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EDP65 [ft Joe Wigfield]: Shanghai Diamond League / British 10,000m Champs / Irish National 5k / Joondalup Festival · Easy Double podcast

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  Yeah, lace them up another. Way another easy.
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  Double yeah from the track to the rodeo we talk that talk
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  splits on the watch but we still take the Mick Dean in Perth with
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  the long run legs going breaks the fire when the session gets
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  thick Ryan in the mix with the numbers and plans from Everson
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  to medals yeah we break it all down hard graft Monday left
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  about a Sunday still chasing peeves by the.
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  World. Hello and welcome back to the
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  Easy Double Podcast episode 65. My name is Ryan.
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  I'm joined, as always, by Dean Menzies and Owen Smith.
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  Dean, how are you getting on this fine Monday evening?
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  Going well, yeah, it's getting a bit colder over here, dare I
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  say, but other than Brave and the Elements doing pretty well.
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  It looks like we're both wearing a second layer.
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  In fact, quite rare. Yeah, it is.
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  It's not often we're having to record with extra layers on, but
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  yeah. But no, it's lovely though, to
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  be honest. Like the weather's been
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  beautiful as far as running goes.
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  It actually is. The days are stunning, to be
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  fair, aren't they? Like it's hard to complain about
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  a little bit cool mornings when you get low 20s sunshine, not
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  much wind all throughout the afternoon.
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  Like that's just perfect. Yeah, we, we spun the wheels a
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  little bit yesterday, didn't we? Around at a pretty nice part of
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  the morning. And it was beautiful.
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  And then it followed by the Eagles game that afternoon and
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  even the commentators were saying there was no excuses for
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  both teams because the weather was pretty lovely.
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  And the result was equally as beautiful for once.
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  Third win, you beauty. Who's the thought?
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  That's it. My love.
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  I'm also joined by my other Co host Owen.
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  How are you doing over there Monday afternoon?
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  Yeah, Monday afternoon, yeah, the weather's gone to shit
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  again. Just these massive big showers
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  of rain. Like on my long run yesterday it
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  was grounded for like 20 minutes and then the middle bear it just
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  like pissed rain and that you actually get cold like it's that
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  bad. So I'm happy I'm I think the
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  first half the week is pretty shit and then when I leave to
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  Belgium and the weather starts to pick up, which is just
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  typical. But I'm now hopefully, hopefully
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  well at the web like it's super for running conditions like the
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  mornings and evenings are super bright.
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  So we can't really complain. So that's humid.
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  Irish summer hasn't arrived yet. Not a warm weather.
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  Training hasn't started just yet.
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  And you tease there to double race week for you and I.
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  You're in the 5000 second track race of the season, Yeah.
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  Waiting for this start lists to be announced because so with
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  this, it's a cold I fam meet IF AM and there's like a pre
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  program, main program and then post program.
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  So the pre programs like the main.
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  So it's like all the top athletes and I think there's 25K
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  races, maybe 3 in that main program, but they're all like
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  under 14 minute guys. And then the post program starts
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  at like 10:20 and let me just double check that and 10:20 that
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  after program starts. And that's the one I'll be in.
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  So I'm just hoping that I'm in some of the earlier heats
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  because you could end up running like on the website there,
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  there's 199 runners in the post program.
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  So you could end up running at like, yeah, 1:00 AM.
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  So I'm hoping I'm one of the early ones or else it's going to
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  be a long night. Presumably it's all sated
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  though. Yeah, yeah, yeah.
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  So hopefully I think what my Belfast time I should be in like
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  a 1415 sort of umm heat. So umm, yeah, hopefully I'll be
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  near near the front, but we'll see and.
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  You're on HPF. Oh, I'm all for, I don't know,
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  I'm refreshing deal the whole time, but I think it will be
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  closer to the race. But I think the brakes are
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  pretty stacked. It could be like 30 in the race.
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  So a series you're going to be on, hopping on the rail and just
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  like hanging on for their life. Yes.
