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- 0:00Speaker 1: Kate Sobrano's back in town. She's got a show at
- 0:02Speaker 1: the Astor Theatre tonight at the Mandra Performing Arts Centre,
- 0:05Speaker 1: which is a beautiful venue, tomorrow night, and at Hart
- 0:08Speaker 1: in Margaret River on Sunday. for the Australian Made Encore
- 0:13Speaker 1: Tour 2026. Good morning, Kate Sobrano.
- 0:14Speaker 2: Good morning, Kate. Good morning. Good morning, fine people of Perth.
- 0:17Speaker 1: When I said heart in Margaret River, I started hearing
- 0:20Speaker 1: you sing heart.
- 0:21Speaker 2: She's got the heart. From still my favourite album, Kate
- 0:25Speaker 2: Sobrano and the Septet. You know, I still put it on. Lisa.
- 0:29Speaker 2: So often. When I'm listening to artists like Ray or
- 0:32Speaker 2: Olivia Rodriguez, these guys, or even Levee. I think of
- 0:37Speaker 2: myself as a 17-year-old and I said, you just peaked
- 0:39Speaker 2: too soon, young lady. Because I was right cresting on
- 0:43Speaker 2: this wave of jazz, making jazz really available as a
- 0:47Speaker 2: sort of pop artist. Yeah. And look, and I'm still
- 0:50Speaker 2: doing that, but you only get one. Well, don't worry.
- 0:53Speaker 2: Back then. It did.
- 0:54Speaker 3: I mean, it was such a.
- 0:55Speaker 2: I am still playing it to today.
- 0:56Speaker 3: It was such a pivot at the time, but it just.
- 1:01Speaker 2: Yeah.
- 1:01Speaker 3: It worked your time to beautiful.
- 1:02Speaker 2: Well, it was a powerful gesture as an artist. Yeah.
- 1:06Speaker 2: Because what it said to people, it was like, I
- 1:08Speaker 2: don't care. I'm just playing dress ups. Let's not get
- 1:11Speaker 2: serious about this. Like I'll peg myself and discover new
- 1:15Speaker 2: ways to art. And entertain myself for as long as
- 1:19Speaker 2: I'm able to. And that's what I've been doing for
- 1:21Speaker 2: 60 years.
- 1:22Speaker 1: I would say that was my introduction to jazz, you know, really,
- 1:25Speaker 1: in a way. Like Ray, as you mentioned, is now
- 1:27Speaker 1: introducing a new. So we rely on, you know, you people.
- 1:31Speaker 1: But now this is Australian made and these songs are
- 1:34Speaker 1: also incredible.
- 1:35Speaker 2: Well, and it's interesting you mention it. Let's put it
- 1:38Speaker 2: into that phase where you're introducing music. Yes. My daughter's
- 1:42Speaker 2: 22 and hasn't heard half of the material, all the
- 1:45Speaker 2: artists anymore.
- 1:46Speaker 3: Yeah.
- 1:46Speaker 2: Her generation are just barely able to remember In Excess
- 1:50Speaker 2: or Michael Hutchence. Yeah. Oh my God. And Jimmy Barnes
- 1:53Speaker 2: they know only because I've been touring with them. Yeah.
- 1:56Speaker 2: I'm talking Remain Very Fresh to this day and actually
- 2:00Speaker 2: remarkably still the album which just, they just did a
- 2:04Speaker 2: re-release of the album, the vinyl, and got it number
- 2:09Speaker 2: one in the charts again after 40 years.
- 2:10Speaker 3: That's amazing.
- 2:11Speaker 2: But I mean everyone else is sort of like, I
- 2:14Speaker 2: mean their generation doesn't know who George Harrison was.
- 2:16Speaker 3: No.
- 2:17Speaker 2: Um, so I am doing, I think a very social
- 2:21Speaker 2: gesture by keeping my friends living and their beautiful work
- 2:25Speaker 2: and music. Um, I'm also doing a bit of history lesson.
- 2:28Speaker 2: I go back into the seventies and, and I'm pulling
- 2:31Speaker 2: forward the music that shaped me as a young teenager. Um,
- 2:36Speaker 2: you know, working with Shirley Strawn, I've worked in written
- 2:39Speaker 2: with all the artists I'm performing. Yeah. Paul Kelly, um,
- 2:44Speaker 2: John Farnham. I mean, everyone that I'll be performing are
- 2:46Speaker 2: people who I classify as friends. Yep. It's a good thing.
- 2:51Speaker 3: I mean, it's a service that you're doing because, you know–
- 2:55Speaker 3: To make them understand how big that was, that original
- 2:58Speaker 3: Australian made tour, which was in Perth in the.
- 3:02Speaker 2: Beginning of 87, I think.
- 3:04Speaker 1: It was.
- 3:04Speaker 2: It was January. 50,000 people. It was incredible.
- 3:06Speaker 3: You're about last at the venue because that's not there anymore.
- 3:09Speaker 2: It was hot as Hades. You guys would have been
- 3:12Speaker 2: too young, actually.
