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Iowa Hoops rolls, College Football Playoff Rankings, Matt Rudy previews Michigan State/Iowa & the Voice of the Chiefs Mitch Holthus stop by · The Lunch Rush with Trent Condon

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  Right, Good afternoon. Welcome, Nora Condon on a
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  drizzle filled, awful, misty, cold, chilling day.
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  But we welcome you to the Iowa Sports Radio Network wherever
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  you're listening. That's what it's doing in
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  downtown Des Moines. Anyways, we will talk some
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  sports in the next couple of hours and glad you've chosen at
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  least to spend some of that time here with Trent Condon and
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  myself, Ken Miller on our program this morning.
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  We will talk to our friend Matt Rudy.
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  He is a Michigan State alum. He was in Madison Square Gardens
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  last night watching Michigan State to do battle with Kentucky
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  in a pretty good basketball game.
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  Michigan, they looked really good.
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  It was a fun night of sports last night that coming up in a
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  moment. So we'll talk to Matt Rudy.
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  We'll do basketball, we'll do football.
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  Kind of put a cap on the on the golf season as he is our golf
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  guy. He's covered PGA for decades.
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  So he'll join us coming up here at about 12:25.
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  Then Mitch Holt is the voice of the Chiefs.
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  They've got a massive game at at home this weekend against the
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  Colts, Colts and the Chiefs. Mitch Holt is joins us Papa
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  John's Central Iowa sponsors that our number 2 David Kaplan
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  will join us. Not sure if you'll join us right
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  at the top of the second hour of the show.
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  He's got an event. He's emceeing an event and
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  hopefully it'll wrap up on time that he can give us the full,
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  oh, 15 minutes or so than he normally does on Wednesday.
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  Centurion Stone of Iowa sponsors that show de Menaga back with
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  the Cubs as he decided to stick around, obviously to a lot of
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  bears conversation with Cappy that comes up to kick off our
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  number 2 and then Matt Norlander from CBSSports.com.
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  He covers college basketball, basketball.
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  He, too was at the Garden last night.
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  We'll talk to Norlander about college hoops, kind of get his
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  take from a national perspective, what he's seen
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  earlier. I love when we get these
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  national guys, whether it be Norlander or Doster, some of the
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  other guys that we rely on. Always good to go outside the
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  state borders and see how they see things.
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  But Madison Square Garden was fun last night watching that
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  young Duke team take on Kansas. That was kind of a nail biter
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  for a while. But the early game was good and
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  good to talk to you. And how are you, Trent Condit?
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  Doing well, finally. I saw it well in college
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  basketball last night. We got both sides of that.
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  Yeah, 5 and O night. Did you get that big?
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  Oh yeah. Nice.
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  What was the team? You lay in the lumber, I think.
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  Well, we had. 5 1/2. We had the Skyhawks last night,
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  the UT Martin as they got home against Florida State, getting
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  20 1/2 in that one. But we got a long ways to dig
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  out of the hole. We are still deep into the hole
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  here, over there. It's a start.
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  It's a start. Had Rhode Island, Michigan
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  State, Duke and Iowa. Well, that was nip and tuck for
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  a while. Pulled away how?
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  Much did you watch? All of it.
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  It really did good for you. I watched probably 18 minutes
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  combined, maybe 12 in the first half, six in the second-half.
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  There was it was a great night of sports.
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  It really was. The games at at Madison Square
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  Garden had my full attention. The College Football Playoff
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  rankings. I was locked and loaded there.
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  My jets were playing so I was dipping in and out of that.
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  I never saw snap em action. I will rectify that tonight.
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  Will you? Yes, because it's the final and
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  there's good basketball being played at the United Center.
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  And and before that, Arizona, UConn.
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  When do they play at 6:00? I mean, that's a top five
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  matchup. You're going to watch that
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  garbage. Yeah.
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  I have to. You're going to Arizona, UConn.
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  No, I know I'll watch. I'll, I'll flip back and forth,
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  but I got to watch from action, you know, I'm an action guy.
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  And this is it. The curtain comes down.
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  Thank God. Now, why does it bother you?
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  I know it's not great football and there's nobody in the stands
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  and the announcers you've never heard of.
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  And if you get assigned a game in the a game in the Mac on a
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  Tuesday or Wednesday are probably not long for ESPN.
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  Maybe, you know, maybe whatever. But but nonetheless, yes.
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  So, yeah, it's a great night at college hoops.
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  Trent. It is with that game.
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  And and then there's one that follows the Zags play tonight.
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  Well, Illinois, they got a big one themselves.
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  So Illinois tonight at the United Centre gets Alabama.
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  That's FS1, correct? Yes, both the games are on FS1,
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  so both the big games tonight will be on there.
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  So good night at college basketball.
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  That's where I will be. You can watch that awful
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  football. I was, and I watched some awful
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  basketball. Not to Iowa in particular,
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  because you know what I noticed? And it's, I'm guessing
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  obviously, that they've talked because Sturtz only played 33
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  minutes. And I love the fact that
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  Mccollum's doing this because, and this is no offense to the
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  Valley, none whatsoever, it's a little more physical in the Big
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  10. And Bennett Sturtz is going to
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  be, obviously, I don't want to say that this team will go as
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  far as Sturtz takes them, but he's obviously a pretty big part
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  of it. And if you can save a little
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  wear and tear on those tires, you know, leading into Big 10
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  player throughout Big 10 play, maybe that'll help.
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  I think that's the only way to see it without Bennett starts
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  this team. Not very good, no.
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  And he saw that during the stretch when he wasn't in there
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  and it felt like but McCullum was gonna pull his hair out.
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  But but he saw him. It just what a player he is
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  True. He is amazing.
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  Hmm and to have this level of player he is for?
