Latest / The Late Debate / The Late Debate | 19 May
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- 0:00Speaker 1: Wait, welcome the late base. Thanks for joining us. Great
- 0:07Speaker 1: to have your company.
- 0:08Speaker 2: I'm James MacPerson with Caleb Bond and Anika the Georgio.
- 0:11Speaker 1: How are you guys?
- 0:12Speaker 3: Very good? Thank you great to be here.
- 0:14Speaker 4: Ready for another night Tuesday night and fight off and
- 0:17Speaker 4: ready to go.
- 0:18Speaker 5: What are you laughing about? DENI? What's so funny about?
- 0:21Speaker 5: I don't know here? What do you find it funny
- 0:23Speaker 5: that you're still employed?
- 0:24Speaker 3: Or some of us start them around.
- 0:27Speaker 4: We are thirty seconds into the show and he's just staying.
- 0:30Speaker 3: Putting the knife in already he's read.
- 0:32Speaker 4: Remember last week he wanted to send me out to
- 0:33Speaker 4: the Simpson Desert.
- 0:34Speaker 3: We'll wait to see what he does this week.
- 0:36Speaker 5: I see you dressed in Simpton Desert orange, so you
- 0:39Speaker 5: know it all.
- 0:39Speaker 4: Fits, doesn't sunrise where sunset comorry, you'll.
- 0:42Speaker 5: Have the stir desert pea in your heat.
- 0:44Speaker 1: It's going to be one of those nights. Here's what's
- 0:47Speaker 1: coming up.
- 0:47Speaker 2: Victorian Premier just Into Allen is spending a fortune on
- 0:50Speaker 2: social media. All Anthony Albanezi is just wishing social media,
- 0:54Speaker 2: where he's currently the butt of jokes, would go away.
- 0:57Speaker 1: We'll get to all of that shortly.
- 0:59Speaker 2: Plus the New South Wales Minister for Women declines to
- 1:02Speaker 2: say what a woman is. Meanwhile, the New South Wales
- 1:04Speaker 2: Premier seems to think the definition of a woman is
- 1:06Speaker 2: entirely contextual. And what would you think if you were
- 1:10Speaker 2: invited to a wedding where you had to pay for
- 1:12Speaker 2: your own food and drink and accommodation.
- 1:14Speaker 1: We'll get to all of that shortly, but.
- 1:16Speaker 2: First, the Australian Fashion Council is warning that we risk
- 1:20Speaker 2: losing the ability to manufacture our own clothes, which is
- 1:24Speaker 2: remarkable when you consider that once upon a time this
- 1:27Speaker 2: country could manufacture everything from automobiles to refrigerators. Currently, just
- 1:32Speaker 2: three percent of clothes purchased in Australia are made locally.
- 1:36Speaker 2: The other ninety seven percent typically arrive in plastic satchels
- 1:39Speaker 2: from overseas, after being ordered during a moment of weakness
- 1:42Speaker 2: while scrolling on the couch. This is a triumph of
- 1:45Speaker 2: what the industry politely calls fast fashion, cheaply made garments
- 1:49Speaker 2: produced in foreign factories, worn twice, photographed once, and then
- 1:52Speaker 2: banished to the back of the wardrobe beside the exercise bike.
- 1:56Speaker 2: And because we've decided we'd rather pay fourteen ninety five
- 1:59Speaker 2: for a shirt that Doesso in the rain than one
- 2:01Speaker 2: hundred dollars fro an Australian made item. Well, local clothing
- 2:04Speaker 2: manufacturing has collapsed to almost nothing. Meanwhile, the median age
- 2:08Speaker 2: of the nation's remaining textile workers is fifty seven. In
- 2:11Speaker 2: other words, the people still making clothes in Australia are
- 2:15Speaker 2: old enough to remember when we were still making cars
- 2:17Speaker 2: in Australia. Unless something changes, Australian made clothing is likely
- 2:21Speaker 2: to follow Holden Commodorees into the Museum of Things this
- 2:23Speaker 2: country once did before deciding we'd be better off importing
- 2:27Speaker 2: them from somewhere else. So the question is whether anyone cares,
- 2:32Speaker 2: and if we do care, Danika, who exactly is responsible?
- 2:35Speaker 4: Well, I think that we should care about fast fashion.
- 2:37Speaker 4: I think it is a real big problem. It's a
- 2:39Speaker 4: problem around the world right now because you've got these brands,
- 2:42Speaker 4: for example, like Tiamu selling clothes for a quarter of
- 2:46Speaker 4: what the price is. Meanwhile, you've got putting big brands
- 2:50Speaker 4: out of fashion. But it's not just the manufacturing side
- 2:53Speaker 4: of things. You've got warehouses and factories in China, in Bangladesh,
- 2:58Speaker 4: for example, not necessarily with Team but with other companies
- 3:01Speaker 4: where workers are being exploited. Basically, they're being treated like
- 3:04Speaker 4: they're in the third world. It's absolutely terrible. What fast
- 3:08Speaker 4: fashion does. It actually encourages consumers to keep buying. So,
- 3:12Speaker 4: for example, you go to the shops, you can buy
- 3:14Speaker 4: something at a fraction of the price, But after one
- 3:17Speaker 4: or two washes, you're going to notice that the quality
- 3:19Speaker 4: is fading, the color is going to fade, and you
- 3:21Speaker 4: simply will not be able to wear it again after
- 3:23Speaker 4: a couple of times.
- 3:24Speaker 3: So what do you do.
- 3:25Speaker 4: Then you have to go out and buy again and again,
- 3:28Speaker 4: and the cycle continues. It ends up in landfill. It's
- 3:30Speaker 4: actually very very bad for the environment, to be honest.
- 3:34Speaker 4: So the point is is trying to encourage people to
- 3:37Speaker 4: buy Australian made.
- 3:38Speaker 3: Goods that are better qualities.
- 3:40Speaker 4: So perhaps you may spend a little bit more in
- 3:43Speaker 4: the first instance, but knowing that these clothes are going
- 3:46Speaker 4: to last you a lot longer.
- 3:48Speaker 3: The fast fashion.
- 3:49Speaker 4: Industry is worth one hundred and fifty billion dollars and
- 3:51Speaker 4: what irks me the most about it is you've got
- 3:53Speaker 4: brands that actually rip off Australian made goods that do
- 3:57Speaker 4: cost more money. And what they'll do is they'll rep
- 3:59Speaker 4: a clay replicate, for example, a dress. You'll pay fifteen
- 4:04Speaker 4: dollars for the dress as opposed to what it should
- 4:08Speaker 4: be at an Australian retailer for maybe like two hundred
- 4:11Speaker 4: and two hundred and fifty dollars, and that small business
- 4:14Speaker 4: is missing out because you can get a cheap version
- 4:16Speaker 4: that's come from China and they look exactly the same.
- 4:19Speaker 4: So I think that we should be caring about this.
- 4:21Speaker 2: So how do you resolve this calib I mean, consumers
- 4:23Speaker 2: will typically go for the cheaper product unless the quality
- 4:28Speaker 2: is that much better that they're happy to pay the
- 4:31Speaker 2: higher price. Let the market decide what's wrong with that?
- 4:33Speaker 2: Aren't we capitalists who believe in the power of the market.
- 4:36Speaker 5: Well sure, but do you want to have anything made
- 4:38Speaker 5: in this country anymore? I mean, I'll tell you how
- 4:40Speaker 5: we resolve it. I'm currently wearing an Australian made are
- 4:44Speaker 5: in William's belt. I came in tonight wearing a pair
- 4:47Speaker 5: of Australian made are in Williams jeans. I believe, Daniki,
- 4:51Speaker 5: you came in wearing an Australian made coat. What did
- 4:53Speaker 5: you come in wearing tonight? James?
- 4:55Speaker 2: I wore an ensemble that I purchased entirely online while
- 4:59Speaker 2: watching a lot night movie the other night for five
- 5:01Speaker 2: dollars ninety five.
- 5:02Speaker 3: It came with the Chinese.
- 5:04Speaker 5: None of it was Australian made.
- 5:05Speaker 2: I got to be honest, I have no idea where
- 5:07Speaker 2: the clothing I wore the scene.
- 5:08Speaker 5: That's exactly the problem. You've got to make a conscious
- 5:12Speaker 5: effort to buy Australian made. Now, I go back to
- 5:15Speaker 5: the made earlier about the fact we used to make
- 5:17Speaker 5: cars and stuff. On the weekend, I was in the
- 5:20Speaker 5: what used to be the great manufacturing hub of Adelaide,
- 5:23Speaker 5: where because they made Holdens, and there was a I
- 5:25Speaker 5: saw a late model SS Commodore wagon V eight and
- 5:30Speaker 5: the number plate was rip Holden. There are people out
- 5:34Speaker 5: there who still think that there is value in Australian manufacturing,
- 5:38Speaker 5: and so you have to vote with your dollar and
- 5:41Speaker 5: buy Australian made clothes or the Australian made whatever you
- 5:45Speaker 5: can get your hands on. Except there are certain things
- 5:47Speaker 5: we don't make anymore. You said, you know, refrigerators. I
- 5:50Speaker 5: don't think we make calvnators or anything in this country anymore.
