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- 0:47Thank you. Now here are the hosts of the
- 0:51United We Scan podcast. Welcome back everybody, episode
- 0:5595 got some updates, some info in the usual banter.
- 1:00It should be an interesting time tonight.
- 1:03James, how was your week? Oh, don't get me started.
- 1:08Oh, my goodness. Being a swing state here in
- 1:11Michigan, you're familiar with it too.
- 1:13Kristen Monday DPS was late Oh Bill, you're retired already.
- 1:20You don't deal with it anymore. I'm.
- 1:22Still in a I'm still in a swing state.
- 1:25You. Know you know from past
- 1:28experience, but DPS was way late on Monday and I ended up not
- 1:33getting done until almost 8 PM 7:45 the first day and then
- 1:38Tuesday didn't get done until 6:30 because DPS was late again.
- 1:45Actually got an hour of wait time on that one.
- 1:48Finally Wednesday it showed up on time and Thursday and Friday
- 1:53it showed up on time, but I still didn't make evaluation any
- 1:55of those days. Of course, I'm still 2 hours
- 1:58under the evaluation my route should actually be at.
- 2:01But thank you Rex, since packages seem to be the biggest
- 2:05contributor to route increases compared to anything else,
- 2:09especially coverage factor. Pretty bad week overall.
- 2:14Tons and tons and tons of political mail and tons of it in
- 2:19my own mailbox going right into the burn pit.
- 2:22But when I get into that, then the weekend came and Saturday
- 2:28was a lazy day after all that work and took time to go out, do
- 2:33some shopping and stuff like that.
- 2:35And then did a lot of yard work today to get ready for Halloween
- 2:40and trick or treaters and stuff like that.
- 2:42Make sure that all the leaves and stuff are picked up since
- 2:45they're already falling off the trees here.
- 2:48But yeah, overall it was a terrible, terrible week with
- 2:53political mail and but I got through it all.
- 2:57How was your retired week, Bill? Mine was wonderful.
- 3:01I, I got to throw away 93% of my mail because it was all
- 3:06political. And when I tell you I had four
- 3:11pieces of first class mail all week, that's the God's honest
- 3:15truth. Friday morning was interesting.
- 3:18I had a, my Eagles lawn chair and I sat on the grass across
- 3:24the street from my FD and Z with a sign saying they LC, you
- 3:30deserve more vote no. And I sat there for two hours
- 3:35while the city carriers were, you know, leaving the facility.
- 3:38All of them were beeping the horns and give me the thumbs up
- 3:40and all that. Twice, twice, little white Ford
- 3:46Focus government vehicles drove up to my spot slowly.
- 3:50One guy actually stopped to look at me, and I waved that and
- 3:53said, how you doing? And then he drove off because,
- 3:56you know, not on your property, you can't say anything.
- 3:59But then, you know, within about 15 minutes, my phone just
- 4:03started ringing off In the city carrier right now, and they're
- 4:05going, no, you're such an asshole.
- 4:07We love you. And I said, you know, hey, guys,
- 4:12you know, we're going to get the same shit contract.
- 4:14So, you know, we're in the same boat.
- 4:16And the Titanic's going down for the second time.
- 4:20Other than that, you know, I had Hudson, my grandson, Friday
- 4:24night, Saturday day, we went down and saw Noah and took food
- 4:28down to them. So you can eat for three or four
- 4:30days. It yeah.
- 4:32It it's great because, you know, even when I was working, we did
- 4:36that. My son Gregory is AEMT for
- 4:40Kaiser Permanente in Camden, NJ and he is in the middle of a
- 4:45really bad piece of the the state of New Jersey in Camden.
- 4:50And he's going to school to be a doctor.
- 4:51He just had his MCAC. He's waiting for those results
- 4:56and his wife is a dispatcher for the University of Delaware.
- 5:00So, you know, kids go to the daycare and and that's cooling
- 5:03and all, but the kid is so sharp and so cute and just, you know,
- 5:07and, and, and adamant. I love it.
- 5:10No Poppy. No Poppy has like, you know, he
- 5:12puts his little hands on his hips.
- 5:15No Poppy. And it's just like, how do you
- 5:17get mad at that? Then you go over and smack his
- 5:20ass, you know, but it it was a good week.
- 5:24I've been fielding calls all week like you guys been
- 5:27experiencing the with the political mail and our office.
- 5:32They had a problem with the Amazon on Sunday.
- 5:35Everybody seems to have Internet problems recently.
- 5:39Monday we had 11 carriers out, eight O clock because of the
- 5:44the, the amount of parcels that came in, they had to make second
- 5:48trips. Second trips are done after you
- 5:51take your mail and the first loadout, not before you start
- 5:55your day in the case at home anyway.
- 6:00Beautiful weather. It's dry though.
- 6:02We need rain, but the the weather's turning into fall and
- 6:06it's just beautiful with the colors we have out here.
- 6:09How about you Chris? Now is your week.
- 6:11My week, Well Monday sucked. It was an 11 and 1/2 hour day
- 6:17from hell and other than that the rest of the week wasn't too
- 6:21bad. I was done usually between 4:00
- 6:23and 5:00 and Friday I got done at 3:30 and and went to a
- 6:30concert. Took my daughter down to the
- 6:32legendary machine shop for her first time now that she's 18.
- 6:35So we went and did that and had a good time and then came home.
- 6:39Yesterday was just a blase day for me, even though Ruby and the
- 6:44boy, my boyfriend, decided they wanted to have a party but oh,
- 6:49it was only two of Ruby's friends that came over so I just
- 6:52kind of chilled on my own and went to bed at a decent time
- 6:55last night. Today I started my last
- 6:57Halloween decoration. Easy to get put out before
- 7:00Thursday so I got to get some more black spray paint for that.
- 7:04Other than that, my week wasn't horrible horrible.
- 7:07Just had days where I wanted to mumble and grumble a bit, but
- 7:10yeah. Seem seem to be a lot of that
- 7:13you know this week. Oh, I think we're going to get
- 7:16it all this next week, too. Oh God, yeah, I, I so not miss
- 7:22that yet. I, I, I had a screenshot sent to
- 7:25me from one of our carriers. They had a 14 inch high stack
- 7:30political mail on their case when they came in in the
- 7:32morning. And of course, of course, none
- 7:35of it covered the entire route, but the 14 inches actually went
- 7:39around the route twice. They've got a little over 650
- 7:43boxes. Yep, and.
- 7:47That's included in your 19%, right, James?
- 7:50Well you supposedly get credit when they actually register it
- 7:55as being a paid postage in the system supposedly.
- 8:00But you don't get the coverage factor that goes along with it.
- 8:03That's only counted with the DPS.
- 8:06It's not counted with any flats or any raw mail as.
- 8:10And you and. There's.
- 8:12And there's no proof that the bread crumbs pick it up for it
- 8:16either. Exactly.
- 8:18So you're basically delivering me for free?
- 8:20I I do do appreciate the fact that, you know, some people were
- 8:25as about obnoxious enough as the individual engaging Kristen and
- 8:30we were told we had to deliver the political mail even if it
- 8:34was on hold. We have not got that directive,
- 8:37but I have heard of where that's come down in a few places and
- 8:41I'm sorry they're on. Hold.
