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Speaker 1: Wow, you're listening to Eagles postgame analysis here at the
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Speaker 1: Philadelphia Sports Table podcast show, the longest running weekly phillyp
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Speaker 1: sports podcast show in the world. The Eagles beating the
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Speaker 1: Tampa Bay Buccaneers on the road down in Tampa Bay
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Speaker 1: at Raymond James Stadium by a score of thirty one
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Speaker 1: to twenty five. Wow, we're gonna get into this game.
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Speaker 1: Eagles are four and oh on the season. Jalen Hurts
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Speaker 1: eighteen and oh over the course of his last eighteen
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Speaker 1: games that he has started and finished in those games.
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Speaker 1: I'm Jeff Warren and I'm here my good buddy Len
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Speaker 1: Hunseker len Man a tailor two halves for both the
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Speaker 1: Eagles defense and offense offense specifically. But we're gonna get
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Speaker 1: into our themes here, buddy. You know, do you want
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Speaker 1: to start us off? You know they guess one of
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Speaker 1: your biggest takeaways and themes from this.
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Speaker 2: Game, just the whole kind of tail two half's thing.
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Speaker 2: You mentioned the offense, the fact that they were so
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Speaker 2: heavily outgained I think three seventy six to the Bucks
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Speaker 2: for two hundred to the Eagles, and then it just
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Speaker 2: got to a point because they didn't show a thing
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Speaker 2: towards the end of the game of that the Buccaneers
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Speaker 2: all three other wins so far this year had come
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Speaker 2: in the last minute of the game. So you see
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Speaker 2: the momentum firmly on Tampa side and you see that
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Speaker 2: little graphic and you're like, shit, here we go.
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Speaker 1: Yeah.
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Speaker 2: So, because everything that the Eagles were doing, it felt
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Speaker 2: very much like, oh shit, here we go. Yeah. I
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Speaker 2: want to, I don't know, eventually talk about the play
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Speaker 2: calling at some point because I think it's a little predictable. Yeah.
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Speaker 2: I think that they use or they go to Saquon
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Speaker 2: way too much for a team that has two number
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Speaker 2: one receivers. Yeah. I think they're predictable. I do so. Yeah.
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Speaker 2: And not to say there weren't some some nice plays
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Speaker 2: because that the touchdown that Barkley had out of the
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Speaker 2: tush push formation, Yeah, the fake push was great. Yeah,
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Speaker 2: I thought that was awesome. But it just feels like
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Speaker 2: they forget that they have wide receivers sometimes.
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Speaker 1: Absolutely, And look, I mean the wide receivers were targeted
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Speaker 1: in this game, especially aj Brown. He was targeted nine times,
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Speaker 1: only came down with two balls for seven yards.
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Speaker 2: Not a great game for him all.
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Speaker 1: No, not at all, But I'd like your theme to
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Speaker 1: start this out the fact that the the you know
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Speaker 1: old uh you know old, the old sturdy of this
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Speaker 1: Philadelphi Eagles team over the past year has been Saquon
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Speaker 1: Barkley and the fact that we know what Saquon did
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Speaker 1: last year. And I was one of those people, along
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Speaker 1: with our friend brand Leegauton from Bleeding Green Nation dot
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Speaker 1: com on our preview show, who said, you know what,
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Speaker 1: we think that Saquon Barkley can replicate what he did
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Speaker 1: last year. You know, we're some of the only folks
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Speaker 1: out there that actually thought that he could replicate what
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Speaker 1: he did last year. I remember you saying it's gonna
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Speaker 1: be really tough to do, and you know what it is,
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Speaker 1: it's really tough for him to do that because at
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Speaker 1: this point, everybody's key on it exactly. I mean, in
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Speaker 1: this game, he only had forty three yards on nineteen carries. Yes,
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Speaker 1: he had that touchdown off the fake push push, but
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Speaker 1: only two point three yards per carry. Len And coming
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Speaker 1: into this game he was only averaging three point three
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Speaker 1: yards per carry. This isn't the same Saquon Barkley, and
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Speaker 1: something needs to happen with the play calling on this offense.
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Speaker 1: Like you said, it's a great theme coming out of
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Speaker 1: this game.
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Speaker 2: Especially once you lose a guy like Lane Johnson. We
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Speaker 2: have to talk about that. I know, Stein got dinged
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Speaker 2: up for a play. I know he came back, but
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Speaker 2: you know, you know, and then just that style of
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Speaker 2: play in that weather. I know we're used to Okay,
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Speaker 2: we got the lead late, we're just gonna grind these
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Speaker 2: teams into a fine pace with Saquon in the offensive line.
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Speaker 2: But when the offensive line is dinged up and Saquon
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Speaker 2: has run the ball this much and it's hundred degrees
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Speaker 2: on the field, yeah, you know that's going to take
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Speaker 2: something out of your offense too, not just the defense.
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Speaker 1: Absolutely, you know what, getting into the play calling too.
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Speaker 1: I didn't think we're actually going to get into this
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Speaker 1: right off the bat too. But the one thing that's
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Speaker 1: extremely frustrating, and it sounds like they lost the game
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Speaker 1: the way we're talking here, right yeah, yeah, but the
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Speaker 1: plays like the third down conversions that we just did
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Speaker 1: not see in the second half of the game. Yes,
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Speaker 1: they're trying to get the ball to aj Brown again,
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Speaker 1: he was targeted nine times in this game. Is in
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Speaker 1: a decent amount within the second half, but they're not
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Speaker 1: getting them over the middle of the field. It's outside
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Speaker 1: the numbers consistently. And if you're consistently being defended well
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Speaker 1: outside the numbers, I don't understand why the play calling
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Speaker 1: continues to go in that direction. And you got to
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Speaker 1: go over the field with some either either some slants,
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Speaker 1: some mesh concepts, or just some intermediate routes that's going
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Speaker 1: to end up netting you at least maybe anywhere from
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Speaker 1: you know, I don't know, eight to ten yards that'd
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Speaker 1: be nice.