- 5:53Speaker 5: Used to make washing machines. In fact, there was a
- 5:55Speaker 5: company that made washing machines and cars for a little while,
- 5:59Speaker 5: like Burns Zeta. But you've got to spend your dollar
- 6:03Speaker 5: on Australian products unless you want to lose.
- 6:05Speaker 2: You've both surprised me in that you seem to be
- 6:07Speaker 2: putting the onus on the consumer and appealing to, you know,
- 6:10Speaker 2: for the sake of the country, for patriotism. Neither of
- 6:13Speaker 2: you have said anything about government regulation, government interference in business,
- 6:19Speaker 2: all the taxes that we put on businesses. Surely the
- 6:21Speaker 2: onners is not on the consumer. The onners is on
- 6:24Speaker 2: the government to create an environment in which local manufacturing
- 6:28Speaker 2: can thrive. Look like you're accusing me of lacking patriotism
- 6:31Speaker 2: because I don't know where I bought my clothing tonight.
- 6:34Speaker 1: I'm kidding you taking me personally. I'm just making the point.
- 6:37Speaker 2: It's not really my responsibility to make sure manufacturing succeeds
- 6:41Speaker 2: in this country. That's the role of government, at least
- 6:43Speaker 2: to at least the government shop the interfering.
- 6:47Speaker 3: No, I do agree.
- 6:48Speaker 4: I think the government should definitely be interfering, especially like
- 6:50Speaker 4: Timu and Sheen. For example, it's so easy to hop
- 6:54Speaker 4: on Timu now and buy a top for a dollar
- 6:57Speaker 4: for goodness sake, So you're going to get that top
- 7:00Speaker 4: shipped over and you're going to be able to wear
- 7:02Speaker 4: it once and it's probably not even going to look
- 7:03Speaker 4: like what you've seen online.
- 7:04Speaker 3: I don't know if you've seen those memes.
- 7:06Speaker 4: Of what I ordered versus what I've got, and these
- 7:09Speaker 4: clothes just are so ill fitting and they look absolutely terrible.
- 7:13Speaker 4: But I think that as Australians we should be conscious
- 7:15Speaker 4: and I think that we should make a conscious effort
- 7:18Speaker 4: to know where we're buying from and trying to put
- 7:21Speaker 4: money into the Australian economy, but in particular into small businesses,
- 7:26Speaker 4: because business out there are doing it really really tough
- 7:30Speaker 4: right now. You know, I don't know why anyone would
- 7:32Speaker 4: want to go into business right now in this climate,
- 7:34Speaker 4: and so I think the small things that we can
- 7:36Speaker 4: do to help the nation out. I don't think that
- 7:39Speaker 4: that's a big ask, James, and I.
- 7:41Speaker 5: Think, yes, you are right. Government is involved in this process,
- 7:44Speaker 5: but the consumer is also part of the process.
- 7:47Speaker 2: And consumer will will purchase where they see value. So
- 7:51Speaker 2: again you're putting the onus on the consumer to do
- 7:54Speaker 2: what the business should be doing providing value, to do
- 7:56Speaker 2: what the government should be doing providing an environment in
- 7:58Speaker 2: which the business can value. You're putting it all on
- 8:02Speaker 2: the consumer to do the right thing.
- 8:04Speaker 5: No, but it depends what you perceive as value. Some
- 8:07Speaker 5: people would perceive purely as value. What is the item
- 8:11Speaker 5: cost versus what have I got in my bank account?
- 8:14Speaker 5: And you know how long am I going to get
- 8:16Speaker 5: out of it?
- 8:16Speaker 3: Etc.
- 8:17Speaker 5: Other people like me make a concerted effort to buy
- 8:20Speaker 5: an Australian product. For me, the value of buying an
- 8:23Speaker 5: Australian product is more than just the dollar amount of
- 8:26Speaker 5: the product, and more than just the longevity of it.
- 8:29Speaker 5: It's what it does for my country. When I buy it,
- 8:32Speaker 5: I consider that value. Now, I'm not going to buy
- 8:35Speaker 5: an Australian made product if it's a heap of garbage. Obviously,
- 8:38Speaker 5: in general I find Australian made products are of better quality,
- 8:42Speaker 5: but they do cost more. But for me, part of
- 8:45Speaker 5: the value equation is what it does for my country
- 8:48Speaker 5: in purchasing it. You know, value is not just about
- 8:51Speaker 5: the item in front of you. It's about all the
- 8:52Speaker 5: other things that go along with it. Wouldn't you agree?
- 8:54Speaker 1: I agree with everything you're saying.
- 8:55Speaker 2: I just don't think there's enough people in this country
- 8:57Speaker 2: who either have the money to back up the principles
- 9:01Speaker 2: such as you do, or indeed the principles to make
- 9:04Speaker 2: the difference that needs to be made in order to
- 9:06Speaker 2: save manufacturing.
- 9:07Speaker 5: This is the problem. We need to push it. We
- 9:09Speaker 5: need to get people out there buying Australian made goods.
- 9:13Speaker 5: But you know we're talking about people spending money, right.
- 9:16Speaker 5: I mean, if you could go and knock on Gacina
- 9:18Speaker 5: Allen store the Premier of Victoria, she may be able
- 9:21Speaker 5: to give you the money to go and buy Australian
- 9:22Speaker 5: made goods if you can't afford them, because she is
- 9:25Speaker 5: now blowing more money on social media ads than her predecessor,
- 9:30Speaker 5: Daniel Andrews was. I mean, if you thought Daniel Andrews
- 9:32Speaker 5: had to push a bit up ill to get some support, No,
- 9:35Speaker 5: Cina Allen has it even worse. You are now paying,
- 9:39Speaker 5: if you are a Victorian taxpayer, sixteen thousand dollars a
- 9:43Speaker 5: month on meta advertising alone, so that is Facebook and Instagram.
- 9:49Speaker 5: Who knows what she might be spending elsewhere. Daniel Andrews,
- 9:52Speaker 5: by comparison, when he was premier, was spending fifteen thousand
- 9:57Speaker 5: dollars a month on his social media now he was
- 9:59Speaker 5: getting actual returns for it. He had more followers on
- 10:02Speaker 5: social media, real followers, I should stress, more followers on
- 10:05Speaker 5: social media I think than any other politician in the
- 10:08Speaker 5: country at the time. He was certainly on the heels
- 10:10Speaker 5: of the Prime minister if he didn't have more than
- 10:11Speaker 5: the Prime minister when he was premier. And of course
- 10:15Speaker 5: we told you the story a couple of months ago
- 10:17Speaker 5: about how just Center Allen's account on Instagram had been
- 10:20Speaker 5: filled up with tens of thousands of followers overnight, all
- 10:24Speaker 5: of which were bots that had been brought from India
- 10:26Speaker 5: or somewhere like this. So you have, if you're a
- 10:29Speaker 5: Victorian taxpayer, in the last eight months, spent one hundred
- 10:32Speaker 5: and twenty eight thousand dollars on Facebook and Instagram advertising
- 10:38Speaker 5: for stuff like this mag magnificent. I mean, they've got
- 10:50Speaker 5: to put some sort of restriction on politicians using public
- 10:55Speaker 5: money to advertise on their social media. I reckon, because
- 10:59Speaker 5: this is this is not just about you know, I've
- 11:01Speaker 5: got to get the message out there about what's going on.
- 11:05Speaker 5: This strays into campaign kind of territory, particularly when you're
- 11:09Speaker 5: leading up to a state election, as of course they
- 11:11Speaker 5: are in Victoria in November. I mean, they're spooking policies
- 11:15Speaker 5: that they will use to try and win another election.
- 11:18Speaker 5: And they do that on the text payer dime in
- 11:20Speaker 5: one hundred and twenty eight k in eight months on
- 11:22Speaker 5: Instagram and Facebook alone. That's in one state, one politician.
- 11:26Speaker 5: Imagine if you're counted for what everyone else is doing.
- 11:29Speaker 5: But this is just ridiculous.
- 11:30Speaker 4: Well, she's basically begging people to try and like her.
- 11:32Speaker 4: How tragic is that that is? That's that's really reached
- 11:36Speaker 4: sad proportions.
- 11:37Speaker 5: When you're show on the ABC, please lack me. I
- 11:40Speaker 5: can't remember the committed immediate it was, you know, Josh
- 11:43Speaker 5: Thomas was Thomas.
- 11:45Speaker 3: Yes.
- 11:45Speaker 4: So you know the thing with social media, I think
- 11:47Speaker 4: that it could be used as a terrific tool for
- 11:50Speaker 4: any political party, but only when it's done right now.
- 11:54Speaker 4: One example was the Victorian Liberal Party. You both will
- 11:58Speaker 4: remember a couple of months ago they put out that
- 12:00Speaker 4: campaign ad mocking that the fact that this was meant
- 12:03Speaker 4: to be Victoria's Commonwealth Games period, and I thought it
- 12:06Speaker 4: was great.
- 12:06Speaker 3: You had.
