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- 0:00Speaker 1: I'm Chris Hansen right now on Prime Watch Daily from
- 0:03Speaker 1: here in New York City. Chilling video, a single mom
- 0:14Speaker 1: desperately runs for her life trying to escape a rapist.
- 0:17Speaker 2: He told me to get dressed, and I was crying,
- 0:21Speaker 2: shaking up control of good.
- 0:23Speaker 1: Kidnapped at gunpoint, beaten, and course to pose for naked photos.
- 0:27Speaker 1: It's seventy two minutes of terror.
- 0:29Speaker 3: You feel that her attacker glad to kill her.
- 0:33Speaker 1: But when she gets away, the monster makes one big
- 0:36Speaker 1: mistake that leads to his capture, and nobody is prepared
- 0:39Speaker 1: for who he is.
- 0:40Speaker 4: Are you indispelieve absolutely today?
- 0:44Speaker 1: His bizarre police interrogation where the key clue is hard
- 0:48Speaker 1: to dispute.
- 0:50Speaker 5: Yes.
- 0:52Speaker 4: Then an honor student.
- 0:53Speaker 1: Graduates from high school only to be murdered in the
- 0:57Speaker 1: most vicious of ways.
- 0:58Speaker 2: Pud into something like this.
- 1:00Speaker 6: Dead in her bed, killed by a massed intruder. But
- 1:04Speaker 6: what was his motive?
- 1:05Speaker 2: The crime's passion or retaliation?
- 1:08Speaker 1: Prime Watch Daily Special correspondent Kim Goldman investigates who is
- 1:12Speaker 1: the secret mystery man she'd been meeting before her death,
- 1:16Speaker 1: and it appeared.
- 1:17Speaker 7: That she didn't want other people to know she was meeting.
- 1:19Speaker 6: With this person. Right now, let's go Jason Matower with
- 1:24Speaker 6: Prime Watch Daily.
- 1:25Speaker 1: Imus also going to from Crimewatch Daily.
- 1:27Speaker 8: Yes, let's be smart. From Crimewatch Daily.
- 1:29Speaker 3: It's Ana Garcia from Crime Watch Daily. You got anything
- 1:32Speaker 3: to say?
- 1:33Speaker 4: He is crime Watch Daily.
- 1:34Speaker 6: What do you mean you don't know?
- 1:35Speaker 3: If she's thirteen?
- 1:36Speaker 1: You're running away?
- 1:37Speaker 5: Now.
- 1:40Speaker 1: Welcome to Crime Watch Daily. Everyone, I'm Chris Hansen. Just
- 1:43Speaker 1: imagine you're walking to your car in the middle of
- 1:45Speaker 1: a busy parking lot. A crazy man drives up, sticks
- 1:48Speaker 1: the barrel of a gun in your face and tells
- 1:50Speaker 1: you to get in.
- 1:52Speaker 4: Or you're dead.
- 1:53Speaker 6: What would you do?
- 1:54Speaker 1: It could happen to any one of us, and it
- 1:56Speaker 1: actually did happen to one woman in Ontario, California. Our
- 2:00Speaker 1: nuris a Knight has her incredible story of courage.
- 2:04Speaker 3: Chris, it was seventy two minutes. A California woman will
- 2:07Speaker 3: never forget, and today she's reliving those moments that began
- 2:11Speaker 3: in this parking lot with her being abducted at gunpoint
- 2:16Speaker 3: while leaving her job. A daring escape caught on tape.
- 2:21Speaker 2: Has done or never.
- 2:23Speaker 3: A single mom on the run from a rapist.
- 2:26Speaker 2: I ran like the hounds of hell were on the heels.
- 2:30Speaker 3: But her nightmare was far from over.
- 2:34Speaker 9: My stomach dropped. I knew I wasn't dealing with the
- 2:37Speaker 9: average person.
- 2:39Speaker 3: Bringing her attacker to justice would be difficult and dangerous.
- 2:44Speaker 2: I couldn't be out in public and in a crime
- 2:47Speaker 2: watch Daily Exclusive.
- 2:49Speaker 10: Are you having regular sets?
- 2:52Speaker 4: No?
- 2:53Speaker 3: An interrogation like no other left into that Yes, springtime.
- 3:00Speaker 3: About seven years ago, Aaron Orcutt was loving her life
- 3:04Speaker 3: as a new mom. You enjoyed being a young mother.
- 3:07Speaker 2: Yeah, it's a lot of fun. It's a great privilege
- 3:10Speaker 2: to be able to be a mother.
- 3:11Speaker 3: When she wasn't busy with her son, she was busy working.
- 3:15Speaker 3: Erin was a cocktail waitress at a restaurant in Ontario, California.
- 3:19Speaker 2: At the time. I would spend my weeks with my son,
- 3:23Speaker 2: and on the weekends, I would be at work pretty
- 3:27Speaker 2: much from Thursday night to Sunday afternoon.
- 3:30Speaker 3: But one Saturday in April, business was slow, weir and
- 3:34Speaker 3: suddenly had an afternoon to herself. When she left work early.
- 3:38Speaker 2: You get off in the middle of the day, You're
- 3:40Speaker 2: excited about having the rest of your evening. You're not
- 3:43Speaker 2: thinking bad things are going to happen to you.
- 3:45Speaker 3: But something really bad was about to happen.
- 3:49Speaker 2: When I got to my car, I had a habit
- 3:52Speaker 2: of clicking my unlocked button twice because it unlocks all
- 3:56Speaker 2: the doors.
- 3:58Speaker 3: Just as Aaron opened her door, she heard get in
- 4:01Speaker 3: the car. At first, she thought it was just a
- 4:04Speaker 3: co worker pulling a prank. When did you start realizing
- 4:07Speaker 3: that this is serious?
- 4:08Speaker 2: When I saw the gun.
- 4:11Speaker 3: This was no joke. The stranger had a gun pointed
- 4:14Speaker 3: directly at Aaron. She knew hollering for help wouldn't do
- 4:18Speaker 3: any good.
- 4:19Speaker 2: It's very rare for the parking lot to be empty.
- 4:22Speaker 2: Unfortunately for me, it was empty.
- 4:25Speaker 3: And if someone did pass, they likely would not see
- 4:29Speaker 3: the gun.
- 4:30Speaker 2: He had very low to his waist, and he had
- 4:33Speaker 2: a friend behind him who was kind of blocking from
- 4:37Speaker 2: the aisle direction.
- 4:38Speaker 3: He had an accomplice. Aaron worried if she tried to
- 4:42Speaker 3: make a run for it, he'd shoot instead. She followed
- 4:46Speaker 3: his commands.
