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Going the Distance with Connor S · The Ben and Ashley I Almost Famous Podcast

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  Speaker 1: This is the Ben and Ashley I Almost Famous podcast
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  Speaker 1: with i R Radio. It is Ben and I believe
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  Speaker 1: it's Ashley. Is it Ashley? Oh hey, it's me, Hey Ashley.
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  Speaker 1: I'm in Mesa, Arizona right now. We're practicing um for
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  Speaker 1: the live tour. The Bachelor Live on Stage starts on
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  Speaker 1: the thirteenth, and so right now I'm in Mesa in
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  Speaker 1: my dressing room and Ashley you're in Los Angeles. So
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  Speaker 1: we're not together and it's sad. Well, we're gonna be
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  Speaker 1: together on Friday. We're gonna do some podcasts together. It
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  Speaker 1: will be cool. And I will be making a special
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  Speaker 1: appearance at the Reno date on The Bachelor Live Tour. Ben.
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  Speaker 1: People are probably like, why what are you rehearsing? Like?
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  Speaker 1: Are you just standing up on the mic? It's like
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  Speaker 1: a Broadway show, a production you're doing. Can you explain
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  Speaker 1: to people, like what's going to be happening? It's not
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  Speaker 1: just watching a couple of people date. It's like you're dancing,
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  Speaker 1: are you singing? I hope not? I hope. So you
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  Speaker 1: know it's while. So first off, I've had a terrible
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  Speaker 1: flu for three days, so I flew out here on Wednesday,
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  Speaker 1: which was the sixth and for the you know, since then,
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  Speaker 1: I've had a fever. But We've put in like eight
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  Speaker 1: to ten hour days practicing for this tour um so
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  Speaker 1: I'm struggling a bit. So if I start to fall
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  Speaker 1: asleep halfway through the podcast, you know why. But I
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  Speaker 1: took a little break from practice to to talk to
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  Speaker 1: you and talk to the audience. So but yeah, it's
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  Speaker 1: been rough. I've had some some massive fevers. But I'm
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  Speaker 1: glad it happened now and not why we're why we're touring.
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  Speaker 1: So We've talked about a little bit, but I think
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  Speaker 1: now is a really good time to talk about it
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  Speaker 1: since it starts this week. So the Bachelive on Stage
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  Speaker 1: tour was this idea that happened because Bachelor Nation is everywhere,
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  Speaker 1: uh from big cities a small city. So we're going
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  Speaker 1: to sixties six cities around the US. We're picking a
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  Speaker 1: lucky local bachelor from each city and then ten women
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  Speaker 1: that he's lucky enough to date on stage. They will
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  Speaker 1: go through group dates one on one day. They will
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  Speaker 1: have fantasy suites, they will have hometowns, they will have
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  Speaker 1: the hometowns. They'll have hometowns, but the parents are all there. Actually,
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  Speaker 1: this show has thought of everything. I'm not kidding it is.
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  Speaker 1: I went into this when I said yes to this,
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  Speaker 1: what was it seven eight months ago? I was like, oh,
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  Speaker 1: this will be fun. It is a crew that is massive.
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  Speaker 1: The amount of time and effort and money put into
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  Speaker 1: the show is incredible. There they're just they've thought of everything,
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  Speaker 1: and what it's really gonna do is kind of allow
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  Speaker 1: fans of the show to see how the show happens
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  Speaker 1: on TV except live in front of them for two
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  Speaker 1: and a half hours, and possibly see if connections can
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  Speaker 1: be made on stage. It's been great. I would love
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  Speaker 1: to give you details, but you know, just as you
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  Speaker 1: would assume, the show really wants you to have to
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  Speaker 1: come to the show to experience Saturday, and then we'll
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  Speaker 1: come back on the podcast and I'll talk all about
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  Speaker 1: my witness experience. Yeah, it's gonna be wild. I'm super
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  Speaker 1: pumped about it. It's been a lot more than I expect.
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  Speaker 1: I will be dancing. I am hosting with Becca Koufrin.
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  Speaker 1: They're out there practicing right now. I can look at
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  Speaker 1: the screen and see them doing it. Um. But yeah,
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  Speaker 1: it's you know, ash, It's gonna be fun and I'm
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  Speaker 1: glad that we get to go to all these places
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  Speaker 1: around the US and say hi to Bachelor Nation. I
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  Speaker 1: think it's really going to be an experiential trip around
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  Speaker 1: the country for anybody that watches the show. So please
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  Speaker 1: come out and see us at one of the sixty
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  Speaker 1: six cities. You're gonna Bachelor Live on stage dot com
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  Speaker 1: to find a place near you, get some tickets. Very
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  Speaker 1: very cool. Are we ready to talk about hot topics
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  Speaker 1: around on the Bachelor Nation? Yeah? I'm super confused by
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  Speaker 1: some of these, So how about you lead us and
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  Speaker 1: then I have some follow up questions just to figure
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  Speaker 1: out what exactly is happening. Okay, So I'm just gonna
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  Speaker 1: read this statement that Tammy put out to her Instagram
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  Speaker 1: last week, apologizing for being nasty. She says, quote, Okay,
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  Speaker 1: I'm going to address this once and for all. Remember
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  Speaker 1: that this is a show. I do take responsibility for
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  Speaker 1: my action, and I never intended to hurt anyone. I'm
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  Speaker 1: very sorry to those I did hurt, but my heart
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  Speaker 1: was never coming from an intentionally malicious place. I already
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  Speaker 1: don't like this apology because she started out sounding so huppy, puppy. Okay,
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  Speaker 1: I'm gonna dress that lunch and for all um, I
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  Speaker 1: tend to gravitate towards humor in situations like this. Nothing
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  Speaker 1: about that was humorous because I'm not trying to mourn
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  Speaker 1: in the past mistakes that I've made. They're all human,
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  Speaker 1: We're all human, We're all human. All of us have
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  Speaker 1: done things we're not proud of. So please hear me
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  Speaker 1: when I say I never meant to hurt anyone, and
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  Speaker 1: I'm sorry my five minute nasty moment on TV doesn't
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  Speaker 1: define who I am. Respect that that that's me saying respect,
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  Speaker 1: just like how your mistakes went defined who you are. Either.
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  Speaker 1: Remember that all of us who participated in the show
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  Speaker 1: are human too, and some of you say nasty things
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  Speaker 1: to us than we do to each other. Also respect. Okay,
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  Speaker 1: so I get it, Like obviously I get it. Well,
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  Speaker 1: how do you do you feel like this is a
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  Speaker 1: genuine apology, Ben, I think it's a genuine apology. I
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  Speaker 1: just think any apology that turns it back on me
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  Speaker 1: being the victim again is not exactly fair. Like what
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  Speaker 1: do you apologize for it? You're mean to somebody? I
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  Speaker 1: think you own that. And you know, again, we've gone
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  Speaker 1: through this year every year. Every year, fans need to
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  Speaker 1: be nicer to the contestants come on the show. You're
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  Speaker 1: putting yourself out there. It's not easy. But also contestants
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  Speaker 1: on the show, it's never okay for what people say
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  Speaker 1: to you. I will never say you should just ignore
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  Speaker 1: it and just move on and like, don't let it
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  Speaker 1: bother you. It hurts. But please know that when you
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  Speaker 1: start to get these like hateful comments and people start
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  Speaker 1: to troll you on Instagram, with social media, you're on alone.
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  Speaker 1: It's been happening for years, and it's happened to every
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  Speaker 1: single person, and I think that's where this for me goes.
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  Speaker 1: Just know Tammy, that you aren't alone in this well.
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  Speaker 1: Everybody has gotten hate, and so what we should be
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  Speaker 1: talking about is how do we love better and not
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  Speaker 1: how do we eliminate hate more? It's I think love
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  Speaker 1: eliminates hate. And I agree with her when she says like,
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  Speaker 1: don't let my mistakes define me, because I've said some stupid,
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  Speaker 1: stupid stuff on the show too, and I take it
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  Speaker 1: back and I regret. I don't regret like a ton
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  Speaker 1: of actions, but I definitely regret some comments that I
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  Speaker 1: made just being sassy and totally overly emotional in the
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  Speaker 1: interview room. But I do think that she's like not
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  Speaker 1: really apologizing to the girls that she hurt. There, she's apologized,
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  Speaker 1: she's like saying sorry so that she looks better to
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  Speaker 1: the Bachelor audience. Yeah, I mean that's always the That's
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  Speaker 1: always the kind of the way that you value an
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  Speaker 1: apology is why are you doing it? Are you doing
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  Speaker 1: it to actually apologize to the to the women that
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  Speaker 1: were her or two men that you were hurt, or
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  Speaker 1: whoever was hurt in the process. Are you doing it
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  Speaker 1: to enhance your own image? I don't know here. I
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  Speaker 1: don't think you are claiming to know either, but we
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  Speaker 1: will say, just make sure that the apology is coming
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  Speaker 1: from a place of I am sorry for what I
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  Speaker 1: said and I'm sorry for what I did, and then
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  Speaker 1: we all can go. I get it, we've done it too.
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  Speaker 1: But if it's I'm sorry for what I did and
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  Speaker 1: also look how great I still am, it's like, yeah,
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  Speaker 1: I also apologies to other contestants don't have to be
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  Speaker 1: prior like, don't have to be public. I think if
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  Speaker 1: it's a true apology, then apologize in private and then
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  Speaker 1: like you know, if you really if you need that
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  Speaker 1: to be out there that I'm sure the girl will
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  Speaker 1: back you up when you go to film women Tell
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  Speaker 1: All next week, and you know, if they come at you,
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  Speaker 1: then hopefully um Kelsey or McKenna would say something like
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  Speaker 1: she did come to me and apologize privately off camera,
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  Speaker 1: like it was very nice and I accept it. That
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  Speaker 1: would be the best way to go about things. That
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  Speaker 1: would be awesome. I would love if sometime on Tell All,
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  Speaker 1: people are like, hey, we've talked off camera without any
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  Speaker 1: cameras because it was such a big and prevalent issue
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  Speaker 1: to us, and we've resolved it, and we come here
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  Speaker 1: today just to tell you that adults still exist on
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  Speaker 1: this show, and adults really do care about each other
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  Speaker 1: on this show, and we're gonna move forward even though
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  Speaker 1: it's hurt. That would be an amazing moment and I
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  Speaker 1: would love to watch that, and I hope it goes down.
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  Speaker 1: Uh this time on Tell All, the best way and Tammy,
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  Speaker 1: if you're listening, it's the best way, alright. Moving on
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  Speaker 1: Bachelor lum Crystal Nielsen calls the show environment toxic. I
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  Speaker 1: would say that to each his own when it comes
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  Speaker 1: to calling the environment of the show any word, any
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  Speaker 1: adjective to be honest, because like, I would never have
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  Speaker 1: thought it to be toxic, but Crystal didn't have a
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  Speaker 1: great experience on the show, so for her it was toxic.
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  Speaker 1: Her quote is, it's so crazy watching The Bachelor because
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  Speaker 1: it feels like such a toxic environment they're in. Honestly,
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  Speaker 1: I think it's really scary, and I think that in
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  Speaker 1: this case, Crystal is alluding to this currencies and of
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  Speaker 1: The Bachelor, which I also think it's toxic. I think
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  Speaker 1: that these girls are out for themselves. There doesn't seem
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  Speaker 1: to be many genuine relationships being formed. Seems like a scary,
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  Speaker 1: cold place to be. It feels like contestants from the past, Ashley,
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  Speaker 1: and tell me if I'm wrong. This is a if.