- 12:08Speaker 4: You know, you had all of the shadow Cabinet ministry
- 12:11Speaker 4: out there on the running track and swimming and that
- 12:14Speaker 4: sort of thing is clever and I think it can
- 12:15Speaker 4: be used well, particularly if you want to try and
- 12:18Speaker 4: get the young vote on board. But what your ciner
- 12:21Speaker 4: Alan is doing is doing it in disastrous terms.
- 12:24Speaker 3: I mean, we just saw that video then. It looked
- 12:26Speaker 3: very staged.
- 12:27Speaker 1: It was.
- 12:28Speaker 4: It was if her media manager said, okay, stage rights, Jacenter,
- 12:32Speaker 4: walk a couple of steps, smile at the camera and
- 12:35Speaker 4: give us a thumbs up. It's very accurate, it is.
- 12:37Speaker 4: I mean, look at it. It's it's all. It's all
- 12:40Speaker 4: just acting. So when it's done well, it's very clever.
- 12:43Speaker 4: But what an insult to the taxpayers of Victoria to
- 12:47Speaker 4: be forking out that amount of money to try and
- 12:50Speaker 4: make yourself look good when a lot of your followers
- 12:53Speaker 4: are in Nigeria and Bangladesh to start with, so you've
- 12:56Speaker 4: already got the fake follower list. Meanwhile, your country, your state, sorry,
- 13:01Speaker 4: is going broke. Tax payers are forking out money left
- 13:04Speaker 4: right and center on COVID debt levies for goodness sake,
- 13:08Speaker 4: and you're out there pretending to be funny just so
- 13:11Speaker 4: you can be liked. Do you say that there's something
- 13:13Speaker 4: quite wrong with that, James.
- 13:14Speaker 2: It's not working because her approval rating is currently negative
- 13:17Speaker 2: thirty seven percent. She's the only premier in this country
- 13:21Speaker 2: who's got a negative approval rating. She's tried to buy followers,
- 13:25Speaker 2: as you pointed out, Caleb, at one stage she had
- 13:27Speaker 2: something like ninety thousand bots following her on Instagram, twenty
- 13:32Speaker 2: percent of her followers from Bangladesh, seven point three from Nigeria.
- 13:36Speaker 2: They're not going to help her at the election, and
- 13:38Speaker 2: you know, I guess when the only two things you're
- 13:41Speaker 2: good at are crime and debt, and she's excelled at
- 13:44Speaker 2: both of those, producing much what she got left other
- 13:48Speaker 2: than announcements and clever memes on social media, except, as
- 13:51Speaker 2: you point out, they're not that clever. Curiously, the Victorian
- 13:55Speaker 2: Liberal Party have started spending a lot more money on
- 13:58Speaker 2: their social media, but at least they're doing it well.
- 14:02Speaker 2: Regardless of what you think of them, I think their
- 14:03Speaker 2: social media is quite entertaining as opposed to Jacinta Allen's.
- 14:07Speaker 1: I don't know if you know this, Caleb.
- 14:09Speaker 2: You tend to know pretty much everything, but did you
- 14:11Speaker 2: know to take that one?
- 14:13Speaker 1: That's a compliment very smart?
- 14:15Speaker 2: You know that when Jacinta Allen was campaigning to win
- 14:18Speaker 2: the seat of Bendigo, which he's held for twenty five years.
- 14:20Speaker 2: She door knocked ten thousand homes personally, and when I
- 14:25Speaker 2: read that, you know, I don't like Jasinta Ellen much
- 14:28Speaker 2: at all, but I'll give her this.
- 14:30Speaker 1: She is absolutely furiously.
- 14:32Speaker 2: Determined and you see that in her social media as well.
- 14:35Speaker 1: She is relentless with her social media.
- 14:38Speaker 2: She just produces clip after clip after clip. If you
- 14:42Speaker 2: follow her, you're bombarded with it. She's clearly hoping. That's
- 14:45Speaker 2: kind of the difference. Of course I follow, I want
- 14:47Speaker 2: to be informed.
- 14:48Speaker 4: You follow her on instagras are you a Bangladesh I like.
- 14:52Speaker 1: All the posts. I'm trying to encourage her. Like her.
- 14:56Speaker 5: She is in a genuine fight for her politically. She
- 14:58Speaker 5: is because that the NAT going to give her a
- 15:00Speaker 5: really good go in her electorate. The Chapese name escapes
- 15:04Speaker 5: me now, who ran federally in Bendigo last year and
- 15:08Speaker 5: nearly won that seat, is going to run against her
- 15:11Speaker 5: in her seat, so they could give her a really
- 15:14Speaker 5: good shake. But the other thing we really should mention
- 15:16Speaker 5: when it comes to politicians using social media as well,
- 15:19Speaker 5: is that they are now using this increasingly as a
- 15:22Speaker 5: vehicle to get their spin out with any kind of
- 15:25Speaker 5: oversight whatsoever. And you know, there are a lot of
- 15:27Speaker 5: people that might surprise some of you to know who
- 15:31Speaker 5: only get their information from social media and they're getting
- 15:35Speaker 5: it direct from the source, which means when it comes
- 15:37Speaker 5: to politicians, often they're just getting the version of events
- 15:41Speaker 5: that the politician wants you to hear. There's no critical
- 15:44Speaker 5: lens put over it. And so we are as tax payers,
- 15:49Speaker 5: paying for politicians to put out what they deem to be,
- 15:52Speaker 5: you know, sort of quasi news content, so they can
- 15:55Speaker 5: usurp everyone else where there is a critical lens put
- 15:58Speaker 5: on things and tell you only what they want you
- 16:01Speaker 5: to know. And I'm not saying they shouldn't be able
- 16:04Speaker 5: to post on social media, but I think we should
- 16:07Speaker 5: take into account when we talk about democracy what that
- 16:10Speaker 5: can potentially do. If the only sources of information are
- 16:13Speaker 5: the politicians themselves, you know, you lose the ability sometimes
- 16:18Speaker 5: to say, hang on a minute, is that real, because
- 16:21Speaker 5: there becomes one source of information if you.
- 16:23Speaker 1: Follow up that.
- 16:24Speaker 4: Well, that is a good point, but as we know,
- 16:26Speaker 4: people want the information fast now, and really these social
- 16:30Speaker 4: media clips can make or break you because people do
- 16:32Speaker 4: actually have a short attention span. So if you can
- 16:34Speaker 4: get people's attention pretty quickly. That could win over a
- 16:37Speaker 4: vote very easily. Well, Anthony Albanezi has been reduced to
- 16:42Speaker 4: a mere meme. Yes, he's become a parody of himself.
- 16:46Speaker 4: The Prime Minister is a ridicule of himself. Basically, he
- 16:50Speaker 4: is a copying it left, right and center online right now.
- 16:54Speaker 4: And I've got to say it's actually quite funny. You
- 16:56Speaker 4: may have seen these memes pop up. We're showing a
- 16:58Speaker 4: couple on the screen right now. This is in regards
- 17:01Speaker 4: to the capital gains tax changes, where people are making
- 17:04Speaker 4: AI images of him, as I guess, a quasi silent
- 17:09Speaker 4: business partner inserting himself into your business.
- 17:12Speaker 3: You might have seen him on the front.
- 17:13Speaker 4: Page the Daily Telegraph at a Pilates studio doing the splits.
- 17:16Speaker 4: Here he is what is this a lady's only, Jim?
- 17:20Speaker 4: It said, lafies only. Sometimes AI doesn't work quite well,
- 17:23Speaker 4: but there he is. Anthony ALBERIZI is always there for you,
- 17:26Speaker 4: always in your business and always taxing you big. The
- 17:30Speaker 4: pink suit that he's got on the screen right now.
- 17:33Speaker 5: I wonder was an Australian mate.
- 17:35Speaker 3: Well, that's a very good question.
- 17:37Speaker 4: There he is cutting someone's hair as you can see.
- 17:41Speaker 3: So these are the memes doing the right now and now.
- 17:43Speaker 4: You might recall Anthony Alberzi last year when he was
- 17:47Speaker 4: talking about misinformation on the internet and he got quite
- 17:50Speaker 4: upset about memes that were being made of himself back then.
- 17:54Speaker 4: But when asked today what he thought of the memes
- 17:58Speaker 4: that are doing the rounds, his reaction was a little
- 18:01Speaker 4: bit different.
- 18:02Speaker 6: I think some of them are very flattering, and I
- 18:04Speaker 6: thank them for picking very nice photos of me, and
- 18:09Speaker 6: I thank them for that.
- 18:12Speaker 4: So now he is thanking everyone for the memes around him.
- 18:15Speaker 3: How vanilla is this guy? But what a ridiculous response.
- 18:18Speaker 4: I feel like, deep down is I don't like this.
- 18:21Speaker 3: This is really bad.
- 18:22Speaker 4: And I also think that a lot within many within
- 18:24Speaker 4: the Labor Party would be thinking this is terrible because
- 18:27Speaker 4: they've put out this woful budget that's meant to try
- 18:30Speaker 4: and incentivize young people. So they say it's meant to
- 18:33Speaker 4: be talking about intergenerational equity, and these memes actually target
- 18:38Speaker 4: young people. Young people are the ones that are going
- 18:40Speaker 4: to be responding to this. Anthony Albernezi has always fancied
- 18:44Speaker 4: himself as I guess, the man of the youth, the
- 18:48Speaker 4: man of the youth. We see him at the Taylor
- 18:50Speaker 4: Swift concerts, we see him dancing, we see him at
- 18:54Speaker 4: the tennis.