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  One year and that's that's the kicker.
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  Yeah, I'm. Going to enjoy this.
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  No I don't. I hasn't had a point guard like
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  this in 30 years. No, it's been a long time and he
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  is special, there's no doubt about that.
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  The way he gets to the hoop, that little underhand dipsy dude
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  that he's got in his bag and he sees the floor so well and God,
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  he's fun to watch. But I'm anxious to, you know,
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  see some a real opponent on the other side of the floor.
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  So Hassan plays a little bit more.
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  Now it's down 33 borders. I'm glad you brought that up, I
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  meant. To work his way back into shape,
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  it looks like. So what?
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  What was was that? Itch.
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  Yeah. I mean, you can look budgy.
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  He looks out of shape and needs to work because he was hurt a
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  lot during the summertime. So that's going to be a pink
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  component. And we know how important
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  conditioning is. You got to play defense and you
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  got to be well conditioned and when you're working way back
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  because we thought coming into the year, both him and Fool
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  Garris were going to be starters.
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  Fool Garris, a nice player. And Fool Garris is excellent and
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  he's going to do a lot of nice things this year.
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  When will that change? Will it change?
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  Will. What we had in the minutes.
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  Yeah, I mean minutes, starters, those kind of things for.
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  Hostin. For both those guys, they're
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  both coming off the bench. Two guys I think we had maybe in
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  Penn that were going to be starters coming into the season.
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  That obviously has not happened. Vulgaris played 16 minutes
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  yesterday, Hostin played. He was single digits.
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  I don't remember. No, he played 20.
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  Did he play 20 minutes? Did he really?
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  Yeah, OK. And vulgaris had 20 what?
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  Low 20s. 26. 26 Yep, that's about right it.
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  Doesn't matter if you get your name called right, but I think
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  that's gonna happen. Yeah.
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  Brendan Housen, he had opportunities go other places.
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  Yeah. He didn't come here to come off
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  the bench. No.
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  You look for glares and I think they're going to get there early
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  in the season. Go with the guys that you know,
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  guys that you trust. And as you're building trust
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  with both of those guys, I think eventually both of them will be
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  starters for this team because. Koch's the only one that's
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  playing right in the starting lineup that he that he didn't
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  have. Last year, exactly.
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  The lone holdover out of the scholarship guys from a year
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  ago. But then you go, well, who goes
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  to the bench? Probably Howard.
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  Howard hasn't played. It's been OK.
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  He's had flashes, but he's been OK.
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  He would definitely be 1. And I like Banks coming off the
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  bench. There's something about Tavion
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  Banks and and having that kind of athlete guy that can get to
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  the rim like him. Iowa hasn't had many guys like
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  that. So that's probably the direction
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  I would look is that Howard and Banks would be the guys then
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  coming off the bench and then put full Garrison house and
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  eventually into the starting lineup down the road.
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  We'll get another tune up tomorrow night.
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  Chicago State's even worse. Won a game.
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  That Southeast Missouri State and then after that, then we'll
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  know. We'll we'll get to know against
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  Old Miss. It's a good Ole Miss team and a
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  great coach. Chris Beard is.
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  Yeah, there's a really good coach.
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  For all his transgressions and questions and everything else
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  that goes along with Chris Beard.
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  Ole misses they're they're going to be willing to take some
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  chances on their coaches aren't. They no doubt.
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  The Lane Kiffin saga continues to March on.
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  You know, somebody mentioned this when when it comes to the
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  College Football Playoff rankings, in particular when it
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  comes to Old Miss that what what do they do if Kiffin's not
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  there? Because there's precedent set
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  that they, you know, and I don't remember what school, but I've
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  been Florida staying that lost that lost anyways, there's been
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  there's been punishment or a team has been, you know, ranked
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  lower because they it's not the quarterback they don't have it's
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  their head coach. I don't know if that'll come
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  into play like I where do you think he's going?
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  Do you think if it's going anywhere or is this all a, you
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  know, I'm just going to throw this out there and and make them
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  come back and renegotiate? Do you think he stays or you
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  think he goes to LSU? I think he's gone to LSU.
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  I don't know if it's LSU or Florida, but I think he's gone.
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  This has gone too long now for him to turn around and say no,
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  no, just kidding. I'm going to come back here.
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  It feels like he's out the door, but it's just a feeling.
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  I mean, nothing that I've read or anything that makes sense
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  definitively the reason behind it.
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  Here's the thing, though, for Kiffin, all right, you got, you
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  know, his dad's angle, being in Florida, in Tampa for so long,
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  where he kind of became most renowned, though you see in lots
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  of other places, too. I mean, Monty Kiffin was the
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  name when you're talking defensive coordinators.
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  There's no guarantee, though, that he's ever going to have an
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  opportunity like this, that there's going to be a chance
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  like this. Florida sired what some people
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  thought, a couple of home run coaches and it hasn't happened,
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  right? LSU Well, we just saw what
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  happened with Brian Cale. There are no guarantees and now
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  you're this close. Right in Oxford Ms. You're this
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  close to not just a playoff, but a chance to make a run.
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  This team could win a couple games.
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  I. Think so.
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  Right path. Something opens up, injuries
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  happen, lots of things can go. And to turn it down for what?
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  More money? A better chance is this a
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  better? I don't know.
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  I don't know either like you said.
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  Florida said they've hired two home run hires, so they thought
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  neither one of them worked out. Brian Kelly, that was a big
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  splash getting in from Notre Dame that didn't work out.
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  Obviously. We'll see.
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  We'll see where it goes. Let's do the College Football
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  Playoff ranking when you, I don't know if you watched it
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  live when you saw it, what was your biggest take away?
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  Biggest. Take away still is Miami.
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  They're moving up. But that far behind Notre Dame?