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  Speaker 1: This is what Crystal saying is that this season feels
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  Speaker 1: toxic to be in that house. It feels like, for
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  Speaker 1: the first time in a long time, contestants are starting
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  Speaker 1: to speak out and saying I could not be in
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  Speaker 1: this house. This house doesn't feel fun. Yeah, DeBie and
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  Speaker 1: on Twitter, Yeah, like that's kind of what's being said
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  Speaker 1: from most people that have been on the show before, right,
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  Speaker 1: Like this is the first time that people watch it
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  Speaker 1: and go there's not one moment I've want to be
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  Speaker 1: in the house. UM, I use it like not at all.
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  Speaker 1: Dread staying home when there was a group date or
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  Speaker 1: a or one one going on. I was like, Oh,
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  Speaker 1: I'm just gonna hang out with my friends today. Sounds
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  Speaker 1: not bad, but these girls, like God, if I didn't
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  Speaker 1: get to escape from them, might be very sad. She
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  Speaker 1: continues by saying, seeing all this stuff come up from
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  Speaker 1: contestants now, like blast from the past, means that anything
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  Speaker 1: could be exposed on the show now, especially how they
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  Speaker 1: are leaking everyone earlier. Um, that is very interesting becau us.
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  Speaker 1: There are some stories that are being drudged up about
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  Speaker 1: these contestants, like um, Sydney had to go have all
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  Speaker 1: those photos from her yearbook come out last week, and
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  Speaker 1: people were insinuating that she wasn't actually eating lunch alone
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  Speaker 1: in a bathroom stall because of the pictures. And then
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  Speaker 1: of course there's stuff about Victoria floating around on the internet,
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  Speaker 1: and I think we'll learn more about that next week.
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  Speaker 1: And there was Victoria's white Fish Lives Matter campaign. So
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  Speaker 1: all this stuff probably I don't know if it's creating
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  Speaker 1: a toxic environment in the house, but it's definitely making
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  Speaker 1: life Social media like makes life better and harder for contestants. Yeah,
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  Speaker 1: I mean, I think I think it's it's just like
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  Speaker 1: everything else in life. As we're young, we're gonna make mistakes.
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  Speaker 1: How do we overcome those mistakes? How do we learn
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  Speaker 1: from our mistakes? It's it's the whole Kevin Hart thing, like,
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  Speaker 1: are you going to criticize me for things years ago?
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  Speaker 1: I don't know. We haven't answered that question as a
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  Speaker 1: society yet, Like nobody has answered if like society will
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  Speaker 1: still judge you for the mistakes you made fifteen years ago,
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  Speaker 1: even if you've moved on and grown. Um, I don't
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  Speaker 1: I don't know how to answer that. I'm not gonna
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  Speaker 1: even weigh my opinion. But it feels like now on
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  Speaker 1: this show that will be a common theme will be
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  Speaker 1: which one of these contestants has something from the past
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  Speaker 1: that we're gonna have to try to either forgive them
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  Speaker 1: for overcome. They're gonna have to overcome, but we'll have
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  Speaker 1: to be brought up to the public while it airs,
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  Speaker 1: and every contestant from here on else has to know
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  Speaker 1: that going in that this is that their dirty laundry
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  Speaker 1: will be spread once they say yes to be on
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  Speaker 1: the show. It. I think it will add a whole
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  Speaker 1: new element. Hey, actually, I want to pause you here though,
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  Speaker 1: and I want to get into it later, so I
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  Speaker 1: don't want to answer, but I want to tease this
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  Speaker 1: for our listeners out there later on the podcast. I'm
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  Speaker 1: gonna ask you this question. I'm wanna have you answered, Okay,
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  Speaker 1: based on Crystal's synopsis that it's a toxic environment, is
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  Speaker 1: that due to the women or it feels like right
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  Speaker 1: now Peter Webber is getting the criticism for allowing this
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  Speaker 1: toxic environment to continue to come up. Whose fault if
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  Speaker 1: we have to blame it on somebody? Is it? We'll
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  Speaker 1: talk about that later on in the podcast. Also, I
• 12:10
  Speaker 1: ask all of you listeners to please write us at
• 12:13
  Speaker 1: Ben and Ashley I heart media dot com and let
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  Speaker 1: us know your opinion before you even listen to the
• 12:19
  Speaker 1: second section on what our opinions are on that. Hey, actually,
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  Speaker 1: next topic, Chris Bukowski was being flirty with Katie Morton
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  Speaker 1: on Instagram this week. She posted something along the lines
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  Speaker 1: of like, where's the favorite your favorite place that you've
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  Speaker 1: ever been to in the world, and then Chris coming
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  Speaker 1: underneath it saying your house I know, so does that
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  Speaker 1: means that's heavy? I know, you know it was annoying.
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  Speaker 1: I saw that his comment literally moments after I left
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  Speaker 1: being with Katie, and I could have asked her, well,
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  Speaker 1: I guess I could have always texted her, but what
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  Speaker 1: is what is her like? What is her feelings for Chris?
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  Speaker 1: Like do you feel like after being around her? She
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  Speaker 1: probably took this comment and laughed and giggled like, oh, Chris,
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  Speaker 1: you're funny or is this like is this gonna hurt her?
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  Speaker 1: I mean, if I was engaged, Okay, so let me
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  Speaker 1: go back to my relationship from this show, and I'm
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  Speaker 1: what two months off of the breakup and this was said,
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  Speaker 1: I would be so confused, like so confused her disheveled
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  Speaker 1: that that was said after it like, I don't know,
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  Speaker 1: I just don't feel like when you're engaged and you
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  Speaker 1: break up, this is the type of stuff you talk
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  Speaker 1: about and say. I guess it leads us as an
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  Speaker 1: audience and not like if we weren't friends with Katie
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  Speaker 1: and I couldn't just text her. Um, from an audience
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  Speaker 1: point of view, I would see that as like they're
• 13:45
  Speaker 1: they're talking again. Right, Let's let's start the rumor in
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  Speaker 1: the almost from his podcast that there is a possibility
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  Speaker 1: that Katie and Chris are potentially maybe talking based on
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  Speaker 1: this comment, Tor is, she knows stuff and she's looking
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  Speaker 1: at me and I'm not going to call her out
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  Speaker 1: or put her on the mic, but she's like laughing
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  Speaker 1: and she's she thinks we're off bass. I'm just gonna
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  Speaker 1: tell you that. Well. Hey, anyways, it's a story. We
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  Speaker 1: talked about it. Chris Bukowski is flirty with Katie Morton
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  Speaker 1: on Instagram. We have we have no idea next story.
• 14:21
  Speaker 1: Nick File wants Demi Burnett. Also Deemi Burnutt sounds so weird. Um,
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  Speaker 1: she's Demi not Lovado to me. So Nick wants Demi
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  Speaker 1: to lead the Bachelorette and to have both female and
• 14:34
  Speaker 1: male contestants. Obviously, Nick and Demi are quite close, and
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  Speaker 1: I like the idea of it. I definitely think that
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  Speaker 1: she should be in the running. There's a lot of um,
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  Speaker 1: I don't have a good word here. I'm gonna call
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  Speaker 1: it messiness. That could happen if Demi, who is somebody
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  Speaker 1: who's sexually fluid, is the lead, you would supposedly in
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  Speaker 1: need straight guys, like half straight guys and half straight
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  Speaker 1: girls to be the cast, because if you castid fluid people,
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  Speaker 1: you would run the risk of them falling in love
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  Speaker 1: while they're in the house. And I guess that is
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  Speaker 1: something we could be open to as well, but it
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  Speaker 1: definitely changes the structure of the show. Yeah, I mean
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  Speaker 1: that happened a few years ago. I remember talking to
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  Speaker 1: I think Lance Bass was the host of it. I
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  Speaker 1: forget the exactly. Yeah, I was on cable and it
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  Speaker 1: was just for gay guys. Yeah, And we remember talking
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  Speaker 1: to Lance about it, and that was a legitimate concern
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  Speaker 1: from production of how do we keep people from falling
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  Speaker 1: in love with each other in the house, because that's
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  Speaker 1: not the concept of the show. Great, if it happens,
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  Speaker 1: connections are being made, people are falling in love, but
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  Speaker 1: it's hard to produce and tell a story when there's
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  Speaker 1: so many different storylines that could be kind of coming
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  Speaker 1: to fruition within the house. I think Demmi would be
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  Speaker 1: I mean, think about this. Demmy went from being on
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  Speaker 1: Colton season to kind of being the we never knew
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  Speaker 1: what the caller. She wasn't the villain of season. She
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  Speaker 1: just like was the one that would kind of like
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  Speaker 1: stir up havoc or like was always kind of commenting
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  Speaker 1: on things to them being on Paradise and having a
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  Speaker 1: beautiful story that Batchel Nation celebrated with her to now
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  Speaker 1: being a front runner for Bachelorette. It is as much
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  Speaker 1: of a transition on the show as anybody we've seen.
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  Speaker 1: I mean, maybe since Colton Underwood. Colton Underwood went from
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  Speaker 1: being like kind of yeah, maybe bachelor, but there's more
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  Speaker 1: people that will probably pick above him, to going on
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  Speaker 1: Paradise and kind of having an a great storyline, and
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  Speaker 1: then all of a sudden he's Bachelor and beloved. Demi
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  Speaker 1: has made a triumphant run towards the top, and her
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  Speaker 1: name I think is probably legitimately up there for Bachelor.
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  Speaker 1: I think she's in the top. I think she would
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  Speaker 1: be maybe even above anybody from this season. I think
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  Speaker 1: you would be her and Hannah Brown right now. I
• 16:54
  Speaker 1: don't know how. I mean, we'll get into a layer
• 16:57
  Speaker 1: another tease for later on the podcast. I'll ask actually
• 17:00
  Speaker 1: who her top choice for Bachelorette Bachelorette is right now,
• 17:03
  Speaker 1: because I I don't know, like when neither nobody knows. Uh,
• 17:07
  Speaker 1: we'll talk about that later, but yes, I'm with you
• 17:09
  Speaker 1: Ashley Demmy has to be up there all right. Our
• 17:12
  Speaker 1: last season news for the Week is is a conspiracy
• 17:16
  Speaker 1: theory that is absolutely not true, but I think it's
• 17:18
  Speaker 1: humorous enough to discuss it on the podcast. Some people
• 17:22
  Speaker 1: are speculating that Peter ends up with one of his producers,
• 17:26
  Speaker 1: and this producer is um his like one on one producer,
• 17:30
  Speaker 1: the producer that sticks around with Peter all the time.
• 17:35
  Speaker 1: People are looking through way too hard, thinking that he
• 17:38
  Speaker 1: ends up with her and that I don't think it's
• 17:41
  Speaker 1: going to happen. Well, actually I know it's not happening.
• 17:44
  Speaker 1: I can confirm it does not happen. Well, here's the thing,
• 17:49
  Speaker 1: how does this even start? Because every year you get
• 17:51
  Speaker 1: off the show and you have a one on one
• 17:53
  Speaker 1: producer if you're the bachelor of the Bachelorette, and you
• 17:56
  Speaker 1: spend a ton of time with him, and you go
• 17:58
  Speaker 1: to all these cool events with him, and you'll go
• 17:59
  Speaker 1: to a war shows with them, and you go to
• 18:00
  Speaker 1: the New Yor's Eve thing with them, Like this is
• 18:02
  Speaker 1: not uncommon. It's happened for years at least since I've
• 18:05
  Speaker 1: been on the show. How did this rumor start? Okay,
• 18:07
  Speaker 1: so I have I have the points the bullet points.