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  It's not a case of hoping to get in like the faster race or the
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  slower race because it's just going to be all people around
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  your ability either way. Yeah, just probably 100 of
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  people that want the same thing delighted.
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  So yeah, won't have to worry about going fast.
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  That'll take care of itself. And yes, it's also HBF on the
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  weekend. Dean is typically is it the half
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  marathon, the main event there, or are they kind of like equal?
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  Because it used to just be a 14K, like was the one was the
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  only event offered and then it's evolved into the three races
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  that it is now. I would say all of them are like
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  generally fairly well contested. But yeah, look, perhaps and I
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  suspect the prize money, not that it's well advertised is is
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  tiered towards the longer races, I think.
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  But yeah, either the the the 12th has a lot of prestige I
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  think as well. But the issue is, and this is
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  what you likely find out is unfortunately, they don't
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  bifurcate the road such that you have a clear run of it in the 12
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  K. So you end up running into
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  traffic. Have you guys done it before,
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  either of you? No, but like everyone I've spoke
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  to says, I'll have fun running into the back of the half
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  marathon. Yeah.
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  So look, there's been some really good races over time in
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  the 12 K, but certainly once they introduce the half,
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  unfortunately by the time you get to the the tunnel part of
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  the race and particularly coming out of the tunnel, you then
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  spend the second-half of the race running into a lot of
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  traffic of the the slower half marathoners.
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  So it makes it pretty, yeah, it makes it pretty difficult.
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  It's an added element in terms of picking racing lines because
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  you can't run the tangents. You generally find yourself
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  running pretty wide, running up curbs, just doing whatever you
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  can to not have to stop for people.
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  Run it back. You can, yeah, you can.
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  But there's so like there's just hundreds that you're running
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  through. So yeah, it's a bit of a unique
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  experience. Oh, I look forward to it.
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  And we also have this Wednesday is the easy double in the
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  community with the double run with on and the running center.
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  So 6:00 AM in the morning there's a trail run with ONS New
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  trail shoe in Kings Park starting from the running
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  centre. And then 5:30 PM in the evening
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  is the usual shop run where we'll get chance to try some of
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  ONS faster Rd. range of shoes. So if anyone's listening to this
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  in time for that, get yourselves down.
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  I think on will be giving away a pair of their shoes and we've
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  got a last minute HBF entry if anyone is in need of 1.
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  Are you? Are you?
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  Planning on just taking the shoes again, Ron.
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  Hopefully that'll be nice, wouldn't it?
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  I am there's there's trial ones though.
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  If I got them I'll just I wouldn't be running them.
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  I keep them as a little lifestyle casual shoe.
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  They look too nice. Generally on aren't renowned for
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  having like the bubbles in the sole or the like.
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  I don't know what you'd call it. And did the trail ones have
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  that? Because I can imagine like
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  sticks and stones getting caught in them, in the middle of them.
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  Let's have a look at the photo again.
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  The the ones that I've got now, I don't know why I was on the
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  beach in them. There's fucking sand getting
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  stuck everywhere. But now the trail ones look
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  pretty solid. I don't know if you can see.
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  Oh yeah, there. We go, yeah, I don't need to do
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  any running. Then lastly, it's been brought
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  to my attention that Apple podcast keeps having us off for
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  some reason when we sync the episode, because we use Spotify
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  as our host platform. When it pushes it through to
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  Apple, Apple keeps cutting it off at like half an hour or like
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  some random time. So a couple of people have
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  messaged us about that because they listen on Apple.
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  So I apologize for that. And yeah, if it happens again,
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  either jump across to Spotify because it's fine on there or
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  let us know. But I'm struggling as to what we
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  can do. Someone, someone thought it'd
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  been it'd been paywalled because he joined Patreon is like, I
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  thought you guys are kicking me out.
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  I'll say no mate, never. I'll open up a ticket with Apple
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  support so it's for us. Yeah, this is your role.
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  Open a ticket, log a call with it.
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  Yeah. Oh, good night.