- 4:47Speaker 2: I got in the car, He got in the passenger
- 4:50Speaker 2: seat and told me to drive.
- 4:53Speaker 3: The accomplice stayed behind, and now Aaron and her abductor
- 4:57Speaker 3: were alone, leaving the mall parking lot on a ride
- 5:01Speaker 3: to Hell.
- 5:02Speaker 2: He didn't tell me where to drive, and since I
- 5:04Speaker 2: grew up in the area, I knew of a few
- 5:07Speaker 2: places where cops tended to hang out, so I figured
- 5:10Speaker 2: I would try to steer that direction. I contemplated driving
- 5:15Speaker 2: my car off the road, or ramming into somebody else,
- 5:19Speaker 2: or just putting it in park and running.
- 5:21Speaker 3: Aaron was also begging the strange man to let her go.
- 5:25Speaker 2: I pleaded with him, just you know, you can take
- 5:28Speaker 2: my car. I'm not worried about it. I won't call
- 5:30Speaker 2: the cops. Just take my car and let me out.
- 5:34Speaker 3: When he told her to pull over, Aaron drove into
- 5:37Speaker 3: a restaurant lot where she'd always seen cops hanging out.
- 5:40Speaker 2: Hopefully somebody's there and maybe that'll scare him, the fact
- 5:45Speaker 2: that there's a cop right there. Unfortunately for me, there
- 5:48Speaker 2: was no cop there.
- 5:50Speaker 3: The gunman ordered her to drive around to the back
- 5:53Speaker 3: of the building, but she couldn't.
- 5:55Speaker 2: There was a storage unit attached to it. He couldn't
- 5:57Speaker 2: get back there without a code. He was very upset.
- 6:00Speaker 2: He kept going drive around at the back, and I said,
- 6:03Speaker 2: there is no back.
- 6:04Speaker 3: Surveillance video obtained exclusively by Crime Watch Daily shows Aaron
- 6:09Speaker 3: and her abductor pulling into the parking lots.
- 6:12Speaker 2: I'm parked facing a window into a storage facility, and
- 6:16Speaker 2: there's a you know, not a there was a gas
- 6:19Speaker 2: station down the street. There's a Denny's behind me, there's
- 6:21Speaker 2: a liquor store right there. I thought there's no way,
- 6:25Speaker 2: there's no way anything's going to happen.
- 6:27Speaker 3: But Aaron was wrong. As soon as she parked, the
- 6:31Speaker 3: gun and forced her at gunpoint into the back seat.
- 6:35Speaker 2: I started crying. He got in the back seat with
- 6:37Speaker 2: me and kind of sat where my curseeat was.
- 6:41Speaker 3: He was sitting on top of your baby's seat, Aaron says.
- 6:46Speaker 3: He then ordered her to take off her clothes. She
- 6:49Speaker 3: desperately pleaded with him to let her go. He made
- 6:52Speaker 3: it clear that wasn't going to happen. This nightmare was
- 6:56Speaker 3: far from over.
- 6:57Speaker 2: He ended up putting the gun to my head and
- 7:00Speaker 2: told me to stop crying. He actually wrapped the gun
- 7:06Speaker 2: and a bullet popped out and landed in the seat.
- 7:09Speaker 2: I knew the gun was fully loaded.
- 7:10Speaker 3: You knew he meant business up next a daring escape.
- 7:17Speaker 2: I booked it out, running, crying and screaming.
- 7:21Speaker 3: The breathless moment caught on tape, and what the rapist
- 7:24Speaker 3: leaves behind, leaves cops speechless. What did you think when
- 7:30Speaker 3: you saw that?
- 7:31Speaker 2: I was shocked?
- 7:35Speaker 1: A young California mother thinks her life is about to end.
- 7:39Speaker 1: She's kidnapped and forced to drive from one parking lot
- 7:41Speaker 1: to another by a madman with a gun. Then she's
- 7:45Speaker 1: viciously attacked for close to an hour. Our nurse A Knight,
- 7:48Speaker 1: is in the very parking lot where a brave, split
- 7:51Speaker 1: second decision saved her life.
- 7:54Speaker 3: Chris, this is the spot where most of the terror
- 7:56Speaker 3: unfolded seventy two minutes. A California woman will never forget,
- 8:01Speaker 3: and today she's reliving those terrifying moments with Crime Watch
- 8:05Speaker 3: daily to show other survivors they are not alone. Aaron
- 8:10Speaker 3: Orcutt was all smiles as she left her waitressing job
- 8:14Speaker 3: one Saturday afternoon in April.
- 8:16Speaker 2: It happened to get off early. We were incredibly dead.
- 8:21Speaker 3: But moments later, the single mom's care free spirit would
- 8:26Speaker 3: be filled with terror.
- 8:28Speaker 2: He had a gun pointed at me. He told me
- 8:31Speaker 2: to get on the car.
- 8:32Speaker 3: Aaron was forced to drive while the strange gunman sexually
- 8:36Speaker 3: assaulted her. Before long, she parked in what she thought
- 8:40Speaker 3: would be a safe spot.
- 8:42Speaker 2: There's a lot of foot traffic that goes on in
- 8:43Speaker 2: the area.
- 8:44Speaker 3: Despite the businesses all around, the dark tinted windows made
- 8:48Speaker 3: it impossible for anyone to see what was now happening.
- 8:52Speaker 3: In the back of her suv.
- 8:55Speaker 2: He told me to get dressed, and I was crying,
- 8:59Speaker 2: shaking up controllably.
- 9:01Speaker 3: Aaron's tears quickly dry up when her abductor sticks the
- 9:05Speaker 3: gun in her mouth, aggressively, demanding she shut up. What
- 9:09Speaker 3: did you do?
- 9:10Speaker 2: Then he had me sit on top of his lap
- 9:15Speaker 2: and he tried tried to penetrate me, but he couldn't
- 9:21Speaker 2: do it.
- 9:22Speaker 3: But Aaron says that didn't matter. The abuse continued.
- 9:27Speaker 2: He had me, but he was taking pictures the entire time,
- 9:32Speaker 2: and I looked up and he smiled, and he snapped again,
- 9:37Speaker 2: and then he told me to smile pretty, and took
- 9:42Speaker 2: a picture of me without my clothes on him.
- 9:45Speaker 3: Not only was he taking pictures, the violet rapist started
- 9:49Speaker 3: texting the lude photos to the accomplice he left back
- 9:53Speaker 3: at the mall parking lot. The two men were soon
- 9:56Speaker 3: talking on the phone.
