Latest / Unbalanced with Cerys Davage / 1. Growing up with Limb Girdle Muscular Dystrophy
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- 0:08Hello everyone and welcome to the first episode of Unbalanced
- 0:13with me, Cara Savage. You guys have no idea how long
- 0:17I've been wanting to start this podcast.
- 0:19It's been in the works for so, so long.
- 0:22The last few months have been absolutely crazy, but I feel
- 0:24like it's gotten to a point now where I just need to embrace the
- 0:27busyness in my life and try and do this podcast alongside it.
- 0:31So I really hope you guys will join me along for the ride.
- 0:34I have some really exciting and interesting people to interview,
- 0:38I have some amazing stories to share, and I just can't wait to
- 0:42see where this podcast goes. So I thought I'd start off this
- 0:46podcast by introducing myself a little bit, 'cause I feel like
- 0:50it's always best to listen to a podcast when you kind of feel
- 0:54like you know the host a bit more.
- 0:56I personally like that when I listen to podcasts.
- 0:58I love listening to little random life updates and I'm an
- 1:03oversharer. I like to talk about anything
- 1:05and everything in my life, So what better than to use that as
- 1:09a way to introduce myself? So I am currently 21 years old.
- 1:13Actually, my birthday is in a couple weeks, so I'm technically
- 1:1622. I live in Cardiff.
- 1:19I've been in Cardiff my whole life.
- 1:21I was born here, I went to school here, I went off to
- 1:23university in Aberystwyth University for three years and I
- 1:28graduated last July in 2022. And for a year I've just been
- 1:33back in Cardiff working full time with a Welsh TV production
- 1:37company. I absolutely love my job.
- 1:39I was really, really fortunate to get it.
- 1:42I do half and half work from home and working in the office.
- 1:46I love the flexibility of being able to work remotely and be
- 1:51able to socialize with other people.
- 1:52I'm a very sociable person, so being able to go into the office
- 1:56and be with other colleagues is really important to me because I
- 1:59just need to be around people anyway.
- 2:02I thought I could talk a little bit about my disability and how
- 2:07it affects me daily, 'cause I feel like this would be a good
- 2:10way to kind of lay the groundwork for the rest of the
- 2:13episodes that I'll have coming up.
- 2:14Because even though maybe I'll be discussing certain topics or
- 2:18interviewing other people, I will be bringing up my own
- 2:22experiences with my disability. So I feel like if I start off by
- 2:26just talking about it a bit and kind of laying the groundwork,
- 2:30that'll stay relevant then for the rest of my podcast and just
- 2:34give you guys some context. I am one of three sisters, I'm
- 2:37the oldest of three. So you can imagine when we're
- 2:41all together, the chaos can get a bit too much sometimes.
- 2:45What a lot of people don't know is that my two younger sisters
- 2:48also have muscular dystrophy as well as me.
- 2:51But it kind of affects us in different ways.
- 2:53It is actually really rare just for me to have it, let alone
- 2:57both of my sisters as well. It's a very rare condition,
- 3:00there's lots of different types. So I've got limb good or
- 3:02muscular dystrophy 2. I and both of my sisters do as
- 3:06well. But there are lots of different
- 3:08types of limb good or muscular dystrophy, for example 2D2A and
- 3:14essentially what that means is the gene.
- 3:17So it's just how it affects you genetically.
- 3:20The symptoms in between all these different types of limb
- 3:23good or muscular dystrophy are quite different and they do vary
- 3:27a lot but I'm obviously just gonna be talking from the
- 3:31perspective of someone with two I I actually have a funny story.
- 3:35So I had an accident when I was younger where I had jammed my
- 3:39finger in something and they rushed me to A&E and they asked
- 3:44me if I had any conditions and I said I have limb good or
- 3:48muscular dystrophy type 2. I the number two and the letter
- 3:52I and they must not have clocked onto that because the poorness
- 3:57who'd never heard of this condition before because who
- 4:00would have had written down to I as in to my eye.
