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Team-Based Best Ball With Richard & Boris Vagner of SBS Fantasy! · Fantasy NFL Today

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[SPEAKER_02]: All right, football fans.
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[SPEAKER_02]: Welcome back into another edition of fantasy NFL today brought to you by sports ethos.
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[SPEAKER_02]: My name is Anthony Quaranta.
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[SPEAKER_02]: And today we have two very special guests.
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[SPEAKER_02]: of the co-creators of SBS fantasy on chain best ball, Boris and Richard Wagner.
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[SPEAKER_02]: How's it going guys?
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[SPEAKER_03]: Going low, what's up, everybody?
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[SPEAKER_03]: Thank you for having us.
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[SPEAKER_03]: Appreciate it.
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[SPEAKER_03]: We are very excited to hop into a draft.
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[SPEAKER_03]: And for the people who are watching this and never seen and dropped their experience to share kind of the details will make different stuff like that.
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[SPEAKER_03]: But yeah, doing well.
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[SPEAKER_01]: doing well as well, you know, because I did that you have us here and, you know, we're, you know, stoked to be able to like dive deep into, you know, why we truly believe in our product and believe that on-chain, best ball is
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[SPEAKER_01]: is yes, I'm going to say it here, but it's just superior to regular basketball.
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[SPEAKER_01]: We do really believe in it and just excited to go to dive into it and draft with you.
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[SPEAKER_02]: Awesome.
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[SPEAKER_02]: Yeah, I'm certainly excited to hear about it.
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[SPEAKER_02]: Before we get into that, how did you guys get started in just playing basketball?
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[SPEAKER_02]: How were you introduced to it?
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[SPEAKER_02]: Did you start just with underdog and draft kings and all these platforms just kind of talked to me about that a little bit?
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[SPEAKER_03]: Yeah, I personally got in through Underdog, I would say, did, I don't know, the first year, maybe like maybe ten, and then, you know, I did knock it into the final surprise prize, but instantly hooked into it, you know, I think just the idea of a large field contest where you could win a bunch of money up top is pretty intriguing, I would say, compared to, you know, traditional, like, twelve-manry draft league.
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[SPEAKER_03]: And yeah, I think naturally, I mean, we're going into a layer, but like naturally seeing how dope that was we wanted to do it ourselves.
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[SPEAKER_03]: I think I got Boris into underdog as well.
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[SPEAKER_03]: I'm not mistaken.
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[SPEAKER_01]: I mean, it's so crazy, man.
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[SPEAKER_01]: It's just how everything works in the world, right?
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[SPEAKER_01]: Like literally everything.
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[SPEAKER_01]: It's like,
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[SPEAKER_01]: You know, I've been playing fantasy football, my entire, like, twenty plus years, you know, done redrapped undied and see, you know, every single type you can name, right?
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[SPEAKER_01]: And as best ball was was getting the thing as best ball has been around for a long time.
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[SPEAKER_01]: But like as it has it's been getting a lot more attention.
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[SPEAKER_01]: as of recently, you know, everybody's, oh, you go play a best ball ball ball ball, but I'm like, bro, like, why am I like, like, I love to do the lineups.
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[SPEAKER_01]: I'm fucked that and everybody's like, everybody keeps saying that and I'm like, it took me a while to like, just give in and then once I gave in, I'm like, oh, my God, like, how?
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[SPEAKER_01]: This is like, makes so much sense.
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[SPEAKER_01]: You know, like the, you don't have to set lineups.
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[SPEAKER_01]: You don't have to do the trades.
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[SPEAKER_01]: Like you can do as many drafts as you want.
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[SPEAKER_01]: The price pulls are a much bigger.
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[SPEAKER_01]: Like it just makes so much sense of how fantasy football.
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[SPEAKER_01]: Like that's why it's the fastest growing format right now.
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[SPEAKER_01]: And like why it makes sense for even more people to get, um, unboarded on so fat and into fantasy football.
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[SPEAKER_01]: You know, so
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[SPEAKER_03]: And I don't think I, I mean, I'm sure a bunch, mostly everyone we're here watching this plays the best, well, not like I have to convince anyone.
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[SPEAKER_03]: But I think like, you know, in terms of like player takes and stuff like that, it's a little more kind of defined like, you know, for with redraft, there's like a line-ups, you can mess something up.
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[SPEAKER_03]: This is my job player takes.
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[SPEAKER_03]: You can actually see it through without you getting your own away.
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[SPEAKER_02]: Yeah, no.
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[SPEAKER_02]: And that's something that also drew me to best possible.
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[SPEAKER_02]: So this is my third year playing.
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[SPEAKER_02]: I started on underdog.
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[SPEAKER_02]: I kind of just felt victim of that, you know, the free marketing where people will post their teams on Twitter or whatever.
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[SPEAKER_02]: I'm like, that looks interesting.
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[SPEAKER_02]: Like I want to see what that's about.
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[SPEAKER_02]: And I drafted my first team, and of course, it wasn't very good.
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[SPEAKER_02]: And then, like, a hundred and seventy-something teams later, ended up finishing in like seventh place in one of the puppy tournaments, which was very cool.
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[SPEAKER_02]: So, and of course, I was, I was immediately, thank you.
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[SPEAKER_02]: I was immediately kind of drawn back in for last year, where I had second in the Superflex Golden, which was a single entry.
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[SPEAKER_02]: And so, like, I'm like, I'm hooked.
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[SPEAKER_03]: That's tough, too.
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[SPEAKER_03]: That's really special to do.
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[SPEAKER_02]: Yeah, I'm pretty proud of that one, but yeah, we play a losing game, so I'm sure this year is going to come back to bite me, right?
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[SPEAKER_03]: Oh, you meant the right this year?
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[SPEAKER_02]: Yeah, this year.
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[SPEAKER_02]: Yeah, I probably owe I owe underdogs from right this year.
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[SPEAKER_02]: Okay, so how did you guys first think of the, I guess the SPS concept?
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[SPEAKER_03]: Yeah, yeah, I've got it worse.
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[SPEAKER_03]: Right, go ahead.
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[SPEAKER_03]: You want to go?
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[SPEAKER_03]: Yeah, sure.
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[SPEAKER_03]: I'll try to give it a go.
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[SPEAKER_03]: So originally, you know, we got into the NFT space through board apes.
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[SPEAKER_03]: I don't know if people watch this.
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[SPEAKER_03]: No, it's like, um, I would say one of the biggest of not the biggest NFT communities out there.
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[SPEAKER_03]: And, um, you know, naturally us being huge in a fantasy football, we're like, how do we bridge these two together?
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[SPEAKER_03]: So the first product we actually ever came out with was like a dynasty product.
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[SPEAKER_03]: So that's so interesting.
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[SPEAKER_03]: Yeah, that was a cool thing, but the problem is, you know, with more that we didn't make it to where you had to re-up every year.
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[SPEAKER_03]: But, you know, it became really big.
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[SPEAKER_03]: We had millions of dollars for prizes, gave away some board-aves our worth like five hundred K at the time for first place.
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[SPEAKER_03]: It did really well, but of course, came to kind of a closure.
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[SPEAKER_03]: I mean, it's still going on, but came to a smaller thing because people weren't rebuying every single year.
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[SPEAKER_03]: And so, and have thought, hey, how do we create a contest where, you know, it's yearly where people have to buy in.
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[SPEAKER_03]: But also, we're big into Bestball.
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[SPEAKER_03]: How do we bring that in?
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[SPEAKER_03]: And so we created Banana Bestball the first year.
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[SPEAKER_03]: I we actually launched with, what was it two weeks?
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[SPEAKER_03]: How long do people have to drop worse?
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[SPEAKER_01]: So the thing, I think it was, yeah, I think it was just was out for like the first couple first, first two weeks and it was like in season and something like that.
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[SPEAKER_03]: Yeah, I think we launched it in season.
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[SPEAKER_03]: There was a couple weeks of draft, you know, did pretty well.
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[SPEAKER_03]: And then last year we launched a year two, it grew like five X, what we did the first year.
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[SPEAKER_03]: And then this is our first officially year where there's kind of a whole off season, a draft couple months to where, you know, there's player movement and you could see a lot of them happening.
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[SPEAKER_01]: Yeah, it's just crazy because like last year we did five hundred drafts, right?
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[SPEAKER_01]: And again, compared to what, you know, underdog and draft kings, you know, they do five hundred drafts and like a day, you know, they have millions.
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[SPEAKER_02]: Yeah, no, that I think that's huge for something that first of all kind of just coming from nothing and second, that is such a totally different concept like that.
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[SPEAKER_02]: I think that's impressive.
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[SPEAKER_01]: Thank you so much.
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[SPEAKER_01]: Yeah, so we did five hundred last year, and then like this year already, like we've done over six hundred drafts, you know, like most women draft, you know, like, which, like this year, our goal, like this is the thing, this year our goals, like we need to get more basketball people to play.
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[SPEAKER_01]: because majority of people aren't like best fall natives that have been playing our game and they we've got it's funny like we got them to play and then they started liking it and they're like oh my god the best fall makes so much sense but we didn't bring in like best fall native people so this year we were like okay we need to bring in social login where web two users like they don't
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[SPEAKER_01]: You don't even know you're dealing with crypto.
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[SPEAKER_01]: You don't even need to have a wallet.