- 9:57Speaker 2: His friend was Mike, where are you? He goes, Oh,
- 10:00Speaker 2: don't see me, I'm right here, and was playing around.
- 10:04Speaker 2: He was laughing on his phone. I couldn't leave it.
- 10:08Speaker 3: The laughter didn't last, hearn says, In an instant, rage
- 10:12Speaker 3: took over.
- 10:14Speaker 2: He'd just stare at me, just dead eyes, and just
- 10:17Speaker 2: hit me. He socked me in the face a few times.
- 10:21Speaker 2: He had me get on my stomach, and he tried
- 10:25Speaker 2: to rape me from behind. He really couldn't.
- 10:29Speaker 3: After about an hour, the gunman told Aaron to get dressed.
- 10:33Speaker 3: Their road trip was about to take an even darker turn.
- 10:37Speaker 2: He had mentioned that we were going to go to
- 10:41Speaker 2: the desert and finish this. I knew if I didn't
- 10:44Speaker 2: get out right then and there, there's no way I
- 10:48Speaker 2: would have made it out.
- 10:50Speaker 3: Though racked with fear, she discreetly noticed his gun had
- 10:54Speaker 3: fallen to the floor and was now under the passenger seat.
- 10:58Speaker 3: She thought about the childlock on her back door.
- 11:01Speaker 2: I had childlocks on the side of the car that
- 11:04Speaker 2: he was on, and the side that I was on
- 11:07Speaker 2: was behind the driver's side door. There was no childlocks.
- 11:11Speaker 3: Just then, her attacker's phone rang again, and this time
- 11:15Speaker 3: when he answered, Aaron's survivoran state kicked into full throttle.
- 11:20Speaker 3: It was now or never.
- 11:22Speaker 2: I threw the door open and I ran like the
- 11:24Speaker 2: hounds of how were on my heels.
- 11:27Speaker 3: Crime Watch Daily has obtained this exclusive surveillance video showing
- 11:31Speaker 3: Aaron's desperate sprint to safety. What you can't hear were
- 11:35Speaker 3: her piercing screens for help the entire time.
- 11:39Speaker 2: He said he has a gun. He has a gun.
- 11:42Speaker 2: Everybody get back inside.
- 11:44Speaker 3: Aaron had no idea, but the owner of the nearby
- 11:47Speaker 3: liquor store had been keeping a suspicious eye on her suv.
- 11:51Speaker 3: He knew there were two people inside. He was about
- 11:54Speaker 3: to call police.
- 11:56Speaker 2: He grabbed me inside and he threw me behind the register.
- 12:00Speaker 2: So I just at that point I lost it.
- 12:03Speaker 3: Detective Robert Marquez with the Ontario Police Department was one
- 12:07Speaker 3: of the first on scene. He says, if Aaron hadn't
- 12:10Speaker 3: run when she did, she wouldn't be telling her story.
- 12:14Speaker 9: I don't think he was going to let her go.
- 12:17Speaker 9: He had done too many things in front of too
- 12:20Speaker 9: many cameras, and his plan was to take her somewhere
- 12:26Speaker 9: and harm her.
- 12:28Speaker 3: You feel that her attacker planned to kill her.
- 12:32Speaker 2: Yes.
- 12:33Speaker 3: Once Aaron made her dangerous escape, the gunman tried to
- 12:37Speaker 3: make his own.
- 12:38Speaker 2: He had grabbed my keys and tried to start my car,
- 12:41Speaker 2: but I had to kill switch, so he couldn't have
- 12:44Speaker 2: started the car unless he knew where the censor was.
- 12:46Speaker 3: When he couldn't drive away, he took off on foot,
- 12:49Speaker 3: quickly getting lost in all the traffic. His getaway wouldn't
- 12:54Speaker 3: last long Erica's attacker made one critical mistake.
- 12:59Speaker 9: He left his gun inside the car.
- 13:01Speaker 3: And that's not all.
- 13:03Speaker 9: Taped on the bottom of the magazine was his name.
- 13:06Speaker 9: My stomach dropped up next.
- 13:09Speaker 3: A shocking arrest that leaves Aaron living in fear.
- 13:14Speaker 2: They did everything in their power, aside from witness protection,
- 13:18Speaker 2: just to make sure that I was safe.
- 13:20Speaker 3: And a crime watched Daily exclusive. The suspect's unusual interrogation.
- 13:27Speaker 10: Was it cause you to have a hard time usually Kenny.
- 13:34Speaker 1: Aaron Orcott has just escaped the savage who kidnapped and
- 13:37Speaker 1: viciously sexually assaulted her for more than an hour.
- 13:41Speaker 6: It was literally a du er dime moment.
- 13:43Speaker 1: But now police have a suspect, and Aaron wonders if
- 13:46Speaker 1: she's in more danger than ever before. Our nursing idea
- 13:49Speaker 1: has the rest of Aaron's unbelievable story of bravery Chris.
- 13:54Speaker 3: As police worked to find the men who abducted Aaron,
- 13:57Speaker 3: they would be handed a giant clue left bed here
- 14:00Speaker 3: by one of the suspects, a gun, and it wasn't
- 14:04Speaker 3: just any gun. Kidnapped at gunpoint while leaving work here,
- 14:09Speaker 3: and or Cut was beaten and raped inside her suv.
- 14:14Speaker 3: The horrifying assault went on for more than an hour
- 14:17Speaker 3: before she finally broke free and fled for her life.
- 14:22Speaker 9: I think he was surprised that she escaped, and then
- 14:25Speaker 9: he went into a panic type mode.
- 14:28Speaker 3: But in his own rush to get away, the attacker
- 14:31Speaker 3: left behind plenty of evidence.
- 14:33Speaker 9: We were able to locate his gun, her clothing, biological fluids,
- 14:40Speaker 9: and his sunglasses.
- 14:44Speaker 3: And right there, taped on the bottom of the gun's
- 14:47Speaker 3: magazine was their biggest clue, the suspect's name. But strangely,
- 14:53Speaker 3: it was a labeling technique. Detective Robert Marquez knew very well.
- 14:58Speaker 9: Normally police officers they will put their name on the
- 15:01Speaker 9: bottom of the magazine in case they have to let
- 15:03Speaker 9: somebody else use their magazine in a gunfight.
- 15:06Speaker 3: What did you think when you saw that? I was shocked,
- 15:10Speaker 3: and his shock was about to turn to outrage. As
- 15:15Speaker 3: cops were investigating Aaron's abduction, and Officer Anthony Orbin from
- 15:19Speaker 3: the nearby city of Westminster was reporting his gun missing
- 15:23Speaker 3: or stolen in the Ontario area.