- 8:44I mean, I fell off the toilet seat on that one.
- 8:47I mean you are delivering it to the spot where you hold their
- 8:51mail. Yep, that is where you are
- 8:53supposed to deliver it. That is where the customer has
- 8:57requested their mail be delivered for the time frame
- 8:59they have that hold. You just can't make this shit
- 9:02up. You can't.
- 9:03Nope exactly. They will get it when they
- 9:05resume or when they pick it up at the office.
- 9:08Oh we were. We were now directed that we
- 9:11have to count our three M mail that we bring back from our DPS.
- 9:14You have to count it. Yep, we have to count the miss
- 9:17sent, the miss sort and the miss sequenced that we bring back.
- 9:21With us, at least a time into shift duties and you get
- 9:25straight time for it. Right.
- 9:27I'll sit there and count it all damn day.
- 9:30Same way they want each piece of political mail indoors.
- 9:33I'll do that all day long. And she let us, she let she let
- 9:37the office take a vote on this, on whether we would count it and
- 9:42write the numbers down on the sheet ourselves or we'd wait for
- 9:44management to come around and count it.
- 9:46Well, Neil's to say we won the vote on, we count it and we put
- 9:50the count sheet right on our clipboard underneath our 4240
- 9:55and it all in at the same time, no questions asked.
- 9:59I would have. I would have gone with the oh,
- 10:00I'll wait right at my case for management to come around and
- 10:03count it on into shift duties. Not when I gotta get the hell
- 10:06out of the office Friday by 3:30.
- 10:09Thank you. She was putting herself ahead of
- 10:12herself. Yeah, I'm sorry guys.
- 10:16And she brought it down to show me.
- 10:20Speaking of. Weird management directives.
- 10:25Some offices are being told they now have to stop and check every
- 10:30mailbox every day until the election.
- 10:36And if you so the actual directive it says mounted
- 10:39routes. Make sure you know to check with
- 10:42the flag. With the flag is up.
- 10:44Yes. That's what the actual directive
- 10:46says, but they're twisting it all around to check every box
- 10:49every day regardless, even those that are inactive.
- 10:52I had one carrier in an office South of me saying well a lot of
- 10:56my inactive ones that are just dead boxes are zip tied shut.
- 10:59She goes well, then you have to untie them and check the box.
- 11:03So I had a carrier actually say something really smart about
- 11:07this. You want me to stop at every
- 11:09box, right? Good.
- 11:12Do I get AWSS credit because I am stopping at every box?
- 11:17Can I put it in as AWSS since you're making me stop at each
- 11:21box? Because that's 100% coverage.
- 11:24If you're stopping at every single box, you should get a
- 11:26credit for it. So I think that's something that
- 11:29they should ask. Now, I am not saying that this
- 11:31is official thing to do or anything like that, but that is
- 11:34something that somebody has said that hey, I want credit for
- 11:37stopping at every single box. So I'm going to get the credit
- 11:40through the Rex input scan because I'm not getting credit
- 11:43through the DPS for the coverage factor and I'm definitely not
- 11:47getting paid for it any which way that management wants wants
- 11:50to pay for it. So I want the credit somehow.
- 11:54And if I have to undo the zip tied shut mailboxes, well I'm
- 12:00going to be timing every single one for 8127 time.
- 12:03Exactly the time it takes to take the zip tie off, check the
- 12:07box and put a zip tie back. Yep.
- 12:11Yeah. So let me address.
- 12:14Let me address Bart here about having his tray or tub to this
- 12:17case. We we've had that several times
- 12:20happen every time we change math through than our underwear in
- 12:25regards to having equipment at our case.
- 12:27And first time that we, we did this, it was a unilateral
- 12:32grievance, class action grievance in which we were
- 12:35allowed to. Now given the, the micromanaging
- 12:40that we are under nowadays, they have people that hide mail
- 12:44under, you know, in the empty tub, none in the empty trades.
- 12:48They don't want them there at all.
- 12:50So we get and, and when many mail surveys start, we get time
- 12:56walk to the area where they have trades and tubs.
- 13:00And if that area isn't fully stocked with empty equipment, we
- 13:04then put down 8127 time to roam the office to find the
- 13:08appropriate amount of equipment we need for our route.
- 13:11Mild and 1:00. They tried that in our office
- 13:15and quickly found out that we were getting paid way too much
- 13:19of that 8127 time to go get that, get equipment and said OK,
- 13:23you guys can go put it back underneath there and we'll just
- 13:25check to see if there's hidden mail.
- 13:27Instead of doing a report about getting off your damn asses and
- 13:31checking the damn cases like you're supposed to for sleepers,
- 13:34you know, for mail that's been left behind without
- 13:37authorization. Yeah, they're now, they're now
- 13:40sending all our album back to the plant every day now they're
- 13:46actually taking our album, sending it back to the plant.
- 13:48And guess what? That album is coming back in our
- 13:50DPS. So our forwards, so our forwards
- 13:56or our markups, everything's coming back.
- 13:59It's like the plant is literally taking everything that comes
- 14:02into it, throwing it in the DPS machine and calling it good.
- 14:05I mean, I mean, I'm perfectly happy getting the extra DPS
- 14:10credit and the end of shift time to to deal with all of it.
- 14:14But at the same time, that is a waste.
- 14:19That is also a failure for the customer that we're working for,
- 14:24especially forwards and markup mail.
- 14:28You know, those are failures. Management's failing again.
- 14:32What's new, right? But they're good at it.
- 14:34Yeah. I had a medical magazine from
- 14:38one of my customers going forward and I wrote it in pan.
- 14:41I wrote forward, came back to me.
- 14:43I put it back in the circulation again to be forward, but I put
- 14:46my little check marker on the back of it came back again.
- 14:49So this time I wrote it with a black sharpie, came back again.
- 14:52It came back three times. I got a magic marker, a Big
- 14:56Magic marker and wrote forward and three inch letters on there.
- 15:01It came back to me. I took it to the supervisor and
- 15:03explained why is this coming back to me?
- 15:05I don't know the plant's doing it.
- 15:07Why don't you know why the plant's doing this?
- 15:09Well, we get we have no control over the plant.
- 15:11I don't give a fuck. It says excuse me.
- 15:13I said I don't give a fuck. I'm not paid to handle this day
- 15:17in and day out. I only get this raw mail count
- 15:20credit credit during the mini mail survey.
- 15:23I've handled this and I turned it over in times.
- 15:27It said, now you either make it disappear or I'll make it
- 15:30disappear, but I'm not handling this again.
- 15:32They took it, they put it in it. It came back the next day,
- 15:35accidentally slipped in the some place that I won't mention and I
- 15:40never saw it again. I mean, I, I feel bad for the
- 15:42customer, but you know, do you really want me going off on the
- 15:47floor because you can't do your job yet?
- 15:52We're expected to do it 100% every day.
- 15:56And when we try to do our job, you don't support us.
- 15:59I'm sick and tired of, you know, of, of the people saying, well,
- 16:02we have no control over the plant.
- 16:04Well, get, get 5 or 6 nice big beefy guys go down there,
- 16:08straighten them out. Somebody's asked because, you
- 16:11know, we're tired of it. Well then and you get some of
- 16:15the offices there in in my district, but all our mail comes
- 16:20out of the other district. Or how about this?
