Latest / HEAVY Music Interviews / Half A Century Of Metal: ADRIAN SMITH Talks About MAIDEN's Biggest Aussie Tour Yet
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- 0:00Speaker 1: This is Adrian Smith from Iron Maiden.
- 0:01Speaker 2: We're going to be coming down under in a little
- 0:04Speaker 2: while and we're looking forward to seeing you all.
- 0:08Speaker 3: Fantastic. Adrian, thanks for joining us today.
- 0:12Speaker 1: My pleasure.
- 0:14Speaker 4: As you say, brother, Iron Maiden are headed back this
- 0:16Speaker 4: way for the eighth time in November for the Australian
- 0:19Speaker 4: and New Zealand League of the Run for Your Lives
- 0:21Speaker 4: World Tour, which kicks off in Auckland on November 7th
- 0:24Speaker 4: and 8th before heading to Australia for shows in Adelaide,
- 0:26Speaker 4: Melbourne and Sydney, then finishing over two nights in Brisbane
- 0:29Speaker 4: on November 18th and 19th.
- 0:32Speaker 3: Not long now, man. Are you packed and ready to go?
- 0:35Speaker 1: Certainly are. We certainly had plenty of practices.
- 0:40Speaker 2: We've been on the road. Well, I've been on the
- 0:42Speaker 2: road about six months, so We did have a break.
- 0:47Speaker 2: Gone all through America. We're going through South America. We're
- 0:50Speaker 2: in Buenos Aires at the moment. Got a big gig tonight.
- 0:54Speaker 2: A couple more shows going down to Brazil, Chile, and
- 0:56Speaker 2: then off to New Zealand and then Australia.
- 0:59Speaker 1: So we roll on.
- 1:02Speaker 4: We roll on indeed. The tour started in Budapest last May, mate.
- 1:06Speaker 4: So did it all seem like one big blur to you, mate,
- 1:09Speaker 4: or do you actually get time to sort of take
- 1:11Speaker 4: it in and enjoy it sometimes? Yeah.
- 1:14Speaker 2: I mean, I'm just saying to someone else, I mean,
- 1:16Speaker 2: in the eighties, we'd have, uh, you know, 10, 12
- 1:19Speaker 2: month tour and you'd be doing seven, eight, nine, 10
- 1:22Speaker 2: shows in a row.
- 1:23Speaker 1: It's like, that was a blur.
- 1:26Speaker 2: Now we, our schedule is, uh, not so heavy. We
- 1:29Speaker 2: have three months on the road. Uh, you know, you get,
- 1:33Speaker 2: usually get, we do two in a row. Mostly we,
- 1:36Speaker 2: we want to, uh, put out the, the, the songs
- 1:40Speaker 2: demand that you play them with energy and the crowd
- 1:43Speaker 2: kind of demand it. So the way we do that
- 1:45Speaker 2: is we, we, you know, we don't have the same
- 1:48Speaker 2: heavy schedule. So we, we try to keep the quality up,
- 1:51Speaker 2: you know, um, and it's a two hour show as well, you.
- 1:55Speaker 1: Know, but it's great.
- 1:56Speaker 2: I mean, it's just, we're really, just really loving playing this,
- 2:00Speaker 2: this set. And, uh, there's been a lot of demand for,
- 2:03Speaker 2: you know, it's like a 50th anniversary.
- 2:05Speaker 1: So it's, And it's cold from the first nine albums.
- 2:10Speaker 2: So we've even had to put more dates in next
- 2:11Speaker 2: year because the demand is there for it, which is fantastic.
- 2:15Speaker 1: There's a lot of young, new fans. It's amazing, amazing, really.
- 2:20Speaker 4: And one of those lines actually, mate, like you recently
- 2:22Speaker 4: mentioned that you're enjoying playing live now as much, if
- 2:26Speaker 4: not more than ever, and you're noticing a massive influx
- 2:28Speaker 4: of younger fans. Well, what's the vibe like when I
- 2:31Speaker 4: had made lands in Australia compared to the rest of
- 2:33Speaker 4: the world? And what makes fans over here... different to
- 2:35Speaker 4: anywhere else in the world.