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  Too many schools in front of them.
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  Probably. Because if you're going to jump
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  them over Notre Dame, you have to move those other teams up in
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  between them. Alabama, Are they going to lose
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  to Auburn? Well.
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  Don't think so. I don't think so.
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  It's. Jordan hair, though weird things
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  happen there. We've certainly seen that in
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  the. Past.
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  Absolutely. B Wire, Utah.
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  Kick six rings a bell. One of those two probably going
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  to fall out if they lose the Tech in the championship game.
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  Now Utah might not get there and still be able to finish the year
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  at 10:00 and 2:00. You know, This is why I wish
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  that the Big 12 would have come up with somebody else to put on
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  the committee because this reeks.
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  It's Utah's AD, you know, just reeks where What's Oklahoma
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  State's Ed doing? I know he's got a coaching hire.
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  OK K State. I mean, find somebody else,
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  right? I don't.
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  I don't like the smell of that one.
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  What is it about Notre Dame? That they like.
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  What is it that you look at this team and say, yes, that's the
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  9th best team in the country? What can you point to besides
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  losses? You can't.
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  There isn't any. Well, yes you can.
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  The helmets. That's it, That's it.
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  It's the same thing with Alabama, who has lost to an
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  awful Florida State team. You know, apparently that
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  doesn't matter. Well, they are.
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  They're off to, but where are they?
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  Does the Sagarin matter to you at all because they're 31?
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  OK. So they're better than you
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  think. I mean, A5 and five was some bad
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  line. They got some awful losses.
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  They lost to. But they've also beaten four
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  teams in the top 25, all right? And that's more than anybody.
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  So wins more than Indiana, Ohio State and Oregon combined.
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  So wins matter. I guess, I mean, I don't know,
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  it depends what what team we're talking about.
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  And and that's. The and that's been your
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  argument forever. It drives me crazy.
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  It absolutely drives me nuts, because losses don't matter for
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  Alabama. Only wins matter.
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  Losses, good losses matter for Notre Dame.
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  If you go through and all these maturations of all this, I just
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  want to know what are we doing? Give me some data points, give
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  me some reality before the stupid show begins.
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  Tell me what we're looking for. And then you can freak out even
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  more and you can say, no, you got this wrong because it's all
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  opinion. That's all this is opinion
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  based, all right. And they can manipulate and they
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  do, and they change on the fly. And one thing that mattered the
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  week before doesn't matter one. Thing that mattered in his
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  teleconference following the unveil yesterday, change by the
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  time the teleconference ended yesterday, the way he answered,
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  what was that one? I don't remember what it was,
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  but I think was Nicole Auerbach asked a couple of questions.
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  Are we getting to a point where they're starting to be,
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  especially if we stay at 12, and I think that's more likely than
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  not that we're starting to wonder, does the group of five
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  really belong? They're going to be a three
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  touch. They they have to though, you
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  have to or you're going to run into legal issues.
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  You have to have that slot available for them.
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  This is the way that they were able to get through.
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  Why? Don't they have their own
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  tournament? Who wants to play in that?
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  What are you going to get for that?
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  What? Team well, I don't want to have
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  12 but I mean if you if the money's right and the television
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  is there and I got to think ESPN is is looking for 'cause I got
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  million networks for crying out loud.
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  Whoever represents the the group of five, they're going to play
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  the five seed, which is right now Texas Tech.
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  So they're going to be a three touchdown dog.
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  Yeah, I get it. You know, upsets happen, but.
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  I want access. I want access for the little
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  guy. I don't have.
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  Are you the majority? Probably not.
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  People like brands. People like Alabama's and Notre
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  Dame's of the world. They don't like Tulane and Boise
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  State. James Madison, yeah.
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  Yeah, there's still a path for Duke.
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  I hope it happens. Is there really help me?
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  So I went out for I took Jed out for his piss this morning.
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  All right. And you and Bam are going crazy
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  on my in our little texture. So what did I miss?
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  He just. Well, he asked something about.
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  Oh, well, he started and I love Bama.
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  You know I love Bama. Yeah, but he started with did
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  Alabama get screwed? Let's see where.
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  Should Where did he want them to be?
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  I had a Notre Dame. Let's see.
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  Well, I want to see. Did Bama get screwed?
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  That's exactly the terminology that he used.
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  Seems like they're setting them up to have to win the SEC
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  championship game. For what?
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  No, no, they they don't. This is this is Bama.
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  This is SEC fan Bama talking here.
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  They're not screwed by any means.
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  I told him if Mississippi State had this exact same resume,
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  maybe 16th even. With four teams over pass with a
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  win over Georgia, you really believe.
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  Oh, there is not a doubt in my mind with two.
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  Losses, yeah. But I think that the the four
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  wins over top 25 teams, if it was just two wins, yeah, I could
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  buy that. But they've got four wins,
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  including as good a win as anybody's got right.
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  I mean, and as bad as lost as anybody's has in the top.
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  OK. But it was week 1 and I don't
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  know if that matters in the Gen. Florida State.
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  They wanna play the games. If if here's another example,
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  we'll come up with excuses. Well, it was week one.
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  OK then don't playoffs. So why should why should Texas
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  play Ohio State week? No absolutely right, same thing
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  because that's hurting them. That's probably keeping them out
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  of the playoff at no doubt point light of Michigan playoff, which
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  is why I hate this system because we should be getting
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  these games and. We come up with the same crap as
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  just a stacking order. Again, a number of losses.
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  There's not any depth to thinking with these people.
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  It's just stacking up. Well, they have two losses and
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  right, they're going to go here. Look at your standings, three
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  teams at the top, always 0 losses.
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  Next up, your next four teams all with one loss.
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  Then you get into the two team mix and then it's Oklahoma,
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  Notre Dame, Alabama with two losses.