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[SPEAKER_01]: It creates one for you.
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[SPEAKER_01]: You don't even need to pay with crypto.
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[SPEAKER_01]: You know, you can use a debit card option as you did.
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[SPEAKER_01]: You know, yesterday, which, you know, which is super nice and allows.
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[SPEAKER_02]: That's by the way, seamless transactions.
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[SPEAKER_01]: Thank you so much.
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[SPEAKER_01]: Yeah, so it's just the perfect way to like finally bridge the two because I feel like it just makes the most sense.
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[SPEAKER_01]: So, you know, pivoting back to like what we were where I was saying right, so we had like five hundred drafts last year and this year we had over six hundred and we already hit, we just hit a hundred percent of the guarantee price pool.
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[SPEAKER_01]: So, you know, it's around a hundred K. And so as more mints and people keep buying, you know, keep growing and growing and growing.
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[SPEAKER_01]: So, you know,
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[SPEAKER_03]: not not to, you know, ram on on that question, but like, no, for sure.
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[SPEAKER_03]: Two of the biggest things, you know, because of course, we didn't want to just be like, hey, we're just going to be like, we had to come up with, okay, like, this is we're going to bridge, you know, on chain and NFTs with fantasy football, kind of, how are we going to do that?
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[SPEAKER_03]: How are we going to make it cool?
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[SPEAKER_03]: And, you know, as Boris was saying, like,
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[SPEAKER_03]: that price pool, that's a hundred K now when we first released the guaranteed price, but it was only at sixty-nine K. So because the price pool is in eighth, as it goes up or down, it currently go in crazier right now.
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[SPEAKER_03]: So the price pool is almost two X from the moment we launched a contest.
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[SPEAKER_03]: And then the second biggest thing is that you can buy and sell teams, you know, if you go on open-seared marketplaces, you can actually
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[SPEAKER_03]: You have a good drive to sell your team, you make the finals, sell your team, don't make the finals by a dope team, have a sweat, NFTs and the blockchain kind of allow for that.
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[SPEAKER_02]: Yeah, I think that's really interesting that like if you like say you draft a team and it's you know started out hot, but you kind of see that it's you know it's it's the end is near you know you can kind of see trends halfway through the years often you see, um, not as confident as this team has been performing, maybe you can find someone to buy it and just
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[SPEAKER_02]: You know, realize that quickly immediately and not have to not have to worry about it.
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[SPEAKER_01]: Like it's very much.
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[SPEAKER_01]: It's traded.
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[SPEAKER_01]: Well, but the thing is everybody sees those news.
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[SPEAKER_01]: But I mean, even if you're in the finals and you're like the top ten at the end or whatever or top twenty and you're just like, dude, I rather just get this guaranteed money.
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[SPEAKER_01]: Like I don't want even though like we're all regions, we do want to sweat, but like maybe that money is nice enough.
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[SPEAKER_01]: By the way, I think it's echoing a little.
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[SPEAKER_02]: Okay.
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[SPEAKER_02]: Yeah, no, I appreciate that.
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[SPEAKER_01]: A lot.
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[SPEAKER_01]: So like, yeah, it's.
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[SPEAKER_01]: Was that you, Richard, you're saying?
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[SPEAKER_01]: No, it was okay.
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[SPEAKER_01]: Yeah, so like, you know, maybe you want the equity because, you know, someone is like, hey, I'll offer you this amount.
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[SPEAKER_01]: And just the fact that there's those options is just really why we believe like literally the blockchain.
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[SPEAKER_01]: Yes, a lot of people here, the blockchain, the Hill Crypto, they hear all that.
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[SPEAKER_01]: Oh my god, it's scary.
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[SPEAKER_01]: But like, thing is, is that like, we're kind of new to it too.
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[SPEAKER_01]: Like, we, we, we, we, we got unborded in, in, in, in, in, in, in, in, in, in, in, in, in, in, in, in, in, in, in, in, in, in, in, in, in, in, in, in, in, in, in, in, in, in, in, in, in, in, in, in, in, in, in, in, in, in, in, in, in, in, in, in, in, in, in, in, in, in, in,
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[SPEAKER_01]: There was like a tweet saying that like silicon silicon valley now and stuff like that they're going to start like tokenizing everything.
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[SPEAKER_01]: So I mean like it's it only makes sense to do this on every way because it just makes things easier and makes things better and makes things more efficient, right?
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[SPEAKER_01]: Like real estate for example, if you're able to tokenize it, it's just easier transactions.
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[SPEAKER_01]: You know, it just goes on and on and on, but like, yes, there are a lot of scammers and a lot of issues.
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[SPEAKER_01]: It gives it a bad rep, but we've always felt since, in twenty one that like fantasy football and the blockchain.
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[SPEAKER_01]: It's like, it's the perfect match man.
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[SPEAKER_01]: It's, you know, so.
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[SPEAKER_02]: Yeah.
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[SPEAKER_02]: No, I certainly agree.
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[SPEAKER_02]: Welcome into fantasy couch.
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[SPEAKER_02]: So I think he's bragging about a ten thousand place finish in one of your initial tournaments.
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[SPEAKER_02]: Let's go ahead.
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[SPEAKER_02]: Let's keep the conversation going.
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[SPEAKER_02]: Let's go ahead and pull up the platform.
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[SPEAKER_02]: I like this view a little bit better for now.
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[SPEAKER_02]: See if we can go ahead and get into a draft here.
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[SPEAKER_02]: I think it's a lesser perfect.
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[SPEAKER_02]: And then we can kind of just talk about like the differences.
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[SPEAKER_02]: We're only waiting for one more.
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[SPEAKER_02]: So very nice.
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[SPEAKER_02]: Oh, wow.
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[SPEAKER_02]: I did not even know that was, wow, sweet.
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[SPEAKER_02]: Yeah.
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[SPEAKER_02]: No, fantasy couch again.
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[SPEAKER_02]: Thanks for joining.
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[SPEAKER_02]: He indicated that there were about three more spots, which kind of prompted me.
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[SPEAKER_02]: Hey, let's let's go ahead and leave start the draft to your soon.
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[SPEAKER_02]: Just waiting for one more.
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[SPEAKER_02]: It is.
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[SPEAKER_02]: So let's get back to the train.
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[SPEAKER_02]: Very nice.
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[SPEAKER_02]: Thanks for feeling it so quickly.
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[SPEAKER_02]: Let's see.
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[SPEAKER_01]: Did we get the jackpot?
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[SPEAKER_01]: Ah, well, a fame?
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[SPEAKER_01]: Come, can we?
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[SPEAKER_01]: Yo, Dev, I told you to do it during the during this.
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[SPEAKER_01]: Did we get it?
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[SPEAKER_01]: And did we not?
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[SPEAKER_01]: I think we were.
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[SPEAKER_01]: Oh, we did it.
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[SPEAKER_01]: And we did it.
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[SPEAKER_01]: So it would have to go in the middle like jackpot jackpot jackpot jackpot.
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[SPEAKER_01]: And then this whole tired draft.
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[SPEAKER_01]: So right now it's black, right?
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[SPEAKER_01]: It would.
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[SPEAKER_01]: So if it's a jackpot, it would turn all red.
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[SPEAKER_01]: And then if it's a Hall of Fame, you would all turn gold.
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[SPEAKER_02]: So, okay, interesting.
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[SPEAKER_02]: And so what are the Hall of Fame drafts and what are the jackpot drafts?
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[SPEAKER_02]: There's we wait for the countdown and we have the seventh pick on the draft.
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[SPEAKER_01]: Nice.
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[SPEAKER_01]: Nice.
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[SPEAKER_01]: Go ahead Rich, you want to say?
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[SPEAKER_03]: Yeah.
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[SPEAKER_03]: So Hall of Fame is the more common one.
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[SPEAKER_03]: That lets you compete for more prizes alongside the main prize pool.
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[SPEAKER_03]: So yeah, you pretty much, if you win the Hall, if you win your Hall of Fame League, you get put in to the playoffs with all the Hall of Fame winners.
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[SPEAKER_03]: And then it's a week, fifteen to week, seventeen sprint with prizes up top.
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[SPEAKER_03]: And then the jackpot is definitely the more rare one.
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[SPEAKER_03]: The one people want
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[SPEAKER_03]: Um, more I would say because if you win your jackpolly, you automatically go to the finals, um, which is pretty OP I would say, you know, I've kind of like dream of a final sweat.
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[SPEAKER_03]: So, you know, having a leak where all you got to do is finish first out of ten people and you make it straight to the finals is pretty nice.
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[SPEAKER_02]: Yes.
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[SPEAKER_02]: Yeah, that's definitely appealing.
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[SPEAKER_01]: So let me, yeah, let's just, well, who are you thinking?
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[SPEAKER_01]: Who are we thinking of here?
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[SPEAKER_02]: So I think I'm definitely going to anchor RV.
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[SPEAKER_02]: I mean, I'm going to start with the running back.
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[SPEAKER_02]: I'm perfectly fine with either of these options.
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[SPEAKER_02]: We're going to take the Detroit running back one, which in my world is to mere gifts.
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[SPEAKER_02]: Here it is just the Detroit running back one.
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[SPEAKER_02]: And so what's, what's kind of the difference there?
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[SPEAKER_02]: From drafting to mere gifts, it's just drafting the positional RV one for Detroit.