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Speaker 2: Yeah, Well, I mean, and it's I think that they
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Speaker 2: find that they they found themselves in this game, and
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Speaker 2: you know, maybe one or two others in a lot
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Speaker 2: of third and obvious passing situations because you know, Sakwan's
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Speaker 2: getting two yards on first down and two yards on
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Speaker 2: second down, suddenly it's third and six. Yeah, I think
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Speaker 2: that's the thing that's beginning to happen a little bit
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Speaker 2: more than I would like to see.
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Speaker 1: Absolutely. Look, mentioned some injuries. Want to mention those right
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Speaker 1: off the bat. Mentioned Tyler Steen. He went down with
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Speaker 1: a knee injury. He did come back with a sleeve
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Speaker 1: on it. I'm gonna have to monitor that for the
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Speaker 1: future Lane Johnson going out with a stinger in his shoulder.
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Speaker 1: Fred Johnson came in looked very serviceable just from the
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Speaker 1: naked eye what I saw. Jalen Carter, he also went
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Speaker 1: out with a shoulder injury in the fourth quarter, but
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Speaker 1: he came back in. That's another injury that we're certainly
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Speaker 1: going to have to monitor as well. But yeah, let's
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Speaker 1: let's go back to the beginning of this game when
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Speaker 1: if you don't mind, okay, Eagles right off, great, yea.
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Speaker 1: Eagles really set in the tone to start the game.
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Speaker 1: First big play by the Eagles was a punt a
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Speaker 1: punt block excuse me, for a touchdown on the Buccaneer
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Speaker 1: first drive the game. Eagles defense stopped them on third down.
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Speaker 1: What an incredible block by Cam Latu, a great pickup
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Speaker 1: by Sidney Brown to return it thirty six yards for
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Speaker 1: that touchdown. And I'm thinking of myself, Man, they had
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Speaker 1: the field. They had two field goal blocks last week
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Speaker 1: to end the game, you know, one of those field
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Speaker 1: goal blocks for a touchdown, and then this play, And
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Speaker 1: I felt like, if there is a way to win
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Speaker 1: or get the advantage in a football game, the Philadelphia Eagles,
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Speaker 1: they've been getting it done, whether it's to start the game,
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Speaker 1: whether it's to end the game. Then you have Jihad
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Speaker 1: Campbell coming up with the interception in the fourth quarter too.
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Speaker 1: I don't necessarily want to say seal the game for
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Speaker 1: the Eagles, but it was a play had to get
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Speaker 1: absolutely and this team is just finding ways to win.
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Speaker 1: They are making plays when they absolutely need to do it,
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Speaker 1: even when they get themselves into certain situations. That was
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Speaker 1: a takeaway for me with this game, and we're consistently
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Speaker 1: seeing it game after game.
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Speaker 2: Win. Yeah. No, absolutely, And god Campbell's he's such a stud. Yeah.
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Speaker 2: He just feels like he's always making a big play.
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Speaker 2: And he was part of something that happened in the
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Speaker 2: first half that I think went away in the second half.
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Speaker 2: Of the Eagles was as soon as the ball got
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Speaker 2: to the Buccaneers players in the first half, boom, somebody
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Speaker 2: was on them. Yeah, Like the Eagles were on their
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Speaker 2: on their offensive players immediately at the point of contact,
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Speaker 2: as soon as the ball got to them, and that,
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Speaker 2: buying large feels felt like it went away. The tackling
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Speaker 2: went away a little bit in the second half. And again,
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Speaker 2: I don't know, if you know the weather, you know
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Speaker 2: plays a part of that a little bit. You know,
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Speaker 2: maybe the guys in Tampa are used to I mean,
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Speaker 2: to me, I think so many of these football players
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Speaker 2: nowadays are from Texas or Californiania or Florida and places
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Speaker 2: where they should be used to it. But what do
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Speaker 2: I know?
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Speaker 1: Right still, you look a lot of these guys, you
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Speaker 1: know that I don't want to say that they're babied necessarily,
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Speaker 1: but you know, they're catered to a lot in the
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Speaker 1: league with you, in different cities, in different atmospheres and environments.
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Speaker 1: But I I think that's a very good point you make.
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Speaker 2: I think the Eagles did try to just real quick,
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Speaker 2: I mean they did try to alleviate that a little bit.
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Speaker 2: I know, they got down there a day earlier. They
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Speaker 2: talked about the precautions they were taking with the shading
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Speaker 2: on the sideline, IVS, extra IVS and hydration and all
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Speaker 2: that stuff. But yeah, it is what it is once
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Speaker 2: you actually get into the game.
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Speaker 1: Yeah, let's get into another theme, and that theme is
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Speaker 1: Jalen Hurts here I mentioned right to start this postgame
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Speaker 1: podcast show eighteen of zero. Over his past eighteen games
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Speaker 1: when he has started and ended a game and boy,
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Speaker 1: was Jalen Hurts in complete control of the offense at
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Speaker 1: the start of this game, absolutely locked in. Eagles were cooking.
