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Joi+Blokes VP Adam Woolard on Optimizing Your Health & Feeling Your Best · Harder Than Life

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• 0:30
  What's the biggest myth about hormone health you wish you could erase overnight? Hormone replacement therapy causes cancer or is super detrimental to your health.
• 0:41
  Conventional medicine is just not equipped to help women in perimenopause and menopause. The typical patient that comes to me is very disillusioned with the conventional medicine route. They're comparing you to the average American. So what we do at Joy and Bloke is like, we're comparing you to someone who is actually healthy, actually doing the right things, and their biomarkers reflect that. I think the biggest thing that we can do is educate ourselves on what works for us. And a lot of that is trial and error.
• 1:11
  I want to reach anyone who is trying to become a better version of themselves. I want them to stop accepting mediocrity and such an informational age. Like we have the access in a way that we can have that. We can have a great family. We can have a healthy body and a healthy mind. We can have...
• 1:30
  the finances to support all that, and we can have the faith to back it all up. So I don't think that we are limited in ways that we've kind of taught ourselves to be. I think we can have a very big life and do it all. My guest today lived exactly that. He was a model, still is.
• 1:47
  He was a banker, and in his early 30s, his body started breaking down in ways no one could explain. Then one comprehensive blood panel changed everything. Today, he helps people who feel dismissed by the system finally getting real answers about their own health. Please welcome Vice President of Business Development and Health Coach at Joy and Blokes, Adam Muller. Thank you so much for having me, Kelly. Happy to be here.
• 2:17
  Adam, thanks for joining. We have a little technical difficulties, but we pull it off. Our conversation today is going to be directly to my audience. We are about 60% male and we're growing like crazy. And everybody, just this morning, I got a message. Hey, what peptides are you on? What's this? So we're going to break it all down and I'm going to be bringing more and
• 2:39
  I want the world to be healthy and happy. That's actually the name of my next book, Healthier Than Life. But with me, I'm talking about inside. So let's start with, what did your body start telling you in your early 30s that you simply could not ignore? A lot of it was energy, energy.
• 2:55
  I was 31, 32 years old, and I just didn't feel the way that I thought I should based on what I was doing. And if you have ever been in that situation where you're eating the right things, you feel like you're doing the right things in terms of exercise, you have community, you're outside in the sun. I mean, I was living in California. I was in Southern California. Yeah.
• 3:18
  I was seemingly doing all the right things and I still woke up and just felt this immense dread and just lack of energy and no libido and brain fog. Like I couldn't string words together. So there was a lot of a lack of energy that I just couldn't explain. And I was doing everything.
• 3:39
  everything in my power to get the right answers. And every doctor that I went to, they looked at my blood levels. And granted, they were testing, you know, anywhere from 10 to 20 biomarkers. So they weren't really doing an in-depth blood draw.
• 3:54
  But they would look at my numbers and based on their standardized ranges, they would say, hey, you're good to go. Like you're healthy. You're within a standard American range. And I just knew that there was more to the story. So I had to do some digging and I researched and researched. And.
• 4:12
  Um, eventually got a more in-depth blood draw done at, at Joy and Blokes. And I found out that I was deficient in a lot of areas. So I did a deep dive into my biomarkers and realized that I was, I was doing a lot of the right things, but there were certain areas that I was deficient in. That.
• 4:31
  optimal range and normal. I've been there. It's like deflating. This just happened to me because I go every year to get a whole physical done. And they did a lot of tests and I was very...
• 4:45
  Very happy because they actually ran an EKG and checked my heart. And we have a history of heart disease that runs in a family. So I was a little concerned. And she said, honestly, you have 0% chance of having a heart attack. But every other marker was that normal.
• 5:06
  What does normal, that word, actually hide? So normal to conventional medicine, they're comparing you to the average American. And as we know, the average American is not super healthy. The other day, there's something like 40% of adult Americans have metabolic syndrome. Metabolic syndrome has five different criteria.
• 5:28
  One is high triglycerides. One of them's HDL cholesterol below a certain level. One's weight circumference. One's blood pressure. There are different criteria that make up metabolic syndrome and 40% of adult Americans have metabolic syndrome. So we're not healthy. And that standard range is any average person walking into a doctor's office.
• 5:50
  So what we do at Joy and Blokes is like, okay, we're going to compare you to a healthy American, someone who reports feeling energized throughout the day, reports having good libido, reports, you know, having a healthy amount of muscle on their body.
• 6:07
  There are different measurements and a standard, you know, conventional measurement is way different than what we're seeing in terms of like a holistic health care company like Joy Book. So we're comparing you to someone who is actually healthy, actually doing the right things and their biomarkers reflect that. Adam, for the audience that are listening to this driving on the street, they're saying, yeah, yeah, it's easy for you, Kelly. You live and breathe and eat this. They're probably right.