- 2:38Speaker 3: Yeah.
- 2:38Speaker 1: It's always been, uh, we've always had a good, good, uh,
- 2:41Speaker 1: bond with, um, Australia.
- 2:43Speaker 2: You know, I think, uh, the Brits and the Aussies
- 2:46Speaker 2: always got a little bit of a bond, although there's
- 2:48Speaker 2: a little bit of friction there sometimes when we, when
- 2:52Speaker 2: there's a cricket ball or rugby ball involved, but, um, no,
- 2:57Speaker 2: I mean.
- 2:58Speaker 1: Uh, it's always great.
- 2:59Speaker 2: We always love, I mean, it's just a great country,
- 3:02Speaker 2: you know, uh, it's always fun to play there.
- 3:06Speaker 1: So we look forward to it, yeah.
- 3:07Speaker 4: I was just going to say, like, a lot of
- 3:08Speaker 4: those lines, I know you can't pick favourites, but you're
- 3:11Speaker 4: looking out there and you're seeing all the old fans
- 3:13Speaker 4: in the crowd, but then you're seeing the younger ones
- 3:15Speaker 4: in too. Like, what gives you more satisfaction, having the
- 3:18Speaker 4: next generation come through or having the same people there.
- 3:21Speaker 3: For the whole time?
- 3:23Speaker 2: Hey, it's all about, it's about people are there for
- 3:29Speaker 2: the same reason, whether you're young or old. You know,
- 3:31Speaker 2: sometimes you see, you know, father, son, and, you know,
- 3:35Speaker 2: the father's father there, you know, literally. So it's a
- 3:41Speaker 2: sense of, you know, togetherness. The band and the audience,
- 3:46Speaker 2: we're all there for the same reason, pretty much. You know,
- 3:49Speaker 2: we're there to play and entertain and people are there
- 3:52Speaker 2: to see us. And we find people, you know, I've
- 3:56Speaker 2: seen people on this tour have been following us around.
- 3:58Speaker 2: They come to every show in the front row. And
- 4:02Speaker 2: It's nice, really, because these people meet up. They become
- 4:06Speaker 2: friends through the band. They have a relationship outside the band. Obviously,
- 4:10Speaker 2: the band is the common factor. But it's almost like
- 4:16Speaker 2: a family thing, you know, at this point. And it's
- 4:20Speaker 2: nice to see. And it's great to see the youngsters.
- 4:23Speaker 2: You need new blood, you know.
- 4:25Speaker 4: Hell, yeah.
- 4:25Speaker 2: Yeah.
- 4:27Speaker 4: You sort of touched on this beforehand, but you're only
- 4:29Speaker 4: drawing from the first nine albums, so basically half of
- 4:33Speaker 4: your catalogue you're playing on this. So why decide to
- 4:35Speaker 4: cover just half on this one?
- 4:39Speaker 2: Well, it's just, I mean, the very beginning of the show,
- 4:44Speaker 2: sort of, we have these screens.
- 4:47Speaker 1: It's an incredible show.
- 4:48Speaker 2: I mean, I can't take credit for the screen and
- 4:51Speaker 2: the actual production.
- 4:53Speaker 1: We had a great team doing that.
- 4:56Speaker 2: But it's sort of, it goes with the origins of
- 5:00Speaker 2: the band, where the band came from, and it sort
- 5:03Speaker 2: of builds up. And then we come on and we
- 5:05Speaker 2: open up with Murders in a Rue Morgue, which is
- 5:08Speaker 2: on the Killers album. It's probably one of the first
- 5:10Speaker 2: songs I ever recorded with Iron Maiden. And we haven't
- 5:13Speaker 2: played it for years and years and years. And we
- 5:15Speaker 2: dug it up. It sounds great. It sounds fresh. It's
- 5:21Speaker 2: a lot of high energy. It's just a great way
- 5:23Speaker 2: to open the show. So, you know, we'd like to
- 5:25Speaker 2: have a theme to tour around rather than just randomly
- 5:29Speaker 2: going around and playing the same old, same old, same old.