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[SPEAKER_03]: Yeah, I think the biggest thing, you know, that is like injuries, you know, just completely destroying teams like if you're on UD and you draft your miracles and it goes down, uh, you're done.
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[SPEAKER_03]: Your pretty much done for the year, I would say losing your first home pick is pretty hard to come from, come back from, you know, I'm not sure.
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[SPEAKER_03]: Maybe it has been done, but
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[SPEAKER_03]: Chances are very low.
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[SPEAKER_03]: So the way it works here is you get the highest scoring player each week.
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[SPEAKER_03]: So if your merit gives goes down or he just has a bad game, a day of Montgomery goes off, you would get day of Montgomery's points.
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[SPEAKER_03]: Like yes, yeah.
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[SPEAKER_03]: If it gives scores like five points and Montgomery scores twenty, you get a day of Montgomery's twenty points for that week.
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[SPEAKER_03]: Also, if you drafted tread running back to, you would get the second highest scoring player that week.
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[SPEAKER_03]: So that example would be gives us five points.
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[SPEAKER_02]: Oh, that's really interesting.
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[SPEAKER_02]: So it's, I mean, regardless of who the top dog isn't of both are injured and, you know, they have, I think Seon Vaki somewhere on the roster.
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[SPEAKER_02]: And he comes out and has two touchdowns like, I get Seon Vaki.
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[SPEAKER_01]: That's the beauty about it.
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[SPEAKER_01]: Like, you get to enjoy the game.
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[SPEAKER_01]: You just want, you basically want one dude if you have the RB one.
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[SPEAKER_01]: If you want just so you know, though, in our drafts, why do receiver ones go crazy?
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[SPEAKER_01]: So like everybody's trying to, to get a lot of ones.
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[SPEAKER_01]: So like what's going to happen is that it might be a lot harder to get ones now coming back.
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[SPEAKER_01]: But listen, you can't, you can't hate those two picks.
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[SPEAKER_01]: Like I love to fit.
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[SPEAKER_02]: You know what I'm saying?
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[SPEAKER_01]: So and I might be overcompensating here because in the first drafts I did I went pretty wide receiver heavy I only did up with two running back ones and a couple twos so maybe overcompensating just trying to get to absolute absolute I don't think men and you know a lot of people in our this thing like people have done like hundreds of jobs right and like people are like okay, you know, they want it they try to get the four four's you know four wide receiver one four but the way I look at it me personally like I just want
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[SPEAKER_01]: If there's clearly tears and I love that specific tear right there of players, like I don't care if it's running back or wide receiver, you know what I mean?
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[SPEAKER_01]: Like I want to tear.
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[SPEAKER_01]: So, it makes sense.
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[SPEAKER_01]: And again, the more you do, the more you can kind of gauge, okay, when does this player usually go, you know, you get a hand, because you know, if you're doing a lot of underdog, you know, you're so used to the underdog, ADPs and stuff like that.
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[SPEAKER_02]: Right.
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[SPEAKER_02]: So this is certainly interesting.
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[SPEAKER_02]: Yeah, there's just looking at the board here.
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[SPEAKER_02]: A lot of white receivers.
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[SPEAKER_02]: One which is fairly common in underdog as well as you start three white receivers.
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[SPEAKER_02]: But I think here you just start two was that correct.
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[SPEAKER_03]: Yep.
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[SPEAKER_03]: You start two running backs to either she was in a flex spot.
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[SPEAKER_03]: Um, so could go be there.
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[SPEAKER_03]: Why did she go?
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[SPEAKER_03]: Could be your third running back depending who does better.
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[SPEAKER_02]: Yeah.
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[SPEAKER_02]: No, that makes sense.
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[SPEAKER_02]: So we'll probably have to look to try to add a white
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[SPEAKER_02]: He are coming up seeing as you're right.
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[SPEAKER_02]: They are.
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[SPEAKER_02]: They go, you're right.
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[SPEAKER_03]: You know, I'm not bored.
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[SPEAKER_03]: You know what I'm seeing?
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[SPEAKER_03]: Like, I never, I wonder why that is the case though, because there's more wide receiver twos that are viable than running back to's at the end of draft.
18:05
[SPEAKER_03]: And people are more inclined to take wide receiver twos than running back to's.
18:09
[SPEAKER_03]: So like, why is it, you know, that wide receivers are the first to go that fast.
18:14
[SPEAKER_03]: Maybe people are just like,
18:16
[SPEAKER_01]: Okay, who do you like here?
18:17
[SPEAKER_01]: Do you like here?
18:18
[SPEAKER_01]: Oh, and do you know what I'm going to do?
18:23
[SPEAKER_02]: I'm going to, I think I'm going to subscribe to what I believe Richard was just saying and look, why ever see her to you score more points than
18:32
[SPEAKER_02]: been running back to you.
18:33
[SPEAKER_02]: So let's just go ahead and get three absolute horses.
18:36
[SPEAKER_01]: Yeah, and honestly, I don't know.
18:38
[SPEAKER_01]: I don't even think you need another running back.
18:40
[SPEAKER_01]: You know, I'm, I probably not.
18:41
[SPEAKER_02]: It, I guess it depends on on the buys, but that's not something that really, let's see here.
18:47
[SPEAKER_02]: What do we, uh, uh, looks at, that's what happens when you don't look, man.
18:50
[SPEAKER_02]: It just, uh, got no, no buy week and undrums.
18:54
[SPEAKER_02]: So yeah, maybe we just go ahead and stack.
18:57
[SPEAKER_02]: other positions here and there's still I mean there's still plenty of wide receiver ones on the board obviously not as good as the the top dogs and like the top or I should say the top offense is really because you're not trafficking specific players but I like a lot of the options still for receivers here.
19:12
[SPEAKER_01]: No, I really liked that build personally.
19:15
[SPEAKER_01]: I think they're dependable running backs with highs.
19:21
[SPEAKER_01]: They're going to score a lot of points.
19:23
[SPEAKER_01]: So I don't really like it a lot personally.
19:28
[SPEAKER_03]: I do.
19:28
[SPEAKER_03]: I don't see you.
19:29
[SPEAKER_03]: I'm not looking at buys.
19:31
[SPEAKER_03]: It works so much.
19:31
[SPEAKER_03]: It's the best strategy.
19:34
[SPEAKER_03]: I'm a big proponent of that.
19:36
[SPEAKER_03]: The more you focus, the tougher it gets.
19:39
[SPEAKER_01]: This is what's crazy.
19:40
[SPEAKER_01]: Like the more drafts I do and I still haven't done that that many.
19:44
[SPEAKER_01]: Okay.
19:46
[SPEAKER_02]: That's go with.
19:49
[SPEAKER_02]: Man, thank you neither.
19:52
[SPEAKER_02]: You know what?
19:53
[SPEAKER_02]: Let's go with the San Francisco.
19:55
[SPEAKER_02]: They they've had the ability to produce some high-end wide receiver weeks.
20:00
[SPEAKER_02]: I agree.
20:00
[SPEAKER_00]: I like it.
20:01
[SPEAKER_02]: I like it.
20:03
[SPEAKER_02]: Plus, I'm a big Ricky.
20:04
[SPEAKER_02]: I'm a big Ricky Pierce offense, so if I can make sure I have a couple shares of him throughout the year here, I'm certainly going to go do that too.
20:14
[SPEAKER_03]: Yeah, and I think like that's what makes this so interesting too, it kind of, you know, there's this ambiguous backfields, ambiguous, wider shiver rooms, you know, to where like, you don't technically, there's many outlets to get there, you know, you're not just betting on one player.
20:31
[SPEAKER_03]: In the case of, you know, Brandon Auk could be something that he got way too much money to be nothing.
20:38
[SPEAKER_01]: He has the talent.
20:40
[SPEAKER_01]: We know he has the talent.
20:42
[SPEAKER_01]: Clearly he was still hobbled by injury last year and he was just not himself.
20:48
[SPEAKER_01]: I think he'll be back.
20:49
[SPEAKER_01]: I think he'll be fine.
20:51
[SPEAKER_02]: Yeah.
20:53
[SPEAKER_02]: I think I agree with you on that one.
20:55
[SPEAKER_02]: What's the kind of see how the board is shaking out after the big wide receiver?
21:01
[SPEAKER_02]: run.
21:02
[SPEAKER_02]: Still lots of receivers going just one non running back or that's crazy.
21:09
[SPEAKER_02]: That feels really interesting going into round five.
21:13
[SPEAKER_01]: Yeah.
21:14
[SPEAKER_01]: And then you got the first, you know, the first tight end that is going.
21:17
[SPEAKER_01]: That goes.
21:18
[SPEAKER_01]: Like to me, round four, bro, like I think even though has three kids, like he's done so many jobs.
21:24
[SPEAKER_01]: I don't understand why to go to get him in the fourth, like,
21:30
[SPEAKER_01]: I try long.
21:31
[SPEAKER_01]: Yeah, because I've seen him slide to five.
21:33
[SPEAKER_03]: Got him, my huge ADP value.
21:36
[SPEAKER_01]: Did he?
21:36
[SPEAKER_03]: Does he usually go three, like, like, twenty seven?
21:39
[SPEAKER_03]: Yeah.
21:40
[SPEAKER_01]: And he got him out.
21:40
[SPEAKER_01]: What?
21:42
[SPEAKER_03]: Hmm.
