Latest / Mac & Bone Podcast / Mac & Bone Hour 3: Pulse of Panther Nation
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- 0:03Speaker 1: Oh, oh, oh, it's Mac and Bo on your radio, baby.
- 0:07Speaker 2: This is my friend Matt. Posh, come on, Posh.
- 0:10Speaker 3: This is my friend T-Bone.
- 0:13Speaker 2: Let's have some fun.
- 0:14Speaker 4: I can't go to work without listening to Mac and Bone.
- 0:18Speaker 2: Do it live.
- 0:41Speaker 5: I mean, obviously the refs were a big part of
- 0:43Speaker 5: the game. They were very, very visible tonight for sure.
- 0:47Speaker 5: They were, they had a lot of TV time, but
- 0:53Speaker 5: we didn't handle our, I mean, again, we don't control that. Um,
- 0:57Speaker 5: you know, you, you, you, things that we controlled, we
- 1:01Speaker 5: didn't do a good enough job to deserve to win
- 1:03Speaker 5: the game.
- 1:04Speaker 4: And, you know.
- 1:05Speaker 5: That, that's on me. That's, that's my job. And, um,
- 1:09Speaker 5: didn't do enough to help them tonight to win the game.
- 1:11Speaker 5: You know, we didn't make a difference for them as
- 1:13Speaker 5: coaches to win the game.
- 1:15Speaker 6: Dabo. There you go, Dabo Sweeney. Taking a little dig
- 1:18Speaker 6: in about the ref's effect in the game. I'm sure
- 1:20Speaker 6: he wasn't happy, Bone, about the Wesco catch that was
- 1:23Speaker 6: taken away. That was freaking huge in that game. And
- 1:27Speaker 6: I'm sure he is just.
- 1:31Speaker 6: At his wits end with this offense, this offensive line,
- 1:34Speaker 6: Tate Reynolds, it's understandable, but his lack of ability to
- 1:37Speaker 6: get the ball downfield. Like at one point, Boney had
- 1:40Speaker 6: 13 straight passes and it's like, great. But what does
- 1:42Speaker 6: he average per attempt on those? Like he was around
- 1:46Speaker 6: five yards at attempt for the game. I will say this,
- 1:50Speaker 6: that Virginia Tech, and he did back Chad Morris. So
- 1:52Speaker 6: Chad Morris isn't going anywhere. because I think all of
- 1:55Speaker 6: Tiger Nation would like Chad Morris to go somewhere as
- 1:58Speaker 6: a play caller. Virginia Tech's front is nasty. Clemson's defense
- 2:02Speaker 6: played so good, though, man. Like, that was just two
- 2:06Speaker 6: nasty defensive fronts making life hard.
- 2:08Speaker 7: Hey, James Franklin doing work in year one, right? Six
- 2:12Speaker 7: and two with them, and it's only going to get
- 2:14Speaker 7: better going forward. So we kind of thought he'd get
- 2:18Speaker 7: off to a good start, but six and two is–
- 2:21Speaker 7: Got to be getting the Hokie fans awfully fired up.
- 2:23Speaker 6: Six and two. When you look at those two losses,
- 2:25Speaker 6: the Pitt one where the field goal, I guess, missed
- 2:28Speaker 6: and the Cal game. Like, those are losses where you
- 2:31Speaker 6: look at it and it's like, you know, those aren't
- 2:33Speaker 6: exactly losing to Miami, you know, and another top five team.
- 2:37Speaker 7: They have a week off. Their next game is a
- 2:39Speaker 7: Friday night game at SMU. SMU, Mac, their record is
- 2:44Speaker 7: still really good, but I feel like they're due for
- 2:48Speaker 7: some losses.
- 2:48Speaker 6: Here along the way. They went off on Cal in
- 2:50Speaker 6: that second half, though. They did, though. 42 to nothing
- 2:52Speaker 6: in the second half against Cal the other day.
- 2:54Speaker 7: And that's kind of the explosion you've been waiting for
- 2:57Speaker 7: at SMU this year, just hasn't quit.
- 2:58Speaker 6: That was nasty, man. That was nasty. Let's talk about it.
- 3:02Speaker 6: It's pumped or pissed Monday. We know what Panther fans are.
- 3:05Speaker 6: We know we all pissed as hell. And by the way,
- 3:07Speaker 6: we want to do Pulse of Panther Nation coming up
- 3:09Speaker 6: at 825. I want to know how furious you are
- 3:13Speaker 6: with what the Panthers put out there and where does
- 3:16Speaker 6: your anger go specifically. We'll get into that with calls
- 3:19Speaker 6: and texts at 825. So Clemson fans, I'm guessing, are
- 3:22Speaker 6: tired of watching this offense. I am guessing this pisses
- 3:26Speaker 6: you the hell off. They're changing coordinators.
- 3:31Speaker 7: They're doing all these different things, and the offense is
- 3:34Speaker 7: regressing more and more by the year.
- 3:35Speaker 6: You mentioned Franklin. How about that gutsy fourth and one
- 3:39Speaker 6: gamble to go for it? They could have kicked the
- 3:41Speaker 6: field goal bone and tied it up. They went for it,
- 3:44Speaker 6: and Gruntmeyer made a hell of a play. Hell of
- 3:49Speaker 6: a damn play. You called that game. You had Virginia
- 3:51Speaker 6: Tech winning that game. And we said it was going
- 3:54Speaker 6: to be like that. We thought it was going to
- 3:56Speaker 6: be defense dominated and nasty. I just thought Clemson would
- 3:58Speaker 6: figure out a way, but I guess not this group.
- 4:01Speaker 6: And then Carolina, I put them in a similar boat.
- 4:05Speaker 6: Carolina and Clemson were on at the same time, and
- 4:07Speaker 6: they were losing heartbreakers simultaneously. And if you're a Heels fan,
- 4:11Speaker 6: I do wonder, like Myron's mad at quarterback play. He's
- 4:15Speaker 6: mad at Billy Edwards Jr., I'd be mad that Bobby
- 4:18Speaker 6: Petrino passed the football bone 40, was it 41 attempts, 50?
- 4:24Speaker 6: They threw the football like 65, 70% of the time.
- 4:29Speaker 6: And by the way, they were running for over five
- 4:31Speaker 6: yards a carry with McGill and June. Why did they
- 4:34Speaker 6: not run the football more? So, like, if I'm a
- 4:37Speaker 6: Carolina fan, fit, I'm furious that they don't have cameras
- 4:41Speaker 6: on the goal line. It's 2026. There's too much at stake.
- 4:45Speaker 6: It's embarrassing for the ACC and for everybody involved, ACC network,
- 4:50Speaker 6: everybody involved. But I would be pissed with that game plan.
- 4:54Speaker 6: Y'all are leading the game. Why were they so pass-heavy
- 4:58Speaker 6: in that game when the run was working so damn well?
- 5:00Speaker 2: I don't know, Mac.
- 5:01Speaker 8: I thought when you got up two scores in the
- 5:03Speaker 8: second half, the way you're running the football, the way
- 5:05Speaker 8: your defense has been playing, just manage the game. Just
- 5:09Speaker 8: manage the clock and just kind of shorten the game
- 5:12Speaker 8: and get out of there with the win. That's not
- 5:15Speaker 8: what happened. And let me go back to what I
- 5:17Speaker 8: said on Friday. And this to me, I think, is
- 5:20Speaker 8: a real damning statement. For someone that has defended the
- 5:23Speaker 8: Belichick football side of things. Mack, I said we hired
- 5:27Speaker 8: him to get us over these types of moments. Like
- 5:29Speaker 8: double-digit favorite at home against.
- 5:32Speaker 2: A team you should beat.
- 5:33Speaker 8: We lost this game under Mack Brown time and time
- 5:37Speaker 8: and time again.
- 5:38Speaker 2: And it happened on Saturday night.
- 5:42Speaker 8: At home, double-digit favorite, a coach that may be coaching
- 5:45Speaker 8: for his job, and guess what happens? We lose the
- 5:49Speaker 8: damn game after being up double digits in the second half.
- 5:52Speaker 8: Myron can moan and groan and complain all he wants
- 5:56Speaker 8: about Billy Edwards Jr., Can we guarantee that if they
- 6:01Speaker 8: put someone else back there, the result would be different?
- 6:04Speaker 6: To your point, here's the thing.
- 6:05Speaker 2: No, we haven't seen those guys play meaningful snaps.
- 6:08Speaker 6: Myron the Moan Goodman. Here's the problem, Moan.
- 6:12Speaker 2: Here's the problem.
- 6:14Speaker 6: You had a really good quarterback last year in Gio Lopez,
- 6:17Speaker 6: and you wasted him. You put him in the wrong scheme.
- 6:21Speaker 6: You made him look terrible with what was around him.
- 6:23Speaker 6: So anyway. And they were going for three wins in
- 6:26Speaker 6: a row. One of them, Pittsburgh was ranked. Then they
- 6:29Speaker 6: would go beat their rival on the road. They were
- 6:32Speaker 6: looking at five and two. Game day probably coming up
- 6:37Speaker 6: with Miami coming in there. Would they beat Miami? Probably not,
- 6:40Speaker 6: but that would be a big moment for the program.