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Speaker 1: Jalen Hurts was blitzed on fifty five percent of his
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Speaker 1: dropbacks in the first half per next Gen Stats. He
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Speaker 1: was eight of nine of fifty six yards and two
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Speaker 1: touchdowns on those plays, and it really seemed as though
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Speaker 1: Hertz was really getting to the point where he's just
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Speaker 1: not getting rattled by being blitzed. I mean, we're consistently
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Speaker 1: seeing this week after week, teams and other defenses posing
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Speaker 1: defenses or blitzing him consistently, but he's been able to
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Speaker 1: handle it. He's been able to deal with this. A
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Speaker 1: very strong first half against the Bucks defense that was
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Speaker 1: very good and strung. Jalen Hurts was fifteen of sixteen
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Speaker 1: for one hundred and thirty yards. He averaged eight point
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Speaker 1: one yards per completion, two touchdowns with one hundred and
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Speaker 1: forty point one passer rating. He also had four carries,
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Speaker 1: by the way, for forty two rushing hot yards. Now
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Speaker 1: the second half, ooo, holy crap man.
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Speaker 2: First different, Yeah, and if you look at that final line,
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Speaker 2: it's hard to believe he had even one good half
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Speaker 2: of football, Yes, yes, but you know, yeah, it's I mean,
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Speaker 2: it looked like, you know, one team made adjustments in
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Speaker 2: the at halftime and the other one we're just like, okay,
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Speaker 2: we got it.
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Speaker 1: They were happy to sit on it. Yeah, they were
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Speaker 1: happy to sit on the lead because in the second half,
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Speaker 1: the first two possessions of the game, the Eagles had
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Speaker 1: negative two yards and Jalen Hurts getting back to the
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Speaker 1: tail of two halves, he was zero for seven in
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Speaker 1: the third quarter and then into the fourth quarter with
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Speaker 1: about twelve minutes left. That's horrendous. Oh for seven? How
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Speaker 1: is this happening here? So, I mean it was really weird.
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Speaker 1: The Eagles offense essentially the exact opposite of last week's
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Speaker 1: game against the Rams. I mean, the first drives in
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Speaker 1: the second half only netted them eleven yards on twenty plays.
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Speaker 1: They did have a touchdown which was the fake touch bush,
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Speaker 1: but still it's the exact opposite of last week against
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Speaker 1: the Rams, and it goes to show that the offense
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Speaker 1: can do it, but they have to remain consistent. Consistency
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Speaker 1: was difficult here in this game for the Eagles on offense.
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Speaker 2: Yeah, no, absolutely, it definitely. I mean, you just I
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Speaker 2: don't know. It's just like, how is this the same team? Yeah?
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Speaker 2: You know that was just out there like twenty minutes
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Speaker 2: ago on the field. Yeah. With the way they're playing. Yeah,
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Speaker 2: And I just think, you know, yeah, things are working,
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Speaker 2: you know, going in the first half, but you know
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Speaker 2: you still have to throw some wrinkles out there for
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Speaker 2: this second half. You have to you know, they're gonna adjust. Yes,
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Speaker 2: so have your counters ready? And it felt like that
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Speaker 2: they that the coaching wise, they had no counters ready
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Speaker 2: for whatever Tampa Bay was going to switch up with
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Speaker 2: in the second half, offensively or defensive.
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Speaker 1: Yeah. Good point, very good point. Do you do you
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Speaker 1: have any other themes there? I gotta I got a
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Speaker 1: couple more themes that I wanted to get into, but
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Speaker 1: I don't want to monopoly to watch you. Sure, Okay, look,
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Speaker 1: you're good.
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Speaker 2: Look.
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Speaker 1: I think a lot of positives. I'm gonna shift over
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Speaker 1: to the defense too, and then I'm gonna go back
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Speaker 1: over the offense. I think a lot of positives in
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Speaker 1: this game for the Eagles. But the one area Lend
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Speaker 1: that is becoming I think the just the biggest concern
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Speaker 1: on this team after four weeks is the total and
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Speaker 1: complete lack of a pass rush. The pass rush is
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Speaker 1: absolutely horrendous. It's awful. Nobody's able to get into the
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Speaker 1: backfield and really pressure the quarter the quarterback at all.
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Speaker 1: We're seeing it week after week. Ironically, Moro Ojomo he
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Speaker 1: had he had a sack on Mayfield in the fourth
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Speaker 1: quarter that really helped this team a lot. There are
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Speaker 1: only two in this game, only one quarterback hit. That's it.
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Speaker 1: That's it. This Eagles pass rush is pitiful here at
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Speaker 1: this point. And it's how he's going to need to
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Speaker 1: make a move, I think, because I don't know how
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Speaker 1: long they're going to be able to sustain the quote
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Speaker 1: success that they've been having up front. They need to
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Speaker 1: be able to pressure a quarterback in this in this
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Speaker 1: league in order to be successful. I don't know. It's
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Speaker 1: it's a glaring, glaring situation.
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Speaker 2: Look at the Super Bowl, that's what essentially, I mean,
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Speaker 2: they basically knocked the Chiefs out in the first half
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Speaker 2: of that game with a pass rush insteady and you
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Speaker 2: have to have that. And it's funny, you know, you
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Speaker 2: look at like, Okay, where are the holes in this team?
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Speaker 2: What do they need? Hmm. Down the road, they're going
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Speaker 2: to need to replace Dallas Goddard. So you need to
12:47
Speaker 2: you need to look at who's your tight end in
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Speaker 2: the future come into the season. Oh man, we need
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Speaker 2: a quarterback too, or corner on the on the other
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Speaker 2: side of Mitchell. You know, we got to have another
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Speaker 2: outside corner. We clearly don't have that now. Okay, Well,
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Speaker 2: with the first round pick, do we go with an
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Speaker 2: edge rusher because we need one. Yeah. I thought it
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Speaker 2: was funny when they did the graphics for the game
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Speaker 2: in the beginning and they're doing the starting lineups. They
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Speaker 2: basically had the Eagles in like a three to four
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Speaker 2: and their entire defensive line was defensive tax defensive tackles.
