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I Smell Pop Culture: The Sound of Music · I Am All In with Scott Patterson

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  Speaker 1: I am all in again. Oh that's just you. I
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  Speaker 1: Smell pop Culture with Eastern Allen and iHeart radio podcast.
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  Speaker 1: The hills are live with the sound of Gilmore. Hey, everybody,
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  Speaker 1: it's Easton Allen. It's I Smell pop Culture. That's right, baby.
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  Speaker 1: We are dancing through the lush, green hillsides of podcast land,
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  Speaker 1: and we are going to do something really, really fun
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  Speaker 1: here this week. If you're just joining us, if you're
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  Speaker 1: just landing here for the first time, if you dropped
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  Speaker 1: out of the sky, you don't know where you are.
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  Speaker 1: You don't know who I am. Don't worry about that.
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  Speaker 1: Who I am does not matter. I am an enigma,
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  Speaker 1: I am a mystery. I'm a force of nature, and
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  Speaker 1: I am here to take you through the pop culture
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  Speaker 1: references in Gilmore Girls, of which there are a plenty
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  Speaker 1: of which there are diverse and interesting, complex our references
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  Speaker 1: all over history, all over the world, music, movies, songs, celebrities.
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  Speaker 1: We are going to take one or two of them
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  Speaker 1: and go put it under the microscope, dive deep, figure
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  Speaker 1: out who made this a pop culture reference? How do
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  Speaker 1: you become a pop culture reference? How do you take
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  Speaker 1: a movie, a piece of media and elevate it to
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  Speaker 1: the point where something as incredible as Gilmore Girls is
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  Speaker 1: referencing it. A few months ago, we talked to Don
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  Speaker 1: Most who is Ralph Mouth on Happy Days, and Happy
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  Speaker 1: Days stands out because it is the most referenced show
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  Speaker 1: in Gilmergirls. They referenced it like a million times. But
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  Speaker 1: I don't have the exact data, but coming up second
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  Speaker 1: or at least top three, has to be the Sound
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  Speaker 1: of Music. Check this out. The Sound of Music was
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  Speaker 1: referencing Gilmore Girls. I'm counting here one, two, three, four, five, six, seven,
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  Speaker 1: eight times, everybody eight times. I hope you have a
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  Speaker 1: pen and paper out Season two episode six, Season four,
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  Speaker 1: episode ten, Season five, episode eleven, seven, Season five episode twenty,
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  Speaker 1: Season six episode fifteen, Season seven episode four, Season seven,
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  Speaker 1: episode twenty, and fall on Netflix. Sound of Music is
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  Speaker 1: all over the place in Gilmore Girls. Amy Sherman Palladino
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  Speaker 1: absolutely loved this musical. She loved it. It's all over
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  Speaker 1: the place. We're not going to go through every reference here,
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  Speaker 1: but we are going to highlight this one from season two,
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  Speaker 1: episode six, presenting Laura like Gilmour. You probably remember this
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  Speaker 1: is at the very beginning of the episode Lorlai and
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  Speaker 1: Rory are at Emily and Richard's house and they meet
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  Speaker 1: the new maid, Lisel, and Lorlai introduces herself and Rory
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  Speaker 1: as two of the Von Trapp children from Sound of Music.
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  Speaker 1: Lurlei says you're new, and Lisa says, oh, sorry yesterday,
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  Speaker 1: and lour Lea says, what's your name? The maid says Lisel,
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  Speaker 1: and Lourally says, okay, Lisel, I'm Brigita. This is Gretel,
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  Speaker 1: and Emily and Richard are expecting us. And Brigita and
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  Speaker 1: Gretel are two of the von Chapped children from Sound
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  Speaker 1: of Music. Check this out, everybody, brace yourselves. We are
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  Speaker 1: going to talk to Brigida herself. Brigida von Trapp played
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  Speaker 1: by Angela Cartwright. Angela Cartwright such a star and icon.
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  Speaker 1: She was lost in space after she did Sound of Music.
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  Speaker 1: She was in sounda Music when she was eleven years old.
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  Speaker 1: This movie won five Academy Awards. It's celebrating its sixtieth
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  Speaker 1: anniversary this year. How incredible is that we are going
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  Speaker 1: to talk to Angela right now. She is I can
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  Speaker 1: see her in the waiting room. Now she is doing
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  Speaker 1: She's spinning across the Austrian Alps. Right now, she's running
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  Speaker 1: around in the waiting room, and I'm going to let
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  Speaker 1: her in so we can get some of this magic
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  Speaker 1: here on the podcast. Angela, thank you so much for
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  Speaker 1: doing this.
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  Speaker 2: Wow, it's my pleasure to be here.