- 16:23How about you get your marked up letters A-Z, no mail receptacle,
- 16:29you know, address the unknown and you get it back in your
- 16:31clerk mail. Your own clerks are sorting it
- 16:35and putting it in clerk mail. Because they don't.
- 16:38They don't look at, they don't look at that.
- 16:40In fact, in my my office, the clerk literally only looks at
- 16:44the street name, doesn't look at the numbers, doesn't look at
- 16:47anything else, just looks at the street name and throws it into a
- 16:49slot. I, I just, you know, and, and I
- 16:52took that to a supervisor. I said, now here's something you
- 16:55can deal with. Well, I'll talk to the clerk
- 16:57supervisor. Who is it?
- 16:58This guy over there? I went over to talk to the clerk
- 17:00supervisor. Well, I don't know who did it.
- 17:03It happens every day. Doesn't matter who's working.
- 17:05It happens every freaking day. Folks to talk to all of them.
- 17:09How about that? Yep.
- 17:10And then sign an 1810 training form saying that they were
- 17:15instructed not to put this back into the clerk mail.
- 17:18No, no, no, two days later it'll come in your DPS.
- 17:22And and they wonder why, you know, the work atmosphere is
- 17:26intolerable. Well, because people at the
- 17:29bottom of the ladder expect to do their jobs 100% of the time.
- 17:33Nobody else is. Speaking of not caring, Renfro,
- 17:41Renfro is going around touting the City Carrier contract as the
- 17:47greatest thing since sliced bread in the rap sessions.
- 17:50How out of touch do you have to be that you have to delete all
- 17:55your social media accounts because you can't stand all the
- 18:00people calling you out for the mistake that you made in one of
- 18:04the worst negotiated contracts ever to come out through the
- 18:08Postal Service since the 1970s? It only took you 20 months to do
- 18:13it. Yeah, you spent 20 months in an
- 18:17in negotiation supposedly, and this is the best you can come
- 18:21out with. Our city brothers and sisters
- 18:24deserve way better and we deserve way better.
- 18:28But our our leadership is waiting on the City side to
- 18:32ratify theirs first. And because they're not going to
- 18:38ratify it, although they have stack the deck in their ballot
- 18:43counting already with a retiree out of Royal Oak, MI they're
- 18:49talking about, it's a possibility this may go as a
- 18:51yes, even though there are more no votes supposedly, at least on
- 18:55the on the social media side of this.
- 18:59But the fact remains, this contract is a precursor.
- 19:06If this contract is ratified, all the other crafts are going
- 19:11to get the same thing. All the other crafts are going
- 19:15to be low balled with the city carrier contract that this
- 19:21person negotiated. And they really didn't work hard
- 19:26at it because there are multiple posts out there, as just was
- 19:30posted in our chat here, showing that everything on there is
- 19:36almost identical to the last contract they negotiated.
- 19:41So he really didn't have to do any work and make this, but he
- 19:44had to wait 20 months to give us this for the city craft.
- 19:49Seriously. But we are at a precipice here.
- 19:54People are waiting to see what will happen.
- 19:56And if it doesn't go the way it is, I'm afraid that the people
- 20:00that can leave will leave. And the people that can't leave
- 20:06will be so overworked they'll either cut corners and risk
- 20:10their own safety causing problems, or they'll get so
- 20:14overwhelmed that they'll quit too.
- 20:16And then there will be nobody left to deliver but management.
- 20:20And let's not. Forget and.
- 20:22Let's not forget about the mass exodus of those that pull those
- 20:27that pull their dues. Yeah, they're already pulling
- 20:30dues on the City side, you know, And I'm telling people don't
- 20:35pull your dues because this right here is why you don't.
- 20:40If the people who think and don't like this kind of a
- 20:43contract voted no on this contract, people actually
- 20:48participated and voted on this contract and said no in
- 20:51overwhelming numbers, it would send a message not only to the
- 20:55union leadership but also postal management that we won't accept
- 20:59their shenanigans anymore. We need to stand up.
- 21:03We need to come together. Those of you who are not dues
- 21:07paying members right now and see this contract from the city
- 21:09carriers need just get in need to start getting into this union
- 21:14so you can use your voice and your vote.
- 21:18When our contract is tentatively agreed upon, the time for
- 21:23sitting back and not doing anything is over.
- 21:26For the crafts. We sat back long enough.
- 21:29We took hit after hit after hit, not only on arbitration to the
- 21:34two tier pay system, but since the 70s, since we had that one
- 21:40great moment where we got properly respected for one
- 21:46moment from management. Since then, management has been
- 21:50clawing back at their ability to take and take and take from each
- 21:57craft, pitting US against each other, pitting city against
- 22:01rural, rural against clerk, clerk against mail handler.
- 22:05Now it's time for everybody, no matter which craft you're in, to
- 22:11come together as one unit of workers and tell management it's
- 22:18time to stuff it. These losses that they're
- 22:20posting, 80% of it is in managerial pay, 10% of it is in
- 22:26grievance pay. The last 10% is in paychecks to
- 22:30carriers. And let's not forget about the
- 22:32frivolous spending of the SNDCS and all the extra vehicles too.
- 22:38A gentleman did a post in regards to how much the SD and
- 22:43CS are affecting personnel count from mail handlers, clerks and
- 22:48everything else, trying to to come up with a balanced figure
- 22:53in regards to the joy's calculations.
- 22:56And the joy's never, you know, explained any of this as this
- 23:00gentleman did. He just always said, you know
- 23:02the cost savings as far as the trucks are concerned and
- 23:05everything else. Well, you know we got a problem
- 23:08with that because right now in my area we have 3 or 4
- 23:13supervisors who are constantly taking late mail up to the FB
- 23:18and CS to deliver it. What are you going to do when
- 23:20the post office, you know, that no longer has carriers and still
- 23:24servicing boxes and customers at the window as an express mail?
- 23:28Are you going to just keep turning over the money back to
- 23:31the sender because the express mail didn't get there on time?
- 23:34Are you going to change those standards of service again the
- 23:37same way you've changed the standards on the certified
- 23:40letters? I I don't understand where he
- 23:44thinks he's saving the a shit load of money.
- 23:47Here's here's an idea. How about stop giving away free
- 23:50boxes to people you know, 10 and 20 at a time while you're
- 23:54charging 5 to $7.00 for the same boxes in the lobby.
- 23:58How about charging people $10 to forward their mail about
- 24:02charging them $5 to hold, you know, hold the mail.
- 24:05I mean, there's plenty of areas where you can, you can generate
- 24:09income. One of the areas is get rid of
- 24:12your piss poor management because you're, you're paying
- 24:15these people in the six figures and they ain't worth I got to
- 24:18bite my tongue. I got to bite my tongue, bite my
- 24:21tongue like they're not worth a snot off the end of your nose.
- 24:25And that's not what I was going to say.
- 24:27But you know, I think the fact of the matter is, you know,
- 24:31they're not trained. They, they have no contract
- 24:34knowledge. They're in fear of their jobs
- 24:36from their postmasters. The postmasters in fear from the
- 24:38job from the DM. The DM is in fear for the job
- 24:41from the rooms. I mean, you know, this is just,
- 24:45it's a, a state of fear for doing your jobs.