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Speaker 2: It was a Jomo and and Carter and shooting Jordan
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Speaker 2: Davis at Jordan Davis. Yeah, and it was like that's
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Speaker 2: how they're lining up. Yeah, that just goes to show
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Speaker 2: Nolan Smith being out for a while. That's gonna hurt yea.
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Speaker 2: But they they have to find an answer somewhere because
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Speaker 2: that is absolutely going to bite them in the ass
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Speaker 2: at some point in the next couple of weeks.
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Speaker 1: Yeah, Nolan Smith probably not back to week ten something
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Speaker 1: like that. I think, you know, after the bye week.
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Speaker 1: So look, I mean when it comes to the defense too,
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Speaker 1: I do. I do want to mention some good stuff too.
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Speaker 1: Quinon Mitchell just all over Amika uh in Buka. The
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Speaker 1: first three targets in Buka only caught one ball for
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Speaker 1: one yard. You know, I gotta mention that Cooper Dejen
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Speaker 1: just had a tremendous game. We're talking past breakups by
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Speaker 1: these guys. They were playing physical, they were playing really
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Speaker 1: close to these defenders, really not letting him get too
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Speaker 1: too many steps on them. Yes, we did see two
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Speaker 1: to Gihad Campbell. He completely whiffed on that Bucky Irving touchdown.
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Speaker 1: And I know that there was the other seventy the
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Speaker 1: other seventy yard Buka.
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Speaker 2: I can't remember who was on him though.
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Speaker 1: Well that dude, okay, So I actually that was enraging
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Speaker 1: in the third quarter. That touchdown some of the worst
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Speaker 1: defense I think we've actually seen from the Philadelphia Eagles
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Speaker 1: in quite some time. Andrew mcco well, Macoba looked horrendously
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Speaker 1: lost on that play, like he could have stopped the touchdown,
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Speaker 1: but he was utterly cololess about what was happening around him.
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Speaker 1: I'm not sure if he thought if Reid blank and
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Speaker 1: Ship tipped it or something or actually made a play.
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Speaker 1: Just overall horrendous defense. But he did. He did, He
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Speaker 1: absolutely did. Yes, he did. But from a defensive perspective,
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Speaker 1: it kind of was a mixed bag at times. You know,
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Speaker 1: they gave up some big plays, but they also made
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Speaker 1: some big plays too. Again, Quinnon, Mitchell, Cooper Dejen definitely
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Speaker 1: definitely some of the MVPs I think of this defense.
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Speaker 1: But really quick getting back to the offense before we
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Speaker 1: go to break here, buddy, I really wanted to highlight
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Speaker 1: the fact that one, there was no tush push in
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Speaker 1: this game. We did not see it once. It was nice.
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Speaker 1: It was a fake tush push, right, Yeah, but Dallas
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Speaker 1: Goddard's first touchdown of the game and also his second
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Speaker 1: touchdown of the game, that two yard flip pass to
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Speaker 1: Godard his first of the game. I think most of
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Speaker 1: us thought that we were going to see the tush
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Speaker 1: push at that point, but they had this four wide
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Speaker 1: receiver bunch set to the right of the formation. I'm like,
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Speaker 1: what the hell is this. I have never seen this
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Speaker 1: before and it was just a flip pass to got
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Speaker 1: it for a touchdown, just a It was a cool
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Speaker 1: looking new play. Yes, absolutely and then Dallas Goddard with
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Speaker 1: a second touchdown. The last time he had two receiving
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Speaker 1: touchdowns in a game was back on December fifth, twenty
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Speaker 1: twenty one, when he had two against the New York Jets.
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Speaker 1: Gardner Minshew was actually the quarterback in that game. But
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Speaker 1: I like the fact that we had those little flip passes.
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Speaker 1: We were talking about how the offense needs a little
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Speaker 1: bit of creativity and a little something new in here.
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Speaker 1: I'm really glad we saw that they still need some
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Speaker 1: new stuff for sure. I mean, yeah, absolutely, but I
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Speaker 1: just wanted to mention that I thought that was actually
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Speaker 1: good and positive to see in this game. And again,
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Speaker 1: I feel like we're talking like this team lost this game, but.
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Speaker 2: It's a good way to get Goddard involved, where like
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Speaker 2: it feels like sometimes you know, maybe it's a little
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Speaker 2: tough to get him involved in that, and that's a
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Speaker 2: that's a good little thing down at the goal line. Yeah,
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Speaker 2: you can do to get him kind of maybe going
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Speaker 2: in the offense a little bit. So yeah, yeah, I again, yeah,
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Speaker 2: this uh game, probably because of the way it unfolded,
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Speaker 2: is going to sound like a lot more complaining than
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Speaker 2: it should. But yeah, no, there's I mean, there's a
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Speaker 2: little shitimate concerns, and I mean I'm happy that they're
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Speaker 2: banking wins, you know, because there is going to come
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Speaker 2: a stretch in this year, especially if injuries, you know,
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Speaker 2: pile up and if you know, the play calling con
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Speaker 2: doesn't get ironed out a little bit where you know
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Speaker 2: they're going to drop a game or two here, and
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Speaker 2: it's just get them while you can get them, get
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Speaker 2: these wins while you can get them. You know, you
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Speaker 2: have the Broncos come up, that should be an interesting game.
17:22
Speaker 2: You also have in your next four you have two
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Speaker 2: against the Giants, who I don't know if you saw,
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Speaker 2: but I think Molik Neighbors got hurt.
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Speaker 1: Yeah, that's that's an ACL injury problem.
17:31
Speaker 2: That is that is a gigantic loss for that team, unfortunately.
17:37
Speaker 1: Congratulations to the Giants and the Jets for having some
17:39
Speaker 1: of the worst turf in the NFL and one of
17:41
Speaker 1: the richest cities in the world. Congratulations guys. What a
17:44
Speaker 1: bunch of idiots.