- 6:43Speaker 6: Now you're at four and three after a loss to Syracuse.
- 6:46Speaker 6: Miami looked unbelievable the other day against Pittsburgh. What are
- 6:50Speaker 6: they going to do to UNC?
- 6:51Speaker 7: And the only three wins that Belichick has at home
- 6:56Speaker 7: as UNC's football coach, Richmond, East Tennessee State, and Stanford.
- 7:01Speaker 6: It is two years.
- 7:03Speaker 1: Yeah.
- 7:03Speaker 2: I was going to bring that up.
- 7:05Speaker 6: Complainer-in-Chief says, North Carolina will always have a decent first drive,
- 7:10Speaker 6: and then it seems like we hit a brick wall.
- 7:12Speaker 6: I don't know if that's Billy Edwards Jr. or what
- 7:14Speaker 6: it is. Well, we'll never forget the famous drive that
- 7:17Speaker 6: excited Skip Baylessbone in Belichick's first game against TCU last year.
- 7:22Speaker 6: I think that's something that's there. They're plays away.
- 7:28Speaker 2: From being 6-1. This is still a program.
- 7:33Speaker 6: It is.
- 7:33Speaker 2: They're still trending in the right direction.
- 7:37Speaker 6: They did what the Panthers did. They proved to us
- 7:39Speaker 6: they're not where we thought they were.
- 7:40Speaker 2: Well, their margin for error is not as high as
- 7:43Speaker 2: it should be.
- 7:43Speaker 6: No, it's not. You're right. It feels like once Syracuse
- 7:48Speaker 6: started going off, and I do think the secondary injuries
- 7:50Speaker 6: hurt the heels, my man Willie was getting beat.
- 7:54Speaker 1: A bunch.
- 7:55Speaker 6: The guy, the, the dude, I'm talking about the cornerback here.
- 7:58Speaker 6: I'm not talking about that Willie, the cornerback that had
- 8:00Speaker 6: to play with, with cost out waters was out at
- 8:03Speaker 6: safety as well. That didn't help. I thought Greg Smith
- 8:06Speaker 6: made some rough plays. Like what was he doing on
- 8:08Speaker 6: that deep ball? I, what the hell was that? He's
- 8:11Speaker 6: a good player too. I want to believe that maybe
- 8:13Speaker 6: he just lost like the ball in the, in the sky.
- 8:16Speaker 6: Like maybe like the lights got it.
- 8:17Speaker 2: Because, Matt. That was terrible.
- 8:19Speaker 8: That was a worse angle than Prince Lee Uman Miellen
- 8:22Speaker 8: against Caleb Williams back in week one against the Bears.
- 8:24Speaker 6: It was horrible. And he just stopped. 704 number said,
- 8:27Speaker 6: y'all ripping Bill in the heels. How about ripping the
- 8:30Speaker 6: damn refs? Yeah, it's the lack of a camera that's annoying.
- 8:34Speaker 6: How do you not put cameras on the damn goal
- 8:36Speaker 6: lines and the pylons? How cheap are you, ACC? We
- 8:38Speaker 6: got cameras everywhere these days. We got referees wear cameras
- 8:41Speaker 6: on their heads. You can't get one on the pylon area? Bro,
- 8:44Speaker 6: you can go to a doctor and have a camera
- 8:46Speaker 6: shoved up your how's your father whoa no seriously and we.
- 8:50Speaker 2: Can't get a camera on the goal line.
- 8:52Speaker 6: We now go to the how's your father cam all
- 8:54Speaker 6: right well let's move along here 704-570-9610 i was talking
- 9:00Speaker 6: about the cornerback named willie that was getting beat y'all
- 9:03Speaker 6: all right y'all y'all have taken that place there was
- 9:06Speaker 6: some phrasing there that left a lot to be desired
- 9:09Speaker 6: So let's go to happiness, Bone. Gamecocks, we got Duke fans.
- 9:12Speaker 6: Duke fans want some love for the way they beat Virginia. Bone,
- 9:16Speaker 6: you had yourself a college weekend with the Duke-South Carolina
- 9:20Speaker 6: double dip, baby. First of all, let's start with Duke.
- 9:23Speaker 7: If you would have said that, you know, obviously the
- 9:26Speaker 7: loss to UNC, it sucked to lose to a rival.
- 9:29Speaker 7: But if you would have gone back in the summer
- 9:31Speaker 7: and said Duke would be 5-2, one game better at
- 9:35Speaker 7: the seven-game mark this year than they were with Mensah
- 9:38Speaker 7: and Barkay. You would have said, yeah, you sign up
- 9:42Speaker 7: for that all day. I thought they might, you know,
- 9:44Speaker 7: getting the six wins, seven wins this year would be huge.
- 9:46Speaker 7: To be five and two, they've got BC coming up. So,
- 9:50Speaker 7: you know, you would think that would be six and two.
- 9:53Speaker 7: That is another great coaching job by Manny Diaz. And
- 9:57Speaker 7: if you watch the reaction video after the game in
- 9:59Speaker 7: the locker, room, not only is he a great coach,
- 10:02Speaker 7: that team loves that dude. Oh, they'll do anything for him, dude.
- 10:05Speaker 7: That freaking play call. He maximizes everything out of this group.
- 10:08Speaker 6: That play call bone, like you're saying, for Shepard to
- 10:12Speaker 6: throw that pass away. was just beautiful. In that moment,
- 10:15Speaker 6: him and Jonathan Byrd have the guts to set it
- 10:18Speaker 6: up a few plays beforehand.
- 10:19Speaker 7: Yeah, with the swing to the other side. And then
- 10:21Speaker 7: to run that play in that moment. You've lost two
- 10:23Speaker 7: games in a row. Your season's not on the line,
- 10:27Speaker 7: but the direction it's going in with a loss there
- 10:30Speaker 7: could be in trouble. They don't have a lot of
- 10:34Speaker 7: known players on defense this year, and yet they're still
- 10:38Speaker 7: really good about everything. By the way, give Eget some love.
- 10:43Speaker 7: He went out, Bone, and they put in Mahan, and
- 10:46Speaker 7: that dude ran 15 plays, and the team had.
- 10:49Speaker 6: Like 35 yards of offense. They went nowhere. Eget came
- 10:53Speaker 6: back in playing with injury. and spark that offense. He's
- 10:56Speaker 6: better with nine fingers than 10. You got to give
- 10:59Speaker 6: him some love. No, he does.
- 11:00Speaker 7: We got on him the week before. You got to
- 11:01Speaker 7: give him some love. How about the one-handed catch early
- 11:03Speaker 7: in the game, by the way, on the sidelines?
- 11:05Speaker 6: No, that was sick. That was sick, dude. 704 says,
- 11:08Speaker 6: where's my Gamecock love? Y'all making me wait for it.
- 11:11Speaker 6: All right, let's hit it up now. We also have
- 11:14Speaker 6: state fans. This dude says, when do we get to
- 11:16Speaker 6: talk about how pumped we are Doran's going? We're definitely
- 11:19Speaker 6: going to get into it. The Philip Rivers talk, which
- 11:24Speaker 6: all the insiders are now saying is not just rumor.
- 11:27Speaker 6: There's something to it is very sexy. It's very interesting.
- 11:30Speaker 6: So we're going to get into that. We got a
- 11:32Speaker 6: matter of fact, we had a segment for Hornets up
- 11:35Speaker 6: and down weekend and and an NC State coming up later.
- 11:40Speaker 6: I do want to mention South Carolina because they were
- 11:42Speaker 6: some they were some of the stars of the weekend.
- 11:44Speaker 6: That win to get that win against the Gamecocks bone
- 11:47Speaker 6: or against Tennessee after what Tennessee did the week before
- 11:50Speaker 6: and the way they pulled it out. Down seven and
- 11:52Speaker 6: Tennessee's driving. You get a stop on fourth and one.
- 11:56Speaker 6: The sellers drive and touchdown run. was like, that's the
- 12:00Speaker 6: badass we know you can be. How did he not
- 12:03Speaker 6: get tackled, bro, before crossing the goal line?
- 12:06Speaker 7: That's what we've expected for a long time is that
- 12:09Speaker 7: he can make the spectacular. Now, he's always going to
- 12:12Speaker 7: have the head-scratching plays as well. But I think what
- 12:16Speaker 7: was cool about that was not just the win. It
- 12:18Speaker 7: was Sellers. having that moment, and also Dylan Stewart having
- 12:23Speaker 7: that moment as well. So the two stars in a
- 12:26Speaker 7: big moment there showed up. That's back-to-back wins over ranked teams.
- 12:30Speaker 7: You look at the Kentucky game, that's almost three.
- 12:32Speaker 6: In a row there.
- 12:34Speaker 7: I mean, they're playing so much better, and really the
- 12:37Speaker 7: only game This year that was just outright ugly was Alabama.