• 6:35
  What is the moment, the aha moment that they should say this conventional system is not going to give you the answers?
• 6:42
  The moment. I think that moment is different for everyone. One of the biggest things that I see with the patients that I work with is that they operate at a certain level for so long that that becomes their new normal. And then once I start working with them and start changing things in their diet and their exercise routine and their sleep and their stress reduction and the vitamins and nutrients that we give them.
• 7:06
  they start to see a shift and they start to see a change in their energy levels. They start to see their brain coming back to life and actually, you know, feeling like they're a little bit sharper. And they're like, oh, my gosh, I was operating at this level for so long that it became the new normal. So certain things like supplements, peptides, yes, those are great, but little things like
• 7:29
  lifting weights more regularly or getting outside or building community, all of that can change, you know, a person's life considerably and it becomes the new normal. So that, that aha moment is different for everyone. For me, it was just waking up and feeling lethargic when I thought I was doing all the right things. So it's important to come to that realization at some point, but most of it is education.
• 7:54
  I think the biggest thing that we can do is educate ourselves on what works for us. And a lot of that is trial and error. There are things you can add to your diet. Oh, that didn't work. You have to go separate directions. So a lot of it is, what am I doing? How is it making me feel? Okay, did it work? No. Let's go back to the drawing board. So one of the biggest things that you can do is really dive into this stuff and figure out what works for you.
• 8:23
  I was just actually thinking of what was my moment. And literally what I was going to say to people is if you're making changes and they're not working, go. But I thought of something better, especially with joy and blows is just go get the blood test or go get the test done.
• 8:40
  Every year, now that there's a company such as yours, because the biggest problem is access to this. In the past, you couldn't find a company that had all 50 states. So this is syndicated across the country. We've got people in different countries that are listening to the show regularly. But this is available in all 50 states. So the show notes will have how to reach Adam, how to do this. I would highly suggest for all of my men that listen regularly,
• 9:09
  Go sign up for this. And we're not affiliated with them guys in any way, shape or form. I have, I do this on my own and I want to bring more and more on because so many of you are reaching out and asking me what peptides really for me, I've looked like this for 30 years, but I want to pay this forward.
• 9:24
  5 a.m. every single morning, training like crazy. I don't eat like crap. For me, when I went through this, just so you know, it literally was, it was what was going on in my head that was causing gut problems that was causing me to be stuck. So you never know what it is. For you, Adam, when you finally saw your panel, what shocked you the most?
• 9:47
  The biggest thing was my testosterone level. So I was in California at the time. I was running a lot. I was lifting some weights, but not heavy weights. I was doing some kettlebell stuff, but I was running a ton. And that was having a huge effect on my testosterone. Now, I'm not saying you shouldn't go run and do cardio. I think it's really great for mental health. It's obviously great for cardiovascular health.
• 10:11
  But I wasn't lifting to a point to where it was affecting my testosterone levels in a positive way. I was at 299. And if you look at really low, I mean, that's diagnostically low. You consider that hypogonadism. That is something that can really affect your energy levels, your libido, your mental clarity, your ability to put on muscle, lose fat. So I was in bad shape in terms of my testosterone. And I was feeling it.
• 10:37
  And when I talked to one of the clinicians at Joy and Bloss, they were just like, well, why don't you just start lifting weights more? So I got a gym membership and I started lifting three to four times a week while still doing some running. And it changed everything. I went from like 299 up to 580 within a couple of months, just from that and a couple supplements.
• 10:59
  Um, so my vitamin D was also low. So testosterone and vitamin D were kind of the big ones that jumped out at me. My vitamin D was really, really low, even though I was out in the sun quite a bit. Um, so we're not absorbing quite as much as we think. Um, a lot of times in my vitamin D was taken ahead as well. So I added some, some vitamin D3K2 and then I started lifting some more weights and getting some more protein in me. And it changed so much. Energy levels went up, libido went up, mental clarity went up.
• 11:29
  And that was just from information from my biomarkers. And then I could really dive into it. I got an even more extensive panel dud, looked at inflammatory markers, looked at my thyroid, cut out gluten. And, you know, it's a matter of using the information and actually doing something about it and being consistent with it. And that's when I saw the biggest change.
• 11:51
  I just want to make sure that the audience knows that he's talking about free testosterone. And how old were you when you did this first test? I was 32. 32. Wow. I started TRT when I was 38 or 39. And my test, my free test was 262. I was lifting weights every day. I'm a classic example. I can't remember if it was 38 or 39. I feel like it was 39. And...
• 12:20
  all of a sudden I was going in reverse. So the question I asked earlier was what is a sign? If everything that you're doing and you're regressing, that's a red flag right there. Number one thing is the free test. And that's an easy, easy fix, guys. And you can see I have a picture for myself then. It's the only time in my life, well, no, I'm gonna, I'm lying.