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  It's back to the same group. Think that we have gone through
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  a committee is supposed to solve this.
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  That's why you have a committee. Just go back to the BCS, go back
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  to the numbers. How does?
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  Miami get in, obviously they're going to have to win, get to the
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  ACC, right? I don't think so.
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  You don't think that they would have?
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  To. I don't think that's a
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  necessity, no. How do they how do they leapfrog
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  all those teams in front of them?
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  Well, BYU, Utah, one of them's going to lose 1.
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  Of them's going to lose, so there's.
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  One, you need another upset. You need Oklahoma to lose.
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  You need Alabama to lose. It's not a.
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  Alabama has Auburn left, and then whoever the hell says they
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  play Sanford, they normally play Sanford, yeah.
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  The other component with this that drives me crazy is why they
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  continue to put Miami in this bracket.
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  Here's what the bracket would look like.
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  No, it wouldn't. They're not the ACC champion and
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  there's not a. This would be go back to last
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  season, go back to last year in college basketball and remember
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  came down to the wire for Iowa and Nebraska just to get into
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  the Big 10 turn. And if you were putting together
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  something for basketball, the team's not even going to
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  qualify. And with it get it on.
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  This would be like putting a mid major in there because they're
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  the highest ranked mid major. They don't have a path to
• 17:26
  actually get in a large bid, but you're putting them in there
• 17:28
  week after week after week, even though they're not even going to
• 17:31
  qualify for the conference tournament.
• 17:32
  They're not going to make it. They're not going to make it
• 17:35
  unless carnage happens in the. So Miami right now is the
• 17:37
  highest ranked ACC team? So they put them in there, but
• 17:41
  they're not going to be the conference champion.
• 17:42
  It drives me absolutely Batty. So how do they play for their
• 17:47
  conference championship? How does Miami get to the
• 17:49
  conference championship? Can they?
• 17:50
  They can. All right, so right now, if you
• 17:53
  just calculate with the favorites over at our favorite
• 17:55
  site B ball.notnothing.net, Georgia Tech Virginia SMU
• 17:59
  finished seven and one. It'd be Virginia against Georgia
• 18:02
  Tech in the ACC Championship game.
• 18:05
  So we got to find some losses. For both Virginia and Georgia
• 18:08
  Tech. Well, let's just start here.
• 18:09
  Let's start with Georgia Tech, OK, because they played Georgia.
• 18:12
  That won't matter to get to the ACC.
• 18:14
  Let's say that Georgia Tech loses to PIT this week.
• 18:16
  All right, not. Crazy.
• 18:19
  That leaves Virginia and SMU, both 7 and one.
• 18:21
  Easy enough. They're both in, so we got to go
• 18:23
  a little bit further. Let's see something that's not
• 18:26
  crazy. Can Louisville beat SMU?
• 18:28
  Yes. Absolutely.
• 18:29
  All right, so we've only where's the game?
• 18:32
  I'm not sure, but so we just changed two things.
• 18:35
  Pit over Georgia Tech, Louisville over SMU this
• 18:39
  weekend. That leads to Virginia, the only
• 18:42
  seven in one team. Yeah, and they would play.
• 18:44
  And there is a five way tie at six and two involving SMU,
• 18:48
  Georgia Tech, Pitt, Miami and Duke.
• 18:50
  And Duke still alive. And the team that wins the
• 18:53
  tiebreaker is your Duke Blue Devils.
• 18:56
  So if Duke wins, beats Virginia. And they just played last week,
• 19:01
  last week last 'cause I took Duke and I got clobbered.
• 19:04
  That's it. That's all it takes.
• 19:06
  You take it one step further. And it's your favorite
• 19:08
  conference. I'm glad you have to pay
• 19:10
  attention to it. You take it one step further
• 19:12
  though, and Duke gets beat this week by UNC.
• 19:15
  Then Miami in this scenario finally would be a path.
• 19:20
  We're talking about 3 upsets that need to happen this week in
• 19:23
  order for that to happen. Well, talk to Matt Rudy on the
• 19:26
  other side. He's a Michigan State grad.
• 19:28
  He was in Madison Square Garden to watch that game last night.
• 19:30
  We'll do that, put a capper on the golf season with our buddy
• 19:33
  Matt. Rudy Macholtis is the voice of
• 19:35
  the Kansas City Chiefs. He'll join us at 12:45.
• 19:38
  Cappy from Chicago, And then I'm Matt Norlander from
• 19:41
  CBSSports.com, where he covers college basketball.
• 19:45
  Miller and Condon, it's a Wednesday.
• 19:47
  We're glad you're with us. We'll be right back on Des
• 19:49
  Moines Sports Station 106.3 KXO. I'm Marie Connon, welcome back.
• 20:01
  Coming up on 12:30 on a Wednesday.
• 20:04
  Mitch Holt is the voice of the Kansas City Chiefs still to come
• 20:06
  as this Michigan State's fights. What are the better fights?
• 20:09
  On is it you like? This.
• 20:10
  I like this one all right. I know our guest, Matt Rudy, who
• 20:14
  joins us for all of the majors, the Ryder Cup.
• 20:16
  He's our golf guys at Michigan State grad.
• 20:18
  As I mentioned, he was at Madison Square Garden last
• 20:20
  night, anxious to pick his brain on that.
• 20:22
  But we start with football. Good to talk to you, Matt.
• 20:25
  Rudy, I know that you don't want to.
• 20:28
  What started out so promising, right?
• 20:30
  I mean, there were three, you know, at one point and haven't
• 20:31
  won a game since. They've replaced their
• 20:33
  quarterback. Well, other than that, how was
• 20:37
  the play? What's gone wrong with this
• 20:38
  team? Matt, good to talk to you.