- 4:04So they must have been so confused that I gave them this
- 4:08very pointless piece of information about my eyes when I
- 4:12was going in for something to do with my fingers.
- 4:15Anyway, now I'm gonna be outlining my timeline with
- 4:19muscular dystrophy. I think that's quite an
- 4:21important thing to do when I introduce this condition because
- 4:26it's a degenerative condition which means that it will get
- 4:30worse over time. And that's something I've had to
- 4:34get to grips with through the years is the fact that my
- 4:37condition has worsened over the years and will continue to
- 4:41worsen. So when I was about 11:00 or
- 4:4512:00, so towards the end of primary school, I was always the
- 4:49slowest in the class. In sports days I was always the
- 4:53slowest and always finished the races last.
- 4:57I just wasn't very good at it. I enjoyed sports, but it got to
- 5:00the point where I was never strong enough and I was never
- 5:04fast enough for sports to be fun for me.
- 5:08That, I think, was the first symptom, but at that point I
- 5:10didn't know that I had it. So then when I went into high
- 5:13school, I was 12 years old. I went in with the mindset that
- 5:18I just wasn't going to be doing much sports because I wasn't
- 5:22going to get picked for anything.
- 5:24I was too slow. I was also very small, so that
- 5:27didn't help. So I think that kind of lay the
- 5:31groundwork when I went into high school that I wasn't going to
- 5:34participate in many sports things.
- 5:36I did try hockey for a term, but I think I just found that too
- 5:40fatiguing to carry that on and I was just never really good at
- 5:43it. So that was obvious from the get
- 5:45go. Sports just wasn't for me.
- 5:48And then I think it must have been when I was about 15, maybe
- 5:5214 or 15, I started to struggle with stairs.
- 5:56I think I would just be a bit slow.
- 5:59And my friend was very supportive through school.
- 6:02She would kind of help me up the stairs.
- 6:05And at this point I knew that I had the condition.
- 6:07So my parents had told me about it when I was about 13.
- 6:10So I think I was able to lookout for symptoms a bit more.
- 6:13And I think at that point, about 14 or 15, if I didn't know about
- 6:17the condition at that point, I would have definitely started to
- 6:19question that there must have been something wrong because I
- 6:23was struggling with the stairs and no one else was.
- 6:25So I definitely found that walking to and from school and
- 6:30walking in between the classes, up and down stairs a lot was
- 6:33definitely taking a lot out of me.
- 6:36I think stairs and hills were the main problems.
- 6:38I was really starting to struggle walking up stairs and
- 6:42hills, and then I think it must have been around 15 or 16.
- 6:45I'm literally going off the top of my head.
- 6:47By the way, I'm sorry, I don't have, I don't have like a
- 6:50specific timeline. I didn't write these down at the
- 6:52time, but I've had to go through my timeline with a lot of
- 6:55different doctors and physiotherapists in the past.
- 6:58So I'm pretty good at being able to tell around when these
- 7:02symptoms started. So bear with me here.
- 7:05So I think I was about 15 or 16 when I started falling and I
- 7:12call this a weak leg. So essentially what it was was I
- 7:15would just be walking, not necessarily at a fast pace, just
- 7:19casual walking, and one of my knees would just randomly give
- 7:23way and I would just collapse to the floor.
- 7:26And I didn't really have any kind of intuition about it.
- 7:30I would never know when it was going to happen.
- 7:32It just happened. This actually occurred quite a
- 7:36lot in my later teen years. I was very used to the fact that
- 7:41I may fall at any given moment. I was very used to having holes
- 7:45in my trousers and having to sew up holes over and over again,
- 7:49especially in my school trousers.
- 7:51I think I was quite scared of wearing skirts or anything with
- 7:55an open knee because I've had a lot of accidents where I've
- 7:58grazed my knee or quite badly bruised my knee.
- 8:02So you can imagine when I fall and I already have a bruise or a
- 8:06cut there, it's not pretty and it's not very pleasant.
