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Bachelors on a Train · The Ben and Ashley I Almost Famous Podcast

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  Speaker 1: This is the Ben and Ashley I almost famous podcast
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  Speaker 1: with i R Radio. Hey guys, what's up. It is
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  Speaker 1: Ashley I referring to myself as Ashley I, which some
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  Speaker 1: people find really funny. Another thing that I find really
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  Speaker 1: funny is talking to myself, So that is something I'm
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  Speaker 1: not trying to do right now. Ben is not here,
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  Speaker 1: but we are doing a special podcast from the Napa
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  Speaker 1: Valley Wine Train, which is a pretty cool rain train
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  Speaker 1: up here in Napa Valley. If you've never been to Napa,
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  Speaker 1: which I hadn't until today, this is a really cool
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  Speaker 1: way to get to know the area. It's like three
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  Speaker 1: separate um cars, and there's like a dining car, there's
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  Speaker 1: like a nice little like fancy, more relaxed car, and
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  Speaker 1: then there's an outdoor car. And of course you get wine,
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  Speaker 1: a lot of wine along the way, and you get
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  Speaker 1: to look out on the beautiful vineyards. And it's definitely
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  Speaker 1: something I'd highly recommend if you are going to go
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  Speaker 1: visit Napa Sometimes. So while I am sitting here in
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  Speaker 1: this makeshift studio that we have a you know, put together,
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  Speaker 1: I have some friends from the Bachelor who are in
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  Speaker 1: another car getting a little drunk. So I'm hoping that
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  Speaker 1: there are some lucy goosey guests of mine today. We're
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  Speaker 1: gonna start with Blake, the only guy that I don't
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  Speaker 1: have questions for written out. But Blake's very easy because
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  Speaker 1: I know what you guys want to hear from Blake about.
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  Speaker 1: You want to hear about his rumored relationship with Christina
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  Speaker 1: Shulman as of I feel like the fall, and you
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  Speaker 1: also want to talk about how he feels about Hannah
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  Speaker 1: g because he has been shipped with Hannah Ge like
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  Speaker 1: none other, like I have never watched the show and
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  Speaker 1: seeing two people that have possibly never met before but
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  Speaker 1: have been shipped as hard as they are for this
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  Speaker 1: upcoming season of Paradise. Maybe we'll get a hard answer
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  Speaker 1: if he's going to Paradise, because it's the worst secret
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  Speaker 1: in Bachelor Nation. So everybody, let's welcome Blake. Yeah, hello,
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  Speaker 1: all right, Blake? What do you have there? What's in
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  Speaker 1: your cup? I'd like to know what people are eating
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  Speaker 1: at us in the cup. I don't know what the
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  Speaker 1: stip is, like racota cheese in there. I don't know
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  Speaker 1: the Italian way of saying ricotta is Rocota's okay? All right? Well? Great, um,
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  Speaker 1: let's start out with some fun questions before I get
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  Speaker 1: to all the shipping that you've had to deal with
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  Speaker 1: over the past couple of months. How has the Bachelor
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  Speaker 1: at changed your dating life? Like, I don't want you
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  Speaker 1: to be like, oh my god, it's like I've gotten
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  Speaker 1: I've gotten so many more d M and I've gotten
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  Speaker 1: some like dirty picks. No, I want to know, like
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  Speaker 1: how many girls you kissed this year? It's going for it.
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  Speaker 1: I'm not going to answer that. No. Well, I mean,
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  Speaker 1: would you even know how you kept it tally? No?
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  Speaker 1: I kept it tally of kisses my whole life. Remember this?
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  Speaker 1: Did you remember? Yes? I remember this. Yes, it's a
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  Speaker 1: full circle moment we're having right now because you know,
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  Speaker 1: since we last asked you that question, or I talked
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  Speaker 1: about my list, that was in September, and you know
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  Speaker 1: that was when he really started to experience life dating
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  Speaker 1: after the Bachelor, which so I'm wondering how many kisses
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  Speaker 1: you wrapped wrapped up? No, I mean, listen, dating now
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  Speaker 1: is it's hard. It's hard. I mean it's easy because
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  Speaker 1: you know, obviously there's a lot more opportunities and as
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  Speaker 1: you could say, but also it's it's hard. Like, I
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  Speaker 1: remember I took a girl on a date one time,
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  Speaker 1: um and people were taking pictures of me from across
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  Speaker 1: the bar, you know, on a date with this girl.
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  Speaker 1: And she was like, does this happen like all the time?
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  Speaker 1: And I was like, yeah, you know, like this is
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  Speaker 1: something that you'd have to get used to, you know,
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  Speaker 1: if if this was to happen. And then I remember
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  Speaker 1: I asked her. I was like, did you tell your
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  Speaker 1: friends that you were going on a date with me?
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  Speaker 1: She's like I didn't. And I was like why and
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  Speaker 1: she's like, I didn't. I felt like they judged me.
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  Speaker 1: If you're going on a date with Blake from the
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  Speaker 1: batch heads the cool thing, but that's the thing. She
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  Speaker 1: didn't want it, so she said it because she didn't
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  Speaker 1: want people to be like, all, the only reason you're
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  Speaker 1: going with him is because he's Blake from the bat Serette.
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  Speaker 1: So it just changed everything. Like she's like, like, normally
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  Speaker 1: would you tell your friends that you're going to date
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  Speaker 1: with somebody? And she's like, yeah, normally I would. She's like,
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  Speaker 1: I didn't even know I was doing something different, but
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  Speaker 1: it does. It changes everything. Chan it was actually an
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  Speaker 1: old friend. It was an old friend from before the show. Yeah, no,
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  Speaker 1: I don't get how did it happen? How did you
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  Speaker 1: reconnect with an old friend? How did we reconnect? Actually,
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  Speaker 1: I think it was just one of those We ran
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  Speaker 1: in each other and I had always kind of had
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  Speaker 1: a little crush on her, and so we went out.
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  Speaker 1: That's cute, but the crush no longer exists. Didn't know,
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  Speaker 1: I didn't really pan out, Like I like the way
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  Speaker 1: that when Ben's not here, I will go full on
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  Speaker 1: fan girl interview and I think it's fun every now
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  Speaker 1: and then. Tell us something about you, Blake that is
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  Speaker 1: off the norm of what we saw as your character
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  Speaker 1: on the show. Like I don't want to say what
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  Speaker 1: would be what would surprise people, but what my narrative
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  Speaker 1: of the show, Like what because you were like kind
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  Speaker 1: of this boy scout, But I don't really think of
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  Speaker 1: you after like getting to know you a few in
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  Speaker 1: a few different scenarios, like I think of you as
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  Speaker 1: a boy scout anymore. No, that's that's actually exactly so,
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  Speaker 1: And that's there's a lot of pressure coming off the
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  Speaker 1: batcherette when you're casted or not cast But like your
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  Speaker 1: narrative on the show is a boy scout, you know,
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  Speaker 1: because it's hard because you feel like sometimes people look
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  Speaker 1: at you and like expects you to be something that
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  Speaker 1: you're not or better than who you are. And I mean,
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  Speaker 1: I have my flaws and everything, you know, So yeah,
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  Speaker 1: I definitely am not I'm not a boy scout um,
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  Speaker 1: and I guess I mean I am sensitive like I
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  Speaker 1: I do. I think I am. But I got that
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  Speaker 1: narrative of I didn't seem like I was very seemed
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  Speaker 1: like I was always in my head in the show, which,
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  Speaker 1: don't get me wrong, it was really hard, hyper anxious,
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  Speaker 1: I know, which is insane, which is insane. I kind
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  Speaker 1: of want one of that. I eat while podcast and
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  Speaker 1: thank you, I know, which is insane because if you
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  Speaker 1: ask everybody that knows me, they're like, I'm very, very
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  Speaker 1: laid back. But don't get me wrong, everybody reacts differently
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  Speaker 1: in that vironment. So I get that I was don't
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  Speaker 1: get me wrong, I was in my head, but I
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  Speaker 1: wasn't not an anxious person, which is kind of funny.
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  Speaker 1: Have you ever do usually respond to like a crumbling
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  Speaker 1: relationship the way you did in the show, or did
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  Speaker 1: you feel like you were even more out of control? Well,
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  Speaker 1: but that's the problem at the time my larratio wasn't
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  Speaker 1: crumbling with Mecca. So that's the issue is that is
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  Speaker 1: that it wasn't crumbling at any point. Never did it crumble,
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  Speaker 1: So at the end when it did happen, it was
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  Speaker 1: hard because I didn't see it coming really, you know.
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  Speaker 1: So that's made everything more difficult that it wasn't crumbling
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  Speaker 1: at any point in your life. How many serious relationships
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  Speaker 1: have you had? I would say two, okay, right after
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  Speaker 1: college series two years, lived together everything, and then right before,
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  Speaker 1: not right before the show about it, eight months, nine
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  Speaker 1: months before the show, I thought I had found the
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  Speaker 1: one that I was yeah, yeah, yeah. So those were
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  Speaker 1: the two where I was like, this could be it.
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  Speaker 1: This is a kind of thing. Okay, all right, Well
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  Speaker 1: do you see your next serious relationship being with Hannah Gy?
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  Speaker 1: You should just do? You know, you don't even need Ben.
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  Speaker 1: I feel like you're asking way harder questions that I'm
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  Speaker 1: I think I do ask harder questions with Ben here
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  Speaker 1: because he like, he likes to be so nice and
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  Speaker 1: I'm just gonna ask a politician. But that's why he's
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  Speaker 1: good at this too. That's why he's good at this too. Yeah, um,
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  Speaker 1: good question. No, I mean, no, listen, I am very
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  Speaker 1: I'm going in open minded to Paradise. Uh and I'm excited,
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  Speaker 1: I think so, I'll be honest, who's being a politician now? Touche?
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  Speaker 1: When they first cast. When I saw the cast of
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  Speaker 1: Colton season, I was like, oh my god, they're all
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  Speaker 1: very young. Yeah, oh my god, they're stunning. Yeah. But
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  Speaker 1: but I'm looking for, you know, a wife and so
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  Speaker 1: you know, a serious relationship, and so when I saw
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  Speaker 1: their ages and everything, I was kind of like, oh boy,
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  Speaker 1: like I'm not even gonna go Paradise. But then once
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  Speaker 1: I got to know them on the show, I was like,
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  Speaker 1: you know what, I think there's a I'm not even
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  Speaker 1: going to go to Paradise. Coming off the show, I
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  Speaker 1: remember because that my mom was like, are you gonna
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  Speaker 1: do Paradise? Was like, hell, no, no way I'm doing.
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  Speaker 1: I think everybody has assumed that you're going to do
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  Speaker 1: in Paradise since Colton was announced. Well, I mean, I
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  Speaker 1: can't confirm it tonight. If I'm gonna do Paradise to night,
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  Speaker 1: you can't. I wanted to get a confirmation today. No don't.
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  Speaker 1: I haven't. No, like there's nothing, I haven't even had
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  Speaker 1: any conversations. That's what's funny. Yeah, that's the best part
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  Speaker 1: is like people like, yeah, people are like, oh, he's confirmed.
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  Speaker 1: I'm like, I haven't even had conversations. You mean you
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  Speaker 1: haven't had conversation. I haven't. I haven't had conversations about
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  Speaker 1: being on the base. All right, Does that make you worried?
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  Speaker 1: I don't know. I don't know if that's a good
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  Speaker 1: sign or a bead side. I don't know. Um, I
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  Speaker 1: remember being worried for Bachelor in Paradise season three when
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  Speaker 1: they were like reaching out to Carly and Dared and
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  Speaker 1: then they didn't reached out to me. I know that
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  Speaker 1: they've reached out to multiple people, but yeah, I haven't
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  Speaker 1: really had any kind of conversations. I don't know if
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  Speaker 1: they're waiting to see who's going. I don't know. Maybe
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  Speaker 1: you're just such a shoe in that they're not even
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  Speaker 1: thinking that they have to call you. I feel like
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  Speaker 1: that's messed up, okay, but we have acknowledged respect. That's
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  Speaker 1: the girls from this season are so pretty. They are
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  Speaker 1: they are Paradise is going to be ye, which girl
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  Speaker 1: were you like? Whoa? Oh you mean like they're like
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  Speaker 1: cast photo type thing. What do you mean like I mean,
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  Speaker 1: I want to know who the first time you saw
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  Speaker 1: the cast pictures, and then who you were like, holy
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  Speaker 1: damn when she stepped by the limo. Oh oh my gosh.
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  Speaker 1: Actually I hate your question. I can eat while you think.