• 20:41
  You know, it's good to talk to you too.
• 20:43
  I think across the Big 10, when you see what Indiana is doing,
• 20:49
  that just pushes pressure out onto other coaches who have
• 20:54
  either it's a slower timeline to revitalize the team or or
• 20:58
  they're not doing as good a job at revitalizing A-Team.
• 21:01
  It just shows. I think the skill sets you need
• 21:04
  to be good at this to be to be a good coach now are different
• 21:08
  than the ones even five years ago.
• 21:10
  And I think you're seeing a lot of, you know, coaches like Nick
• 21:13
  Saban, for example, look at it and say, you know, I don't know
• 21:15
  that I like how this is going in terms of what I'm good at doing
• 21:19
  or what I like doing. And so we're seeing this shake
• 21:22
  out where coaches who can, you know, you can go recruit in the
• 21:26
  portal and you can, you can bring players in and you can
• 21:29
  build a cohesive unit quickly. That's just as big an advantage
• 21:33
  as tactical X's and O's and, you know, and, and recruiting 18
• 21:37
  year olds from high school. So I think it's, it gives a lot
• 21:40
  of hope, I think to any program that you don't have to, you
• 21:44
  know, it's not going to take you a decade to dig yourself out of
• 21:47
  a hole. So as bad as it is for Michigan
• 21:49
  State, I don't even know that the coach is fundamentally the
• 21:52
  issue. I think if you're going to spend
• 21:54
  some money and you have a good athletic director and you have a
• 21:56
  good plan, you could change things around by next year.
• 22:00
  So I mean, I think that that should give everybody hope.
• 22:02
  Whether you're an Iowa fan or Michigan State fan, doesn't
• 22:04
  matter. If you get those pieces in
• 22:06
  place, you could be good next year.
• 22:08
  In Child's looks so good against Iowa a year ago.
• 22:11
  Really. Did you saw him a season ago,
• 22:13
  very inconsistent, but thought maybe that'd be ironed out after
• 22:16
  a full season as the starter. Has not been the case.
• 22:18
  I know he's been banged up, he's got a foot injury he's dealing
• 22:20
  with right now, but is it just how bad the offensive line has
• 22:24
  been? I mean, is that the reason that
• 22:26
  Child certainly is not taking a step forward?
• 22:29
  Yeah, I think it's a it's the banged up offensive line.
• 22:32
  I think I think there's, and I'm not going to describe this just
• 22:37
  particularly to him, but I think players in general, you know,
• 22:41
  think back to when you were 20, for example, and when you hear
• 22:45
  some of the commentary, whether it's on campus or it's on social
• 22:47
  media, you know, these are these are players now who are being
• 22:50
  paid hundreds of thousands of dollars or millions of dollars.
• 22:54
  So they're getting the money and the attention and the pressure
• 22:58
  that comes with being paid millions of dollars in addition
• 23:01
  to the pressure that comes with being kind of the big man on
• 23:04
  campus. So I think that's a that's a
• 23:06
  piece and, and honestly, we've talked about this a lot when
• 23:09
  we've talked about golf through the years.
• 23:11
  I mean, there's players that can deal with that, you know, the
• 23:14
  dial getting turned up on pressure, you know, the
• 23:17
  attention that comes from those press conferences week in and
• 23:19
  week out on the PGA Tour or in any sport.
• 23:22
  Players deal with that differently.
• 23:24
  I think there's a physical component to it and talent and
• 23:26
  the skill to throw the ball and run and make choices and, you
• 23:29
  know, get it, get the ball or it needs to go.
• 23:32
  But then there's also the attention part of it.
• 23:34
  And when that changes and you're the all of a sudden you're the
• 23:36
  man. Some players don't deal with
• 23:38
  that as well as other players do.
• 23:42
  I want to go to last night you were at Madison Square Garden,
• 23:44
  you and your daughter for the Champions classic 4 blue bloods
• 23:47
  in the building Michigan State, Kentucky.
• 23:49
  Usually we see Izzos team peeking late in the year.
• 23:52
  They usually drop these games over the last over the last few
• 23:56
  years seeming early in the year when they you know, they play a
• 23:59
  a fellow blue blood. It doesn't go their way yet last
• 24:02
  night, I mean, they just pounded Kentucky, man, I can't tell you
• 24:06
  how impressed I was by watching your Spartans particularly.
• 24:10
  I mean, Kohler stood out. Fears was unbelievable, Kid off
• 24:14
  the bench, Tang was great, but Fears is the guy that really got
• 24:17
  my attention. Before we get into the game,
• 24:19
  just what's the atmosphere like for blue bloods in the Mecca of
• 24:23
  college hoops or of basketball, Madison Square Garden?
• 24:26
  What's it like to be in the building?
• 24:29
  Well, I mean it was a great atmosphere for us because we can
• 24:32
  stay played great and I've seen I think 5 Spartan games at the
• 24:35
  Garden ranging from this event to the Big 10 Championship.
• 24:39
  The first time I've seen him win.
• 24:40
  So that was pretty good. I like that.
• 24:43
  But I think what what what Izzo likes is when he has a team that
• 24:46
  he can yell at as as hard as he can and they don't and he
• 24:50
  doesn't lose them. You know that, You know, they
• 24:52
  respond to the tough coaching and they have a really good mix.
• 24:57
  They have good young players, they've got veterans and there's
• 25:00
  this great recruiting class that's coming in next year that
• 25:03
  I think gives a positive energy to the program in general.
• 25:07
  And and to your point, he's got he's got a point guard that
• 25:10
  really plays hard on both ends of the floor and and to have big
• 25:14
  players that can shoot, you know, Kohler as a is a good
• 25:16
  three-point shot And and and the Spartans have always been, you
• 25:20
  know, they've made their money, so to speak, on the glass.