- 15:26Speaker 9: They kind of put two and two together and they decided, Hey,
- 15:28Speaker 9: this is related.
- 15:30Speaker 3: But related how detectives knew either the sick man who
- 15:35Speaker 3: kidnapped and raped Aaron had used a CoP's gun or
- 15:39Speaker 3: the demented attacker was a cop himself. Officer Orban was
- 15:44Speaker 3: tracked down to a nearby parking lot where he was
- 15:47Speaker 3: helping a friend and fellow officer find his truck.
- 15:50Speaker 9: Yes, Jeffrey Jellinick was a correctional officer for the state
- 15:54Speaker 9: of California.
- 15:55Speaker 3: Orban and Jelinek matched the descriptions Aaron had given of
- 15:59Speaker 3: her attacker and his accomplice. They even had her keys.
- 16:04Speaker 3: Aaron was soon brought over to id them both.
- 16:07Speaker 2: There was I don't know, maybe ten ten cop cars
- 16:11Speaker 2: with floodlights just lighting him up. I've never seen anything
- 16:15Speaker 2: like that before. But they pulled right up and let
- 16:18Speaker 2: me idm in. As soon as I did, they took
- 16:22Speaker 2: me back to the to the hospital.
- 16:24Speaker 3: How did that sit with you when you learned that
- 16:26Speaker 3: your attacker was a police officer.
- 16:29Speaker 2: My initial thought was, Oh, my gosh, nobody's ever going
- 16:33Speaker 2: to say justice for this because he's one of them.
- 16:38Speaker 2: I was very fortunate to be wrong.
- 16:41Speaker 3: Officers Orbin and jel Neck were immediately taken into custody. Suddenly,
- 16:47Speaker 3: both claimed they couldn't remember a thing.
- 16:50Speaker 10: Girls, Car, I don't know. Do you remember pulling down
- 16:55Speaker 10: your bets? No why they were when you guys over
- 16:58Speaker 10: by Dave investors. I don't know. Do you remember following
- 17:01Speaker 10: the grabular car?
- 17:01Speaker 11: I don't.
- 17:03Speaker 3: In this exclusive video obtained by Crime Watch Daily, officer
- 17:08Speaker 3: Orbin claims he drank too many Margarita's at lunch, causing
- 17:12Speaker 3: him to black out.
- 17:13Speaker 10: I haven't drank in a very very long time.
- 17:18Speaker 3: But what he did admit to detectives coroborated what era
- 17:22Speaker 3: and tearfully revealed.
- 17:24Speaker 10: I've been on a depressants and it just kills your
- 17:27Speaker 10: sex trap. Does it cause you to have a hard time?
- 17:33Speaker 10: I usually can't even so we have trouble getting yes.
- 17:38Speaker 3: After a short time behind bars, Officer Jill Neka apparently
- 17:42Speaker 3: regained some of his memory.
- 17:44Speaker 9: He told us at the very end of his interrogation,
- 17:49Speaker 9: you might want to look at the photos. And I said,
- 17:51Speaker 9: what photos? And he said, the photos on my phone?
- 17:55Speaker 10: Anyway?
- 17:57Speaker 3: What on his phone all the pictures Anthony Orben snapped
- 18:02Speaker 3: while forcing Aaron to perform sex acts on him.
- 18:06Speaker 9: I couldn't believe what I was saying. Just thought this
- 18:09Speaker 9: poor girl.
- 18:11Speaker 3: He sent those photos to Jela nik Why.
- 18:14Speaker 9: I think they were playing some type of sick game
- 18:17Speaker 9: and tried to outdo each other.
- 18:20Speaker 3: Even though his friend came, Anthony was sticking to his
- 18:24Speaker 3: script just a little bit more.
- 18:27Speaker 4: He's not whole you what.
- 18:32Speaker 10: I don't remember anything. He didn't hear anything here, but
- 18:35Speaker 10: all of a sudden, I don't remember anything.
- 18:38Speaker 3: Detectives say even when they weren't in the room. Officer
- 18:42Speaker 3: Orbin kept up the charade.
- 18:44Speaker 4: He got to be a kind of dream. We're not
- 18:47Speaker 4: going on.
- 18:51Speaker 3: Because he knows the camera's there. He's an investigator himself.
- 18:53Speaker 3: He's a police officer.
- 18:54Speaker 9: He was assigned to sex investigations.
- 18:57Speaker 3: Wait, he's a sex crimes officer.
- 19:00Speaker 2: Yes, what type of irony is this?
- 19:03Speaker 3: Are you in disbelief? Absolutely, And, in yet another shocking twist,
- 19:09Speaker 3: the same antidepressant and Officer Orben blamed for his impotence problem,
- 19:14Speaker 3: he also blamed for the assault on Aaron.
- 19:17Speaker 9: He claimed that he had taken zoloft while he was
- 19:21Speaker 9: drinking alcohol.
- 19:22Speaker 3: So he said the zoloft made him do it.
- 19:25Speaker 2: That's correct.
- 19:26Speaker 3: Officer Orbin pleaded not guilty by reason of insanity, claiming
- 19:31Speaker 3: the zoloft left him unconscious during the attack.
- 19:34Speaker 2: I was pissed, so pissed. So many people are on
- 19:37Speaker 2: soloft and they're not going to go off and rape
- 19:39Speaker 2: somebody and kidnap them a gume point. It was an excuse.
- 19:42Speaker 2: It was excuse after excuse after excuse, and it was
- 19:46Speaker 2: all about him being the victim.
- 19:48Speaker 3: But there was an actual victim. Aaron or Cut. Though
- 19:52Speaker 3: the terror from a rape at gunpoint was over and
- 19:56Speaker 3: her attacker behind bars, she was now facing a second,
- 20:00Speaker 3: frightening ordeal.
- 20:02Speaker 2: He was making phone calls that were being recorded from
- 20:04Speaker 2: the jail, making statements like it would be a lot
- 20:07Speaker 2: easier if the witness wasn't around. And I was getting
- 20:12Speaker 2: weird phone calls, and I did get followed on the freeway,
- 20:15Speaker 2: and we didn't know if it was related or not,
- 20:17Speaker 2: but I was terrified.
- 20:19Speaker 3: The District Attorney's office was so worried about possible retaliation,
- 20:23Speaker 3: Warren had to remain in seclusion during the trial.
- 20:27Speaker 2: They did everything in their power, aside from witness protection
- 20:31Speaker 2: just to make sure that I was safe.
- 20:33Speaker 3: She was only allowed to attend Orban's trial the day
- 20:36Speaker 3: she testified and the day the verdicts were handed down.