- 18:54Speaker 3: He tries to be the everyday appealing man.
- 18:57Speaker 4: I don't think that he would be particularly happy with
- 18:59Speaker 4: these memes doing the round because this is the vote
- 19:01Speaker 4: that they want to get on board, and young people
- 19:03Speaker 4: are responding to this, and I just wonder is has
- 19:07Speaker 4: there been a change now?
- 19:08Speaker 3: Are young people going I full of crap?
- 19:10Speaker 5: Well, we talk, we do about the social media, the
- 19:12Speaker 5: power of social media. Right, this is what should have
- 19:15Speaker 5: been the crowd supporting the budget turning on it now.
- 19:19Speaker 5: I'm not going to be so silly as to suggests
- 19:21Speaker 5: that it means one hundred percent of young people and
- 19:23Speaker 5: millennials and indeed don't support what has happened in the budget.
- 19:28Speaker 5: But what you've got to consider and what the government
- 19:30Speaker 5: seems to have forgotten in all of this when they're
- 19:32Speaker 5: trying to trumpet it, as you know, we're making it
- 19:35Speaker 5: easier for young people to buy a home, and young people,
- 19:39Speaker 5: you know, in the context of people who are trying
- 19:41Speaker 5: to buy a home, is anywhere from like forty five
- 19:44Speaker 5: years old downwards. Really like there are people in the
- 19:46Speaker 5: millennial category pushing forty five on who still don't own
- 19:50Speaker 5: a home and would desperately like to. So that's the
- 19:53Speaker 5: target market that they're going for. But a lot of
- 19:55Speaker 5: those people, knowing that they are struggling or will struggle
- 19:59Speaker 5: to get into the housing market, have gone and put
- 20:02Speaker 5: their money elsewhere. So they've invested their money in, say
- 20:05Speaker 5: the stock market or cryptocurrency, or they've gone and started
- 20:08Speaker 5: a small business and thought, okay, well, if I can't
- 20:11Speaker 5: create a nest egg in a home straight away, what
- 20:14Speaker 5: I'll go and do is I'll spend my savings on
- 20:17Speaker 5: starting a business and then hopefully I can build that
- 20:19Speaker 5: up into something that I could later cash in and
- 20:21Speaker 5: perhaps buy a house with. Those are the people who
- 20:24Speaker 5: are getting stuffed by this budget. Young people who've gone,
- 20:28Speaker 5: I can't invest in a house, I'll go and invest
- 20:31Speaker 5: in something else, because they haven't just applied the changes
- 20:34Speaker 5: to CGT to housing, they've applied it to every investment,
- 20:38Speaker 5: and so run of the mill middle class young people,
- 20:43Speaker 5: millennials and gen Z who've gone, I'll find another way
- 20:46Speaker 5: to save up my money have been stung in this budget,
- 20:49Speaker 5: and they're the people who are now ridiculing the government
- 20:52Speaker 5: and the Prime Minister on social media. This has not
- 20:55Speaker 5: played anywhere near as well as they thought it would.
- 20:58Speaker 1: It hasn't.
- 20:58Speaker 2: And can we just watch that clip the Nika through
- 21:00Speaker 2: to a moment ago of Albanese's response. Just watch how
- 21:03Speaker 2: he responds, because I'm curious as to.
- 21:05Speaker 1: Whether you think is he embarrassed or is he seething?
- 21:09Speaker 1: Just have a look at this again.
- 21:11Speaker 6: I think some of them are very flattering, and I
- 21:13Speaker 6: thank them for picking very nice photos of me, and
- 21:18Speaker 6: I thank them for that.
- 21:20Speaker 1: I reckon he's embarrassed.
- 21:22Speaker 2: Politicians don't mind if you disagree with them, but they
- 21:25Speaker 2: hate it if you laugh at them. And to know
- 21:28Speaker 2: that everybody is laughing at him, and worse, the people
- 21:31Speaker 2: who are laughing at him are, as you said, the Nika,
- 21:33Speaker 2: the people he thought he had in his back pocket.
- 21:35Speaker 2: Because we're labor, we're progressive. It's the liberals who've got
- 21:38Speaker 2: a woman problem. It's the liberals who've got a young
- 21:41Speaker 2: vote problem.
- 21:42Speaker 1: But we own the youth vote.
- 21:44Speaker 2: Well, now the youth are doing the job of the opposition.
- 21:47Speaker 2: Angus Taylor doesn't really need to point out many of
- 21:49Speaker 2: the problems with these tax changes because young people are
- 21:52Speaker 2: doing it. On social media. But worse social media is
- 21:56Speaker 2: the space Anthony Alberze has tried to own through his
- 22:00Speaker 2: manipulation of the Safety Commissioner, who probably didn't need that
- 22:03Speaker 2: much manipulation. He's tried to dominate that space and prevent
- 22:07Speaker 2: messages he doesn't like from being spread.
- 22:09Speaker 1: And the worst part of it all.
- 22:11Speaker 2: Is everything that's being said on social media about the
- 22:14Speaker 2: tax changes is true. They're the worst kind of jokes
- 22:17Speaker 2: when they're not only funny, they're not only viral, but
- 22:20Speaker 2: they're true, and he knows it. And what can you
- 22:24Speaker 2: do but brush it off and hope it stops.
- 22:27Speaker 1: I don't think it's going to.
- 22:29Speaker 2: Let's change topic for a moment, because other politicians in
- 22:31Speaker 2: this country are doing just as badly.
- 22:34Speaker 1: Not sure if you two are familiar with the.
- 22:36Speaker 2: Bible, but at the start of the Bible, it says
- 22:38Speaker 2: in the beginning God created the earth, and it says
- 22:40Speaker 2: God created the male and female. Now, I would have
- 22:43Speaker 2: thought the controversial part of God created the male and
- 22:46Speaker 2: female would have been the existence of God.
- 22:49Speaker 1: Who knew when Moses.
- 22:50Speaker 2: Wrote that that in twenty twenty six, The controversial bit
- 22:53Speaker 2: isn't the existence of God.
- 22:54Speaker 1: It's the existence of man and woman. What is a woman? Danika,
- 22:59Speaker 1: do you know?
- 23:00Speaker 2: Because the Minister for Women in New South Wales apparently
- 23:04Speaker 2: does not.
- 23:04Speaker 4: Well, according to our laws, James, a biological man can
- 23:10Speaker 4: be a woman. So that's where we're in Australia right now.
- 23:14Speaker 4: But apparently what is a woman is the hardest question
- 23:16Speaker 4: of our time for politicians.
- 23:17Speaker 2: She was asked about it today and she declined to answer.
- 23:20Speaker 2: Jody Harrison said, as this matter may be subject this
- 23:24Speaker 2: matter being what is a woman? As this matter may
- 23:27Speaker 2: be subject to further legal processes, it would not be
- 23:29Speaker 2: appropriate to comment on the specifics of the case. This
- 23:33Speaker 2: matter was considered by the Federal Court under Commonwealth Anti
- 23:35Speaker 2: discrimination law and questions about the legal framework are ultimately
- 23:39Speaker 2: matters for the federal government. She was asked what is
- 23:41Speaker 2: a woman and came up with that word salad, which
- 23:44Speaker 2: translated means I, as the Minister for Women in New
- 23:47Speaker 2: South Wales, really can't say what a woman is until
- 23:50Speaker 2: I get advice from either a court or someone in
- 23:54Speaker 2: the Federal Parliament.
- 23:56Speaker 1: Chris Mins, the Premier, wasn't much better.
- 24:00Speaker 7: If you're born biologically male and you change your government
- 24:04Speaker 7: certificates to be female, it will not mean that you
- 24:08Speaker 7: can change from a male prison to a female prison.
- 24:11Speaker 7: There are biological differences that are inherent, and the law
- 24:15Speaker 7: needs to reflect that.
- 24:17Speaker 1: Be consistent.
- 24:18Speaker 2: Man, you can't be a woman one moment, then you're
- 24:20Speaker 2: not a woman, and then you're a woman again. He
- 24:22Speaker 2: just said a man can change to a woman by
- 24:26Speaker 2: virtue of altering his birth certificate. So a man becomes
- 24:29Speaker 2: a woman in the eyes of the government. But then
- 24:31Speaker 2: he commits a crime and he sentenced to prison. Well,
- 24:33Speaker 2: now he's not a woman because he can't go to
- 24:35Speaker 2: the women's prison. But once he's served his prison sentence,
- 24:38Speaker 2: presumably he can come out of prison and begin being
- 24:41Speaker 2: recognized once more as a woman. So, according to Chris Men's,
- 24:46Speaker 2: a woman depends entirely on the Contextkalb.
- 24:49Speaker 5: Well, yes, the business about what you are and your
- 24:52Speaker 5: birth certificate, I must say, is fascical. But I do
- 24:54Speaker 5: have to give him credit because essentially what he is
- 24:56Speaker 5: saying is, look, you can go and change it on
- 24:58Speaker 5: the piece of paper.