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  Go on, you do that, do you? Are you in your workplace, Ryan?
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  Is that what? If you've got a an IT issue, you
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  have to make an incident request, Open up a ticket.
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  Yeah, and little old mate over here, pick it up, give you a
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  bell, start taking control of your screen.
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  Yeah, I don't know where you're going in them folders.
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  Have you tried turning it on and off?
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  Yeah. Is there an update joke well.
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  We do also have a special guest waiting in the lobby and he's
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  joined us fresh off the back of the race last night.
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  He's been on the podcast before we had him on.
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  I went back and looked before. It was only back in October, but
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  it feels like a little bit longer than that ago, given
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  everything that he's achieved and done since.
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  So there's multiple congratulations in order.
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  Welcome back to the show, Joe. How are you doing, Joe?
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  Big Field. Jokes.
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  He's not even here. How would we get someone like
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  that on here? Joe, you're on mute.
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  I don't mean I don't think Joe's on me is.
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  It been on Instagram? No, can't hear you.
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  No, he's left. He'll be back in a SEC, but Joe
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  Race will then talk about it. He raced in the British 10,000
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  meter championships last night which were held in Loughborough
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  on the track there. It's actually called the Paula
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  Radcliffe Stadium I think. Hello.
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  Hello, Joe. Hello, your eyes.
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  Yeah, we've got. Yeah.
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  So I've done the intro for not. Did you catch it?
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  I heard some of it, yeah. I said hello, and then for some
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  reason my mic wasn't working, so I just left and came back again.
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  And then I just had Paul of Accliff Stadium.
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  So go from there. Yeah, must must be something to
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  do with you then. So yeah, how how was the race
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  last night? Congratulations.
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  Does that make you the British 10,000 meter champion?
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  Yeah, I believe it does, even though I came second in the
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  actual race. I think the guy who who won the
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  won the actual race as an Ethiopian passport so he wasn't
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  involved in the British championships race, but I wasn't
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  sure when when like during the race until the roundabout like 8
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  laps to go. So if if you watch the stream or
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  anything like that, it was kinda around 3 case ago he made a move
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  and I realized I was clear the person who had needed to be who
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  was in, who was then the second place Brit.
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  So as Condo cruised a bit into the finish, not no special time
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  or anything like that. But yeah, it does technically
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  mean I'm the British 10K on 10K track champion.
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  How does it compare to 10K on the road?
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  I can imagine it's. Enjoyable.
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  Yeah, it's so less, it's so less enjoyable.
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  It's, it's so much harder, I think because I've always said
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  like since going to the roads like it, you feel like you're
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  within like a proper race and like you've obviously got the
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  support or like all the crowd and all that.
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  Whereas on the track it's I feel like you've got to be a lot more
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  switched on because each lap you technically get like a mental
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  reminder of how you're actually getting on.
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  And then like, because if you've got someone there are the same
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  splits or saying like you're looking at the clock, you kind
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  of know like if you're picking up the pace, if you're slowing
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  down and they feel like that can get in your head.
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  Whereas on the boat, I feel like depending on how you how you
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  habit, like you had to get a reminder every K or every mile.
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  So I kind of prefer that like just looking at a watch once
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  every mile to see how I'm getting on.
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  But yeah, on the track it like it's give it gives you legs an
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  absolute battering. How did your calves pull up?
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  Yeah, they're struggling. Luckily I had physio this
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  morning, but that wasn't, that wasn't too pleasant.
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  Like I was sat there like basically gripping hold of the
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  beds while they were going into it.
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  And like, I know it's not going to clear today.
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  It'll probably hopefully clear over the next couple of days.
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  And it just kind of just helped me.
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  It'll help it flush it out. But yeah, no, they're battered
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  and my back's battered as well, but it's no less than what I
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  expected to be. I know when when we spoke last
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  time you were talking about the longer distances because you've
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  just done the Manchester half Marathon and you're saying some
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  of it can be boring. So were you bored out there last
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  night or were you in a bit of pain?