- 8:10So yeah, that's definitely something I had to adjust to the
- 8:14thought of. And I sometimes would be alone
- 8:18so that there'd be no one around to help me get up, and sometimes
- 8:22I'd be with friends who may not have known about the condition.
- 8:25So I then at the spot would have to quickly explain the gist of
- 8:28the fact that I had muscular dystrophy.
- 8:31I think when I was in school I hadn't really been very vocal
- 8:34about my condition because it wasn't very obvious, and to the
- 8:38untrained eye no one would have been able to tell.
- 8:41But I had it. But when things like this
- 8:43happen, if I struggle with hills or stairs, or if I randomly fell
- 8:47over, people would obviously then start to question things.
- 8:51So as I transitioned from high school to uni, at that point I
- 8:55had a lot more symptoms, so I would really struggle getting up
- 8:59from the floor. I know that that's a struggle
- 9:02for a lot of people anyway, but I really at that point just
- 9:05struggled, even getting up from one knee or using all of my
- 9:10limbs to get up, so that was very much a struggle.
- 9:14Getting up from seats was also a problem.
- 9:17I would have to use my arms a lot, and I think in that period
- 9:20of time I really started to notice that my legs were the
- 9:23limbs that were getting the weakest.
- 9:26I was really struggling with walking long distances, walking
- 9:31up hills, walking upstairs was becoming more and more of a
- 9:34barrier in my life. I think I would have to use
- 9:38banisters to walk upstairs or I wouldn't be able to walk up the
- 9:41stairs. I think more and more my right
- 9:44knee started turning inwards when I walked, so as I got older
- 9:49the condition started to become a bit more obvious to anyone
- 9:53around me. So then when I went into uni I
- 9:56had to apply for accommodation which had no stairs so that I
- 10:01could try and avoid steps at all costs.
- 10:03The only thing is I went to Aberystwyth University and if
- 10:07anyone has been there you would know that the university is
- 10:11based right on top of a hill and it's a very steep, very long
- 10:15hill. I think I've climbed it a total
- 10:18of two or three times and that has been with great struggle and
- 10:23an immense amount of help from friends.
- 10:26So that has obviously been a struggle.
- 10:28But I was able to use taxis or lifts from friends, which is
- 10:32obviously great, but I think being in uni really challenged
- 10:37me physically. I am definitely the type of
- 10:40person who likes a good night out, so that was a struggle as
- 10:43well. I will do a full episode on what
- 10:46it's like going out clubbing or going on a night out in general
- 10:51with a disability, but doing that repetitively or every
- 10:54weekend or whatever it was, just going out and socializing was
- 10:59very difficult for me as I got through university because it
- 11:05was just a lot for me physically, especially after
- 11:07doing such a physical course as well.
- 11:09I did drama and theatre studies and half of those modules were
- 11:13workshops, so they were very physical.
- 11:17To be fair to the university, they were very understanding of
- 11:20my condition and they were able to tailor some of the activities
- 11:26and some of the things that I had to do in my course to my
- 11:29condition, which was great. And I think at that point I
- 11:32realized that I have to be more vocal about my condition.
- 11:36Now it's getting to the point where it's affecting me.
- 11:39I can't climb up on top of things.
- 11:41I can't stand around for a long time.
- 11:45I need to just reach out and ask for help.
- 11:47And that did take a while because I wasn't vocal about my
- 11:50condition in high school, because I didn't think that it
- 11:53affected me that much, to the point where I'd need to remind
- 11:56someone of my condition. But in that time where I got
- 11:58into uni, I realized that this is different.
- 12:01Now I'm struggling with a lot more things and people wouldn't
- 12:06know that unless I pointed my condition out to them.
- 12:08So that's definitely something that I've had to adjust my brain
- 12:12to and be a bit more open to. It definitely took me a while to
- 12:15be confident. Obviously now I'm very vocal
- 12:19about it, but in university it was definitely a very big
- 12:22transition period in my life where I just had to speak out
- 12:26more. I had to let all my uni friends
- 12:29know about my condition so that they could be more considerate
- 12:32of what I could and couldn't do, you know?