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  Speaker 1: God you're right is a very studdying cats. But I
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  Speaker 1: will be honest. Hannah GE's cast shoto. I remember being like, whoa,
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  Speaker 1: the girl's gorgeous. I remember, I remember that moment. I
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  Speaker 1: was like, holy cow, that chicks gorgeous. Um, there's a
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  Speaker 1: lot of Kaylin. Remember her cast photo. I was like,
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  Speaker 1: oh wow, um, but there's a lot. So that's the
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  Speaker 1: thing too, because sometimes the cast photo will three off
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  Speaker 1: our photos in general, and you seem in person, well yeah,
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  Speaker 1: look at Jed from Hannis. These pictures were of These
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  Speaker 1: were horrible pictures. You know, we went through, we went
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  Speaker 1: through every guy and we gave a sentence on what
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  Speaker 1: we hear that it was really fun. And then I
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  Speaker 1: was like Jed not cute Jett and real I didn't
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  Speaker 1: see him in real life, but Jett and the paparazzi
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  Speaker 1: potures with like some mad swag. They did not There's
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  Speaker 1: no justice for those guys. Those pictures were awful. So
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  Speaker 1: I'm waiting to see until I see them in person,
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  Speaker 1: and I think it will change. Um, but if I
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  Speaker 1: go to Paradise, if I just said to go to
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  Speaker 1: Paradise unexcited. So you think Hannah Gi is really hot,
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  Speaker 1: but you're open minded. I am going in very open
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  Speaker 1: minded into Paradise. So you said earlier, the shipping that's happened,
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  Speaker 1: I feel it's insane. Remember you saying when we were
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  Speaker 1: in Connecticut it was insane, Like every fourth person was
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  Speaker 1: liked Henery. Well, people are assuming that you guys are
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  Speaker 1: already talking can be super honest, Like have you exchanged
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  Speaker 1: a few little dms just about Like, Hey, isn't it
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  Speaker 1: funny that people are shipping us so hard? Not d
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  Speaker 1: M s. No, but I have met her for like
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  Speaker 1: a good ten fifteen minutes. Yeah, isn't she super impressive?
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  Speaker 1: Like not only is she just beautiful, but she also
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  Speaker 1: has such an amazing personality. She's so refreshing to be around. No,
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  Speaker 1: I was surprised. I was saying that I was surprised
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  Speaker 1: to and I don't want to say that she didn't
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  Speaker 1: come across ground on the show. She was getting it
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  Speaker 1: out of the show. She wasn't on the show. I
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  Speaker 1: have a theory that blowing. I have a theory that
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  Speaker 1: they like edit her out of the show because then
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  Speaker 1: people would have thought that Colton was wacky. I mean,
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  Speaker 1: not that Cassie don't seemed great, but like it was
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  Speaker 1: like Hannah Geees not only setting but like wants to
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  Speaker 1: be with you and is so smart and and you know,
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  Speaker 1: got this great personality. And but I also feel really
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  Speaker 1: bad for her because she just got out, you know
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  Speaker 1: how it is on the show, Like you get out
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  Speaker 1: of the show and you're she was in a quote
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  Speaker 1: unquote relationship with Colton that she had a fake and
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  Speaker 1: then suddenly it's like, I know that's how bastination is.
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  Speaker 1: But then suddenly she's like shipped back in another relationship.
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  Speaker 1: So I feel bad for her. Let the girl live
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  Speaker 1: live a little bit. So you did hang out, let
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  Speaker 1: me play, okay, So you got her number that is
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  Speaker 1: not okay? Um, and then there's somebody else who you
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  Speaker 1: had sort of like a fling with. And I'm not
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  Speaker 1: just saying this because like I know, but because like
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  Speaker 1: pretty much everybody, yeah, you and Christina Shulman, like how
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  Speaker 1: the flirtation, I'd say, was there a relationship. You want
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  Speaker 1: to clarify things that happened with Christina Shelman now before
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  Speaker 1: you see her in Paradise, And oh yeah, I definitely
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  Speaker 1: think she's gonna be there. No, I mean we've talked
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  Speaker 1: about this quite a few times. She talks about it
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  Speaker 1: like we were hanging out. It was a very weird
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  Speaker 1: point in my life, right, I'd like, just come off
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  Speaker 1: the show, and I didn't realize, you know, how demanding
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  Speaker 1: this is coming off the show, and how crazy the
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  Speaker 1: schedule is and everything. And she's great. Um, you know,
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  Speaker 1: we had we had, we had some good times, but
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  Speaker 1: I just felt like at that time and just in general,
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  Speaker 1: I don't know, if you don't necessarily it would have worked.
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  Speaker 1: And so we decided to and it was very it
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  Speaker 1: was mutual, and it was like, we don't not like
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  Speaker 1: each other, we don't hate each other, there's no bad
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  Speaker 1: blood there. It was just kind of right now, this
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  Speaker 1: timing and everything, it's just it's not right. So I
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  Speaker 1: feel like sometimes that that happens, and I mean sometimes
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  Speaker 1: I think that shared and I then it started happened there,
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  Speaker 1: but we all know that that was meant to be
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  Speaker 1: in the end. In this you make it seem like
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  Speaker 1: it's not meant to be in the end, But when
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  Speaker 1: we went into Paradise, I feel like emotions can be
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  Speaker 1: heightened and even though you're like, oh it didn't work
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  Speaker 1: out or like that was mutual, you get into Paradise
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  Speaker 1: and then you're like, we're supposed if I love and
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  Speaker 1: I love you, you you know environment Yeah, it's crazy. So,
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  Speaker 1: like I wonder if there will be some drama there
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  Speaker 1: if she does do it, and if you do do it,
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  Speaker 1: I may maybe I don't. I mean, who knows. The
• 13:47
  Speaker 1: producers are magicians, so maybe make some drama out of that.
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  Speaker 1: I don't know, but I don't foresee it. Like I don't.
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  Speaker 1: I'm not scared, Like if she walks down the stairs
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  Speaker 1: and be like happy to see, like, I'm not going
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  Speaker 1: to be like, oh my god, shoot, you know she's here. No,
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  Speaker 1: it'll be like that all. I'll be happy to see
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  Speaker 1: her and everything. Um, there's no like I said, question
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  Speaker 1: for you though, So I've been asking this, right, Yeah,
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  Speaker 1: So what do you think is not like I said,
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  Speaker 1: I honestly had no conversations yet, what do you think
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  Speaker 1: it is better to be the original cast on Paradise
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  Speaker 1: would be the first one down the stairs with a
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  Speaker 1: date card. So I was in both situations for you. Yeah,
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  Speaker 1: I was well the second girl in of the second bunch, yeah,
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  Speaker 1: the first bunch of girls that were in the original cast.
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  Speaker 1: And then I was also in the original cast. And
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  Speaker 1: it is way better to be in the original that's
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  Speaker 1: what everybody says. Okay, oh yeah, because I think some
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  Speaker 1: people can really come in and like mess things up
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  Speaker 1: if but I don't think that's in your Actually, there
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  Speaker 1: might be like a lot of girls waiting for you,
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  Speaker 1: so it may be great. If you're like the first
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  Speaker 1: guy down there outside of the original cast, you probably
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  Speaker 1: go in like day two. Yeah, it wouldn't be exactly two,
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  Speaker 1: But everybody everybody's been saying original cast is a way
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  Speaker 1: to go, like yes, because that you never want to
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  Speaker 1: walk in and then see person that you planned on
• 15:02
  Speaker 1: going on a date with already pretty committed. That would
• 15:06
  Speaker 1: be hard. I like those little cream puff things, So yeah, okay,
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  Speaker 1: get me another one of those and eastern leave that in.
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  Speaker 1: All right, My one last discussion with you has to go.
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  Speaker 1: It goes back to Christina. So there's this was it
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  Speaker 1: from an email actually from Jordan's and she said there
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  Speaker 1: was talk of Dean and Christina possibly being back on Paradise.
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  Speaker 1: I could be wrong, but wasn't Blake and Christina somewhat
• 15:32
  Speaker 1: of an item coming off back of season? Hypothetically speaking,
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  Speaker 1: Let's say Blake and Hannah g have been in communication
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  Speaker 1: and then Christina shows up and this is not my
• 15:42
  Speaker 1: own words, this is Jordan's words, shows up with all
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  Speaker 1: of her cleanness. I can see drama happening right now. Thoughts.
• 15:49
  Speaker 1: First of all, Christine is not clean. I'm gonna put
• 15:51
  Speaker 1: that out there. I know it's not your words, but
• 15:53
  Speaker 1: I know that ships. That's like they're I don't want
• 15:56
  Speaker 1: your reputation, But it doesn't like like I said, I
• 15:59
  Speaker 1: don't wouldn't be scared that she walked down and like
• 16:02
  Speaker 1: I would not be like, oh my god. You know,
• 16:04
  Speaker 1: if I'm in the relationship with anybody at that point,
• 16:06
  Speaker 1: or you don't have a connection with somebody, I don't
• 16:07
  Speaker 1: think she'd walk down and be like, oh no, she's
• 16:09
  Speaker 1: about starting to blow everything up. Like I wouldn't. Exactly,
• 16:14
  Speaker 1: you told me you wouldn't bring it up. They wouldn't
• 16:16
  Speaker 1: be like that. It wouldn't. I'm not. I wouldn't be
• 16:18
  Speaker 1: scared if she walked down the well just in defense
• 16:21
  Speaker 1: of Christina. Cleanness is really just you really like somebody,
• 16:24
  Speaker 1: you want to be with them. Yeah, especially on the show,
• 16:26
  Speaker 1: like they only show if you're really into somebody. They're
• 16:28
  Speaker 1: only going to show the part where you seeing cleaning
• 16:30
  Speaker 1: and then they're gonna put the music. But do don't
• 16:32
  Speaker 1: do do? Do? Don't do? Do? Do? Do? You talk
• 16:34
  Speaker 1: from experience? I think I know? Well, thank you, like
• 16:37
  Speaker 1: you're always a fantastic guest, is so fun appreciated? Will
• 16:40
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• 16:42
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• 19:00
  Speaker 1: how are you Ashley good? How are you? I'm great today?
• 19:03
  Speaker 1: How how has life been since you have been like
• 19:08
  Speaker 1: a little bit taking a little time off from the
• 19:10
  Speaker 1: public eye. I feel like you've been kind of quiet
• 19:12
  Speaker 1: over the past year. Yeah, you know, so, I mean
• 19:15
  Speaker 1: like I had, I do have my um normal job,
• 19:20
  Speaker 1: normal job exactly? How is that being a Bachelor contestant
• 19:23
  Speaker 1: with a nice normal job. So I was never looking
• 19:26
  Speaker 1: to to be on the show. Like I don't know
• 19:28
  Speaker 1: if I've ever heard my background behind all of this before,
• 19:32
  Speaker 1: but but my little sister like put my information in
• 19:35
  Speaker 1: and when they called me for the show, it's like
• 19:37
  Speaker 1: at work, and I thought I thought it was a
• 19:39
  Speaker 1: print call. It was. It was like this really pubblic
• 19:42
  Speaker 1: girl with this l a act. She was like, Hi,
• 19:44
  Speaker 1: this is Kelly from the Bachelor. Are you still single.
• 19:46
  Speaker 1: I was just like, uh, who is this awesome? So
• 19:52
  Speaker 1: I actually made her email me. I hung up there,
• 19:55
  Speaker 1: like it's like a telemarker. It's like when they called
• 19:58
  Speaker 1: me and they're like, actually I used this excuse on
• 20:01
  Speaker 1: the phone sular day and I couldn't believe it came
• 20:03
  Speaker 1: out of my mouth. I go, I'm sorry, Ashley, can't
• 20:06
  Speaker 1: come to the phone right now? Can I take a message?
• 20:09
  Speaker 1: You know? I used to answer the phone and be
• 20:11
  Speaker 1: like Derek's assistant, just a mess with people, and and
• 20:14
  Speaker 1: every once in a while with like telemarketers too. Yeah. Yeah,
• 20:17
  Speaker 1: so so I mean I think like I've always kind
• 20:19
  Speaker 1: of tried to seek um, like slipping away a little bit.
• 20:24
  Speaker 1: But you know it's so so I like that. I like,
• 20:26
  Speaker 1: I like um, I like doing a ninety five job. Honestly,
• 20:30
  Speaker 1: that's like, that's that's me. Yeah, I just it's just me. Yeah.
• 20:34
  Speaker 1: But you know, sometimes you need to excite, you know,
• 20:37
  Speaker 1: add a little excitement to your life. So you decide
• 20:39
  Speaker 1: to go on a date with Stephanie Pratt, who is
• 20:42
  Speaker 1: from The Hills um and the reboot of the Hills,
• 20:46
  Speaker 1: which airs in June. It seems like, wells, you're I
• 20:49
  Speaker 1: feel like it was your best he's your best friend
• 20:51
  Speaker 1: from the Bachelor franchise. He really is. Yeah, I mean
• 20:53
  Speaker 1: he's he will be in my wedding some day. And
• 20:55
  Speaker 1: he says that about me too, like where we are
• 20:58
  Speaker 1: real life, very great friends. Okay, that's nice. So he
• 21:00
  Speaker 1: set you up because he has a news but I know,
• 21:08
  Speaker 1: see that's like the kind of thing that have beends here.
• 21:10
  Speaker 1: He's like, now, let's take a moment to relish and
• 21:13
  Speaker 1: what a what a wonderful blessing this friend of this
• 21:15
  Speaker 1: and let's talk about the date you do a really
• 21:17
  Speaker 1: good ben. Thank you, thank you. I've done this enough
• 21:22
  Speaker 1: with them to know exactly what he would say in
• 21:24
  Speaker 1: the situation. Okay, So I think that Wells probably hooked
• 21:28
  Speaker 1: you up because he does the Pratt Cast with Stephanie Pratt.