• 12:44
  Twice in my life, I was a little chunky. Once when my daughter was born and once at 39 when I finally got on it. So when my daughter was born, I had to like, I couldn't get to the gym. And there's a picture of me painting her room. There's only two times in my life that I was a little overweight. And boy, did I snap out of that right away. So if you're working...
• 13:07
  doing your normal workouts and really bringing it and, and, and you're regressing, reach out to the average people that you see come into your, your company and they run the tests. What would surprise them about their own bodies? The average person.
• 13:25
  Can you expand on that? What do you mean by what would surprise them? What would they say? So we just went very general. It actually worked. We talked about testosterone. Would it be surprising that most everybody in their upper 30s testosterone is going to drop? Or would it be once you improve that, your body will lean up? What are you seeing in general when people come in and get these tests done and actually apply the principles? What happens to their bodies?
• 13:53
  Yeah. So a lot of times we will see high blood sugar. So glucose levels are high. A1C levels. A1C is just a three-month average of your blood sugars. Usually that is a little bit higher. Insulin is higher. So people aren't eating the right things and it's causing changes to their blood sugar, which then can affect your hormones, which can affect your thyroid. It's all very interconnected. So
• 14:19
  One of the surprising things is how interconnected all of these different panels are. You know, your lipids are tied to your blood sugar or tied to your hormones. And when we just change little things, we change what we're eating. So we're eating less excess sugars and less starched carbohydrates and going more toward a Mediterranean diet or more of a paleo type of diet.
• 14:42
  patients see a huge change in their body composition because their blood sugar is under control. Their pancreas is not putting out more insulin to keep up with those blood sugar spikes. And that's affecting their thyroid, which increases metabolism and increases their energy. So all of their panels are very interconnected and they start seeing that whenever somebody who's trained to read labs, interpret labs, and then come up with tree recommendations gives that to them.
• 15:11
  So we see a lot of consistencies with, you know, high blood sugar and, you know, lipids that are all over the cholesterol that's through the roof, hormones that are in the dumps. So it's it's all very interconnected. And in the blood sugar, you made a mention about the, you know, eating sugar, but there's other things that you can eat that you don't even realize raise the sugars.
• 15:36
  So somebody's listening to this going, I never eat sugar. What are some of the things, foods that everyday foods that you, like I'm thinking of fruit right off the bat, there's sugar and fruit. So what are some of the common things that people can do that would raise their sugar levels unknowingly?
• 15:53
  Yep. So fruit is, you know, everything is very patient specific. So if you're a pre-diabetic or diabetic, you know, you should eat fruit in moderation. But fruit has a lot of really good nutrients. It has a lot of fiber. It has a lot of things that our body uses for energy. Starchy carbohydrates is one thing that a lot of people overlook. You know, your breads, your pastas, your rice, potatoes, all of those are okay in moderation, but you
• 16:22
  The more that we eat those, the more our blood sugar spikes, the more our pancreas pumps out insulin, and the more insulin resistant we can become. I'm not saying that starchy carbohydrates, you should stay away from them completely. They do help us with energy and fueling our workouts.
• 16:37
  Switching from a high-carbohydrate diet to a high-protein, low-carbohydrate diet, we usually see a good change in terms of blood sugar, cholesterol, and body composition. People just feel a little bit better. Their gut feels a little bit better. But it's very patient-specific.
• 16:56
  If you've listened to this for any length of time, I have the worst sweet tooth. I don't drink alcohol, and I used to, and I used to get a lot of sugar from that. So now when I get tired or stressed, I have a sweet tooth. And instead of grabbing, I'm a Jolly Rancher fiend, I will grab grapes, and it's a great alternative. And I get that sugar.
• 17:19
  Rush that I need or that I want. I don't need it. So this little tip to the people we, you talked about it, carbohydrates, you talked about the paleo, you talked about, there's all these myths and fads. What's the biggest myth about hormone health? You wish you could erase overnight.
• 17:37
  Hormone replacement therapy causes cancer or is super detrimental to your health. I think that is a very destructive myth that is keeping a lot of people from feeling their best and from living an energetic and happy life. Menopause specifically is something that is super understudied and underestimated in terms of like how women should feel.
• 18:04
  And conventional medicine is just not equipped to help women in perimenopause and menopause. And because the education isn't there, they're kind of scared to diagnose it. They're scared to treat it because they don't want to mistreat and give...
• 18:22
  give someone something that's going to eventually hurt them. So the school of thought and the education is catching up. And I think more and more companies are going to start with menopause care, hormone replacement therapy. There's a lot of studies that are coming out to show the benefits of hormone replacement therapy with men and with women. So that's a big one that I think is going to flip on its head pretty soon.