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  Speaker 1: Oh my goodness. Okay, well, I have so many questions
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  Speaker 1: for you. I read a Tiger Beat interview with you
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  Speaker 1: from September nineteen sixty seven. Those Tiger Meta interviews are great.
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  Speaker 1: I love it. But you're like, I think you're like
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  Speaker 1: twelve or thirteen when you did this interview, and you
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  Speaker 1: sound like a seasoned veteran actor, Like the stuff you
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  Speaker 1: had done to that point is just tremendous and astounding.
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  Speaker 1: You started when you're three years old, is that right?
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  Speaker 2: That's right I did. I started when I was three.
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  Speaker 1: That's incredible. I mean literally growing up on sets. I
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  Speaker 1: mean that, what a wild childhood to have.
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  Speaker 2: That's crazy, especially because it was totally by accident. I
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  Speaker 2: was born in England. It was the farthest thing from
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  Speaker 2: what my parents ever imagined for Veronica and myself, that's
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  Speaker 2: my sister, and we came here to live by the
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  Speaker 2: beach and the dream of coming to America. I mean,
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  Speaker 2: we immigrated through Canada. Took us a year and we
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  Speaker 2: arrived and it was just like my fate was already
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  Speaker 2: laid out for me and I started working right away,
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  Speaker 2: as did my sister, who looked all American with freckles,
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  Speaker 2: and we just you know, kind of took off it.
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  Speaker 2: It was just kind of crazy.
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  Speaker 1: It's so nuts, I mean, And again I watched I
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  Speaker 1: love that this is out there by the way. I
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  Speaker 1: watched the screen test you did for Sound of Music,
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  Speaker 1: and it's so fun to watch because like you're in
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  Speaker 1: such command of the character already, and I have to
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  Speaker 1: remind myself, like you're eleven years old, and I'm just like,
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  Speaker 1: I'm like you were, You're just born to do this.
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  Speaker 1: But again, with so much Sound of Music stuff to
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  Speaker 1: talk about, did you were you a singer before that role? Like,
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  Speaker 1: what's your singing background? You have such a beautiful voice.
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  Speaker 2: Oh, thank you. I did sing I took you know,
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  Speaker 2: singing lessons. I was on the Danny Thomas Show for
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  Speaker 2: seven years and they have me do some singing on
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  Speaker 2: that show. I did some singing. I did some dancing.
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  Speaker 2: Of course. You know the song the Balan k Yes
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  Speaker 2: or my album Angela Cartwright sings.
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  Speaker 1: I have been trying to get that my hands on
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  Speaker 1: that album for a while now. Okay, I'm in an
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  Speaker 1: eBay war right now with somebody.
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  Speaker 2: The thing that's so heartwarming about that is I do
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  Speaker 2: two songs with my dad who's no longer with us,
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  Speaker 2: and one is Starlight, Starbright. Every time I hear it,
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  Speaker 2: I cry. The other one is he is the Voice
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  Speaker 2: of Mister Jumbo, which was a show on The Danny
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  Speaker 2: Thomas Show where they all thought I was making up
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  Speaker 2: this person that was like really tall and everything. Cute
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  Speaker 2: story anyway, that was so I did sing, I sang,
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  Speaker 2: I danced. You know, I took lessons doing that tap
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  Speaker 2: dance ballet. But you know, it all kind of came
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  Speaker 2: naturally really to me. So I guess it was my
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  Speaker 2: dad did sing when he was younger, so maybe that
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  Speaker 2: was part of it.
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  Speaker 1: It's just you don't see that kind of performer anymore really,
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  Speaker 1: like like someone like like you just have such a
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  Speaker 1: command of of just being an entertainer and like hearing that,
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  Speaker 1: like all this stuff just came naturally the God. Some
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  Speaker 1: people are just touched by God to do this stuff.
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  Speaker 1: It's really really incredible stuff. Now, Brigita von Trapp. What
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  Speaker 1: a role, Like, I'm so curious how that developed and
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  Speaker 1: like what you went to Austria for three months? Is
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  Speaker 1: that right to film that? To film Sound of Music?
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  Speaker 2: Well, first of all, Danny let me out of my
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  Speaker 2: contract so that I could start the Sound of Music.
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  Speaker 2: Because we had been on our seven years, he'd been
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  Speaker 2: on eleven. He wanted to try other things producing and
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  Speaker 2: stuff like that. He let me out of the last
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  Speaker 2: show so that I could be Brigita. I auditioned with
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  Speaker 2: everybody else, you know, I went on an interview, I
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  Speaker 2: had to sing, I did this screen test. I felt
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  Speaker 2: you say that, you know, it just felt like I
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  Speaker 2: had command of it. Brigita was me. I mean I
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  Speaker 2: did test also for Louisa with a blonde wig, which
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  Speaker 2: was the older one. But I always just really felt
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  Speaker 2: like she was an old slipper, you know, I just
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  Speaker 2: put her on and she had curiosity. She you know,
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  Speaker 2: was faultless to tell the truth several times in the movie.