17:45
Speaker 2: But you know, I you know, I'm not a Giants
17:48
Speaker 2: fan by any stretch, but you know, you want to
17:49
Speaker 2: see elite players play, and that's what I think Molik
17:53
Speaker 2: neighbors is and so that's going to hurt them man
17:56
Speaker 2: big time, absolutely.
17:58
Speaker 1: Really quick before we go to break. And if you
18:00
Speaker 1: if you have any other themes that you wanted to
18:02
Speaker 1: get into lend. I mean, at this point, Aj Brown
18:04
Speaker 1: he's got one hundred and fifty one yards on the
18:06
Speaker 1: season after four weeks. It just stinks. And then you see,
18:10
Speaker 1: you know, you have a talent like Davante Smith who
18:13
Speaker 1: only had coming into this game had one hundred and
18:16
Speaker 1: twenty nine yards, and then you can add on his
18:18
Speaker 1: twenty nine yards to that. We have elite wide receivers
18:21
Speaker 1: on this team, and they the quarterback has not been
18:24
Speaker 1: able to get them the ball. Whether it is play
18:26
Speaker 1: calling or what the hell is going on? I don't know.
18:28
Speaker 2: It's kind of funny because if you look at I
18:30
Speaker 2: mean just based on what we think we've seen in
18:33
Speaker 2: these four games as far as stat lines go, if
18:37
Speaker 2: you go on Football Reference dot Com right now and
18:39
Speaker 2: look at the Eagles season thus far and you look
18:42
Speaker 2: at Hurts and Barkley and Smith and AJ Brown, you
18:45
Speaker 2: look at their stats so far this season, you got
18:48
Speaker 2: to be like, how the hell is this team? Four
18:50
Speaker 2: and O Like they're big guns, right, aren't really racking
18:54
Speaker 2: up numbers, right, So yeah, I mean, it's a strange thing.
18:59
Speaker 2: They're just in weird ways.
19:01
Speaker 1: I guess, I guess. I guess it goes back to
19:03
Speaker 1: that point that I made earlier too, where you know,
19:06
Speaker 1: whether it was like the blocked field goals or whether
19:08
Speaker 1: it's Jihad Campbell's interception, if there's a way to win
19:12
Speaker 1: or to get the advantage within the game itself. The
19:15
Speaker 1: Philadelphia Eagles, they're getting it done.
19:19
Speaker 2: In the games, which is funny. I hate to use
19:23
Speaker 2: this term right away with the Eagles because I don't
19:25
Speaker 2: feel like they've won enough to warrant it. But you
19:30
Speaker 2: see it with dynasties, and it's it's called I was
19:33
Speaker 2: thinking about it because I think of a team that
19:35
Speaker 2: we watched last night that doesn't have it. In Penn
19:37
Speaker 2: State with James Franklin. There's a thing called championship DNA,
19:42
Speaker 2: and there's a thing also called, you know, the opposite whatever.
19:45
Speaker 2: The opposite of that is what Penn State has in
19:47
Speaker 2: big games against un racked teams. But this is the
19:51
Speaker 2: exact kind of game I'm talking about, a championship DNA
19:54
Speaker 2: where in the second half, let's be honest, I mean,
19:57
Speaker 2: the Eagles at times looked like they had no business
20:00
Speaker 2: winning this game.
20:01
Speaker 1: Yep.
20:01
Speaker 2: But you just find a way to win a game
20:04
Speaker 2: that maybe you shouldn't have and you get away with
20:07
Speaker 2: some and that's what the really good to great teams do,
20:10
Speaker 2: and that's what the Eagles did here.
20:12
Speaker 1: Great way and this first segment unless you have any
20:15
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20:17
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20:21
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20:55
Speaker 1: are gonna be grading what we saw by unit with
20:59
Speaker 1: this philadelph f Eagles teams as they again beat the
21:03
Speaker 1: Tampa Bay Buccaneers down in Tampa Bay by score thirty
21:05
Speaker 1: one to twenty five. The quarterback position, Jalen Hurts fifteen
21:08
Speaker 1: of twenty four one hundred and thirty yards five point
21:11
Speaker 1: four yards per attempt to touchdowns. He ended with a
21:14
Speaker 1: rating of one hundred and four point five. He was
21:17
Speaker 1: sack two times. Len, I'm gonna give Jalen Hurts this
21:19
Speaker 1: week a B minus. What do you give him? I mean,
21:24
Speaker 1: he did what he had to do early?
21:26
Speaker 2: I mean, he was good early, rather, I guess I
21:29
Speaker 2: should say, and then the second half. I mean I
21:32
Speaker 2: almost wish you could go through this all these units
21:35
Speaker 2: and grade them, give them two grades, one for the
21:37
Speaker 2: first half and one for the second. Yeah, can't do that, unfortunately.
21:42
Speaker 2: I'll go B minus. And I feel like that's a
21:45
Speaker 2: very generous grade.
21:46
Speaker 1: It's probably it's probably generous. It could be plus C
21:49
Speaker 1: C plus, it could be, but I'm gonna I'm gonna
21:51
Speaker 1: go be minus as well, all right. The rushing attack
21:55
Speaker 1: what could be considered a rushing attack with sa Quon
21:59
Speaker 1: Barkley putting forty three yards on nineteen carries, aj Dillon
22:02
Speaker 1: putting up seventeen yards on three carries, Barkley with one
22:07
Speaker 1: touchdown for whatever reason, Like we talked about before the break,
22:11
Speaker 1: the running game has not been able to get going
22:13
Speaker 1: at all after four weeks and Saquon Barkley only managing
22:17
Speaker 1: about three and a half yards not even three and
22:19
Speaker 1: a half yards per attempt this season. I'm gonna give
22:23
Speaker 1: the rushing a C minus. Actually, Lynn, what do you
22:25
Speaker 1: give them even with that touchdown?