• 18:47
  I'd never heard that before. I'm not typical. I filter out that because it sounds like a victim to me. If anybody says to me, I don't want to do that. I don't like people that are afraid of work, afraid of hard. That's why the name of the podcast is Harder Than Life. Life's going to be hard. You got to be harder. You got to lean into it. And it just sounds like a bunch of excuses. I mean,
• 19:12
  Yeah, I was just going to say that you have to kind of understand that the patients that come to us, the typical patient that comes to me is very disillusioned with the conventional medicine route. So they're coming from a doctor who...
• 19:27
  ask them about what they're experiencing. They tell them their symptoms. They tell them what they're going through. And then they just kind of send them on their way. They say, your, your levels are where they need to be. There's nothing that we can really do for you here. And they just send them to someone else and they eventually come to me. So I'm, I'm usually working with patients who have been told that they're crazy, not directly, but like, Hey, your levels are where they're supposed to be in, in terms of standard ranges.
• 19:52
  And there's nothing I can do for you. So they come to us, you know, pretty defeated. And that's the kind of person that I deal with. And that's the kind of person who thinks that hormone replacement therapy is not for that. You would think that by now with social media, with RFK making America healthy again, with all the available information that the conventional medical system would partner with.
• 20:21
  with companies such as yours and just say, hey, this is normal, but you've got symptoms that I want to acknowledge. So let's send you over here and go get the comprehensive. We're at that time and I'll bet you we're not far off from that anymore.
• 20:36
  I get there with stone now and hit a longevity health clinic or hormone replacement. And I remember when I first started taking it, we had to hide it. Like, oh my God, he's taking testosterone. He's taking steroids. And now it's like...
• 20:53
  Everybody is, you know, with, and I call it the Ozempic effect, Adam. Everybody, you know, nobody wanted to be, nobody cared, my body, I'm good until you could take a pill or take a shot and get thin. You know, it was all sexy to be...
• 21:10
  plus size until you could take a shot and then boom and now everybody wants to be thin which in of itself is a whole dirt it it's really going to have some effects i remember back in the day remember when and i think it was the 80s i don't know if you were born yet when fen fen and people were having heart attacks like let's be very careful big pharma
• 21:34
  is in this for a reason. They're here to make money. Let's hammer into these, a comprehensive panel versus a standard annual physical. I literally just did this. And I got some markers and then I went to
• 21:51
  Someone such as you, which we're bringing on, we're going to have, I'm going to bring on more and more of these guys. So if, if, if Joy and Blokes isn't what you, what you want, we'll have other options. But this one is very unique because it's available in all 50 states, which we are rapidly growing. And I want everybody to be healthy. It is very unique. It's very unique.
• 22:12
  You're the only company that I know of that is available in all 50 states. So that's why I love about it. So I wanted to have you on the show. So again, I pay everything for it. So let's talk about again, besides free testosterone, what other metrics will a comprehensive panel from your organization reveal that your normal MD giving you a standard annual physical never will?
• 22:39
  Yeah, we look at a lot. We look at a lot in terms of inflammation. We're going to look at your sedimentation rate, your C-reactive protein, your A&A directs. We're looking at autoimmune disorders. We do a really deep dive into thyroid health.
• 22:55
  So most conventional doctors, primary care physicians, they're testing your TSH, which is your thyroid stimulating hormone. Very important biomarker, but there's a lot left to be desired in terms of your thyroid to determine how healthy you are. So your T3, your T4, your thyroglobulin, which are antibodies. So there's a lot of things that we look at that your typical primary care physician or your endocrinologist is not looking at typically.
• 23:24
  We look at prolactin, B12, homocysteine, all of your electrolytes. We're taking a deep dive into metabolic markers like your APOB, all of your lipids, so your LDL, your triglycerides, your HDL, your amylase, your lipase.
• 23:54
  It's just a more in-depth look at things that actually matter, the foundational biomarkers that affect our day-to-day lives and how we feel. So hormone panels are important, but there's a lot of other ones that affect your hormones that we need to take a look at as well.
• 24:10
  Adam, do you test fecal? We do. We are partnering with, this is actually not public knowledge yet, but we're partnering with a company who's doing gut health testing. That will be coming out probably in about a month, month and a half. So we are trying to put all the pieces together and be even more holistic than we are now.
• 24:33
  We're also bringing in a fertility piece. Fertility is something that I think a lot of people are struggling with just based on in our environment, what we're putting in our bodies. It's affecting our fertility. So we're bringing in that in the next couple of months as well. That's outstanding. We have a large following of youngsters, 15 to 25. How young is too young to start looking at this stuff?