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  Speaker 2: So I felt like it was very much me, and
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  Speaker 2: I think Robert Wise kind of felt that also. You know,
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  Speaker 2: I did have dark hair. I'm glad they didn't make
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  Speaker 2: me die my hair. They did with Nicholas who played Frederick,
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  Speaker 2: and also Louisa Heather. But it was good because Chris
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  Speaker 2: Palmer had dark hair, so I think it kind of
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  Speaker 2: made it more real. He made that the children relatable,
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  Speaker 2: which I don't think in the original play they were
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  Speaker 2: as relatable. They were just these little mechanical children. And
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  Speaker 2: that has a lot to do with why this movie
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  Speaker 2: is so successful.
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  Speaker 1: Absolutely, And like I remember being a kid watching sound
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  Speaker 1: of Music and connecting so much with your your character.
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  Speaker 1: The other children, they're they're really stand out and they're
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  Speaker 1: just such a shining part of that movie. Yeah, So
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  Speaker 1: what was filming it like? Because like it's when you
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  Speaker 1: adapt like a stage musical to a movie, it's so
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  Speaker 1: much of that performance comes through. I mean what, like
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  Speaker 1: you had to rehearse a million times? I'm sure, Like,
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  Speaker 1: how did that go?
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  Speaker 2: We did? We rehearsed for a good couple months before
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  Speaker 2: we even were in front of the camera. They just
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  Speaker 2: don't do it like this anymore. We knew those songs inside.
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  Speaker 2: Now we went in the studio, we recorded with a
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  Speaker 2: full orchestra. For me, it was heaven. I had been
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  Speaker 2: on a show with an older boy, Rusty Hamer, who
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  Speaker 2: you know, used to trip me up and pull my
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  Speaker 2: hair and stuff like that. And so for me, I
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  Speaker 2: instantly connected with Heather, who was the one that played
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  Speaker 2: the older sister. The two of us were absolute Beatle
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  Speaker 2: fans and we just connected and it was just a blast.
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  Speaker 2: We became instant friends, and so we were kind of
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  Speaker 2: on this adventure together.
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  Speaker 1: You know.
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  Speaker 2: We went to this country where you know, we did
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  Speaker 2: our school work and outdoors on the lawn and then
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  Speaker 2: we would go and do field trips to all the
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  Speaker 2: places in Austria. It was just it was such a
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  Speaker 2: wonderful year out of my life. It was just great.
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  Speaker 1: I love hearing that. That makes me so happy because
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  Speaker 1: because that's as a fan, that's what I want to hear,
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  Speaker 1: you know, And I'm like, oh god, what if it
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  Speaker 1: was terrible or something? You know, that makes me so
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  Speaker 1: happy now. Julie Andrews, I'm like working with her. First
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  Speaker 1: of all, I wanted is there anything about her that
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  Speaker 1: might that you know, that might shock us, Like did
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  Speaker 1: she like eat a lot of TUTSI rolls or something?
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  Speaker 1: Is there anything weird about Julie Andrews that we need
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  Speaker 1: to know?
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  Speaker 2: You know, we connected as kids to her being our
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  Speaker 2: fraud line right in the beginning. It just come off
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  Speaker 2: of Mary Poppins, and she taught us all those songs.
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  Speaker 2: Between takes, she would, you know, we would, we would
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  Speaker 2: sit around and sing. I loved her. I think it
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  Speaker 2: was a part of strategy that she had this connection
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  Speaker 2: with all of us, But sometimes that leaves when a
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  Speaker 2: movie is over, and we've continued to, you know, stay
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  Speaker 2: in contact and and be a part of her a life.
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  Speaker 2: I mean, this movie catapulted her to you know, the
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  Speaker 2: success that she well deserved. What a voice. But we
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  Speaker 2: were there for the Lifetime Achievement award that she received,
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  Speaker 2: and she was so gracious and so lovely. And afterwards,
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  Speaker 2: you know, we talked all of us and she asked
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  Speaker 2: how we were doing. And that is who she is. Now.
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  Speaker 2: Can I say anything bad about her? Well, I hear
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  Speaker 2: she swears, although I don't remember her swear all out
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  Speaker 2: of that, but bless her heart, No, she was. She
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  Speaker 2: was lovely but not saccharine, not funny at all, straightforward
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  Speaker 2: shooter wanting to do a good job, showing up, professional,
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  Speaker 2: knew her lines and embraced all of us, which made
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  Speaker 2: the movie so magical.
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  Speaker 1: I love I love hearing that I love that so much.
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  Speaker 2: Now.