- 25:00Speaker 1: The rule that you can change it.
- 25:01Speaker 5: I understand that. But you can go and change it
- 25:03Speaker 5: on the piece of paper, but you're not going to
- 25:05Speaker 5: get any further recognition than that.
- 25:07Speaker 1: He gets no recognition, No try.
- 25:09Speaker 5: I don't disagree with you, but it's a lot better
- 25:12Speaker 5: than a lot of other people have done, and so
- 25:14Speaker 5: I have to give some credit for that. I mean,
- 25:16Speaker 5: what he is saying, you can't go to a female
- 25:18Speaker 5: prison fair enough, You won't be able to go into
- 25:21Speaker 5: a female sport fair enough. I mean, these are things
- 25:24Speaker 5: that the Minister for Women should have been able to say,
- 25:27Speaker 5: and it's taken the premiere to say them. Yes, I agree,
- 25:30Speaker 5: you shouldn't be able to change it on your birth
- 25:31Speaker 5: certificate either.
- 25:32Speaker 1: He's trying to have a better piece.
- 25:34Speaker 5: At least it's closer than a lot of other people.
- 25:36Speaker 5: You know, who else can I do can?
- 25:38Speaker 2: So I got to interrupt you. At least he's closer
- 25:40Speaker 2: than a lot of other people. We're not trying to
- 25:42Speaker 2: split the atom. What is a woman? And you'll give
- 25:44Speaker 2: him credit because he's wrong, but he's not as wrong
- 25:47Speaker 2: as other people on a question that a ten year
- 25:49Speaker 2: old doesn't need to think more than a split second to.
- 25:52Speaker 1: Get it right.
- 25:52Speaker 2: These politicians are making fools of themselves and fools of
- 25:56Speaker 2: the country by keeping up this pretense that set is
- 26:00Speaker 2: something other than a fixed biological reality. He deserves Okay,
- 26:04Speaker 2: good on him for not allowing men identifying as women
- 26:07Speaker 2: to go into a women's prison, But do you really
- 26:10Speaker 2: need cre that that's how bad our political classes become
- 26:14Speaker 2: that we're giving credit for that.
- 26:16Speaker 4: I think that Chris Mens is probably the best labor
- 26:21Speaker 4: politician to date to come out and be very specific
- 26:24Speaker 4: about it. However, as you said, James, there are self
- 26:27Speaker 4: I D laws in this state right now. So right now, yep,
- 26:31Speaker 4: you can go and change your sex on your birth
- 26:32Speaker 4: certificate without having to have surgery, no problems, and you're
- 26:35Speaker 4: a man in a dress and you say, yeah, I'm
- 26:38Speaker 4: actually a woman, and you can enter a female only
- 26:40Speaker 4: change room with actual biological women present, and that would
- 26:43Speaker 4: be okay in the eyes of the law. What I
- 26:45Speaker 4: did not like about what Chris Mins said today was
- 26:48Speaker 4: that he would not come out publicly and back Angus
- 26:50Speaker 4: Taylor's call for the federal laws to be changed. And
- 26:54Speaker 4: that is what I thought was the weakest point today from.
- 26:58Speaker 1: Christ He's part of the problem, is part of the problem.
- 27:00Speaker 4: Because if you truly cared then about women's rights and credit. Again,
- 27:04Speaker 4: I do agree that Chris Men's was okay about it,
- 27:07Speaker 4: but if you really did care about women's rights. You
- 27:10Speaker 4: would say, change the Sex Discrimination Act, restore biological definitions
- 27:15Speaker 4: so that way we have a clear definition of a
- 27:18Speaker 4: man and a woman in this country and stop this
- 27:21Speaker 4: absolute nonsense. And that way we won't see this nonsense
- 27:24Speaker 4: being dragged through the courts every time you even dare
- 27:27Speaker 4: to comment that a man in address is a biological man,
- 27:31Speaker 4: not a woman.
- 27:31Speaker 3: But this is where we're at in society.
- 27:33Speaker 5: When the Prime Minister was asked a few years ago,
- 27:36Speaker 5: what is a woman? You know what he said, an
- 27:38Speaker 5: adult human female. Anthony Albanizi said that right, So it
- 27:44Speaker 5: shouldn't be hard to identify and it therefore shouldn't be
- 27:47Speaker 5: hard for the federal government to get on board with
- 27:49Speaker 5: what the opposition is suggesting, which is that adult human
- 27:53Speaker 5: females are actually women and they deserve their own protection.
- 27:57Speaker 5: Now let's move on from what is a woman to well,
- 28:01Speaker 5: what is love?
- 28:03Speaker 2: Love?
- 28:04Speaker 8: Van the marriage?
- 28:06Speaker 1: Love and the marriage.
- 28:08Speaker 5: Going together like the horse and cart? And what price
- 28:14Speaker 5: would you put on love? I mean, old blue eyes?
- 28:16Speaker 5: There sings, of course, you know, love and marriage they
- 28:19Speaker 5: go together like a horse and carriage. But what about
- 28:22Speaker 5: love and marriage and paying to go to someone's wedding?
- 28:25Speaker 5: A strange concept, I reckon. But someone has posted online
- 28:29Speaker 5: or on the line, there's a fuddy duddy like me,
- 28:32Speaker 5: Like say, I might say, an invitation that they received
- 28:36Speaker 5: to a friend of the wedding. Now, keep in mind,
- 28:39Speaker 5: this woman who's posted this is meant to be the
- 28:41Speaker 5: maid of honor at this wedding. But it says in
- 28:45Speaker 5: the invitation this is according to the maid of honor.
- 28:48Speaker 5: She says, the wedding will be on a Monday, and
- 28:51Speaker 5: they're telling people to come in on Sunday and leave
- 28:54Speaker 5: on Wednesday. And you have to pay two hundred and
- 28:58Speaker 5: fifty dollars per head in order to go, which will
- 29:01Speaker 5: cover the airbnb, the food, and the drink for the
- 29:04Speaker 5: entire stay. But here is the kicker. You pay the
- 29:07Speaker 5: two hundred and fifty dollars regardless of whether you come
- 29:10Speaker 5: or leave. So if you're going to the wedding, every
- 29:12Speaker 5: single person has to pay two hundred and fifty dollars
- 29:15Speaker 5: regardless of whether they stay in this place or get
- 29:17Speaker 5: their own accommodation or whatever else. And to add insult
- 29:21Speaker 5: to injury, she says, this is the maid of honor.
- 29:23Speaker 5: Keep in mind, me and my partner should be my
- 29:26Speaker 5: partner and me of course, would have to stay on
- 29:30Speaker 5: an air mattress in a room with.
- 29:32Speaker 8: Other guests occupying the bunk beds two hundred and fifty
- 29:36Speaker 8: dollars ahead. So the couple would have to pay five
- 29:39Speaker 8: hundred dollars to go to someone else's wedding. And this
- 29:43Speaker 8: woman's the maid of honor, I mean, for goodness sake.
- 29:47Speaker 8: You know, you go to someone's wedding and you either
- 29:49Speaker 8: give a gift, or there's a wishing well and you
- 29:51Speaker 8: contribute some money, and maybe that goes towards the wedding,
- 29:54Speaker 8: or it goes towards the honeymoon, or it goes towards
- 29:58Speaker 8: things to put in the matrimonial home or whatever.
- 30:01Speaker 4: Like.
- 30:01Speaker 5: Who cares? I think it's a bit rude, isn't it
- 30:05Speaker 5: to ask someone to pay two hundred and fifty dollars
- 30:07Speaker 5: in order to come to your wedding.
- 30:09Speaker 4: Yeah, it's like a GoFundMe page for your own wedding.
- 30:11Speaker 4: For goodness sake, why would you bother having a wedding
- 30:14Speaker 4: anyway when you if you can't, if you can't afford
- 30:16Speaker 4: to get married, that's fine. You don't have to get married,
- 30:19Speaker 4: or you can just have something small maybe you just
- 30:21Speaker 4: go to the registry yourselves and get married and then maybe,
- 30:23Speaker 4: if you can afford it, later on, you may do
- 30:25Speaker 4: a party. You may do something low key, you do.
- 30:27Speaker 1: It in a back Yeah, no problem with this whatsoever?
- 30:31Speaker 5: Wh Why?
- 30:31Speaker 1: Okay?
- 30:32Speaker 5: Firstly, the villain charge is to come to your wedding.
- 30:34Speaker 3: Actually, well you did in charge.
- 30:36Speaker 1: The villain here is not the bride.
- 30:37Speaker 5: The villain detail.
- 30:40Speaker 2: The villain is the maid of honor who went public
- 30:43Speaker 2: with this. She could have simply said, you know what,
- 30:45Speaker 2: I'm not coming to the wedding, but instead she went
- 30:47Speaker 2: to the Daily Mail or whoever it was, and is
- 30:50Speaker 2: making a fool of her friend.
- 30:52Speaker 1: That's the villain here.