- 24:50It's really easy, folks. It is the mail and let us get
- 24:53out on the route. OK, but babysitting us, it's the
- 24:57mail. Get the parcel sorted, you know,
- 24:59oh, the scanners are down. The Internet's down.
- 25:01We had Eddie Torrance and used to throw parcels for 100 plus
- 25:05routes in Westchester memory. And yet now you have these
- 25:10parcel sorting machines. You have, you know, the bullpen
- 25:13area where they're using the scanners that resort them.
- 25:17You still can't get it right. Agreed.
- 25:20Technology is making this job a little bit easier from some
- 25:23aspects. The stupidity of operating it is
- 25:28the downfall. Yeah.
- 25:29Clerks. They're they're clerks don't
- 25:31learn a scheme anymore. They rely on the freaking
- 25:34scanner to tell them what route it goes to.
- 25:36Then they're over there sorting freaking raw mail and they can't
- 25:39get it right 3/4 of the time because they're not forced to
- 25:42learn a scheme anymore. I'm, I'm going to say this, we
- 25:46have an RCA that does some clerk work because we actually need
- 25:50two more clerks in my office. So he does clerk work on top of
- 25:54running routes on that and he literally doesn't look at the
- 25:58scanner. He looks at the packages and
- 25:59throws them to the route because he's done every route in that
- 26:01office. He is much faster than any of
- 26:04the clerks at doing it And and more accurate too.
- 26:09And you know, you're talking about management and the issues
- 26:14going on there. At this point in time, I'm going
- 26:19to say that from district on up, it's no longer incompetence.
- 26:25This is pure and simple maliciousness.
- 26:29It is intentional. It is by far on purpose that
- 26:35they are doing these things because the stuff that keeps
- 26:38coming across, the people that keep talking about stuff, after
- 26:41a few times, it's no longer a mistake.
- 26:45It's intentional. And we know that from the
- 26:48district on up, these people are manipulating, attacking and
- 26:55unilaterally choosing to do these things.
- 26:59And it is our job now as carriers to come together
- 27:06against the onslaught that we are getting from management, not
- 27:12only for our craft, but for every craft out there.
- 27:16We need to come together. I know a lot of us in the rural
- 27:20city craft and even the clerk craft don't know any mail mail
- 27:23handlers. But I'm telling you, on my
- 27:26perspective alone, I stand with my brothers and sisters at the
- 27:29plant. It is I don't believe it is
- 27:32their fault this stuff is happening.
- 27:35I believe it is management from the district level and higher
- 27:39that is causing the plants to make all these mistakes.
- 27:42That is causing the issues in these plans because they are
- 27:45trying to control every little thing like you said,
- 27:49micromanaging and it is district management that is micromanaging
- 27:53the local management. Then that makes the local
- 27:56management have to micromanage the people that are under them.
- 28:00It is intentional now and it is time for the crafts to stand up,
- 28:06step up and show them that we, as the people who make the
- 28:12revenue for this service, won't take it anymore.
- 28:16Mr. Johnson posted up about a carrier saying could you sort
- 28:20the parcels cause the Internet was down?
- 28:22I'm sorry, what does the Internet have to do with the
- 28:25parcel sorting machine that should have its own server
- 28:29sorting parcels for that office? Am I missing something?
- 28:34Why is the Internet involved in that?
- 28:35The lamest excuse that I ever heard.
- 28:39The Internet's down. I mean, we have scanners in our
- 28:42office that are not connected to the Internet that can scan
- 28:46parcels and tell you what route they go to.
- 28:48How is that not possible to give to somebody, a clerk or a mail
- 28:52handler at the SNDC, whatever to sort these things?
- 28:55Use that. The old brick scanners, they
- 28:58work and they don't have Internet anymore.
- 29:00They killed the phone contract on them.
- 29:02Yeah, because the information doesn't get gathered until it's
- 29:05uploaded when they hang the scanner up.
- 29:07Yeah. But so some info I've gotten to
- 29:12change gears here. I had a carrier reach out to me
- 29:16this week about their route. They were a 40K route and the
- 29:22routes in their office got adjusted which turned the aux
- 29:26route into a 42J. Carrier bid on the 42 J won it
- 29:32in September and then the evaluation came out and it is
- 29:36A33H now because of when the around evaluations happened, it
- 29:42did not have enough data for 52 weeks to keep it at the 42 J.
- 29:47So the carrier is upset about that and wanted to know what
- 29:50they can do and stuff like that. Plus their guarantee salary was
- 29:56Table 2 step 13333 hours instead of what it's supposed to be,
- 30:04which is 40 hours at its current step.
- 30:07So they were reaching out to figure out what to do and in the
- 30:11process got in, got found out who their representative was,
- 30:15talked with them and the case was escalated up and it was
- 30:20passed on to Miss Bethany Small. So we're going to see what she
- 30:24she can do on this case, but they are trying to figure it
- 30:30out. Routes that were newly formed
- 30:35from the new evaluation of the route cuts are dropping hard.
- 30:41It's not the first one we've heard of.
- 30:43It's not the only one we've heard of.
- 30:46Routes that were cut have gone back over evaluation, over
- 30:50evaluated again. This is going to be a complex
- 30:54issue, but I wish that when they thought of this they could have
- 30:58turned around and said OK. If a route gets added to or
- 31:03deleted from, then we take that section of time that it was
- 31:08added from or deleted from and use that for the route
- 31:11evaluation temporarily until we can get full data sets on it.
- 31:16Because I'm sure the post office doesn't want to be overpaying
- 31:19carriers for more than the work they're doing.
- 31:21And I know carriers don't want to be underpaid for the work
- 31:25that they're doing. Why can't?
- 31:27Why didn't they come up with some kind of middle ground
- 31:29before they went into this system full tilt?
- 31:32Because they didn't test it fully to know where they needed
- 31:36to make those big changes. They couldn't test it on
- 31:39something that had every aspect showing, OK, if we cut it,
- 31:43what's going to happen? If we build up a new route,
- 31:45what's going to happen? They, they they couldn't do all
- 31:49this variable in the 1011 freaking years it took them to
- 31:53do this. They still couldn't work any of
- 31:55those bugs out. Because why?
- 31:57Oh, we didn't think about that. Yep.
- 31:59They didn't think of parent child routes.
- 32:01They didn't think of any of the other aspects of our job other
- 32:05than, Oh well, we're just we're just going to do evaluations and
- 32:08call it good from there. And then before, because you
- 32:11know, you had your box volume factor and you know, you, you
- 32:16knew what your boxes were worth and everything else.
- 32:20And now they use it as a route average.
- 32:23So when they do make these cuts and add on to routes and take
- 32:27away from routes and move territory around, that's
- 32:30screwing the whole thing up because they're taking it as a
- 32:32total average of the entire route and not the average of
- 32:35that section alone. Yep.
- 32:38That's because they're Commodore 64.
- 32:40Computers can't calculate that speed.
- 32:43Wow, you're giving them credit for actually having Commodore
- 32:4564? Doesn't say that.
- 32:47Seems like a little too up to date for them.