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  Yeah, I was. I was pretty bored, but I was
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  also like getting, getting used to the pain.
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  Like I feel like obviously like British athletics try their best
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  and putting on the events and like it was kind of obviously
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  with no high gates or like I was so up for doing high gates, if
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  that was if that was going to be on, because obviously I've been
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  there to spectate. I've paced the race before.
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  I know what it's like. It's it's quality.
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  And then like it was kind of, it wasn't the best like in terms of
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  like crowd support because even though the loft for
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  international meet was on and there's quite a lot of people
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  there in the day, it was like it kind of felt like a separate
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  meet. It happened like 2 hours after
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  loft for international finish. So it's kind of a bit of a
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  shame. But like you can't really choose
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  that. Like if British Champs is
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  British Champs for a reason, like there's got to be a bit a
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  little bit more professional. It's got to be very so fascic
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  sponsored. So if that's how the event was
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  going to go on, like that's that was going to be the case.
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  It's one of them, really. So the big question then, what
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  does that mean for the summer? Does that lock in your England
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  vest or have you got a bit more work to do?
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  So because I got the European qualifying standards in Valencia
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  in January, they're taking Rd. time.
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  So I then got based in my job yesterday, which is the reason
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  why I went to do it was I had to had to come top brick to get
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  selected for Europeans. And that's what I did do
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  yesterday. So from what I've been told from
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  speaking to people, they're like I've got the option there to go
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  to the Europeans, which I will, I will do.
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  I think there's selection meetings, not for a little while
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  yet, but I believe that's, that's me selected for Europeans
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  to do the 10K commonwealths. They're not taking both times.
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  So I would have had to try and run sub 2720 yesterday, which
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  would have been difficult to do. Like there was, there was a few
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  Europeans in the race and that were going after the that
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  European standards and Commonwealth standards, but it
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  just wasn't the night for it. Like there was only two of them
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  and I think they found out pretty quick there.
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  I spoke to them beforehand and kind of said like I'm going for
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  the Champs, I'm not going for the pace really.
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  If you guys want to go on the pace, like you will have to do
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  it by by yourselves. So at least they knew that
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  that's what I was going to do and.
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  I bet you they were made-up with that.
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  Yeah, well they can like that's they got told it was a British
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  champs race as well. But yeah, I think they split it
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  for 2K each. They did one of them did 1K and
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  then the next lad there's another K and then one pulled
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  off after doing 2K and then another lad went to AI think 3K
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  and then pulled off. And he was the very just like,
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  well, we weren't going to get the time.
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  So what's the point in knack on your legs when I think they
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  they're another race in like 2 weeks time.
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  So it might be better set up to do it there rather than trying
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  to do it a lot for with not not much crowd. 8:15 at night.
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  Europeans and that's very exciting.
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  How do you prepare to race against Andres Arm Green?
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  Because he's been very public in that that's his kind of big a
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  goal for the year, to try and go after a medal there.
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  And then he opens up in something rather quick over 3K
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  on Saturday night as well. Yeah, I mean, it's going to be
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  pretty mental. Like obviously like if you look
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  at it from like, I think the world champs last year, like
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  you've got to to the podium where Europeans weren't.
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  So like they're they're they're both going to be off there.
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  It's going to be it's going to be a probably a fast but
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  tactical race. There's going to be a lot of
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  surgeons. So I feel like it's a guy game
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  of training towards that and like kind of keep on top of the
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  the volume based sessions and I've already I've text Jordan to
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  see what. This is.
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  For a bit of advice and see what like I need to do like so I can
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  speak to my coach and I kind of have both both imports and like
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  what what we've been doing like is obviously been working.
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  So, but it's good to know that that's kind of what that's what
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  he's going to be doing as well. So I'm aware of it and it'll be
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  in reality, it's going to be a fast last two miles.
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  That's kind of how it's going to go.
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  So it's got to be best prepared for that.
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  And like last night was my first ever 10K on the track.
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  So that was the most important thing was that I was I finished
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  it and I've got through that mental side of it.