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  Speaker 1: The sound of music is about like a relationship between
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  Speaker 1: mothers and mother figures and their children, which is also
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  Speaker 1: inherently what this is a Gilmore Girls podcast, what Gilmore
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  Speaker 1: Girls is about. And it sounds like you had that
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  Speaker 1: kind of connection on set with Julie. Did you feel
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  Speaker 1: those themes as you were making the movie, like, like
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  Speaker 1: relationship between mothers and children. Was that something that affected
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  Speaker 1: you when you were making it.
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  Speaker 2: I don't think I really thought of it that way.
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  Speaker 2: I mean, we're on the set with us because you
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  Speaker 2: have to have a guardian, and my mom was always
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  Speaker 2: there through all my childhood. While I was on the set,
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  Speaker 2: I think we always thought of her as our fraud line.
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  Speaker 2: I think we really did. She just you know, was
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  Speaker 2: it wasn't like, you know, we hung with her, you know,
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  Speaker 2: all day long. But when the movie was over, she
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  Speaker 2: threw a pool party at the house she was living
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  Speaker 2: at at the time in Los Angeles, and I remember
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  Speaker 2: she gave Heather and me a Beatle book that was
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  Speaker 2: Love Letters to the Beatles or something.
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  Speaker 1: I still.
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  Speaker 2: Signed it in the in front. And you know, she
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  Speaker 2: was just endearing to us. So I can't say anything
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  Speaker 2: bad I'm not going to make up anything because she
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  Speaker 2: was you know, she was just a lovely human being
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  Speaker 2: and believing. I think she still is. Yeah.
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  Speaker 1: Well, now I have to know who's your favorite Beatle.
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  Speaker 1: Oh it was Paul, of course.
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  Speaker 2: Yeah. I loved Paul. Heather liked George, but I just
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  Speaker 2: loved Paul, and I just the music just resonated with me.
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  Speaker 2: I just loved it. I remember the day that my
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  Speaker 2: sister ran down the stairs in the house with this album.
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  Speaker 2: If you remember the very first Meet the Beatles album,
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  Speaker 2: they all had kind of red hair if you really bad.
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  Speaker 1: Yes, I remember that.
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  Speaker 2: Actually, Oh my gosh, I got my album from KRLA,
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  Speaker 2: you know, and we put it on and just loved it.
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  Speaker 2: And my parents loved Beatle music too, which I think really,
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  Speaker 2: you know, made it kind of interesting. We always had
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  Speaker 2: music on in the house, so that was nice that
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  Speaker 2: we could play that.
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  Speaker 1: Yeah, what a special thing to share with your parents,
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  Speaker 1: I know, especially like with the Beatles, that was a
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  Speaker 1: divisive thing in a lot of families.
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  Speaker 2: Oh the hair, it was my dad did say, I
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  Speaker 2: just wish they would get a hair, Okay, Dad, I mean,
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  Speaker 2: now we look at that with all the things and
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  Speaker 2: the trends that have gone through with the haircuts and
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  Speaker 2: stuff like that. I think that's kind of ridiculous. But
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  Speaker 2: you know, in those days in the sixties that was
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  Speaker 2: so long hair was like, you know, you were renegade
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  Speaker 2: or something. I don't know.
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  Speaker 1: It's so funny too, because like you look at every
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  Speaker 1: picture of them when like the long hair days, and
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  Speaker 1: they were like they're still like wearing suits and stuff,
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  Speaker 1: like they looked great. They're just like they had this
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  Speaker 1: crazy hair. Oh, I know, is there a memory from
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  Speaker 1: making the Sound of Music that, like what was the
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  Speaker 1: most challenging part of making that movie that you can remember?
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  Speaker 2: I guess being away from my family for so long
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  Speaker 2: because we were only supposed to be gone I believe
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  Speaker 2: about a month. Oh and my mom I had a
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  Speaker 2: two year old brother. Yeah, and my mom was very brave.
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  Speaker 2: She had never been a part for my family. We're
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  Speaker 2: very close knit. And you know, went to Austria and
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  Speaker 2: the rain was pretty bad in Austria and changed a
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  Speaker 2: lot of the shoot days. Actually interesting, so all the
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  Speaker 2: outside stuff was done there and when it was the
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  Speaker 2: sun was out. It was glorious, you know. But Robert Wise,
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  Speaker 2: who was our director, he did have a lot of
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  Speaker 2: challenges with the weather, and I think probably that was
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  Speaker 2: the most difficult part. My parent, my dad, my sister,
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  Speaker 2: and my brother did fly over. I'm sure my mother
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  Speaker 2: was terrified of the three of them being in an airplane.
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  Speaker 2: It did come over and stay with us. I'd have
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  Speaker 2: to look in her little diary. She had this little
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  Speaker 2: tiny diary where she wrote a sentence, you know, of
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  Speaker 2: every day special, which is so it's so wonderful to God.