• 25:23
  So, you know, they're a tough team to, to beat when they play
• 25:27
  that way and when they can make shots.
• 25:29
  The, the problem over the last couple of years is when the
• 25:31
  outside shooting, because when you didn't, when you can't do
• 25:33
  that, it just lets defenses do a lot of different things to make
• 25:36
  your life hard. So when, when they make those 3
• 25:39
  point shots like that, you know, they're a tough team to beat.
• 25:41
  And you know, Izzo, I think Izzo likes to lose some of those
• 25:44
  games around the season because it, it gives them a rally and
• 25:47
  cry and practice to say, you know, you guys aren't as good
• 25:49
  as, as you think you are and keeps them focused.
• 25:52
  So let's hope that that's not an issue this year.
• 25:55
  You know, Ford comes in from Sanford.
• 25:57
  I'm really intrigued with Cam Ward.
• 25:59
  Not that Cam Ward. This Cam Ward for Michigan
• 26:01
  State, he's a freshman. He looks like he's got a real
• 26:05
  chance at a lot of upside. No, he was a big kid from
• 26:07
  Maryland to get away from the Terps.
• 26:09
  They were offered a buttload of money to get him there.
• 26:11
  At Michigan State, where you're kind of looking down the line,
• 26:14
  is Cam Ward one of those guys, if they're going to take that
• 26:16
  next step and they're going to be, you know, playing in the
• 26:18
  Elite 8 play for a chance at a Final Four, is Ward going to be
• 26:21
  an important piece? Is he going to get the minutes
• 26:23
  necessary for that? Yeah, and I think when you hear
• 26:27
  Tom is a start talking about a player being, you know, having
• 26:30
  some of the same qualities as Draymond Green, that's one of
• 26:32
  the best compliments that a coach can give.
• 26:35
  And I think when he when he says something like that, I think
• 26:39
  what do you what he's combining is the it's the physical
• 26:42
  attributes with also the the competitiveness and the and the
• 26:45
  smarts that you need to play. I mean, I think Tom is those
• 26:49
  perfect player would be a player that maybe was a was AB plus
• 26:53
  athlete and that might be be generous when you're talking
• 26:55
  about Draymond Green, for example, but AB plus athlete,
• 26:58
  but an A+ thinker and competitor on the floor.
• 27:02
  And I think that's the early rap.
• 27:04
  You know, for Cam Ward is is that is that profile.
• 27:07
  And I think if you told time as he could have a team full of
• 27:09
  guys like that, that's his favorite kind of team to coach.
• 27:13
  And he's made a point of saying, you know, he likes to develop
• 27:16
  players, keep him in the program.
• 27:18
  He hasn't really leaned into the whole transfer portal saying,
• 27:21
  yeah, he's still recruiting at a high level.
• 27:24
  And you know, I take a particular kind of player to be
• 27:26
  willing to to take some abuse for a few years, so to speak.
• 27:30
  You know, Xavier Booker was a five star recruit and had all
• 27:33
  the skill in the world. And you just needed a place
• 27:36
  where the communication style was different.
• 27:38
  And, and I think when Nizzo can find those guys and you can, you
• 27:41
  can build that chemistry and have all these these players
• 27:44
  from the past come in every offseason and, and reinforce
• 27:48
  what the what the culture of the program is that that's really, I
• 27:51
  think that that's what makes him continue to love coaching and,
• 27:55
  and kind of go against the tide, like we were talking about in
• 27:58
  football. You know, there's some of these
• 28:00
  older coaches don't want to do this anymore because it's hard
• 28:03
  to maintain that. But the Spartans have been able
• 28:06
  to do that so far. And I think that's why when you
• 28:08
  when you see is though at 70 or 71 years old, still wanting to
• 28:12
  do it, because it's still fun for him to build that, you know,
• 28:15
  to build that connective tissue. Yeah, I don't think the the
• 28:18
  narrative that's out there that it's Purdue and it's Michigan
• 28:21
  and it's everybody else. What I saw last night certainly
• 28:23
  opened up by I so did car. My God, he can jump.
• 28:26
  He's unbelievable athleticism. All right.
• 28:29
  When you can, when you can get your, when you can get your head
• 28:32
  above the bat, above the rim, that's pretty good.
• 28:34
  That's getting up there. Was the story of the year in
• 28:37
  golf written the second week in April?
• 28:40
  I mean, was there anything that topped Rory's Masters in your
• 28:43
  mind this year, Matt? Well, I mean, I mean, I don't
• 28:48
  want to diminish within the career Grand Slam, but I think
• 28:51
  it was a big deal for Rory, you know, because he'd struggled so
• 28:55
  long to close that, close that door, you know, to achieve that.
• 29:00
  But, you know, I don't know that that ultimately to me resonated
• 29:05
  as much as seeing Gotti Scheffler win, you know, wider
• 29:09
  and a wider array of events and to keep doing what he's been
• 29:13
  doing over so many years. I mean, I think that was a big
• 29:16
  story. And I think seeing what the
• 29:18
  Europeans continue to do in the Ryder Cup, I don't know that
• 29:21
  that was a great, you know, it wasn't a great event from a
• 29:24
  story perspective. But to see how they're able to
• 29:27
  continue to put teams together no matter what seems to happen
• 29:30
  with live, none of that seems to matter to the cohesiveness of
• 29:33
  the European team. You know, again, I don't want to
• 29:36
  diminish what Rory did, but even he said himself that after he
• 29:40
  won that tournament, it kind of took his, took the wind out of
• 29:43
  his sails for the rest of the year.
• 29:45
  So I'm I'll, I guess I'll say there's a gold, silver and
• 29:48
  bronze. Those are the three stories and
• 29:51
  you can pick kind of what order you think they should be in.