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  Now it's hopefully about going going start champs and one and
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  well given a good account on myself and hopefully getting
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  decent time from as well. The race between now and then?
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  Or is everything training focused?
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  I probably will do some races there.
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  It's quite annoying because I was, I feel like I'm quite good
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  5K shape, but there's quite a lot in reality.
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  There's been there's a lot of five KS and quite a short space
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  of time. Like I think obviously there's
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  IFAM next week, then there's that comeback one in London.
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  And like based off how my legs feel and I think I'll only
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  believe returns jogging. By the end of the week.
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  So there's no chance of doing that.
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  And then there's not really them too, too big of opportunities to
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  try and chase like a fast 5K time.
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  But we've got British champs. I think that's in July, end of
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  June I think. So I think I'm going to go do
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  the 5K there rather than focus on the 15 and try and just once
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  run well there, hopefully try and get another medal because
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  that could be my third British Champs medal this year, which
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  would be pretty decent. And yeah, just kind of gave
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  myself up then to go to Europeans and then what's good
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  as well. Like I've obviously got the
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  World Rd. Championships and Copenhagen in
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  September, so I can kind of have a little reset after Europeans
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  and then already go in from a place of strength of my trains
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  going well and go and attack another half marathon.
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  Yeah, very good. She don't fancy the Birkenhead
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  Park Five Mile in July. No, unfortunately not.
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  I think it's going to be quite a good events and I don't want to
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  risk my my form of knock not bit place in the top 2.
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  I guess we also have to congratulate you on you've run
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  the British record over 10K on the road since you were last on
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  and that quickly LED well and no led to your sign in with Nike as
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  well. So congratulations with that.
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  How was question? How was the the 10K like kind of
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  finding out whether you were the record holder when the record
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  holder? Because from our end there was a
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  bit of a delay in the result being confirmed and it was like
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  a matter of a second or two here or there.
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  What was it like for you? Yeah, so it was pretty mental,
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  like it's hard to tell. It was so hard to tell.
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  Like I crossed the line thinking that I was under, but probably
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  only by like one second because like, obviously you see the
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  clock and then you go underneath the gum tree.
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  I was like, I was, I was certain that like I was underneath
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  there, but it probably would have only been by one second.
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  And then I spoke to a few other people around it and they were
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  like, yeah, you broke it by a fair few.
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  And then I was just like, I don't know, to be honest.
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  Like my watch said, I think it said like 37 like that.
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  So that would have been one second under.
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  I don't think. Obviously you don't exactly know
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  if you watch it's going to be accurate, but at least you know,
• 22:44
  like the time is from when you start them, when you stopped it,
• 22:47
  it's going to be around the same.
• 22:50
  And then the results just took an age to come out.
• 22:55
  This is a joke because I was, I've got 3 minutes behind you.
• 22:58
  But yeah, I think I was waiting for the results for ages and
• 23:02
  ages and ages. It took hours.
• 23:04
  Yeah, it was a joke. Like I think, I think it said
• 23:07
  somewhere that they kept, they come out at 11, but it's just
• 23:13
  like the basic, I think the base was at like half 9, wasn't it?
• 23:16
  And then like then you've got to wait like another hour after
• 23:21
  you've finished or whatever. And then it was the whole
• 23:24
  process of obviously I don't have an agent.
• 23:28
  So then I was only there with my family and like I wasn't, I was
• 23:33
  in the sub elite pen. I wasn't, it wasn't in the elite
• 23:35
  pen. So I managed to work my way over
• 23:38
  to the elite pen because I had a few friends there and they had
• 23:41
  their agents there and I had to speak to them because obviously
• 23:46
  to get a record ratified, you've got to be George Sesters.
• 23:50
  And I was like, what, what do we need to do for that?
• 23:53
  Where do we go? Because I've never never been
• 23:55
  told like I never went to the meeting, the elite meeting to
• 24:00
  like tell you what happens. And they said about going to the
• 24:03
  hotel to get it done. And I got down to the hotel and
• 24:07
  there was like in the in the end to do in place.