• 18:11
  Speaker 1: Filming wrapped on November and this producer went to Sydney
• 18:16
  Speaker 1: with another producer. Potentially why Peter's mom is saying bring
• 18:21
  Speaker 1: her home because l A is home to both of them,
• 18:24
  Speaker 1: and said producer is still in Australia. Meanwhile Peter is
• 18:29
  Speaker 1: back in l A. It's not until the producer returns
• 18:34
  Speaker 1: to l A that things get serious two weeks later.
• 18:38
  Speaker 1: I think they reconnect figure things out the nightclub in Vegas.
• 18:43
  Speaker 1: There at a nightclub in Vegas with other bachelor people, um,
• 18:46
  Speaker 1: and it gives them the opportunity to go slow in
• 18:48
  Speaker 1: public with people that they trust. They are both in
• 18:51
  Speaker 1: l A this whole time, no need for a safe
• 18:54
  Speaker 1: house visit because they can just say they're getting their
• 18:57
  Speaker 1: meeting up because it's work another who's who's reporting? And
• 19:01
  Speaker 1: these are like, I think, a collective amount. This is.
• 19:05
  Speaker 1: This is a compilation that Women's Health magazine put together
• 19:10
  Speaker 1: based on lots of people's research on rendit WI. Should
• 19:16
  Speaker 1: I continue, Uh, just tell us a little bit more.
• 19:19
  Speaker 1: Let's summarize this here because it's confusing, so let's summari.
• 19:23
  Speaker 1: I'll summarize. At this point, the rumor has started, it
• 19:26
  Speaker 1: has spread everywhere. If you google Peter Webber's name right now,
• 19:29
  Speaker 1: it's one of the first articles that come up. And
• 19:30
  Speaker 1: it's not just one source that Peter Webber actually falls
• 19:34
  Speaker 1: in love with his producer from the show and they
• 19:38
  Speaker 1: leave the show together. Ashley is claiming that it's definitely
• 19:44
  Speaker 1: not true. Pause, you actually and say, why are you
• 19:47
  Speaker 1: so confident? I'm confident because I have um, I have
• 19:52
  Speaker 1: people that I know in the production team. Just shocking, right, Yeah,
• 19:57
  Speaker 1: I know it would be a lot more fun to
• 19:59
  Speaker 1: go through these bullet points about how they could lead
• 20:04
  Speaker 1: into a relationship together if I didn't just tell you
• 20:07
  Speaker 1: that's absolutely not true, and you just know we can
• 20:09
  Speaker 1: we can stay here on the almost from his podcast
• 20:12
  Speaker 1: that we will source this and say it's absolutely not true. Well,
• 20:15
  Speaker 1: then again, my source and production could be totally throwing
• 20:18
  Speaker 1: me off. He has produced me for many years. Oh
• 20:22
  Speaker 1: my gosh, this is also scary and confusing. Right now,
• 20:25
  Speaker 1: we'll say that based on our knowledge, Peter Webber is
• 20:29
  Speaker 1: not fallen for his producer, but production and the people
• 20:34
  Speaker 1: the Bachelor have kept better secrets. My source did say,
• 20:37
  Speaker 1: isn't that just so silly or like so ridiculous? They
• 20:41
  Speaker 1: never really said a hard note. Now that I think
• 20:43
  Speaker 1: about it, Ashley, I think we need to now reverse
• 20:48
  Speaker 1: our claim and say it could be true. Producer Tory
• 20:53
  Speaker 1: just sent a little piece of paper over my way
• 20:56
  Speaker 1: and it says that this producer created a pinchers board,
• 21:02
  Speaker 1: a wedding and travel themed pinchest board the night the
• 21:05
  Speaker 1: show ended around that time. I don't know if that
• 21:11
  Speaker 1: means anything. I think, if anything, it would be her
• 21:14
  Speaker 1: planning Peter and whoever ends up with wedding. I have
• 21:21
  Speaker 1: zero comment on this. I know is that really evidence?
• 21:24
  Speaker 1: I don't know anymore, Ashley. Now now I'm confused. And
• 21:27
  Speaker 1: if that's the way this show ends this season, I'll
• 21:31
  Speaker 1: tell you one thing, it will be one of the
• 21:33
  Speaker 1: most dramatic, crazy, wild things I've ever experienced in my life. Hey,
• 21:39
  Speaker 1: that's We're gonna leave this topic because I don't know
• 21:41
  Speaker 1: what to say. That's the hot topics for today. Let's
• 21:44
  Speaker 1: take a break and we'll come back to break down
• 21:46
  Speaker 1: Peter's episode in Lima Pru of The Bachelor. This. I'll
• 21:58
  Speaker 1: be honest, this whole Peter with the producer, the thing
• 22:00
  Speaker 1: is really mess with my head. So you can't get
• 22:02
  Speaker 1: out of my head. You guys. I just went back
• 22:04
  Speaker 1: and I read the text from my producer friend and
• 22:09
  Speaker 1: I sent him a screenshot of the allegations and I
• 22:13
  Speaker 1: had like two laughing cat emojis because I thought it
• 22:15
  Speaker 1: was just so silly. And he responded by saying, it's
• 22:20
  Speaker 1: all over the internet exclamation mark, and I said, so funny.
• 22:25
  Speaker 1: That's that's all. That's all that happened. That was from that.
• 22:29
  Speaker 1: When you came into this podcast, you said, it's so
• 22:31
  Speaker 1: not true. That's what you said, Ashley is moment detective. Yeah.
• 22:37
  Speaker 1: I was gonna say this moment you need to sit
• 22:39
  Speaker 1: down and learn from your assumptions and how you're reading
• 22:41
  Speaker 1: situations and go you got confident that that wasn't true
• 22:45
  Speaker 1: based on that right there, which would make me go,
• 22:48
  Speaker 1: oh wow, oh wow it is true. That would make
• 22:52
  Speaker 1: you go, wow, it is true. It's probably true. So
• 22:55
  Speaker 1: what I think. And you, guys, there's also a picture
• 22:58
  Speaker 1: of them with his family on New Year's Eve and
• 23:02
  Speaker 1: there's some Reddit speculation about how she detagged herself or
• 23:05
  Speaker 1: something from it. How much do you feel this as
• 23:08
  Speaker 1: spoilers now? I mean, should we stop at this point?
• 23:11
  Speaker 1: Because I feel like, if it's true, we're spoiling the
• 23:13
  Speaker 1: whole thing. If it's not true, then I don't know.
• 23:16
  Speaker 1: But during our break, Tore said something really funny. She's like,
• 23:21
  Speaker 1: what if Chris Harrison interrupts that final rose ceremony as
• 23:26
  Speaker 1: we see in the scenes for the next episode, and
• 23:28
  Speaker 1: he said, we all all production just found this out.
• 23:32
  Speaker 1: Your producer just left because she can't handle seeing you
• 23:36
  Speaker 1: get engaged. Oh my gosh, I don't know anymore. I
• 23:44
  Speaker 1: don't know. Team, We're gonna have to put it, like
• 23:46
  Speaker 1: at the beginning of this podcast, say like, the first
• 23:48
  Speaker 1: twenty minutes of this is us speculating that something might
• 23:51
  Speaker 1: be true that we have no clue for it is
• 23:52
  Speaker 1: because if it's true, we just spoiled the whole entire season. Well,
• 23:57
  Speaker 1: you know it was bound to happen one day. Gosh,
• 24:00
  Speaker 1: dang it. All right, let's get into this episode. We
• 24:03
  Speaker 1: find ourselves in Lima, Peru, one of my favorite places
• 24:06
  Speaker 1: in the world. The food is amazing, the scenery is great,
• 24:10
  Speaker 1: and Peter is hoping at this point to get out
• 24:13
  Speaker 1: of the drama that has led him here to South America.
• 24:17
  Speaker 1: We find him face timing his mom. It's a sweet
• 24:20
  Speaker 1: moment um. So much of what we've seen in the past.
• 24:25
  Speaker 1: I think it's a good moment for us just to
• 24:26
  Speaker 1: see where he's at and what he's in touch with.
• 24:28
  Speaker 1: His mom is is obviously back in the US Peter
• 24:32
  Speaker 1: at this point. Actually, it's it's healthy for me as
• 24:35
  Speaker 1: a viewer to watch. I feel like every episode I
• 24:38
  Speaker 1: expect to see him just like in tears, in the
• 24:40
  Speaker 1: fetal position in the corner, being like, I don't want
• 24:41
  Speaker 1: to do this anymore. Every episode and every day, I
• 24:44
  Speaker 1: feel like he has a great way of kind of
• 24:47
  Speaker 1: starting over, compartmentalizing what happened in the past and football player, Yeah,
• 24:53
  Speaker 1: it's weird, right on the next play, onto the next play,
• 24:56
  Speaker 1: onto the next game. I'm worried about Peter though, starting
• 25:00
  Speaker 1: with his entrance into the girl's hotel room. He's obviously
• 25:04
  Speaker 1: realizing how uh hard this has been. And here's my
• 25:08
  Speaker 1: thought right now, it's not been a secret. I'm a
• 25:12
  Speaker 1: fan of Peter. I think Peter has made some some
• 25:15
  Speaker 1: poor decisions along the way. I think kissing girls in
• 25:18
  Speaker 1: front of other girls is not great. I think he
• 25:20
  Speaker 1: could have put his foot down. But other than that,
• 25:22
  Speaker 1: Peter is a nice guy and that's really all we
• 25:24
  Speaker 1: want from the show. Is to see a good guy
• 25:27
  Speaker 1: or a good girl find good love. I'm a fan
• 25:31
  Speaker 1: of Peter Webber. I don't hate Peter Webber at all,
• 25:34
  Speaker 1: but here's my thing. I'm worried. Once he walks into
• 25:38
  Speaker 1: the room, that rerealized for the first time just how
• 25:42
  Speaker 1: much of a disconnect there are between him and these
• 25:44
  Speaker 1: women up to this point. Usually, when it gets down
• 25:47
  Speaker 1: to this many we are vested into a couple of
• 25:50
  Speaker 1: relationships at least, and we are familiar with every character
• 25:54
  Speaker 1: and we understand their stories and what their struggles are. Actually,
• 25:58
  Speaker 1: I watched him walk into that room and I feel
• 26:00
  Speaker 1: like he is he is almost the stranger walking into
• 26:04
  Speaker 1: a room full of not friends, just like acquaintances, and
• 26:08
  Speaker 1: it feels weird watching it back. The only person I
• 26:13
  Speaker 1: feel like he does have something genuine and strong with
• 26:16
  Speaker 1: is Madison, and we see him take her out on
• 26:19
  Speaker 1: their um on a date. One on one is their
• 26:22
  Speaker 1: first one since week one. Technically it was episode one. Yeah,
• 26:27
  Speaker 1: and I mean she she's she's so far, so far
• 26:31
  Speaker 1: beyond any other girl if when it comes to connection, Yeah,
• 26:35
  Speaker 1: that's that's obvious. I watched this date. I'm like, this
• 26:37
  Speaker 1: is a date, This is the funny part. Actually, their
• 26:41
  Speaker 1: date felt like a date that we typically during a season,
• 26:45
  Speaker 1: see like two weeks ago and most of the dates,
• 26:48
  Speaker 1: like it felt like the date where it's like, oh, yeah,
• 26:50
  Speaker 1: they're into each other, this is good. This happens with
• 26:53
  Speaker 1: like two or three different girls. Now it's just like
• 26:56
  Speaker 1: one good date on this show, and we're all like, oh,
• 26:58
  Speaker 1: there it is. It's all over. Oh I mean, I
• 27:01
  Speaker 1: kept saying like it's over, like just send everyone else home.