- 32:50Well, the. Advocates was, you know, the
- 32:52advocates wasn't keeping up either.
- 32:54I mean, I thought it was still the old punch card machine.
- 32:58Oh, now you're talking my language.
- 33:04But so they are supposedly working on it at National.
- 33:10Whether that's actually happening or not, we have yet to
- 33:13see. Like we have said before, we do
- 33:16not know how our newly elected board members are going to be,
- 33:20but we are giving them the benefit of their doubt to see
- 33:24what happens. I.
- 33:25Hope something positive happened.
- 33:28We all do, because it's a change we definitely needed.
- 33:31Now we just need to see the results of that change.
- 33:34We, we hope, but I, I cannot say that I am the Mystic whatsoever,
- 33:39given the leadership that we have.
- 33:42The top two positions are still and in that old boy style.
- 33:46And you know, somebody would compare Don Madsen to a
- 33:50unpopular German gentleman from the 30s and 40s.
- 33:55But you know, I, I, I, I don't have any hope that they're going
- 34:01to get anything better than what the city carriers have been
- 34:03offered. They don't, and.
- 34:04Neither do I. So those of you who had your
- 34:09routes added to and then lost in the last evaluation, just know
- 34:15we understand completely what's going on.
- 34:17We understand the system is flawed massively and it's going
- 34:22to take a year for you to see those results.
- 34:27It's going to take the next two mini mail surveys to get there.
- 34:31And for some people that may be too long for others if just a
- 34:38waiting game. But just know that we are
- 34:40actually in communication with our national office on this for
- 34:44several carriers as well. I talked with my NRO several
- 34:49times to try and make sure things get done.
- 34:51And everybody needs to. If you are affected by this, get
- 34:58in contact with your designated union Rep.
- 35:00Figure out what you guys can do, because being underpaid is just
- 35:06as bad as not being paid as all at all.
- 35:08Or not being paid for the hours that you actually work versus
- 35:12your evaluation. Yeah.
- 35:14I mean, I I left my route and it and it was 10 hours over the
- 35:17Max. I didn't see if any of that.
- 35:20All right, it. Got quiet that that was your cue
- 35:24to kick in there. That was your cue.
- 35:26You had something. I thought you had something to
- 35:28discuss. Did.
- 35:29I I thought you did. Didn't you get something or?
- 35:32I see in the comments we're telling people to get involved
- 35:35and not to pull their dues and everything else about getting
- 35:38changes. And you know, for years I've
- 35:42had, you know, some of the biggest rye babies in my office,
- 35:46non union members and I, I would politely explain to them,
- 35:50listen, I said, you know, I don't care what your gripe is,
- 35:54not in the union. You make no attempt to make any
- 35:56changes. You're not involved.
- 35:58They'll participate. So you don't have a voice.
- 36:01It's like when they send the, the, the votes out for the
- 36:03national contract don't get a vote and you don't have a voice.
- 36:07So, you know, after about the fourth, fifth time, I finally
- 36:11went, you know, Bill on and said, look, I don't care, Don't
- 36:14cry on my Dick. And I don't care if it's a, a
- 36:16man or a woman or whatever gender affiliation they had.
- 36:19But you know, I don't care if you're not part of the union,
- 36:24not part of the solution. Yeah, and then you get the. 1.
- 36:29You. Want your you want your gripes
- 36:31heard and join. Have a voice.
- 36:34And then you get the ones that gripe that are in the union, but
- 36:37they don't do anything. They don't go to a local, they
- 36:41don't vote for delegates, they don't vote for ratifications,
- 36:45but they just whine and complain and gripe and, and, and well,
- 36:50what's the union going to do about that?
- 36:52And this honey, we are the union.
- 36:56What many people think is the union are those nine people that
- 37:00sit up at the National board. They are not the union.
- 37:04Those are the elected representatives.
- 37:09The regular dues paying member is the main voice for the union.
- 37:15We are the union, even if the most you do is vote, whether
- 37:20it's for delegates or a contract ratification, and when only 17%
- 37:26/ 120,000 people are making the determination of whether this
- 37:32contract is a go or not a go vote.
- 37:35Sad. Sad.
- 37:37Yeah, well, Kristen and, and be being in your position, a single
- 37:41mom per say. I I once had a lady say, well, I
- 37:44can't go to the, you know, the local meeting because, you know,
- 37:47I got the kids and this and that and all and, and I said, look,
- 37:50bring the kids there. I said we're providing free food
- 37:53so you don't even have to make dinner to bring them.
- 37:55They get we'll put with coloring books and crayons in the back.
- 37:58I don't care. Come and participate, get
- 38:00involved and she goes, well, I, I've, I've never had anybody
- 38:04tell me that. Well, you know, you raise all
- 38:06kinds of objections. I said I can overcome this one.
- 38:09So bring the kids, we'll feed them.
- 38:10You participate and the, and the kids will have fun.
- 38:12Dress them in their pajamas. When you get home, you can put
- 38:15them right to bed. I, I, I do want to, I, I do want
- 38:19to add something out and I'm thinking about it because you
- 38:21remember last week I talked about how Kristen.
- 38:25Hang on. Yeah, go ahead.
- 38:27Before, before you get into that, I wanted to say 17% of the
- 38:31craft is only 20,400 people. 20,400 people decided the last
- 38:42contract. Out of 120,000 people, 20,400
- 38:47decided the fate of this craft. And I don't know about you, but
- 38:51I can't stand by and let everybody just be silent on it.
- 38:5520,400, If we had another 20,400 people step up and decide,
- 39:01imagine how that would sway a vote.
- 39:03Yeah. All right, so I don't remember
- 39:05if it was pre show, post show or maybe during the show, but I
- 39:08talked about an RCA in an office nearby where I grew up who turns
- 39:14out to be a former boss of mine from way back, you know, teenage
- 39:19early 20 years. And they talked carrier in that
- 39:24office at Booster and they gave him it my number and I hadn't
- 39:28talked to him in over 20 years. He called me Tuesday and we
- 39:32talked for 45 minutes Tuesday. This is somebody who is coming
- 39:36out of 32 years in management. So he's trying to change his
- 39:41thinking around a little bit 'cause he wants to make that
- 39:44office better. And I told him, I said the
- 39:47number one thing you can do. I said read up on your contract,
- 39:51read up, you know, read the contract, the PO6O3 and hold
- 39:55management responsible. I said, I know he can do that.
- 39:59He was a manager 32 years of his life, you know, and he's like,
- 40:04all right, you know, And I talked a little bit more.
- 40:06I said if you ever get hung up on something or a question or
- 40:09something, right? I said.
- 40:10Feel free, send me a text, I can send you a screenshot, tell you
- 40:13where to look, whatever I said. But number one, you want to make
- 40:16a change for the positive in that office.
- 40:19I said educate yourself on your rights and your responsibilities
- 40:24and hold management accountable to them and get active in the
- 40:28union. Go to your, your, your meetings,
- 40:30I said the next spring one is for the state.
- 40:33I told him when that was in a local meeting that night.
- 40:37So that was kind of a late notice for him because I didn't
- 40:39know the details. I just know they're having a
- 40:41local meeting that day. I still get involved.