- 5:32Speaker 2: We like to try and take a period of the
- 5:34Speaker 2: band and put it with the artwork. And the artwork
- 5:38Speaker 2: on the screens emphasises the songs, for example, like Romney,
- 5:42Speaker 2: Ancient Mariner. You've got the whole story there of the poem,
- 5:47Speaker 2: you know. So people are really just loving that. because
- 5:51Speaker 2: it just marries perfectly with the music. You know, the
- 5:53Speaker 2: music's very dramatic. There's a lot of history in it.
- 5:57Speaker 2: So there's a real depth to it, you know?
- 5:59Speaker 3: Yeah, cool.
- 6:02Speaker 4: And look, as a guitarist, what's it be like dusting
- 6:04Speaker 4: off and rehearsing tracks that you might not have played
- 6:06Speaker 4: live in a while? Does muscle memory kick in, or
- 6:09Speaker 4: do you have to go back and relearn some songs?
- 6:12Speaker 1: You know what?
- 6:12Speaker 2: It's a lot of muscle memory, and it's amazing how
- 6:16Speaker 2: you can just– there'll be a few things, you know,
- 6:19Speaker 2: that you might have to go back and listen to.
- 6:21Speaker 2: But in the main, you just kind of, it's just there,
- 6:26Speaker 2: you know, and you can just recall it. You know,
- 6:32Speaker 2: it's quite amazing, really. It's stuff you haven't played for
- 6:35Speaker 2: 20 years. We can usually play it, you know, more
- 6:39Speaker 2: or less correctly, you know, straight away.
- 6:43Speaker 4: Yeah, so being the 50th anniversary tour, these songs have
- 6:46Speaker 4: been with you for a long time. So are there
- 6:48Speaker 4: any that you're sort of dusting out for this that
- 6:51Speaker 4: maybe back in the day you didn't connect with so well,
- 6:53Speaker 4: but now you're actually enjoying them in a different light?
- 6:57Speaker 2: It's very different, you know, from the 80s to now.
- 7:03Speaker 2: I mean, the schedule's not so heavy. Technically, you know,
- 7:09Speaker 2: the lighting now, I remember in the 80s, The light,
- 7:13Speaker 2: it was like being under sunlamps that was so hot
- 7:17Speaker 2: and you had to work so hard and you were
- 7:19Speaker 2: just pouring with sweat after two songs. The monitoring is
- 7:24Speaker 2: not what it is now. Now you have in-ear monitors.
- 7:27Speaker 2: It's like listening to a record, whereas like in the 80s,
- 7:31Speaker 2: it could have been a cacophony of sound and you
- 7:34Speaker 2: couldn't hear what the other, you know, somewhere was dark
- 7:37Speaker 2: and you'd Dave or, you know, all I could hear
- 7:40Speaker 2: was drum. You know, it's very difficult to get a
- 7:42Speaker 2: balance on stage. especially in a big arena. So now
- 7:47Speaker 2: it's technically easier and you sort of grow into yourself
- 7:53Speaker 2: as a musician as you get older, you know, and
- 7:56Speaker 2: you can, instead of sort of operating all the time
- 8:00Speaker 2: at the limit of your ability, you give yourself a
- 8:02Speaker 2: bit of headroom, you know, because, you know, obviously you've
- 8:05Speaker 2: been playing a long time and I think the songs
- 8:08Speaker 2: are breathing more now. We play them with a bit
- 8:11Speaker 2: more consideration now we open them out a bit more now.
- 8:14Speaker 2: So it's a great, you know, involvement of the band,
- 8:18Speaker 2: you know, we're still evolving really, which is amazing, you know.
- 8:23Speaker 3: That's awesome.
- 8:24Speaker 4: You always sort of pioneered the three guitar attack with yourself,
- 8:28Speaker 4: Dave Murray and Yanni Gerdes in about 1999, mate. So
- 8:30Speaker 4: how did the three of you approach arranging the older
- 8:34Speaker 4: classic tracks, which were originally written as a two guitar
- 8:37Speaker 4: set up?