- 20:40Speaker 2: When they found him guilty on all counts, and Fame,
- 20:45Speaker 2: I broke. I just I broke down because at that
- 20:48Speaker 2: point I'm thinking, oh my gosh, there's an end to
- 20:50Speaker 2: this now.
- 20:51Speaker 3: Drurors rejected his insanity defense, finding Anthony Orben guilty of kidnapping, rape,
- 20:58Speaker 3: and multiple counts of sexual assault, eight felony counts in all.
- 21:03Speaker 3: His accomplice Jeff Jellinek, had testified against him in court,
- 21:07Speaker 3: agreeing to plead no contest in exchange for a lighter sentence.
- 21:12Speaker 9: Jelinik was eventually sentenced to five years. After he was released,
- 21:17Speaker 9: he went back to live with his mom and dad,
- 21:18Speaker 9: Beck East.
- 21:20Speaker 3: Two and a half years after she was kidnapped and raped.
- 21:24Speaker 3: Aaron was going to confront or attack or in court
- 21:27Speaker 3: on sentencing day. Brave Aaron was more than ready.
- 21:32Speaker 2: I got a phone call and they told me you
- 21:34Speaker 2: may not have to even come down today. They found
- 21:36Speaker 2: him dead in his cell.
- 21:38Speaker 3: Anthony Orbin committed suicide by hanging himself.
- 21:42Speaker 2: I needed that closure, and I was just in tears.
- 21:47Speaker 2: I had been right there willing to forgive him, and
- 21:51Speaker 2: once that happened, I was finding it very hard to
- 21:54Speaker 2: cling to that forgiveness.
- 21:58Speaker 3: In a highly unusual, unprecedented move, the judge still allowed
- 22:03Speaker 3: Aaron to read her victim impact statement, while Anthony's family
- 22:07Speaker 3: respectfully remained in court and listened.
- 22:11Speaker 2: No amount of reasoning can justify the horrors that I
- 22:13Speaker 2: was forced to endure that day, and those who tried
- 22:16Speaker 2: should be ashamed of themselves. I am disappointed that a
- 22:20Speaker 2: person in your position would have behaved in such a way,
- 22:24Speaker 2: and that you tried to get away with it instead
- 22:26Speaker 2: of owning up to your actions like a real man.
- 22:28Speaker 2: But then a real man would never have kidnapped, raped, beaten,
- 22:32Speaker 2: and terrorized a woman. I choose to live my life
- 22:34Speaker 2: and take back any power that your actions may have
- 22:36Speaker 2: had over me. To do so, I have to do
- 22:39Speaker 2: something that I have struggled with and never thought I
- 22:41Speaker 2: would be able to do. I forgive you, so in
- 22:45Speaker 2: your heart you found room to forgive him. You can't
- 22:48Speaker 2: move on without doing so.
- 22:52Speaker 3: Aaron has moved on, but it hasn't been easy. Diagnosed
- 22:55Speaker 3: with post traumatic stress disorder, Aaron has suffered from panic
- 22:59Speaker 3: attacks and depression, and yet this strong survivor refuses to break.
- 23:06Speaker 2: And it was either Okay, get back up and figure
- 23:10Speaker 2: your life out, or you're going to cling to it
- 23:12Speaker 2: as a crutch and be that person that's just a
- 23:15Speaker 2: victim forever. And I wasn't about to be a victim.
- 23:20Speaker 1: If he had not taken his own life, Anthony Orban
- 23:23Speaker 1: would have spent the rest of it behind bars.
- 23:25Speaker 6: The judge in the case revealed she.
- 23:27Speaker 1: Was planning to sentence him to eighty two years of
- 23:29Speaker 1: life in prison, followed by a ninety five year sentence.
- 23:35Speaker 1: Up next, a teen with a promising future murdered in
- 23:38Speaker 1: her own bed while her family slept.
- 23:40Speaker 3: I still help to clack it. It didn't happen.
- 23:46Speaker 1: I watched Daily with all new clues pointing to a
- 23:48Speaker 1: mystery man in Ashley's life.
- 23:50Speaker 11: They talk about people with double lives, but Ashley was like,
- 23:53Speaker 11: way too honest to have a double life.
- 23:56Speaker 1: Oh yeah, Welcome back to Crime Watch Daily. A nineteen
- 24:03Speaker 1: year old honor student goes to bed with a bright
- 24:05Speaker 1: future to dream about, only to be murdered in her sleep.
- 24:08Speaker 1: Our special correspondent Kim Goldman investigates.
- 24:12Speaker 6: Chris Ashley love.
- 24:13Speaker 7: Had just graduated high school with honors when a mask
- 24:16Speaker 7: gunman stormed into her family's home.
- 24:20Speaker 11: Awesome, I just see her face was just gone.
- 24:23Speaker 1: And her grieving parents will never be able to erase
- 24:27Speaker 1: the nightmare scene from their minds.
- 24:30Speaker 3: They still have the placket, They have the potific it
- 24:34Speaker 3: did it happen?
- 24:36Speaker 1: Mom Timmy and Dad Joe found it difficult to talk
- 24:38Speaker 1: about Ashley without breaking down. When they told Crime Watch
- 24:41Speaker 1: Daily special correspondent Kim Goldman of.
- 24:44Speaker 3: Their heartbreak, it's hard, huh.
- 24:48Speaker 1: Ashley held a special place in their hearts as the
- 24:51Speaker 1: only girl among their three children.
- 24:53Speaker 2: What was her role in the family.
- 24:55Speaker 12: She was like a little mama to her little brother
- 24:57Speaker 12: Alex comes back.
- 25:00Speaker 1: They say she was about the nicest kid any parent
- 25:03Speaker 1: could hope to have.
- 25:04Speaker 12: She was a sweetheart, she really was from the day
- 25:07Speaker 12: she was born.
- 25:08Speaker 1: Happy Birthday, no matter what says Joey Clancy, Ashley's best
- 25:14Speaker 1: friend since kindergarten.
- 25:16Speaker 11: Even if she was like not having the greatest day,
- 25:20Speaker 11: she was so funny.
- 25:22Speaker 1: Ashley had also done her mom and Dan proud as
- 25:25Speaker 1: a quiet overachiever.
- 25:27Speaker 2: She was very smart.
- 25:28Speaker 12: She didn't let anybody know that, but high school was
- 25:31Speaker 12: a priest for her.
- 25:32Speaker 2: Why didn't you want anybody to know shoes?
- 25:34Speaker 4: She was very sky that way.
- 25:35Speaker 3: She didn't like anybody to make a big deal out.
- 25:37Speaker 4: Of her, even with the world at her feet.