- 12:43Speaker 7: If they could have hung on one of the other
- 12:45Speaker 7: two games, they're right there with a playoff-type record right
- 12:49Speaker 7: now almost.
- 12:50Speaker 6: 704 number. Still annoyed me that we blew the lead, though. Yeah,
- 12:55Speaker 6: I'm trying not to focus on that. It happened very quickly, Bone.
- 12:58Speaker 6: It happened about as, what else were we talking about
- 13:02Speaker 6: happened real quickly? Oh, the Hornets lead. When the Hornets
- 13:04Speaker 6: got up like 20 at the end of three quarters
- 13:06Speaker 6: Saturday night, and then it went away, but they did win.
- 13:09Speaker 6: That lead went away so quick, but they showed resolve.
- 13:13Speaker 6: I like the fact, Bone, because you know it's in
- 13:15Speaker 6: their heads like it is fans. You know some of
- 13:18Speaker 6: the players are thinking, here we go again. This is
- 13:20Speaker 6: what we do. We blow double-digit leads. They still had
- 13:22Speaker 6: the grit to win it. Dylan Stewart with the huge
- 13:24Speaker 6: sack force fumble. Good for him. And then the kid
- 13:28Speaker 6: hit the field goal. Orson, that's just an onion situation.
- 13:33Speaker 4: Absolutely.
- 13:34Speaker 6: Nailing that from 48. Good for Gamecock Nation, man.
- 13:37Speaker 3: That was a good day.
- 13:38Speaker 7: Now they've got OU on the road, then A &
- 13:40Speaker 7: M in Arkansas. both at home, but you are so right, though.
- 13:44Speaker 7: In the theme of the SEC season, those that have
- 13:47Speaker 7: big home wins and then travel on the road, although
- 13:51Speaker 7: Kentucky overcame that when they won in Oklahoma, though, but
- 13:54Speaker 7: the large theme has been when you're rolling, you win
- 13:57Speaker 7: at home, you go on the road, you're feeling good
- 13:59Speaker 7: about yourselves.
- 14:01Speaker 6: So problems happen. So hopefully this week they can maybe
- 14:03Speaker 6: avoid that. I don't know that. We'll see. They're better
- 14:06Speaker 6: than every one of these next three opponents.
- 14:08Speaker 7: But it doesn't matter, does it? Well, they're better than
- 14:11Speaker 7: four of the next five opponents. Because they're not better
- 14:14Speaker 7: than Georgia, of course. But Clemson's on there as well.
- 14:16Speaker 6: And... South Carolina is better than Clemson. Could they go 4-1?
- 14:19Speaker 6: Or are they not going to do what we expect?
- 14:22Speaker 6: What they should do, will they not do? They often don't.
- 14:24Speaker 6: You know it. Why am I telling you? They don't
- 14:26Speaker 6: win the games they should, but then they'll win a
- 14:28Speaker 6: game maybe you think they should.
- 14:29Speaker 7: I will say, though, I will say this. If Auburn
- 14:31Speaker 7: can beat Georgia, it's not impossible, I guess. How about
- 14:36Speaker 7: Auburn's come down?
- 14:36Speaker 8: What?
- 14:37Speaker 6: LSU just mollywomped those cats. By the way, that kid
- 14:41Speaker 6: Jackson Harris is a baller at receiver.
- 14:43Speaker 2: That was a big win for Lane Kiffin, too. They
- 14:45Speaker 2: needed to get a win. First road win since, like, what,
- 14:48Speaker 2: 2023 in conference play or something like that?
- 14:49Speaker 9: That's crazy, dude.
- 14:50Speaker 6: Their defense has been ridiculous the last couple games, too. Dude,
- 14:52Speaker 6: two blowouts in a row like that? Like, that was
- 14:55Speaker 6: big for them. The SEC's wild. This dude said, y'all
- 14:58Speaker 6: better get off Arch Manning's back. I'm talking about Mac.
- 15:01Speaker 2: You, you hater.
- 15:03Speaker 6: Um, I don't hate it.
- 15:04Speaker 2: Great on Saturday night.
- 15:04Speaker 8: They were able to run the ball, go figure the ball.
- 15:08Speaker 2: They look different.
- 15:09Speaker 6: That was the key. They got to run the football
- 15:11Speaker 6: and turn him into a supporting player. Like, it shouldn't be.
- 15:15Speaker 6: They put too much on him. They should be a run-
- 15:18Speaker 6: and defense-based football team. Arch Manning is not some air-arch
- 15:22Speaker 6: type dude. He had another hideous pick. He turned it
- 15:24Speaker 6: over a few times. But he also made an amazing
- 15:27Speaker 6: throw to Wingo deep. Cam Coleman, he should have had
- 15:30Speaker 6: another deep touchdown. Cam Coleman dropped one. And now Cam
- 15:33Speaker 6: Coleman's hurt. Their left tackle's hurt. Anyway, let's see what
- 15:37Speaker 6: else we have going on here. Good win for South Carolina,
- 15:40Speaker 6: Texter says. This dude says, I love South Carolina, but
- 15:43Speaker 6: I'm going to enjoy the moment. I fear we're going
- 15:45Speaker 6: to come back to earth and lose to Oklahoma, but
- 15:48Speaker 6: I don't even want to think about it now.
- 15:49Speaker 2: Yeah, you don't have to.
- 15:51Speaker 6: Just revel in the moment, man.
- 15:53Speaker 2: Is that game in Norman, Bone? Yeah, because they were
- 15:55Speaker 2: in Columbia last year.
- 15:57Speaker 7: I mean, Kentucky won there a couple weeks ago. I mean,
- 15:59Speaker 7: it's not– I don't know. It's just– it is– it
- 16:02Speaker 7: does fit the theme of there needs to be concern
- 16:04Speaker 7: about going on the road.
- 16:05Speaker 2: It's also, guys, as Chase Daniels said on SEC Network, dude,
- 16:08Speaker 2: it's Cot-tober.
- 16:09Speaker 6: That's true. You can't deny it.
- 16:10Speaker 8: This is what the Gamecocks do under Shane Beamer. This
- 16:13Speaker 8: is the best month of the year for them.
- 16:14Speaker 6: You ain't kidding. We should have seen it. Well, we
- 16:16Speaker 6: did see it coming. We picked South.
- 16:17Speaker 2: Carolina, Bo. We did actually see it coming. I thought
- 16:20Speaker 2: Tennessee was going to win.
- 16:21Speaker 6: You got to follow the trends, baby. The trends in
- 16:24Speaker 6: the SEC, man. I feel like I'm getting a hold
- 16:26Speaker 6: of it, although I did pick Ole Miss and that
- 16:27Speaker 6: was against the trend. Let's see here. 704 number says
- 16:32Speaker 6: South Carolina is going to beat my Tigers by 30.
- 16:35Speaker 6: I said it, Bone. I said it. And I don't
- 16:37Speaker 6: care what Clemson fans say to me. They're just so...
- 16:41Speaker 6: They're so... They've had.
- 16:42Speaker 7: Clemson this year, but they've played well down there in
- 16:44Speaker 7: the last couple times they've been down there. They're so
- 16:46Speaker 7: offensively challenged. Like, they just can't... They have Wesco and
- 16:50Speaker 7: Moore and Brown. It's just a damn shame that Tate Reynolds,
- 16:53Speaker 7: albeit talented, is so inexperienced. And it's just a damn
- 16:56Speaker 7: shame that the O-line can't hold up either. That's why
- 16:59Speaker 7: I think all you see are hooks and curls and screens. Like,
- 17:04Speaker 7: they don't think that O-line can hold up, man. This
- 17:08Speaker 7: texter says, I'm a proud Hokie fan. Mac, how you
- 17:12Speaker 7: like James Franklin now?
- 17:17Speaker 6: I mean, I like him. I think we all thought
- 17:19Speaker 6: on the show he was going to do great things here.
- 17:22Speaker 6: He did great things at Penn State. It was just
- 17:25Speaker 6: kind of time. You know what I mean? I don't
- 17:27Speaker 6: know if he needed to be fired in season like that.
- 17:29Speaker 6: You know what I mean? Boney got fired about five
- 17:31Speaker 6: games after taking him to a national semi. But James
- 17:33Speaker 6: Franklin can recruit. James Franklin is a guy that players
- 17:37Speaker 6: will play for, man.
- 17:38Speaker 7: He is charismatic. He is energetic. And guys will play
- 17:41Speaker 7: for him. We said it all summer. That is a
- 17:43Speaker 7: huge hire for the ACC. He is the guy that
- 17:46Speaker 7: will push Miami. Now, here's the thing. In the next
- 17:49Speaker 7: few years, I expect them to be the program that
- 17:51Speaker 7: pushes Miami the most. Now, the question is, will Miami
- 17:55Speaker 7: be his Ohio State? Will Miami be his Michigan?
- 17:59Speaker 6: Like, will he get Virginia Tech to a point, but
- 18:01Speaker 6: they can't top the best in the conference? Or will
- 18:04Speaker 6: he break through? That's the question. And the money they're spending.