- 30:53Speaker 2: Second, of all two hundred and fifty dollars for three
- 30:55Speaker 2: nights accommodation, all food, all drinks supplied, and whether you
- 30:59Speaker 2: stay for one night or three.
- 31:00Speaker 1: They have to do.
- 31:01Speaker 2: That because they've obviously got a budget, and if they
- 31:03Speaker 2: have some people coming and going and paying a bit here,
- 31:06Speaker 2: a bit there, they can't organize it.
- 31:08Speaker 1: Whether you like it or not. Whatever, it's her wedding.
- 31:11Speaker 2: People shouldn't be down on her. You can say no,
- 31:13Speaker 2: I don't want to attend.
- 31:14Speaker 3: What's the point why would you.
- 31:16Speaker 4: I think it's embarrassing to ask people to charge first sleep,
- 31:18Speaker 4: first sleep. Here's the accommodation, but you have to sleep
- 31:22Speaker 4: on an air mattress, and you'll also have to sleep
- 31:25Speaker 4: with other guests whom you don't know. I would say
- 31:27Speaker 4: thank you, but no, thank you. Secondly, hang on. Secondly,
- 31:30Speaker 4: she's also saying, this is a two hundred and fifty
- 31:33Speaker 4: dollars fee. Plus on top of that, they've also asked
- 31:36Speaker 4: for additional money for their honeymoon as well, so you
- 31:39Speaker 4: could end up paying, as you said, Caleb, five hundred
- 31:41Speaker 4: dollars if you're a couple. Plus on top of that,
- 31:43Speaker 4: then you've got to give additional money to the wishing well,
- 31:46Speaker 4: which they want to put towards their honeymoon. This is
- 31:48Speaker 4: going to be one of the most expensive weddings ever.
- 31:50Speaker 4: Why bother to have a wedding? Don't charge people a fee?
- 31:52Speaker 4: And I do think it's always at age old how
- 31:54Speaker 4: much do you give somebody with a wishing well? I
- 31:56Speaker 4: always think how much do you give a person? You
- 32:00Speaker 4: and I even debate every time I go to a wedding.
- 32:03Speaker 4: I don't know, I never know. It's hard to know
- 32:04Speaker 4: how much to give. But I give a certain amount,
- 32:08Speaker 4: but I just think that it's rude.
- 32:10Speaker 3: It's so rude.
- 32:11Speaker 4: Don't have a wedding if you're going to charge people
- 32:13Speaker 4: a fee. It's not a nightclub.
- 32:15Speaker 5: Surely what you do if you were gonna you're having
- 32:17Speaker 5: it somewhere and you're organizing accommodation, presumably because it's out
- 32:22Speaker 5: of town or something, right, you'd contact the people going
- 32:25Speaker 5: to the wedding and say, we're booking this airbnb that's
- 32:28Speaker 5: got X number of rooms. If you're interested in staying
- 32:31Speaker 5: with us, let us know and then we'll work out
- 32:33Speaker 5: the money after that. You don't just send out to people.
- 32:36Speaker 5: You've got to poke two hundred and fifty dollars to
- 32:38Speaker 5: come to the wedding. I mean, like, come on.
- 32:40Speaker 1: But no one's got a gun to your head. You're
- 32:41Speaker 1: welcome to RSVP.
- 32:43Speaker 2: Sorry, I'm going to the dentist that day, But then
- 32:45Speaker 2: you can do that on the wedding exactly.
- 32:47Speaker 1: Well, you're routing on her anyway. I wouldn't want you
- 32:50Speaker 1: at the wedding because you're so critical.
- 32:53Speaker 4: James didn't charge us a fee to attend his last year.
- 32:56Speaker 4: Were you and I are lucky Cale.
- 32:59Speaker 5: We could have been he travelers. Because the brand in
- 33:02Speaker 5: this case also said that it was semi formal dress.
- 33:05Speaker 5: Certain colors were banned. Burgundy and white were banned, and
- 33:08Speaker 5: there's also a band on light or dark blue.
- 33:10Speaker 3: Job.
- 33:11Speaker 4: I don't have a problem with okay jeans, no, but
- 33:13Speaker 4: I don't have a problem with people putting a theme
- 33:16Speaker 4: for the wedding or a color palette. I think that's fine.
- 33:18Speaker 4: A lot of people do that nowadays.
- 33:21Speaker 3: Looks at me like I've.
- 33:22Speaker 5: Got more more restrictions.
- 33:26Speaker 1: Part of Bride'szilla is okay.
- 33:27Speaker 3: But that's not a Bridezilla thing.
- 33:29Speaker 4: A lot of people say, please wear this color to
- 33:32Speaker 4: the wedding, Please.
- 33:34Speaker 5: Wear this color. It's please, don't wear burgen.
- 33:37Speaker 3: It doesn't matter.
- 33:37Speaker 4: Well, I mean, I don't have a problem with that.
- 33:39Speaker 4: Don't wear white, never ever wear white to a wedding.
- 33:42Speaker 3: That I agree.
- 33:42Speaker 2: We also said your clothes have to be manufactured in Australia.
- 33:47Speaker 5: You're out there.
- 33:49Speaker 1: I was never p fifty bucks.
- 33:51Speaker 4: Yes, seriously, you wouldn't want to come to Italian wedding.
- 33:54Speaker 3: I'll tell you what. All right, well, let's move on now.
- 33:56Speaker 4: I want to show you this from back home to
- 33:59Speaker 4: alleged vandals who allegedly graffitied Anzac Day memorials on Anzac Day. Well,
- 34:07Speaker 4: they've appeared in court today in Melbourne and I just
- 34:09Speaker 4: want to roll this vision.
- 34:11Speaker 3: Have a look at this.
- 34:12Speaker 4: This is these two entering court faces covered mask on face.
- 34:17Speaker 4: You can't see anything. They've got these what are they?
- 34:20Speaker 4: Scarves on their heads, caps on and all the supporters
- 34:23Speaker 4: around them are where are holding these umbrellas to try
- 34:26Speaker 4: and shield them. Now, these two women are accused of
- 34:29Speaker 4: spray painting messages including f anzas and kill the troops
- 34:34Speaker 4: on Melbourne RSLs.
- 34:36Speaker 3: But have a listen to this.
- 34:37Speaker 4: I want to read you out a quote. They had
- 34:40Speaker 4: some supporters in court. One of them called the media
- 34:44Speaker 4: scumbags and shameful, and one of them said, quote, why
- 34:48Speaker 4: don't you go and find a pothole to report on?
- 34:51Speaker 4: In another remark, she said, I wish you would mind
- 34:54Speaker 4: your own business. Well, gee, where does one begin? So firstly,
- 34:59Speaker 4: these two are obviously cowardly. They have allegedly committed these
- 35:03Speaker 4: acts but don't want to show their faces. Well, lucky
- 35:05Speaker 4: for us, we know their names, Edith Pope twenty two
- 35:08Speaker 4: and Charlie Ann tidmarsh aged twenty so names are all
- 35:12Speaker 4: out there. They didn't achieve anything by doing that. Now
- 35:16Speaker 4: we're talking here about our ansacs. These are brave men
- 35:19Speaker 4: and women who went out to fight for us, to
- 35:21Speaker 4: fight for this country. They weren't cowards, and yet you've
- 35:24Speaker 4: got these two two scared to show their own faces.
- 35:29Speaker 3: The other point I would make allegedly.
- 35:31Speaker 4: Rather that they were bailed, the pair successfully argued to
- 35:35Speaker 4: have their bail conditions relaxed so that they could quote
- 35:38Speaker 4: associate with each other.
- 35:39Speaker 3: Again.
- 35:40Speaker 4: Only in Victoria would something like this happen set the
- 35:44Speaker 4: standard for goodness sakes, and.
- 35:46Speaker 5: The fact that you have supporters in court who are
- 35:50Speaker 5: making comments like don't you have a pothole to report?
- 35:53Speaker 5: It gives you some indication of the level of regard
- 35:57Speaker 5: that these people have. Talking about the two accused, the
- 36:01Speaker 5: court will deal with them, but others in court the
- 36:04Speaker 5: level of regard they have for this country. When they
- 36:07Speaker 5: think court, a court dealing with people being accused of
- 36:11Speaker 5: writing f the ANZACs on an RSL and the media
- 36:15Speaker 5: reporting on that because there is obvious public interest in it,
- 36:18Speaker 5: has the same significance as of pothole. That's what they
- 36:22Speaker 5: think of our ansacks. I mean, that is a disgrace
- 36:24Speaker 5: those sorts of I know we can't do it because
- 36:26Speaker 5: they're probably citizens and whatever, But if there was a
- 36:29Speaker 5: way to put them on a plane and send them
- 36:30Speaker 5: to another country and never see them again, they'd be
- 36:33Speaker 5: prime candidates for it, because if that's what you think
- 36:36Speaker 5: about this country, that that sort of graffiti is the
- 36:39Speaker 5: same as a pothole, then you simply don't belong.
- 36:42Speaker 1: Can we finish on a light note?
- 36:44Speaker 5: Yeah?
- 36:44Speaker 2: Go, it wasn't Victoria, right, there's not enough media to
- 36:47Speaker 2: report on the potholes in that state.