- 25:40Speaker 1: After finishing high school, Ashley happily took a job at
- 25:43Speaker 1: an Rby's near the family home in Milwaukee, Wisconsin.
- 25:46Speaker 4: While the sunning with career she would pursue, she.
- 25:50Speaker 3: Really didn't know her options were open.
- 25:53Speaker 1: And on the night she'd be killed, Ashley came home
- 25:56Speaker 1: from work as usual and watched a Packers game with
- 25:59Speaker 1: the family.
- 26:00Speaker 3: She took her shower and then went to bed.
- 26:03Speaker 1: The next thing Tammy remembers is suddenly being jolted from
- 26:07Speaker 1: her sleep.
- 26:08Speaker 12: I just stiff, can remember jumping out of my sleep.
- 26:12Speaker 4: But she didn't know what had woke in her, you know.
- 26:15Speaker 3: And I'm looking at my alarm clock and said two o'clock,
- 26:18Speaker 3: two am.
- 26:19Speaker 4: And now I'll think it back. I really believe that's
- 26:21Speaker 4: when she died.
- 26:23Speaker 12: So then I get up and I opened the door up,
- 26:26Speaker 12: and in front of me standing this person with a gun,
- 26:31Speaker 12: a big long gun, And what did you do?
- 26:34Speaker 3: I'm like, oh my god, I thought we'd rewrapped and.
- 26:36Speaker 2: Joe were you still sleeping?
- 26:38Speaker 9: She had called my name, yeah, and I said, check
- 26:41Speaker 9: on Ashley, check on Ashley.
- 26:43Speaker 4: In the upstairs bedroom.
- 26:45Speaker 9: I'm like, Ashley, Ashley, I get up there and it's
- 26:49Speaker 9: like I couldn't really see that well.
- 26:52Speaker 1: Joe was about to reel back in horror at the
- 26:55Speaker 1: sight of his beloved teenage daughter lying dead in her bed,
- 27:00Speaker 1: shot point blank in the face.
- 27:02Speaker 13: Awten, I just see her face was just gone.
- 27:06Speaker 2: What did you do when you saw that? I started screaming,
- 27:10Speaker 2: who would do something like this?
- 27:13Speaker 1: A distraught Tammy couldn't bring herself to look at her
- 27:16Speaker 1: daughter's body.
- 27:18Speaker 4: That would have made it real to me. It wasn't real.
- 27:22Speaker 1: Nobody in the house, including the love's two sons, heard
- 27:25Speaker 1: the gunshot that would have killed Ashley, fired by a
- 27:29Speaker 1: massed intruder who'd broken into their house and then escaped
- 27:32Speaker 1: through one of the doors, and Tammy thinks he may
- 27:35Speaker 1: have had and accomplish with him.
- 27:37Speaker 3: I heard something like a flash. I could see like
- 27:40Speaker 3: somebody else running in this.
- 27:42Speaker 1: But police can't say if there may have been a
- 27:45Speaker 1: second intruder.
- 27:47Speaker 2: So did you have DNA or fingerprints or anything that
- 27:50Speaker 2: was left behind?
- 27:51Speaker 3: That night?
- 27:52Speaker 13: We recovered evidence and some of the evidence we can't
- 27:55Speaker 13: disclose at this time, but there is and has been
- 27:59Speaker 13: evidence to the crime lapping back.
- 28:02Speaker 1: Milwaukee detectives had quickly discounted brewery as a motive after
- 28:06Speaker 1: learning nothing was missing from the house.
- 28:08Speaker 2: Is that a crime as passion or retaliation?
- 28:12Speaker 5: How do you think you could classify that?
- 28:14Speaker 12: I think when you have a crime like this, you
- 28:16Speaker 12: don't know for sure what their motive is until they
- 28:19Speaker 12: explain it.
- 28:21Speaker 2: It was two am.
- 28:22Speaker 13: I mean, she was asleep, so we don't know what
- 28:25Speaker 13: kind of interaction there was between her and the suspect,
- 28:28Speaker 13: or for the suspect just came up there and shot her.
- 28:32Speaker 1: But they suspect Ashley had been specifically targeted.
- 28:36Speaker 13: If it's random, that would be scary.
- 28:40Speaker 1: Tammy had described the gunman to detectives as a Hispanic
- 28:43Speaker 1: male about twenty years old, of average height and build.
- 28:47Speaker 13: We had short, black, spiked hair, wearing a dark zipper
- 28:51Speaker 13: sweater or jackets.
- 28:53Speaker 1: And police scoured Ashley's social media accounts looking for anyone
- 28:58Speaker 1: who may have matched that description.
- 29:00Speaker 13: They were all thoroughly reviewed and nothing led us to
- 29:03Speaker 13: a suspect.
- 29:05Speaker 1: None of Ashley's friends appeared to be a suspect.
- 29:07Speaker 4: Either.
- 29:10Speaker 9: We have talked to everybody that we were aware of
- 29:12Speaker 9: that she socialized with.
- 29:14Speaker 5: Interviewed them, you know, we obtained their background information.
- 29:18Speaker 1: But detectives would get reports that Ashley had been secretly
- 29:21Speaker 1: meeting with a mystery man on several occasions before her killing,
- 29:26Speaker 1: and it appeared.
- 29:27Speaker 7: To the people that saw those to interact that she
- 29:31Speaker 7: didn't want other people to know she was meeting with
- 29:33Speaker 7: this person, kind of like a secret friend or an
- 29:37Speaker 7: acquaintance of some sort.
- 29:39Speaker 1: And they would hold a joint press conference with Ashley's
- 29:42Speaker 1: family in an effort to find the so called mystery man.
- 29:46Speaker 7: Right now, we just need to talk to him to
- 29:47Speaker 7: find out what he can tell us about his involvement
- 29:49Speaker 7: with Ashley.
- 29:51Speaker 1: Ashley's anguish parents plead with him to come forward.
- 29:54Speaker 4: We feel like we are in hell and we can't
- 29:56Speaker 4: climb out. Please, we beg of you. Come forward anything.
- 30:01Speaker 6: Any information that you may.
- 30:02Speaker 4: If you think it doesn't matter, just tell the police.
- 30:04Speaker 11: Please.
- 30:05Speaker 1: But lifelong friend Joey Clancy is surprised Ashley didn't confide
- 30:10Speaker 1: in her if she had a secret boyfriend.
- 30:12Speaker 11: They talk about people with double lives and stuff, but
- 30:15Speaker 11: Ashley was like, way too honest to have a double life.