- 18:09Speaker 6: You know what I mean? The money that they're putting
- 18:11Speaker 6: into that program. And that is one thing I'll say
- 18:13Speaker 6: about this Philly Riv NC State thing, Bone. It's the
- 18:17Speaker 6: type of hire that normally I would be completely against.
- 18:21Speaker 6: It reminds me of the Colts pulling Jeff Saturday out
- 18:24Speaker 6: of the TV studio. You know, all Philip Rivers has
- 18:28Speaker 6: done is coach high school football, right? No college experience.
- 18:31Speaker 6: But with the importance that it is to raise funds
- 18:34Speaker 6: for rosters, I find it hard to believe, Bone, they
- 18:37Speaker 6: could hire any other coach that would galvanize the booster base.
- 18:42Speaker 6: You know what I mean? We might live in a world.
- 18:45Speaker 7: Where it's Belichick as the heels coach and Rivers coaching
- 18:48Speaker 7: NC State.
- 18:48Speaker 6: Do you ever think, Mac, that would be the coaching
- 18:51Speaker 6: matchup there? That's wild, man. That could be wild. It
- 18:54Speaker 6: could be kind of fun. But I could see it
- 18:56Speaker 6: go any way.
- 18:58Speaker 7: If it doesn't go well, would you get tied into
- 19:01Speaker 7: the legend like Pat Ewing at Georgetown or Chris Mullen
- 19:06Speaker 7: at St. John's, Jawan Howard at Michigan, Scott Frost at Nebraska.
- 19:10Speaker 2: Hubert Davis at Carolina.
- 19:12Speaker 7: There's a lot of examples of you tie yourself in
- 19:15Speaker 7: with the legend how do you get out of that
- 19:17Speaker 7: if he's not working.
- 19:18Speaker 6: That is true and we've seen a lot of instances
- 19:20Speaker 6: where it doesn't tennessee jed says virginia tech unlike clemson
- 19:25Speaker 6: is spending that pylon cam money Is it on Clemson? Like,
- 19:30Speaker 6: I'd love to get a breakdown of that. I would
- 19:32Speaker 6: just say, why can't you, when a team has the ball,
- 19:34Speaker 6: why can't you just move cameras on each side and
- 19:37Speaker 6: put them on the goal line? Like, even if they're
- 19:39Speaker 6: just portable. I thought they did have pylon cams on
- 19:41Speaker 6: CBS games. I guess they got money, NFL money, I
- 19:44Speaker 6: guess college. I was more blaming ACC Network and the ACC.
- 19:49Speaker 6: Is this dude taking a shot at Clemson? I don't know.
- 19:53Speaker 6: Little old Clemson can't afford a pie like that. Little
- 19:56Speaker 6: old Clemson. We left it on the rest of y'all bus.
- 20:00Speaker 6: Pulse of Panther Nation is next. Your calls.
- 20:02Speaker 7: How pissed are Panther fans after another embarrassing home loss?
- 20:06Speaker 7: And where should the anger be directed? Granny Pat has
- 20:10Speaker 7: banned herself from this segment due to possible cussing violations.
- 20:14Speaker 6: Sports Radio 92.7 WFNZ.
- 20:38Speaker 10: Most of the season they're hitting the ball to Bucky, right? Like,
- 20:40Speaker 10: be able to turn around and hand it to him. So,
- 20:41Speaker 10: I mean, got to be able to stop it. He's elusive.
- 20:45Speaker 10: He likes to get on the edge and be able
- 20:46Speaker 10: to cut the ball back. So, I mean, you just
- 20:48Speaker 10: got to do a better job.
- 20:50Speaker 4: We've seen you upset after losses.
- 20:51Speaker 10: We've seen you kind of like, you know, we got
- 20:54Speaker 10: to move on.
- 20:55Speaker 3: Like, what are the emotions that you're going through right now?
- 20:58Speaker 10: Get ready to move on. You know, my team knows
- 21:01Speaker 10: how I feel. My team knows the type of competitor
- 21:02Speaker 10: I am. I'm not going to sit here and harp
- 21:04Speaker 10: on this, especially, you know, we got to get ready to,
- 21:07Speaker 10: coming here and essentially go back into a Wednesday tomorrow. So,
- 21:10Speaker 10: I mean, we got to get ready to go to
- 21:11Speaker 10: Green Bay. That's all I'm focused on right now.
- 21:15Speaker 6: That is Derek Brown, even DB Bone, the guy I
- 21:19Speaker 6: looked to yesterday. I heard him there asking one of
- 21:22Speaker 6: the questions in the locker room yesterday. The dude I
- 21:24Speaker 6: looked to for like, he going to tell it straight.
- 21:27Speaker 6: He's the leader of that locker room. He is going
- 21:30Speaker 6: to say what we did is unacceptable. And he was
- 21:33Speaker 6: on Team Flush It. Like it was almost like Dave
- 21:36Speaker 6: Canales handed out a script. Here's what you're going to
- 21:38Speaker 6: say to the media. We had a short week, so
- 21:40Speaker 6: we got to flush this. Dave Canales phone says, yeah,
- 21:43Speaker 6: we just had our Monday meeting. We had our Monday
- 21:45Speaker 6: meeting for, it's like, there's no, like we got embarrassed
- 21:51Speaker 6: and y'all paid big money for it. We're sorry. That
- 21:55Speaker 6: was embarrassing. They were so quick to downplay it. And
- 22:00Speaker 6: I don't know if I'm barking up the wrong tree here.
- 22:03Speaker 6: I don't know. We're getting ready to take calls about
- 22:05Speaker 6: what pissed you off and how angry you are about
- 22:08Speaker 6: that loss. But they made it worse in the postgame
- 22:11Speaker 6: to me. It was such a nonchalant. Like, yeah, what happens?
- 22:15Speaker 6: It's gone. It's gone. It's like, dude, y'all have got
- 22:18Speaker 6: embarrassed DB in the trenches twice this year.
- 22:21Speaker 7: And he's been a part of that, too. Like, he's
- 22:23Speaker 7: not above that either. A lot of times he's been
- 22:26Speaker 7: above the criticism because he's played at that level. But
- 22:30Speaker 7: he has not either this year. He's a part of
- 22:33Speaker 7: the problem as much as anybody is. Also, Mac, the
- 22:37Speaker 7: Monday morning meeting went awfully quick, didn't it? Like, we
- 22:40Speaker 7: just had our meeting. How quick was it? How quick
- 22:42Speaker 7: was that meeting? Or did you guys meet, like, in
- 22:44Speaker 7: the fourth quarter when the game was going on?
- 22:47Speaker 6: They might have done it at halftime. They were down
- 22:48Speaker 6: 27 points. You probably could have been stuck. They were
- 22:51Speaker 6: working on Green Bay stuff. Bro, they were watching film
- 22:53Speaker 6: at halftime, down 27. And then frickin' Allison come out
- 22:56Speaker 6: at halftime with, who was the sideline reporter? Allison Williams.
- 22:59Speaker 6: And come out and tell, yeah, I think it's a
- 23:01Speaker 6: great opportunity to get right back to it. Get back
- 23:03Speaker 6: in this ballgame. You got back into nothing. You got
- 23:07Speaker 6: back into nothing. The pass protection got worse because they
- 23:09Speaker 6: knew where you're going to pass.
- 23:10Speaker 2: And it was even worse. And they didn't even need a.
- 23:12Speaker 6: Blitz to sack Bryce. It's just so many of y'all
- 23:16Speaker 6: were so sorry. How about a moment of acknowledging how
- 23:19Speaker 6: sorry you are? Instead of downplaying it.
- 23:22Speaker 7: I looked at the clock at one point, and there
- 23:24Speaker 7: were still 12 minutes to go in the third quarter.
- 23:26Speaker 6: I said, oh, my God. How much more do we—
- 23:28Speaker 6: The game took forever. Took forever, man. Just like the
- 23:31Speaker 6: Bears game, second half. And did anyone else, a DirecTV customer,
- 23:35Speaker 6: that lost the game? I don't know if they were
- 23:36Speaker 6: looking out for Panther fans, Boat, but my wife told
- 23:39Speaker 6: me this, and when I was doing my rewatch yesterday,
- 23:41Speaker 6: it got mid-third quarter. I couldn't watch anymore. They lost
- 23:44Speaker 6: the video on DirecTV. They saved you. You should thank them. Oh,
- 23:50Speaker 6: thank God it was a blowout. Can you imagine if
- 23:51Speaker 6: the game was tight and DirecTV did that?
- 23:53Speaker 11: Oh, man.
- 23:53Speaker 7: You should call them and thank them for what they did.
- 23:55Speaker 7: All right, let's go to the phones.
- 23:57Speaker 1: What?
- 23:57Speaker 6: I mean, Bryce played his worst game of the season.
- 24:00Speaker 6: The offensive line, Rasheed Walker, Robert Hunt, it was horrendous.