• 27:05
  Speaker 1: It's not even close. So, I mean, I have a
• 27:09
  Speaker 1: total theory that the scene to the next episode or
• 27:12
  Speaker 1: the coming episodes lead on, but we'll get there later.
• 27:16
  Speaker 1: Here's my thing with this date, though. There's a big
• 27:19
  Speaker 1: moment this date that bothered me. Okay, so it's the
• 27:22
  Speaker 1: cocktail hour or the dinner party or whatever they do
• 27:25
  Speaker 1: at the end, and they're sitting there and and Madison
• 27:28
  Speaker 1: obviously has a very strong faith. Her faith is really
• 27:32
  Speaker 1: important to her, and my faith is very important to me,
• 27:35
  Speaker 1: I know, along with many other people who have been
• 27:38
  Speaker 1: on the show. And as you start to pursue somebody
• 27:40
  Speaker 1: and you start to get closer and closer to the
• 27:42
  Speaker 1: end if you're going to continue a relationship with them,
• 27:45
  Speaker 1: these are the kind of conversations that you have to
• 27:47
  Speaker 1: have um almost early on and continue to build off
• 27:52
  Speaker 1: of faith, family, what you hope for, for what you
• 27:57
  Speaker 1: dream of, what your childhood dreams are, what you're pursuing
• 27:59
  Speaker 1: in life, like, those are important conversations, and the really
• 28:02
  Speaker 1: this one for her I was excited to see. And
• 28:04
  Speaker 1: she comes into it and says, Peter, here's why I'm matt.
• 28:07
  Speaker 1: Here's what I really want. My dad has led our
• 28:10
  Speaker 1: family in this way. Uh, and it's been something that
• 28:13
  Speaker 1: I've always wanted in a husband, Peter admits, which I'm
• 28:16
  Speaker 1: glad he did. Hate Faith is something I have, but
• 28:18
  Speaker 1: it's not been something that I put on the forefront
• 28:20
  Speaker 1: of my life. I think he just says it maybe
• 28:23
  Speaker 1: it's something that I would like to get better at,
• 28:25
  Speaker 1: which if I was Madison at this point, I'd say, Peter,
• 28:28
  Speaker 1: it's gonna be hard for me to commit to you until, like,
• 28:31
  Speaker 1: if this is that important to me, until I see
• 28:33
  Speaker 1: that right and this is a huge thing. All he
• 28:35
  Speaker 1: says to her is I just want you to know
• 28:38
  Speaker 1: how into you I am, and she goes, that's all
• 28:40
  Speaker 1: I need to hear. I'm like, that doesn't make sense.
• 28:43
  Speaker 1: We're talking about faith and what you want in the future,
• 28:46
  Speaker 1: and a guy says he's into you, and then it's
• 28:47
  Speaker 1: all good. No what what he said? Yeah, I think so.
• 28:51
  Speaker 1: I think he was like, faith is something that I
• 28:53
  Speaker 1: really want to get better at, and I'm excited about
• 28:57
  Speaker 1: possibly being with a woman who could really um strengthen
• 29:01
  Speaker 1: that department of my life. And then she was like,
• 29:05
  Speaker 1: that's all I have to hear is that you are
• 29:07
  Speaker 1: willing and excited about it becoming a bigger part of
• 29:10
  Speaker 1: your life. Okay. I mean, I just felt like that
• 29:17
  Speaker 1: conversation was one that was a big one. I felt
• 29:20
  Speaker 1: like it was one that could have gone a lot
• 29:22
  Speaker 1: of different directions, and I feel like it just settled
• 29:24
  Speaker 1: out to like maybe I didn't feel like I learned
• 29:27
  Speaker 1: anything about them other than that they're not really on
• 29:30
  Speaker 1: the same like page during that conversation, Like I felt
• 29:34
  Speaker 1: like that was one that was really going to make
• 29:36
  Speaker 1: or break this relationship, and I just felt like I
• 29:38
  Speaker 1: left it going it was okay, Well, I think we'll
• 29:41
  Speaker 1: see more of it next week when we go home
• 29:44
  Speaker 1: with him um with her and he's going to have
• 29:47
  Speaker 1: a conversation with her dad about this. Cool. Well, hey,
• 29:51
  Speaker 1: I'll be looking forward to seeing I know the woman
• 29:52
  Speaker 1: in the house. We're talking about Madison's faith and just
• 29:55
  Speaker 1: how important it was to her. So uh kudusa Madison
• 29:58
  Speaker 1: for being herself no matter where she's at during this experience,
• 30:00
  Speaker 1: and I'm glad uh that she brought up the Peter.
• 30:05
  Speaker 1: But at the same time, we'll flash back to the
• 30:07
  Speaker 1: house whether where the woman are hanging out during Peter
• 30:10
  Speaker 1: and Madison's date, and we find Natasha, who is yet
• 30:13
  Speaker 1: to get a one on one. She's a little bit
• 30:14
  Speaker 1: distraught and upset about it, but hey, don't fear Natasha,
• 30:19
  Speaker 1: because Peter is coming through with a date card that says,
• 30:21
  Speaker 1: let's explore for the second one on one date of
• 30:25
  Speaker 1: the episode. There's like an equation to this episode every
• 30:28
  Speaker 1: year now. It's like to one on ones with two
• 30:32
  Speaker 1: shoe ins, that being Kelsey and Madison in this case
• 30:37
  Speaker 1: one day with a girl you're gonna dump, and then
• 30:40
  Speaker 1: the three on one, which is you know, always up
• 30:43
  Speaker 1: in there. I can't imagine to this point being Natasha
• 30:49
  Speaker 1: and having people get to one on ones multiple times
• 30:53
  Speaker 1: before you can get one. Like at that point, don't
• 30:55
  Speaker 1: you think you're saying it's time for me to go
• 30:57
  Speaker 1: like this just isn't working for us. Yeah, I would
• 31:01
  Speaker 1: say that, right, Am I wrong with saying like, hey,
• 31:04
  Speaker 1: I'll speak for contestants out there and say that if
• 31:07
  Speaker 1: you don't get a one on one within the first
• 31:08
  Speaker 1: I mean, I don't even know how many weeks we
• 31:10
  Speaker 1: are now in week seven, Like, this probably isn't something
• 31:14
  Speaker 1: that you're gonna want to invest too much more into
• 31:16
  Speaker 1: unless you're just having a good time. Yeah, yeah, I agree. Yeah,
• 31:20
  Speaker 1: I mean if it were if it were me there,
• 31:22
  Speaker 1: I probably just send myself home on the date I thought, Peter,
• 31:27
  Speaker 1: you know, I thought, well, yes, And I think that's
• 31:29
  Speaker 1: kind of what happened, honestly. I mean, it felt like
• 31:31
  Speaker 1: they sat down at dinner, Natasha pretty soon knew that
• 31:34
  Speaker 1: it wasn't going in a great direction. Peter knew that
• 31:37
  Speaker 1: I was just trying to get her to a place
• 31:39
  Speaker 1: where she understood. And then they mutually parted ways. They
• 31:43
  Speaker 1: had a great day out. I wouldn't say they mutually
• 31:45
  Speaker 1: parted ways. She wasn't happy. She wasn't happy. She wasn't happy,
• 31:50
  Speaker 1: and she was like, oh, I know I'm going to
• 31:52
  Speaker 1: find someone. I hope you do. Yeah, it was kind
• 31:57
  Speaker 1: of interesting after her comment on. You know, I got
• 32:00
  Speaker 1: my my ex broke up with me because I was
• 32:02
  Speaker 1: too intense. And then she's like, yeah, I'm gonna find somebody.
• 32:04
  Speaker 1: But that wasn't that wasn't in this moment for me,
• 32:06
  Speaker 1: I was like, oh crap, I know if I was Peter.
• 32:08
  Speaker 1: All of a sudden, I be thinking back in my head,
• 32:10
  Speaker 1: I hope I find somebody also, because now I'm nervous
• 32:12
  Speaker 1: not won't well. Good thing for Peter. Kelsey is still there.
• 32:16
  Speaker 1: Madison is still there, Hannah and is still there he
• 32:19
  Speaker 1: couldn't stop thinking about during that date. Huh. He couldn't
• 32:23
  Speaker 1: stop thinking about Madison during that It was good. I mean,
• 32:26
  Speaker 1: and I get it. When you're in love love and
• 32:30
  Speaker 1: some dates are better than others, it's hard to compartmentalize.
• 32:33
  Speaker 1: Now at that point, you almost at this point, Ashley,
• 32:36
  Speaker 1: during the season, I think it happens with everybody I
• 32:39
  Speaker 1: talked to. You start to feel like you're cheating on
• 32:42
  Speaker 1: the women that you care about because you're out on
• 32:45
  Speaker 1: dates and you're kissing other people when you are definitely
• 32:49
  Speaker 1: falling harder for some Now you can't just totally say hey,
• 32:52
  Speaker 1: it's over at this point because you still want to
• 32:55
  Speaker 1: explore and you still I'm as it looks like in
• 32:57
  Speaker 1: Peter season. There's still surprises around the corner, but need
• 33:00
  Speaker 1: to stay open to But you do. It's harder and
• 33:03
  Speaker 1: harder every week. Well, hey, the third date goes to
• 33:06
  Speaker 1: Kelsey the day card Reid's love is a wild ride, Ashley,
• 33:10
  Speaker 1: what do you think of this date? Well, they go
• 33:12
  Speaker 1: on a t V s up a mountain and he
• 33:15
  Speaker 1: is really expressing how much he loves doing stuff like
• 33:18
  Speaker 1: this and can't wait to do the stuff for the
• 33:20
  Speaker 1: rest of his life with a wife. And he tells
• 33:22
  Speaker 1: her this. I'm like, so Kelsey, She's like, m hmmm,
• 33:27
  Speaker 1: I'm like this sounds like a nightmare. I don't think
• 33:31
  Speaker 1: she wants to do that for the rest of her life,
• 33:33
  Speaker 1: but she's gonna plow that off of the side. But
• 33:37
  Speaker 1: I like Kelsey a lot. She has a lot of depth.
• 33:41
  Speaker 1: She is so not afraid to talk about her family life,
• 33:45
  Speaker 1: her emotions. I like the way she said that how
• 33:49
  Speaker 1: she wants to be home half the week and she
• 33:51
  Speaker 1: wants to work too because she wants to prioritize the kids.
• 33:54
  Speaker 1: Like that. Um. I like the Well, it was kind
• 33:57
  Speaker 1: of shocking the way that she came out and said, Hey,
• 34:00
  Speaker 1: I have a relationship with my dad as of now,
• 34:02
  Speaker 1: but I haven't told my mom. So this is kind
• 34:04
  Speaker 1: of like something that's between you and I and hopefully
• 34:06
  Speaker 1: it doesn't get brought up next week. That was something
• 34:09
  Speaker 1: so intimate personal that we don't often see. How do
• 34:16
  Speaker 1: you feel about that? You think that she should have
• 34:18
  Speaker 1: talked about her She should have talked to her mom
• 34:20
  Speaker 1: about this before going on the show. Typically, that's how
• 34:23
  Speaker 1: I would say it. You know, we've had moments like
• 34:25
  Speaker 1: this in the past. Typically I say, now, here's the
• 34:28
  Speaker 1: other part of this actually is, and I've been I've been.