- 12:35And I would have to ask for help for someone to give me a lift
- 12:39somewhere. Or I would ask my lecturers if I
- 12:42was able to sit down, you know, during a workshop or whatever it
- 12:46was. So I think that was a major
- 12:49turning point for me in university.
- 12:51I also had a great time in university, so I'm not saying
- 12:54that it stopped me. It was just something that kind
- 12:56of changed within me that I knew I had to be more vocal about it.
- 13:00So then coming home from university, I graduated last
- 13:03year. I was in touch with my home and
- 13:06school friends a lot more and during uni as well, but
- 13:09obviously I just didn't see them as much.
- 13:11But they only knew me from high school really.
- 13:14They hadn't really seen me during uni when I was beginning
- 13:17to struggle a lot more as I was getting older.
- 13:19So that was quite interesting to have to explain my condition to
- 13:23them that they kind of knew about but only seen it affect me
- 13:28a few times, like if I fell over or something.
- 13:30But now seeing me as a bit older and more affected version of me
- 13:36with my condition. The same goes with family as
- 13:39well, actually, family that I hadn't seen for a long time.
- 13:41I had to kind of reintroduce my condition to them and just say
- 13:47this is how the condition affects me now.
- 13:49This is what I can and can't do. I know that I used to be able to
- 13:52do this. I know that I used to be able to
- 13:54climb stairs, but now I really, really struggle with it.
- 13:57So now at this very point in my life, I have definitely worsened
- 14:02since university, but I think I'm in a good place to be able
- 14:07to handle it now. So for example, walking up the
- 14:10stairs, I try and avoid this at all costs.
- 14:13Obviously it's inevitable at some points, but in order to
- 14:17climb up the stairs I need both my hands, both my arms on a rail
- 14:20or a wall or whatever it is around me.
- 14:22A friend, my boyfriend, to be able to help me to get up the
- 14:26stairs. So I can't just walk up the
- 14:28stairs with my legs. They are physically too weak to
- 14:31do that. I also can't run anymore and
- 14:34this was quite a struggle for me because I used to like running
- 14:37on the treadmill in the gym and just going at my own pace and
- 14:40taking my time. But I can't do that anymore.
- 14:44I discovered that through trying to run and then having a weak
- 14:47leg and falling. So that wasn't fun at all.
- 14:50And that kind of indicated to me right it's time to give up
- 14:53running. It's too dangerous and obviously
- 14:56I don't want to risk me falling again.
- 14:58So I just like to go for walks and kind of take my own time.
- 15:02It's definitely something I've needed to adjust to in life as
- 15:05well. Not being able to run means I
- 15:08can't run for the train. If I'm late, I can't run up to
- 15:12someone that I haven't seen in a long time and stuff like that.
- 15:15You know what I mean? I can't run if I'm late and I
- 15:17can't run for fun. So that's something I've had to
- 15:21adjust to. But I'm kind of in a good place
- 15:23with it now. I haven't run actually for a
- 15:25long time, so that's OK and I'm kind of at peace with that
- 15:29because otherwise I would just stress myself out.
- 15:32If I knew that I was going to be late for something and I
- 15:35couldn't run and get all stressed out about it, that
- 15:37wouldn't help anyone. So I'm really trying to stay in
- 15:40the mindset that it is what it is.
- 15:42If I'm late for something, I'm gonna be late.
- 15:44It's fine. I will probably do another
- 15:46episode on being at peace with my disability because there's a
- 15:49lot of things that I could cover.
- 15:51But for now, that's just kind of the main thing that I've had to
- 15:54adjust to. There's also been lots of little
- 15:56things. For example, getting dressed.
- 15:58I think I'm really struggling with now, losing my balance a
- 16:01lot. I haven't fallen as much as I
- 16:03used to while I was in school, but it still happens.