• 21:31
  Speaker 1: Yeah exactly. And and were they looking for some fodder
• 21:34
  Speaker 1: to talk about on the show. I mean he didn't
• 21:37
  Speaker 1: really tell me much. He just, um, he just texted
• 21:40
  Speaker 1: me one day and I was like, hey, like, I
• 21:43
  Speaker 1: have I have an idea you should like you should
• 21:45
  Speaker 1: call me later. And then we called him on the
• 21:48
  Speaker 1: phone and he was like, listen, we want to do
• 21:51
  Speaker 1: this like fun thing with you where I think he
• 21:53
  Speaker 1: wanted to call me so he could convince me this
• 21:56
  Speaker 1: was not done over text. There are some things where
• 21:58
  Speaker 1: you like text your friend and be like, hey, when
• 22:00
  Speaker 1: do you have time to talk? Yeah, exactly and uh
• 22:05
  Speaker 1: and and he was he like he like walked all
• 22:07
  Speaker 1: around it. And finally I was like, well, it's just like,
• 22:09
  Speaker 1: what's what's going on? And um he was like, you know,
• 22:11
  Speaker 1: I just started to do this new podcast, and UM,
• 22:15
  Speaker 1: I think this girl would be like a really fun
• 22:17
  Speaker 1: date for you to go on, and also we can
• 22:19
  Speaker 1: hang out in that way. She's really pretty. She's super
• 22:22
  Speaker 1: fun too, actually, and she is very pretty. Yes, of course,
• 22:25
  Speaker 1: so you're actually on board the Napa Valley wine train
• 22:29
  Speaker 1: right now, and this is kind of your second date
• 22:33
  Speaker 1: or so wells like, so say your second date was
• 22:36
  Speaker 1: definitely because she's here as well. And I've been observing
• 22:39
  Speaker 1: you guys, it seems like you're having a pretty good time. Yeah.
• 22:42
  Speaker 1: I think she's like she has a super good sense
• 22:44
  Speaker 1: of humor. Um. One of the things that I was
• 22:47
  Speaker 1: like really unexpected they came like really unexpected from her,
• 22:51
  Speaker 1: was she like she really bust balls and I like that,
• 22:54
  Speaker 1: but like, actually it's it's hard for me to find
• 22:57
  Speaker 1: girls who appreciate that back, and that's like part of
• 22:59
  Speaker 1: my sense of humor and just like who I am.
• 23:02
  Speaker 1: And she really liked that she was. She kept telling
• 23:04
  Speaker 1: me how funny I was, and I was like, oh
• 23:06
  Speaker 1: my god, this is the greatest thing. Like nobody ever
• 23:09
  Speaker 1: tells me that I'm No girls ever tell me that
• 23:10
  Speaker 1: I'm funny. Then then this is promising. Okay, so let's
• 23:16
  Speaker 1: just pretend like this goes somewhere very well. May then
• 23:20
  Speaker 1: you could have Spencer Pratt as a brother and Mom,
• 23:24
  Speaker 1: how would you feel about that? And did you used
• 23:27
  Speaker 1: to watch The Hills? Like do you don't even know
• 23:29
  Speaker 1: who Spencer Pratt is? So I really don't. Um, I
• 23:33
  Speaker 1: didn't watch the Hills. I did watch the Gunda Beach.
• 23:36
  Speaker 1: But then, like I think I was in college and
• 23:38
  Speaker 1: it just like they didn't have MTV on our schools
• 23:41
  Speaker 1: network or whatever. I went to school in Iowa. Okay, Okay,
• 23:49
  Speaker 1: my reason. So that was what my life would be
• 23:51
  Speaker 1: like with Chris Souls exactly. MTV list him last week
• 23:57
  Speaker 1: for the first Yeah, it was he so sweet, He's
• 24:00
  Speaker 1: very sweet. Does he seems like he's doing well? I
• 24:03
  Speaker 1: think he's Okay, we all care about it. I know
• 24:05
  Speaker 1: he's you know, he's got a lot going on, but
• 24:07
  Speaker 1: but like I think he's doing he's doing all right.
• 24:09
  Speaker 1: He's he was fun and happy, so okay, well that's
• 24:12
  Speaker 1: good anyway. Um, yeah, Like I don't know much about
• 24:17
  Speaker 1: Spencer Bad. I know he's got an interesting rap. I
• 24:19
  Speaker 1: know he's a really funny guy though too. So I
• 24:22
  Speaker 1: mean honestly, I like don't really usually hold any um
• 24:26
  Speaker 1: grudges again people before I meet him, and even if
• 24:28
  Speaker 1: like I've had beef with people, I like, I'm I
• 24:31
  Speaker 1: don't know, I think again, it comes from my Iowa background,
• 24:34
  Speaker 1: like a similar to Ben Indiana. US midwesterners were just
• 24:36
  Speaker 1: like we seek the best in everybody. So we just
• 24:40
  Speaker 1: we just try to find ways to laugh and connect
• 24:41
  Speaker 1: with people. Um, so I'm sure it would be fine,
• 24:44
  Speaker 1: but maybe not. I'm you know, I live in New York. Now. Yeah,
• 24:48
  Speaker 1: I was gonna say, I was like, so you went
• 24:50
  Speaker 1: from are you went from Iowa to New York? How
• 24:53
  Speaker 1: has been the naturansition? Transition? Surprisingly easy? Are you in Manhattan?
• 24:57
  Speaker 1: Are you in a borough? I was? I was living
• 24:59
  Speaker 1: in Connecticut. I actually moved to Chelsea next week right
• 25:05
  Speaker 1: in the mix of everything. Oh, I'm like, I'm like,
• 25:07
  Speaker 1: that's that's the best. That's my favorite place of New York.
• 25:10
  Speaker 1: I'm like, I know people try to be cool and
• 25:12
  Speaker 1: they're like, oh, the Lower East Village or you know,
• 25:14
  Speaker 1: trade Becca or Brooklyn, and I'm like, I just like
• 25:17
  Speaker 1: some Broadway and some reliable food. Yeah, I love Like
• 25:22
  Speaker 1: you ever watch How I Met Your Mother and they
• 25:24
  Speaker 1: make up like a Burrow that's Taoist, Like they just
• 25:28
  Speaker 1: make up this nickname and it stands for downwind from
• 25:30
  Speaker 1: the sewage treatment. But I don't know that that's how Like,
• 25:35
  Speaker 1: that's how they make up neighborhoods in New York. They
• 25:37
  Speaker 1: can try to make them sound cool so that they
• 25:39
  Speaker 1: can just like you know, bring bring people in. Um,
• 25:43
  Speaker 1: well you did Paradise Ones. It worked for you in
• 25:48
  Speaker 1: a way that I mean, you got life experience, you met,
• 25:52
  Speaker 1: You've got a fiance from it. Yeah. Um, like I wouldn't.
• 25:57
  Speaker 1: I would never change anything that happened throughout that whole experience,
• 26:00
  Speaker 1: you know, like in the moment, that's absolutely how I felt,
• 26:02
  Speaker 1: and that's the decisions I made. Um, the producers did
• 26:07
  Speaker 1: call me last week. I knew what you're leading into.
• 26:11
  Speaker 1: I think I'm not going to do it again. I'm sure. Yeah,
• 26:13
  Speaker 1: you like you're really sure. I am really sure. Okay, alright,
• 26:17
  Speaker 1: I like my nine five too much. And with that,
• 26:20
  Speaker 1: actually's like, okay, next guest, No, no, no, I'm going
• 26:23
  Speaker 1: to ask you one little fun question because I don't
• 26:26
  Speaker 1: want to ask who you would I want to see
• 26:29
  Speaker 1: in Paradise since you're not going there, But I'm going
• 26:31
  Speaker 1: to try to predict which girl you sort of had
• 26:34
  Speaker 1: a crush on. I'm watching this, I'm interested actually, Okay,
• 26:37
  Speaker 1: So I'm going to ask you one simple question and
• 26:39
  Speaker 1: then the duct from there. Who is your celebrity crush? Oh?
• 26:43
  Speaker 1: This is interesting, it's changed recently, gal Gado. Okay, that's
• 26:47
  Speaker 1: a great crush to have. And I would say you
• 26:52
  Speaker 1: would have been most into, not one that I would actually,
• 27:03
  Speaker 1: not the one that I've normally thought, but absolutely she's like,
• 27:07
  Speaker 1: she seems like an incredible person. Who were you thinking of? Um? So,
• 27:12
  Speaker 1: I like I do my like show, and I've talked
• 27:16
  Speaker 1: about DEMI seems very like. I like somebody who's really spunky,
• 27:21
  Speaker 1: like I talked about that earlier, right, so somebody who
• 27:23
  Speaker 1: can give it back that's really important. And she definitely
• 27:26
  Speaker 1: gives it back. Yeah, exactly, and her and then for
• 27:30
  Speaker 1: some reason at lease, yeah totally was. I think she's
• 27:34
  Speaker 1: just like gorgeous and seems like a great person. Yeah,
• 27:37
  Speaker 1: it's too bad we didn't get to see more of her,
• 27:39
  Speaker 1: but obviously I couldn't go from Galcado to no, you know,
• 27:46
  Speaker 1: they're not related. But I tried my very best. You know,
• 27:49
  Speaker 1: I think I think I think Ta was like a
• 27:50
  Speaker 1: great guest too, because that's probably you know in that
• 27:54
  Speaker 1: yeah classy, well put together that but a but also
• 27:58
  Speaker 1: like tough, right, yes, like a wonder woman, not a pushover.
• 28:02
  Speaker 1: Yeah yeah, perfect, she could beat some aliens up, I think. Yeah. Alright,
• 28:09
  Speaker 1: so you and Taylor broke up about a year ago. Now,
• 28:12
  Speaker 1: it's been a little bit less than a years abound
• 28:14
  Speaker 1: about ten months. Everybody always says the nice thing in
• 28:18
  Speaker 1: their pr release says that we're going to remain friends
• 28:21
  Speaker 1: and you know, root for each other. Sure, we might
• 28:23
  Speaker 1: root for each other, but is it Are we really interactive?
• 28:26
  Speaker 1: Are you guys at all in touch? No, we're not, um,
• 28:31
  Speaker 1: you know, the like, I've never really spoken much on
• 28:35
  Speaker 1: what happened there. I know she has like a lot,
• 28:38
  Speaker 1: but the truth is like I don't feel the need
• 28:40
  Speaker 1: to go into a lot of the personal details. Um,
• 28:43
  Speaker 1: but I will say, you know, it was it was
• 28:46
  Speaker 1: warranted that we really haven't talked much since then. Yeah,
• 28:50
  Speaker 1: Like it's very healthy that we don't speak often. Um.
• 28:54
  Speaker 1: And I know there's like a lot of questions that
• 28:55
  Speaker 1: go around that, and we could talk for probably two hours.
• 28:58
  Speaker 1: We could probably do an in depth especially since she
• 29:01
  Speaker 1: has her own podcast. She probably does her own in
• 29:04
  Speaker 1: depth exactly week exactly. And sometimes I feel like that
• 29:08
  Speaker 1: could be frustrating to the other person who doesn't necessarily
• 29:11
  Speaker 1: have a podcast or platform. Well, I mean you do,
• 29:14
  Speaker 1: you do have past, like you don't talk about but
• 29:16
  Speaker 1: we don't talk about personal issues psychological style, yeah exactly. Um,
• 29:21
  Speaker 1: it was frustrating like to hear all that actually, Um.
• 29:25
  Speaker 1: You know, like there was a number of calls that
• 29:27
  Speaker 1: had with people to like suss through that, and and
• 29:30
  Speaker 1: you know they all ended up at the point like listen,
• 29:33
  Speaker 1: it's up to you say what you want. Um, Like
• 29:38
  Speaker 1: I don't think that's you to to to go out
• 29:40
  Speaker 1: and and and like try to start a you know,
• 29:43
  Speaker 1: public battle over this or and and that was that
• 29:45
  Speaker 1: was the right answer, you know, the truth was I
• 29:47
  Speaker 1: was like, you know what, that's right, that's not me.
• 29:49
  Speaker 1: I'm not the person that needs to either like win
• 29:51
  Speaker 1: this or tell my side of anything, because because you
• 29:53
  Speaker 1: know what, like I'm moving past this, I don't need
• 29:55
  Speaker 1: to I don't need to like sit in it and
• 29:57
  Speaker 1: stay there. So that's why I never really like made
• 30:00
  Speaker 1: any comments or or anything, um about what happened in
• 30:03
  Speaker 1: the end. You know it Like again, it was it was.
• 30:07
  Speaker 1: It was a break for the right reasons, um. And
• 30:11
  Speaker 1: the fact that we don't stay in contact today is
• 30:13
  Speaker 1: like really healthy. It's a positive. That's good. That's good. Well,
• 30:16
  Speaker 1: I'm glad that you guys figured it out the way
• 30:18
  Speaker 1: that you know it was best for you, and I
• 30:19
  Speaker 1: think we both have different opinions on that. Yeah, she
• 30:22
  Speaker 1: like totally wanted to stay in touch, and that I was,
• 30:25
  Speaker 1: you know, not that didn't they didn't make sense for
• 30:28
  Speaker 1: the way our relationship ended, but you were to be
• 30:30
  Speaker 1: that way. You're definitely upset about your relationship ending to
• 30:34
  Speaker 1: some degree because you did go to therapy for it,
• 30:38
  Speaker 1: and we're in group therapy for a few months before
• 30:41
  Speaker 1: a couple of therapy I shouldn't say group yet, couple
• 30:43
  Speaker 1: of therapy. So tell me about the perks of couples
• 30:47
  Speaker 1: therapy and then why you want to go seek it
• 30:49
  Speaker 1: after Like what was like the real reason that you
• 30:53
  Speaker 1: felt like you needed to work out with a professional
• 30:55
  Speaker 1: and not necessarily a friend. Um. I think the couple's
• 30:59
  Speaker 1: therapy like the very important thing you get there is um,
• 31:03
  Speaker 1: somebody who's like an outside of server who gets a
• 31:05
  Speaker 1: key in on the most important thing that the other
• 31:07
  Speaker 1: person said, because like we get heated in conversation when
• 31:10
  Speaker 1: you're in a relationship, you know, and and like it's
• 31:13
  Speaker 1: easy to get lost in in like thinking about your
• 31:15
  Speaker 1: own thoughts and not like maybe what the other person
• 31:17
  Speaker 1: said that was really like meaningful to them, right, And
• 31:20
  Speaker 1: I think it's really good for like the great part
• 31:22
  Speaker 1: about group there or a couple of therapy, sorry, is
• 31:25
  Speaker 1: that there's there was there who's like, did you hear
• 31:27
  Speaker 1: this specific thing that they said? I think that seems
• 31:30
  Speaker 1: important to them and there's like a validation there that happens.