- 3:14Speaker 1: No, no, no, no, no. Thanks, Kate.
- 3:16Speaker 3: No?
- 3:16Speaker 2: No, Kate. We mentioned your age before. We are turning
- 3:19Speaker 2: the same age at this point. Are we? It was
- 3:21Speaker 2: the Royal Firehorses this year.
- 3:23Speaker 3: Oh, duh. Believe me, we remember Australia, mate.
- 3:26Speaker 2: Oh, yes.
- 3:26Speaker 3: Very, very well.
- 3:27Speaker 2: This is a room of genetics. And it actually, it
- 3:30Speaker 2: was the shape-shifting for the way we conceive of ourselves
- 3:33Speaker 2: as Australians.
- 3:34Speaker 3: Yes.
- 3:34Speaker 2: And important as musicians. I loved the swagger. Chris, who
- 3:39Speaker 2: was the agent and the manager for NXS. Yes. He,
- 3:43Speaker 2: let's just say, he sublimated all that concept of like superstardom.
- 3:48Speaker 3: Yep.
- 3:49Speaker 2: He took all the cringe away and just said, no,
- 3:51Speaker 2: we're putting us on the slab and you will not
- 3:53Speaker 2: tell us that an all Australian lineup can fail where
- 3:58Speaker 2: a lot of people said, it's not going to work, mate.
- 4:00Speaker 2: You have to have someone else. You've got to have
- 4:01Speaker 2: a Led Zeppelin or you've got to have a Fleetwood
- 4:03Speaker 2: Mac or you've got to have a, and he was saying, no,
- 4:05Speaker 2: actually you just want Aussies.
- 4:07Speaker 3: And they came.
- 4:08Speaker 2: And they. Huge.
- 4:11Speaker 3: I've got the book actually at home.
- 4:12Speaker 2: The book and the film is fascinating. Yeah. And I
- 4:16Speaker 2: probably go into that and also by the kind of
- 4:20Speaker 2: the culture that I have on stage with me. They're
- 4:21Speaker 2: young kids too. Younger. Lots younger than me. But we
- 4:27Speaker 2: take that music and we have kind of given it
- 4:31Speaker 2: the context and the times and the stories. And it
- 4:35Speaker 2: doesn't get sort of too mellow, I've got to be honest.
- 4:38Speaker 2: It's not like a storyteller's like, no, I fang it.
- 4:41Speaker 2: I'm on the drums. Good. Two guitarists. I feel like
- 4:43Speaker 2: I'm in a chariot most of the night just riding
- 4:46Speaker 2: with these wild, crazy horses and I love it.
- 4:50Speaker 1: You have described it as like the encore tour is
- 4:54Speaker 1: the same again but a different gear.
- 4:56Speaker 2: Yeah, well, I.
- 4:59Speaker 2: Use the template of my friends, but we're just performing
- 5:02Speaker 2: different material. Yeah. So it's the same, same, but different.
- 5:06Speaker 2: And then the versions of course have been sort of
- 5:08Speaker 2: somewhat altered, but the shape of the show is the same.
- 5:11Speaker 2: We still take it with the same kind of, I
- 5:14Speaker 2: want to say. Say it. Well, if you are there,
- 5:18Speaker 2: the way you could only describe it is it's a
- 5:20Speaker 2: bit of a banshee. Like it's not mellow for anyone
- 5:23Speaker 2: who's coming. And I know that, um, when people come
- 5:26Speaker 2: up to me, they go, oh, are you still gigging
- 5:28Speaker 2: these days? These are people my age. And I turn
- 5:31Speaker 2: to them often. I go, you don't get out much anymore,
- 5:33Speaker 2: do you? And so what I want to say to
- 5:36Speaker 2: all my friends and my vintage, um, it is exactly
- 5:40Speaker 2: what you want. You want to actually, uh, let go
- 5:44Speaker 2: of restraint and just really revel in your memories. And
- 5:48Speaker 2: I say to people, don't look at me. I'm not,
- 5:51Speaker 2: I'm not there as a sort of like little fart
- 5:53Speaker 2: in a bottle for you to to sort of focus on.
- 5:55Speaker 2: I want you to focus on your memories. And so
- 5:58Speaker 2: consequently in the room when I'm performing. I imagine above
- 6:03Speaker 2: people's heads like a thousand pictures of where they were,
- 6:08Speaker 2: who they were kissing, the breakups, the love affairs, the
- 6:11Speaker 2: school uniforms, the idle days of doing nothing and wishing
- 6:16Speaker 2: for everything, the getting everything you wanted and wishing you
- 6:19Speaker 2: had less. It's like, you know, I have this whole
- 6:22Speaker 2: story right in above all the audience's heads and that's
- 6:25Speaker 2: what entertains me. It's amazing.
- 6:28Speaker 1: The West Coast cooler with a Chico roll.
- 6:31Speaker 2: The big air meds. Yeah. I mean, we had a
- 6:35Speaker 2: house in teenage life because for those idle hours of
- 6:43Speaker 2: dreaming up our futures.