- 16:06Now I'm at a point where when I go for a walk anyway, whenever I
- 16:10walk, I need to kind of focus on it mentally.
- 16:13So if you see me walking out and about half my brain is focused
- 16:17on just walking, I need to concentrate on that because
- 16:21otherwise if I let my mind wander, my leg might give way.
- 16:24And don't get me wrong, my leg still gives way even if I
- 16:27concentrate on walking. But I think for me it's really
- 16:30helped me control myself a bit more if I'm focusing and putting
- 16:34my mind to the fact that I'm walking and to try and stay
- 16:36strong and it can be quite mentally fatiguing as well.
- 16:40But I think that it has helped me day-to-day.
- 16:43When I go on walks, I really struggle getting up from the
- 16:45floor. And the awkward thing is when I
- 16:49do fall in front of people, they offer their hand to help me get
- 16:52up. But when I fall and try and get
- 16:55up again, the only way I'm able to get up is by pushing myself
- 17:00up from the floor with my hands. Or if there's anything around me
- 17:03that I can kind of use to push myself up from, that's the only
- 17:06way I can get up myself. So if anyone offers me a hand, I
- 17:11not strong enough to pull on their hands and for my leg
- 17:14muscles to push me up. So as much as someone offering a
- 17:19hand to help me up is very kind of them, it's actually still not
- 17:24possible for me to get up from the floor doing that.
- 17:26So if I ever fall in front of you, you just gotta let me do my
- 17:29thing. Unless you're strong enough to
- 17:32be able to pick me up from my armpits all the way up to
- 17:34standing. That would be ideal.
- 17:36So my boyfriend does that, my dad does that, my friends do
- 17:40that sometimes. So yeah, that is very useful.
- 17:44If someone can pick me up straight to standing, that is
- 17:47the ideal situation. Because in that case, I don't
- 17:49need to use my muscles to get up from the floor.
- 17:52But if there's no one around, that's how I would get up from
- 17:55the floor. So kind of go on all fours
- 17:57downward dog, and then use my hands to kind of climb up my
- 18:01body up to standing. Another thing that I really
- 18:04struggle with currently, and I know will worsen overtime and
- 18:09I'm kind of prepared for that, is bending down to pick
- 18:12something up from the floor or foot squats or whatever it is.
- 18:16Actually, hang on, I don't know why I said that cause I
- 18:19literally can't do squats at all.
- 18:21I guess that's because by the time I reach a certain point my
- 18:24legs will just give way and get too weak and I'll just fall.
- 18:26So squats is out of the question.
- 18:28But bending down to pick something up or bending down for
- 18:31any reason is really difficult because coming back up is what I
- 18:35struggle with. So limb girdle muscular
- 18:38dystrophy affects my limb girdles, which is essentially
- 18:42the joints in a way. So my shoulders, my hips, my
- 18:47knees, these muscles are primarily affected by my
- 18:50condition and then it kind of spreads to the rest of the
- 18:54muscles I suppose. So all of my muscles are
- 18:56affected, but mainly the limb girdles, the joints of the
- 19:01muscles, I guess. I'm obviously not a
- 19:04professional, I'm not a medical person, but that's the best way
- 19:07to describe it informally to someone who's trying to
- 19:10understand the condition a bit better.
- 19:12So that's the description that we're going with.
- 19:14So my hips are especially weak and obviously bending down and
- 19:19coming back up again is something that you really need
- 19:22strong hips for. So if I drop something, I drop
- 19:25my car keys all the time. It's the most frustrating thing
- 19:29because it's usually in front of someone and I have to bend down
- 19:32and pick it up and very slowly come back up again.
- 19:36And someone's probably thinking, gosh, she's got dodgy knees,
- 19:38she's got dodgy hips, hasn't she?
- 19:40But yeah, it is frustrating to have to pick something up.
- 19:44But I do have a grabber now. You know, you can get them on
- 19:47Amazon. The only other time I've seen
- 19:49them is when I see people use them for litter picking, you
- 19:53know, like on the street or something.