22:27
Speaker 2: Before I do that? And I hate to like kind
22:30
Speaker 2: of veer off a little bit, but like, I know,
22:32
Speaker 2: you have this amazing weapon in Saquon Barkley, but he
22:35
Speaker 2: is a guy that I feel like they're kind of
22:38
Speaker 2: like last year a ton of carries, Like they have
22:42
Speaker 2: Dylan and they have Shipley. Do you feel like they
22:45
Speaker 2: could use them more? Yes, you know, just give Barkley
22:49
Speaker 2: this series off and just because you know, I feel
22:52
Speaker 2: like Dylan gives you the power back and Shipley can
22:56
Speaker 2: give you kind of a shifty guy, yes, like and
22:59
Speaker 2: just a change yup, a change of pace and just
23:01
Speaker 2: give to just take a few miles off of Barkley's
23:04
Speaker 2: O doometer. Yeah.
23:05
Speaker 1: Look, aj Dillon is He's only carried the ball six
23:07
Speaker 1: times this year, but he's averaging four point eight yards
23:10
Speaker 1: per carry. There's something to be said for that.
23:12
Speaker 2: Let's let's use that a little bit. Yea, So all right,
23:15
Speaker 2: I'm going on a tangent here. That's you know, Barkley
23:19
Speaker 2: had the game. He had, like you mentioned, forty three
23:21
Speaker 2: yards two point three yards of carry hurts. I think
23:25
Speaker 2: that a very you know, just a running back position
23:28
Speaker 2: moving around. Yeah, oh okay, I'm looking at the rushing
23:31
Speaker 2: in jail. Yeah okay, running back position then yeah see.
23:35
Speaker 1: Yeah, okay, all right, I did see minus c for you.
23:38
Speaker 1: I think it's very fair. All right, Let's move over
23:40
Speaker 1: to the receivers. Man. It's it's it's tough when you're
23:43
Speaker 1: only putting up one hundred and thirty yards total receiving
23:46
Speaker 1: when you've got talent like Devonte Smith, AJ Brown and
23:51
Speaker 1: Dallas Goddard. Yes, Goddar did have two touchdowns, but again
23:54
Speaker 1: only eight point seven yards per reception. For this receiving corps,
23:59
Speaker 1: you got John Metch as well, who was targeted twice.
24:01
Speaker 1: He came down with ten or he had ten yards
24:05
Speaker 1: as well. I just like, it's just so frustrating. The
24:09
Speaker 1: passing game is frustrating this season in so many ways.
24:11
Speaker 1: So I'm actually gonna give the receivers this week a
24:13
Speaker 1: sea and it might not be their fault completely, but
24:15
Speaker 1: they're gonna get to see what do you give them.
24:18
Speaker 2: Yeah, this definitely is gonna be a game that aj
24:20
Speaker 2: Brown puts in the you know, the career highlight reel
24:23
Speaker 2: for sure. Yeah. Overall, I mean you want to if
24:27
Speaker 2: you want to take Dallas Goddard out of the mix.
24:29
Speaker 2: There it was the very definition of pedestrian and this
24:34
Speaker 2: is what has to get better. And if you want
24:37
Speaker 2: to get Saquon going, this has to get better because
24:40
Speaker 2: otherwise there's no reason for for defenses to worry about it.
24:45
Speaker 2: I mean, they're going to continue to sell out on
24:47
Speaker 2: Saquon until this gets better. I'll go. I will go
24:55
Speaker 2: C minus and Dallas Goddard brings that great up a lot.
24:59
Speaker 1: Okay, I think that's fair. And look, I'm gonna get
25:02
Speaker 1: into him when we're doing the offensive grading or the
25:04
Speaker 1: offensive coaching grading. But Kevin Patulo, I do not believe
25:08
Speaker 1: is necessarily helping things with regard to how.
25:11
Speaker 2: This is where they're not all in sync yet. Ye,
25:15
Speaker 2: I mean you can tell and maybe maybe by the
25:18
Speaker 2: end of the year we'll kind of be like last
25:20
Speaker 2: year when like oh remember after Game four when we
25:22
Speaker 2: were all worried and then lol, we went on a
25:25
Speaker 2: run and everything was fine. Hopefully that happens, but you know,
25:29
Speaker 2: it's a it's a first year offensive coordinator. There's no
25:31
Speaker 2: guarantee that's gonna happen.
25:32
Speaker 1: Right offensive line, I'm gonna give them a B. Could
25:36
Speaker 1: be a B minus. You know, Hurts getting sacked two times. There's,
25:40
Speaker 1: of course, there's some injury stuff going on with Lane Johnson.
25:43
Speaker 1: Tyler Steen went out, came back in, but not the
25:47
Speaker 1: strongest in terms of the rushing attack either. I mean,
25:50
Speaker 1: they got to open up some holes for Barkley and
25:52
Speaker 1: they really haven't been able to do that successfully over
25:56
Speaker 1: the past four weeks. So I mean, I'm gonna go
25:58
Speaker 1: B minus with the With the offensive line, what do
26:01
Speaker 1: you give them this week?
26:02
Speaker 2: I thought they gave Hurts, you know, a couple nice
26:05
Speaker 2: pockets to work with, especially in the first half. But yeah,
26:08
Speaker 2: things kind of deteriorated, and really I'm a lot more
26:11
Speaker 2: concerned about the health than I am the grade at
26:14
Speaker 2: this point in the way they played, just because man,
26:17
Speaker 2: Lane Johnson is not a guy that they can afford
26:19
Speaker 2: to lose for any stretch of time. Yeah, So in
26:22
Speaker 2: this one, I'll go C plus.