21:44
[SPEAKER_01]: In the forties.
21:45
[SPEAKER_01]: Yeah, maybe I could be, I can be tripping.
21:46
[SPEAKER_01]: I thought I've seen him in five, like, early five.
21:49
[SPEAKER_03]: Am I wrong?
21:49
[SPEAKER_03]: I could be wrong.
21:50
[SPEAKER_01]: I mean, if you looked at the ADP, then you'd probably, right?
21:53
[SPEAKER_03]: I don't think I'm all tripping.
21:57
[SPEAKER_02]: Yeah, I'm gonna have to go to nail a Y receiver one here because there's only three left.
22:03
[SPEAKER_02]: Oh boy.
22:06
[SPEAKER_01]: I mean, I like New England Y receiver one a lot personally.
22:09
[SPEAKER_01]: Like I do like that.
22:11
[SPEAKER_01]: I'm excited for me.
22:12
[SPEAKER_01]: I'm excited for that offense.
22:13
[SPEAKER_01]: I know they've been really atrocious as a recent, but let's do it.
22:18
[SPEAKER_01]: Let's fucking do it, man.
22:19
[SPEAKER_01]: What in them?
22:20
[SPEAKER_02]: I think the Patriots are so interesting because it's like they have
22:24
[SPEAKER_02]: They have Drake may, who is has a lot of potential.
22:27
[SPEAKER_02]: He was a third pick in the draft.
22:29
[SPEAKER_02]: I know that I know the giants and giants guy.
22:31
[SPEAKER_02]: They were interested in moving up to go get him.
22:35
[SPEAKER_02]: And I mean, the Patriots, like they just weren't going to budge no matter what, right?
22:38
[SPEAKER_02]: Like they were taking him the whole time.
22:41
[SPEAKER_02]: Um, but New England ever since Tom Brady lapses just kind of just doesn't feel good.
22:47
[SPEAKER_02]: And then just reuniting with Josh McDaniels again, who's often to really kind of faded out in Vegas when he was there, it just doesn't feel very good.
23:00
[SPEAKER_02]: So I'm getting like
23:04
[SPEAKER_02]: It's just so tough, I think, to trust them.
23:05
[SPEAKER_02]: But I do like Stefan Diggs.
23:08
[SPEAKER_02]: He was always kind of one of the best row runners in the league in his prime.
23:11
[SPEAKER_02]: The rookie Kai Williams, I think, is going to be really good too.
23:14
[SPEAKER_02]: So it'll be interesting to kind of see who we get from that spot on a week two weeks.
23:20
[SPEAKER_03]: Bob Douglas, I haven't given up on him fully, but it's good.
23:27
[SPEAKER_02]: Is this the point where you start to think about taking the Cincinnati wide receiver to over.
23:32
[SPEAKER_02]: Yeah, so in Vegas offense is I think.
23:36
[SPEAKER_01]: Yeah, I'm at.
23:38
[SPEAKER_01]: Honestly, we were talking about that in who's stream and I think we agreed with.
23:42
[SPEAKER_01]: I think.
23:43
[SPEAKER_01]: Since Natty White receiver two is pretty pre-sexy, man.
23:47
[SPEAKER_02]: It's like at a certain point, do you want a wide receiver one in a bad offense?
23:54
[SPEAKER_02]: Or do you want a wide receiver two in a really good offense?
23:56
[SPEAKER_02]: And when we talk about this with the traditional basketball, you're talking about specific players, but I think that's such a better conversation for this format because you are truly talking about the one in the two and not necessarily who you think is going to be the one who you think is going to be the two.
24:14
[SPEAKER_01]: Yeah, I mean it's tricky because usually the like the two like basically like my brother would say right like they both have to have good games for the second one.
24:25
[SPEAKER_01]: to do well for you to get those points and like it like it a lot has all right yeah more things so like it's hard to gauge that on most tools I would say but like we were seeing the averages of like of Higgins like Higgins was getting like fifteen plus points per game you know what I'm saying so like I would say
24:48
[SPEAKER_03]: I think overall for through the whole season, it's going to put you out of this advantage, but on a week, one week sample size, like week, seventeen, I think is what I was trying to, I came to conclusion.
25:03
[SPEAKER_03]: I would probably rather have Cincinnati, Y to Shiver, too, then, you know, L.V.
25:09
[SPEAKER_03]: Y to Shiver, even though I love Jacobi Myers, it's just
25:13
[SPEAKER_02]: It's not as y'all.
25:14
[SPEAKER_02]: Yeah, it's the environment because I agree with you.
25:16
[SPEAKER_02]: I mean, I'm a big fan of these old reminders.
25:19
[SPEAKER_02]: I think he's a really good football player.
25:21
[SPEAKER_02]: But I would rather have to hit against eleven at a ten times.
25:24
[SPEAKER_02]: Like when we're talking about fantasy and then in real life, but it's just, so yeah, and again, this platform really makes it such an interesting conversation.
25:33
[SPEAKER_02]: We are loaded at running back up top here.
25:36
[SPEAKER_02]: Still plenty of running back ones to.
25:40
[SPEAKER_01]: It just means they literally took all those wider receivers, man, when so early so fast.
25:47
[SPEAKER_02]: They did.
25:48
[SPEAKER_02]: I think that this is the spot where we're seeing a lot of like ambiguous running back rooms though, like especially now with Minnesota, you've heard that it's gonna be much more even split than was anticipated.
26:03
[SPEAKER_02]: And I am, I'm gonna listen a little funny here.
26:07
[SPEAKER_02]: I'm gonna stack the tray lions.
26:11
[SPEAKER_02]: I love the idea of James and Williams having big weeks along with Amin' Ron.
26:17
[SPEAKER_02]: I love the idea of getting Amin' Ron if he is, you know, of Dolphin's explodes and he's just a second best receiver.
26:24
[SPEAKER_01]: Exactly.
26:26
[SPEAKER_01]: Exactly.
26:27
[SPEAKER_02]: Yeah.
26:27
[SPEAKER_02]: I know we've got a pretty quick turnaround that we can.
26:29
[SPEAKER_02]: Let's check the quarterbacks.
26:32
[SPEAKER_02]: See where we are at.
26:35
[SPEAKER_02]: Okay, we might be able to push another round or so.
26:41
[SPEAKER_02]: What would you guys do here?
26:43
[SPEAKER_02]: As we've got a couple of picks left.
26:46
[SPEAKER_03]: I would either, I mean, it's to be boring answer, but we can't go beyond yet.
26:54
[SPEAKER_03]: I mean, I think probably, I mean, either, of course, grab her.
27:01
[SPEAKER_03]: I'm not sure if he's going to be there or grab another issue.
27:05
[SPEAKER_03]: I would probably still grab another running back because, you know, they could always get a bigger flame.
27:10
[SPEAKER_03]: Yeah.
27:12
[SPEAKER_02]: Yeah, right.
27:12
[SPEAKER_02]: And, and hey, you said it earlier, four RB ones can can be pretty tough to come by in some of these drafts.
27:19
[SPEAKER_02]: So maybe we just take the blessing in and run with.
27:22
[SPEAKER_02]: And I think we've got four pretty good wide receiver groups.
27:26
[SPEAKER_01]: Yeah, like looking at the team like I like it.
27:31
[SPEAKER_02]: Yeah, I think the top part as we talked about not looking at by weeks is I have my two wide receiver ones both have we fourteen buys.
27:38
[SPEAKER_04]: Yeah, that's tough.
27:39
[SPEAKER_02]: But I mean, I think we've got some elite wide receiver too.
27:44
[SPEAKER_02]: Early offensive, wide receiver toos.
27:48
[SPEAKER_02]: I'm going to go ahead and go with a running back room.
27:52
[SPEAKER_02]: I think I'm just going to go ahead and be a home or take the giants.
27:58
[SPEAKER_02]: I like the players.
28:02
[SPEAKER_02]: Maybe not the smartest pick there is Dallas isn't even more explosive offense.
28:05
[SPEAKER_02]: I probably will jacks himville, but I mean, I guess I just kind of be in a home or I'm going to take my guys if that's the tie breaker.
28:13
[SPEAKER_03]: I mean, I love Cam.
28:14
[SPEAKER_03]: I also, the, you know, the Cowboys got to play the Eagles week, Seventeen.
28:18
[SPEAKER_03]: So that's definitely going to be a top match up there.
28:22
[SPEAKER_02]: No, I think definitely week eight.
28:24
[SPEAKER_02]: No, I think that way we get team because Philly plays Buffalo week, Seventeen.
28:27
[SPEAKER_02]: I'm pretty power.
28:28
[SPEAKER_02]: So they're really pretty sure.
28:31
[SPEAKER_02]: Yeah.
28:34
[SPEAKER_03]: Yeah, you're right.
28:35
[SPEAKER_03]: Holy shit.
28:35
[SPEAKER_03]: Wait, who told me that some, we did a stream, we did a stream with someone and someone told us that.
28:41
[SPEAKER_03]: Well, what was it?
28:43
[SPEAKER_03]: If you play week a team, they can certainly work.
28:47
[SPEAKER_02]: Well, it's none of the season.
28:48
[SPEAKER_02]: My empire was about to end.
28:49
[SPEAKER_02]: We don't play that, but yeah, I believe.
28:53
[SPEAKER_02]: Yeah, fantasy couch.