• 31:33
  Speaker 1: It's really powerful, and I like, I suggest anybody who
• 31:35
  Speaker 1: is like trying to make something work that they seek
• 31:38
  Speaker 1: that out. UM. And then you know, personal therapy is UM.
• 31:43
  Speaker 1: I think it's something that almost any everybody should be
• 31:46
  Speaker 1: doing anyway, and then right we all like where people,
• 31:51
  Speaker 1: we all have we all have issues. And I think
• 31:53
  Speaker 1: for me it was just like a really good way
• 31:54
  Speaker 1: for me to um here like like these are people
• 31:58
  Speaker 1: who have spent year studying why we think the way
• 32:02
  Speaker 1: we do, you know, and then they're like there's all
• 32:04
  Speaker 1: these little again. It's like it's like separation from the
• 32:08
  Speaker 1: things that anger us or like make us really emotional
• 32:11
  Speaker 1: and and into like but does this really matter or
• 32:14
  Speaker 1: like what is the important part of it? So I
• 32:16
  Speaker 1: think it helped me really like define a clear next
• 32:19
  Speaker 1: step and and why like things happen the way they did,
• 32:22
  Speaker 1: as well as like being happy and positive from from
• 32:25
  Speaker 1: the ending of that. You talked to us Weekly about
• 32:27
  Speaker 1: it a couple of months ago, And what I do
• 32:29
  Speaker 1: love in that article is that you mentioned that you
• 32:31
  Speaker 1: didn't want to just commiserate with friends and like just
• 32:34
  Speaker 1: feel sappy and just talk about what you were so
• 32:37
  Speaker 1: sad about. You wanted to like kind of use it
• 32:39
  Speaker 1: as a way to move on. Yeah, I feel like friends,
• 32:42
  Speaker 1: Like a lot of times I love all my friends,
• 32:45
  Speaker 1: but they tend to just like say the same thing
• 32:47
  Speaker 1: that you're that you're thinking or or just just be like, yeah,
• 32:51
  Speaker 1: that she's horrible, you know what I mean, But that's
• 32:53
  Speaker 1: not like really what you need to keep moving forward.
• 32:56
  Speaker 1: So that's a great it's a great solution to that problem.
• 32:59
  Speaker 1: I think more people should go to therapy have to
• 33:00
  Speaker 1: break up. It would probably be very helpful and cut
• 33:03
  Speaker 1: the recovery time in half, I would hope. And and like,
• 33:07
  Speaker 1: you know, don't backslide and text that X wa what
• 33:10
  Speaker 1: do you mean to go backslide and text about text
• 33:13
  Speaker 1: that X? I mean, don't text the X. No, no, no,
• 33:16
  Speaker 1: that just puts you back again. All Right, Well, Derek,
• 33:18
  Speaker 1: thank you so much. Thanks actually for having me and
• 33:21
  Speaker 1: um stupid. We won't see you in Paradise, but thanks
• 33:24
  Speaker 1: for being so honest about it. Yeah, and you'll be
• 33:27
  Speaker 1: a liar if we see you there. I've been known
• 33:31
  Speaker 1: to lie like white lies in the past, So all right,
• 33:34
  Speaker 1: so I won't keep you to here work, all right, bye, Derek,
• 33:37
  Speaker 1: Thank you so much. So you guys, we have memo
• 33:42
  Speaker 1: John here, which oddly we went through an entire Paradise
• 33:48
  Speaker 1: season in which you were like the main man, the
• 33:53
  Speaker 1: main man be both sought after dated man and paradise
• 33:57
  Speaker 1: and we still didn't have you on, which is crazy.
• 33:59
  Speaker 1: So well, I'm said, they almost miss podcast. Thank you
• 34:01
  Speaker 1: for having me. I have a good amount of questions
• 34:05
  Speaker 1: for you right now. You have a girlfriend. Sorry to
• 34:08
  Speaker 1: all you girls out there that we're looking to date
• 34:11
  Speaker 1: Vemo John, Yes, tell us about how you met her? Yes,
• 34:15
  Speaker 1: So Brittany is amazing. She we met actually several years
• 34:21
  Speaker 1: ago through work, and we didn't really get a chance
• 34:27
  Speaker 1: to hang out much or get to know each other
• 34:28
  Speaker 1: too much until I would honestly say, like around bachelorette time,
• 34:34
  Speaker 1: and we were good friends. We started becoming good friends
• 34:37
  Speaker 1: around that time because she was like, hey, I'm a
• 34:40
  Speaker 1: big fan of the show and I'd love to see
• 34:42
  Speaker 1: you get on because we were starting to become friends.
• 34:44
  Speaker 1: She helped me get on. Then she uh also enjoyed
• 34:52
  Speaker 1: getting to like just be part of that experience and
• 34:54
  Speaker 1: see a friend go on the show. Then I went
• 34:56
  Speaker 1: on Paradise, and I think we continued hanging out as
• 34:59
  Speaker 1: friends and then realized that we were more than friends,
• 35:03
  Speaker 1: and so that happened towards like later after the show ended,
• 35:10
  Speaker 1: and we started dating after that. Crazy you think that
• 35:13
  Speaker 1: she developed a crush on you through seeing how sought
• 35:16
  Speaker 1: after you were on Paradise. He was like, wait a second,
• 35:19
  Speaker 1: this guy's my friend and every other girl wants him,
• 35:23
  Speaker 1: and I just realized I want him to I don't
• 35:26
  Speaker 1: know if any part of the show influenced how she
• 35:31
  Speaker 1: felt about me, because we knew each other before the
• 35:34
  Speaker 1: show ever happened, so she got to see me before
• 35:37
  Speaker 1: the show, and I like to think that she already
• 35:39
  Speaker 1: thought I was kind of an awesome person before the show,
• 35:42
  Speaker 1: So hopefully the show didn't have any sort of impact
• 35:45
  Speaker 1: on her. If it did, I'm hoping that it was
• 35:48
  Speaker 1: also just a positive impact. Um. But we're we're in
• 35:52
  Speaker 1: a good place now and I'm really happy about that.
• 35:55
  Speaker 1: So you were the guy that every girl asked out
• 35:58
  Speaker 1: last year? Quickly, what why do you think that was?
• 36:03
  Speaker 1: I came in with a completely open mind, and I
• 36:08
  Speaker 1: put myself out there to go meet everybody, so you
• 36:11
  Speaker 1: could talk to any of the women out there, and
• 36:14
  Speaker 1: I was like, Hey, I'm John, Let's go chat for
• 36:17
  Speaker 1: half an hour an hour on the beach and let's
• 36:19
  Speaker 1: just hang out and if there's some kind of connection
• 36:22
  Speaker 1: or vibe there, let's just keep hanging out. And I
• 36:25
  Speaker 1: didn't really try to let my nerves kick in or
• 36:30
  Speaker 1: let myself talk myself out of hanging out with anybody.
• 36:33
  Speaker 1: And I really just wanted to see what could happen,
• 36:36
  Speaker 1: and so I didn't have expectations and that was the
• 36:39
  Speaker 1: best part of it. I know that we don't really
• 36:40
  Speaker 1: know Hannah's cast of guys yet, but is there a
• 36:44
  Speaker 1: guy from the franchise that you can foresee being you
• 36:47
  Speaker 1: this coming Paradise season? You know, to be honest, I
• 36:51
  Speaker 1: didn't watch any of the opening guys from Hannah season,
• 36:55
  Speaker 1: so I don't know. You were like such a good
• 36:58
  Speaker 1: friend last season. I feel like all the girls kind
• 37:00
  Speaker 1: of wanted to date you because they all just liked
• 37:03
  Speaker 1: being around you, and I felt like you were just
• 37:06
  Speaker 1: like Mr. What was Sandra Bullock? And mh you're Miss Congeniality.
• 37:12
  Speaker 1: You're Mr. Congeniality. So who do you keep in touch
• 37:18
  Speaker 1: with the most? Yeah, I definitely so. Blake was not
• 37:23
  Speaker 1: somebody that I came on Paradise on my season, but
• 37:27
  Speaker 1: I've definitely kept in touch with Blake a lot. Another
• 37:30
  Speaker 1: friend of mine was Garrett, and I kept in touch
• 37:34
  Speaker 1: quite a bit with Clay and Chris. So um. A
• 37:39
  Speaker 1: lot of folks I've met through the show are not
• 37:41
  Speaker 1: people that I would have met otherwise. Like I'm kind
• 37:44
  Speaker 1: of in my tech bubble in SF, and I have
• 37:48
  Speaker 1: retained my job both before and after, and these are
• 37:53
  Speaker 1: people that I wouldn't traditionally meet otherwise, and I've what's
• 37:56
  Speaker 1: one of the things I've been most grateful about is
• 37:58
  Speaker 1: it's like introduced me to people that I wouldn't normally
• 38:01
  Speaker 1: hang out with otherwise, and I think that's been pretty awesome.
• 38:05
  Speaker 1: I one person I really liked who I felt like
• 38:08
  Speaker 1: influenced me a lot on Paradise was Kevin and he
• 38:13
  Speaker 1: was like almost a good mentor for me and just
• 38:16
  Speaker 1: like help me think about things or talk about things
• 38:19
  Speaker 1: differently from a perspective that I hadn't seen before. And
• 38:23
  Speaker 1: it's something that I appreciated because I felt like he
• 38:25
  Speaker 1: was kind of like a brother to me on the show.
• 38:27
  Speaker 1: That's nice. Um, what about let's go visit let's go
• 38:32
  Speaker 1: revisit the Clay thing for a second. Not only were
• 38:35
  Speaker 1: you friends with Clay on your season The Bachelorette, but
• 38:38
  Speaker 1: you were also friends with Angela definitely in Paradise, and
• 38:43
  Speaker 1: it seems like they have broken up. We don't have
• 38:45
  Speaker 1: any confirmation of this, but do you know from your
• 38:48
  Speaker 1: own personal sources. I Uh, your sources are as good
• 38:53
  Speaker 1: as mine, and I haven't heard anything. So uh, you
• 38:58
  Speaker 1: know you haven't heard anything. MoMA. How in touch with
• 39:01
  Speaker 1: you are? Are you with Clay? My My goal is
• 39:04
  Speaker 1: to be on both of their sides as their friends,
• 39:06
  Speaker 1: and I want the best for them. I know that
• 39:09
  Speaker 1: they weren't co located in the same location, so any
• 39:13
  Speaker 1: sort of long distance relationship can be really hard. Was
• 39:15
  Speaker 1: he still trying to get into the NFL? Is he's
• 39:17
  Speaker 1: still working at that? I know Clay works out quite
• 39:20
  Speaker 1: a bit and he is an incredibly athletic guy. So
• 39:23
  Speaker 1: I see him at the gym like at least twice
• 39:25
  Speaker 1: a day every day. And my last question for you
• 39:28
  Speaker 1: is you have this nickname Venmo John because you were
• 39:32
  Speaker 1: one of the first people who worked at Venmo. You
• 39:34
  Speaker 1: did coding for them. I was an engineer there. Yeah, okay,
• 39:37
  Speaker 1: So what did you do before you went on the show?
• 39:41
  Speaker 1: And what do you do now? So? I was an
• 39:44
  Speaker 1: engineer at Venmo for about five years UM and then
• 39:47
  Speaker 1: in a small startup and started by the founder of
• 39:50
  Speaker 1: venmouled Finn, and a few weeks ago I started a
• 39:55
  Speaker 1: new job at a Sanna and it's work management software.
• 40:00
  Speaker 1: So still within the tech realm in Silicon Valley, and
• 40:06
  Speaker 1: it's a really good group of folks. So I'm still
• 40:08
  Speaker 1: very much in the tech scene. I'm an engineer and
• 40:12
  Speaker 1: engineering manager there. So um, I've still very much kept
• 40:15
  Speaker 1: my roots in what I enjoy and find passion in,
• 40:18
  Speaker 1: which is in engineering. Awesome, all right, well, thank you
• 40:21
  Speaker 1: for joining us for the first time, Venmo John, And
• 40:24
  Speaker 1: I'm sorry for calling you Venmo John, because I know
• 40:25
  Speaker 1: that you don't really like that. Dude. I don't know
• 40:27
  Speaker 1: where it came from that I don't like it because
• 40:30
  Speaker 1: I have I'm in different like about the name. If
• 40:33
  Speaker 1: I heard earlier somebody said like, sorry, I know you
• 40:35
  Speaker 1: don't like that. It's been calling poor Venmo John Venmo
• 40:38
  Speaker 1: John like for two days now. And then somebody I said, oh,
• 40:42
  Speaker 1: can you wait here for Derek and Venmo John? And
• 40:44
  Speaker 1: she does I need to Venmo? Who was? I just
• 40:49
  Speaker 1: think it's funny because I don't work at Venmo anymore.