• 25:00
  you can start looking at your biomarkers as soon as possible. You know, we, we do only treat 18 and older, but getting blood work done and taking a look at your levels, you can, you can start, you know, and your teens in terms of,
• 25:17
  peptides, I would be a little bit more careful there in terms of what you're doing to your body when it's still developing. Wouldn't go the hormone replacement route until my, you know, my hormones were actually depleted. But, you know, I don't like talking in absolutes because there are certain peptides that can really help with people who have hormone deficiencies or, you know, growth hormone deficiencies, you know, things like samoralin, intestinalin, all those can help your bones and your muscles grow. Yeah.
• 25:47
  It just depends. But looking at your labs, I would start at any point getting an idea of like what's going on in your body, what what nutrient deficiencies you have, because a lot of it you can do just by food and diet, you know, the sooner the better, in my opinion.
• 26:04
  Adam, how does it work? Do they, I mean, you're going to give us all the links. Do they just click on a link and schedule a telehealth with everybody and then they get the blood? Did you send a nurse to the house? Walk me through it and then take it a step further and say when they get the blood back and they start following it, what are they going to see? What change have you seen in the first 90 days?
• 26:29
  When you come to us, we would typically get your blood drawn. So you would buy a specific lab from us. We have three different levels. We have a complete hormone panel, an advanced panel, and a comprehensive. So you would buy one of those panels. You would either go into a lab, one that we're associated with, typically a quest diagnostic lab. They're all over the place.
• 26:52
  Go in, put your blood drawn, and then you receive the results back. We get those results as soon as you do, and then we get you scheduled with a clinician to walk through those. We do have initial consultations where you don't buy a lab. You just kind of talk to someone like myself, and you get a rundown of how we operate and what to expect. It usually starts with a diagnostic lab, a lab review with a clinician, and then a treatment plan that you basically decide, hey...
• 27:19
  These are the recommendations you gave me. Now I'm going to make a decision on these treatments and what to go with. So very transparent in terms of the costs on our website. You pay for the lab and then you pay for whatever you want to start with treatment wise.
• 27:34
  Nice. Nice. You make it easy and it's available in all 50 states. Guys, get out and do this. Guys, girls, everybody, this is great. I can tell you I have searched when I first started at 38, 39, whatever the heck it was, there was like one or two places and it was secretive and you had to freaking have a secret knock, a secret handshake and somebody had to know somebody and...
• 27:56
  You guys are doing a great thing. I want to spend a little more time on you because you're the typical harder than life nation guy, you know? So let's talk about, so people can identify with you. You grew up in California. You grew up in Oklahoma. Oh, Oklahoma. Then you went to California. But what I have here is you went from the runway to private banking to health coaching. What was really driving all these turns? Yeah.
• 28:24
  Yep. So I actually started in banking. That was kind of my first major career move or job out of college. I lived in Nashville right after graduating from the University of Arkansas. I got my MBA at a small Christian school here called Lipscomb in Nashville and went straight into banking. So I was in commercial banking for about six years before I had kind of a change of heart and wanted to go down the acting and modeling route.
• 28:50
  I felt like I wanted to do things outside of my comfort zone, and I got to a point to where I just wanted to pursue something that really interested me. And acting at that time was something that really was always on my mind and something I wanted to do. Yeah.
• 29:05
  I went to an open call at an agency here in Nashville, and they signed me pretty much the next day. And then I landed a Toyota commercial the next week. So it started rapidly developing, even to a point to where I was, how am I really going to do this? So I quit my banking job, moved to Dallas actually first, and started doing some acting modeling down there.
• 29:31
  moved to Chicago a year after that, and then LA a year after that. So I was just kind of following this, this intuitive, you know, pull to pursue acting and modeling and modeling kind of took off a little bit quicker than acting, acting, acting was not as, uh, not as easy for me, but
• 29:49
  That's what took me to California. And then California, you know, dog in terms of modeling and acting. And I decided to get back into sales, landed a sales director role at a high-end fashion company out in California, was there for about five and a half years.
• 30:05
  Where did you find all the courage to keep reinventing yourself? That's the story we should have been talking about instead of all this. Did it happen mid finding the hormones or did you just constantly be like, just do the uncomfortable? That's a wild story, Adam.
• 30:20
  You know, it's something that I'm still working on, you know, figuring out who I want to be in this world. And something that I developed really early on was having this vision of the type of person that I want to be. And this is still something that I work on every day.
• 30:38
  you know, someone I admire, I'll put them, you know, Arnold Schwarzenegger, somebody that you, you draw a lot of inspiration on, you know, they, they had these, uh, you know, wristbands I grew up when I grew up called, what would Jesus do? And I'm sure you probably heard of it, but you know, I would think, what would this person that I admire do? And I'll kind of base my, my little micro decisions throughout the day on what they would do. Like what,
• 31:03
  would they be sitting here watching TV or they out be out doing something else to better themselves? So I've just always been really good at pitting and, you know, feeling a little bit stuck and and changing direction is something I've been good at. At the same time, you know, I've had to really work on aligning myself with my values and really getting clear on my values so that everything does come into alignment.
