the fact that
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  Speaker 1: you know, like I said, it does come down to
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  Speaker 1: obviously the NLC and those traditional owners being able to
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  Speaker 1: do those negotiations.
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  Speaker 2: Well, ultimately what needs to happen. We're not privileged to
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  Speaker 2: the negotiations. We don't know what the traditional owner stands
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  Speaker 2: are or NLC, we don't know what the government. But
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  Speaker 2: there's time for the government to think outside the box
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  Speaker 2: and make some offers and get this matter done, dust
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  Speaker 2: it and put to bed.
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  Speaker 1: So do you think that there should be an offer
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  Speaker 1: of an additional payment or what? Do you think that
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  Speaker 1: you know that we that the government needs to be
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  Speaker 1: looking at in this space.
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  Speaker 2: It's hard for me to say that because I don't
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  Speaker 2: know what the offers are. But you know, there's not
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  Speaker 2: just money and easy to go outside the box. There
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  Speaker 2: could be job offers, there could be better infrastructure, There's
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  Speaker 2: all sorts of things that could be part of this
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  Speaker 2: deal that will benefit everybody because if they're going to
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  Speaker 2: be a better road not just to trash liners who
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  Speaker 2: want to go fishing, but other people will come in.
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  Speaker 1: It could be.
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  Speaker 2: Tourists go there. It's a lot wider than that, and
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  Speaker 2: that's what the government's job is to do, is to
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  Speaker 2: make sure that all territories benefit and right now they've failed.
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  Speaker 1: Has the Opposition met with the NLC and sort of
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  Speaker 1: had a discussion with them to see whether there are
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  Speaker 1: some I mean, I know that you guys aren't in
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  Speaker 1: charge obviously the government are, but have you met with
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  Speaker 1: the NLC to hear their concerns or hear why those
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  Speaker 1: you know, those changes may have broken down to some degree.
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  Speaker 2: No, we haven't had an opportunity to speak to these
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  Speaker 2: but I've been speaking to amateur fishermen. And remember we've
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  Speaker 2: only it's only been election six months ago and this
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  Speaker 2: is only relatively new because before the election the Labor
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  Speaker 2: government outs the ten million dollars a two year deal
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  Speaker 2: and the deal was for two years and then negotiation,
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  Speaker 2: so there was no real pressing issue to do it.
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  Speaker 2: But now it's come to the head we need to
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  Speaker 2: get and sort that out. So yes, we will be
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  Speaker 2: approaching him and asking what their view is.
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  Speaker 1: What impact do you reckon that these changes are going
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  Speaker 1: to have on our amateur fishermen. We spoke to David
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  Speaker 1: Schirovolo yesterday and he said that places like Dundee, you know,
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  Speaker 1: where people book to go out there, there's going to
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  Speaker 1: be certain areas where they're no longer going to be
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  Speaker 1: able to go on fish. The Finnis is one which
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  Speaker 1: has been mentioned quite a bit. What you know, how
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  Speaker 1: do you think that this is going to impact our
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  Speaker 1: recreational fishes.
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  Speaker 2: It's going to impact a lot of people, and not
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  Speaker 2: just for our recreational fishing. It's the tour guys to
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  Speaker 2: come up who books. We all know that Dundee is
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  Speaker 2: a really popular place people use. All the tour guys
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  Speaker 2: out there. They stay at the lodge and they go
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  Speaker 2: fishing out through that bay to the Finnis and also
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  Speaker 2: the Little Finnis and Point Blend Jenny and Point Blaze
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  Speaker 2: all around that point. There's lots of country where people
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  Speaker 2: can go fishing. Now they just can't do it. So
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  Speaker 2: there's no certainty in writing to it. Like again, I
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  Speaker 2: respect traditional owners, cause see they can make the decision
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  Speaker 2: but what I'm really upset about is the government has
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  Speaker 2: failed territorying to negotiated deal.
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  Speaker 1: And so you reckon. They need to get back to
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  Speaker 1: the table. They need to start negotiating.
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  Speaker 2: Again, certainly, and they need to make offers outside the
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  Speaker 2: box and work out what the problem is and solve
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  Speaker 2: it for everyone and just bring it to a head
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  Speaker 2: and finish it.
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  Speaker 1: Jared Mailey, the Deputy Opposition Leader and also the Shadow
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  Speaker 1: Minister for Recreational Fishing, really appreciate your time this morning.
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  Speaker 1: Thanks for coming in
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  Speaker 2: Thank you, and thank you listeners.