• 40:52
  Speaker 1: And it's well, you know what, You've been giving them
• 40:55
  Speaker 1: a ton of publicity. They've gotten gotten a lot of
• 40:58
  Speaker 1: free publicity. They put me in ads in the New
• 41:00
  Speaker 1: York City subways though, So I thought that was awesome.
• 41:02
  Speaker 1: That was so cool that people would text me out
• 41:06
  Speaker 1: of the blue that I haven't seen from a long
• 41:08
  Speaker 1: time and they're like, hey, I saw you in you know,
• 41:10
  Speaker 1: the J Street chain station. I'm like, WHOA, I didn't
• 41:13
  Speaker 1: even know I was there. Yeah. A lot of you
• 41:15
  Speaker 1: know moms out there who are like, what are what's venmo? Well,
• 41:19
  Speaker 1: you taught them what veno was and you probably changed
• 41:22
  Speaker 1: their life when it comes to going out to eat
• 41:24
  Speaker 1: with their friends. Keep using it. Send your college kids money,
• 41:27
  Speaker 1: all right, thank you, Josh. Okay, Now we are joined.
• 41:32
  Speaker 1: Is this like one of those roulette versions of the
• 41:35
  Speaker 1: podcast that we do sometimes, especially around finale season. We're
• 41:38
  Speaker 1: doing it today on the NAPA Valley Wine Train. Our
• 41:42
  Speaker 1: next guest is Vanessa, and Vanessa usually been on this
• 41:46
  Speaker 1: podcast once. I think I replaced you when you were
• 41:51
  Speaker 1: on Winner Games. Yeah, so I never did it, Oh
• 41:54
  Speaker 1: well I did. I think once I came in for
• 41:56
  Speaker 1: like five minutes to talk. I remember what I came
• 41:58
  Speaker 1: in to talk about with you and Ben you called
• 42:00
  Speaker 1: me in, but I never was face to face with
• 42:03
  Speaker 1: you doing the podcast. It feels different, all right. So
• 42:07
  Speaker 1: you are the host You're one third of the host
• 42:10
  Speaker 1: for Help I Suck a Dating, which is funny because
• 42:12
  Speaker 1: it's a panel of you, Jared and Dean and uh,
• 42:16
  Speaker 1: two of you are in relationships and now one just
• 42:19
  Speaker 1: sucks at dating. It's so funny. So Diana was the
• 42:21
  Speaker 1: one that started the podcast, and then Jared came on,
• 42:24
  Speaker 1: and then I came on, and we were all basically
• 42:26
  Speaker 1: single when we first started, and then Jared got well,
• 42:29
  Speaker 1: you guys got engaged, and now I'm in a committed relationship.
• 42:33
  Speaker 1: It's fairly it's still fairly new. It's still like a
• 42:35
  Speaker 1: couple of months, but I feel really good about this relationship.
• 42:39
  Speaker 1: I don't want to jinx it. Okay. So I know
• 42:42
  Speaker 1: a lot of the things that are talked about in
• 42:44
  Speaker 1: your podcast because sometimes Jarard will bring the topics home
• 42:46
  Speaker 1: and be like, what do you think about this? Because
• 42:48
  Speaker 1: you guys often don't agree, and that's a good thing
• 42:50
  Speaker 1: for the podcast. One of the things I could not
• 42:53
  Speaker 1: believe was that you like your boyfriend to keep the
• 42:58
  Speaker 1: bathroom door open. Yes, And I was just like, before
• 43:01
  Speaker 1: coming on, I was like, guys, I didn't take my
• 43:04
  Speaker 1: I know he said that, and I was like, I
• 43:06
  Speaker 1: appreciate that. Because like I had to go to the
• 43:08
  Speaker 1: room for a similar reason. But um, I'm pretty open
• 43:15
  Speaker 1: with Jared about like the potty stuff now. I mean,
• 43:17
  Speaker 1: when you live in an apartment together, it's kind of
• 43:19
  Speaker 1: hard to hide it. Yeah, I mean you try to
• 43:22
  Speaker 1: be as discreet as as possible for me at least,
• 43:25
  Speaker 1: but like it's nothing I feel they need to like
• 43:27
  Speaker 1: turn on the shower in order to go anymore. Like now,
• 43:31
  Speaker 1: that's what I used to do. Yeah, especially when we
• 43:34
  Speaker 1: when we were first together, before we started living together,
• 43:37
  Speaker 1: I would all I would never go, never go potty
• 43:40
  Speaker 1: with him there, unless I was taking a shower and
• 43:43
  Speaker 1: doing it at the same time, so you would hold
• 43:45
  Speaker 1: it in. I don't know that I really have to
• 43:49
  Speaker 1: have the Yeah, I guess so, well, look, I guess
• 43:52
  Speaker 1: so I'm my my boyfriend is he's like a little
• 43:57
  Speaker 1: weirded out by the fact that because I've been in
• 43:59
  Speaker 1: relationships where you would oh yeah, I'm like, I don't care,
• 44:06
  Speaker 1: se I don't like that at all. Like I'm okay
• 44:08
  Speaker 1: with being open about like this is what I have
• 44:09
  Speaker 1: to go do, but I can't imagine doing it with
• 44:12
  Speaker 1: somebody else in the room, like not even my sister,
• 44:15
  Speaker 1: Like I've mastered it. There's so many tricks to it,
• 44:19
  Speaker 1: so I can face time someone and I'm like going
• 44:22
  Speaker 1: to the bathroom, but like it's like I'm I know
• 44:25
  Speaker 1: it's about to drop, but I just put myself on mute. Okay,
• 44:28
  Speaker 1: But but why why do you want your boyfriend to
• 44:31
  Speaker 1: keep the door open when he's going Because I get
• 44:33
  Speaker 1: for like, in an intense conversation, he's like, I gotta
• 44:35
  Speaker 1: go to the bathroom, Like we'll just leave the door
• 44:37
  Speaker 1: open and we'll talk. Stop. How many intense conversations you have?
• 44:41
  Speaker 1: So many were still getting to get exits himself to
• 44:44
  Speaker 1: go potty, and then you are so fresh in a relationship,
• 44:47
  Speaker 1: and yet you tell him to not keeping that's the same.
• 44:51
  Speaker 1: I'm like if if he can't handle that, then like
• 44:54
  Speaker 1: I'm the type of person like I've been in relationships
• 44:57
  Speaker 1: and you've seen like my relationships fail like publicly or whatever,
• 45:01
  Speaker 1: and I'm someone that needs to know the person fully
• 45:06
  Speaker 1: and not like if I'm meeting you, I don't want
• 45:08
  Speaker 1: you to tell me something about yourself in six months
• 45:10
  Speaker 1: from now. Like whatever you think you're gonna tell me
• 45:12
  Speaker 1: in six months, just tell it to me now. And
• 45:13
  Speaker 1: I find that so attractive and like when someone is
• 45:16
  Speaker 1: so authentically themselves, whether that's like something that they've done
• 45:19
  Speaker 1: in the past that they're really ashamed of, and if
• 45:22
  Speaker 1: they're honest about it and they own it, I'm like,
• 45:23
  Speaker 1: that's so hot. So like the same thing with like
• 45:26
  Speaker 1: the bathroom like whatever, like everyone goes no shame, like
• 45:29
  Speaker 1: God forbid, knock on wood. I get sick one day
• 45:32
  Speaker 1: and you know, well, Jared's seen me throw up before,
• 45:35
  Speaker 1: like he's seen vomit come out of my mouth twice.
• 45:39
  Speaker 1: It's not that's when vomit comes out of well yeah,
• 45:42
  Speaker 1: I know, but like he he hasn't just heard me
• 45:44
  Speaker 1: in the bathroom, like he's like the waterfall. I just
• 45:48
  Speaker 1: I don't think we're ever going to see eye to
• 45:49
  Speaker 1: eye on this. I'm never going to be comfortable with
• 45:51
  Speaker 1: my significant I want, you know, I don't want anybody
• 45:54
  Speaker 1: got to go I know, the door. I don't like
• 45:58
  Speaker 1: the thought of anyone going around me. No, I don't
• 46:02
  Speaker 1: have my girlfriends like my sister. If I walking on
• 46:05
  Speaker 1: the bathroom, walk into the bathroom with her going, I'll
• 46:07
  Speaker 1: be like, no, I know it's coming out of your room. No, No,
• 46:12
  Speaker 1: I don't like I don't know well, I think I am.
• 46:14
  Speaker 1: I'm different, though a lot of people are like that's
• 46:16
  Speaker 1: just disgusting, especially as a girl like differ. It's I
• 46:19
  Speaker 1: guess like people find it weird, but I'm also someone
• 46:22
  Speaker 1: like I don't know. Like if I'm showering and I'm
• 46:25
  Speaker 1: like I want my boyfriend to be in the room
• 46:27
  Speaker 1: with me, he'll like lie down and like we'll have
• 46:29
  Speaker 1: like a conversation as I'm showering and he's in the
• 46:31
  Speaker 1: bathroom like just hanging out with me. What's so funny
• 46:34
  Speaker 1: is that you keep talking about this need to talk,
• 46:37
  Speaker 1: like even it into the bathroom and you're like, I
• 46:41
  Speaker 1: I'm lonely, like I need you to come in while
• 46:42
  Speaker 1: I'm either going to the bathroom we're taking a shower.
• 46:45
  Speaker 1: Attachment style is like what is it? There's like four
• 46:48
  Speaker 1: different attachment styles and when one is an anxious attachment style?
• 46:52
  Speaker 1: Have you ever done that? Yes, I think there's an anchor.
• 46:55
  Speaker 1: I think I'm a little bit of an Yeah, I'm
• 46:58
  Speaker 1: an anxious. You're preoccupied, anxious, preoccupied, dismissive, slash avoided or
• 47:04
  Speaker 1: fearful and avoidance. Yeah. So you can do a test
• 47:07
  Speaker 1: to see what kind of attachment style you are, and
• 47:10
  Speaker 1: I don't know, okay, but you have. You seem to
• 47:14
  Speaker 1: me like an introvert extrovert, where like you can have
• 47:16
  Speaker 1: very extroverted moments, but you actually need your alone time
• 47:22
  Speaker 1: to get compressed. But it seems like you and your
• 47:25
  Speaker 1: relationships are in constant chat mode. We are. It's so
• 47:30
  Speaker 1: I remember um the first time we so he slid
• 47:35
  Speaker 1: into my d M s and that's how we started talking.
• 47:37
  Speaker 1: So he messaged me on Instagram. We started chatting, and
• 47:39
  Speaker 1: from that day on, we've literally every like, if we're
• 47:44
  Speaker 1: not together, we're texting each other. If we're not together,
• 47:46
  Speaker 1: we're FaceTime. There's something that that's constantly we need to
• 47:48
  Speaker 1: be updating each other. It's also the beginning of a relationship.
• 47:52
  Speaker 1: It's so fresh, it's so fun, Like you constantly want
• 47:55
  Speaker 1: to be next to each other, and you have so
• 47:57
  Speaker 1: much to share and so much to get to know
• 47:58
  Speaker 1: about each other. So yeah, I want to be pooping
• 48:00
  Speaker 1: with him with the door open because I'm like, I
• 48:02
  Speaker 1: have more to tell you, there's more to get to know.
• 48:04
  Speaker 1: Oh my gosh. Okay, now this is a topic. I
• 48:07
  Speaker 1: do need to hear your point of view about audience,
• 48:12
  Speaker 1: so email your thoughts to Ben and Ashley at I
• 48:15
  Speaker 1: heart media dot com. I need to see how many
• 48:18
  Speaker 1: of you are No one isn't agree with me. Okay,
• 48:21
  Speaker 1: well we'll see, we'll see, we'll see, Vanessa, I actually
• 48:24
  Speaker 1: want to do a pole like count to them and
• 48:28
  Speaker 1: if you haven't, just try it and then then let
• 48:30
  Speaker 1: me know. Never like, I just love the fact that
• 48:33
  Speaker 1: I was able to go upstairs to the room of
• 48:35
  Speaker 1: myself and Jared is down here, like it's just nice. Um, yeah,
• 48:40
  Speaker 1: we have it. That's that's like a say, you know,
• 48:42
  Speaker 1: what I really find to be the best solution is
• 48:45
  Speaker 1: really just the match. Really the match eliminates the smell
• 48:49
  Speaker 1: better than anything else. Well, it's also like the courtesy
• 48:52
  Speaker 1: flush just like that helps them. Yeah. Both okay, moving on,
• 48:58
  Speaker 1: but also not completely so. On the podcast, you guys
• 49:01
  Speaker 1: talk about all this relationship stuff all the time. What
• 49:04
  Speaker 1: is something that you, as a girl feel like guys
• 49:08
  Speaker 1: don't get a girl girls like you're just never going
• 49:10
  Speaker 1: to see eye to eye on I think, And it's
• 49:12
  Speaker 1: so interesting. I was dating this one guy and we
• 49:14
  Speaker 1: were having this discussion and he's like, you know, girls
• 49:17
  Speaker 1: just constantly think of the relationship like you guys are
• 49:19
  Speaker 1: walking down the street and you were thinking what my
• 49:21
  Speaker 1: man is up to? Like what is my guy up to?