- 8:38Speaker 3: Like, is it difficult to flesh them out?
- 8:42Speaker 2: Well, I kind of took on that role because when
- 8:44Speaker 2: I came back in the band, Yannick was already playing
- 8:48Speaker 2: what I used to play in terms of melodies, harmonies,
- 8:54Speaker 2: all that. Solos were unique, just pretty much did what
- 8:58Speaker 2: he wanted. So I had to find a way to
- 9:01Speaker 2: try and add texture, a bit more depth. So I'll
- 9:05Speaker 2: just take a different approach. A lot of the guitar
- 9:08Speaker 2: lines I'll play an octave lower. because the guys, you know,
- 9:11Speaker 2: the guys are playing higher, which gives it a subtle,
- 9:15Speaker 2: a bigger sound. I've used different tunings on some songs,
- 9:21Speaker 2: like Number of the Beast. I use like a drop
- 9:24Speaker 2: D tuning, which is what a lot of the kind of,
- 9:27Speaker 2: it's not modern now, but a lot of the sort
- 9:30Speaker 2: of heavier bands like Megadeth and Metallica use that kind
- 9:35Speaker 2: of tuning.
- 9:36Speaker 1: So it's subtle. It's not taken over, but it's a
- 9:39Speaker 1: subtle thing.
- 9:39Speaker 2: So, I tried to use different chord inversions and just
- 9:45Speaker 2: to kind of broaden the sound out. And, you know,
- 9:49Speaker 2: when we did the albums.
- 9:53Speaker 1: Originally, there was always more than two guitar parts.
- 9:56Speaker 2: Quite often, there'll be a third harmony or a double
- 9:59Speaker 2: track or it's so, you know, the more the merrier
- 10:02Speaker 2: really that I think the only problem is, uh, on the,
- 10:06Speaker 2: on the rhythm side is, is, you know, we all
- 10:09Speaker 2: have a slightly different approach to rhythm. So you get
- 10:12Speaker 2: a bit of movement in the rhythm guitars, but you know,
- 10:15Speaker 2: the guitar lines themselves, um, I think really worked great with,
- 10:20Speaker 2: with three guitars.
- 10:21Speaker 1: Yeah.
- 10:23Speaker 4: With the guitars, man, like how much of what you
- 10:25Speaker 4: guys do up there is that lived and how much
- 10:27Speaker 4: is sort of like got to follow a rehearsal schedule.
- 10:29Speaker 3: Sort of thing?
- 10:31Speaker 1: Well, it's, it's pretty tightly rehearsed. I mean, I, I, um,
- 10:37Speaker 1: you can't stay straight.
- 10:38Speaker 2: I mean, the songs arrangements are the same every night
- 10:42Speaker 2: because you've got lighting cues, you've got the show cues.
- 10:44Speaker 2: As far as solos go, um, I think if you play,
- 10:48Speaker 2: like I say, with a more considered approach and the
- 10:53Speaker 2: songs are breathing, you can then improvise. I certainly improvise
- 10:57Speaker 2: a lot more than I used to because the way
- 11:01Speaker 2: sometimes we played in the 80s, it was like standing
- 11:03Speaker 2: on a runaway train trying to play the guitar.
- 11:06Speaker 1: So you just go for what you know.
- 11:09Speaker 2: But now sometimes there's a little bit more space in
- 11:12Speaker 2: there and you can improvise a bit. But I'd say
- 11:14Speaker 2: it's probably a little bit more rigid than improvised, you know.
- 11:20Speaker 3: Yeah, very cool.
- 11:21Speaker 1: On the whole.
- 11:23Speaker 3: On the whole, yeah, cool.
- 11:25Speaker 4: The tour marks are historic, isn't it, too, with Nico
- 11:28Speaker 4: McBrain stepping down from Touring Duties and Simon Dawson taking.
- 11:31Speaker 3: Over on drums.
- 11:32Speaker 4: So how has his playing style adjusted to sort of
- 11:35Speaker 4: the rhythmic foundation of the band and how did it
- 11:37Speaker 4: change your internal timing on stage, I guess, in the
- 11:40Speaker 4: first few rehearsals?
