Latest / Early Edition with Ryan Bridge / Kelly Eckhold: Westpac Chief Economist on Australia's new federal budget
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- 0:00Speaker 1: Jim Chalmer's fifth budget across the ditch, seventy seven billion
- 0:03Speaker 1: dollars in net new taxes. Deficit stays by the way
- 0:06Speaker 1: until twenty thirty five.
- 0:08Speaker 2: This is the most important and ambitious budget in decades.
- 0:12Speaker 2: Important because the world is throwing a lot of us
- 0:15Speaker 2: and this budget is about helping Australia deal with those challenges.
- 0:19Speaker 2: And ambitious because we have so much going for us
- 0:23Speaker 2: and this budget is about Australia seizing those opportunities.
- 0:26Speaker 1: You're Rossie Batler's your work is five dollars a week
- 0:29Speaker 1: tax cut for you, negative gearing, capital gains, tax breaks
- 0:32Speaker 1: scaled back for your investors and property owners. Kelly, you're
- 0:36Speaker 1: Cold Westpac chief economist with US Line this morning. Kelly,
- 0:38Speaker 1: good morning, Good morning.
- 0:40Speaker 3: Your thoughts well, I mean, I think for the financial
- 0:44Speaker 3: markets this was a bit of a wash because probably
- 0:48Speaker 3: the amount of debt hitting the market is not very
- 0:50Speaker 3: much different than they expected. But it certainly is a
- 0:54Speaker 3: reasonably expansionary budget on net. And if I look at
- 0:58Speaker 3: what Lucy Ellis, my boss in Australia saying, is this
- 1:01Speaker 3: issue of a bit of a tailor two horizons there
- 1:04Speaker 3: where I mean at the starting point for that Aussie economy,
- 1:07Speaker 3: it's been doing well. That's why the RBA has been
- 1:09Speaker 3: tightening this year, so the government's seen a bit of
- 1:12Speaker 3: revenue from that, so that's good, But then they are
- 1:15Speaker 3: spending more money and all of the savings measures that
- 1:19Speaker 3: are designed to pay for all of this are backloaded
- 1:21Speaker 3: because it's going to take a week while before things
- 1:24Speaker 3: like capital gains taxes, etc. Start to add to the coffers.
- 1:28Speaker 3: So there's quite a lot of risky, particularly since most
- 1:31Speaker 3: of those initiatives have to go through legislation. And my
- 1:34Speaker 3: understanding is that some of those oppositions, some of those
- 1:37Speaker 3: other coalition parties, are not supporting some of these things,
- 1:41Speaker 3: So they might be spending a bit of money now,
- 1:43Speaker 3: but they might not get the savings later.
- 1:45Speaker 1: Plus you've got the thirty six billion I think they
- 1:48Speaker 1: want to cut from the disability insurance scheme. All these things,
- 1:51Speaker 1: as you say, are going to take time to happen
- 1:53Speaker 1: and are not even guaranteed to happen.
- 1:55Speaker 3: That was my point. Yeah, particularly on that the savings scheme.
- 1:59Speaker 3: I mean, I think it's their equivalent basic seed, and
- 2:01Speaker 3: know how challenging it is to start cutting that. The
- 2:04Speaker 3: other thing I'll say is that the assumptions, the economic
- 2:07Speaker 3: assumptions are here are quite a bit more rosy than
- 2:10Speaker 3: my colleagues in Australia have in terms of, for example,
- 2:13Speaker 3: where unemployment's going to peak, they say it's only going
- 2:15Speaker 3: to peak at four and a half percent. I would
- 2:17Speaker 3: have thought that's pretty fanciful in the current environment.
- 2:21Speaker 1: Kelly are called a book very quickly before you go property.
- 2:24Speaker 1: They are, you know, scaling back negative gearing that are
- 2:28Speaker 1: doing the tax changes to property investors, and yet the
- 2:32Speaker 1: Treasury's own estimates say it's going to result in fewer
- 2:35Speaker 1: houses being built there.
- 2:38Speaker 3: Yeah, well, I guess everybody's got a view when they
- 2:41Speaker 3: when they kind of like model these these things through.
- 2:45Speaker 3: I mean, obviously the increase it's as less positive environment
- 2:49Speaker 3: for investors, isn't it. So I think ordinarily you might
- 2:52Speaker 3: expect the be some supply implications of there.
- 2:55Speaker 1: Kelly are called Westpact. For more from early edition with
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