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  Speaker 2: I love five year diaries anyway. They're one of my
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  Speaker 2: special little things that I love. Just a word here.
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  Speaker 2: It's so much fun to look back, yes, Ben, and
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  Speaker 2: what you've done. And I don't know when they came
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  Speaker 2: and when they left. I'm sure it's in there and
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  Speaker 2: I should look that up. But that was really great.
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  Speaker 2: I remember we were all together then, and then my
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  Speaker 2: sister had to fly back because she was gonna play
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  Speaker 2: Jemiah in Daniel Boone show. She had gotten the Daniel
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  Speaker 2: Boone Show. And I remember her writing me because who
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  Speaker 2: called in those days and saying, guess who was on
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  Speaker 2: our plane? Ringo star was on the plane when they
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  Speaker 2: went home. Oh, I was so ghouous.
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  Speaker 1: Oh my god, wow, I mean, how proud must your
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  Speaker 1: parents be and like your parents weren't in show business?
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  Speaker 2: Right?
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  Speaker 1: They like no, wow, And then both her daughters just
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  Speaker 1: get catapulted to start him incredible. We were hanging out
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  Speaker 1: with Angela cart Right, the star of the Sound of Music.
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  Speaker 1: We have so much more to get into. This is
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  Speaker 1: the Ice Smell Pop Culture podcast. Stick around, everybody, just
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  Speaker 1: a few commercials here, it's Ice Smell Paul Culture. My
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  Speaker 1: name's Easton. We're hanging out with Angela Cartwright, Righetta von Trapp,
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  Speaker 1: herself from the Sound of Music. She is here, she
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  Speaker 1: is real. We're doing this. The hills are alive with
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  Speaker 1: the Sound of Music. Well, I know you've been asked
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  Speaker 1: this a trillion times, and I apologize, but I just
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  Speaker 1: have to know what was your favorite like sequence make
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  Speaker 1: to film for that movie, Like, was there a specific
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  Speaker 1: song that you really enjoyed performing?
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  Speaker 2: Well, i'd have to say, and you know what, kind
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  Speaker 2: of blurred The lines are kind of blurred because I
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  Speaker 2: love do Riingney. I think it's just brilliant and if
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  Speaker 2: you think about it, nothing like that had ever been
• 18:55
  Speaker 2: done before that time. Robert Wise kind of did the
• 18:58
  Speaker 2: first music video we shot in all these different locations,
• 19:02
  Speaker 2: just little snippets of the song. You know, here we're
• 19:05
  Speaker 2: in a carriage. Here we're at the market. You know,
• 19:07
  Speaker 2: here we're running down you know, the archway in Marabell Gardens.
• 19:11
  Speaker 2: We went all over the city and just did the
• 19:14
  Speaker 2: one line. Can you imagine all the setups? But Robert Wise,
• 19:18
  Speaker 2: I don't know if you know. That's maybe a lot
• 19:21
  Speaker 2: of people don't is that Robert Wise was an editor
• 19:24
  Speaker 2: before he was a director.
• 19:25
  Speaker 1: I did not know that.
• 19:27
  Speaker 2: Yeah, he actually edited Citizen Kane, so he, in his mind,
• 19:36
  Speaker 2: I think, knew how it was going to go together.
• 19:39
  Speaker 2: He did a storyboard. You know, we didn't know. We
• 19:43
  Speaker 2: just you know, they'd say, okay, now you're going to
• 19:45
  Speaker 2: sit in this carriage and you're going to go dome
• 19:47
  Speaker 2: me me, me, me so so you know, and we'd like, oh, yeah,
• 19:50
  Speaker 2: we know that part because we'd rehearsed it so many times,
• 19:53
  Speaker 2: you know. The shot on the steps was was so
• 19:59
  Speaker 2: funny about this. When I go back to Austria and
• 20:03
  Speaker 2: I usually go every year, I lead a tour there
• 20:05
  Speaker 2: actually every year, and we go to all the locations
• 20:08
  Speaker 2: and I talk about my memories and it's really fun.
• 20:10
  Speaker 1: It's through crap oh, that's gonna be great.
• 20:14
  Speaker 2: But that routine on the steps, I can still remember
• 20:18
  Speaker 2: it today. It's like if you were you know, when
• 20:23
  Speaker 2: you were in school and you had to do like
• 20:24
  Speaker 2: drill team or something, you know, and if you remember
• 20:28
  Speaker 2: doing that routine or the cheerleading routine at the football game,
• 20:33
  Speaker 2: it's it just is there. I mean, I just can't
• 20:37
  Speaker 2: forget my part. It's crazy. That was quite intricate, actually,
• 20:43
  Speaker 2: that that whole scene. But they had built fake steps
• 20:48
  Speaker 2: back at twentieth Century Fox before we even left or
• 20:50
  Speaker 2: started filming, and so we practiced on those steps so
• 20:54
  Speaker 2: long farewell we had practiced. I like that song too.