- 11:42Speaker 1: Yeah, it was quite, I mean, Poor Nick.
- 11:45Speaker 2: I mean, Nick, I always thought of Nick as probably,
- 11:48Speaker 2: you know, the best player in the band technique-wise when
- 11:51Speaker 2: he joined because, I mean, he was a professional musician
- 11:54Speaker 2: since he was 16.
- 11:56Speaker 1: He played jazz. Jazz, he's like across the board. He
- 12:01Speaker 1: could play everything.
- 12:03Speaker 2: Unfortunately, you know, he had a stroke and he just
- 12:08Speaker 2: physically couldn't play and his I think any drummer would
- 12:13Speaker 2: tell you it's one of the most demanding gigs, you know,
- 12:18Speaker 2: probably apart from Rush, you know, stepping in there, doing that,
- 12:23Speaker 2: and that's some gig.
- 12:24Speaker 1: But it's very physical.
- 12:27Speaker 2: There's just an energy about a band when we're on
- 12:31Speaker 2: stage and it just wants to take off like a plane.
- 12:35Speaker 2: And sometimes you think we just need someone to hold
- 12:38Speaker 2: it back, you know, to let the songs breathe, is
- 12:40Speaker 2: what I'm saying. And Simon's more that kind of drummer,
- 12:43Speaker 2: you know. He's more into serving the song and especially
- 12:49Speaker 2: now he's settling into it. I mean, he's obviously got
- 12:52Speaker 2: the chops and he's got the stamina and everything else.
- 12:55Speaker 2: It's just a mental thing about just steering the ship,
- 13:02Speaker 2: you know, and keeping it on a steady course. And
- 13:03Speaker 2: that's what he does, you know, and he's doing great.
- 13:08Speaker 2: And he's a great guy as well. You know, he
- 13:09Speaker 2: fits in personality-wise, you know, really well. But, of course,
- 13:12Speaker 2: you never replace Nico because Nico is a one-man show,
- 13:16Speaker 2: you know.
- 13:17Speaker 3: He looks like an absolute character. He looks like the
- 13:19Speaker 3: sort of bloke you'd want to go and have a
- 13:20Speaker 3: drink with down the pub.
- 13:22Speaker 1: Exactly. Nick's fun and he always has been.
- 13:25Speaker 2: He's high energy, you know, and he's, like I say, if,
- 13:28Speaker 2: you know, if there was a drum kit anywhere and
- 13:32Speaker 2: he got behind it, he'd bring the house down. He'd
- 13:34Speaker 2: be the star of the show, you know. because he's
- 13:37Speaker 2: got personality. You can't teach that. But he's still.
- 13:45Speaker 1: Involved with the band.
- 13:48Speaker 2: In some capacity, and he always will be a part
- 13:51Speaker 2: of the band, really. He was there for so many
- 13:53Speaker 2: years and such a big personality.
- 13:55Speaker 1: Very nice.
- 14:01Speaker 4: And the movie Burning Ambition came out early this year too. Like,
- 14:05Speaker 4: have you did a bit of a feature on that
- 14:06Speaker 4: when it came out? Fantastic movie, bro. But, like, how
- 14:10Speaker 4: sort of, like, you're looking back through it, you know,
- 14:12Speaker 4: like there's little parts in there like the treadmill of touring,
- 14:15Speaker 4: how it sort of affected the band and stuff.
- 14:17Speaker 3: But looking back on that now, like, how does it
- 14:19Speaker 3: feel to look back at.
- 14:20Speaker 4: Those turbulent times when you've got everything so stable and
- 14:24Speaker 4: healthy and functioning these days? Well, yeah.
