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- 0:00Welcome to Buck Guyes Tomorrow Morning for Sunday, March seventeenth, from your host
- 0:03Tom Moore, the Akron game in one hundred and sixty seven days, the
- 0:06game against Michigan in two hundred and fifty eight days. Today you're going to
- 0:10be getting an episode of the Daily Huddle podcast. Garrett does a great job
- 0:15with that show. It's basically the sister version of this show on our other
- 0:20site, Saturday Glory, that focuses more on national college football. Well,
- 0:24Garrett does a daily morning podcast stopping if you've heard this one focused on college
- 0:29football for the most part. So all right, So day's episode is about
- 0:33Notre Dame, and Notre Dame is one of those few things in the world
- 0:38of college football conference realignment that would make a lot of sense Notre Dame joining
- 0:42the Big Ten, lots of traditional rivalries with teams like Michigan and Michigan State
- 0:47and Purdue and Ohio State, good geographic fit. It all sort of makes
- 0:52sense. So this is a very interesting episode that Garrett did a couple days
- 0:55ago that I really enjoyed talking about whether the Big Ten and was maybe sort
- 1:00of figuring out a way to get Notre dame in its conference as a part
- 1:04of this whole conference realignment thing. It would, unlike a lot of things
- 1:08in this whole conference realignment thing, actually make a whole lot of sense.
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- 1:27Make sure you check out Saturday Glory dot com as well. I'm a fan
- 1:33of the TV show Ted Lasso. I enjoyed each episode every season, how
- 1:40quotable it is. And one of my favorite quotes from the series is be
- 1:46curious, not judgmental. And it's something that I've dealt with in my personal
- 1:52life professional life, where somebody's asking you a question and they know the answer,
- 1:57and so they're not information seeking, they are accusing in question form,
- 2:01and I don't I don't like dealing with that. I don't like having to
- 2:05handle those sorts of questions. But I think sometimes it's fun to be curious
- 2:10and not judgmental. Sometimes you can become judgmental by being curious. And the
- 2:16reason I bring up be curious not judgmental is because when you have that mindset
- 2:23of being curious, wondering, questioning, asking, you can kind of start
- 2:30to see things between the lines or get in your head maybe some ulterior motives,
- 2:37et cetera. And one of the things I'm questioning right now is does
- 2:44the Big Ten have ulterior motives in fighting for and angling for more spots in
- 2:52the college football Playoff alongside the SEC than the ACC in Big Twelve That supposedly
- 3:00the fourteen team playoff is going to be finalized sometime very soon, and the
- 3:06Power five Conferences and Notre Dame are going to be in agreement on what the
- 3:10structure is. And when you put that in your head of the power power
- 3:16four conferences, I guess I should say Power four Conferences and Notre Dame are
- 3:21going to be in an agreement. That brings up some curiosity. Is the
- 3:29Big Ten using the SEC as a shield, Because I think you could argue
- 3:35that the Big Ten has ulterior motives in this situation where if you ask yourself
- 3:40just off the top. Okay, what do the Big ten and SEC get
- 3:46out of having more guaranteed spots and in their wishes, more guaranteed buys in
- 3:54the college Football Playoff. Well, one, they get more teams into the
- 3:59College Football Playoff, which is an inherently good thing for those two brands as
- 4:03a whole, and it's an inherently good thing for the member schools of those
- 4:06two brands Undeniable two. And it all goes back to, like I think
- 4:15sometimes people argue that, you know, people are driven by power, which
- 4:18is I think true at some point, but you have to get something out
- 4:21of that power. Right, Generally it's great, Generally it's money. You
- 4:26are motivated to get more money. So the Big Ten at SEC are motivated
- 4:30to get more money out of the College Football Playoff. How do they do
- 4:33that. They grantee more access for their teams into that dance, into that
- 4:38party. And when that party is handing out millions of dollars to people who
- 4:42come through the door, you want to make sure you've got more people coming
- 4:46through that door. So that makes logical sense that the Big Ten at SEC
- 4:53want what's best for their teams and then also financially want what's best for their
- 4:57teams and themselves. But the long running thought process in Notre Dame has stuck
- 5:04by this that they will not join a conference until or unless their current TV
- 5:13rights deal puts them behind the eight ball where they're not in the same financial
- 5:17stratosphere as the other power players in college football in two as long as they
- 5:24still have access and a pathway to win the national championship, so much so
- 5:29that they're willing to look past the idea that the top four slots in the
- 5:33twelve team playoff we're going to be reserved for conference champions. Therefore, the
- 5:41best to Notre Dame could ever be seated was number five, and they were
- 5:45okay with that. But if we ever got to that situation that we've talked
- 5:50about before on the podcast of the SEC and Big Ten taking their ball,
- 5:56going home and saying, you know what, to hell with the college football
- 5:58Playoff. We're going to have our own little tournament over here on the side,
- 6:00and it's going to matter more than the college football Playoff. It's going
- 6:04to be the de facto national championship of college football. Well, then Notre
- 6:12Dame's hand is forced, and in your mind, do you picture Notre Dame
- 6:18becoming a member of the SEC or a member of the Big Ten. It's
- 6:28a pretty simple thought. So is the Big Ten working in conjunction with the
- 6:36SEC in a best of both world scenario where either the options are we team
- 6:44up with we tag team partner with this huge entity over here, and I'm
- 6:51in a win win situation. Either I get the amount of teams that I
- 6:57want into the College Football Playoff, a guarantee slot with whatever else I want
- 7:01because we could team up go do something over here, or if we're forced
- 7:08to team up and go do something over here, there's that force Notre Dame
- 7:11inside my conference, which leads to increased revenue for everybody in the Big Ten.