• 29:54
  Matt, as you know, Tiger always at the forefront he was in, even
• 29:57
  as he doesn't play. You know what, it was
• 29:59
  interesting. I saw something that popped up
• 30:01
  on on an account I was looking at and he turns 50 next month.
• 30:06
  No, he doesn't. He's eligible for the Champions,
• 30:10
  which is just baffling to think about.
• 30:12
  But his return, I mean, is it the masters that's the
• 30:15
  targetator? Is even that unrealistic for
• 30:17
  Tiger? It's hard because I could tell
• 30:21
  you something. Then tomorrow you might announce
• 30:23
  that he had like a total knee replacement of them.
• 30:25
  Like he's the big, he's the big mystery surgery guy.
• 30:28
  So, you know, I think as always, the issue for him is when he
• 30:33
  goes through some of these surgeries, what do you have to
• 30:35
  do to get yourself to be back? Not just, you know, like they
• 30:38
  say you're in shape, but then there's football shape.
• 30:40
  I think there's in shape and then there's golf, golf shape,
• 30:43
  too. And I just don't know how much
• 30:46
  golf he can ever play now to get back into that, you know, to
• 30:51
  beat the players who are now in their physical prime to when you
• 30:55
  see what Scotty Scheffler does physically or what Rory McIlroy
• 30:58
  does physically, Tiger can't do those things anymore.
• 31:01
  And, you know, it's not, that's not to say that a place that he
• 31:04
  knows, like Augusta National, he can't conjure something up, but
• 31:09
  can he practice enough and play enough to be ready for that?
• 31:13
  the Champions Tour, you know, the PGA Tour Champions is
• 31:15
  actually a probably a perfect solution to that because you can
• 31:20
  ride if he wants to ride. The golf courses are shorter.
• 31:23
  You know, you don't, you don't have to have as much fastball as
• 31:25
  you used to have. And you know, the, I mean, I
• 31:29
  don't think he should make the mistake of thinking the level of
• 31:32
  competition might be easier because there's a lot of really
• 31:34
  good players and a lot of really fit players on that tour.
• 31:38
  So I think to see, you know, if the if the goal is to see Tiger
• 31:42
  and to see his name on leaderboards, you know, the
• 31:44
  senior U.S. Open, you know, something like
• 31:46
  that, that's a better, that's probably a better bet than
• 31:49
  something on the regular tour. Principal charity Class A couple
• 31:52
  of miles from where Trent and I are doing our show right now.
• 31:54
  That'd be a perfect spot for him to return in 2026.
• 31:58
  Hey brother, Thanks Matt Rudy for what you do for us.
• 32:00
  All golf season, all the majors, etcetera.
• 32:03
  I was grateful to pick your brain on and last night and of
• 32:06
  course, Sparty in Iowa coming up this week, Happy holidays,
• 32:09
  Thanksgiving, we won't talk to you until 26.
• 32:12
  Thank you, Matt Rudy for what you do for us.
• 32:14
  Really appreciate it. Anytime I love talking to you.
• 32:17
  Good stuff, buddy. Thank you, Matt Rudy.
• 32:18
  As we check in on golf, Michigan State basketball and football,
• 32:23
  Mitch Holtis is the voice of the Chiefs.
• 32:25
  He joins us next Miller in Condon on the Iowa Sports Radio
• 32:28
  Network. Welcome back the Iowa Sports
• 32:34
  Radio Network with you until 2. David Kaplan kicks off our
• 32:38
  number 2. Matt and Orland are on college
• 32:41
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• 32:43
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• 32:47
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• 32:50
  Wednesday during the regular season, every day, Monday
• 32:54
  through Friday during August for the most, most part with the
• 32:57
  Chiefs training camp report, he is back.
• 32:59
  It's the Colts. It's the Chiefs this week and
• 33:02
  Mitch joins us. Mitch Tran, Ken, thanks for
• 33:03
  coming on. How are you, Mitch Holtis?
• 33:06
  Good, I hand you my sword, Ken. Yes, thank.
• 33:09
  You great job by your Bronco team.
• 33:12
  Good team game that we pretty much laid out last Wednesday.
• 33:16
  It followed right down the line and so plays made by the Broncos
• 33:21
  at the all throughout the game. The chiefs had a shot at six or
• 33:24
  seven critical points of that game and and the chiefs did not
• 33:28
  get it done. So now we're sitting at 5:00 and
• 33:30
  5:00 and begin a series of seven one game season.
• 33:32
  Yeah, I agree with you. It's obviously not going to be
• 33:35
  easy. The Colts coming up this week.
• 33:37
  I want to ask your opinion on one.
• 33:38
  Bronco I think is really starting to is lights going on.
• 33:42
  That's Pat Bryant. The receiver from Illinois was
• 33:44
  their third round pick. I think he led the Broncos this
• 33:48
  past week in in receptions at memory serves as either him or
• 33:51
  Franklin. But Pat Bryant, I'm I'm guessing
• 33:54
  you didn't know much about him going into it.
• 33:56
  What did you think of him? Because I really think he's
• 33:58
  starting to to get a lot better and be a bigger factor in this
• 34:01
  offense. Well, and he fits the scheme
• 34:04
  very well. That's a good job by patent to
• 34:07
  to draft him to that scheme. And he's also a good compliment
• 34:12
  to Cortland Sutton or to Troy Franklin and, you know, big
• 34:16
  physical receiver, good tough hands.
• 34:19
  I just didn't remember him. Like he just didn't make this
• 34:21
  great impression on me at Illinois or come out of the
• 34:26
  draft like, hey, good guy, but you know he's going to be a
• 34:28
  really good receiver because sometimes it's the scheme that
• 34:32
  you go into, and I think he's perfect for that scheme.