• 31:30
  In this point in my life, I'm really focused on serving others and bringing life into other people, figuring out your values, putting them down on paper, and then not letting anything come in the way of that. And all of your decisions can be kind of filtered into your values that you have.
• 31:50
  You seem to come across as you trust yourself emphatically. You have to make all those changes, which comes across to us as being very grounded.
• 32:02
  So how do you stay grounded with so much of your personal life plays out in public? My faith. First of all, my faith. I'm in the Bible every single morning. I'm actually on day 355 of a 365 day. I'm basically reading the Bible and going through chronologically. And that to me, you know, in the past three years, I've really dove into my faith in a big way.
• 32:29
  But that keeps me grounded. All the values, all the teachings of Christ have really taken hold and they direct my life now. So that keeps me grounded first and foremost. But then my relationship with my wife and my health, all of those things are, you know, non-negotiables that I've worked into my morning routine and throughout my day to keep me as rounded as possible.
• 32:53
  Before I ask you to go deeper in that faith, do you have children? No children yet. No. Are you going to have children? God willing, yes. Yeah. So when that happens, it changes everything because I got a daughter and you think that you love something until you get...
• 33:13
  daughter. It's just the best thing in the world. But I recently I've been letting go, letting God and surrendering and getting into faith and having conversations with God, being comfortable sitting in my own shit and just allowing things to happen, just basically doing the unfamiliar. I'm a kind of a guy to go, go, go, go.
• 33:36
  So would you go a little deeper into your faith and what it means to you? Because there's a lot of people that have forgotten that there's got to be something that has created us. Is there looking out for us? Because you made a lot of moves and everything worked out. And the person listening to this, you've made a lot of moves. You've done a lot of things and it's always worked out and everything is working out for you. But if you let go and let God and you surrender, the world will conspire to make you happy.
• 34:05
  What do you say to that? Letting go is one of the hardest things we can do as humans. We want control. We want to direct our own lives. We want to be sure about everything. And that lack of control and that lack of certainty can sometimes keep us stuck, keep us in familiar routines.
• 34:27
  can keep us playing small. And it's not easy. It's not easy to let go. It's not easy to tell people you're wrong, even. It's not easy to be uncertain. I'm 39 years old, and I still have a lot to learn. I still am seeking wisdom every single day and trying to learn from people who seem more aligned to me. And that's something that I really try to do is put myself in rooms with
• 34:55
  people who are just better than me in every aspect of life. But faith is something that is still somewhat of a mystery to me. I got baptized about three years ago and have really dove into my faith. And the more that I place importance on God and place the attention away from me and onto serving others, the better I feel. And the more aligned I feel and the more faith that comes from that. So
• 35:23
  It's still a learning process. Praying every day, gratitude every day, diving into the living word of God every single day has done more for me than anything. When will you be 40? I just turned 39 in May, so I've got to use it. You could enjoy it. That's right, I did. My 30s. Everything changes in your body at 40. Don't know what it is. Have you been able to receive...
• 35:48
  Receive in the sense of just like being capable of receiving gifts, receiving love. Receiving good things in your life. So when you surrender, let go and let God, you also, the second part of that is being able to receive all of the good things that are going to come your way. That was a struggle for me. That's why I want people to say, oh, I'm surrendering and nothing's happening.
• 36:12
  you have to also receive? That's a great question. It is something that I'm trying my best to do. I kind of mentioned before we started this podcast that we're doing renovations on our home and we're kind of like, okay, we need to move out of the house because they're doing renovations on pretty much the entire house. We both work from home and it'd be hectic living there. So we were trying to figure out where are we going to live? So we kind of put some feelers out there. We're debating living with my wife's,
• 36:39
  parents in Alabama, but we really wanted to stay in Nashville for at least a couple of months while the renovation kicked off, just because we want to make sure it's going according to plan. So we had something set up to where we're going to live in an apartment right down the street. We would, you know, kind of post and do a little bit of trade there, but that fell through. So we had been talking about this for the longest time and we had about a week to figure out where to stay. And
• 37:05
  We reached out to a couple of friends and you're like, hey, we had this plan to live somewhere. Now we need a backup plan. And we basically asked to stay with some of our friends and them being so giving, putting us up for a month, month and a half.
• 37:24
  It was hard to receive. And that kind of long-winded story brings me to being able to receive and become really good at giving. But receiving is still really tough for us. Just being gracious. Like if you are not receiving from someone else, you're kind of robbing them from their opportunity to give. So you're giving them the gift of giving by receiving and making that easy for them. So that's something that we're still learning, but something that's really important.