- 7:21I think it's I don't think it's unreasonable to question whether or not the
- 7:26Big Ten is looking at this going because supposedly, you know, they've got
- 7:30a cat. We we're only gonna take twenty teams. We're only gonna do
- 7:31twenty, which I think is ridiculous. At worst, they're gonna stop at
- 7:38twenty four if slash when the ACC implodes, and they'll take cal Stanford,
- 7:45Notre Dame, Florida State, probably Georgia Tech in like North Carolina or Virginia,
- 7:53and then the SEC might scoop up some of the other remnants. But
- 7:59don't be prized. If at some point that eighteen team conference becomes twenty four,
- 8:03you get a bunch of sixteen divisions in that that's another topic for another
- 8:09day. If you are the Big ten, can you see a scenario where,
- 8:15if you play your cards right, Notre Dame is forced to join your
- 8:20conference. The answer to that question is unequivocally yes, that you can see
- 8:28that path, and if you play your cards right now, you have to
- 8:33play them right because Notre Dame has their own set of cards. But you
- 8:37know what's important to Notre Dame financial stability, financial competitiveness, and access to
- 8:43the national championship. You hold the cards to one of those things. But
- 8:52when both of those things matter to the athletic department, the administration, the
- 8:56university, their fan base, coaching staff, both of those things matter.
- 9:01It's not just a we will stay independent as long as we're still making money,
- 9:07or will stay independent as long as we can win a national championship.
- 9:11It's both. They are tied together, and if you can separate one of
- 9:16them, if you can take one of them, away. It's somewhat malpracticed
- 9:24to not do that, correct, because it is one hundred percent whether the
- 9:30fan bases will accept it immediately or not, It is one hundred percent in
- 9:35the Big Ten's best interest to have Notre Dame join the conference. You cannot
- 9:43argue otherwise from a perception standpoint, from a monetary standpoint, from a rivalry
- 9:48standpoint, from a we need to find as many big games as possible to
- 9:52produce for our television partners, from a competitive standpoint, from a brand standpoint,
- 10:00from an academic standpoint, it makes all of the sense in the world
- 10:05for the Big ten to want Notre Dame in the conference now. So far,
- 10:11Notre Dame hasn't reciprocated those feelings. But if their hand is forced and
- 10:16they have to join one of the four current ships that are still available,
- 10:20Big ten, SEC, ACC or Big twelve, which one do you think
- 10:26they're doing now? The natural response is they've already got a relationship with the
- 10:31ACC. Does the ACC feel like a ship that is floating on top of
- 10:37the water right now with no potential perils in sight? No, No,
- 10:43it does not. And I think I think it's probably a bit much to
- 10:48argue that the Big Ten is operating solely under the idea that you know,
- 10:54we'd be willing to torpedo the ACC to get Notre Dame into our conference.
- 11:00I don't think it's that deep. I don't think that, you know,
- 11:01the Big Ten is having their lawyer's pill for through the ACC grant of rights
- 11:05to find a way to get Florida State out of that conference. Because the
- 11:09first time somebody figures out the way out of that contract before twenty thirty six,
- 11:13that thing is going down like the Edmond Fitzgerald. It is out of
- 11:16here. See ya, Does anyone know where the love of God goes?
- 11:20When the waves turn the minutes to ours? It's gone and vanished like a
- 11:24fart in the wind. And Notre Dame in some of the other schools in
- 11:28that conference will immediately bolt to the Big Ten in the SEC. Don't be
- 11:33surprised if there aren't already somewhat contingent offers out there of Hey, Miami,
- 11:39Georgia Tech, Notre Dame, North Carolina, Virginia, Clemson. Things go
- 11:48south for you. We've got the framework going here if you want. Don't
- 11:54be surprised if but I just think there could be an ulterior motive there in
- 12:00how the Big Ten is swanging that thing around in negotiations, because if you
- 12:05can get to that win win scenario, and if Notre Dame doesn't join a
- 12:07conference, you're still good like if you don't get I don't think getting Notre
- 12:13Dame to join the Big Ten is the priority. I think the Big Ten
- 12:16is prioritizing access to the College Football Playoff and money. But money is grown
- 12:24in a couple of different ways. One guaranteed spots into the College Football Playoff,
- 12:28you get your cut of that revenue. And then two, if you
- 12:35can bring Notre Dame into the fold and you don't have you're not up against
- 12:39a time grunch by any stretch of the imagination. You just signed rights deals.
- 12:43You get you a billion bucks a year. But that's the next step
- 12:50to expanded revenue for the Big Ten is adding a program like Notre Dame.
- 12:56And don't mistake it for one second that if the Big Ten can get that
- 13:01done, if they can get that horse in the barn, there will be
- 13:07hard chest something to the point of bruising, because there are several schools inside
- 13:15the conference that want it and know that it's a natural fit and know what
- 13:20a financial windfall it would be for their universities to make that happen. Be
- 13:30curious, not judgmental. I'm curious of whether or not the Big Ten.
- 13:33It's sort of hidened behind a shield with the sec to say we want the
- 13:39same thing. We are both working under the same guys that we want as
- 13:41many access points to the college football playoff. And then when you get behind
- 13:46that shield a little bit and go. And by the way, if we
- 13:50do this right, the prize pig is going to be in our barn.
- 13:58They're not going to balk at that either. I'll do it for today's episode
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