• 34:35
  You look back at the game and we're in the football, OK?
• 34:39
  I heard Andy Reid and one of his press conferences earlier this
• 34:42
  week mentioned they had a whole lot of RP OS and the Broncos
• 34:45
  were giving more of the pass option out of those RP OS and
• 34:48
  that's why they went the direction that they did.
• 34:51
  Do you think that this run game, they'll get Pacheco back maybe
• 34:54
  as soon as this week that there is another level or is it just
• 34:58
  kind of is what it is right now? It's OK, but it's never going to
• 35:01
  be great this year. You know, it has to be better
• 35:04
  and I know it's a situational running Trent, two big plays in
• 35:09
  that game. The Chiefs have had nine
• 35:12
  opportunities in 10 games to have essentially the double dip.
• 35:16
  I got into this last week with you a little bit.
• 35:18
  I think it was my minute with Mitch thesis that you can see,
• 35:22
  you know, they're on Fox in Des Moines.
• 35:24
  But the point here is the Chiefs had a third down and one at the
• 35:29
  chance for a double dip to score at the end of the second and
• 35:32
  going at the beginning of the third that didn't make it.
• 35:35
  And then the third and two they get a stop.
• 35:38
  It's 1916 Chiefs and they have the ball in their hands at three
• 35:42
  O 4 to go and they can't convert. 1/3 down and one at
• 35:47
  their own 19. That's the stuff that's got to
• 35:50
  start happening. Especially the Colts are really
• 35:53
  good. They're way better than people
• 35:54
  think. But I would tell you more than
• 35:57
  anything else, it's situational running.
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  That has to improve a great deal here because when they've had a
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  chance to double dip and there are 4 losses, they have had no
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  touchdowns, 1 field goal, 4/3 and outs, an interception.
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  When they're 4 losses and they're five wins, they've had 7
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  touchdowns. So that's what they have, you
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  know, at the beginning end of the second start of the third.
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  Your thoughts on the Colts overall, Obviously Jonathan
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  Taylor having an all pro type of year.
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  Daniel Jones is in the hunt for comeback player of the year.
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  We know him that the rookie Tyler Warren looks as though
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  they Colts got one there. Your thoughts on on this Colts
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  team and what's the Chiefs will Chiefs will face this weekend?
• 36:37
  Pull out your Papa John's bingo card at the beginning of the
• 36:40
  season. See, if you had oh, the Colts
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  will lead the NFL in total offense, yards per game and that
• 36:46
  Daniel Jones would be third in passing yardage 10 to 11 weeks
• 36:51
  into the season. Go ahead and mark your spot
• 36:53
  there if you've got it. Oh, you do go like you guys
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  don't have it, nor do I. This Jonathan Taylor's
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  brilliance overshadows other things on this team.
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  And I'll throw in Michael Pittman junior, I'll throw in
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  Alec Pierce. But honestly, Tyler Warren has
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  been the difference maker on this team.
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  The rookie tight end of Notre Dame who has the exact number of
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  catches is Travis Kelce. So this Colts team is a honest
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  to goodness AFC challenger. This isn't some feel good story
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  where they're winning a bunch of close games and blocking field
• 37:25
  goals and punts to win. This is a legitimate offense and
• 37:29
  their defense is opportunistic and taking the ball away.
• 37:32
  The Colts are legitimate contender in the AFC.
• 37:36
  Travis Kelsey was something before he became Taylor Swift's
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  boyfriend and now he's got the Chiefs record for career
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  touchdowns. You know, he's gone to a
• 37:45
  different stratosphere, people that know him across all walks
• 37:48
  of life. But take us through, you know,
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  this decade plus now of Travis Kelsey.
• 37:52
  And even at this point in advanced stage and tight ends
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  that take up outing, he looked like he hit the fountain of you.
• 37:58
  Looks really good. Just an overview of Kelsey.
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  Well, let's catch and touchdown to give the Chiefs the lead that
• 38:04
  I mentioned earlier and they got the ball and had a chance to
• 38:07
  wrap it up was a was a testimony to that.
• 38:12
  He's at 12 / 12,000 snaps. Here's what makes Travis Kelsey
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  set apart from all others including Gronk.
• 38:20
  Even T Guns, who I love is the fact that he has been challenged
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  with running all 7, every route on the route tree in this
• 38:29
  offense, he has to run every route on the route tree.
• 38:31
  He has to Wham block. He has to do everything,
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  absolutely everything. A Dalton Kincaid will line up in
• 38:38
  the slot and do certain things. That's why Tyler Warren, Oregon,
• 38:43
  a Brock Bowers comes to mind. But even then, they're not asked
• 38:46
  to do the blocking in their schemes that Travis has been
• 38:50
  asked to do now for since 2014. He's incredible.
• 38:56
  And at 36 years old, when you look at the four top tight ends
• 38:59
  in the league, too, that I just mentioned, he's right there with
• 39:02
  those guys. But they're like 24, five years
• 39:04
  old. Kelsey's 36.
• 39:06
  He, he has no equal. I'll argue all that in the
• 39:08
  Supreme Court of Iowa about it. No, you won't.
• 39:11
  And I, I rooted for Shannon Sharpe and I thought he was
• 39:13
  terrific. But Kelsey's, Kelsey's on any
• 39:16
  single tight end list. And I'm with you and I'd stand
• 39:18
  right beside you, make those arguments and also.
• 39:20
  He has more receiving guards. You look at it playoff wise,
• 39:23
  I'll make this quick. He's he's only Jerry Rice has
• 39:26
  more playoff productivity than of any past catcher than Travis
• 39:29
  Kelly. It's wild.
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  Good stuff. Mitch Holtis.
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  We'll talk to you a week from today.
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  Thanks for what you do for us, Mitch.
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