- 36:50Speaker 5: Going to tell me the couple of weeks ago, and
- 36:53Speaker 5: I was there for the races at Warnabull Cheez between
- 36:57Speaker 5: Camperdown and Port Fairy, the road is absolutely shocking, shocking.
- 37:03Speaker 1: There you go. All right, We're gonna go to a break.
- 37:04Speaker 2: When we come back, we'll look at what's making headlines tomorrow,
- 37:07Speaker 2: including a serial killer unmasked after a suppression order has
- 37:11Speaker 2: lifted twenty six years it's been suppressed. He's unmasked on
- 37:15Speaker 2: the front pages of the papers tomorrow. We'll show you
- 37:18Speaker 2: after this break. Welcome back to the program. Let's take
- 37:27Speaker 2: a look at what's making headlines tomorrow.
- 37:28Speaker 1: Didn' they get to Georgio over to you.
- 37:30Speaker 4: Yes, I'm sorry, just said that.
- 37:34Speaker 1: It's just I thought that was a really good throw.
- 37:36Speaker 4: No, sorry, just caught me a bit off. God, Actually
- 37:38Speaker 4: just like your coughing in the ad break. Okay, let's
- 37:40Speaker 4: start with The Australian. The headline they're race to avert
- 37:44Speaker 4: kick in entrepreneurial.
- 37:46Speaker 3: Entrepreneurial. Sorry groin, we done us. Okay.
- 37:50Speaker 4: It says Labour's capital gains tax reform is a grab
- 37:55Speaker 4: without any commensurate benefit that will only hurt workers and
- 37:59Speaker 4: force an inevitable political walkback. Ex Reserve Bank board member
- 38:04Speaker 4: John Poynton has declared as business pushes for a complete
- 38:07Speaker 4: rewhite right of the plan. Anthony Aberezi revealed on Tuesday
- 38:11Speaker 4: he would introduce his housing tax crackdown legislation to Parliament
- 38:15Speaker 4: in the first week of June. As one of the
- 38:17Speaker 4: country's best known deal makers, David Williams said Jim Chalmers
- 38:21Speaker 4: was setting startups back ten years and kicking them in
- 38:25Speaker 4: the balls. He said, that is a direct quotment. You
- 38:28Speaker 4: can't you can't argue with that.
- 38:30Speaker 3: Everyone.
- 38:31Speaker 4: I mean, you've got experts now coming out and saying
- 38:34Speaker 4: how big of a disaster it is and will labor
- 38:37Speaker 4: understand this. No, why because they need you to pay
- 38:41Speaker 4: down their own debts because they have spent money into oblivion.
- 38:46Speaker 5: Well the problem with it is you make money in
- 38:48Speaker 5: the short term, but if you've been in the process security,
- 38:52Speaker 5: business and investment and what it, Well, where's the money
- 38:55Speaker 5: going to come from in future? Right? And you know
- 38:58Speaker 5: they've been propping up with all this rampant migration and
- 39:00Speaker 5: then they go and create government jobs and that's the problem.
- 39:03Speaker 5: We're really not creating jobs in the private sector as
- 39:05Speaker 5: it is. I think this is going to help in
- 39:07Speaker 5: any way.
- 39:08Speaker 2: My favorite part of this article is while business is
- 39:11Speaker 2: pushing against the tax overhaul, the Greens, who hold the
- 39:14Speaker 2: balance of power in the sate, are looking favorably on
- 39:17Speaker 2: the reforms, but want the government to go further.
- 39:20Speaker 3: Of course they do.
- 39:21Speaker 4: Surprise of the Greens are also on the front page.
- 39:24Speaker 4: Life of service and scandal. Former GG archbishop dies. Former
- 39:28Speaker 4: Governor General and Archbishop Peter Hollingworth, who resigned from his
- 39:32Speaker 4: vice regal role over his mishandling of child sex abuse
- 39:35Speaker 4: in the church, died on Monday after a protracted period
- 39:38Speaker 4: of ill health. Doctor Hollingwood, aged ninety one, was a
- 39:41Speaker 4: retired Anglican archbishop who rose to prominence as a powerful
- 39:45Speaker 4: advocate for the disadvantage, principally through his role as the
- 39:49Speaker 4: long term head of the Brotherhood of Saint Lawrence.
- 39:52Speaker 3: So there you go, ninety one years old.
- 39:54Speaker 2: I think that's a pretty unfair headline, life of service
- 39:57Speaker 2: and scandal.
- 39:59Speaker 1: He lived a life of s ser He did not
- 40:00Speaker 1: have a life of scandal.
- 40:02Speaker 3: Yeah, that's true.
- 40:03Speaker 2: He was not found guilty of any crime. He was
- 40:05Speaker 2: not found responsible for any abuse that occurred as a
- 40:09Speaker 2: result of his decisions. He was found to have made
- 40:13Speaker 2: some pretty poor decisions, which he was reprimanded for as
- 40:16Speaker 2: he should have been, and which he apologized for as
- 40:19Speaker 2: he should have. I just think to reduce or to
- 40:24Speaker 2: talk about a life of scandal, I think is a
- 40:26Speaker 2: bit unfair for a man who was a social justice champion.
- 40:30Speaker 5: Life of scandal, life of service and scandal. Scandal was
- 40:33Speaker 5: involved in his life, That's true. He had to leave
- 40:36Speaker 5: his GG because of it. I don't think that's unfit
- 40:39Speaker 5: to notice it.
- 40:40Speaker 2: It seems to equate service and scandal on the same level,
- 40:44Speaker 2: where I just think he did a lot more good
- 40:47Speaker 2: than the stupid mistake he made in allowing a sex
- 40:52Speaker 2: offender to remain in his position, probably which he should
- 40:56Speaker 2: never have done. It was a terrible thing to do,
- 40:58Speaker 2: but it wasn't a criminals. No one was abused because
- 41:02Speaker 2: of that decision, no matter how bad it was.
- 41:04Speaker 1: I just think it's a bit unfair.
- 41:06Speaker 5: There were probably victims of sexual abuse that disagree with
- 41:09Speaker 5: that assessment.
- 41:10Speaker 1: They would have thought, I'm sure they would do.
- 41:11Speaker 5: But yeah, I would say in the running of the headline,
- 41:13Speaker 5: they're the two things that are prominent in his life
- 41:18Speaker 5: from the public perspective. Anyway, I didn't see a problem
- 41:20Speaker 5: with it being noted in that way.
- 41:21Speaker 2: All right, let's go to the front page of the
- 41:23Speaker 2: Daily Telegraph. It's no joke, reads the headline. Anthony Albanezi
- 41:27Speaker 2: has laughed off social media attacks from small business owners
- 41:31Speaker 2: who were set to hemorrhage profits under his sweeping tax changes.
- 41:34Speaker 2: But new research reveals a serious dilemma for to stress
- 41:37Speaker 2: traders like those featured on the front page of the Telegraph.
- 41:40Speaker 2: With business confidence at a near twenty year low, and
- 41:44Speaker 2: they're increasing signs. This is what I found most interesting
- 41:47Speaker 2: of division amongst labor MPs over the major budget tax grabs.
- 41:53Speaker 2: Do you think as public opinion is starting to turn
- 41:56Speaker 2: all of a sudden, some of these labor MPs, who,
- 41:59Speaker 2: to be honest, have been pretty cocky for quite some
- 42:03Speaker 2: time and have had good reason too, because they've really
- 42:05Speaker 2: faced no opposition. But now all of a sudden the
- 42:09Speaker 2: heat being turned on the government and there's a few
- 42:12Speaker 2: nervous nellies all of a sudden.
- 42:13Speaker 5: I think there'd probably be a number of labor MP's
- 42:16Speaker 5: in outer suburban areas who'd be looking now and going,
- 42:20Speaker 5: oh gee, you've got one nation will be hot on
- 42:23Speaker 5: our tail and the opposition is obviously going to hammer
- 42:27Speaker 5: us over this budget. These are the sort of aspirational
- 42:30Speaker 5: people who might have a small business and trying to
- 42:32Speaker 5: save up the money to get out of the rental
- 42:34Speaker 5: market and buy a home, and they're not going to
- 42:36Speaker 5: like this stuff. I'm not surprised.
- 42:38Speaker 4: Well, this is the face of it, isn't it, you know?
- 42:40Speaker 4: And it is it actually is no laughing matter. Yes,
- 42:42Speaker 4: the Prime Minister fobbed it off today, but this is
- 42:45Speaker 4: the coal face of the impact that the budget is
- 42:48Speaker 4: going to have. I mean, these are every day mums
- 42:50Speaker 4: and dads trying to make a living, trying to run
- 42:52Speaker 4: a business, and the labor government is stifling them at
- 42:56Speaker 4: every turn.