28:54
[SPEAKER_02]: Thank you.
28:54
[SPEAKER_02]: It is Dallas, Washington week, Seventeen.
28:59
[SPEAKER_01]: What is this guy?
29:00
[SPEAKER_01]: No, he's just a couch.
29:03
[SPEAKER_02]: So do we play Wii Kteen here?
29:05
[SPEAKER_02]: I guess that's a great question.
29:06
[SPEAKER_02]: No, I probably probably for the better.
29:09
[SPEAKER_02]: Oh, definitely for the better, but Do you all have any thoughts of so right now you guys just have the one contest what is it called banana basketball?
29:20
[SPEAKER_02]: You're been in a basketball contest.
29:22
[SPEAKER_02]: Yep.
29:22
[SPEAKER_02]: Yep.
29:24
[SPEAKER_02]: What do you all think about potentially at some point adding like different tournaments with varying, almost like an underdog or draft kings with varying kind of price points?
29:37
[SPEAKER_01]: Yeah, I think that's like the next step.
29:39
[SPEAKER_01]: So like, you know, hopefully this does very, very well by the end of August, you know, we have we have talks, number one about investors, you know, investors and also, you know, if it's not investor, if it doesn't make sense from both sides, you know, us just growing it.
29:58
[SPEAKER_01]: Yeah, like first would be like getting it in season contests like we really want to get in season contests like really badly and then being able to just generate like do various types of contests different price points different types you know super flex one like you know all types just like underdog does of course
30:15
[SPEAKER_01]: Um, would be awesome.
30:17
[SPEAKER_01]: And then eventually just do other sports man.
30:19
[SPEAKER_01]: We want to get into every sport as well.
30:21
[SPEAKER_02]: So oh, so we talked like expanded like basketball and baseball and everything.
30:27
[SPEAKER_01]: We want to be all year round man.
30:29
[SPEAKER_01]: So.
30:32
[SPEAKER_02]: I decided to take my tight end here from Chicago.
30:38
[SPEAKER_02]: It's a bet on the upside of Colson level into end the season as it takes a little bit for rookie tight ends traditionally to kind of catch on.
30:48
[SPEAKER_02]: We'll also bet on Hulk Matt's a good football player and he was a top ten tight end.
30:55
[SPEAKER_02]: We're just in fields a couple of years ago.
30:56
[SPEAKER_02]: So I think that that's a really interesting pick there.
31:00
[SPEAKER_02]: And it kind of just feels like Titan is going to fall off a cliff pretty soon.
31:06
[SPEAKER_02]: So I just wanted to actually, I'll be right back.
31:09
[SPEAKER_02]: I need to take your time.
31:11
[SPEAKER_03]: So you think like, could you show the Titan list really quick?
31:16
[SPEAKER_03]: Yeah, for sure.
31:17
[SPEAKER_03]: So where, you know, what's your cliff cliff zone there?
31:21
[SPEAKER_03]: So
31:25
[SPEAKER_02]: I guess it's interesting because I'm totally out on the Miami tight end, but I like Buffalo Green Bay and Dallas.
31:33
[SPEAKER_02]: Yeah, the value there.
31:33
[SPEAKER_02]: And then at cost the same for Atlanta.
31:37
[SPEAKER_02]: But I am, oh, man, I just got sniped on chair and golf.
31:40
[SPEAKER_02]: I thought he'd get back.
31:42
[SPEAKER_02]: Let's just go ahead and be fun and take the jets quarterback.
31:49
[SPEAKER_02]: I like him.
31:51
[SPEAKER_02]: Let's go ahead and do that.
31:53
[SPEAKER_02]: What do you think about stacks in SPS?
31:58
[SPEAKER_02]: I'm a big stack guy.
32:00
[SPEAKER_02]: When it comes to underdog, but I don't know that it matters so much.
32:04
[SPEAKER_03]: Yeah.
32:05
[SPEAKER_03]: And pre-pre-pre-pre-pre-pre-pre-pre-pre-pre-pre-pre-pre-pre-pre-pre-pre-pre-pre-pre-pre-pre-pre-pre-pre-pre-pre-pre-pre-pre-pre-pre-pre-pre-pre-pre-pre-pre-pre-pre-pre-pre-pre-pre-pre-pre-pre-pre-pre-pre-pre-pre-pre-pre-pre-pre-pre-pre-pre-pre-pre-pre-pre-pre-pre-pre-pre-pre-pre-pre-pre-pre-pre-pre-pre-pre-pre-pre-pre-pre-pre-pre-pre-pre-pre-pre-pre-pre-pre-pre-pre-pre-pre-pre-pre-pre-pre-pre-pre-pre-pre-pre-pre-pre-pre-pre-pre-pre-pre-pre-pre
32:35
[SPEAKER_03]: I mean, I don't necessarily think you need it in a sense, but, you know, same reasons you wanted on the other platforms.
32:45
[SPEAKER_03]: You need the last things to go right to kind of do well if you are stacking.
32:50
[SPEAKER_02]: Yeah, and I think that makes a lot of sense.
32:53
[SPEAKER_02]: Again, I think the jury is still kind of out.
32:58
[SPEAKER_02]: So I guess you're more traditional best both formats.
33:03
[SPEAKER_02]: I think it's kind of been proven over the years as stacking is definitely a big benefit.
33:08
[SPEAKER_02]: But is that just kind of because how we've all been playing and everyone stacks when actually the stacking team is going to win?
33:18
[SPEAKER_02]: So like is it more beneficial now to not stack when the fuel is is got actually doing the opposite and then stacking everybody.
33:26
[SPEAKER_02]: So it's an interesting taking it.
33:28
[SPEAKER_02]: It'll be interesting to see how it plays out in in this platform.
33:34
[SPEAKER_02]: Yeah, I didn't get the San Francisco quarterback there.
33:39
[SPEAKER_02]: Uh, as well.
33:41
[SPEAKER_02]: That I can ban them.
33:43
[SPEAKER_02]: It.
33:44
[SPEAKER_02]: I know.
33:45
[SPEAKER_02]: Well, after who was that?
33:47
[SPEAKER_02]: Um, so key Johnson six.
33:49
[SPEAKER_02]: Talk your Johnson.
33:49
[SPEAKER_02]: You're done.
33:50
[SPEAKER_02]: I was about to last.
33:53
[SPEAKER_02]: been to have to get you out.
33:54
[SPEAKER_02]: So at what point do we sort of thinking about defenses here?
33:57
[SPEAKER_02]: And what made you guys think about adding defenses to best fall when so many folks talk about even getting rid of them for like your redraps and your, you know, your main hits, please.
34:09
[SPEAKER_03]: Yeah, I think, you know, and I'm surprised within that kickers as well could be, could be an add later in a sense.
34:17
[SPEAKER_03]: But I think, you know, because it's team positions and there's only a certain amount of them as opposed to a players.
34:26
[SPEAKER_03]: I think we kind of need defense to, you know, kind of
34:30
[SPEAKER_03]: first give more draft slots give more draft rounds despite you know create different teams and I do think I mean more than kickers I do think there is some strategy towards the defense it's not all it's all
34:46
[SPEAKER_03]: It does feel like it is locked, but you know, seeing what weak something match up they have, you know, the strategy of when, like you said, when do you drive to defense?
34:54
[SPEAKER_03]: Do you grab Philly or Denver at the top?
34:57
[SPEAKER_03]: Do you grab too late?
34:58
[SPEAKER_03]: Do you mix in one good one bad?
35:00
[SPEAKER_03]: Do you just grab one defense?
35:02
[SPEAKER_03]: You know, all these different things, I think there is EV, which everyone is correct in a sense, who the hell knows which one it is though?
35:10
[SPEAKER_02]: It's a matter of finding which one is correct, right?
35:14
[SPEAKER_02]: And how to best play the defenses?
35:16
[SPEAKER_02]: Because that's something that kind of throws me for a little bit of a little bit of a little bit.
35:21
[SPEAKER_02]: But to me, Picks, we have here left so I can probably work ties.
35:24
[SPEAKER_02]: We've got four picks here.
35:25
[SPEAKER_02]: So I'm probably done.
35:28
[SPEAKER_02]: I'm going to definitely down and running back.
35:29
[SPEAKER_02]: I might be able to squeeze in one more receiver, but we're going to have to look at a defense here soon and back up quarterback a second tight end.
35:41
[SPEAKER_02]: I'm going to go ahead and take because I took them in a soda, why to receive or two, I'm going to go ahead and take them in a soda.
35:46
[SPEAKER_02]: Love it.
35:47
[SPEAKER_02]: Love them.
35:49
[SPEAKER_02]: I love the Kevin O'Connell system.
35:51
[SPEAKER_01]: Oh, I do it.
35:53
[SPEAKER_01]: Is there, there's not that many systems that are better.
35:56
[SPEAKER_01]: Come on.
35:57
[SPEAKER_01]: You plug and play any single quarterback there throughout the last several years and it's just like you can make richer to go out there and look good.
36:08
[SPEAKER_02]: Yeah, I definitely like it.
36:11
[SPEAKER_02]: I mean, McCarthy's got a lot of promise.
36:13
[SPEAKER_02]: And I like Sam Howell, shouldn't anything happen to McCarthy.
36:16
[SPEAKER_02]: Sam Howell, it was a top ten quarterback just a few years ago when he was in Washington.