- 6:44Speaker 3: Yeah.
- 6:45Speaker 2: We weren't chasing trends or being told what to become.
- 6:48Speaker 2: Or looking for likes. Or getting like little, you know,
- 6:51Speaker 2: like a chipmunk, cheeks full of, you know, information we
- 6:54Speaker 2: don't need. Seriously.
- 6:56Speaker 3: And because things are so fragmented these days, you know,
- 6:58Speaker 3: there's lots of little tribes, whereas back then everyone came together. And,
- 7:05Speaker 3: you know, we talk about Australia May, we talk about Countdown,
- 7:07Speaker 3: we talk about the top 40 on the radio. It
- 7:10Speaker 3: was more of a community back then rather than being fragmented.
- 7:13Speaker 3: So everybody shares.
- 7:15Speaker 2: The same memories. Yes.
- 7:17Speaker 3: I mean, obviously of their own, but it's more of
- 7:21Speaker 3: a shared experience.
- 7:22Speaker 2: I love nostalgia so much. It's a shared experience. And
- 7:26Speaker 2: it's something that you can't impart to generations that are
- 7:28Speaker 2: happening today. They just don't understand. They're like, I don't
- 7:31Speaker 2: get it. I just feel like I'm the only one
- 7:33Speaker 2: that ever lived. I'm on an island. A lot of
- 7:35Speaker 2: kids have this terrible feeling they're entirely alone. And like
- 7:39Speaker 2: you said, today actually came up that Fremantle's playing Hawthorne, right?
- 7:44Speaker 2: And I'm a Hawke supporter. So, of course, I'm like, whoa,
- 7:47Speaker 2: don't say that. But actually, where would we be without
- 7:51Speaker 2: that incredible energy of owning a team and being part
- 7:56Speaker 2: of a tribe? We don't do it so that we
- 7:59Speaker 2: love all the teams. No, what we do is so
- 8:02Speaker 2: that we have this lusty kind of game where we
- 8:05Speaker 2: can enjoy going, oh, And just yell at each other.
- 8:11Speaker 2: No one gets hurt. No major consequences. You walk away.
- 8:14Speaker 2: You've had a few beers. You're happy. You're not going
- 8:17Speaker 2: to kick the cat because you're angry at the dog. No.
- 8:20Speaker 2: We're exactly what you said. We're a community when you're
- 8:25Speaker 2: in that moment. And I reckon music is community in
- 8:29Speaker 2: kind of like a sound bubble. Yeah. It should be
- 8:32Speaker 2: loved and it should be respected. I don't think that
- 8:35Speaker 2: people truly understand how valuable it is. And the only
- 8:39Speaker 2: way they'll know is if it were to be taken away,
- 8:41Speaker 2: which lets God help us, it never happens. Yeah. But
- 8:44Speaker 2: I can say that right now, the other day when
- 8:46Speaker 2: I saw in the ARIA charts, there were no Australian
- 8:48Speaker 2: acts in the top 10. I'm thinking, oof. This is
- 8:52Speaker 2: not a good sign, people.
- 8:53Speaker 3: And that's how lucky we were.
- 8:54Speaker 2: We were.
- 8:55Speaker 3: We had something that we could own.
- 8:58Speaker 2: List them, shall we?
- 8:59Speaker 3: Yep.
- 8:59Speaker 2: Farnham.
- 9:01Speaker 3: Models. Models.
- 9:02Speaker 2: They're all going to be on this show. Hunters and collectors.
- 9:04Speaker 1: You are the perfect conduit for this and our memories.
- 9:08Speaker 2: I'm talking.
- 9:09Speaker 1: Yes.
- 9:10Speaker 2: And I'm talking.
- 9:11Speaker 1: KateSobrano.com is where you can get tickets for tonight at
- 9:15Speaker 1: the ASTA, tomorrow at the Mandurah Performing Arts Centre, or
- 9:18Speaker 1: head down to Margaret River for a show on Sunday
- 9:20Speaker 1: at Hart.
- 9:21Speaker 2: Lovely, as always, to see you. And so nice to
- 9:24Speaker 2: talk to you all. I just want to say, did
- 9:26Speaker 2: you ever have a Melways? We had a Melways, which
- 9:28Speaker 2: was like a street. Ours was called the UBD.
- 9:30Speaker 3: The UBD, yeah.
- 9:32Speaker 2: So I want people to come, considering that this concert
- 9:36Speaker 2: is rather like an analogue musical version of a UBD.
- 9:40Speaker 2: It sounded like a venereal disease.
- 9:43Speaker 1: I know.
- 9:43Speaker 2: That's why we don't have them anymore. We cleared them up.
- 9:49Speaker 2: I want to know that we'll be going down streets
- 9:51Speaker 2: that you used to live. Yes. And the streets where
- 9:53Speaker 2: your girlfriends and boyfriends used to live. Yeah, yeah. I
- 9:57Speaker 2: love it.
- 9:57Speaker 3: Kate, thank you so much.