• 49:23
  Speaker 1: Or you're like brushing your teeth and you're thinking about
• 49:25
  Speaker 1: calling your guy. Guys are walking down the street thinking
• 49:28
  Speaker 1: like I wonder if the Patriots played today, Like they're
• 49:30
  Speaker 1: not constantly thinking of the relationship. Um. And I think
• 49:34
  Speaker 1: that's one thing women and men will never really see
• 49:38
  Speaker 1: eye to eye. And I think that's why, Like, you know,
• 49:41
  Speaker 1: I'm an overthinker and I'm someone that needs to be
• 49:44
  Speaker 1: with someone who wants to talk things through because I'm
• 49:47
  Speaker 1: constantly in my head thinking like trying to connect connect
• 49:50
  Speaker 1: the dots and trying to you know, I want to
• 49:53
  Speaker 1: be ahead of the game. Um. But sometimes I get
• 49:56
  Speaker 1: so into my head. I create scenarios in my head.
• 49:58
  Speaker 1: I'm like, damn it, I'm and crazy, and so I
• 50:01
  Speaker 1: like to be able to talk about those kinds of things. No,
• 50:03
  Speaker 1: I totally get it. You're right. Whenever Jared's quiet and
• 50:05
  Speaker 1: seems like he he's in a mood, I'm like, what
• 50:08
  Speaker 1: I do? What I do? Tell me what I did?
• 50:09
  Speaker 1: And He's like, no, seriously, I'm just contemplating something that
• 50:12
  Speaker 1: I don't like about myself. You know. Well, that's usually
• 50:16
  Speaker 1: when Jared gets down, it's usually doesn't have to do
• 50:18
  Speaker 1: it with about me. It usually has to do with
• 50:20
  Speaker 1: like one of his own insecurities. But I find you guys.
• 50:22
  Speaker 1: Are you guys like balance each other off so nicely? Yes?
• 50:25
  Speaker 1: We do. We are the perfect compliments and opposites at
• 50:28
  Speaker 1: the same time. It's really good. Um. My last question
• 50:32
  Speaker 1: for you is, well, where do you see this relationship
• 50:37
  Speaker 1: going with your boyfriend and would you ever do the
• 50:40
  Speaker 1: Bachelor process again? If this would you? Well, no, I
• 50:46
  Speaker 1: couldn't do it for a fifth time. Okay, I only
• 50:49
  Speaker 1: did it once, but I did end up engaged, and
• 50:53
  Speaker 1: I it was a little traumatizing for me because I
• 50:57
  Speaker 1: wanted to be engaged and I want to make sure
• 51:00
  Speaker 1: that that relationship was going to turn into marriage, you know,
• 51:03
  Speaker 1: like you have that scenario in your head. And I'm like, okay,
• 51:05
  Speaker 1: Like now, I'm I'm I accepted the fact that that
• 51:08
  Speaker 1: wasn't my happily ever after. Um I don't I always
• 51:13
  Speaker 1: say never say never because I never thought I would
• 51:16
  Speaker 1: ever ever beyond the Bachelor and I'm happy that I
• 51:19
  Speaker 1: did it. Um, But I feel really secure in the
• 51:23
  Speaker 1: relationship I am in now. Um. So I feel I
• 51:27
  Speaker 1: feel really good about it, So that's a non but
• 51:30
  Speaker 1: you also seem like super cognitive about it, Like you
• 51:33
  Speaker 1: seem very mentally in control about it, Like you're not
• 51:36
  Speaker 1: like super giddy. You know, I'm in therapy, Like, yeah,
• 51:42
  Speaker 1: so therapy definitely helps. Um um, and I've I've done
• 51:47
  Speaker 1: a lot of as much as trauma, as much as
• 51:49
  Speaker 1: The Bachelor was really traumatizing, it was helpful in the
• 51:54
  Speaker 1: sense that, you know, like when you're in a relationship
• 51:56
  Speaker 1: in the real world, you call your friend and you
• 51:58
  Speaker 1: call your mom, you want to get advice from like
• 51:59
  Speaker 1: certain people to see what the best advices and what
• 52:02
  Speaker 1: the next step is in your relationship. When you're on
• 52:04
  Speaker 1: the Bachelor, you're only relying on yourself. I know. That's
• 52:07
  Speaker 1: the biggest difference. Yeah, and it it felt so good
• 52:10
  Speaker 1: to just rely on what my intuition was telling me.
• 52:13
  Speaker 1: So I did a lot of self reflection and um.
• 52:17
  Speaker 1: As like I said, as as traumatizing as it was,
• 52:19
  Speaker 1: it just like it really helped me grow. It's so
• 52:21
  Speaker 1: crazy because you actually go from like not being able
• 52:24
  Speaker 1: to send a text without your sister approval, right, do
• 52:27
  Speaker 1: I put a dodge? I put an next commation point
• 52:28
  Speaker 1: do I put an emoji like to doing everything by
• 52:32
  Speaker 1: yourself and then not even having texting as a crutch. Yeah,
• 52:37
  Speaker 1: all right, well, Vanessa, thank you so much for joining us,
• 52:39
  Speaker 1: and you guys make sure to listen to her podcast
• 52:42
  Speaker 1: with Dean and Jared help I suck at dating? Also
• 52:44
  Speaker 1: here on my heart. Okay, hey guys, we have our
• 52:55
  Speaker 1: our last guest of our marathon. Um roulette. I'm the
• 52:59
  Speaker 1: last one, last of five. Yeah. Well we had to,
• 53:03
  Speaker 1: you know, finish out strong because we know that you
• 53:05
  Speaker 1: and I do this podcast very well together. You're a
• 53:08
  Speaker 1: very good co host. I'm okay cool. Why because I'm
• 53:13
  Speaker 1: the last one, You're the caboose and Beyonce's boote. Yeah.
• 53:20
  Speaker 1: Do you wanna do you want to start out with
• 53:22
  Speaker 1: light topics or dark? Not dark? Deep? Let's start light.
• 53:27
  Speaker 1: Let me sober up whilst we do this. All right,
• 53:30
  Speaker 1: this the journalists in US can go read this email
• 53:34
  Speaker 1: in which I've been really messing up on grammar lately.
• 53:37
  Speaker 1: Is this from Catherine? Do you want me to read it? Yeah? Okay?
• 53:41
  Speaker 1: Top one Catherine ash Irish Ristwatch, Irish rist Watch, Irish
• 53:52
  Speaker 1: Rush How now brown coup Ashley repeated repeatedly uses the
• 53:58
  Speaker 1: word casted, as in, when you got casted on the show?
• 54:04
  Speaker 1: Do we have like a is there a guitar player? Back?
• 54:10
  Speaker 1: The past tense is cast. The past tense of cast
• 54:13
  Speaker 1: is cast. She is repeatedly using a word that doesn't exist.
• 54:19
  Speaker 1: That's not even a question, this is just talking. But
• 54:24
  Speaker 1: did you know this? Ashley repeatedly uses the worst cast
• 54:29
  Speaker 1: when you were casting the show, not casting the show? Okay, okay,
• 54:33
  Speaker 1: I see what you're saying. I do. I say cast
• 54:35
  Speaker 1: it like to cast? Yeah, yeah, yeah, I get it.
• 54:38
  Speaker 1: Um is casted like um a fishing pole? Is that casted?
• 54:44
  Speaker 1: I don't even know you cast a fishing pole? You
• 54:46
  Speaker 1: cast a fishing pole? You're casting? Yeah? I don't even know.
• 54:50
  Speaker 1: I looked it up and it said cast. It is
• 54:52
  Speaker 1: not also did in the American Dictionary. Catherine relax, It's okay,
• 54:59
  Speaker 1: Ben says. Ben gets grammar stuff sometime too, because he
• 55:02
  Speaker 1: always still says Ashley and eyes instead of Ashley and
• 55:06
  Speaker 1: my Do you want me to do a cat No? Okay,
• 55:10
  Speaker 1: I want I'm sorry. I ruined that. No, no, no,
• 55:14
  Speaker 1: that was that was good. Um, So, Pachelor in Paradise,
• 55:20
  Speaker 1: are you going to come back as the bartender, What
• 55:22
  Speaker 1: do you want me to say here? Well, I want
• 55:24
  Speaker 1: you to just know. I want you to say what
• 55:25
  Speaker 1: you actually know. I would say, who knows what's going
• 55:30
  Speaker 1: to happen? So it's really not in stone yet. Do
• 55:35
  Speaker 1: you want me to be honest about it? You know
• 55:39
  Speaker 1: as well as I do that contracts coming in front
• 55:42
  Speaker 1: of your face about seventh seventeen hours before you fly
• 55:46
  Speaker 1: out there? Ye? Absolutely okay, So if you if you
• 55:50
  Speaker 1: film in June, contracts haven't gotten in front of me
• 55:54
  Speaker 1: at all? Right, I will say this, Um, I would
• 55:57
  Speaker 1: love to go back. I think it's a really fun
• 56:00
  Speaker 1: show to do. My ego got beaten down a little
• 56:05
  Speaker 1: bit last season because I wasn't on it a lot,
• 56:09
  Speaker 1: which is totally understandable because there was a lot going on.
• 56:12
  Speaker 1: It was a really heavy, good season. Um, So that
• 56:17
  Speaker 1: hurt a little bit, being like I did a lot
• 56:19
  Speaker 1: of work and like nothing was there. But I would
• 56:23
  Speaker 1: love to go back. It's so much fun to see
• 56:25
  Speaker 1: that all that stuff, Like you've been there, You've been
• 56:27
  Speaker 1: there a couple of times as if. I like, it's
• 56:29
  Speaker 1: so fun to witness all of it. Um, it's really
• 56:32
  Speaker 1: nice to meet everybody. But who knows what's gonna happen?
• 56:36
  Speaker 1: How would you feel about going back to a paradise
• 56:38
  Speaker 1: that wasn't a Lan's That's a really that's a really
• 56:42
  Speaker 1: good question. I feel like a lot of people probably
• 56:44
  Speaker 1: don't understand, but I think a lot of fans, like
• 56:46
  Speaker 1: if they're hardcore fans, they are interested because I think
• 56:49
  Speaker 1: Alan is kind of like the behind the scenes face
• 56:53
  Speaker 1: of it, and it was his concept. Really, So here's
• 56:57
  Speaker 1: the thing that like a lot of people don't understand.
• 56:59
  Speaker 1: But Alan is in executive producer of The Bachelor. He
• 57:01
  Speaker 1: was executive producer of The Batchlery. He's no longer with
• 57:04
  Speaker 1: the franchise, but he was my producer and he was
• 57:08
  Speaker 1: your producer as well, which is interesting because you and
• 57:11
  Speaker 1: I were on the show together and romantically involved. Um A.
• 57:17
  Speaker 1: Lawn is probably the smartest guy I've ever met. He's
• 57:21
  Speaker 1: probably also the funniest guy I've ever met. Also the
• 57:27
  Speaker 1: person that knows people in their minds, possibly better than
• 57:31
  Speaker 1: they know their own minds. He's just really good at
• 57:33
  Speaker 1: reading people and and figuring out how to talk to them.
• 57:38
  Speaker 1: He's a really good psychiatrist. Like if you've ever watched
• 57:42
  Speaker 1: The Bachelor, of the bachelorette. When someone's driving away and
• 57:45
  Speaker 1: they're crying, there's a really good chance a lawn was
• 57:48
  Speaker 1: the guy that was talking to them at that moment,
• 57:51
  Speaker 1: And if they don't seem too affected, it probably wasn't. Yeah, yeah,
• 57:55
  Speaker 1: if they don't like me. When I was driving a
• 58:00
  Speaker 1: way in mind, I wasn't crying. That's mean. I never
• 58:04
  Speaker 1: cried in the show, which is so funny because I
• 58:06
  Speaker 1: cry all the time. But then after after I was
• 58:09
  Speaker 1: done doing what I did, along got in the car
• 58:11
  Speaker 1: and then we talked and I cried. I was like, dude, dude,
• 58:14
  Speaker 1: take the tape out, let's just talk real for a while.
• 58:17
  Speaker 1: And I cried. Um. This is the last thing I'll
• 58:20
  Speaker 1: say about the show that Paradise is supposed to be
• 58:23
  Speaker 1: a comedy, and that's what's great about that show. I
• 58:26
  Speaker 1: would say that the thing that I that annoys me
• 58:28
  Speaker 1: the most about The Bats of the Bat Threat is
• 58:30
  Speaker 1: it takes itself way too seriously, much more seriously than
• 58:33
  Speaker 1: it probably should be taken. Because at the end of
• 58:36
  Speaker 1: the day, life is funny, but it's a very serious show.
• 58:41
  Speaker 1: Paradise opens up with guess what, this is silly, and
• 58:45
  Speaker 1: just so you know, it here's a guy that's getting
• 58:49
  Speaker 1: destroyed by a wave or something. You know, like, so
• 58:52
  Speaker 1: you know, off the off the that it's silly, but
• 58:57
  Speaker 1: then amazing, wonderful, beautiful things happened, and that's how life works.
• 59:02
  Speaker 1: That's how I feel like, that's how a law is.