- 19:54So it's essentially one of those, it's I've literally got a
- 19:57litter picker to pick up my things.
- 19:59But the only thing is I obviously need that around with
- 20:02me if I need to pick something up and I keep it in my room.
- 20:05So if I drop anything outside of my room, it's on me.
- 20:07I have to go down and pick it up.
- 20:10Come back up again. So that's again something I've
- 20:13been struggling with but I've had to adjust to and kind of
- 20:16just accept in my life. I used to love going on walks,
- 20:21but now I do struggle with walking for a long period of
- 20:25time. So going on big days out for
- 20:29example, it would be a write off for me.
- 20:32So I've had to use a wheelchair. I think I first use a wheelchair
- 20:36when I went to Disney World in Florida in 2017 and obviously
- 20:40that's a lot of walking. If you guys have been, or if
- 20:43you've heard of how the map works out in Disney World, it's
- 20:47all just a lot of walking. You get a lot of steps in when
- 20:50you go to Disney World. So I think we were at Epcot and
- 20:53we were going around all the different countries and I was
- 20:55having a blast, but I was getting so tired and my muscles
- 20:59were really beginning to hurt, especially my legs.
- 21:01So I remember my mum asking if I wanted to rent a wheelchair to
- 21:06sit in. I thought I couldn't stand the
- 21:08thought of that. I don't want to sit in a
- 21:09wheelchair. I don't want to look disabled.
- 21:12I don't want to do that, but I knew in my heart that I had to
- 21:15use it because there was no other way I was gonna survive
- 21:18the rest of the day and the rest of this trip.
- 21:20So my mum went and got a wheelchair and I remember
- 21:23sitting down on it and just feeling weight lifting off my
- 21:26shoulders, but also feeling really embarrassed and guilty
- 21:30that I was sat in a wheelchair. I was like only old people sit
- 21:33in wheelchairs. What what am I doing?
- 21:35Like now People know. Now people are gonna feel sorry
- 21:38for me. Don't get me wrong, I love
- 21:39attention, but not in this way. I did not want people staring at
- 21:43me. And you know, like, you know,
- 21:45when you see people in wheelchairs, you don't want to
- 21:47be disrespectful to them. So you don't want to kind of
- 21:51ignore them and ignore that they're there.
- 21:53But you don't want to stare. So you kind of look at them and
- 21:55then you kind of look away. But it's like just normal human
- 21:58beings. I don't know why we do this as a
- 22:01society. And even though I'm a wheelchair
- 22:03user, I still do this because it's like, I acknowledge that
- 22:06you're disabled, or I acknowledge that you're in a
- 22:08wheelchair but don't see you any less of a human being than
- 22:11anyone else. So you can imagine being in the
- 22:15wheelchair and already being a person who kind of acknowledges
- 22:19someone in a wheelchair but doesn't want to be disrespectful
- 22:21by staring or wondering what condition they have.
- 22:24Do they have something similar to me or whatever?
- 22:27You can imagine me sitting in that chair thinking people are
- 22:30going to think that I can't walk.
- 22:31People are going to think that I'm like, really disabled and
- 22:34I'm not. I just like, I just have weak
- 22:36legs. I just have painful legs
- 22:38sometimes. That's it.
- 22:39So I think I was very much in denial when I first started
- 22:41using a wheelchair. I was very adamant that this
- 22:44wasn't going to define me. This wasn't going to take over
- 22:47my life. But I think it definitely got to
- 22:49a point during that trip where I caved and I knew I had to just
- 22:54face the fact that a wheelchair was going to help me and that I
- 22:57needed it and that wheelchair should be my friend and not
- 23:00something to be embarrassed of. I remember crying the first time
- 23:02I used that wheelchair in Disney World.
- 23:04I remember being so embarrassed. But now it just helps me.
- 23:08And I remember getting out of the wheelchair afterwards and
- 23:10people staring at me like as if to say what, she was in a
- 23:13wheelchair. Now she can walk.