- 42:58Speaker 5: On the front of the advertiser tomorrow, big story out
- 43:01Speaker 5: of Adelaide. Okay, see the evil as the headline. This
- 43:04Speaker 5: picture of quadruple bodies in the barrels killer James Sparridon Vlasarkus,
- 43:11Speaker 5: I think That'll do was more than a quarter of
- 43:13Speaker 5: a century in the making. In a seismic decision on Tuesday,
- 43:17Speaker 5: the state's highest court revoked orders that have banned publication
- 43:21Speaker 5: of Lasarkus's image for the past twenty six years. This is,
- 43:25Speaker 5: of course, the Snowtown killings. Twelve men were killed as
- 43:29Speaker 5: part of that, and mister Lasarkus till this time has
- 43:35Speaker 5: not been able to have his face his image published.
- 43:39Speaker 5: There was suppression orders on it. Now he ratted out
- 43:41Speaker 5: against the other blokes and gave evidence against them. He
- 43:44Speaker 5: spent five years in solitary confinement because of that, and
- 43:48Speaker 5: part of the reasoning, I think was that they thought
- 43:51Speaker 5: that he could be in potential danger if he was revealed.
- 43:54Speaker 5: But he applied last year for parole. The parole board
- 43:59Speaker 5: gave it, but the state government opposed it and it
- 44:02Speaker 5: was overturned. He has the opportunity again in a couple
- 44:05Speaker 5: of months to go for parole again. So it's in
- 44:08Speaker 5: the midst of all of this that the court has
- 44:10Speaker 5: now allowed his image to be shown for the first time.
- 44:13Speaker 5: But I mean, you know, in terms of murder cases
- 44:15Speaker 5: in this country, they don't get much bigger than Snowtown.
- 44:18Speaker 5: To think that we've waited twenty six years to see
- 44:21Speaker 5: the face of one of those murderers.
- 44:23Speaker 3: Yeah, incredible.
- 44:25Speaker 1: Huge.
- 44:26Speaker 4: Let's have a look at the Herald Sun Bikey's Colours band,
- 44:30Speaker 4: the state's most feared biki gangs, have been banned from
- 44:32Speaker 4: wearing club insignia under new organized crime laws. The Hell's Angels,
- 44:37Speaker 4: Common Cero's Bandidos and Mongols are among thirteen gangs banned
- 44:42Speaker 4: from wearing their colors. Well, you know, fair enough, I
- 44:45Speaker 4: would say I think there's a problem. But also just
- 44:48Speaker 4: the story on the front page. What we were just
- 44:50Speaker 4: talking about cowards. They're the two women accused of spray
- 44:54Speaker 4: painting vile messages covering themselves up.
- 44:58Speaker 3: So good to.
- 44:59Speaker 4: See that they're aimes are published on the front page.
- 45:02Speaker 2: All right, And the Courier Mail has a really interesting
- 45:05Speaker 2: story regarding the upcoming Olympic Games. Queensland's twenty thirty two. Shame,
- 45:11Speaker 2: there'll be eleven thousand beds short. Games Hotel room crisis
- 45:15Speaker 2: reads the headline. Queensland will fall embarrassingly short of the
- 45:18Speaker 2: hotel rooms needed to host all the visitors expected for
- 45:21Speaker 2: the twenty thirty two Olympic Games, according to a new
- 45:24Speaker 2: study that says one new hotel will need to be
- 45:27Speaker 2: built every month over the next six years to meet demand.
- 45:31Speaker 1: Now do you reckon that's achievable?
- 45:34Speaker 3: What do you think, James? What do you reckon?
- 45:37Speaker 1: James?
- 45:37Speaker 5: Build houses exactly?
- 45:39Speaker 2: I mean, for goodness, one new hotel every month for
- 45:42Speaker 2: the next six years, but with only eighteen new ones
- 45:45Speaker 2: expected between now and twenty thirty two, that.
- 45:49Speaker 1: Will leave eleven thousand people were out.
- 45:52Speaker 4: You've forgot the most important thing on the front page
- 45:54Speaker 4: of the courier. What about Kylie and Jason reuniting?
- 45:57Speaker 1: Yeah, it was Jason her great love.
- 46:00Speaker 3: Well on neighbors, Yeah, neighbors that I.
- 46:04Speaker 5: Was more interested in the one below. It's Stephanie Alexander's
- 46:07Speaker 5: crab sand That's what's got time.
- 46:09Speaker 4: I can see the three different personalities on this show.
- 46:13Speaker 1: All right, we're going to go to a break when
- 46:15Speaker 1: we come back.
- 46:16Speaker 2: I am pretty sure we have found the world's worst drivers.
- 46:19Speaker 1: That's coming up after this.
- 46:25Speaker 2: Okay, we have almost found the worst driver in the world.
- 46:28Speaker 2: I say almost because we've narrowed it down. I think
- 46:30Speaker 2: to two. I'll let you go first, Cab.
- 46:33Speaker 5: James McPherson and I'm sorry, sorry, there are a couple
- 46:37Speaker 5: of other entries. It's time for.
- 46:43Speaker 1: The day.
- 46:46Speaker 5: Actually, it was unfair to include Deaneka in that, I
- 46:48Speaker 5: think because I have been driven by Danika and she
- 46:50Speaker 5: was perfectly fine driver. To be fair, I've been driven
- 46:54Speaker 5: by you and you were fine too, but you rack
- 46:55Speaker 5: up so many speeding funs. It's not funny, I know.
- 46:58Speaker 1: But we got there fast.
- 47:00Speaker 5: Yeah, there is that. This bloke was trying to get
- 47:02Speaker 5: there fast and well it worked out well for him,
- 47:04Speaker 5: didn't it. Take a look at this bloke from Wiltshire
- 47:07Speaker 5: in England who thought he'd, you know, show what he
- 47:09Speaker 5: could do in his new Beamer until he couldn't. I
- 47:22Speaker 5: looked at There's one rule. If you're gonna show off
- 47:25Speaker 5: the skiddies, you gotta know how to do it. How
- 47:29Speaker 5: embarrassing is that He's like, look at me, I'm king dick,
- 47:33Speaker 5: I'm so cool, and then bang off into the head.
- 47:36Speaker 5: You know.
- 47:37Speaker 4: I feel like guys that drive like that think women go,
- 47:39Speaker 4: oh my god.
- 47:40Speaker 3: Like you're just so hot, like, ah God.
- 47:44Speaker 5: Give you do that again?
- 47:45Speaker 3: What?
- 47:46Speaker 4: Oh my god, Oh my god, Like it's so hot,
- 47:49Speaker 4: you're like rounding your engine.
- 47:50Speaker 5: I'm soaring every time you do that.
- 47:52Speaker 2: Seriously, it's just can I didn't see anything wrong with that.
- 47:55Speaker 2: That's how my sister parks all the time. If anything,
- 48:01Speaker 2: the guy should be jailed for the color of the car.
- 48:02Speaker 1: Did you see the color of the disgusting?
- 48:06Speaker 4: The whole thing is disgusting. I just I cannot stand
- 48:08Speaker 4: blokes at drive like.
- 48:09Speaker 2: That's all right, So that's our first entrant for worst
- 48:12Speaker 2: driver of the Week. But there's another guy, not a
- 48:15Speaker 2: BMW driver, an Audi driver this time, who tried to
- 48:18Speaker 2: drive down a cobbled street in Kent protected by bollards
- 48:23Speaker 2: so it's usually used by pedestrians and if any unauthorized
- 48:27Speaker 2: vehicles try to traverse this cobbled laneway, the bollards automatically
- 48:31Speaker 2: go up, as they did, hoisting his Audi into the air.
- 48:36Speaker 2: So that was his unfortunate predicament.
- 48:40Speaker 3: How that happen, though, who would you rather be?
- 48:41Speaker 1: Danika? The guy who crashed into the hedge or that guy.
- 48:45Speaker 4: I think that guy because I think the guy crashed
- 48:46Speaker 4: into the hedge rates himself so highly.
- 48:49Speaker 1: So well he's now being.
- 48:52Speaker 4: Yeah, well they're both as bad as each other. Let's
- 48:56Speaker 4: stay over in the UK now, armed cops who guard
- 48:59Speaker 4: the King at Windsor Castle some are facing investigation amid
- 49:03Speaker 4: claims that they knotted off on the job. I mean
- 49:05Speaker 4: they have one job and clearly apparently they couldn't do it.
- 49:08Speaker 4: Up to thirty officers from the METS, Royalty and Specialist
- 49:10Speaker 4: Protection Unit are.
- 49:12Speaker 3: Being looked at for misconduct.
- 49:14Speaker 4: It's also alleged the guards left their posts unattended, which
- 49:17Speaker 4: is a security breach at one of Britain's most sensitive sites.
- 49:21Speaker 4: The King in Royal household have been briefed about the
- 49:24Speaker 4: weary watchmen. I mean they have one job, guys, stay awake,
- 49:27Speaker 4: stay alert and guard the King.
- 49:30Speaker 2: My favorite part of this is one of the police
- 49:33Speaker 2: officials said falling asleep while on shift quote falls below
- 49:36Speaker 2: the high standards expected.
- 49:38Speaker 5: Oh funny about who knew they could probably just go
- 49:41Speaker 5: and give them a good provision of coffee in that
- 49:43Speaker 5: much sort? Do you reckon?
- 49:45Speaker 2: That's it from us toick around coming up is the
- 49:47Speaker 2: read a Penalty show.
- 49:48Speaker 1: We'll see it tomorrow night.