- 40:43I said get get, you know, get yourself educated and get
- 40:46involved. He's like, all right.
- 40:47He goes, yeah, thank you. I was like, wow, this is kind of
- 40:50a little different twist here. He goes, yeah, he goes.
- 40:52Sometimes the teacher becomes the student.
- 40:55And I said, this is kind of fun for me.
- 40:59But yeah, I mean that that really right there.
- 41:01You want to make a change in your office, educate yourself
- 41:05and hold management responsible. That's the main thing that you
- 41:10can do. OK.
- 41:11I just wanted to share that. Well, it's true.
- 41:14The biggest thing, you know, you can have a steward in every
- 41:17single office. You can have somebody who's
- 41:20fighting management in every single office.
- 41:23But if every carrier in that office is educated, management
- 41:27will eventually learn that that office cannot be messed with.
- 41:31They'll mess with an office that has a steward, they'll mess with
- 41:34people that have a steward in office.
- 41:36But they will. They'll try, but eventually
- 41:40learn. It's too difficult to mess with
- 41:43an educated carrier. Now, as there's been studies,
- 41:46psychological studies done, an informed minority controls the
- 41:53uninformed majority. It's time for the majority to
- 41:59become informed. Can you imagine in the nether
- 42:03regions of your mind an office where everybody was educated,
- 42:08everybody knew the contract? 6O3 They didn't have to know the
- 42:12whole thing, but knew, you know, the, the, the vague fringes of
- 42:18their right on the floor and stood up to management every
- 42:21time management approached them with something that was
- 42:24afflicting with the contract and yell at them or whatever.
- 42:27Management would be cowering in their seats every day if they
- 42:32had to broach a subject with a carrier, because if one carrier
- 42:36didn't know something, the other than one next to them might step
- 42:38up and say, hey, you know, that's in violation of our
- 42:41rules. Sorry that that's not
- 42:43enforceable. Sorry.
- 42:46Did you ask them to work tomorrow?
- 42:48Did you file the order of consideration?
- 42:50You know, if you all, if an office like that ever existed,
- 42:54management would never, ever reach the confidentiality of our
- 43:00contract Elm, the six O 3, the M38, because they'd be if they
- 43:05would be afraid of like I said, when I was a local steward, I
- 43:08mean, I would file a grievance. I got to the point where I filed
- 43:11the grievance and the settlement the same day because the post
- 43:14match knew if I'm filing a grievance I was going to win it.
- 43:17Yeah, and me and. And it's those same carriers
- 43:20that'll gripe and gripe and gripe, but they won't stand up
- 43:22for themselves. And they expect the steward to
- 43:25do it all for them. And even then, the steward's
- 43:27like, dude, I can't. You have to initiate.
- 43:30You're not happy, You talk to management, you initiate it,
- 43:34then I'll take it over until then.
- 43:36Otherwise, quit your bitching. And I have a supervisor in our.
- 43:40Office that James. I understand both sides of that,
- 43:44Kristen. I do you know, I also know that
- 43:48there are some carriers that are so afraid of retaliation and
- 43:54living paycheck to paycheck, especially those on Table 2 or
- 43:57RCA that are on the table for that.
- 44:03They will talk with the steward and hope the steward can help
- 44:07them. And if the steward had the
- 44:09ability to file on contractual issues, just contractual issues,
- 44:15that alone could solve at least 40% of the problems in offices,
- 44:20if not 50%. I understand that that puts more
- 44:25work on the stewards. I understand that puts more work
- 44:28on the system. But at the same time, if
- 44:31management starts realizing that the union is stepping up for
- 44:37carriers, the union is defending against management's mistakes
- 44:44and intentional infliction of emotional distress, then at that
- 44:49point, management's going to cut the BS in half.
- 44:53But because we don't stand up for our fellow brothers and
- 44:57sisters, and I'm talking even regular carriers should, if they
- 45:02see a contractual violation occurring to another carrier,
- 45:06should be able to initiate agreement for that carrier to be
- 45:10able to protect their brother and sister on the floor.
- 45:13Because the only way that we have any semblance of an actual
- 45:18contract is if we enforce its parameters.
- 45:23A contract that is not enforced is no contract.
- 45:29I have to do agree with you on that a little bit James, but
- 45:32when this is carriers that have been around for well they're
- 45:35table one carriers, yes, Yeah, that just.
- 45:40And I have been in my office, Kristen, same way.
- 45:44You're going to have them in every office, you're going to
- 45:46have them everywhere because we're 120,000 people.
- 45:50You can't expect 120,000 people to think exactly the same way or
- 45:55act the exact same one. Oh, and you don't have 120,000
- 45:58that that have the backbone stand up for themselves either.
- 46:02You know, I, I've got a 30 year carrier that I don't think he
- 46:06had, but three grievances of which I handled too, the 30
- 46:11years that he's had because he's afraid, although just come after
- 46:15me or, and, and this gentleman had had a little arrangement
- 46:19with the supervisor or he would work every drop day and then
- 46:24take you the next day in the middle of the week at his, his,
- 46:27his own convenience. Well, when they stopped doing
- 46:29the overtime and he didn't get to, you know, his drop day to
- 46:33work, you know, he was crying and pissing the moan about it.
- 46:36I said, well, you didn't try and piss and moan about it when you
- 46:38worked the rules to your advantage, did you?
- 46:40No, and I said you didn't cry and piss and moan about it when
- 46:44you're not paying dues and you're not involved in the union
- 46:48yet. No, I said so when you're 30
- 46:50years, guess what you learn the working system to your
- 46:53advantage. Now it's gone and now you want
- 46:54to cry about it. Sorry it doesn't work that way.
- 46:57I I can have empathy towards people to a certain extent after
- 47:03a certain point, guess what you're on your own because you
- 47:07didn't bother to participate when it affected other people.
- 47:11You did was cry when it affected you.
- 47:12OK, so now that it has a direct effect on you, you have a
- 47:15complaint, but you have no foundation for your crying if
- 47:20they have a stub available to run your route and they're
- 47:25entitled to run your route. I, I, I did have an instance
- 47:28Friday there was a stand up talk happening about the three M mail
- 47:32that I mentioned pre show and the postmaster also mentioned
- 47:37the red line. And then she saw me walking
- 47:39closer to her out of my case and the look on my face.
- 47:45She got that look of terror on hers and she looked over at the
- 47:48steward who turned her on, looked at her, shrugged his
- 47:51shoulders and I waited until she was done talking.
- 47:55And then I asked a couple questions just to get
- 47:57verification before I decided if I was going to file a grievance
- 48:02or not. There was no grievance to file
- 48:04but I was already locked and loaded.
- 48:06All she did is see me step out of that case and walk closer up
- 48:09to the center of the room where she was at and the look of
- 48:11terror came across her face is. That what you got to do?
- 48:16Every carrier, yeah, every carrier has that ability.
- 48:22Every carrier has the chance to get management to back off of
- 48:28the stupid. I'm not going to say that word.
- 48:32The dumb things that come out of District's mouth because 99% of
- 48:40the things management is telling you to do was not in an e-mail.
- 48:46It was told to them over a telecon.