36:20
[SPEAKER_02]: So I like the upside of that position room as a whole.
36:24
[SPEAKER_02]: Some people, something you need to think about also, like with this position base, it's like, you also get the backup.
36:30
[SPEAKER_02]: So you also want to prioritize teams that maybe prioritize their TB to should something happen to the number one.
36:38
[SPEAKER_03]: like a mulling quills, you know, gone crazy there in Green Bay.
36:41
[SPEAKER_01]: Oh, literally, mulling, mulling was going nuts last year.
36:47
[SPEAKER_02]: He was so he wasn't good for, I think, ready for different layers, but, I mean, yeah, I mean, he got the job done and, I mean, that's what the packer was care about, right?
36:58
[SPEAKER_02]: They care about winning.
37:01
[SPEAKER_02]: I think this is probably the third we've got, what, three picks last.
37:06
[SPEAKER_02]: probably time to fit a good event, right?
37:11
[SPEAKER_03]: Yeah, I think like especially, you know, like there's a bunch of those quarterback groups that you don't even know who this started or like, you know, like Russell Wilson and Darleck where it's gonna be a switch off at some point.
37:25
[SPEAKER_03]: You know, we get the switch off, you get boats.
37:28
[SPEAKER_03]: I think I'm surprised more people aren't, you know, trying to draft those texts.
37:32
[SPEAKER_03]: It's a team position because mostly they go and draft it.
37:36
[SPEAKER_02]: Right, and so, and like, I mean, if you draft them, draft them with player based drafting like you, you've got to, you got to hold up to, I may go ahead and take a jet Steve.
37:45
[SPEAKER_02]: I think it's a pretty good one.
37:46
[SPEAKER_02]: Like, and just kind of ride and see, maybe we'll sneak in another one there, but, um, lost my train of thought now.
37:56
[SPEAKER_03]: Uh, you were the the quarterback rooms where you don't know.
38:01
[SPEAKER_02]: Oh, that's right.
38:02
[SPEAKER_02]: Like when you draft with like player-bage drafting, you have to waste two rosters on them.
38:07
[SPEAKER_02]: If you want to secure the room, but like the cult is probably a good one, right?
38:11
[SPEAKER_02]: With Anthony Richardson and Daniel Jones, you know, you need two rosters spots here.
38:15
[SPEAKER_02]: You get the whole baggage.
38:17
[SPEAKER_02]: All wrapped up in one little pick.
38:20
[SPEAKER_02]: So I think that that
38:21
[SPEAKER_01]: Yeah, yeah.
38:23
[SPEAKER_01]: I think, yeah, just the biggest thing for like specifically basketball contests, like you have teams that just literally like, once you have injuries, your team most likely are done, like for basketball contests, but with team positions, like you're still in the hunting.
38:39
[SPEAKER_01]: Yes, sometimes if there's like an injury that's like pretty brutal and, you know, like it was a high pick, like it's gonna be still, it's gonna be like still hard.
38:48
[SPEAKER_01]: for you to like you well, but at least you still have like, I feel like a higher chance.
38:53
[SPEAKER_02]: Yeah, it's not just like a dead roster spot, right?
38:58
[SPEAKER_02]: Exactly.
38:59
[SPEAKER_02]: You're still able to produce, you're going to go ahead.
39:01
[SPEAKER_02]: I like, I need a second tight end.
39:04
[SPEAKER_02]: And I like what they're doing down there in Jacksonville.
39:08
[SPEAKER_02]: Awesome, a big friend, strange fan who should likely be, well, you get the whole Titan room opposed to just like the Titan one, Titan two.
39:16
[SPEAKER_02]: So we can talk a little more player-based, I guess.
39:18
[SPEAKER_02]: We, with the Titans in quarterbacks, I really like, uh, brand-strings this season.
39:24
[SPEAKER_03]: same.
39:26
[SPEAKER_03]: I have not paid attention to Brian's train, honestly.
39:29
[SPEAKER_03]: Well, sell him, sell me on him, sell me on him.
39:32
[SPEAKER_02]: No.
39:33
[SPEAKER_02]: So he came on at the end of the last year when every name room was out.
39:36
[SPEAKER_02]: I don't have the exact stats in front of me, but believe he had like a ten target, a catch game where he was like a top five tight end.
39:45
[SPEAKER_02]: Generally speaking, takes tight ends a couple seasons.
39:48
[SPEAKER_02]: And I just like the volume cone offense.
39:50
[SPEAKER_02]: And there's just a lot of potential that on there in Jacksonville.
39:54
[SPEAKER_02]: So just big on him as a late round tight end, it could be a bust, but shouldn't really tell me regardless.
40:00
[SPEAKER_02]: His team player.
40:02
[SPEAKER_02]: Yeah, I'll use it.
40:03
[SPEAKER_02]: Just kind of a tight end.
40:05
[SPEAKER_02]: Well, would you all, so let's look, we've got a couple of pegs here.
40:07
[SPEAKER_02]: The last big.
40:10
[SPEAKER_02]: Yeah, build question.
40:11
[SPEAKER_02]: Would you guys go with the second defense or you trying to get maybe in a layer, you'd go the other defense?
40:19
[SPEAKER_03]: Yeah, I don't know more.
40:22
[SPEAKER_03]: I've probably got another dude and just more out.
40:23
[SPEAKER_03]: It's not only the covers of the Bible, but also just more out when you get to week, seventeen to uh, right.
40:29
[SPEAKER_01]: We got to make sure we got to make do you know the pie?
40:31
[SPEAKER_01]: Do you know the buy?
40:33
[SPEAKER_02]: Oh, get that that's important.
40:36
[SPEAKER_02]: We avoided it on the border backs and the tight ends.
40:39
[SPEAKER_02]: That's good.
40:40
[SPEAKER_02]: So not week nine.
40:41
[SPEAKER_02]: Yeah.
40:41
[SPEAKER_02]: It's a non week nine.
40:42
[SPEAKER_02]: Bye.
40:44
[SPEAKER_02]: uh... but we're getting the doldrums of the defenses here uh... i'm good uh... i don't want to keep you in a home or like i would the giants but i think they could be a sneaky good defense this year they loaded up they have their front seven is beyond talented i think they could have a lot of sacks do you all see a defense with a higher potential here no i think well uh... who's on the left like dollars a lot the downsteekings no
41:14
[SPEAKER_01]: Um, okay.
41:15
[SPEAKER_01]: I like giants.
41:18
[SPEAKER_02]: Well, some of you, I'm, well, I'm going to pick giants, but some of you on the Taoist events.
41:22
[SPEAKER_01]: No, no, no, no.
41:23
[SPEAKER_01]: Listen, this is the, this is the problem.
41:25
[SPEAKER_01]: Okay.
41:25
[SPEAKER_01]: I'm just going to be, I'm going to be quite frank with you because of SPS and stuff like that.
41:30
[SPEAKER_01]: I just don't have enough time this year.
41:33
[SPEAKER_01]: Like I don't have enough time to like research like what are the new moves that happen?
41:37
[SPEAKER_01]: Like I just don't I'm not competing right now in and best ball drive sadly like I just don't have so but in general I just I've just known Dallas right to have insane like games with crazy spikes where they get a lot of turnovers, you know what I'm saying like they have those type of spikes now give us the flip side of why we shouldn't take that I'm sure they did they lose a lot of players and I mean
42:02
[SPEAKER_02]: As a Giants fan, I just, it's a tough sell.
42:05
[SPEAKER_02]: I think their defense just kind of stinks outside of Micah Parsons.
42:09
[SPEAKER_01]: But yeah, who was, who was also saying he loves Giants and he was talking about their front seven as well.
42:14
[SPEAKER_01]: So if you both are saying, I mean, if, yes.
42:20
[SPEAKER_02]: I mean, so they've got Brian Burns, cave on Thibodeau.
42:23
[SPEAKER_02]: They just wrapped it up due a Carter and Dexter Lawrence plugin up the middle.
42:28
[SPEAKER_02]: I think it's going to be a fearsome for this season for New York.
42:31
[SPEAKER_02]: So let's go ahead and take a look at the team here.
42:33
[SPEAKER_02]: So tell me about like this is what the final card looks like and this is minted and stored somewhere.
42:40
[SPEAKER_02]: Like what is that?
42:43
[SPEAKER_01]: like if you go number one like yeah if you go to like open see for example right um that that's like the marketplace like that's what um i know you haven't been there but that's what you before that you you you all you own this team so this team is in your wallet i'm in your wallet yeah i'm assuming you you sign up with the social like a extra gmail that's none of my gmail account
43:06
[SPEAKER_03]: So pretty much I created a wallet for you.
43:09
[SPEAKER_03]: Now this team is in that wallet.
43:12
[SPEAKER_03]: And then as Boris was saying, if you go to OpenC, which is like the marketplace where you can buy and sell different NFTs, you know, connect your account.
43:22
[SPEAKER_03]: We can help you with that process, of course.
43:24
[SPEAKER_03]: And then you'll see this team there.
43:25
[SPEAKER_03]: And you know, it has all the options like list, you know, this team for a firm price.
43:30
[SPEAKER_03]: You know, you could see other teams.
43:32
[SPEAKER_03]: You could purchase them stuff like that.
43:34
[SPEAKER_03]: So yeah, you all you own the team pretty much now.