• 34:32
  Speaker 1: I go back and forth because one of it is
• 34:34
  Speaker 1: is she's falling for Peter. What she obviously is. Then
• 34:39
  Speaker 1: this is a conversation that she would definitely want to
• 34:42
  Speaker 1: have before Peter met the family. She should definitely have
• 34:47
  Speaker 1: had the conversation. And I think it's okay because I
• 34:50
  Speaker 1: think that she's going to get off the show and
• 34:52
  Speaker 1: she's going to tell her mom right away. If anything,
• 34:54
  Speaker 1: she might tell her mom next week during Hometowns, and
• 34:57
  Speaker 1: it's but I do always feel like it's just hurts
• 35:00
  Speaker 1: me a little bit. I think Blake Hortsman was the
• 35:03
  Speaker 1: last time I really felt like this was heavy. Like
• 35:05
  Speaker 1: when stuff like this gets said, you know your family
• 35:08
  Speaker 1: is gonna watch it, and it just like stings a
• 35:11
  Speaker 1: little bit because I'm like, I'm just worried for what's
• 35:14
  Speaker 1: going to happen in the background with the family. Like,
• 35:16
  Speaker 1: but at the same time, maybe bring some conversations to
• 35:19
  Speaker 1: the surface that need to be said and need to
• 35:20
  Speaker 1: be talked through. But it is heavy, and as viewers,
• 35:25
  Speaker 1: we need to respect that that is a heavy moment
• 35:27
  Speaker 1: and not just like use it as our entertainment. But
• 35:30
  Speaker 1: know what it takes for somebody to sit there across
• 35:33
  Speaker 1: the table from somebody they're falling for on something they
• 35:36
  Speaker 1: know will be viewed by millions, But they're kind of
• 35:39
  Speaker 1: probably forgetting that at this point because they're so infatuated
• 35:41
  Speaker 1: with who this other person is and they tell us
• 35:44
  Speaker 1: something this intimate and this detailed. I don't I'm not
• 35:47
  Speaker 1: asking every contestant to do that. I don't think it's
• 35:50
  Speaker 1: fair of us to expect every contestant to do that.
• 35:52
  Speaker 1: I don't even think that most contestants have situations like
• 35:55
  Speaker 1: that that they're dealing with it on I agree, but
• 35:58
  Speaker 1: I'm just saying, hey, Kelsey, you did it. Bachelor Nation
• 36:01
  Speaker 1: is behind you. Um, it's just heavy. It's a heavy
• 36:06
  Speaker 1: moment that we were witnessing. But as we find out,
• 36:10
  Speaker 1: we're going to find out next week because she is
• 36:12
  Speaker 1: going to hometowns, but one of these girls is not.
• 36:17
  Speaker 1: Let's take a break before we talk about the Hannah
• 36:19
  Speaker 1: and Victoria and Kelly three on one day. Before we
• 36:31
  Speaker 1: talk about the three on one date with Hannah and
• 36:33
  Speaker 1: Victoria and Kelly, I want to tease that in a
• 36:35
  Speaker 1: little bit, uh, Connor Saley, who was announced as the
• 36:39
  Speaker 1: Bachelor live on stage Bachelor in Los Angeles, will be
• 36:42
  Speaker 1: coming to the Almost Famous podcast today to speak to
• 36:45
  Speaker 1: us about that experience, what he hopes for, what he
• 36:47
  Speaker 1: dreams of, and if he could potentially find his soulmate
• 36:51
  Speaker 1: live on stage in Los Angeles. So tune in after
• 36:54
  Speaker 1: the episode breakdown and we'll give Connor a call. Ashley.
• 36:58
  Speaker 1: Three and one day happens. It's not unexpected, Necessarily, we
• 37:02
  Speaker 1: knew something like this was gonna happen at some point.
• 37:05
  Speaker 1: It just feels like a mixed bag of emotions from
• 37:07
  Speaker 1: every person there. But the one that doesn't have a
• 37:10
  Speaker 1: mixed bag of emotions is Kelly, who No, I'm interested
• 37:14
  Speaker 1: to hear your breakdown of Kelly. Kelly, why did you
• 37:16
  Speaker 1: have to do this? She I've been saying the entire
• 37:19
  Speaker 1: season that she's like awesome, but she doesn't even she
• 37:23
  Speaker 1: doesn't self describe that she's awesome. Right, she doesn't show ego,
• 37:27
  Speaker 1: but she's smart and carries herself beautifully with confidence. And
• 37:30
  Speaker 1: then this time she got huber Is struck. It's weird, right, Yeah,
• 37:37
  Speaker 1: I'm a lawyer, the other girl. I'm always bad at this. Again,
• 37:43
  Speaker 1: I know it's the thing that you guys always get
• 37:44
  Speaker 1: on me. I'm always bad at kind of judging the
• 37:46
  Speaker 1: situations because I'm so sensitive to like that just kind
• 37:51
  Speaker 1: of arrogance or like self describing or that kind of thing.
• 37:54
  Speaker 1: Like I'm just very sensitive to I know that. So
• 37:57
  Speaker 1: I've stayed away from even like commenting on it. But
• 38:00
  Speaker 1: so I didn't know how you were gonna read the situation.
• 38:04
  Speaker 1: Batchelor nation was going to read it, but I was
• 38:07
  Speaker 1: watching the whole time, like, Kelly, what are you doing?
• 38:09
  Speaker 1: This feels like unlike you. And again it hit me
• 38:13
  Speaker 1: as soon as she says I'm a lawyer or I'm
• 38:15
  Speaker 1: an attorney, like kind of like I'm better than everybody else.
• 38:19
  Speaker 1: And at that moment, I said, WHOA, at what point
• 38:22
  Speaker 1: now are we putting ourselves in a scale based on
• 38:24
  Speaker 1: our career paths? Great that you've accomplished that, that's a
• 38:27
  Speaker 1: huge deal, Like, I'm super impressed. That's not something I'm
• 38:30
  Speaker 1: smart enough to be able to pull off, I think.
• 38:32
  Speaker 1: But but Kelly, Like, let's that that all of a
• 38:36
  Speaker 1: sudden set me back and one of my favorites all
• 38:38
  Speaker 1: of a sudden starting to be one that I wasn't
• 38:40
  Speaker 1: rooting for on this three on one day. I know
• 38:42
  Speaker 1: everybody loved Kelly. It seemed like such an undeniable thing
• 38:45
  Speaker 1: about amongst Batchelor nation. There were so many memes out
• 38:48
  Speaker 1: there saying like the diamond and the rough right. Yeah,
• 38:52
  Speaker 1: but she she did a little bit for herself this week.
• 38:55
  Speaker 1: I can't believe that. She said, I'm an attorney, and like,
• 38:57
  Speaker 1: what are these other girls as if? Like your job
• 39:00
  Speaker 1: defines your character? That hurt That hurt me, That felt weird.
• 39:04
  Speaker 1: Now here's the thing actually we're gonna talk about in
• 39:07
  Speaker 1: a second, I'm gonna just hint at it again. Up
• 39:12
  Speaker 1: until this point, Kelly was definitely my front runner to
• 39:14
  Speaker 1: be Bachelorette. I think now this is the last time
• 39:17
  Speaker 1: we see her during this season. Obviously, I think it's
• 39:21
  Speaker 1: a very clear picture that she will not be the
• 39:23
  Speaker 1: Bachelorrette Well, moving on from Kelly to talk about Hannah
• 39:26
  Speaker 1: and Hannah and uh And and Peter have the very
• 39:29
  Speaker 1: first conversation. This was was uniquely special for me Actuley
• 39:35
  Speaker 1: because it was one of those moments where I did
• 39:37
  Speaker 1: start to really get behind Anna and and I thought
• 39:39
  Speaker 1: her note to him was a sign that she's trying,
• 39:42
  Speaker 1: still not there yet, still not on the Madison level,
• 39:45
  Speaker 1: but trying. Yeah, I like go I'm a flip flopper
• 39:50
  Speaker 1: with Hannah An. I've never fully really liked her, and
• 39:54
  Speaker 1: I've also well, I guess at the beginning I fully
• 39:56
  Speaker 1: didn't like her, but I still she's very hard for
• 39:59
  Speaker 1: me to get to know, like I feel like she's
• 40:02
  Speaker 1: hard for Peter to get to know. I did like
• 40:05
  Speaker 1: her letter, it was very sweet. Um, I still am
• 40:09
  Speaker 1: not I'm still not sensing um a connection that goes
• 40:15
  Speaker 1: beyond the physical, right now, can you? I mean no,
• 40:21
  Speaker 1: I mean I think that's the thing I was saying earlier,
• 40:23
  Speaker 1: to like, there's really only one person that I'm sensing
• 40:26
  Speaker 1: a connection with and that's Madison. Like everybody else, it
• 40:29
  Speaker 1: feels like really good still first dates. Yeah, like a
• 40:33
  Speaker 1: girl that you like, not a girl you're falling for,
• 40:35
  Speaker 1: a girl you like. Yeah, like a girl that like,
• 40:37
  Speaker 1: Oh I'm interested in. It's not a bad thing, it's
• 40:40
  Speaker 1: not like unhealthy. It's just like, no, I don't know yet.
• 40:43
  Speaker 1: That's how I feel about most of these situations. Hannah
• 40:45
  Speaker 1: ann was this this note and this time for them
• 40:47
  Speaker 1: to kind of sit down and discuss what she was into,
• 40:49
  Speaker 1: like what she appreciated about him was a was a
• 40:53
  Speaker 1: good moment this season, which here's the kicker. Most seasons
• 40:58
  Speaker 1: it would just be another moment, but this season it
• 41:01
  Speaker 1: felt like like a good moment, so true, Like how
• 41:05
  Speaker 1: many times do girls come to the guy with letters
• 41:08
  Speaker 1: all the time? Yeah, I have. I'm very neutral and
• 41:11
  Speaker 1: Hannah and during this conversation or not just part I
• 41:15
  Speaker 1: still don't know her, here's a crazy part. And not
• 41:19
  Speaker 1: to compare, I just was thinking about this the other night.
• 41:21
  Speaker 1: This episode was the episode during my season that I
• 41:25
  Speaker 1: let go of Becca, Tilly and the last Ferguson twin
• 41:29
  Speaker 1: Like that to me, those women were like huge pieces
• 41:33
  Speaker 1: of my life. Becca is still somebody that I wouldn
• 41:35
  Speaker 1: strow all my best friends who I love dearly, like
• 41:38
  Speaker 1: Emily was a big part of my season, who I
• 41:40
  Speaker 1: got to know very well and who I root for.
• 41:44
  Speaker 1: And I look at these women going home this week
• 41:46
  Speaker 1: and I'm like, yeah, they still aren't like they're not
• 41:50
  Speaker 1: even close. And I don't know if it's about them
• 41:54
  Speaker 1: or whatever, but you gotta think Becca Tilly went home
• 41:57
  Speaker 1: this week during my season, and Becca is Becca, you know,
• 42:00
  Speaker 1: I know, isn't that crazy? That's wild? Yeah, you guys
• 42:03
  Speaker 1: got really close, really close. She's the best. I love
• 42:07
  Speaker 1: that girl. So the most mind boggled from my season, Ben,
• 42:17
  Speaker 1: The most mind boggling part of this episode for me
• 42:19
  Speaker 1: was definitely a Victoria f because their conversation went so horribly.