- 24:03Speaker 6: The defensive front, man, I thought we were. Canales and Avero,
- 24:09Speaker 6: without Derrick Brown two years ago, I understood it. We
- 24:12Speaker 6: didn't have the players. And I know we didn't have
- 24:14Speaker 6: Jalen Phillips yesterday, but what's the excuse now for this
- 24:17Speaker 6: crap to happen two times in six games? All right,
- 24:20Speaker 6: let's go to the phone. 704-5709-610. Bone, the run as
- 24:24Speaker 6: an unbeaten pep talker is over for BP from HB. BP,
- 24:28Speaker 6: what's going on, man?
- 24:30Speaker 3: Man, Mac, Bone, Bitty. What a run. We hadn't won
- 24:37Speaker 3: back-to-back in a long time. I'm not going to lie.
- 24:40Speaker 4: I was confident.
- 24:41Speaker 3: I thought for sure it was happening. We were going
- 24:43Speaker 3: to get three. But knowing this team, the roller coaster
- 24:46Speaker 3: they are, what were we thinking, right? You know what's
- 24:48Speaker 3: going to happen. They're going to go to Green Bay.
- 24:49Speaker 3: They're going to play tough. They might win. We'll wait
- 24:52Speaker 3: and see. But, man, here's the problem. I tried to
- 24:55Speaker 3: flush it. It's not only clogged, it's overflowing. Man. Mac,
- 25:02Speaker 3: you saw my poor kids, man. I haven't missed a
- 25:05Speaker 3: game yet this season.
- 25:05Speaker 6: You had a beautiful family, HP. They deserve better, brother.
- 25:09Speaker 3: Man, these poor kids. All they know is misery here
- 25:12Speaker 3: this season. At least the Bears game, you could say
- 25:15Speaker 3: you were in it. Yesterday, from the onset, man, it
- 25:18Speaker 3: was just bad. Bad, bad, bad. We saw Coach Ron.
- 25:22Speaker 3: I needed him to go out there and start calling
- 25:24Speaker 3: some plays or get the team hype. Luke doesn't deserve this.
- 25:29Speaker 3: He deserves better, but boys, it's a long season. We're
- 25:33Speaker 3: still in first. Bryce, he didn't play like an MVP,
- 25:37Speaker 3: but Let's just hope we don't have many more like yesterday.
- 25:41Speaker 3: We're going to need some help on the line. Boy,
- 25:44Speaker 3: it's got to step it up.
- 25:45Speaker 4: Short week.
- 25:46Speaker 3: Let's go. Keep pounding.
- 25:47Speaker 6: All right, baby. All right. They've beaten the pep out
- 25:50Speaker 6: of our guy. Our guy BP.
- 25:53Speaker 7: Yeah, now he's benched for Thursday, so we'll see what's
- 25:56Speaker 7: going on there.
- 25:57Speaker 6: Coach, we've got to cut. The coaching staff needs to
- 25:59Speaker 6: come up with who the pep talker is for Thursday night.
- 26:01Speaker 6: It's a crucial pep talk bone. I mean, Bebop.
- 26:05Speaker 9: Bebop.
- 26:08Speaker 7: Sirloin is upset now that he didn't get... Is he
- 26:10Speaker 7: going to sit down? Do we try to go back
- 26:12Speaker 7: to loin? Or is he disgruntled because he got benched?
- 26:16Speaker 6: Weatherman circles the wagons like Sirloin a bee. What about
- 26:19Speaker 6: Weatherman and his turbines, baby? Too soon? He retired from
- 26:23Speaker 6: texting yesterday. Of course he did. He got mad at
- 26:26Speaker 6: smoke on the text line and retired from texting yesterday.
- 26:29Speaker 6: Oh my gosh, of course he did. He's had enough
- 26:31Speaker 6: of the way he's being treated. Let's go back to
- 26:33Speaker 6: the phone.
- 26:33Speaker 11: 704-570-9610.
- 26:37Speaker 6: It is the pulse of Panther Nation. What angered you
- 26:40Speaker 6: the most from yesterday's game? Who specifically needs to be
- 26:44Speaker 6: called out? There is a lot of Averro, a lot
- 26:47Speaker 6: of Averro noise on the text line that we're going
- 26:49Speaker 6: to have to deal with. All right, let's go to Matt,
- 26:51Speaker 6: who is up next. Matt, how are you feeling after
- 26:53Speaker 6: that mess? Hey, guys.
- 26:57Speaker 4: This is the most contrarian team I've ever seen.
- 26:59Speaker 1: Seriously.
- 26:59Speaker 6: They're good.
- 27:00Speaker 1: They suck.
- 27:02Speaker 4: You think they're going to suck? They show up and play.
- 27:04Speaker 4: Ten-point underdogs, they win.
- 27:05Speaker 6: It's unbelievable.
- 27:09Speaker 4: I've never seen anything like it. And, yeah, it starts up.
- 27:12Speaker 4: You guys have mentioned it. It starts up front. If
- 27:13Speaker 4: you cannot win the trenches, you're going to have a
- 27:16Speaker 4: lot of bad days. And that was– I mean, they
- 27:18Speaker 4: just absolutely got blown off the ball up front. I mean,
- 27:22Speaker 4: there was a lot of other bad things that happened.
- 27:24Speaker 4: But that's where it starts. And when they've invested so
- 27:27Speaker 4: much free agency money– to try to build a line
- 27:30Speaker 4: and draft picks, and this is the result of that.
- 27:34Speaker 4: I mean, it questions the leadership somewhat, not just in
- 27:39Speaker 4: the coaching, but on the team. A team with, you know,
- 27:42Speaker 4: the Luke Kuechly team's Thomas Davis, who are those guys
- 27:46Speaker 4: on this team that's getting after and said, this crap
- 27:49Speaker 4: is not acceptable? Because, I mean, you can't do that.
- 27:52Speaker 6: You would think Lloyd. You would think DB. I appreciate
- 27:55Speaker 6: the call, man. And people are bringing up Luke Bone.
- 27:59Speaker 6: We hadn't really talked about it. The fact that that happened.
- 28:02Speaker 6: On Luke Keekly day where that deep run defense looks
- 28:05Speaker 6: that pathetic and you give up 43 points is a
- 28:09Speaker 6: damn shame. And I don't know if other fans feel
- 28:11Speaker 6: this way. Maybe you were able to compartmentalize. I'm sitting there.
- 28:15Speaker 6: I wanted to enjoy the Luke Keekly Hall of Fame
- 28:18Speaker 6: ring ceremony at halftime. They should have done it before
- 28:20Speaker 6: the game in hindsight. I wanted to enjoy it. But
- 28:23Speaker 6: by the time they got there and Luke starts talking,
- 28:26Speaker 6: I'm like, Luke, no offense, man, but I am so
- 28:30Speaker 6: defeated mentally and emotionally after that garbage first half. I
- 28:33Speaker 6: didn't even really want to listen. Like, they just ruined
- 28:36Speaker 6: freaking Luke's day, man.
- 28:37Speaker 7: Do you know how bad a performance has to be
- 28:40Speaker 7: to ruin a Luke day?
- 28:42Speaker 9: I know.
- 28:42Speaker 6: You'd be ashamed of yourself, Panthers.
- 28:44Speaker 1: Yeah.
- 28:45Speaker 6: Ashamed of yourself. All right, man. Let's keep it going. 704-570-9610.
- 28:51Speaker 6: Let's go to Jason, who is up next. Jason, how
- 28:54Speaker 6: are you feeling, man?
- 28:56Speaker 12: Oh, Mack and Bowen, I'm just pissed. I can't get
- 29:01Speaker 12: over it. Just the same thing with Canales. He drives
- 29:07Speaker 12: me insane.
- 29:09Speaker 1: I don't know.
- 29:09Speaker 12: He's so positive.
- 29:11Speaker 4: There's no fire.
- 29:13Speaker 12: He's just clapping his hands on the sideline and muffing
- 29:17Speaker 12: a punt. I mean, get on these guys. They're professional athletes.
- 29:20Speaker 12: They shouldn't be doing this stuff. And Green Bay is
- 29:24Speaker 12: waiting for us Thursday night. I think Josh Jacobs is
- 29:28Speaker 12: licking his chops knowing that Bucky Irvin just ran all
- 29:30Speaker 12: over us.
- 29:32Speaker 6: The thing is, they've got to figure out what poison
- 29:34Speaker 6: they're going to use on us. And I appreciate the call,
- 29:36Speaker 6: by the way. bro. What poison are they going to use, Bone,
- 29:39Speaker 6: to run in or to pass it on us?
- 29:40Speaker 7: I always go back to what Brentson Buckner has told
- 29:42Speaker 7: us so many times about, though, coaches and the pros.
- 29:45Speaker 6: As opposed to college.
- 29:46Speaker 7: Coaches in college, like the Sabans of the world, will
- 29:49Speaker 7: go crazy on a player. You don't often see the
- 29:52Speaker 7: NFL coach to show up the pros. Even Belichick, Mac,
- 29:56Speaker 7: for as hard-ass as a coach as he was with
- 29:58Speaker 7: the winged one, he often didn't even do anything on
- 30:01Speaker 7: the sidelines. It was all behind the scenes. Behind the scenes,
- 30:03Speaker 7: he was screaming. We don't know what goes on behind
- 30:05Speaker 7: the scenes. Rivera was that way. We've seen him tear
- 30:08Speaker 7: down the walls before or heard about it.