26:23
Speaker 1: All right, sounds good. Let's move over to the defense.
26:27
Speaker 1: Defensive line. The pass rush just is not getting there.
26:31
Speaker 1: Moro Ojomo with one sack and I'm trying to see
26:34
Speaker 1: who the other sack may have been. One, Zach Bond.
26:37
Speaker 1: That's right, Zach Bond. So that being said, I just
26:41
Speaker 1: I'm gonna give I'm gonna give him a C. I'm
26:44
Speaker 1: really disappointed with the pass rush. That just what the
26:46
Speaker 1: line has been able to do. Now, have they been
26:48
Speaker 1: able to clog up the inside in general? Yes, Bucky
26:52
Speaker 1: Irving did have sixty three yards on fifteen carries four
26:56
Speaker 1: point two yards per per rush today. But look, I
27:04
Speaker 1: I don't know. I'm just I'm just getting a little
27:06
Speaker 1: tired of watching this defensive line. And look, the talent
27:09
Speaker 1: is the talent. So I'm gonna give them a See
27:10
Speaker 1: what do you give them?
27:13
Speaker 2: Yeah, the the numbers are pretty gross. You know, one
27:17
Speaker 2: sack from the defensive line, not a lot of quarterback
27:20
Speaker 2: hits at all. You know, one for a Jomo and
27:24
Speaker 2: that's it for for the whole team. So there you go.
27:28
Speaker 2: Uh D plus not a strong effort at all.
27:33
Speaker 1: I'm gonna be given the linebackers even that, like Zach
27:35
Speaker 1: Bond certainly getting getting the job done in this game
27:38
Speaker 1: with eight total tackles, one sack, one tackle for a
27:41
Speaker 1: loss which was the sack. But in terms of the
27:45
Speaker 1: like Jihad Campbell having a nice, nice day with the
27:48
Speaker 1: interception of course, one pass defended and four total tackles,
27:54
Speaker 1: I'm gonna give them a I'm gonna give them probably
27:57
Speaker 1: a B plus this week. There were some miss tackles
28:00
Speaker 1: here and there. Zach Bond, though, I mean he definitely
28:03
Speaker 1: is a stud. We know what type of player he is.
28:05
Speaker 1: Giodd Campbell made some really nice plays in this game,
28:07
Speaker 1: but also gave up a huge, huge, seventy two yard
28:13
Speaker 1: touchdown to.
28:14
Speaker 2: Bucky Yeah, and that's gonna drag the graade down.
28:16
Speaker 1: Yeah, I mean I'm gonna give I'm gonna give him
28:18
Speaker 1: a I'm gonna give him a B minus this week.
28:21
Speaker 1: What do you give the linebacker corps.
28:24
Speaker 2: I think that's fair. I mean, yeah, the Campbell play
28:28
Speaker 2: that was bad, giving up that long touchdown, but he
28:30
Speaker 2: did have an interception at the end. He had one
28:33
Speaker 2: play in the first half where I mean he ran
28:35
Speaker 2: right through Bucky Irving and I thought I thought he
28:38
Speaker 2: had irving out of the game. Yep, with that hit.
28:41
Speaker 2: It's just the one thing I will say, like, we've
28:44
Speaker 2: been negative a lot today, and I say, I remember
28:47
Speaker 2: the days when I used to pine for one good linebacker, Yes,
28:50
Speaker 2: and now we have two. So it's it's pretty awesome
28:53
Speaker 2: to have that. That said, I think B minus is
28:57
Speaker 2: a fair grade.
28:57
Speaker 1: Okay, all right, sounds good. All right, let's go to
29:02
Speaker 1: the secondary. Secondary was kind of like up and down
29:05
Speaker 1: I thought throughout, but I really do again at the
29:08
Speaker 1: end of the day, I'll say this to kiey Ringo
29:10
Speaker 1: stinks by the way, he has a big time my
29:13
Speaker 1: ability when it comes to tackling. My gosh, the other
29:16
Speaker 1: d backs not not good, not good outside of Quinnon Mitchell,
29:21
Speaker 1: Holy freaking crap. So I I I got to give
29:24
Speaker 1: the secondary and especially uh Macouba giving up that that
29:28
Speaker 1: touchdown to uh oh my gosh, I am I forgetting
29:32
Speaker 1: his name?
29:33
Speaker 2: Oh my gosh, Amica Amica. Yeah.
29:37
Speaker 1: Yeah, so I'm gonna I'm gonna give the secondary this
29:41
Speaker 1: week of B minus as well. What do you give him?
29:44
Speaker 2: I mean, I thought Mitchell had a really good game
29:46
Speaker 2: as usual. The Gene had a couple of nice plays
29:50
Speaker 2: as well. But yeah, ringo, he it's it's rough. I
29:55
Speaker 2: will say that I think on Campbell's interception that was
29:59
Speaker 2: deflected by Reid blank and ship. Yes, you know, so
30:03
Speaker 2: I want to get yeah, yeah, And I want to
30:05
Speaker 2: give him a little bit of credit there. Yeah macouba
30:08
Speaker 2: that that's that's a bad misread there on that. So yeah,
30:12
Speaker 2: that's that's all got a factor in. I'm gonna give
30:15
Speaker 2: him a C in this game.
30:16
Speaker 1: See Okay, all right, sounds good. Let's get to the
30:19
Speaker 1: coaching and offensive defense of special teams unit special teams,
30:24
Speaker 1: I mean, I got, I gotta get. I mean, except
30:26
Speaker 1: for the at the end of the game, dear freaking lord,
30:28
Speaker 1: the safety with Braden Mann, My gosh, what the hell
30:32
Speaker 1: I mean here?