- 48:49So that the district manager has immunity from the grievance that
- 48:54comes because your manager will fall on a sword for the district
- 48:59manager, but the district manager will throw their ass
- 49:02under the bus faster than you can even blink.
- 49:05And then backed up just to make sure they got you.
- 49:07Oh yeah. Yep, but.
- 49:09Yeah, when? When?
- 49:11When you could just the way I stepped out of the case and
- 49:13walked towards the center of the room.
- 49:15Soon as she said the red line policy, I was like, oh, here we
- 49:19go, I'm waiting on this one. I let her finish and I made
- 49:24clarification that would be allowed to go back to our case
- 49:27when we returned. And yeah, I didn't have a
- 49:30grievance. I was like I was locked and
- 49:32loaded too. You know what's really egregious
- 49:37is that all my years I probably had three good supervisors on
- 49:41the rural side, and all three of them left because they didn't
- 49:46like working under the pressure from above.
- 49:49But every piece of shit supervisor I've ever had who
- 49:52follows and bends the knee, kisses the ring, and everything
- 49:56else of those above them, they've made lifelong careers
- 49:59out of the post office. Ones with the skinned up.
- 50:03Knee pads. You said it, not me.
- 50:10Yeah, it's. Really soft lips too.
- 50:15No, I mean, honestly guys, educating yourself, I mean
- 50:19everything is right there at your fingertips for the most
- 50:22part. Yeah, you may have to search and
- 50:24dig on the website a little bit. Lord knows it's not the best
- 50:28user friendly at times, but it is all right there available and
- 50:33educating yourself and educating your case mate.
- 50:37Or you know that new RCA coming into the office and standing up
- 50:43for yourself and make the biggest difference in holding
- 50:47management responsible as well. Because if you don't hold them
- 50:50responsible, they're going to run right over you completely
- 50:53every single chance they get. The longer you let them do it,
- 50:57the worse it's going to get. Anything else, gentlemen?
- 51:00That's all I had. Bill, you have anything you want
- 51:03to add? I think Bill Bill went into his
- 51:05retirement nap. I.
- 51:09Don't hear him snoring quite yet.
- 51:10True. Oh, I did want to bring up one
- 51:13more thing. This was kind of brought up to
- 51:15me a little bit earlier during a conversation.
- 51:18And RCA is, if you're not happy in an office, you can transfer.
- 51:25RCA transfers are so you can transfer, you can find an office
- 51:30that's going to treat you better and treat you with a little bit
- 51:34more respect and not be degrading and, and nasty to you.
- 51:39If you find another office, even if it's just because you get
- 51:42sent to another office to to help or you volunteer and you
- 51:46like that office better, you could always put in for a
- 51:50transfer if it's a better foot for you.
- 51:53I would rather see RC as transfer to an office that's a
- 51:57better fit for them than to see them quit and leave.
- 52:00Am I right guys? Yeah.
- 52:02I mean, if you're a regular carrier and you want to transfer
- 52:07out, you can look for district bids or you can also do a mutual
- 52:12transfer with somebody. That's another way you could do
- 52:15that. You could actually.
- 52:18There are people who move just from one district to another on
- 52:22a mutual transfer because somebody in the other district
- 52:24wants to move to their district. Yeah, so, and also, I mean, if
- 52:29another route, if you're you're struggling on the route, you're
- 52:31on your primary because it's one of those just bad routes or, you
- 52:36know, the, the regular doesn't keep the case up properly or,
- 52:40you know, there's a lot of different factors why routes
- 52:42aren't good fits for certain people.
- 52:44I've had routes that I never was able to to lasso in.
- 52:48I mean, I had a route, my old office, it didn't matter what
- 52:53day it was that I went out on that route.
- 52:55I wasn't getting back between it was 10 and 12 hours before I was
- 52:58getting back that me and that route just did not get along.
- 53:01But if there's another route that comes vacant with an RCA
- 53:05now, technically, according to Article 30, they are supposed to
- 53:09offer it by seniority when a leave replacement becomes open.
- 53:13They don't always do that. Put it in writing if you want to
- 53:16switch to another route that's, you know, a better fit for you,
- 53:20you know, if they fail to offer that by seniority down the chain
- 53:24when it comes vacant, that's an article 30 violation.
- 53:28I mean, I'd reach out to your designated union Rep on that.
- 53:32But there's, there's other ways, you know, don't feel like you're
- 53:35locked into a bad, bad office. I mean, or, or you're on a sucky
- 53:40route for one thing or another. I mean there are options make it
- 53:45better for our CIS like that. And just as somebody pointed out
- 53:50in the chat, and RCA has to have completed probation before
- 53:54transferring, but but an RCA can also just apply to an office and
- 54:01then quit at the office that they're at to go work at the
- 54:04other office. That's another way you can do
- 54:06it. There is and then I have been
- 54:08some instances where a transfer has gone through prior to the
- 54:14probationary period being over. You don't necessarily have to be
- 54:18in the office one full year. You just have to for sure have
- 54:22your 90 work days and to be out of probation so.
- 54:26Looks like bills having technical difficulties.
- 54:29I see that. But yeah, and there are lots of
- 54:36mutual transfer groups on Facebook for those who may be
- 54:39interested in transferring offices or districts or
- 54:43different states. Either way, any transfer, any
- 54:49transfer, you become the least senior person in that office.
- 54:55Oh, in an RCA instance, yes. So if you do a mutual transfer
- 55:00as a regular, all the routes in the office go up forbid and you
- 55:04get what's left. Basically it's not a route to
- 55:09route transfer. You can also find mutual
- 55:12transfer requests in the back of the NRLC magazine as well.
- 55:15But mutual transfers are definitely harder to come by as
- 55:20an RCA when you transfer as I have experience in this.
- 55:23As an RCA you fall to the bottom of the office seniority list.
- 55:28You still have your service time.
- 55:30Now if you are an RCA who transfers and you have more than
- 55:3412 months in, as an RCA therefore you are eligible to
- 55:39bid on a route and you transfer into an office that has let's
- 55:43say two or three other RCA's but they have less than 12 months
- 55:49in. This is where you get to
- 55:51leapfrog over them. Otherwise, you are below them
- 55:55seniority wise. So yeah, keep that in mind too.
- 55:59So now there's always, like I said, there's opportunities out
- 56:03there. And as a regular carrier, you
- 56:06transfer at the step you're at. You don't lose your pay.
- 56:10You you stay at the step you're at.
- 56:12If you transfer, can. You hear me now, James?
- 56:14Can you hear you now, Bill? Oh, you had technical
- 56:18difficulties? Yeah, for some some reason they
- 56:21just went mute. You know, it's like I thought I
- 56:23was talking to my wife for a minute.
- 56:25Anyway, no, my wife's never been mute.
- 56:33Then she went to bed already. Things you can say safely.
- 56:39Oh boy, yeah, you got to say those things at a safe distance.
- 56:43Obey. Oh hell yeah.
- 56:45Hey, I'm I'm the man of the house.
- 56:47As long as she said so. And I guarantee you, if some
- 56:50object is nearby and she heard you saying that, she'd hit you
- 56:53square between the eyes, wouldn't she?
- 56:56No, she usually goes for the back of the head.
- 56:59Oh OK, that she likes the sound the metal plate makes.