- 30:10Speaker 6: Behind the scenes.
- 30:11Speaker 7: So don't– Don't just automatically assume the demeanor of Canales
- 30:15Speaker 7: on the sidelines is exactly what he tells players behind
- 30:18Speaker 7: the scenes.
- 30:18Speaker 6: With that said, it's hard to imagine him tearing into somebody.
- 30:21Speaker 4: I don't know.
- 30:22Speaker 6: It just is.
- 30:23Speaker 7: I will say this. My problem is not with Canales.
- 30:25Speaker 7: I know the offensive line coaches do. And they deserve it.
- 30:30Speaker 7: My problem is not with Canales' bone on the sidelines.
- 30:33Speaker 7: My problem was just with Canales and the players and
- 30:35Speaker 7: the tone in the postgame. I just want some straight-up
- 30:39Speaker 7: real talk. We got our asses kicked and it's humiliating.
- 30:42Speaker 7: And when we come out on Thursday, that ain't it. Like,
- 30:45Speaker 7: I just want some defiance rather than acceptance. Hey, let's
- 30:49Speaker 7: flush it. There's a big old turd in the bowl.
- 30:51Speaker 7: Matter of fact, there's about eight turds in the bowl.
- 30:53Speaker 6: After that one.
- 30:53Speaker 2: Like, you know what I mean?
- 30:54Speaker 6: I know I didn't need to be that graphic, but like,
- 30:56Speaker 6: I just, I just, I didn't want that tone. But anyway,
- 31:00Speaker 6: the tone doesn't matter. Ultimately the response is, and this
- 31:03Speaker 6: has been a very good response football team. to losses,
- 31:06Speaker 6: to adversity, to blowout losses. We'll see what they got, man.
- 31:09Speaker 6: But here's the thing, though, Bone. Even if they bounce
- 31:11Speaker 6: back against Green Bay, the question still is there. Why
- 31:14Speaker 6: in year three of the Canales regime is there not consistency?
- 31:17Speaker 6: Why have you not gotten to that point as the
- 31:19Speaker 6: personnel gets better?
- 31:21Speaker 1: Right?
- 31:21Speaker 6: That's the question.
- 31:23Speaker 7: And if the trend would be play well against Green Bay,
- 31:25Speaker 7: then Denver's next.
- 31:27Speaker 6: What's that going to look like? Yeah, they've got to
- 31:29Speaker 6: bring it every week. And I know it's a week-to-week league.
- 31:31Speaker 6: This dude said it's week-to-week. Teams lay eggs all the time.
- 31:34Speaker 6: But can we not lay them so much? And here's
- 31:36Speaker 6: the other thing. Why do the eggs have to be
- 31:38Speaker 6: so stinky? Like, when this team gets beat sometimes, 59
- 31:42Speaker 6: points to the Bears, 43. Like, they really lay a
- 31:45Speaker 6: damn egg, man.
- 31:46Speaker 7: This is not your sunny side up. These are deviled eggs.
- 31:50Speaker 7: All right, let's go to the phones. It's Pulse of
- 31:51Speaker 7: Panther Nation. Let's get y'all in here. We've got Will,
- 31:55Speaker 7: who is up next. Will, how you feeling?
- 31:59Speaker 9: What's going on, guys?
- 32:00Speaker 6: What up?
- 32:01Speaker 9: I think when a game— I was there yesterday. I've
- 32:05Speaker 9: wanted Panthers games for like 20 years. That's by far
- 32:08Speaker 9: literally the worst Panthers game I've ever been to. I left,
- 32:14Speaker 9: like you said, with the Luke Kuechly thing.
- 32:16Speaker 3: I didn't even watch it.
- 32:17Speaker 9: I was at the doghouse by the third quarter, then
- 32:19Speaker 9: I left the doghouse when they threw the next pick.
- 32:21Speaker 9: But with one of those games, it just doesn't matter.
- 32:25Speaker 9: If everything goes that wrong, there's literally nothing you can
- 32:28Speaker 9: take away from it. You basically have to shred the tapes.
- 32:30Speaker 9: So I'm actually relatively optimistic that you get one of
- 32:33Speaker 9: those a year. I'm giving them this one. Three and
- 32:36Speaker 9: three at the beginning of the year. If I said
- 32:37Speaker 9: three and three, literally everybody who called in right now
- 32:39Speaker 9: would have signed up for it in a heartbeat. And
- 32:42Speaker 9: I know I always have a trade idea, and my
- 32:44Speaker 9: trade idea right now is honestly Derek Brown. Do you
- 32:46Speaker 9: maybe think about what you can get for Derek Brown
- 32:48Speaker 9: right now?
- 32:49Speaker 6: No, thanks for the call, Will.
- 32:50Speaker 2: Trader Will, baby, you are back!
- 32:52Speaker 6: Thank you for the call, Will. Appreciate it. Trader Will,
- 32:55Speaker 6: how about we try to get some help for Derek
- 32:57Speaker 6: Brown and maybe trade for Tavares Buckner with the Colts
- 32:59Speaker 6: if they hold their fires out? Now you're talking. I
- 33:04Speaker 6: didn't even realize at first that was Trader Will. That
- 33:06Speaker 6: was the Trader Will that last year tried to trade everybody.
- 33:09Speaker 6: You know his business is booming when they lose. He's
- 33:11Speaker 6: got to start making some moves. It's true. By the way,
- 33:13Speaker 6: three and three is all right. We're in first place
- 33:16Speaker 6: in the division only by a half game because Atlanta.
- 33:18Speaker 6: Looks competent. They beat San Francisco yesterday. But he said 3-3,
- 33:23Speaker 6: everybody would have taken it. I don't know about that. Like,
- 33:26Speaker 6: it's not the end of the world. We're 3-3. We're
- 33:28Speaker 6: still in first place in this division, Bone. But, like,
- 33:31Speaker 6: the way they've done it, too, giving up 59 in
- 33:33Speaker 6: one game, 43 in another, getting run all over. I
- 33:36Speaker 6: don't think people would be signing exactly for this. That
- 33:39Speaker 6: is a little too Pollyanna.
- 33:41Speaker 7: Not if you would tell us the Bears' result was
- 33:43Speaker 7: what it was, especially late in the game.
- 33:45Speaker 6: And this result? Lose by 30 to a 1-5 team?
- 33:47Speaker 7: Two home games getting your skulls bashed in by the
- 33:51Speaker 7: end of it.
- 33:52Speaker 6: Seriously. I don't mean to be too over the top.
- 33:53Speaker 6: It's frustrating. That's all right. I had eight turds in
- 33:55Speaker 6: a bowl earlier, so it's a very graphic imagery of
- 33:58Speaker 6: this segment. And then Tampa owns us. They've won 11
- 34:02Speaker 6: of 13 against us. Like, Baker owns us. Baker has
- 34:05Speaker 6: thrown 11 passes in a Michael Jackson glove to continue
- 34:09Speaker 6: owning us. All right, last call. He was dancing on
- 34:11Speaker 6: us at one point also. We're going to close it down, Bone,
- 34:14Speaker 6: with Gamecock Kevin, who will probably, Bone, talk about the
- 34:18Speaker 6: Panthers for two seconds and then rave about his Gamecock.
- 34:21Speaker 6: I ain't even mad at him. He deserves it. I
- 34:22Speaker 6: ain't mad at him if he does it. What up, Kev?
- 34:24Speaker 1: No, I'm not raving about the Gamecock because... Rocky flop.
- 34:29Speaker 1: We own y'all, but I'm going to leave that alone.
- 34:32Speaker 1: Matt and bone. Yes. Good morning.
- 34:35Speaker 6: Happy cock Toba.
- 34:39Speaker 1: With that being said, Matt, you just said you wish
- 34:43Speaker 1: that there was some consistency. There is consistency.
- 34:47Speaker 4: Guess what?
- 34:47Speaker 1: Our consistency is Matt.
- 34:49Speaker 11: What?
- 34:49Speaker 6: Inconsistent. That's maddening.
- 34:52Speaker 1: We're consistently inconsistent. And, dude, I never expected Derrick Brown
- 35:01Speaker 1: and that defense to get punched in their mouth the
- 35:06Speaker 1: way that they did yesterday. It pissed me off to
- 35:09Speaker 1: a level that you guys wouldn't even understand. And, yeah,
- 35:12Speaker 1: you do understand it because we all Panther fans and
- 35:15Speaker 1: we all live in this crap. I was so angry yesterday, man.