• 20:58
  Speaker 2: I also love a device the song. I think it's
• 21:02
  Speaker 2: so moving and so pure and just a beautiful song.
• 21:08
  Speaker 1: It's like when you look at the songs from the
• 21:11
  Speaker 1: Sound of Music, it's just like it's it's it's staggering,
• 21:15
  Speaker 1: like like every single song is not just like not
• 21:19
  Speaker 1: just a good song, but the best musical songs of
• 21:23
  Speaker 1: all time, Like when the earth is a barren rock
• 21:27
  Speaker 1: floating through space, there will still be a record player
• 21:29
  Speaker 1: playing like my favorite things, you know, Like it's this
• 21:32
  Speaker 1: I cannot believe it. And the fact that You're part
• 21:35
  Speaker 1: of this legacy. Is just is so incredible. Sixty years
• 21:40
  Speaker 1: of the Sound of Music this year that is so awesome?
• 21:43
  Speaker 2: Isn't that crazy? And I'm only fifty No, yeah, sixty
• 21:47
  Speaker 2: years and you know, we just the five of us.
• 21:50
  Speaker 2: We've lost two of our members sadly. But the five
• 21:53
  Speaker 2: of us just returned from Florence, Italy. Wow, where they
• 21:57
  Speaker 2: showed the Sound of Music at the Teatra nicol Leni,
• 22:02
  Speaker 2: which is one of the oldest theaters in the world. Wow.
• 22:05
  Speaker 2: And they've totally restored it and they played it for
• 22:09
  Speaker 2: an Italian audience that it was packed, and they put
• 22:13
  Speaker 2: Italian subtitles and then they asked us questions afterwards. And
• 22:19
  Speaker 2: you know, you realize the reach of this movie. It's worldwide.
• 22:25
  Speaker 2: You know, it's huge in South America, and it's huge,
• 22:29
  Speaker 2: you know, all over the United States of course, and Europe.
• 22:33
  Speaker 2: And the only place it's not as huge is Austria yourself.
• 22:38
  Speaker 1: Interesting, I know, isn't that odd? That's fascinating.
• 22:42
  Speaker 2: Yeah, well there's reasons for that. But I think the
• 22:48
  Speaker 2: sixtieth we are going back there in October where the
• 22:52
  Speaker 2: five of Us are going to celebrate at the Salzburg gala,
• 22:57
  Speaker 2: which is a huge celebration. The place where we shot
• 23:01
  Speaker 2: the last scene, the festival scene. Wow, it's still there.
• 23:05
  Speaker 2: It's still a huge theater. It used to be open air,
• 23:09
  Speaker 2: but now it's got a roof on it. That's the
• 23:11
  Speaker 2: only change in sixty years. Maybe they're more comfortable. I
• 23:15
  Speaker 2: don't know, but that's going to be a thrill. I'm
• 23:18
  Speaker 2: really looking forward to to flying there and doing that.
• 23:21
  Speaker 2: That would be really really fun celebration. Wow.
• 23:25
  Speaker 1: Yeah, that will be great for anyone that gets to
• 23:28
  Speaker 1: attend that, And I can't wait to hear about it
• 23:30
  Speaker 1: all when you get back. Well, I mean, yeah, it's
• 23:36
  Speaker 1: just such the legacy lives on. It's one of those
• 23:39
  Speaker 1: things that like if you pull just a random young
• 23:42
  Speaker 1: person off the street and like start naming movies from
• 23:46
  Speaker 1: the sixties, they're probably you know, they might not know
• 23:49
  Speaker 1: that many, but if you say sound of music, they're
• 23:51
  Speaker 1: going to know, like the Hills are, Like they could
• 23:54
  Speaker 1: sing at least one, two, three songs from that movie.
• 23:57
  Speaker 1: It's just one of those things that are like I
• 23:59
  Speaker 1: think it's burned into the DNA of a popular culture forever.
• 24:05
  Speaker 2: I think there's a couple of things about that statement. First,
• 24:08
  Speaker 2: of all, in school, if you're in theater at all,
• 24:11
  Speaker 2: you probably have played one of the kids in the movie.
• 24:14
  Speaker 2: There are seven roles after all, along with all the
• 24:18
  Speaker 2: nuns and you know, you know, you captain, so there
• 24:22
  Speaker 2: are many roles to that, and it's usually done in
• 24:25
  Speaker 2: all the schools. So that's one thing. The other thing
• 24:28
  Speaker 2: is the songs itself, I think have kind of it's
• 24:36
  Speaker 2: skipped generations. So the moms and the dads, they maybe
• 24:40
  Speaker 2: you know, you maybe had to take dad the first time,
• 24:42
  Speaker 2: but then they loved it afterwards. It becomes a Christmas thing.