43:36
[SPEAKER_01]: And this is what's going to be.
43:38
[SPEAKER_01]: This is what's going to be really cool.
43:39
[SPEAKER_01]: So like right now, we don't have leaderboards, right?
43:41
[SPEAKER_01]: But like once the leaderboards come up on our site, you'll basically be able to like see how all these teams are doing and we have like weekly prizes and season long prizes.
43:50
[SPEAKER_01]: So like let's say there's teams that are doing very well and they've won a lot of weekly prizes, right?
43:55
[SPEAKER_01]: Like there's going to be like,
43:57
[SPEAKER_01]: money symbols like on cards that had they've that one money so anytime you win money like it gets attached to that team on our site so you're gonna be like okay whoa like there's some teams that are winning and doing well maybe I want to scout and buy this team because it's already doing well so like there's all these nuances on our site and in the marketplace is that you can like scouring stuff so
44:20
[SPEAKER_02]: Yeah, and I think it's great for new users that are coming on like like myself I suppose that maybe
44:29
[SPEAKER_02]: don't draft the best teams and I might be one of them like who who really knows.
44:34
[SPEAKER_02]: But like you was in earlier, like you want some swats and you know, you can buy good teams if that's something you want to do.
44:42
[SPEAKER_02]: So I think that's a really cool change and why I think that the blockchain is so interesting.
44:50
[SPEAKER_02]: because you can kind of do sort of things like that.
44:52
[SPEAKER_02]: So let's go ahead and take a look at this team and you all can tell me what your honest opinions about it.
44:58
[SPEAKER_02]: Both of you and anybody in the comments, we went with the jets and the Vikings quarter racks.
45:04
[SPEAKER_02]: I think both have some pretty high upside.
45:07
[SPEAKER_02]: Specifically talking to Justin Fields for the jet.
45:09
[SPEAKER_02]: I think we end up with Tyra Taylor at some point.
45:12
[SPEAKER_02]: Might end up, I like Tyra.
45:15
[SPEAKER_02]: I'm a big Tyra fan.
45:16
[SPEAKER_02]: But for fantasy football, that might end up being a debtorosterous spot of something happen to suggest some fields.
45:21
[SPEAKER_02]: But that's why I like insulating it with Minnesota, who I think the court reposition like we said is going to produce regardless.
45:29
[SPEAKER_02]: Now we went with four RB ones.
45:31
[SPEAKER_02]: We went three in a row with Detroit, Baltimore, and Indianapolis, three run heavy teams, three explosive running four explosive running backs.
45:40
[SPEAKER_02]: If you want to include David Montgomery, who will certainly
45:43
[SPEAKER_02]: probably hit my line up quite a few weeks.
45:47
[SPEAKER_02]: And then we went with the Giants RB one as well.
45:50
[SPEAKER_02]: An interesting duo, just to kind of tack on there for some extra depth.
45:54
[SPEAKER_02]: Why do receiver might be a little hairy as we point to you?
45:58
[SPEAKER_02]: Only two white receiver ones is Boris pointed out to me, you know, midway through the second round.
46:04
[SPEAKER_02]: After I made my second minute, I picked that.
46:06
[SPEAKER_02]: You man, you know, why receivers are really going to go?
46:08
[SPEAKER_02]: And maybe you should have picked one of those, but we ended up
46:12
[SPEAKER_01]: Yeah, I love it though.
46:14
[SPEAKER_01]: The more I'm looking at this card, like, I do like it.
46:17
[SPEAKER_01]: Do I in thing?
46:18
[SPEAKER_01]: Do I know what's going to weigh in and how?
46:20
[SPEAKER_01]: That's the whole point.
46:21
[SPEAKER_01]: That's why we play this.
46:21
[SPEAKER_01]: And that's why team positions is so new.
46:24
[SPEAKER_01]: And there's a lot of strategy, but like looking at them and looking at who you specifically drafted, like, I think it's a great team, man.
46:31
[SPEAKER_02]: In Thomas, I think Thomas agrees.
46:33
[SPEAKER_02]: I think, well, this is a whole maybe a little too heavy on the running max, but it was a very strong draft.
46:38
[SPEAKER_02]: Thank you, Thomas.
46:39
[SPEAKER_02]: I agree.
46:40
[SPEAKER_02]: I think that while, so I love this never just go offense.
46:44
[SPEAKER_02]: I talked about for wide receivers.
46:46
[SPEAKER_02]: We talked about it in New England, made you a little hairy, but there is certainly some upside for the wide receiver once there.
46:52
[SPEAKER_02]: I think what really nailed it as far as keeping this team competitive will going running back heavy.
46:59
[SPEAKER_02]: was getting the three wide receiver, too, is that I did?
47:01
[SPEAKER_02]: The one just have talented second wide receivers on their offense are explosive offenses and outside of Detroit are past first offenses.
47:15
[SPEAKER_02]: where I wouldn't be surprised if we see the Cincinnati Detroit and Minnesota wide receiver too's hit my line of more than the New England wide receiver one like that wouldn't shock me.
47:27
[SPEAKER_01]: Thomas, if he's listening, who just replied, he would hate that you said that.
47:31
[SPEAKER_01]: He's a huge Patriots fan, but
47:35
[SPEAKER_02]: I apologize, but that's just how it goes.
47:38
[SPEAKER_02]: And just how it goes sometimes.
47:39
[SPEAKER_02]: I'm a giant span.
47:40
[SPEAKER_02]: You can laugh at me too.
47:41
[SPEAKER_02]: We have unique neighbors, a couple of studs on defense and a lot of prayers.
47:49
[SPEAKER_01]: But I like it.
47:50
[SPEAKER_01]: I think, again, maybe it's too run heavy, RB heavy, but I mean, who's the, like, who's the same?
47:57
[SPEAKER_02]: I think that we're relying on starting three every week.
48:00
[SPEAKER_02]: And that's okay.
48:01
[SPEAKER_02]: As long as you hit the right three, you've win like that.
48:06
[SPEAKER_03]: I absolutely love it.
48:07
[SPEAKER_03]: I mean, that's what I'm saying.
48:09
[SPEAKER_03]: That's what you're supposed to do.
48:11
[SPEAKER_03]: And those why does she refuse that you grabbed our probably three of my favorite.
48:15
[SPEAKER_03]: I mean, maybe LA Rams is up there.
48:18
[SPEAKER_00]: Yeah, but
48:20
[SPEAKER_03]: And I probably would take all three of those above them, too.
48:24
[SPEAKER_03]: It's probably controversial to take, but I mean, yeah, I don't hate that take at all.
48:31
[SPEAKER_02]: I don't hate it.
48:32
[SPEAKER_02]: It's great for me.
48:33
[SPEAKER_02]: But somebody wants to come by this card off for me.
48:36
[SPEAKER_02]: Little son, three.
48:38
[SPEAKER_02]: They'll certainly give me something to think about now.
48:40
[SPEAKER_02]: But I might want to see how this one plays out.
48:42
[SPEAKER_02]: I think that the Titan room is
48:46
[SPEAKER_00]: Yes, that's the weakest one for sure.
48:50
[SPEAKER_02]: Yeah, but I think there's a lot of upside, but it can certainly, I mean, it could bottom out very easily.
48:57
[SPEAKER_02]: So that's not particularly great, but, and then, I mean, as far as the defense is like it is what it is, right?
49:03
[SPEAKER_02]: Like unless you're getting the top one, I think we're all kind of just like picking and hoping for the best, right?
49:08
[SPEAKER_02]: You kind of, you know, you can kind of see, think about it, who's got a good defense?
49:11
[SPEAKER_02]: You might have a good schedule, but by a large for me, I think that, just hoping for the best with.
49:18
[SPEAKER_02]: with defenses, and I like I'm looking at it now, so I didn't think about this while we were drafting.
49:24
[SPEAKER_02]: But sitting back here, looking at this card, I actually kind of like stacking the Jets quarterback, presuming it's Justin Fields here, right?
49:33
[SPEAKER_02]: With the Jets defense, because if they, you know, it could be a low scoring game in Justin Fields runs for a hundred and seventy-five yards and two touchdowns.
49:44
[SPEAKER_02]: Oh, and you know, the defense does great.
49:47
[SPEAKER_02]: Justin feels as if they don't care if they win the game.
49:50
[SPEAKER_02]: Oh, if they play some ugly low scoring games, like it tells me Justin feels going to run the ball a lot.
49:55
[SPEAKER_02]: Both of them can do really well at the same time.
49:58
[SPEAKER_02]: Yeah.
49:59
[SPEAKER_03]: Yeah.
50:00
[SPEAKER_03]: You know, with the defense as it does bring in a whole new kind of stacking thought, like you want to stack your running back, I mean, it's kind of the same theory you were saying with the Russian quarterback stacking your running back with the defense.
50:12
[SPEAKER_01]: Yeah.
50:13
[SPEAKER_01]: Who was saying that he was trying to stack with his running backs yesterday?
50:16
[SPEAKER_02]: Yeah, like if you've got like, like if you have a team with a good defense, like we'll just use Philly for an example, right?
50:22
[SPEAKER_02]: Um, they've got a good defense.
50:25
[SPEAKER_02]: Obviously we're taking a save on Barclay, but like it just makes it that much better because, you know, fourth quarter they're going to be winning most games.