- 35:19Speaker 1: And guess what, Mac? We ain't got no choice but
- 35:20Speaker 1: to flush it. Because Thursday is a coming. And if
- 35:25Speaker 1: we don't get this figured out on a national broadcast,
- 35:29Speaker 1: we are going to get embarrassed. So I don't know
- 35:32Speaker 1: what Dave Canales needs to do. I don't know what
- 35:35Speaker 1: a zero of barrel needs to do. And then another
- 35:37Speaker 1: thing I didn't even think about when we were breaking
- 35:39Speaker 1: down the game. Canales worked for five bowls. He knows
- 35:43Speaker 1: your tendencies, Canales. And guess what? Because you're so consistent,
- 35:48Speaker 1: you're not going to switch up what you do and
- 35:50Speaker 1: you get the result that you get. That's why we
- 35:51Speaker 1: keep losing to Tampa.
- 35:52Speaker 6: It's a very interesting point, dude. Great call, brother.
- 35:55Speaker 1: Great call.
- 35:55Speaker 6: I'm going to leave it alone, Matt.
- 35:57Speaker 1: Appreciate you.
- 35:58Speaker 6: I'm sorry. Go ahead, Matt.
- 35:59Speaker 1: I love y'all boys. Be easy, man.
- 36:00Speaker 6: I love you too, man. Appreciate you, brother. That's a
- 36:01Speaker 6: good point, too, about the familiarity. And by the way,
- 36:05Speaker 6: Bowles switched up the trend on defense. They only blitz,
- 36:08Speaker 6: Sumer Sports said, 26% of the time. They usually are
- 36:10Speaker 6: blitzing 42% of the time. But it didn't matter. They
- 36:14Speaker 6: got five sacks, and not a single one was on
- 36:16Speaker 6: a blitz. There's so much frustrating about that game.
- 36:19Speaker 7: Mac, when we come back, we have a second epic
- 36:21Speaker 7: failure by the defense this season. Should the talk swing
- 36:24Speaker 7: back to Avero now, the problem that he might be?
- 36:28Speaker 7: I've also, Mac, got my own story about how comically
- 36:32Speaker 7: embarrassing yesterday was, even today.
- 36:35Speaker 6: For myself. Sports Radio 92.7 WFNZ.
- 37:03Speaker 11: I know that wasn't good enough. The standard wasn't upheld,
- 37:07Speaker 11: and that's all throughout all levels of the defense. They
- 37:13Speaker 11: did a good job in the run game, and we
- 37:14Speaker 11: didn't execute the way we should have. I've got to
- 37:16Speaker 11: look at the tape to really see what happened, but
- 37:19Speaker 11: that wasn't good enough on our part.
- 37:20Speaker 13: Baker threw the ball 11 times today. They aren't utilizing
- 37:24Speaker 13: the pass, but having that success in the run, what
- 37:26Speaker 13: is said on the sideline, what is said between you
- 37:29Speaker 13: guys to kind of regroup?
- 37:31Speaker 11: Shoot, stop the run. We know what they're trying to do.
- 37:33Speaker 11: We knew what they were trying to do going into
- 37:34Speaker 11: the game with his hand being hurt. Our keys to
- 37:39Speaker 11: victory didn't come to life today. A big point of
- 37:43Speaker 11: emphasis on stopping the run game. We weren't able to
- 37:45Speaker 11: do that.
- 37:48Speaker 6: That is Devin Lloyd, leader of this defense. He had
- 37:50Speaker 6: some rough moments, too. Blocks getting to him, shoving him around,
- 37:54Speaker 6: moving him. Bobby Okereke-Bone started this game with his hair
- 37:57Speaker 6: on fire. I thought he was about ready to have
- 38:01Speaker 6: the Devin Lloyd time game from earlier this season. He
- 38:04Speaker 6: had seven tackles in the first quarter, Bone. Broke up
- 38:10Speaker 6: a pass on third down, had a TFL. He had
- 38:13Speaker 6: three tackles after that game, and he just blended in
- 38:15Speaker 6: with the rest of the defense after that. It was ugly, man.
- 38:19Speaker 7: Here's a stat and a quick story that basically explains yesterday.
- 38:23Speaker 7: According to QB Gami, a Twitter feed that is like
- 38:27Speaker 7: score Gami, but it's for quarterback sort of off the
- 38:30Speaker 7: wall stats or first time stuff that happens. The Bucks
- 38:33Speaker 7: just became the first team in 68 years and only
- 38:38Speaker 7: the third team ever to win a road game by
- 38:40Speaker 7: 30 plus points while recording 65 or fewer passing yards.
- 38:45Speaker 7: The Giants did it. in 1958 and 1950 in the
- 38:50Speaker 7: Buccaneers yesterday. So my view of that is it can happen.
- 38:55Speaker 7: It's happened three times. Any defense can have that happen
- 38:57Speaker 7: to them. That is so embarrassing, is it not?
- 39:00Speaker 6: Like the fact that you look at it and you
- 39:03Speaker 6: saw them set the tone and show us our game
- 39:05Speaker 6: plan on the first drive. It was going to be,
- 39:07Speaker 6: and you should have, they knew it coming in. They
- 39:09Speaker 6: knew it coming in. This is going to be a
- 39:11Speaker 6: run heavy attack. And the most important thing is to
- 39:14Speaker 6: stop the run. They get a QB with a busted
- 39:16Speaker 6: thumb and a damn glove on it. And in hindsight,
- 39:20Speaker 6: they didn't want him to have to throw it hardly
- 39:21Speaker 6: at all. And they let him off the hook because
- 39:24Speaker 6: you could not stop the run. And let's also point
- 39:26Speaker 6: out bone, the turnovers, the special teams guardrails, that led
- 39:30Speaker 6: the points. It allowed them bone to get such a
- 39:33Speaker 6: lead to where they were able to just sit there
- 39:35Speaker 6: and run it. They didn't have to pass the ball
- 39:38Speaker 6: at all. And we let him off the hook. That
- 39:41Speaker 6: stat sums up how ridiculously embarrassing that performance was.
- 39:47Speaker 7: Oh, and speaking of that, when we were down 36-6 yesterday,
- 39:51Speaker 7: I got an alert that an Amazon package had arrived
- 39:54Speaker 7: at my door. Now, I have to do this in
- 39:57Speaker 7: advance every once in a while. I'm not trying to
- 39:59Speaker 7: curse it, but I have to order potential, like the
- 40:02Speaker 7: eagle costume last week in advance. Now, I ordered a
- 40:06Speaker 7: pirate outfit with eye patches for you and Fitty for
- 40:10Speaker 7: a possible victory dance, and it dropped at the door.
- 40:13Speaker 7: when we were down 36 to six mac i left
- 40:16Speaker 7: this morning it's still at my door i refuse to
- 40:18Speaker 7: bring that in right now now we can use that
- 40:20Speaker 7: in the future which is fine.
- 40:22Speaker 6: That requires us to beat the bucks we've beaten them
- 40:24Speaker 6: twice in 11 13 games i don't even want to
- 40:26Speaker 6: look at this ridiculous pirate outfit I was so excited
- 40:30Speaker 6: to see Finney in an eyepatch. So does the question
- 40:32Speaker 6: need to be now, who are you blaming more, Averro
- 40:35Speaker 6: or Bone? I did it with the eagle last week
- 40:39Speaker 6: and it worked. This was going to be an Averro segment,
- 40:42Speaker 6: but now it's Averro or Bone. Who do you blame more?
- 40:45Speaker 6: Should I have to still dress like a pirate this
- 40:47Speaker 6: week at some point as a punishment? Probably.
- 40:49Speaker 7: I believe you should probably have to come to work, Chris,
- 40:51Speaker 7: as a pirate. I should counter Tammy as a pirate
- 40:53Speaker 7: out there in the hallway. Yeah, you probably should. You
- 40:55Speaker 7: probably should.
- 40:56Speaker 6: So let's talk about Averro. It's on me. Let's talk
- 40:58Speaker 6: about Averro. This dude says, if Averro's the man in
- 41:01Speaker 6: charge of starting a Caleb Evans, yes, he is to blame.
- 41:04Speaker 11: 803 number.
- 41:07Speaker 6: I would love to blame Averro. I blame him a lot.
- 41:09Speaker 6: I'm not his biggest fan. But Averro didn't get blocked
- 41:13Speaker 6: back 10 yards like Derrick Brown did yesterday. Averro didn't
- 41:17Speaker 6: miss tackles. Averro didn't have moments like a Caleb Evans.
- 41:22Speaker 6: The Averro thing's interesting. First of all, just based sheerly
- 41:25Speaker 6: on results, you've had two hideous, pathetic football teams for
- 41:29Speaker 6: your defense that are just embarrassing. You're in your fourth
- 41:32Speaker 6: year here. This is not 2020, what year was that, four,
- 41:37Speaker 6: where Derrick Brown's out and your personnel's hot garbage. This
- 41:41Speaker 6: is one bone where your defense should be past days
- 41:44Speaker 6: like this. And so I am acknowledging, I don't believe
- 41:47Speaker 6: he's going to get fired during the season, like a
- 41:50Speaker 6: lot of you have on your damn Christmas list already
- 41:53Speaker 6: with some of the texts y'all have sent in, because
- 41:55Speaker 6: what good does it do to promote Jonathan Cooley or
- 41:57Speaker 6: whoever it might be off the defense? I do think that,
- 42:01Speaker 6: you know, he will be given the full season. But
- 42:04Speaker 6: I do think if this, if you see this recur bone,
- 42:07Speaker 6: like I thought the defense had bounced back from week one.