• 24:10
  And there were at that time there was only like 3 people
• 24:13
  there. And I spoke to the person on the
• 24:15
  desk and she said, do you know what record you broke?
• 24:19
  And I was like, I think I might have broke the British records,
• 24:22
  but I'm not 100% sure. And they're like, we can't test
• 24:26
  you if you're not 100% sure. So then I had to wait until the
• 24:30
  results came out. By this time, obviously, about
• 24:33
  20 other records have been broken.
• 24:36
  So I've been sat and I'm, yeah, I was sat and unstoping for
• 24:41
  about two hours. And then I found out obviously
• 24:46
  and match the records. And then we have, so we have
• 24:49
  that was a whole nother criteria of like, do I need to go get
• 24:53
  tested? Because technically I haven't
• 24:56
  broke it. And then I think we were having
• 24:59
  different things like some people said no, some people said
• 25:02
  yeah, so obviously just on the safe side we got tested.
• 25:05
  But yeah, I think I was sat in on statement for about 3 hours,
• 25:11
  which is pretty brutal. But the one, the one thing I'll
• 25:14
  say with it is that I left anti doping before album left-handed
• 25:20
  open. So like, I don't think he was
• 25:22
  too bothered about chilling there, but I wanted, I wanted to
• 25:25
  leave. No trouble pissing in the cup
• 25:29
  when it came to. No, well, I was holding that cup
• 25:32
  for about an hour because I had it done pretty much straight
• 25:36
  away. But there there was just a
• 25:38
  massive queue to fill out all the forms and like there was
• 25:41
  just so many people just jumping in the queue and you're just
• 25:43
  like, well, what can you do in that sort of situation?
• 25:47
  In the end it just ends up walking to the front of the
• 25:49
  queue and just said like I need to go now as one of the first
• 25:51
  day, like it's just taking the mech a little bit.
• 25:56
  Now I Remember, Remember right when Ryan was chatting with you,
• 25:59
  Joe, just in terms of you were saying you, you had different
• 26:03
  product and, and, and you were trying different things at that
• 26:05
  point in time. But now has has since running
• 26:09
  some of these times and getting some support, has that changed?
• 26:12
  You set up a bit? Are things a bit a bit more
• 26:14
  manageable? A bit easier?
• 26:16
  Yeah, it's definitely a lot easier.
• 26:18
  Like obviously I've got the support from right now and like
• 26:22
  it's a, it's a contract for a few years.
• 26:24
  So I've got, and now I've got that security there and like I
• 26:29
  got on well with the people there like this bit like
• 26:33
  obviously it's people think that you, like you have a lot of
• 26:38
  pressure when you have a contract and like you, you in
• 26:40
  the, in reality you do. But I've gone into it quite
• 26:44
  relaxed because I've had a professional contract before and
• 26:46
  I was only on, I was only on the contract for a year.
• 26:49
  And like that, I would say that put more pressure on because I
• 26:53
  wasn't sure what was going to go on at the end of that year.
• 26:55
  But knowing that I've got a few years with it, with them, like I
• 26:59
  can kind of be a bit more relaxed.
• 27:01
  And it's, it's actually allowed me to like enjoy running a bit
• 27:05
  more and like, because I really enjoy going to the road.
• 27:09
  That's definitely what's helped and like managing to get 2
• 27:15
  British Champs medals quite quickly.
• 27:17
  And so starting that contractor, I'll say it starts pretty well
• 27:21
  and I hopefully it just continues in that direction.
• 27:25
  But it's, it's definitely helped me out massively.
• 27:28
  Like it's I'm not haven't like asked at the moment.
• 27:32
  I'm still working just because I've been working in a school
• 27:36
  and like it's not too far away from the summer holidays.