- 14:29Speaker 2: I mean, that's a good question because, you know, every
- 14:32Speaker 2: band's got history. Every band's got baggage, like family, you know,
- 14:37Speaker 2: some two brothers have a row, you know, years ago
- 14:40Speaker 2: and they're still smoldering about it 20 years later. So there,
- 14:44Speaker 2: there is a little bit of that. I was slightly
- 14:46Speaker 2: concerned that it might open up old wounds. Not that
- 14:50Speaker 2: we've got that many, but there, of course there are
- 14:52Speaker 2: anyone who works together for a period of time, you know,
- 14:55Speaker 2: disagreements and regrets and all that sort of thing. Well,
- 14:59Speaker 2: I think overall, You know, they did a good job,
- 15:02Speaker 2: you know. And, you know, I thought if I can
- 15:06Speaker 2: get through this and watch on a big screen myself,
- 15:10Speaker 2: you know, without sort of hiding behind a chair and wincing,
- 15:13Speaker 2: you know, then it's all right with me.
- 15:15Speaker 1: And I did. I saw it.
- 15:17Speaker 2: I did a pre– I watched it before it was
- 15:22Speaker 2: released and I sort of saw I was okay with it. So, yeah,
- 15:28Speaker 2: and the fans really enjoyed it. There's a few things
- 15:30Speaker 2: in there that probably haven't come to light before. I
- 15:33Speaker 2: think the guy approached it in quite an original way.
- 15:36Speaker 2: We weren't actually in it like this face-to-face on camera.
- 15:41Speaker 2: It's just our voices. So I think it added a
- 15:45Speaker 2: real depth to it.
- 15:45Speaker 1: Yeah, it's cool.
- 15:48Speaker 4: Nice.
- 15:48Speaker 3: Definitely, Ian.
- 15:49Speaker 4: We can't sign off, bro, without mentioning the fact that
- 15:52Speaker 4: Megadeth are coming over with you for all the shows
- 15:54Speaker 4: as well, man. It must be pretty cool to have
- 15:56Speaker 4: a front row seat to watch that night after night.
- 15:59Speaker 1: Yeah, I do.
- 16:00Speaker 2: I do go out. I don't go out the front.
- 16:03Speaker 2: I go out on the side and watch them. You know,
- 16:07Speaker 2: you've got to respect Dave. You know, he's been through
- 16:12Speaker 2: a lot. And he, you know, after part in company,
- 16:17Speaker 2: I should say, with Metallica, he's he's kind of made
- 16:21Speaker 2: a success of it. You know, it's quite very impressive. And,
- 16:28Speaker 2: you know, they're out there and people love them. So
- 16:31Speaker 2: I think it's a great show for everyone, the two bands.
- 16:35Speaker 3: Yes, right now.
- 16:36Speaker 4: Before we go, man, I've got a new segment I've started.
- 16:38Speaker 4: I'm just asking people, do you remember the very first
- 16:42Speaker 4: song you ever played air guitar to?
- 16:44Speaker 3: And do you still listen to that song today?
- 16:48Speaker 2: I remember distinctly. It wasn't air guitar. It was my
- 16:52Speaker 2: dad's played a ukulele banjo. It was about this big.
- 16:58Speaker 2: And I used to grab it out of the, I
- 17:01Speaker 2: was only probably eight years old.
- 17:03Speaker 1: And when the Beatles came on the TV.
- 17:06Speaker 2: I would grab the ukulele banjo and me Beatle week
- 17:10Speaker 2: and everything. Pretend to be John Lennon. So I distinctly
- 17:15Speaker 2: remember that. And Yeah, I mean, I was hooked. And
- 17:19Speaker 2: then when I listened to Deep Purple when I was
- 17:21Speaker 2: 15 and that was it, that's what I wanted to do.
- 17:24Speaker 1: It was in my blood, for sure.
- 17:27Speaker 3: And you're still doing it, my friend. You're still doing it.
- 17:29Speaker 1: I'm still doing it, yeah. Yeah, all right, man.
- 17:33Speaker 3: Well, thanks very much for your time, Adrian. It's been
- 17:35Speaker 3: a pleasure, bro.
- 17:36Speaker 4: Iron Maiden in Australia in November. Limited tickets left, so
- 17:39Speaker 4: make sure you get along and I'll see you in Brisbane,
- 17:41Speaker 4: my friend.
- 17:41Speaker 1: All right. Nice to talk to you.