• 59:05
  Speaker 1: And the fact that he's not going to be involved
• 59:08
  Speaker 1: makes me worried about that show. And that's not to
• 59:10
  Speaker 1: say that the show will not continue to be funny
• 59:12
  Speaker 1: and amazing and people won't fall in love. But let's
• 59:16
  Speaker 1: be real, dude, that dude that was his baby, and
• 59:20
  Speaker 1: that show is great because that man is great. That's
• 59:25
  Speaker 1: my thought on that, and I'm not going to elaborate
• 59:27
  Speaker 1: because that was perfect. Okay. Cool. You set your friend
• 59:31
  Speaker 1: Derek up with your co host Stephanie Pratt, and it's
• 59:34
  Speaker 1: really awkward to talk in front there right there. But
• 59:38
  Speaker 1: now that you're in a serious relationship, you've been miss
• 59:40
  Speaker 1: therea for about a year and a half, now do
• 59:42
  Speaker 1: you feel like it's just so much fun to set
• 59:45
  Speaker 1: your friends up because you just don't have to set
• 59:47
  Speaker 1: yourself up Because I feel like I'm always trying to
• 59:49
  Speaker 1: find people from my friends now it's a it's so
• 59:53
  Speaker 1: much pressure right. I actually hate this idea of setting
• 59:57
  Speaker 1: your friends up with people because it can only mean
• 1:00:01
  Speaker 1: that someone's gonna either it's great and they get married
• 1:00:05
  Speaker 1: and have children. That very rarely happens. A lot of
• 1:00:09
  Speaker 1: times it doesn't work out, and then you're the problem
• 1:00:12
  Speaker 1: because you're the one who created that. You were the
• 1:00:14
  Speaker 1: catalyst for the problem. Um, Stephanie. Stephanie is a beautiful, wonderful,
• 1:00:21
  Speaker 1: smart woman. Um, the problem is that she has been
• 1:00:25
  Speaker 1: in relationships with people who are for lack of a
• 1:00:29
  Speaker 1: better term, pieces of they don't have any money, they're
• 1:00:33
  Speaker 1: mooching offer and we can all kind of we can't all,
• 1:00:36
  Speaker 1: but like we can relate to that. So I was like,
• 1:00:40
  Speaker 1: who are my friends who have like got it together?
• 1:00:43
  Speaker 1: Derek is one is a great looking guy, he's smart. Um,
• 1:00:50
  Speaker 1: he's been in the public eye, so like this is
• 1:00:52
  Speaker 1: something that would like freak him out, which is that's
• 1:00:54
  Speaker 1: the thing that people don't ever bring into the realm
• 1:00:58
  Speaker 1: of possibilities of Like this is too much. I can't
• 1:01:01
  Speaker 1: handle hanging out with someone who is always being asked
• 1:01:05
  Speaker 1: for pictures and taking to them that this is the
• 1:01:07
  Speaker 1: thing that people don't understand. And then also Derek uh
• 1:01:11
  Speaker 1: it's like finance guy in New York, Like he doesn't
• 1:01:14
  Speaker 1: he's not worried about like money and all that kind
• 1:01:16
  Speaker 1: of stuff, So he's not concerned with like mooching off
• 1:01:21
  Speaker 1: of her and like surfing every day in Malibu. You know.
• 1:01:25
  Speaker 1: So when the thought of who should she date for this,
• 1:01:31
  Speaker 1: Derek came to mind, just because Derek is the antie
• 1:01:35
  Speaker 1: of every dude she's ever dated, and that was the thought,
• 1:01:39
  Speaker 1: how do you think it's going? I know, the first
• 1:01:41
  Speaker 1: date went really well, even though we had a precarious situation.
• 1:01:44
  Speaker 1: Can you explain this because I just realized I forgot
• 1:01:47
  Speaker 1: to ask Derek about this um tardiness that happened. So like, okay,
• 1:01:57
  Speaker 1: well set up the two of them and then their
• 1:02:00
  Speaker 1: first day. So it's interesting because Stephanie showed up an
• 1:02:03
  Speaker 1: hour and a halfway explain why I want to get
• 1:02:05
  Speaker 1: really close to the microphones. So everyone, here's what I
• 1:02:07
  Speaker 1: have to say. So, um, so, Darren lives in New York,
• 1:02:10
  Speaker 1: steph lives in Los Angeles. Right, we fly Derek out
• 1:02:15
  Speaker 1: for this, so right off the bat kind of an issue.
• 1:02:22
  Speaker 1: There were some logistics just getting his ass out here
• 1:02:25
  Speaker 1: comes out here because he loves his nine to five.
• 1:02:28
  Speaker 1: As we just learned, he loves it right, doesn't want
• 1:02:30
  Speaker 1: to stray. He wants we set up like a breakfast date.
• 1:02:38
  Speaker 1: I think was originally we set up a breakfast and
• 1:02:40
  Speaker 1: then step was like, I'm flying in from Hawaii. We
• 1:02:44
  Speaker 1: gotta push it back a little bit. So when it
• 1:02:45
  Speaker 1: was a brunch, she's also really nothing romantic about our
• 1:02:47
  Speaker 1: breakfast date unless you brown brown out the night beforehand,
• 1:02:54
  Speaker 1: then it's a super totally agree. So she was like, hey,
• 1:02:59
  Speaker 1: let's let's kick it to a brunch date, which we're like, okay,
• 1:03:02
  Speaker 1: totally fine. So we send Derek to the brunch date.
• 1:03:08
  Speaker 1: Of course, myself and Amy are on a text change
• 1:03:11
  Speaker 1: with Derek. Derek's like, god, here, I don't know where
• 1:03:15
  Speaker 1: she is going to order a mimosa or something. People
• 1:03:18
  Speaker 1: might be confused right now, you guys set this up
• 1:03:21
  Speaker 1: and like flew him out because it was kind of
• 1:03:24
  Speaker 1: an experiment for the podcast. Yeah, because she she's had
• 1:03:29
  Speaker 1: problems dating and I was the prad cast. Yeah, yeah,
• 1:03:32
  Speaker 1: thank you for plugging my podcast. And when does it
• 1:03:36
  Speaker 1: usually air? Every every Monday? Every Monday? You're just you're
• 1:03:41
  Speaker 1: just here with almost famous in the Monday Group. Yeah, mondays,
• 1:03:46
  Speaker 1: So he's like texting us to be like, hey, this
• 1:03:48
  Speaker 1: guy here waiting for We're like, great, she'll be there's
• 1:03:52
  Speaker 1: no joke. An hour goes by, and so then I'm
• 1:03:56
  Speaker 1: terrified because my good friend who's flying out from New
• 1:03:59
  Speaker 1: York to go in the state that with a woman
• 1:04:01
  Speaker 1: he's never met, hasn't showed up. So Sarah and I,
• 1:04:05
  Speaker 1: my girlfriend and I are walking around a uh farmers market,
• 1:04:10
  Speaker 1: and I'm like, Sarah, I don't know, she hasn't heart up,
• 1:04:13
  Speaker 1: and she's like what, no way. He flew from New York.
• 1:04:15
  Speaker 1: So it's like a thing now. So we're like, oh
• 1:04:18
  Speaker 1: my god. So I'm texting Amy, I'm texting Derek being like,
• 1:04:21
  Speaker 1: don't worry, it's gonna be fine. She's just a little late.
• 1:04:23
  Speaker 1: So then we get a text message from Steph that says,
• 1:04:27
  Speaker 1: oh my god, it's twelve forty four. No, oh my god,
• 1:04:32
  Speaker 1: it says it's twelve forty four on my phone. What
• 1:04:34
  Speaker 1: time is it? And then Amy ripped immediately responds with
• 1:04:39
  Speaker 1: it's twelve forty four. You're already late to this. Yeah,
• 1:04:48
  Speaker 1: she was, what are you talking about? So what happened
• 1:04:51
  Speaker 1: was this is what she says, you should probably bring
• 1:04:53
  Speaker 1: her on to talk about it. But apparently in Hawaii
• 1:04:56
  Speaker 1: there is no time change in terms of UH daily savings.
• 1:05:01
  Speaker 1: But apparently Steph doesn't look at her phone because it
• 1:05:04
  Speaker 1: happens naturally. This is a week after time change. This
• 1:05:07
  Speaker 1: is this is ended that morning. No, thank you. Clarify
• 1:05:14
  Speaker 1: she did land that morning, but the time had changed
• 1:05:17
  Speaker 1: a week trying to make it a better story. No, continue,
• 1:05:21
  Speaker 1: she had landed that morning and was going home and
• 1:05:24
  Speaker 1: then to the date, but the time had changed a
• 1:05:28
  Speaker 1: week earlier. I like telling it. Stephanie's down there, but
• 1:05:30
  Speaker 1: let's just tell it without her. They can listen to
• 1:05:33
  Speaker 1: the prat cast. If they should just be Mike, they
• 1:05:35
  Speaker 1: should be mic job right now on their second day,
• 1:05:38
  Speaker 1: which is happening to the other by the way, they're
• 1:05:39
  Speaker 1: sitting next to each other, super kid, and I keep
• 1:05:42
  Speaker 1: looking under the table to see if they're holding hands.
• 1:05:45
  Speaker 1: There's been some touching, yeah, but tune into the prat
• 1:05:47
  Speaker 1: cast for more on that. So anyways, she shows up
• 1:05:50
  Speaker 1: like an hour and a half late. By this time,
• 1:05:52
  Speaker 1: Derek's wasted because he's been sitting around. He's been texting
• 1:05:55
  Speaker 1: me being like what do I do? And I'm like
• 1:05:57
  Speaker 1: I just ordinary drank, dude, I don't know how to
• 1:05:58
  Speaker 1: tell you. And there was a time, there was a
• 1:06:00
  Speaker 1: there was a serious moment in time where we were
• 1:06:03
  Speaker 1: both like, dude, five minutes and then go don't worry
• 1:06:06
  Speaker 1: about it, like we feel bad. And then she showed
• 1:06:09
  Speaker 1: up and then they had the most amazing time ever.
• 1:06:13
  Speaker 1: So much show that we had to like make a
• 1:06:15
  Speaker 1: whole another show, the sidebar test between Wells and me
• 1:06:20
  Speaker 1: for like the shocked face emoji just constantly like she's
• 1:06:25
  Speaker 1: so late, shocked face head exploding. Um, they're having a
• 1:06:28
  Speaker 1: blast and making out shocked face head exploding. They made out.
• 1:06:32
  Speaker 1: So it was on Patty's Day, so she was wearing
• 1:06:34
  Speaker 1: green lipstick. Then there's pictures, there's receipts of him just
• 1:06:38
  Speaker 1: having so much green all over his face. It was
• 1:06:42
  Speaker 1: amazing St. Patrick's Day, first date. I no wonder why
• 1:06:45
  Speaker 1: it was drunk. Okay, we have to move on to
• 1:06:47
  Speaker 1: they start and Derek and Steff. They're cute though, they
• 1:06:50
  Speaker 1: are very cute. Um, so if you wanted to not
• 1:06:53
  Speaker 1: just set up your friends, but set up some Bachelor contestants,
• 1:06:56
  Speaker 1: we have an email from Sarah about Bachelor in Paradise
• 1:06:59
  Speaker 1: pairings she says, I want some of the good and
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  Speaker 1: maybe slightly forgotten favorites to make a comeback on Bachelor
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  Speaker 1: in Paradise. Let's talk Hayley, Ferguson and Wills. Or let's
• 1:07:10
  Speaker 1: bring back Mark hill Martin. Maybe he will be the
• 1:07:14
  Speaker 1: key to Tastia's heart. Or what about Brian Osborne who
• 1:07:17
  Speaker 1: stole the heart of Sole my heart Andy season. I'm
• 1:07:22
  Speaker 1: not familiar with him at all. Do you have any
• 1:07:24
  Speaker 1: memory familiar? Yeah? Yeah, I hung out with him maybe twice.
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  Speaker 1: Very nice guy the first two I like, I love
• 1:07:30
  Speaker 1: going deep into the history for Paradise and bringing back oldies,
• 1:07:35
  Speaker 1: but goodies. They keep it really fresh and current. But
• 1:07:37
  Speaker 1: I'm like, go back, bring back some some yester years.
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  Speaker 1: Who's somebody that hasn't found someone? I feel like when
• 1:07:45
  Speaker 1: I go back to all the memorable girls in recent
• 1:07:48
  Speaker 1: like past six years Bachelor history, almost all the girls
• 1:07:51
  Speaker 1: are taken. Now. My thing is there are people who
• 1:07:57
  Speaker 1: go on the show and are not really emotionally available.
• 1:08:01
  Speaker 1: I think that's what I loved about you is because
• 1:08:05
  Speaker 1: you were very honest about like wanting to find somebody.
• 1:08:08
  Speaker 1: I think that's very rare, and that's what's silly about
• 1:08:11
  Speaker 1: that show is because everyone's suppostion supposed to be very
• 1:08:15
  Speaker 1: emotionally available. Like what if Vienna showed up, Well, I
• 1:08:19
  Speaker 1: would be fantastic. I used to stick up for Danielle,
• 1:08:22
  Speaker 1: my friend. Yeah, Danielle definitely. She just wants to Danielle. Yeah,
• 1:08:27
  Speaker 1: she just wants to get merried and and and she's
• 1:08:31
  Speaker 1: so smart and beautiful and like has her own career
• 1:08:34
  Speaker 1: aside from like Instagram all that kind of stuff. That's one.