30:33
Speaker 2: I mean, if if it runs those last six seconds
30:36
Speaker 2: off the clock, because if you punt it and they
30:38
Speaker 2: run it back then then you're then this is a
30:42
Speaker 2: whole different tune.
30:43
Speaker 1: I know.
30:43
Speaker 2: So whatever you got to do to get those six
30:45
Speaker 2: seconds off the clock, I mean, unless this affected your gambling,
30:50
Speaker 2: I don't necessarily have a gripe with it.
30:52
Speaker 1: Okay, sounds good that I'm gonna give special teams this
30:55
Speaker 1: week in a simply for them really getting the tone
30:58
Speaker 1: going to start the game with that punt block for
31:00
Speaker 1: the touchdown. So I'm gonna give him an A. What
31:02
Speaker 1: do you give him?
31:03
Speaker 2: Yeah, yeah, I will give them an A minus. I
31:06
Speaker 2: thought that was I thought that was obviously a huge play.
31:10
Speaker 2: I thought Braden Man outside of his his running exploits,
31:15
Speaker 2: I thought he had a really nice day punting. You know, Elliott,
31:19
Speaker 2: you know, made all the kicks he needed to make,
31:21
Speaker 2: uh nothing, you know, crazy. I think Shipley had one
31:25
Speaker 2: nice return at one point. Actually, him and Bigsby each
31:27
Speaker 2: had a nice return.
31:28
Speaker 1: He did thirty nine yards for will Shipley.
31:30
Speaker 2: Yeah, I think special teams is by far the best
31:33
Speaker 2: part of their of their game today. So yeah, I'll
31:38
Speaker 2: go a minus there.
31:39
Speaker 1: Very good, all right? Vic Fangio and his defense boy
31:42
Speaker 1: up and down again? Kind of a tail of two
31:44
Speaker 1: halves and and or, I should say tailed maybe just
31:47
Speaker 1: two situations that this defense gets themselves into every now
31:51
Speaker 1: and again. I mean, I'm gonna give Vic Fangio this
31:54
Speaker 1: week h B minus. What do you give Vic Fangio
31:57
Speaker 1: for his defensive coaching? Yeah?
32:00
Speaker 2: Yeah, I mean it definitely. Uh, I don't know if
32:04
Speaker 2: that thing with macouba is is if that's him, if
32:07
Speaker 2: that's the coaching scheme that happened, Yeah, they they It
32:11
Speaker 2: just looked like a team that ran out of gas, ye,
32:14
Speaker 2: you know, and fortunately they build up enough in the
32:16
Speaker 2: beginning to hang on. It wasn't the greatest game, I'll say,
32:21
Speaker 2: be minus okay defensively.
32:23
Speaker 1: All right, Kevin Petulo Nick Sirianni the offensive coaching this week. Again,
32:29
Speaker 1: Like I mentioned before, Kevin Petulo, I think is having
32:33
Speaker 1: a rough start to his tenure as the offensive coordinator
32:35
Speaker 1: of the Philadelphia Eagles, and we need to see more creativity.
32:38
Speaker 1: We saw some of this game, like I mentioned the
32:40
Speaker 1: flip passes that Dallas Goddard was great.
32:42
Speaker 2: Yeah, those those are great. That the fake bushbush. I mean,
32:45
Speaker 2: there were great individual moments. But you mentioned the word
32:48
Speaker 2: consistent consistency earlier in the show, and yeah, I think
32:52
Speaker 2: we need to see a lot more of that. If
32:54
Speaker 2: we're gonna you know, god, I'm about to say something
32:57
Speaker 2: stupid like, oh they're going to be Yes, they're going
32:59
Speaker 2: to be a contender either way. But you know, if
33:02
Speaker 2: we're gonna really feel good and like, all right, we
33:06
Speaker 2: are hands down the favorite in this conference, Like we
33:09
Speaker 2: need to see more consists. I guess that's what I'm
33:11
Speaker 2: what I'm looking.
33:12
Speaker 1: For, right If they have that championship DNA that you
33:15
Speaker 1: were talking about, you know, like that's not to see it.
33:18
Speaker 2: That consistency has to get better. And you know, again,
33:21
Speaker 2: we were here after game four last season, so I'm
33:25
Speaker 2: hoping this is just a team that, you know, maybe
33:28
Speaker 2: every year they just got to work out the kinks
33:31
Speaker 2: throughout the course of the season and then they get rolling.
33:33
Speaker 1: Absolutely all right, Well, I mean the grade that I'm
33:36
Speaker 1: gonna give the offense here, it's gonna be a B minus.
33:39
Speaker 1: What do you give them? I mean, it could be
33:42
Speaker 1: a C plus to be honest, I'm gonna go C
33:45
Speaker 1: plus because you know, you rattled off some of the
33:47
Speaker 1: team stats to start us off.
33:49
Speaker 2: I mean, we're we're not great.
33:51
Speaker 1: They're not two hundred total yards of offense. That that's
33:55
Speaker 1: not good. It is not good now, So yeah, C
33:58
Speaker 1: plus could be even generous. I thank you here all right, folks.
34:03
Speaker 1: Eagles postgame analysis here at the PST podcast show. Again.
34:06
Speaker 1: The Eagles beating Tampa Bay Buccaneers here in Week four
34:09
Speaker 1: by score thirty one to twenty five. I think that's
34:12
Speaker 1: gonna do it for us, buddy, do you got anything
34:14
Speaker 1: else before we head out here and before we digest
34:17
Speaker 1: this even more this week?
34:20
Speaker 2: I mean it was kind of nerve wracking and all
34:23
Speaker 2: that stuff. Yeah, four and oh is four and oh.
34:26
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34:31
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