• 24:46
  Speaker 2: It becomes an Easter thing all the time. I hear
• 24:50
  Speaker 2: we always gather for, you know, Christmas, and we should
• 24:54
  Speaker 2: put the movie on. I also hear that when people
• 24:57
  Speaker 2: are kind of down and out and don't feel great,
• 25:00
  Speaker 2: or maybe they're recovering from something, they always put on
• 25:03
  Speaker 2: the sound of music. It lifts their spirits. So, you know,
• 25:07
  Speaker 2: Rogers and Hammerstein. It was the last thing I think
• 25:10
  Speaker 2: that Rogers wrote, or it might have been Hammerstein, don't
• 25:14
  Speaker 2: quote me on that, but it was brilliant. It was
• 25:19
  Speaker 2: brilliant music and I Am Confident was a new song.
• 25:23
  Speaker 2: And also something Good was a new song. That they
• 25:28
  Speaker 2: wrote for the movie.
• 25:29
  Speaker 1: Oh wow, I did not realize that that's I mean,
• 25:31
  Speaker 1: those are great songs. Yeah, yes, definitely, so you do
• 25:45
  Speaker 1: sound of Music. It's just this incredible experience. The movie
• 25:49
  Speaker 1: wins five Academy Awards, and then what do you go
• 25:53
  Speaker 1: directly into Lost in Space? Is that like the next
• 25:57
  Speaker 1: thing you do?
• 25:58
  Speaker 2: It went directly into Loss in Space? I did. I
• 26:03
  Speaker 2: went on. I was called into Irwin Allen's office. He
• 26:06
  Speaker 2: was a big fan of me in Danny Thomas show.
• 26:10
  Speaker 2: And I went in the office and he went, oh,
• 26:13
  Speaker 2: thank goodness, I thought you'd come in smoking a cigar.
• 26:18
  Speaker 2: That was Irwin. He was strange, but I mean, I
• 26:21
  Speaker 2: think he kind of mixed up that Danny used to
• 26:23
  Speaker 2: smoke cigars and how old I was going to be.
• 26:26
  Speaker 2: I might have been a lot older, but I was
• 26:29
  Speaker 2: kind of perfect for the part of Penny, and I
• 26:31
  Speaker 2: didn't have this fascination with space, even though Penny was
• 26:35
  Speaker 2: much braver than me. And I think it was another
• 26:41
  Speaker 2: really interesting combination of people. You know, we started off
• 26:45
  Speaker 2: a very serious, dramatic show and it kind of elevated
• 26:50
  Speaker 2: itself because Jonathan Harris became a very popular kind of
• 26:55
  Speaker 2: character and I loved Jonathan what. He was great, best
• 26:59
  Speaker 2: story teller I've ever met, but he knew that he
• 27:03
  Speaker 2: would be written out of the show if he didn't
• 27:05
  Speaker 2: create some character, and Doctor Smith was kind of his
• 27:10
  Speaker 2: creation and people, you know, it kind of went into
• 27:14
  Speaker 2: a more cult kind of show, kind of you know,
• 27:18
  Speaker 2: kind of weird and kind of funky and corny. But
• 27:23
  Speaker 2: it was the time of Batman and that came on
• 27:26
  Speaker 2: to the screen totally in color and you know, poo
• 27:30
  Speaker 2: and bam and all of this crazy stuff, so it
• 27:34
  Speaker 2: kind of fit in with that genre more than a
• 27:38
  Speaker 2: more serious show did.
• 27:40
  Speaker 1: Yeah, I personally loved the space that of the space
• 27:44
  Speaker 1: that it occupied because it was just like it was
• 27:47
  Speaker 1: so stylized and it was cool science fiction, but it
• 27:52
  Speaker 1: was also it was a lot of fun. The robot
• 27:53
  Speaker 1: looked so cool. I loved. You know, I'm I'm hearing
• 27:57
  Speaker 1: a Kiss FM in Los Angeles and I was walking
• 27:59
  Speaker 1: up on the halls of kind of going like, I'm
• 28:00
  Speaker 1: talking to Angela car right today, I'm talking and everyone
• 28:03
  Speaker 1: everyone's like starts poking their head out of their office, like,
• 28:05
  Speaker 1: oh my god. I had such a crush on Penny
• 28:07
  Speaker 1: on Lost in Space. You're talking to Penny. Yeah, so
• 28:11
  Speaker 1: that made me a hero here at the office. But
• 28:14
  Speaker 1: it really everybody like latched onto that show. And yeah,
• 28:18
  Speaker 1: and there's you know, they're they're doing reboots of it.