• 42:24
  Speaker 1: She said to him that he's always in a mood
• 42:27
  Speaker 1: when she's around. No one must have been a whole
• 42:31
  Speaker 1: other conversation that happened that we didn't see. Because he
• 42:35
  Speaker 1: gives her the rose. All there is is a big
• 42:39
  Speaker 1: sloppy mess between the two of them, but he she
• 42:43
  Speaker 1: was the one that he was certain he was going
• 42:45
  Speaker 1: to keep around. You think, do you do you get
• 42:49
  Speaker 1: what's going on here with them? I mean, she's is
• 42:51
  Speaker 1: it just physical because once Jesse uh and Becca Martinez
• 42:57
  Speaker 1: pointed out a few weeks ago to me, now I
• 42:59
  Speaker 1: notice it. It feels like she gets up and walks
• 43:01
  Speaker 1: away from any times any type of like conflict. It
• 43:05
  Speaker 1: feels like that happens every time they're on a date,
• 43:07
  Speaker 1: So there's conflict most times they're talking. At what point
• 43:10
  Speaker 1: do you go, we just don't we aren't working, Like
• 43:13
  Speaker 1: this isn't good, this isn't gonna last. But it just
• 43:17
  Speaker 1: feels like it continues. And it's not like it's not
• 43:21
  Speaker 1: that was last season. Remember we were like nothing goes Yeah,
• 43:27
  Speaker 1: not to say that their comparable situations. This is like,
• 43:29
  Speaker 1: this isn't easy at this point in a relationship. This
• 43:32
  Speaker 1: would be like the third day in real life, right, yeah,
• 43:36
  Speaker 1: it's eisi going to go well, And if you're not
• 43:38
  Speaker 1: feeling it by the third day, you're going to cut
• 43:40
  Speaker 1: it off if you just can't get into a jive.
• 43:45
  Speaker 1: And and and to flash forward here, I almost feel
• 43:48
  Speaker 1: like Peter is starting to understand Victoria f more because
• 43:51
  Speaker 1: he knows that she's just the ball of emotion and
• 43:53
  Speaker 1: that she cares, but she's nervous and she can't just
• 43:56
  Speaker 1: break down her walls, and that's why once he's sit
• 44:00
  Speaker 1: down the paths of the Roses, he like kind of
• 44:02
  Speaker 1: teases her with it, like walks through the car because
• 44:04
  Speaker 1: he's like, I feel like it is his way of saying, Victoria,
• 44:07
  Speaker 1: f like take a breather, like, don't don't always assume
• 44:11
  Speaker 1: the worst here. I like you, I want to meet
• 44:15
  Speaker 1: your family. You're getting the rose. Yeah, And he did
• 44:20
  Speaker 1: that just so she can like not be so much
• 44:23
  Speaker 1: in her own head and he could do something special
• 44:25
  Speaker 1: for her because I think he really likes her and
• 44:27
  Speaker 1: it's gonna break me if this one doesn't work before him,
• 44:31
  Speaker 1: because I feel like he's invested a lot into it
• 44:33
  Speaker 1: and he's really trying to show her that she can
• 44:36
  Speaker 1: be confident in what they have as far as a
• 44:39
  Speaker 1: poll goes, like he feels a pole towards a girl.
• 44:43
  Speaker 1: I think she's second to Madison, definitely, Yeah, I would
• 44:47
  Speaker 1: agree with that. And then I also think that he
• 44:49
  Speaker 1: pulls her aside and does stuff like that because she's
• 44:53
  Speaker 1: like second in line to Madison, and also because he
• 44:56
  Speaker 1: knows that she reacts better in general when she's not
• 44:59
  Speaker 1: an agree environment. M Now, you're right, he's going to
• 45:03
  Speaker 1: know her better Now the question is is she gonna
• 45:05
  Speaker 1: take some time to get to know him better and
• 45:07
  Speaker 1: understand who he is, because just saying you're in a
• 45:10
  Speaker 1: mood every time we're together is not referencing that you
• 45:13
  Speaker 1: know him any better. It's just like pretty much spouting
• 45:15
  Speaker 1: out that you don't really like the guy, like if
• 45:17
  Speaker 1: he's in a mood, if like every time Ashley and
• 45:19
  Speaker 1: I hung out and you're like, Ben, you're just always
• 45:21
  Speaker 1: in a mood when you're around me. It's like, what
• 45:23
  Speaker 1: you're really saying is you just don't like me. That
• 45:25
  Speaker 1: sounds like such a marriage comment, Like I tell Jared, like, look,
• 45:29
  Speaker 1: you're in a bad mood today, But you don't imagine
• 45:31
  Speaker 1: telling Christuls that that week. That's all. So Peter walks
• 45:37
  Speaker 1: back to Kelly and Hannah and Hanna and gets a rose.
• 45:40
  Speaker 1: Kelly is going home. He just sees them as more
• 45:42
  Speaker 1: and more as friends. Kelly's confidence doesn't really seem to
• 45:47
  Speaker 1: like be too shook. She's sad shocked, and I think
• 45:52
  Speaker 1: she's still just is confused on why these girls continue
• 45:55
  Speaker 1: to stay and she goes home. My question for you
• 45:58
  Speaker 1: actually is this, does Kelly even really want to be there?
• 46:04
  Speaker 1: And is she that into Peter No, because two weeks
• 46:07
  Speaker 1: ago or like two episodes ago, they had that day
• 46:11
  Speaker 1: where she was clearly not super into him and was like,
• 46:16
  Speaker 1: I'm not getting distracted by all like the drama here,
• 46:21
  Speaker 1: and I'm still trying to figure out basically whether I
• 46:24
  Speaker 1: like you enough. Right definitely, Yeah, that would be my
• 46:28
  Speaker 1: take as well. And then she kept saying this is fun,
• 46:31
  Speaker 1: and then she kept saying like I'm having a great time.
• 46:33
  Speaker 1: I'm having fun. I'm having fun. And then he's like, Okay,
• 46:35
  Speaker 1: well I don't want you to just have fun at
• 46:37
  Speaker 1: this point, and she's like, it is more than just fun.
• 46:40
  Speaker 1: You can tell, like it was so obvious she was
• 46:41
  Speaker 1: going to be going home again. I again, I say,
• 46:46
  Speaker 1: at this point in the season, we're usually like really
• 46:49
  Speaker 1: in deep with these relationships, and it feels like most
• 46:51
  Speaker 1: of these women are still very surface, like this is fun. Hey,
• 46:55
  Speaker 1: I just want to show you my little note that
• 46:57
  Speaker 1: I wrote to you, and oh you're in Like these
• 47:00
  Speaker 1: comments to me feel very surface. So I I lead
• 47:03
  Speaker 1: us into this before we bring Connor on here. In
• 47:06
  Speaker 1: a second, I wanna ask you this, actually want to
• 47:07
  Speaker 1: ask you a few questions. Is this whole thing the
• 47:12
  Speaker 1: toxic environment that was spoken about earlier and the lack
• 47:16
  Speaker 1: of depth in these relationships. Is this a Peter problem
• 47:20
  Speaker 1: or is this a cast problem? This is a cast problem.
• 47:24
  Speaker 1: Peter may not have helped a lot of dramatic situations,
• 47:27
  Speaker 1: like giving some girls roses before he should have given
• 47:30
  Speaker 1: them roses, and then they go back to the house
• 47:32
  Speaker 1: and there's more drama that ensues because of it. So
• 47:35
  Speaker 1: he's made like some naive mistakes along the way, But
• 47:39
  Speaker 1: for the most part, this is definitely a cast problem.
• 47:42
  Speaker 1: These girls are um, they want to win. There's so
• 47:47
  Speaker 1: much incentive now to get far because of social media.
• 47:52
  Speaker 1: It's different, it's a totally different game. And I feel
• 47:55
  Speaker 1: like this is just is the most mature casts of
• 48:00
  Speaker 1: girls who have no desire. I don't know, you just
• 48:06
  Speaker 1: feel like it's a cast problem, a cast problem with
• 48:09
  Speaker 1: a bunch of people who want to win and not
• 48:11
  Speaker 1: necessarily invest into a potential engagement and marriage that can
• 48:15
  Speaker 1: definitely come from the show. They're just in it to say, hey,
• 48:18
  Speaker 1: how long can I last? It's all how long can
• 48:20
  Speaker 1: I last? How long can I last? Second question to you,
• 48:23
  Speaker 1: I have three questions for you. By the way, we
• 48:25
  Speaker 1: have to talk about the teaser. Definitely who out of
• 48:31
  Speaker 1: all of this is right now your your bachelorette and
• 48:35
  Speaker 1: in the whole Bachelor nation world. I just want to
• 48:39
  Speaker 1: hand the Hannaby Hannathy same with me, Hannaby. Hannaby is
• 48:43
  Speaker 1: back to being the next bachelor in my eyes, last
• 48:45
  Speaker 1: thing for you, Ashley after this episode on a grade
• 48:51
  Speaker 1: of A to F, how is Peter Webber doing? Peter
• 48:55
  Speaker 1: did a good job this episode? He is he He
• 48:58
  Speaker 1: was what an A minus for you? Last week? What
• 49:00
  Speaker 1: is he just week? Okay? Think he's would be last week? Um,
• 49:06
  Speaker 1: I don't. I think I think he gets to be
• 49:09
  Speaker 1: again this week. Yeah, I would say he stayed about
• 49:12
  Speaker 1: the same. I think he's doing a fine job. I
• 49:14
  Speaker 1: think that we've seen some of his biggest weaknesses in
• 49:17
  Speaker 1: life probably exposed during the show, like doesn't confront things
• 49:21
  Speaker 1: very well or doesn't really love to But he's a
• 49:23
  Speaker 1: nice guy and I just want him to find love
• 49:26
  Speaker 1: in this because I know he believed in finding love
• 49:28
  Speaker 1: in this. I knew this is a good shot for him.
• 49:30
  Speaker 1: I just think that at some point this has gotten
• 49:32
  Speaker 1: to be a lot for him, and I don't think
• 49:34
  Speaker 1: he's had a lot of women around him to help
• 49:36
  Speaker 1: push him forward. Ashley. Then we got to talk about this.
• 49:40
  Speaker 1: As you just mentioned, there's a teaser that that we
• 49:45
  Speaker 1: saw for the rest of the season, and right away
• 49:49
  Speaker 1: it was late when I watched it. I want to
• 49:51
  Speaker 1: call you and be like, what in the world is
• 49:52
  Speaker 1: going to happen? Ashley? No spoilers because you don't know them.
• 49:56
  Speaker 1: And let's be clear on that we don't know them.
• 49:59
  Speaker 1: I swear we don't know them. A lot of people
• 50:01
  Speaker 1: have been coming up to me and they're like, wait,
• 50:04
  Speaker 1: so really there this season isn't spoilable, and like, it's
• 50:08
  Speaker 1: the first time I've gone this far without truly knowing
• 50:11
  Speaker 1: the ending because people leak it to me thinking that
• 50:15
  Speaker 1: I know, and I'm like, I don't. What do you
• 50:17
  Speaker 1: think of this teaser? And this teaser is always one
• 50:20
  Speaker 1: that gets me. What is your breakdown of what you
• 50:22
  Speaker 1: think possibly could happen right now? Okay, I have a
• 50:25
  Speaker 1: very well formed idea. So I think that Madison is
• 50:28
  Speaker 1: basically like the one, and I think he knows Madison's
• 50:30
  Speaker 1: the one, but I think he goes into fantasy sweets
• 50:33
  Speaker 1: and I think he sleeps with another girl knowing that
• 50:37
  Speaker 1: that um Madison is saving herself for marriage, and I
• 50:40
  Speaker 1: think that hearing that in the coming weeks, he gets
• 50:43
  Speaker 1: scared because he has talked about how important sex is
• 50:47
  Speaker 1: in a relationship with him, and I think that he's
• 50:49
  Speaker 1: not sure if he can really wait for marriage to
• 50:52
  Speaker 1: determine whether or not that component of the relationship is
• 50:56
  Speaker 1: strong enough. Like he doesn't want to go. I don't
• 50:58
  Speaker 1: think he wants to go into marriage. Um, you know,
• 51:01
  Speaker 1: like not having had sex with somebody. I really just
• 51:03
  Speaker 1: don't think he does. And I think that freaks him out.