- 42:10Speaker 6: And I thought based on me reciting the EPA stats
- 42:13Speaker 6: for games two through five, I think you noticed, I
- 42:16Speaker 6: thought that they had turned a corner. And this is
- 42:20Speaker 6: smack in the face that they, that they still have
- 42:22Speaker 6: that crap.
- 42:23Speaker 7: They did turn the corner and I turned the corner
- 42:25Speaker 7: back the other way. So now we don't know what
- 42:27Speaker 7: quarter they're on. Where are they? What corner are we on?
- 42:32Speaker 7: Is this true, Mac, from Waffle House Willie? The Bucks
- 42:34Speaker 7: are the first team to throw for less than 65
- 42:36Speaker 7: yards and score 40 points for the first time in
- 42:40Speaker 7: 100 years?
- 42:41Speaker 6: That has to be extremely rare. I would believe it.
- 42:45Speaker 6: I mean, what happened yesterday is one of the most
- 42:48Speaker 6: absurd results in a football game ever. the way it happened.
- 42:53Speaker 6: Miss Sweet Cheek says, EJ can't coach him up. Brian says, finally,
- 42:58Speaker 6: Mac put Navarro on notice. This texter, 704 number, how
- 43:04Speaker 6: the hell do you not load the box when it
- 43:06Speaker 6: becomes apparent all they're going to do is run it?
- 43:09Speaker 2: They did.
- 43:09Speaker 8: They did put eight in the box. It still got
- 43:11Speaker 8: blocked into next week.
- 43:12Speaker 6: I got the numbers here. I get the numbers, all right,
- 43:14Speaker 6: because I don't want to just blindly say things as
- 43:16Speaker 6: we watch the game.
- 43:18Speaker 12: Right?
- 43:18Speaker 6: Like, Bone, you were talking earlier, did Avero adjust? It's like,
- 43:21Speaker 6: I don't know. Are we smart enough to know? Like,
- 43:23Speaker 6: would we know adjustments if we saw? Willie P is.
- 43:25Speaker 6: So let's talk. Yeah, we clearly P-man it.
- 43:27Speaker 7: I asked the question of why the Bears and the
- 43:31Speaker 7: Tampa game was nothing ever stopped.
- 43:33Speaker 6: They had a game plan. Like, sometimes you just get
- 43:34Speaker 6: your ass kicked up front, too.
- 43:37Speaker 7: I understand that. I can't ask questions. I'm asking a question. Like, yesterday,
- 43:41Speaker 7: Buccaneers had a game plan.
- 43:42Speaker 6: Here we go.
- 43:43Speaker 7: It was Bucky Irving, Bucky Irving, Bucky Irving. They never
- 43:48Speaker 7: had to alleviate from their game plan yesterday at all.
- 43:51Speaker 6: No, they didn't.
- 43:52Speaker 7: It was embarrassing. So is there anything we could have
- 43:55Speaker 7: done to get them off that track?
- 43:56Speaker 6: So let's talk about that right now.
- 43:58Speaker 2: All right?
- 43:59Speaker 6: Let's talk about it. I looked up the numbers. How
- 44:01Speaker 6: many heavy boxes did we have, right, where you have–
- 44:04Speaker 6: an eighth man or more in the box. It was 38%
- 44:08Speaker 6: of the time. Now that was third most to saw
- 44:10Speaker 6: Sumer sports. That was third most in the league yesterday.
- 44:16Speaker 6: Number one was 70%. Why were we not around 70%
- 44:20Speaker 6: heavy box? Why were you not daring Baker Mayfield with
- 44:24Speaker 6: his bad thumb and without Ibuka to throw the football? So, like, yeah,
- 44:29Speaker 6: it was the third most heavy boxes, and Finney's right.
- 44:32Speaker 6: I watched that game back last night and said, there's
- 44:34Speaker 6: an eight-man front. They ran for 13 yards. So, like,
- 44:37Speaker 6: don't get me wrong, Bone. They were running through our
- 44:39Speaker 6: eight-man fronts, too. You would figure the heavy box number
- 44:42Speaker 6: would be higher than 38 because it became apparent they
- 44:45Speaker 6: had no desire to chuck it at all. Zero. You know?
- 44:48Speaker 6: So I do think there's probably some blame there, but
- 44:51Speaker 6: I also think Averro's the easy guy to blame. And
- 44:54Speaker 6: I think sometimes, like, it's about dudes just having pride
- 44:59Speaker 6: and just saying, I will not be moved by another
- 45:02Speaker 6: man on this play. And I just, you know what
- 45:05Speaker 6: I mean? It could be all the things. It is
- 45:07Speaker 6: all the things. It's definitely all the things.
- 45:08Speaker 7: My whole thing was, that's twice, it feels like when
- 45:12Speaker 7: the game plan is going the way they thought it was,
- 45:16Speaker 7: Averro seems like he's good. Like, all right, he's got it.
- 45:19Speaker 7: There's not a lot of adjusting needed, whatever that is.
- 45:22Speaker 7: You're saying they can't turn the tie. It feels like
- 45:25Speaker 7: when something in the game is not working, Bears game,
- 45:28Speaker 7: Bucks game, or something's going wild on us, we're having
- 45:31Speaker 7: trouble stopping it, whether that's the players' effort, the coaching.
- 45:35Speaker 7: We're not smart enough, Matt, to be in that room,
- 45:37Speaker 7: but it feels like when the game plan gets all
- 45:40Speaker 7: messed up by the other team, we're not doing a
- 45:43Speaker 7: good job of countering that right now.
- 45:44Speaker 2: No, because, Matt, you had me pull the cut.
- 45:46Speaker 8: Bobby Okereke, this dude was like glowing, talking about how Man,
- 45:51Speaker 8: they really schemed up some good runs against us today.
- 45:54Speaker 11: Oh, okay.
- 45:56Speaker 2: Can you... Am I asking too.
- 45:58Speaker 8: Much as a pro football player that's getting paid millions
- 46:01Speaker 8: of dollars to... Nut up, drop a set, and make
- 46:06Speaker 8: a freaking play. Can you shed a block and make
- 46:09Speaker 8: a tackle?
- 46:10Speaker 14: He did make 10 tackles in fairness to him. Like,
- 46:12Speaker 14: Caleb Evans, he was playing patty cake. They want to
- 46:16Speaker 14: tackle the guy. Like, grab the dude by the face mask,
- 46:19Speaker 14: walk him to the tunnel, cut his ass. That guy's
- 46:22Speaker 14: not good enough to play at the NFL level. I
- 46:25Speaker 14: don't know what Corey Thornton did. How has that guy
- 46:28Speaker 14: not been called up to replace him?
- 46:30Speaker 6: They've got Robert Rochelle. They've got Charles Smith-Wade. There are
- 46:33Speaker 6: other guys. And yeah, Corey Thornton makes me wonder. Did
- 46:36Speaker 6: we just curse that guy beyond belief? Apparently so.
- 46:39Speaker 2: They heard that we liked him, so they said, hey,
- 46:40Speaker 2: that guy's got to suck it back in if he
- 46:42Speaker 2: likes him.
- 46:43Speaker 6: But yeah, Caleb Evans-Bone, that was a disturbing moment when
- 46:46Speaker 6: we realized, oh, shoot. You want nothing to do with
- 46:50Speaker 6: tackling either, bro. You can't cover. You're just not good
- 46:53Speaker 6: enough at it. And now you apparently can get stiff-armed
- 46:56Speaker 6: by somebody's pinky right out of the way. Like, that's
- 46:59Speaker 6: a rough combination.
- 47:00Speaker 7: Corey Thornton could put his arms inside his jersey like
- 47:04Speaker 7: he's got no arms and do better than Evans did yesterday.
- 47:09Speaker 2: Oh, my God.
- 47:10Speaker 6: This texter says Averro's got the most 40-point losses in
- 47:14Speaker 6: the last three years. I get it. The numbers look bad.
- 47:17Speaker 6: I have thrown out the numbers for him, Bone, from 2024.
- 47:20Speaker 6: Derrick Brown was out, and what was on the field,
- 47:22Speaker 6: Dan Morgan told y'all after the season, was not good enough.
- 47:25Speaker 6: But now, even with Jalen Phillips in the two corners out,
- 47:30Speaker 6: that's demoralizing and embarrassing. And much like Canalis Bone should
- 47:34Speaker 6: have the whole program above games like yesterday, when we've
- 47:38Speaker 6: seen what you're capable of, Ajiro Overo's got to have
- 47:41Speaker 6: the program beyond crap like this two years after 2024.
- 47:45Speaker 7: When we come back, do Panther fans feel like Sunday
- 47:48Speaker 7: was an aberration? Or are we afraid we have completely
- 47:52Speaker 7: overrated this team? That'll be an Ask the Audience brought
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