- 57:05And I'm sure sure with with all the years of living with you,
- 57:08she's gotten very accurate at that throwing.
- 57:10Oh. Let me tell you for for one, one
- 57:13practical joke. Put an electromagnet on the
- 57:16other side of the closet door. Stuck there for two days.
- 57:20All right, we good guys. I'm.
- 57:23Good, are you, Bill? You're good, I'm wonderful.
- 57:28I'm thinking about my list of things not to do tomorrow and I
- 57:32I've got 5 items on there already.
- 57:34All. Right.
- 57:34Make sure you do them this time or you'll be mad at yourself for
- 57:37not for not doing your not to do that.
- 57:39Well you know the first thing I not do is set the alarm clock.
- 57:43Lucky. Yes, yes, yes.
- 57:46I am very blessed. Second second thing I get up to
- 57:49do is decide what I'm not going to do when I get up to do.
- 57:54Why not to do lift? Understand that.
- 57:56All right, guys, James, final commentary for this evening.
- 58:01You know, we go over a lot of things on this podcast.
- 58:05We talk about a lot of issues, a lot of problems going on.
- 58:08We're here because we love what we do.
- 58:11We love our customers, we love the what our tasks entail us to
- 58:16do, but we're not going to sit idly by and just let management
- 58:20walk all over us. And you shouldn't either.
- 58:23You shouldn't let them walk over your brother and sister.
- 58:26Take care of your fellow carriers.
- 58:28Take care of your city brothers and sisters.
- 58:31Help them understand what this contract means, not only for the
- 58:35city craft, but for every single craft in the Postal Service.
- 58:40I know there's some out there that won't care what happens,
- 58:45and there are a lot of Nbas and regional people for the city
- 58:50craft that are going to vote yes just to hold their position
- 58:54underneath Renfro. But it's up to us as rural
- 58:58carriers to help educate our city brothers and sisters on
- 59:02what this this lack of a good contract means for the Postal
- 59:07Service, for the rural craft, for the clerk craft, nail
- 59:10handlers and the city craft. It's time for us all to stand up
- 59:15together and show management. We're all in this together,
- 59:20Bill. Well, it it's funny how in in
- 59:25retirement, I'm more active in the social media and the
- 59:28questions and everything that I'm getting and I still enjoy
- 59:32it. I still enjoy helping people.
- 59:35It's actually refreshing to have the time to do it.
- 59:38That's part of my To Do List is not to put off helping people
- 59:43because of the fact that, you know, I have the time and the
- 59:45resources to do so and it gives me a great deal of satisfaction.
- 59:50I still am missing my customers and my dogs and kids and all,
- 59:55but the fact of the matter is that I'm getting calls in my
- 59:58office, you know, on a regular daily basis from a number of
- 1:00:02carriers. And I still help them out
- 1:00:04because no matter what, I'll, I'll be a rule carrier at heart.
- 1:00:10And if I can help anybody advance themselves themselves or
- 1:00:15do better for themselves, that that's my calling.
- 1:00:20I'm, I'm like the the rabbi of rule carriers.
- 1:00:24Shalom. Here to help you, but the fact
- 1:00:27of the matter is that James, right, if we don't all stand
- 1:00:30together and protest, it's a protest contract that was
- 1:00:34offered to the city carriers. They're just going to pass it
- 1:00:36down the line and it's going to be accepted.
- 1:00:40The fact of the matter that a president of a union, National
- 1:00:44Union representing 200,000 people didn't even consult with
- 1:00:49its own board on offering this as a tentative agreement smacks
- 1:00:54of the disdain he has for the people he represents.
- 1:00:57And I pray that the Don doesn't have that disdain.
- 1:01:01I'm not hopeful, but I pray. I mean because we, we do deserve
- 1:01:05better. It's been 6 years now since all
- 1:01:10the Amazon has hit us smack in the face, broken our backs and
- 1:01:17and our hips and everything else.
- 1:01:18And the fact of the matter that that they had 12 years to get X
- 1:01:24correct before they implemented and there are holes in it left
- 1:01:28and right. And the fact that management
- 1:01:30never trained people, management never got trained properly and
- 1:01:34they still, like the comments earlier was will believe what
- 1:01:37management tells them. Yet they asked you to put it,
- 1:01:41put it in writing and you differ from them.
- 1:01:44How can you accept management's word challenge them on
- 1:01:47everything? Because of the fact that
- 1:01:48management is so uninformed, uneducated and ignorant in
- 1:01:54regards to the contract, the M 380603 DLM, they have little no
- 1:02:00idea except for what the people above them and they believe it.
- 1:02:04That's because they believe it doesn't mean you should
- 1:02:07challenge it. Stand up for the people next to
- 1:02:09you and up for yourself. It involved and I'm talking
- 1:02:13about getting involved on the floor at your local meetings, at
- 1:02:16your boosters, a convention and National Convention.
- 1:02:19Quit letting the minority dictate your future.
- 1:02:23If you want a better future, you have to get involved.
- 1:02:27Tomorrow's the start of another work day.
- 1:02:28Everybody go out your job professionally, efficiently and
- 1:02:32safely and make sure you make that last delivery, which is the
- 1:02:35most important delivery of the day.
- 1:02:37Go home to your loved ones. ZAP.
- 1:02:39Thank. You guys, all valid points, yes,
- 1:02:43educating yourself, standing up for yourself, standing up for
- 1:02:46your neighbors, your coworkers, your friends, your family and
- 1:02:51you know, vote that that's you know, when it when it becomes
- 1:02:54our turn to ratify a contract. Now take your time and read over
- 1:03:01that tentative agreement when we receive it.
- 1:03:03I'm not saying I, I don't know when we're going to receive it,
- 1:03:06but when we do, take your time and read it.
- 1:03:09Take everything, the whole picture in and then vote how you
- 1:03:14want to see that contract go. It's a simple, I mean, literally
- 1:03:18probably takes more time to open the envelopes that it's in than
- 1:03:22it does to actually vote. You know, you put it in, you
- 1:03:24take it out, you mark whether you want yes or no.
- 1:03:28You fold her up, you put her in the secret ballot envelope, you
- 1:03:31put it in the return envelope, you make sure you have your
- 1:03:34return address on there. Throw a stamp on it and toss it
- 1:03:38in the mail system. That's simple.
- 1:03:40And even when it comes for national delegates.
- 1:03:44And I would Start learning who people are.
- 1:03:46And you know, that means going to a, a, a state booster or a
- 1:03:50regional conference or a local meeting and asking others there
- 1:03:55who these people are and vote. Take that time to vote.
- 1:04:00That is probably 1 of the easiest ways to be involved.
- 1:04:04It's just simply filling out those ballots and returning
- 1:04:07them. So on that note guys, stay safe
- 1:04:10out there this week. I know we're still got a little
- 1:04:12over a week to go with political season for those of us that are
- 1:04:16getting slammed with it. And don't forget time change for
- 1:04:22those that are do it is next weekend.
- 1:04:26Daylight savings time goes bye, bye falls back an hour.
- 1:04:31Not thrilled. But on that note guys, stay safe
- 1:04:34out there this week. Take care and we will be back
- 1:04:36next week. Howdy, duty time.
- 1:04:52Howdy, duty time.