• 28:21
  Speaker 1: There's there's new versions of it. Everyone saw. That's another
• 28:23
  Speaker 1: one that like really stands the test of time. I
• 28:25
  Speaker 1: think is Lost in Space.
• 28:28
  Speaker 2: Yeah, you know at the time when we haven't been
• 28:30
  Speaker 2: to the moon, it was dream that people were like,
• 28:34
  Speaker 2: what's beyond what's in the stars? You know, with star
• 28:37
  Speaker 2: trek and stuff. So I think, excuse me, he grab
• 28:41
  Speaker 2: the imagination of a lot of people.
• 28:44
  Speaker 1: Yeah, and I know for me it did.
• 28:47
  Speaker 2: I thought, what is there on other planets? You know?
• 28:50
  Speaker 2: And I'm supposed to be this genius zoologist. I don't
• 28:54
  Speaker 2: know that, but I love that. And I had my Bloop,
• 28:58
  Speaker 2: my Debbie, who I dored. So it was it grabbed
• 29:04
  Speaker 2: a lot of people's imaginations. And then they rebooted it,
• 29:08
  Speaker 2: and I think the first one, the first movie, lost
• 29:12
  Speaker 2: a little bit of the magic that was part of it.
• 29:15
  Speaker 2: But the second one, which Kevin Burns, who was such
• 29:18
  Speaker 2: an advocate for the show, bless his heart, he's the
• 29:22
  Speaker 2: one that kept all those Irwin Allen shows going he's
• 29:26
  Speaker 2: no longer with us. Sadly miss him a lot, but
• 29:30
  Speaker 2: he had something to do with that Netflix show. I
• 29:33
  Speaker 2: mean he got it, he got who the characters were,
• 29:36
  Speaker 2: and I thought it was wonderful. That second one, I
• 29:39
  Speaker 2: thought it was you know, it was quite the twist,
• 29:43
  Speaker 2: and I love seeing Bill in there. Bill should have
• 29:45
  Speaker 2: been in the first one. I don't know why they
• 29:47
  Speaker 2: didn't that. I mean, there was an older Will. What
• 29:51
  Speaker 2: better could you get them? The real Billy?
• 29:54
  Speaker 1: Really? I mean, why wouldn't you go for that?
• 29:57
  Speaker 2: I don't know. I never got that myself. But the
• 30:01
  Speaker 2: second one I thought was great and it's still out
• 30:03
  Speaker 2: and I got to be a little cameo in that.
• 30:06
  Speaker 1: Did you know that I did it? I was going
• 30:08
  Speaker 1: to ask you, say, you had a cameo in that one.
• 30:11
  Speaker 2: Yeah, like kind of a wicked person. I mean, I'm
• 30:14
  Speaker 2: the reason those people were so screwed up. I loved it.
• 30:19
  Speaker 2: It was a small part, but I loved being a
• 30:22
  Speaker 2: part of it.
• 30:22
  Speaker 1: And I knew the fans would love that also, absolutely,
• 30:27
  Speaker 1: and the you know, the Lost and Space fans are
• 30:29
  Speaker 1: very passionate, and I know that they love seeing the cameo.
• 30:33
  Speaker 1: I saw that reaction online that was just such a blast.
• 30:36
  Speaker 1: Angela Cartwright, You're just the coolest person who has ever
• 30:38
  Speaker 1: walked to the earth. We love hanging out with you.
• 30:41
  Speaker 1: I have one more question for you, and this is
• 30:43
  Speaker 1: kind of weird, I apologize, but what does pop culture
• 30:47
  Speaker 1: smell like to you? Like, if you had to describe
• 30:50
  Speaker 1: the scent of pop culture, how would you describe it?
• 30:55
  Speaker 2: Oh? I think probably petrick door, which is the smell
• 31:00
  Speaker 2: after rain as if the ground. That's probably the smell
• 31:04
  Speaker 2: to me.
• 31:05
  Speaker 1: I that gave me chills my hair that I love
• 31:08
  Speaker 1: that answer. That's great.
• 31:10
  Speaker 2: Oh my god, that's one of my favorite things. I
• 31:13
  Speaker 2: love pop culture. That's great.
• 31:15
  Speaker 1: Well, you are an indelible part of pop culture and
• 31:18
  Speaker 1: we appreciate your contributions. Thank you for bringing Brigida to
• 31:21
  Speaker 1: life in the movie and everything you do for the fans.
• 31:25
  Speaker 1: We just appreciate it so much. You're You're the best, Angela.
• 31:28
  Speaker 1: Thank you again for doing this.
• 31:29
  Speaker 2: Thank you lovely. Talking to you
• 32:00
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