• 51:06
  Speaker 1: And then I think he ends up sleeping with another girl.
• 51:08
  Speaker 1: Madison finds out about it, She's not sure she wants
• 51:11
  Speaker 1: to be with him anymore. I actually think it's a
• 51:13
  Speaker 1: huge turn off for her, and I think that that
• 51:16
  Speaker 1: is going to be a big break between Peter and Madison.
• 51:19
  Speaker 1: And I think the mom saying come bring her here
• 51:24
  Speaker 1: is like, you better figure your crap out because if
• 51:29
  Speaker 1: you don't, you're gonna lose this amazing woman and you
• 51:32
  Speaker 1: gotta winter back. It's definitely a winning back situation. Do
• 51:35
  Speaker 1: I have a different interpretation than you did? No, I
• 51:39
  Speaker 1: don't know how to play out this. Uh Madison saving
• 51:42
  Speaker 1: yourself for marriage? And then um, Peter admitting what we think,
• 51:49
  Speaker 1: he admits to having sex with somebody else, and if
• 51:51
  Speaker 1: he knew this and it was if it was so
• 51:54
  Speaker 1: important to Madison and Madison was the one at the end,
• 51:57
  Speaker 1: I have a feeling that is a massive like, if
• 51:59
  Speaker 1: this is the ACE, it would be a massive issue
• 52:02
  Speaker 1: for her, and I get that, like, I think I
• 52:07
  Speaker 1: can't speak to that, but I would imagine that would
• 52:09
  Speaker 1: hurt like her and be confusing, especially if you're pursuing
• 52:12
  Speaker 1: an engagement where just like, hey, what do you like?
• 52:15
  Speaker 1: You knew this was important to me? You knew this
• 52:16
  Speaker 1: was something I was saving myself for. Why is it
• 52:20
  Speaker 1: um then that you feel like you can can do this?
• 52:24
  Speaker 1: It could be that if it's not that, I don't
• 52:27
  Speaker 1: I just don't get that. I'm not making sense here.
• 52:29
  Speaker 1: Let me be clear. I don't understand within any of
• 52:32
  Speaker 1: that thought process what Chris Harrison is telling him. That
• 52:36
  Speaker 1: is the part I disagree with you, and I just
• 52:37
  Speaker 1: don't think it's clear to us when he comes up
• 52:39
  Speaker 1: and says, I don't know what that would be. I
• 52:41
  Speaker 1: agree with you. I think it's a totally separate thing.
• 52:43
  Speaker 1: And I think what he comes up to say, it's
• 52:45
  Speaker 1: actually just going to be nothing. It's gonna be one
• 52:47
  Speaker 1: of those teasers that, unlike the unlike the Hannah confrontation
• 52:52
  Speaker 1: with Luke, and unlike the fence jump, it's actually going
• 52:54
  Speaker 1: to be very anti climatic. But it's such a good
• 52:57
  Speaker 1: tease for the entire season. But I still think that
• 53:01
  Speaker 1: he may not end up proposing to anyone at the
• 53:04
  Speaker 1: end of this because I think he wants to propose
• 53:07
  Speaker 1: to Madison, but he is very conflicted with the sex situation.
• 53:12
  Speaker 1: H Okay, I think you might be right. Yeah, there's
• 53:15
  Speaker 1: always that moment too. We've we've been used to it
• 53:17
  Speaker 1: over the years to where it's like the teaser proves true,
• 53:20
  Speaker 1: but this might be the one where it doesn't. Hey, Ashley, um,
• 53:25
  Speaker 1: we gotta get Connor on the on the line. Let's
• 53:26
  Speaker 1: get Connor on the line. We'll come back with Connor
• 53:29
  Speaker 1: Saley as he is the l a bachelor for Batchel
• 53:32
  Speaker 1: Alive on stage. My man, Conna Saley is on the
• 53:44
  Speaker 1: line right now, Ashley and I are so pumped to
• 53:47
  Speaker 1: talk to you. Connor. How you doing, buddy, I'm good.
• 53:50
  Speaker 1: What's up, guys? What are you doing so good? Connor?
• 53:53
  Speaker 1: We gotta chat right now as our listeners know. I'm
• 53:57
  Speaker 1: in Mesa, Arizona. We're getting ready for our very first
• 54:01
  Speaker 1: world premiere of The Bachelor Live on Stage tour it
• 54:04
  Speaker 1: but we'll be seeing you soon in Los Angeles. Connor,
• 54:08
  Speaker 1: how in the world did you end up getting asked
• 54:12
  Speaker 1: to be the Bachelor in l A? And let me
• 54:15
  Speaker 1: tell you this. I'll preface this, was saying the response
• 54:17
  Speaker 1: has been outrageous. It's so everybody's so excited for you.
• 54:22
  Speaker 1: Oh look I am I'm fired off. Um. I had
• 54:25
  Speaker 1: a great experience on the show, and what better way
• 54:27
  Speaker 1: to kind of keep that going live on stage where
• 54:31
  Speaker 1: it all started back in l A. So I'm fired off.
• 54:34
  Speaker 1: You're known from Hannah by season of The Bachelorette. Uh,
• 54:38
  Speaker 1: you were seeing Kalin and then when after Whitney once
• 54:42
  Speaker 1: our boy Dean came back into the picture. Connor, you've
• 54:46
  Speaker 1: experienced some disappointment from the show, especially in Paradise. How
• 54:52
  Speaker 1: are you going to navigate this to not experience so
• 54:55
  Speaker 1: much disappointment at Bachelor Live on Stage? Uh? That's a
• 55:01
  Speaker 1: good question. Um, yeah, I mean I think going through
• 55:04
  Speaker 1: the other shows, it's a lot of ups and downs,
• 55:07
  Speaker 1: highs and lows, and I think you learned from all
• 55:09
  Speaker 1: those experiences. I think it'll be a lot easier because
• 55:13
  Speaker 1: I'm the one hanging out the roses. Um, so that
• 55:16
  Speaker 1: will make it a lot easier for me. But um,
• 55:20
  Speaker 1: I think I've just learned a lot more about myself
• 55:21
  Speaker 1: and what I'm looking for in a partner, and um,
• 55:25
  Speaker 1: I think that will help me a lot along the way.
• 55:28
  Speaker 1: So as we prep here and then we throw it
• 55:29
  Speaker 1: over to Ashley to ask a couple of questions as
• 55:31
  Speaker 1: we prep here for Batchelorive on stage. What's something that
• 55:35
  Speaker 1: you're excited about and what do you know about the
• 55:37
  Speaker 1: show so far or any questions for me? Um? Well, yeah,
• 55:43
  Speaker 1: I mean I'm fired up for the show. I saw
• 55:45
  Speaker 1: the the live thing on the Straight Handing Sarah show.
• 55:49
  Speaker 1: That was awesome. It's cool to get a little glimpse
• 55:51
  Speaker 1: into what it's gonna be like. Um the singing date, Uh,
• 55:56
  Speaker 1: kind of those questions that question game date. It looks
• 55:58
  Speaker 1: so much fun and um so I'm fired up for that,
• 56:01
  Speaker 1: excited to meet all the women that are gonna be there. Um,
• 56:04
  Speaker 1: it should be a really fun night, which I'm excited for.
• 56:06
  Speaker 1: And I think it takes a lot of the normal
• 56:08
  Speaker 1: stress of the show away and it's really just more
• 56:10
  Speaker 1: centered around having a good time. So I'm fired up
• 56:12
  Speaker 1: for that. Curious for you, what are the what are
• 56:15
  Speaker 1: the fantasy suitets like? Because I heard then there's definitely
• 56:19
  Speaker 1: gonna be fantasy suits. It's gonna be wild connor um.
• 56:23
  Speaker 1: So here's what you know, obviously, fantasy suits. You can
• 56:26
  Speaker 1: think about it this way. I don't want to give
• 56:27
  Speaker 1: all the secrets away to the show because people have
• 56:29
  Speaker 1: to come and experience it live on stage. But I'll
• 56:33
  Speaker 1: tell you this, just like fantasy sweets are are meant
• 56:35
  Speaker 1: during the show to be your first time in private
• 56:38
  Speaker 1: kind of a way um from the cameras, it's the
• 56:41
  Speaker 1: same concept on the show. Really, the fantasy sweets are
• 56:43
  Speaker 1: what you want to make it. There's no pressure to
• 56:46
  Speaker 1: do anything right, and but on the live on stage
• 56:50
  Speaker 1: it's your first time kind of getting separated from the audience,
• 56:53
  Speaker 1: even though the audience is still able to witness. And
• 56:56
  Speaker 1: that's how I'll leave it. It's it's crazy, it's really
• 56:59
  Speaker 1: well on and I think it will be that moment
• 57:02
  Speaker 1: during the live stage show where you can really start
• 57:03
  Speaker 1: to invest into some of these people. Yasha, I gotsha. Yeah,
• 57:08
  Speaker 1: that's awesome. It will be. It's not inappropriate though, buddy,
• 57:12
  Speaker 1: I will tell you that that you're gonna you will
• 57:14
  Speaker 1: still be the true gentleman that you consider yourself during
• 57:16
  Speaker 1: it exactly. Yeah, do you have any advice for me
• 57:21
  Speaker 1: and handing out the roses? Well, you know, I think
• 57:24
  Speaker 1: this is it. You know. The Bachelor Live on Stage
• 57:27
  Speaker 1: show was meant to be a thankula Bachelor Bachelor Nation.
• 57:29
  Speaker 1: It is supposed to be the first time that Batchelor
• 57:31
  Speaker 1: Nation can come in and be a part of this
• 57:34
  Speaker 1: experience and watch it go down right in front of
• 57:37
  Speaker 1: their faces. So my advice would be, be yourself, man,
• 57:41
  Speaker 1: you know, and I want to I'm so excited to
• 57:43
  Speaker 1: hear from Ashley here. But one of the things is
• 57:45
  Speaker 1: be yourself. Uh, have fun with it. It's one night
• 57:50
  Speaker 1: to see if there's possible connection on stage, and maybe
• 57:53
  Speaker 1: then you can see if things flourish from then on
• 57:56
  Speaker 1: out and we'll kind of follow your story after that.
• 57:59
  Speaker 1: But really it's just a good time to meet people
• 58:02
  Speaker 1: in your area, to have fun with it, and to
• 58:04
  Speaker 1: see this whole concept of finding love in the public eye,
• 58:09
  Speaker 1: in front of the public. Just have fun. It's not
• 58:11
  Speaker 1: gonna be low, very low pressure Ashley, I gotta ask you.