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  Speaker 1: Those are the types of people that like letters all
• 1:08:41
  Speaker 1: the time about Roberto. Yeah, Roberto would be good too,
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  Speaker 1: but this is a little bit before well Roberto, and
• 1:08:50
  Speaker 1: he was a charmer and very local, but like, but like,
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  Speaker 1: is he like a guy that's willing to go back
• 1:08:55
  Speaker 1: on the show six or seven thirty four? I heard
• 1:09:00
  Speaker 1: rumors he was, but then I asked him to come
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  Speaker 1: on this podcast and he respectfully told me no, he's
• 1:09:07
  Speaker 1: got a girlfriend. Remember, I think he has a girlfriend.
• 1:09:14
  Speaker 1: I don't want to say how I know that, but
• 1:09:17
  Speaker 1: I have it on pretty good intel. I think he
• 1:09:19
  Speaker 1: has a girlfriend. How old do you think he's too
• 1:09:21
  Speaker 1: old to go on The Bachelor? Amy says forty nine.
• 1:09:26
  Speaker 1: I think you're going to start feeling left out at
• 1:09:28
  Speaker 1: around thirty seven. This is the terrible thing to say,
• 1:09:32
  Speaker 1: but it's the absolute truth and whatever. You guys can
• 1:09:35
  Speaker 1: drag me for it. But for women, probably thirty two
• 1:09:39
  Speaker 1: and exactly and probably for guys forty forty got a
• 1:09:44
  Speaker 1: four year old man? Have you ever seen the show? Well?
• 1:09:48
  Speaker 1: Nick was thirties six when he was the Bachelor, so
• 1:09:53
  Speaker 1: he was getting close. And guess what would you be
• 1:09:58
  Speaker 1: your friends with Nick? I'm just an I love him.
• 1:10:01
  Speaker 1: Would you be completely shocked if Nick was on Paradise?
• 1:10:04
  Speaker 1: Want him to be he? Would you just leaning all
• 1:10:07
  Speaker 1: the way? Would you be this is my question to
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  Speaker 1: you on your show? Would you be shocked if Nick
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  Speaker 1: shows up in Paradise? If he walks down those steps
• 1:10:15
  Speaker 1: at thirty I don't even know thirty he's gonna be third?
• 1:10:18
  Speaker 1: Is he gonna be thirty nine? What about Timber? Would
• 1:10:22
  Speaker 1: you be shocked if he did it? Um? Maybe this season? Yeah,
• 1:10:25
  Speaker 1: but not next? Okay, so that's even worse. Amanda Stanton
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  Speaker 1: showing up she's on I'm all know, but she's been
• 1:10:34
  Speaker 1: on twice, but I'm all for it. I've been on
• 1:10:37
  Speaker 1: three times and I would be down. So in Bachelor News,
• 1:10:40
  Speaker 1: it seems as if Amanda and her boyfriend Bobby of
• 1:10:44
  Speaker 1: a year had broken up. But I just read something
• 1:10:47
  Speaker 1: that they were so good about a house. I read
• 1:10:49
  Speaker 1: an e News article on Wednesday or something that they
• 1:10:52
  Speaker 1: seems to have fallen apart because he actually acknowledged it.
• 1:10:57
  Speaker 1: I read quotes that he gave or respond on Instagram
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  Speaker 1: that he'll always be there for the girls, and I
• 1:11:03
  Speaker 1: was like, well, that seems like it's true. What about
• 1:11:05
  Speaker 1: Nick and DEMI? I think it could be for real.
• 1:11:08
  Speaker 1: It's a thing ash on him a little bit. Show
• 1:11:14
  Speaker 1: definitely has a crush on him. But would Nick go
• 1:11:17
  Speaker 1: for a DEMI? Would Nick date another girl from the franchise?
• 1:11:24
  Speaker 1: That's a good question. I think he wouldn't have like
• 1:11:27
  Speaker 1: two years ago, and I think he may now. I
• 1:11:30
  Speaker 1: think that Nick's just looking for someone to challenge him,
• 1:11:32
  Speaker 1: and I think that that's someone that will challenge him,
• 1:11:35
  Speaker 1: and the thought of doing that show again with a
• 1:11:44
  Speaker 1: finish line and knowing that that's something that could be
• 1:11:48
  Speaker 1: a possibility will entice him a little bit. I haven't
• 1:11:51
  Speaker 1: talked to him about this at all, but it's just
• 1:11:53
  Speaker 1: tice him to have a finish line because he actually
• 1:11:55
  Speaker 1: does want something serious yeah, and being like I'll go
• 1:11:57
  Speaker 1: I'll go to Paradise. DEMI someone I mento, she's into me?
• 1:12:02
  Speaker 1: What if Ben ben Planic remember that guy? See I
• 1:12:07
  Speaker 1: thank you? Actually, I'd love to go deep. Let's let's
• 1:12:10
  Speaker 1: get a couple of these in there, being here in
• 1:12:12
  Speaker 1: Napa Valley. You know, we could have texted Ben Planic
• 1:12:19
  Speaker 1: Mary Mary with a lot of kids. What is Jesse
• 1:12:22
  Speaker 1: Palmer's story? Jesse Palmer is doing well for himself. He's
• 1:12:25
  Speaker 1: got like no, he's got a couple of shows out there,
• 1:12:29
  Speaker 1: then a lot of models probably all right. My last
• 1:12:32
  Speaker 1: question for Wells is going to come from a game
• 1:12:34
  Speaker 1: that we played in the car on the way here.
• 1:12:37
  Speaker 1: So we were like playing popcorn questions or whatever, and
• 1:12:40
  Speaker 1: we were like all asking each other about relationships, whether
• 1:12:43
  Speaker 1: it was like for single people or for like the
• 1:12:45
  Speaker 1: Bury Together couples. And you're in a Berry Together couple.
• 1:12:49
  Speaker 1: So you asked me and Jared he said, what are like,
• 1:12:53
  Speaker 1: what are basically something that you guys probably will never
• 1:12:55
  Speaker 1: see eyed eye on? Or like what do you think
• 1:12:57
  Speaker 1: your biggest issue is or what's your greatest annoyance? That
• 1:13:00
  Speaker 1: was what I asked. Was then we made it a
• 1:13:02
  Speaker 1: little bit deeper because little annoyances like clearing your throat
• 1:13:07
  Speaker 1: is not a big deal. Which is a funny answer though,
• 1:13:10
  Speaker 1: So you can choose. You can choose your question. But
• 1:13:14
  Speaker 1: when in your relationship with Sarah, which you know, I
• 1:13:16
  Speaker 1: understand if you want to keep it more private, But
• 1:13:19
  Speaker 1: what's your biggest annoyance or what is something that you
• 1:13:21
  Speaker 1: guys will never you just agree to disagree on. There's
• 1:13:24
  Speaker 1: a good question. And what would she say about you? Two?
• 1:13:30
  Speaker 1: We got into a big fight. It wasn't a big fight,
• 1:13:34
  Speaker 1: but we got into a fight about whether or not
• 1:13:37
  Speaker 1: you burn more calories doing cardio in comparison to weightlifting.
• 1:13:42
  Speaker 1: And I was like, you burned him so much more
• 1:13:45
  Speaker 1: calories doing cardio and she was like, well, and then
• 1:13:48
  Speaker 1: we started looking it up and when you start going
• 1:13:50
  Speaker 1: into the internet, there are things going both ways. What
• 1:13:55
  Speaker 1: I loved about the argument that we have, uh there
• 1:13:59
  Speaker 1: was no right or wrong answer. And we both yelled
• 1:14:01
  Speaker 1: at each other. It was so stupid and so much
• 1:14:05
  Speaker 1: it was laughing yelling at it actually got like he
• 1:14:08
  Speaker 1: did well. I just wasn't gonna like pull back from
• 1:14:12
  Speaker 1: like of course cardio burns more, cardio burns more like
• 1:14:15
  Speaker 1: fast in the moment, but it doesn't like throughout the day.
• 1:14:22
  Speaker 1: I think that's exactly what she said, This is so funny,
• 1:14:26
  Speaker 1: this is amazing about this, and I was like, no,
• 1:14:28
  Speaker 1: that's stupid. And then we looked it up and she
• 1:14:31
  Speaker 1: was right, like, you guys are right, but I also
• 1:14:33
  Speaker 1: I was right. There there's no right answer to like
• 1:14:35
  Speaker 1: it was so silly that she walked out of the
• 1:14:37
  Speaker 1: room because I was being me, which is very like
• 1:14:42
  Speaker 1: I'm right when i'm think i'm right, I'm then so
• 1:14:46
  Speaker 1: she walked away, and then when she came back in, um,
• 1:14:50
  Speaker 1: I was like on my phone, and I think she
• 1:14:52
  Speaker 1: thought I was like scrolling through Instagram and I was
• 1:14:54
  Speaker 1: like scrolling through articles about this exact thing, and I
• 1:14:59
  Speaker 1: was like, okay, so and I saw I don't know
• 1:15:03
  Speaker 1: this is what this part of the podcast is about,
• 1:15:06
  Speaker 1: but I think this is what's important. Was that I
• 1:15:09
  Speaker 1: realized that I wasn't right, but I wasn't wrong, but
• 1:15:12
  Speaker 1: I knew that what I had done was not the
• 1:15:14
  Speaker 1: greatest thing in the world. So I was like, so,
• 1:15:18
  Speaker 1: I've been reading about this, and I think you're probably right.
• 1:15:23
  Speaker 1: I think I'm a little bit right too, but I
• 1:15:25
  Speaker 1: think that you're right. I think that no one's right,
• 1:15:27
  Speaker 1: and and then so she started laughing and being like,
• 1:15:30
  Speaker 1: you're still doing this. I thought you were just extroly interesting.
• 1:15:32
  Speaker 1: I was like no, no, no no, no no. I was
• 1:15:34
  Speaker 1: like trying to I was trying to make myself right.
• 1:15:37
  Speaker 1: But then I realized in my research that I was
• 1:15:39
  Speaker 1: not right. And I think it's a good thing to
• 1:15:43
  Speaker 1: have an open mind about being a dip. I think
• 1:15:47
  Speaker 1: it's important to remember that we're all dip and I
• 1:15:52
  Speaker 1: was wrong, even though I don't know what I was wrong,
• 1:15:55
  Speaker 1: but I wasn't right. I wasn't right in the middle. Yeah,
• 1:15:59
  Speaker 1: And those are the arguments that like they really get
• 1:16:02
  Speaker 1: to because you just kind of can't drop it. You
• 1:16:07
  Speaker 1: just can't drop it because like if both of you
• 1:16:08
  Speaker 1: a personal right. One time I had nas. We were
• 1:16:11
  Speaker 1: ordering Joe's pizza and it was we were like, is
• 1:16:15
  Speaker 1: this the Joe's pizza from New York? And I was like, there's,
• 1:16:17
  Speaker 1: you know, the Joe's pizza, the one like on Sex
• 1:16:20
  Speaker 1: in the City and that like everybody talks about. So
• 1:16:22
  Speaker 1: there's no way that this is the Joe's pizza. No way,
• 1:16:26
  Speaker 1: And she was like it is. They came to l
• 1:16:28
  Speaker 1: A and they put one here. I'm like, you're wrong,
• 1:16:31
  Speaker 1: and then she actually ended up calling the Joe's Pizza
• 1:16:35
  Speaker 1: and they go, we used to be owned by that
• 1:16:38
  Speaker 1: company that the original guy that he was, like the
• 1:16:41
  Speaker 1: guy that started this one was not Joe, but like
• 1:16:45
  Speaker 1: Joe's like cousin or something that stole the recipe and
• 1:16:48
  Speaker 1: started it. Here he goes, so technically we have like
• 1:16:53
  Speaker 1: the same recipe, but we're not Joe, Like, okay, well
• 1:16:56
  Speaker 1: we are exactly both half right. Do you know what's
• 1:16:59
  Speaker 1: funny about both the stories? They're both the dumbest stories,
• 1:17:03
  Speaker 1: like they're not real arguments. But I think it's I
• 1:17:06
  Speaker 1: think it's fun um. I think it's it's a really
• 1:17:10
  Speaker 1: hard thing to do. Like I'm not doing relationship stuff,
• 1:17:13
  Speaker 1: but I think it's a really hard thing to do
• 1:17:14
  Speaker 1: when you realize that, like it's still so dumb what
• 1:17:18
  Speaker 1: you're doing, and you just like let it go. Because
• 1:17:21
  Speaker 1: after Sarah and I was like a stupid thing about
• 1:17:24
  Speaker 1: Carter Sarah and my whatever thanks mom where Ben goes
• 1:17:30
  Speaker 1: wrong every week? I said what I said, and then
• 1:17:36
  Speaker 1: she laughed about it, and then we had like a
• 1:17:38
  Speaker 1: really like sweet moment of I think when she realized that,
• 1:17:41
  Speaker 1: like I conceded and I was being stupid. That was
• 1:17:44
  Speaker 1: like a wonderful moment, and I think there was like
• 1:17:46
  Speaker 1: the moment everyone's looking for. You know, those are the
• 1:17:50
  Speaker 1: bonding moments you break and then you heal even better
• 1:17:52
  Speaker 1: together exactly. Yeah, And if you guys do want to
• 1:17:55
  Speaker 1: listen to Jared and I talk over our relationship issues,
• 1:17:59
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• 1:18:08
  Speaker 1: this is the conclusion of the Almost Famous podcast. I'd
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• 1:18:32
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• 1:18:44
  Speaker 1: area before. And thank you to the River Terrace in
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  Speaker 1: for providing us somewhere to stay tonight. Alright, guys, thank
• 1:18:51
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