- 30:19Speaker 1: There were also reports Ashley had been seen getting into
- 30:22Speaker 1: a blue pickup truck with an unidentified man in the
- 30:25Speaker 1: months before her murder, but investigators couldn't confirm them.
- 30:30Speaker 3: We were unable to identify that particular truck or someone
- 30:35Speaker 3: that would have meant to being that person that picked
- 30:38Speaker 3: her up.
- 30:38Speaker 1: And there's still no closer to finding Ashley's killer than
- 30:41Speaker 1: when they found her.
- 30:42Speaker 4: Shot to death seven years ago.
- 30:45Speaker 13: And that's what's hard and frustrating for us.
- 30:48Speaker 1: But Ashley's mom refuses to give up hope, visiting her
- 30:52Speaker 1: daughter's grave every day and vowing to keep visiting it
- 30:55Speaker 1: until her murderer is brought to justice.
- 31:00Speaker 2: We're supposed to bury your children ectly.
- 31:01Speaker 4: She just started her life.
- 31:03Speaker 1: Usually I go every day to the cemetery.
- 31:05Speaker 4: I know she's not there.
- 31:06Speaker 6: I go there for me.
- 31:08Speaker 12: I could talk to her and feel her.
- 31:11Speaker 6: That's what I do it for.
- 31:16Speaker 1: Coming up with the opioid epidemic sweeping America, allegations fly
- 31:21Speaker 1: that some greedy doctors are cashing in on the crisis.
- 31:25Speaker 1: Crime Watch Daily goes inside the investigation.
- 31:28Speaker 5: This is extremely dangerous and people have died, people's lives
- 31:32Speaker 5: have been ruined.
- 31:33Speaker 6: That's not How many times have you heard it?
- 31:39Speaker 1: Opiate's an epidemic killing people all across the country.
- 31:42Speaker 6: Where are they coming from? In some cases, believe.
- 31:44Speaker 1: It or not, reedy doctors trying to cash in. Sarah
- 31:49Speaker 1: Fuller was about to be married. Instead, at just thirty
- 31:52Speaker 1: two years old, she was being buried dead from an
- 31:56Speaker 1: overdose of harriful pain medication called Fentanel. Is now part
- 32:00Speaker 1: of a growing concern of the drug and how it's
- 32:03Speaker 1: being prescribed. This man, billionaire doctor John Kapoor, is at
- 32:08Speaker 1: the center of a full blown investigation. His Arizona pharmaceutical
- 32:12Speaker 1: company Insists, manufactures Subsis, a spray pain medication with fentanyl.
- 32:18Speaker 1: He's accused of lining his pockets by selling his drugs
- 32:21Speaker 1: to patients who don't need them.
- 32:23Speaker 10: There's no evidence against them.
- 32:24Speaker 2: He didn't do anything.
- 32:25Speaker 1: Wrong, despite his lawyer's denial, Seven of his top Insists
- 32:29Speaker 1: executives have been indicted, including Insists founder doctor John Kapoor,
- 32:33Speaker 1: accused of racketeering, mail fraud, wirefraud.
- 32:37Speaker 4: And conspiracy charges. Kapoor is denied.
- 32:41Speaker 8: Do you think there are some doctors that may have
- 32:43Speaker 8: led to this problem.
- 32:44Speaker 11: I'm sure there are.
- 32:46Speaker 1: Doctor Nikesh SATH is also in legal hot water, named
- 32:49Speaker 1: in a lawsuit alleging drug company Insists and several doctors
- 32:53Speaker 1: engaged in a nationwide racket involving an opioid so easy
- 32:57Speaker 1: to take, you just spray it under your tongue.
- 33:00Speaker 4: How long you been in this office?
- 33:02Speaker 12: So we've been in here about six months.
- 33:04Speaker 1: Investigative reporter Dave biscobing for our Phoenix affiliate ABC fifteen,
- 33:09Speaker 1: reals doctor Seth about his ties to Incest the company
- 33:13Speaker 1: that produces substance.
- 33:14Speaker 4: You were tied with them.
- 33:17Speaker 6: How do you respond to that?
- 33:19Speaker 12: You know, so for the company itself, you know, I
- 33:21Speaker 12: can't really speak for the company. I'm not too sure
- 33:23Speaker 12: about that and being tied to it, you know, there
- 33:25Speaker 12: are legal things going on that I'm unable to speak for.
- 33:28Speaker 1: The active ingredient in subsis is fentanyl and opioids so
- 33:32Speaker 1: powerful it's sometimes compared to heroin. The FDA has approved
- 33:36Speaker 1: subscess for cancer patients. Only here's the problem. The lawsuit
- 33:41Speaker 1: alleges inces change patient records to indicate they had cancer,
- 33:45Speaker 1: but in fact they did not, then charge insurance companies
- 33:48Speaker 1: for pricey subsys prescriptions. The lawsuit also alleges incess bribe
- 33:52Speaker 1: doctors with what it calls sham speaker fees exchange for
- 33:56Speaker 1: running SUBSS prescriptions. Named in the suit three Arizona doctors,
- 34:01Speaker 1: and yes, one of them is doctor Nick Ash.
- 34:04Speaker 2: So that's that's what they really want to talk about.
- 34:06Speaker 8: No, okay, because you were the number of two doctor
- 34:08Speaker 8: according to the Attorney General's office.
- 34:09Speaker 1: So yeah, I mean you wrote a.
- 34:11Speaker 8: Lot of prescriptions, got a lot of money from them.
- 34:13Speaker 3: So yeah, so we wrote, we wrote a lot about it.
- 34:15Speaker 12: We wrote a lot of scripts, but it was a
- 34:17Speaker 12: good product, and the.
- 34:18Speaker 1: Pseud alleges all those scripts made Incest a lot of money.
- 34:23Speaker 8: We're talking millions, tens of millions.
- 34:25Speaker 5: We're talking hundreds of millions of dollars.
- 34:28Speaker 1: Whistleblower Patty Nixon worked for Inches and testified for the FBI,
- 34:32Speaker 1: claiming she falsified patient records and build insurance companies for payment.
- 34:37Speaker 5: Most of the prescriptions and the charts that came over
- 34:41Speaker 5: were for your regular chronic pain, knee pain, back pain,
- 34:47Speaker 5: menstrel cramps, not cancer, not cancer.
- 34:50Speaker 6: Was it unethical? Yes, it was a criminal.
- 34:53Speaker 5: Absolutely.
- 34:55Speaker 1: Authority say this is the call that came in for
- 34:58Speaker 1: Sarah Fuller allegedly between an Incests employee and an insurance
- 35:03Speaker 1: company rep obtained by the office of Missouri Senator Claire McCaskill.