• 58:15
  Speaker 1: When we announced Connor as our bachelor in Los Angeles,
• 58:18
  Speaker 1: people flipped like he Like I knew he's I mean,
• 58:21
  Speaker 1: he's obviously a good looking dude, very smart, well put together,
• 58:25
  Speaker 1: great guy, but when he was announced people went ecstatic
• 58:30
  Speaker 1: for I had no clue there was so much love
• 58:32
  Speaker 1: for Connor out there. Do you feel that? I got
• 58:35
  Speaker 1: an email Connor from a girl who does publicity in
• 58:38
  Speaker 1: Los Angeles and she was like, I know this is
• 58:40
  Speaker 1: a long shot, but if you have any way of
• 58:43
  Speaker 1: helping me get on like Connor's cast during Bachelor Live,
• 58:49
  Speaker 1: can you help me? So I forwarded it to Ben
• 58:52
  Speaker 1: and then Ben said like, I got you. So who
• 58:54
  Speaker 1: knows this girl? Maybe one of your ladies? So yeah,
• 58:59
  Speaker 1: there is definitely excitement people are trying to get in.
• 59:02
  Speaker 1: Um my question is it's l a, but don't you
• 59:06
  Speaker 1: live in Texas? I do. I do live in Dallas.
• 59:12
  Speaker 1: But I heard that even if you do find a
• 59:15
  Speaker 1: girl that you really like from here, as long as
• 59:16
  Speaker 1: you like her enough, you're you're down to make it longer. Sence, Yeah,
• 59:20
  Speaker 1: absolutely definitely. I mean it's it's kind of the same
• 59:23
  Speaker 1: concept with the you're the main shows. Most of those
• 59:26
  Speaker 1: people live in different areas, and you find someone you
• 59:29
  Speaker 1: connect with, um and you want to make it work.
• 59:32
  Speaker 1: You find a way to make it work. So we'll see,
• 59:35
  Speaker 1: we'll see what happens. But I'm I'm looking forward to it,
• 59:37
  Speaker 1: and I'm really honored to be the Bachelor in l A. UM,
• 59:41
  Speaker 1: I want to know how you're going to do in
• 59:43
  Speaker 1: front of a live audience versus a TV audience, because
• 59:47
  Speaker 1: like obviously a TV audience like they're not going to
• 59:52
  Speaker 1: they're judging you, giving their feedback months later after the
• 59:57
  Speaker 1: action is already done. Do I feel like there's more
• 59:59
  Speaker 1: press or with a live audience? Are you going to
• 1:00:01
  Speaker 1: let them sway you? Yeah? I agree. I mean I
• 1:00:05
  Speaker 1: want them to help me with the decisions because they
• 1:00:07
  Speaker 1: might see things that I don't. But unfortunately, I think
• 1:00:11
  Speaker 1: having I was on the finale of the Bachelor when
• 1:00:15
  Speaker 1: I met Hannah, um so there was a live audience
• 1:00:18
  Speaker 1: there and I think that was super helpful to go
• 1:00:20
  Speaker 1: through that experience and then go on to those shows.
• 1:00:23
  Speaker 1: Um So, I think some of that stuff will kind
• 1:00:25
  Speaker 1: of help with this experience, but it'll definitely be like
• 1:00:29
  Speaker 1: nothing I've experienced before. So I'm looking forward to it.
• 1:00:32
  Speaker 1: You're also going to be like possibly kissing girls in
• 1:00:36
  Speaker 1: front of an audience and like having first conversations in
• 1:00:39
  Speaker 1: front of an audience, and it just feels it's like,
• 1:00:41
  Speaker 1: how are you used to stage shows? Have you been?
• 1:00:44
  Speaker 1: Are you afraid of public speaking? Like it's a whole
• 1:00:47
  Speaker 1: other nerve component component in my opinion, versus being on camera,
• 1:00:52
  Speaker 1: Like cameras don't always make me nerves, don't really make
• 1:00:55
  Speaker 1: me nervous, but a live audience you feel like you
• 1:00:57
  Speaker 1: have to like meet their expectations. You want to entertain them. Yeah, yeah, no,
• 1:01:03
  Speaker 1: I agree. Um I was a bookworm in the fifth
• 1:01:06
  Speaker 1: grade play, so maybe, but um no, yeah, I mean
• 1:01:13
  Speaker 1: it will definitely be a lot different. I'm looking forward
• 1:01:15
  Speaker 1: to it. I think, you know, bachelord Nations really great.
• 1:01:17
  Speaker 1: All the fans and um, you know they they're gonna
• 1:01:21
  Speaker 1: help me find find the one for me. So yeah,
• 1:01:24
  Speaker 1: I trust their opinions and it'll be a lot of fun.
• 1:01:28
  Speaker 1: And I'm there, like you know, Beck and I will,
• 1:01:31
  Speaker 1: we'll be co hosting this. We're gonna be there to
• 1:01:34
  Speaker 1: help you out, We'll walk you through this. I'll be
• 1:01:36
  Speaker 1: nervous to man, I mean, Ashley, can you imagine what
• 1:01:39
  Speaker 1: we're about to walk into, like two thousand people every
• 1:01:42
  Speaker 1: night watching us put on this show on stage, like
• 1:01:44
  Speaker 1: it is a whole new beast, and as we prep
• 1:01:47
  Speaker 1: right now for it and practice it, like I get
• 1:01:50
  Speaker 1: nervous just standing up on stage, So I'll be nervous
• 1:01:53
  Speaker 1: there with you, but you know, hey, we'll coach you
• 1:01:56
  Speaker 1: through it. Yeah. I appreciate. And I heard you're gonna
• 1:01:59
  Speaker 1: be uh bust some moves on stage. Is that true? Oh? Yeah, definitely. Man.
• 1:02:04
  Speaker 1: I I mean, I've got these dance shoes and I'm
• 1:02:06
  Speaker 1: looking at right now that I'm telling you, like, the
• 1:02:10
  Speaker 1: moves that I'm pulling off have never been seen before.
• 1:02:13
  Speaker 1: They It takes a lot of flexibility to pull off
• 1:02:18
  Speaker 1: what I'm about to do, and it looks it looks
• 1:02:21
  Speaker 1: really ugly while I'll do it, but I'm gonna try
• 1:02:23
  Speaker 1: my hardest. Bud Well, You're gonna have to teach you
• 1:02:27
  Speaker 1: some pointers because from one one tall guy to another. Uh,
• 1:02:31
  Speaker 1: you know, definitely don't have the best moves, but working
• 1:02:35
  Speaker 1: on it. Connor, final question for you before I let
• 1:02:39
  Speaker 1: you go. Yeah, we've seen your love stories play out,
• 1:02:44
  Speaker 1: We've seen you put yourself out there. Um, what is
• 1:02:47
  Speaker 1: it that you're looking for in a partner, a friend,
• 1:02:51
  Speaker 1: a confidante. Yeah, I mean I think you know someone
• 1:02:56
  Speaker 1: who's outgoing, adventurous. I'm kind of a eider guys with
• 1:03:00
  Speaker 1: someone that brings out, uh, that brings me out of
• 1:03:04
  Speaker 1: my shell a little bit. I think that's super important
• 1:03:05
  Speaker 1: to me. But you know, also someone that just kind
• 1:03:09
  Speaker 1: of like loves you back, I guess, and that's something
• 1:03:13
  Speaker 1: that I think has been missing in the last couple
• 1:03:16
  Speaker 1: of relationships that have been seen on TV. UM. And
• 1:03:19
  Speaker 1: then the other thing is just that spark. It's kind
• 1:03:21
  Speaker 1: of like undefinable thing that you can't really describe. It's
• 1:03:27
  Speaker 1: just that feeling you get with someone, especially when you
• 1:03:30
  Speaker 1: first meet them. Um, And to me, it's really important
• 1:03:33
  Speaker 1: to have that. So kind of all those things and
• 1:03:36
  Speaker 1: a lot more too. But you know, I'm really open
• 1:03:38
  Speaker 1: to to anything. Hey, we can't wait to have you
• 1:03:42
  Speaker 1: on stage man, thanks for doing it. It will be fun.
• 1:03:46
  Speaker 1: What a cool I hope you feel how big of
• 1:03:48
  Speaker 1: a compliment is to you, uh to have you as
• 1:03:50
  Speaker 1: our l a Batchelor. It's gonna be a wild night
• 1:03:53
  Speaker 1: with a bunch of people from Batchel Nation joining us. Hey,
• 1:03:56
  Speaker 1: Connor Sayley, thank you for coming Almost Finist podcast. Yes, sir,
• 1:03:59
  Speaker 1: thank you. Guys. Me on before we say goodbye to
• 1:04:04
  Speaker 1: you all today. It's been an awesome podcast. I think
• 1:04:07
  Speaker 1: these episodes always get better and better every year because
• 1:04:09
  Speaker 1: there's just more and more to talk about. UH, and
• 1:04:11
  Speaker 1: we want to hear from you. We've asked to hear
• 1:04:13
  Speaker 1: from you. We have a few emails that we're gonna
• 1:04:14
  Speaker 1: read through before we say goodbye. The first one is
• 1:04:17
  Speaker 1: from Rachel says, I don't understand why Peter was questioning
• 1:04:23
  Speaker 1: Hannah and so much about if she was ready for
• 1:04:25
  Speaker 1: marriage or even been in love because she's twenty three. Madison,
• 1:04:29
  Speaker 1: who was a front runner, is also twenty three. What
• 1:04:31
  Speaker 1: are your thoughts. I don't think it's the age that matters.
• 1:04:35
  Speaker 1: I think it's just probably the posture that they're coming
• 1:04:37
  Speaker 1: into each conversation. I think Madison is probably coming into
• 1:04:40
  Speaker 1: each conversation talking about the future, UH, talking about her
• 1:04:44
  Speaker 1: dreams and what she had desires UH and a partner,
• 1:04:48
  Speaker 1: and I haven't heard that of Hannah and yet. So
• 1:04:51
  Speaker 1: it's not as much about the age as the person
• 1:04:55
  Speaker 1: and what they're kind of communicating to Peter. Ashley, do
• 1:04:58
  Speaker 1: you agree I completely agree, and I am mind boggled
• 1:05:04
  Speaker 1: by this email from Sky, who writes in some new
• 1:05:08
  Speaker 1: Chase Rice lyrics from a song called Lonely. If you
• 1:05:13
  Speaker 1: are y'all, these are the lyrics if it's Monday and
• 1:05:18
  Speaker 1: it's over, you know, the show your girls all come
• 1:05:21
  Speaker 1: over for, and the red wines getting lower and your
• 1:05:24
  Speaker 1: last friends out the door when you're when there's no
• 1:05:28
  Speaker 1: more roses to go around. Hit me up, girl, you
• 1:05:31
  Speaker 1: know I'm down. Oh wow, my god, dude, you didn't
• 1:05:41
  Speaker 1: just have a one night stand with her. You're into her?
• 1:05:46
  Speaker 1: You he likes her? Is that what it means he's
• 1:05:49
  Speaker 1: running away from this whole thing at first? Is he
• 1:05:51
  Speaker 1: running back into it now he's trying to get her back,
• 1:05:56
  Speaker 1: or he's just trying to get a lot of buzz.
• 1:05:59
  Speaker 1: I don't know what it is. I know you're loving it.
• 1:06:03
  Speaker 1: We're loving it here. Hey, Ashley, what a podcast, some
• 1:06:07
  Speaker 1: crazy breaking news. We'll talk to you very soon with
• 1:06:11
  Speaker 1: the next episode, which is Hometowns of Peter season of
• 1:06:15
  Speaker 1: The Bachelor. With that I've Been Been, I've been Ashley. Bye, guys,
• 1:06:18
  Speaker 1: thank you for listening. Follow the Benn and Ashley I
• 1:06:22
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• 1:06:25
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