50:33
[SPEAKER_02]: I think we can all presume that, right?
50:34
[SPEAKER_02]: Like they're they're really good football team.
50:36
[SPEAKER_01]: Especially against the chiefs right, Richard?
50:41
[SPEAKER_02]: Uh, are you?
50:42
[SPEAKER_02]: Easy.
50:43
[SPEAKER_02]: Easy to choose, yeah.
50:44
[SPEAKER_03]: I mean, I, I was rooting for this need to see.
50:46
[SPEAKER_02]: We're all like I'm alive.
50:47
[SPEAKER_02]: I was rooting for the chiefs as a Giants fan.
50:51
[SPEAKER_02]: Well, like I, that, that's a great sign because like I said in the fourth quarter, like the Eagles are going to be winning, meaning that like the defense is probably playing really well.
50:58
[SPEAKER_02]: And they're just going to run the ball.
51:00
[SPEAKER_02]: Exactly.
51:01
[SPEAKER_02]: Very, very quick on it or whoever the RB one is, they're just going to stat points.
51:05
[SPEAKER_03]: And by run the ball, you mean one carry for six yards on the touchdown.
51:11
[SPEAKER_02]: Yeah, every every drive one carry or he gets stopped at the one and then there he was there Jalen push Jalen push push push hurts.
51:23
[SPEAKER_02]: There you go.
51:25
[SPEAKER_02]: No Jalen hurts is a great quarterback.
51:26
[SPEAKER_02]: Please don't take that as me slander in him
51:28
[SPEAKER_03]: Well, we actually changed Jalen Hertz is actually fully running back one now.
51:35
[SPEAKER_03]: So I love it.
51:37
[SPEAKER_02]: I love it.
51:38
[SPEAKER_02]: I love it.
51:41
[SPEAKER_02]: He might be in some games.
51:43
[SPEAKER_02]: Or he scores a couple of touchdowns.
51:47
[SPEAKER_02]: This was great.
51:48
[SPEAKER_02]: This was a lot of fun.
51:48
[SPEAKER_02]: I think that's
51:50
[SPEAKER_02]: We ended up with a really good team.
51:52
[SPEAKER_02]: We're a little underrated team one that you've got to look at and appreciate a little bit to love, but that's okay.
52:01
[SPEAKER_02]: Every child is beautiful in their parents' eyes, right?
52:04
[SPEAKER_02]: And so I got much of how this beautiful in my eyes, and then you guys seem to like it too, right?
52:10
[SPEAKER_02]: we'll see we'll have to see I'm going to pay extra attention to this scene because it was on stream imagine if the big winner was on stream whether it's this one hopefully this one or another stream you guys go on wouldn't that be something
52:23
[SPEAKER_00]: I mean, no, we can happen.
52:25
[SPEAKER_00]: People are going to want to, hey, guys, you've got to come to our stream.
52:28
[SPEAKER_00]: You know, I'm saying what we're driving.
52:29
[SPEAKER_02]: You guys are going to be blown up next year, if that's the case.
52:33
[SPEAKER_02]: It invites left and right.
52:35
[SPEAKER_02]: Guys, this was a lot of fun.
52:37
[SPEAKER_02]: Any last words about, you know, yourselves where we can follow you, follow the platform, anything else you wanted to say about it before we wrap up?
52:47
[SPEAKER_01]: Uh, yeah.
52:48
[SPEAKER_01]: Um, again, we are, we have an on-chain basketball contest right now.
52:52
[SPEAKER_01]: That's live.
52:53
[SPEAKER_01]: It's live.
52:54
[SPEAKER_01]: Um, you know, up till September fourth, you can draft as many teams as you like.
52:58
[SPEAKER_01]: You know, everybody knows basketball here.
53:00
[SPEAKER_01]: Um, but we just hit our guarantee price full.
53:03
[SPEAKER_01]: Uh, it's around a hundred K.
53:05
[SPEAKER_01]: As of right now, so hopefully we can get it to two hundred three hundred k i mean the sky the sky is the limit you know there's no limit to how big this can get and and if it if you are new and you've never tried our product you know we'd we'd love to give you guys you know some free drafts to because you know we we do also have like new user promos but like you know
53:23
[SPEAKER_01]: What's the point of the new user problems if you've never tried our product?
53:25
[SPEAKER_01]: So, you know, we will definitely be down to give you guys some free drafts to try it.
53:30
[SPEAKER_01]: Because at the end of the day, like what's most interesting for us, especially this year, just being able to see, like, okay, here's people that
53:38
[SPEAKER_01]: love basketball, have been playing it for so many years.
53:41
[SPEAKER_01]: Like, what do you guys actually think about this product?
53:43
[SPEAKER_01]: You know what I mean?
53:44
[SPEAKER_01]: And seeing a lot of people actually really enjoying it and making them think, you know, a bit differently now with different strategies has been really cool to watch.
53:53
[SPEAKER_01]: So, you know, we appreciate you having us on the stream and means a lot of you're fucking amazing.
53:58
[SPEAKER_01]: I hope you win first place.
53:59
[SPEAKER_01]: Sorry, I wish you lost.
54:01
[SPEAKER_02]: I hope I do too.
54:02
[SPEAKER_02]: Thank you.
54:02
[SPEAKER_02]: That makes two of us.
54:04
[SPEAKER_02]: Richard, what about you anything anything you wanted to share?
54:07
[SPEAKER_03]: Yeah, just big shout out, you know, for having us on the stream, I had a blast, you know, any time you want to do another one, we're always down.
54:16
[SPEAKER_03]: And yeah, if anybody's watching this, you know, have any questions, please feel free to hit a stop, we'll answer anything.
54:23
[SPEAKER_03]: Again, you don't even need to be in the NFT or crypto side.
54:27
[SPEAKER_03]: You could literally make an account like with your extra Gmail.
54:30
[SPEAKER_03]: Pay with the debit card.
54:31
[SPEAKER_03]: Super easy, super clean.
54:33
[SPEAKER_03]: Yeah, I appreciate you guys watching.
54:35
[SPEAKER_03]: Thank you.
54:36
[SPEAKER_02]: They're cool.
54:37
[SPEAKER_02]: And for my understanding, you all have, uh, you all are doing a draft in nine o'clock.
54:42
[SPEAKER_01]: Oh, yeah.
54:42
[SPEAKER_01]: Yes.
54:43
[SPEAKER_01]: So we have a special founder draft that happens, um, every Thursday at nine p.m.
54:49
[SPEAKER_01]: Eastern.
54:50
[SPEAKER_01]: Um, so we draft, we guys, me and my brother that draft were the, what we call ourselves the badge bros in the draft.
54:57
[SPEAKER_01]: It's, it's very fun.
54:59
[SPEAKER_02]: You remember Boris said he's not, he's not doing all the work this year as far as the research on the players and the teams because he's trying to busy trying to build the platform.
55:07
[SPEAKER_02]: So something's telling me there might only be nine teams, nine roll teams and those drafts.
55:13
[SPEAKER_01]: So we'll richer would say he's taking the load and he's in the same boat.
55:19
[SPEAKER_01]: But basically like eight, I was like an eight person draft, you all.
55:22
[SPEAKER_01]: Well, we'll work.
55:23
[SPEAKER_01]: Yeah, we're actually drafting as one as one team.
55:26
[SPEAKER_01]: Okay, understood.
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[SPEAKER_01]: We're job fans won team, but basically like if you end up in that draft with us that every single person in that draft gets one banana spin, which means that you can win, you know, twenty free drafts up to twenty free drafts and guarantees at least one free draft as well.
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[SPEAKER_01]: So, you know, we try to make it real fun and exciting with all of our, we have like a lot of cool promos and stuff that we do, but yeah, the founder draft is really cool.
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[SPEAKER_01]: We stream it every week and
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[SPEAKER_01]: Yeah, man, we're excited.
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[SPEAKER_01]: Yeah, but you probably don't want to join because we will wreck you even though we haven't done our research.
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[SPEAKER_03]: Yeah, it's pretty much a donation if you join that draft.
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[SPEAKER_03]: So we will take it.
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[SPEAKER_02]: I might have to try to hop in that draft in an hour to see if I can sneak some time in and get another draft and I've got a couple more draft passes, minus well.
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[SPEAKER_02]: Try to use them with you guys and fast track to the finals and some other cool fun stuff, right?
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[SPEAKER_03]: Yeah.
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[SPEAKER_03]: Okay.
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[SPEAKER_00]: Okay, all right.
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[SPEAKER_00]: But yeah, I think this.
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[SPEAKER_00]: Yeah.
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[SPEAKER_02]: No, I'm liter of the, I wonder if the war rooms for these, um, these founders traps are as heated as we're getting here.
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[SPEAKER_03]: Oh, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no
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[SPEAKER_02]: Richard Boris.
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[SPEAKER_02]: I appreciate you guys.
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[SPEAKER_02]: Thank you guys for joining everybody for tuning in.
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[SPEAKER_02]: As you know, every Thursday, I'm out here streaming.
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[SPEAKER_02]: Best ball drafts, whether it's SPS, whether it's another platform.
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[SPEAKER_02]: So just continue to tune in.
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[SPEAKER_02]: Thank you guys again.
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[SPEAKER_02]: Happy drafting everybody.
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[SPEAKER_03]: See you guys appreciate.
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[SPEAKER_03]: Peace.