- 23:15Has this person just been healed?
- 23:17And essentially not everyone in a wheelchair can't walk?
- 23:20And that's something that I don't think people consider.
- 23:23When they see someone in a wheelchair, doesn't mean they
- 23:26can't walk. It just means they need it for
- 23:28if they're too tired or they're in too much pain to walk.
- 23:31But it doesn't mean that they can't walk altogether.
- 23:34So anyway, now I have my own wheelchair at home, My sister
- 23:38has just got one as well. And it is just so useful for
- 23:43when I go out on trips with my family or with friends, when I
- 23:46know there's going to be a lot of walking involved and I
- 23:49personally can't do that anymore.
- 23:50So that's actually saved me and it's been a way for me to still
- 23:55be able to socialize with my friends and to not miss out on
- 23:58big opportunities. Don't get me wrong, there are
- 24:00some opportunities where I can't take a wheelchair, therefore I
- 24:03can't go, or we have to make adjustments as a friend group or
- 24:07as a family when we make plans. But on the whole, a wheelchair
- 24:11has actually really helped me. And even if I'm not struggling
- 24:14right at the beginning of the day, a wheelchair has really
- 24:17helped me kind of conserve my energy for later on.
- 24:21So say I'm struggling walking in the morning and I'm sat in the
- 24:24wheelchair all afternoon, just can't move my muscles.
- 24:28I'm just too weak, I'm in too much pain.
- 24:30I would not enjoy the rest of the day.
- 24:31So I think using a wheelchair right from the beginning of the
- 24:34day can help me then conserve my energy for later on in the day.
- 24:39I can use that energy a bit more emotionally and mentally when I
- 24:43socialize, so at least then I don't need to focus on the fact
- 24:47that I have painful muscles. I think I've covered a lot of my
- 24:53main symptoms with this condition.
- 24:55I will probably do another episode eventually, maybe
- 24:58talking a bit more about my experiences with this condition
- 25:02and maybe explain some more symptoms.
- 25:04But I think I've covered the main symptoms that affect me
- 25:07right now in my life, so I think I might leave it there for
- 25:11today's episode. Obviously, I will keep you guys
- 25:14updated on this journey and I love this podcast as a way to
- 25:19kind of keep track of my symptoms because obviously my
- 25:23symptoms will change all the time.
- 25:25So this is actually a great way to keep track and to update
- 25:28people about my condition as well as educate people and make
- 25:32other people who might have the same condition as me feel like
- 25:36they're less alone in this. So, but that being said, I have
- 25:40really enjoyed recording my first episode.
- 25:43I hope you guys have enjoyed listening to it.
- 25:45I know that it's probably not the most exciting episode just
- 25:48because I was giving you guys my back story basically.
- 25:52But I hope that you guys will stick around for what's to come
- 25:55because I've got some really exciting stuff coming up.
- 25:58I really can't wait for you guys to hear the amazing stories that
- 26:01I've got planned for you, whether that be from my
- 26:04perspective or from someone else that I'm getting onto this
- 26:07podcast. It would mean so much if you
- 26:09guys pressed follow, if you listen to this on Spotify and
- 26:12press the little bell next to it so you know when my next episode
- 26:16is out. And please feel free to ask me
- 26:18any questions on Instagram or Twitter at Kerristav.
- 26:23I might do a Q&A episode at some point.
- 26:27And it will be great to kind of talk a bit more about what you
- 26:31guys want to hear as well. Thank you guys so much for
- 26:34listening. I've really enjoyed hanging out
- 26:35with you guys today and processing what's happened over
- 26:39the last few years and document it into this little episode.
- 26:43This doesn't really cover everything, but I think it's
- 26:46been a really good start to basically know where I can go
- 26:49from here. Thank you for all the love and
- 26:51support that you've shown me so far on social media, and I will
- 26:56see you guys very soon in the next episode.
- 26:58Bye.