• 37:53
  Such a good answer. And I just went through it. And I'll give you guys a pro tip, at least from my life is you'll know you're good at receiving when you stop pushing so hard. Now understand this hard and leg nation. This does not mean there's a lot of people that aren't even pushing. So it doesn't mean you sit back and you're going to manifest the life of your dreams. You still have to take action, but you just progress and let go and let God and then allow it to happen to you.
• 38:21
  These are all rich people problems that we're talking about. But even if you're not, it's still you can be rich and not financially, but be a rich life. You've seen a lot of family men that don't make a lot of money, but they're rich beyond all recognition. And that's what we're talking about here. And there's a lot of you guys in the Heart and Life Nation. So I want to dig into specifically. You keep saying you're wanting to pay it forward and you're a servant. Yeah.
• 38:50
  Who are you specifically trying to reach with this work? And what do you want them to stop accepting? I want to reach anyone who is trying to become a better version of themselves.
• 39:04
  I want to reach anyone who doesn't feel their best and are getting the right answers from conventional medicine. I want them to stop accepting the status quo. I want them to stop accepting mediocrity because we're meant to live a big life and to feel our best. And in such an informational age, we have the access to information now in a way that we can have that. We can have it all. We can have a great family. We can have...
• 39:32
  a healthy body and a healthy mind, we can have the finances to support all that and we can have the faith to back it all up. So I don't think that we are limited in ways that we've kind of taught ourselves to be. I think we can have a very big life and do it all. You're in the right place because that's literally what I preach over and over and over again. The only thing to make your life take it from ordinary to extraordinary is doing a little extra.
• 40:00
  And when you put them together, it's an extraordinary life. I live an extraordinary life. I just met you and I can guarantee you live an extraordinary life. And it's just by doing just a little extra. And it's also by looking in the mirror and questioning status quo. You said we have information available.
• 40:16
  We've never been in a time where more solutions have been available. A year ago, you couldn't find a place to get to serve all 50 states. And yet here we are. And just wait. Guys, I'm telling you, if you listen to what Adam's talking about, what I'm preaching, you'll live into your hundreds. But you got to go and take action. And you have to freaking do something and create that extraordinary life.
• 40:45
  What is one daily habit that quietly does far more for your health than people expect? I just want, I want to really think about this one because that's a really good question. I'm not going to trump you because I got one that you're going to love. I just thought of it. Prayer. I think spending quiet time every morning praying to God, talking to God, listening, putting your desires out there, verbalizing your desires, is,
• 41:13
  really visualizing the type of life you want to live, visualizing the type of body you want to have and how you want to feel and how you want to affect people. Quiet time in the morning is something that is invaluable to me and something that I think can change your life.
• 41:30
  Stillness, silence, and solitude. I'm only having a conversation with God. And I wasn't a religious guy, but I have a relationship that's pretty strong with God. I was going to answer with gratitude walks, but they've been turning into much more than gratitude walks. And I call them faith walks. And ever since I've been doing them,
• 41:47
  I look around and the grass is greener. I notice different colors. And that's me doing the full receivership. Everything that we just talked about, I fully enact. I'm not ever going to sell you a promise. I'm always showing you guys the proof. That's literally what I am. So thank you for that answer. It's beautiful. Again.
• 42:09
  I'm going to hammer this point. If someone feels off, but keeps getting told that they are fine, what is the very first move you would tell them to make? Get your blood work done.
• 42:21
  figure out what is going on under the hood and go through your blood work with someone knowledgeable who understands where your level should be. That's the first thing because the information is very powerful. What's the low end blood level, blood panel work for you guys? Low end is 150, but we have discounts all the time for new patients. So right now we have a special for 65% off labs for new patients.
• 42:47
  The comprehensive one, the higher one. Comprehensive is $599. So it's $150, around $270 for the middle tier, and then $599 for the comprehensive. It's the best $599 you will ever spend, my friends. Invest in yourself. We buy a cup of coffee every single day. That's $5.
• 43:09
  That's 150 a month. I'm telling you, it's eye opening. I go through this. I do this. I practice what I preach. I'm 50 and in great shape. And I plan on living to 120, like I've said. And with today's advanced scientists, science and AI, they're totally going to be able to keep me healthy. If I can just slow down, that's another thing I'm doing, slowing down.
• 43:33
  to go faster. It's the wildest thing. Slowest moves, smoothest fast. Nice. 10 years from now, what do you want to be different about how people approach their health?
• 43:45
  In 10 years from now, we're going to become simpler. We're going to not overcomplicate things. And I think there's already kind of shift toward simpler ingredients for food. We're getting back to like, hey, if there's a ton of ingredients in food, probably not as healthy as it could be. So simpler ingredients, simpler ways to exercise going on longer walks and building community, I think, is simpler. Yeah.