- 35:08Speaker 1: And I'm at the doctor's office, but this caller is
- 35:11Speaker 1: not from the doctor's office. She's allegedly a rep from
- 35:14Speaker 1: the incests office. In order to diagnosis for the patients,
- 35:18Speaker 1: medications intended for the management breakthrough cancer came, but authorities
- 35:22Speaker 1: claimed Sarah Fuller never had cancer, she was suffering neck
- 35:26Speaker 1: and backban Despite that, the Mechastal investigation chose, Fuller did
- 35:30Speaker 1: get a substance prescription, only to die fifteen months later,
- 35:34Speaker 1: allegedly from an overdose of fentimans.
- 35:38Speaker 5: There were some insurance companies that started to catch on.
- 35:40Speaker 5: They would put us on hold, and they'd be like,
- 35:41Speaker 5: hold on for just a second because they were suspicious,
- 35:44Speaker 5: And then they would turn around and they would call
- 35:46Speaker 5: the actual doctor's office themselves. Then they would come back
- 35:49Speaker 5: on the line with me and they would be like,
- 35:51Speaker 5: I just called the doctor's office and they say there's
- 35:54Speaker 5: no Patty that works there.
- 35:55Speaker 1: Well eek, but Patty tells bisco bang. Those gotcha moments
- 36:01Speaker 1: didn't stand in their way.
- 36:02Speaker 5: These insurance companies have hundreds and hundreds of phone reps
- 36:07Speaker 5: that are answering these phone calls, so we just hang
- 36:09Speaker 5: up and call back and see if we could get
- 36:11Speaker 5: an easier one.
- 36:13Speaker 1: And Nixon says, Inces had a name for the doctors who.
- 36:16Speaker 6: Played ball, Yeah, the whales.
- 36:19Speaker 1: One of those whales, the lawsuit claims, is doctor Nikesh Seth.
- 36:23Speaker 8: We have employees and side and since who have spoken
- 36:26Speaker 8: to us on the record who say that they falsified
- 36:27Speaker 8: charts for your patients, for my patients.
- 36:30Speaker 12: Yes, yes, So unfortunately, if they did that, that's obviously
- 36:32Speaker 12: a problem with the company.
- 36:34Speaker 1: The Arizona Attorney General says, it's doctor Seth's problem too.
- 36:38Speaker 1: It's lawsuit alleges prior to receiving those sham speaking fees,
- 36:42Speaker 1: the paying doc wrote eleven subsiss prescriptions over two years,
- 36:47Speaker 1: but when Inces started writing him checks, the lawsuit alleges
- 36:50Speaker 1: doctor Seth wrote eight hundred and twenty subsist prescriptions, approximately
- 36:55Speaker 1: twenty three per month. Doctor Seth tells Bisco, being the
- 36:59Speaker 1: speaker fees our standard operating procedure.
- 37:02Speaker 12: That's common in the industry. It's unfortunate that it happened
- 37:05Speaker 12: to be with the company that's under major scrutiny.
- 37:08Speaker 1: Doctor Seth's lawyers have responded to the lawsuit, saying Seth
- 37:12Speaker 1: lacked knowledge of Incess's schemes and doctor seth Pel's bisco
- 37:17Speaker 1: being he only had his patient's best interests in mind.
- 37:20Speaker 12: I see thousands of patients. Only one percent of my
- 37:23Speaker 12: patients have ended up on this product.
- 37:24Speaker 4: So you stand by how you treated those patients.
- 37:27Speaker 13: I do feel.
- 37:28Speaker 1: Prime Watch Daily reached out to Incess for a response
- 37:31Speaker 1: to the allegations and has not received. Common incests did
- 37:35Speaker 1: post a pressure release on its website stating, in part,
- 37:39Speaker 1: the allegations contained in the Arizona Attorney General's complaint relate
- 37:43Speaker 1: to former employees and physicians that are no longer associated
- 37:46Speaker 1: with our company. It goes on to say we continue
- 37:49Speaker 1: to cooperate with the investigation. Incess whistlelawer Paddy Nixon says
- 37:55Speaker 1: that's a good thing.
- 37:56Speaker 5: I let this slide anymore. This is extremely dangerous. People
- 38:00Speaker 5: have died, people's lives have been ruined, and this company
- 38:04Speaker 5: did it for profit.
- 38:07Speaker 1: Right now, let me bring in ABC fifteen reporter Dave
- 38:10Speaker 1: bisco Ban, Dave, will you surprised that doctor Seth's PR
- 38:13Speaker 1: team would be so actively offering interviews knowing he was
- 38:16Speaker 1: named in a pretty big civil lawsuit.
- 38:18Speaker 8: Well, it certainly surprised us, but we were more than
- 38:21Speaker 8: willing to take them up on the offer.
- 38:23Speaker 1: Dave, what is the Arizona Attorney General hoping to do
- 38:26Speaker 1: with that civil lawsuit?
- 38:28Speaker 6: I think it's two things.
- 38:29Speaker 8: One to hold insists in their key doctors accountable, and
- 38:32Speaker 8: the second is to send a message to other companies
- 38:34Speaker 8: and their doctors for the future.
- 38:36Speaker 1: I know it's not illegal, but it sure seems unethical
- 38:39Speaker 1: for these doctors to receive speaking fees for endorsing specific drugs.
- 38:44Speaker 6: But it's pretty commonplace, isn't it. Yes, it is.
- 38:46Speaker 8: There are actually now several websites where you can go
- 38:49Speaker 8: and look up your doctor and see if they're on the.
- 38:50Speaker 6: List you've talked to the AG's office.
- 38:53Speaker 1: Do you think this is just the tip of the
- 38:54Speaker 1: iceberg when it comes to this sort of alleged prescription fraud.
- 38:58Speaker 8: Well, we do know there's a lot of money out
- 38:59Speaker 8: there between drug companies and doctors, and when it comes
- 39:02Speaker 8: to instants, there have actually been several doctors across the
- 39:04Speaker 8: country who have been criminally charged for their role with
- 39:07Speaker 8: this company. So I imagine we could see even.
- 39:10Speaker 1: More ABC fifteen reporter Dave bisco Bang, thanks so much
- 39:14Speaker 1: and will of course follow this case as it goes
- 39:16Speaker 1: through the courts.
- 39:18Speaker 10: Criminals have a seven magn heroin ethyphetamine drug dealing.
- 39:23Speaker 4: This is why heroin is an epidemic scam.
- 39:25Speaker 2: Did you claim to have cancer?
- 39:27Speaker 1: Crime Watch Daily is on the case you have anything
- 39:30Speaker 1: to say to your victims, Remember we are watching it.