• 44:12
  I think it will be more science back, but I think it'll be simpler in 10 years. It's June we're recording this. It's Men's Mental Health Month.
• 44:22
  It's just popped in my head. What I'd like to see is people take not only their physical fitness more serious, but their mental fitness, especially us men that grew up in tough times and were told to suck it up buttercup. I'm creating a community that we can lean on each other and say, I'm struggling today.
• 44:43
  Because I've struggled many days. And recently, as a matter of fact, March and April were brutal for me. Brutal. I went back and looked at my journals, and I'm surprised that I showed up and showed out.
• 44:55
  So I want to make it cool to be vulnerable and kind again and just tell the truth and just say that, man, I got you, bro. I've been there. I've been 39. Wait till you turn 40. 39, 40, 43, and 50 were major, major changes in my life. And it's going to continue because I'm growing. So we're in this together.
• 45:17
  I want to see everybody win. I am a firm believer that the world is good and most people are good. And I just want to see everybody be happier than life. And that's my mission in life. And I'm going to keep recording these and bringing beautiful people on like you to pay it forward.
• 45:37
  Is there anything I haven't asked you that you feel compelled to share? Just to touch on your last point, I firmly believe that vulnerability is something that we need to become better at. That's the way we attach to people. That's the way that we build camaraderie and that's the way that we shield up for each other. So that's something that I have really had to work on, especially in my relationship with my wife. At the beginning of our relationship, she didn't know where I stood ever because I was not vulnerable. I was not telling her how I felt.
• 46:06
  So I didn't have strong opinions about things because I wanted to be stoic and not show emotion. And that made it really hard for her to connect with me. And I saw that in every relationship of my life with some of my best friends. It's like they told me, you know, ever since I've known you, I haven't really known you. And that really hit me in my core because I never really opened up and told my friends or people close to me how I felt.
• 46:31
  So vulnerability has become kind of a buzzword. But so I second that. I think we need to be more vulnerable and really put ourself out there more. Beautiful. It's beautiful. Let's get into our rapid fire. We'll get out of here. This has been a blast. I'm not going to have to tell anybody to share this. Really wish we were in studio because then I could give you a big hug. I feel like we need one a little bit. We got so deep there, but I just love it.
• 46:55
  I want to make weird things, traditional weird things, not weird anymore. I kiss my freaking friends. I tell them I love them. And we're not here for a long time. And I just, I want to enjoy it. There's so many people that are struggling. And if they're listening to this for one hour and I make them feel a little bit better, I can give them one tip, help one person every day, hope we did our job. So please do.
• 47:19
  Share this with anybody, especially if you're seeing somebody a little bit overweight, maybe a little struggling, maybe they're in their head. Let's just get them out and get them, get their blood tested as Adam has suggested several times and let's pay it forward. So it's harder than life. It'll lead you to happier than life and healthier than life. So these are one word, one word to one sentence and there's no right or wrong. It's just for the audience to get to know our boy, Adam.
• 47:44
  Coffee or cold plunge first thing in the morning? Cold plunge. Yeah, coffee, I want to wait at least 90 minutes before I take my coffee. One supplement you never skip? Vitamin D. The most underrated health habit? Community. A book or resource that changed how you think? 10% Happier by Dan Harris. Good book. Let me throw a caveat. I don't usually do this. The book Conversations with God. Whew, blew my mind.
• 48:15
  Lift, run, or roll on the mats? Oh man, that's tough. If I had to choose roll on the mats, you didn't sound convincing. Foundationally lifting because it gives you more of a foundation to do those other things. But in terms of mental health and camaraderie, rolling on the mats has been one of the best things for me. One wellness trend that needs to disappear? That is hard because a lot of wellness trends are good for certain people.
• 48:43
  I'm trying to think of even examples that I could give. I think I'm stumped on this one. I would say a few things. Probably overtraining could be one. I was going to say ultramarathons, but, you know, those are good every now and then, I think. What do they say? Everything in moderation is good, including moderation. Anything extreme. But then there's the other stream of not doing anything. So one word for how you feel at your absolute best.
• 49:10
  alive. Aligned was the first word I thought of. And the second one was peace. Adam, this has been a blast. I think that a lot of people got a lot of good things. You see two alpha males connecting over a computer and I really enjoy and love what you're doing. So grateful you came on. And I want to remind everybody, you know, we're getting bigger and bigger guests. The show is growing. And I thank all of you for this. We're going to be one of the top podcasts in self improvement here very shortly. We already are, but we're going to be number one. Let me put it
• 49:40
  and I need your help. So share the show, pay it forward, and send this to somebody who probably needs to get the blood drawn and also wants to watch two dudes bond over the computer. And take care of yourself and take care of others. Be kind today, and as always, be heart of the life.
• 49:59
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