• 27:40
  So I kinda, oh, it's I'm a boss that I'll finish, I'll finish
• 27:44
  that. But as soon as that's all, then
• 27:47
  I'll probably just pack that in and just fully focus on the
• 27:52
  running. And that's, I feel like that's
• 27:54
  what I can do best and then just focus and try and keep on
• 27:58
  performing. Have you, do you have any like
• 28:03
  comes planned? I'm not sure.
• 28:04
  Have you ever been to Like Altitude before?
• 28:07
  Yeah, yeah. So I've been to altitude a few
• 28:09
  times. I was recently in South Africa,
• 28:13
  a porch, and then I was in. I've been font quite a few times
• 28:17
  as well. And then I was planning on going
• 28:23
  to fonts before the world boots and I call them seasoned a
• 28:29
  little bit earlier. But now that I've got Europeans,
• 28:32
  I'm not sure what will be the case of like when I go to
• 28:35
  France. And because I would be going in
• 28:38
  there from a position of strength and just kind of see
• 28:41
  how it works. And like I feel like the
• 28:43
  altitude does benefit me quite well.
• 28:45
  Like I like just going up for like a month and getting a good
• 28:49
  bit of training and then dropping back down.
• 28:51
  I don't really like the the longer camps, but yeah, probably
• 28:56
  look at going to Fonts and then maybe now maybe going into next
• 29:01
  year, maybe look at going to Flagstaff because I know it's a
• 29:03
  little bit higher. So it could be quite good going
• 29:05
  into a few more bird races. And would you have access to
• 29:11
  like some of them, like groups out there or would you just go
• 29:14
  by yourself? I mean, yeah, I'm sure like I
• 29:17
  would be able to have access with it.
• 29:18
  Like what what's been quite good, like the camps that I've
• 29:21
  gone on, like I've gone with my training group and we all work
• 29:24
  quite well together. And then like where we've been
• 29:28
  as well, there's obviously other groups.
• 29:29
  So you can't just like mix in like everyone's kind of real,
• 29:34
  especially in the winter, everyone's kind of doing the
• 29:36
  same thing. Maybe in the summer, that's
• 29:38
  where it gets a bit, you know, like a bit more technical, and
• 29:41
  that's where you, like, have put a bit more focus into your own
• 29:44
  events. But yeah, you'll be able to link
• 29:47
  him with people. Like, it just helps, like,
• 29:49
  training with good level people and like, it's so much better
• 29:53
  than doing it by yourself, isn't it?
• 29:54
  So like, yeah, I'm sure there'll be access to it.
• 30:00
  Was the, when Nike did get in touch with you and sort it all
• 30:04
  out, was there ever any potential to like join a group
• 30:07
  or anything or was it always just kind of like the support
• 30:11
  and you would stay with your coach because I know you've got
• 30:13
  like a long term relationship with them anyway?
• 30:17
  Yeah, it was. There was no pressure to like
• 30:19
  join a group or anything like that.
• 30:22
  Like the, the guy Adam gets on very well with my coach and like
• 30:26
  obviously me and my coach have been together, working together
• 30:29
  for like 8 years now. So like we know what works well,
• 30:34
  like we've got a good relationship and, and how and
• 30:36
  how we approach training and how we approach racing.
• 30:39
  Like we both have good influence over it.
• 30:41
  So there's never any pressure. And Mike actually signed another
• 30:45
  lad from a group because Sam Charik, who was I think he was
• 30:49
  dead at British Champs 1500 last year.
• 30:52
  So we, we train quite well together.
• 30:55
  So technically we've got a little night group going on down
• 31:00
  here even though there's only two of us.
• 31:03
  But yeah, like there's no pressure steering.
• 31:06
  He has belief in what we're what we're doing because it's only
• 31:10
  just kind of been the start of like my buried running career
• 31:12
  and like the longer distances and it's been going well.
• 31:15
  So I don't see why there'll be any pressure to go move anywhere
• 31:18
  else. Like if it's not broke then fix
• 31:21
  it, you know what I mean? Is the mileage oh gone gone out?
• 31:28
  I was. Just going to say, I'm not sure
• 31:30
  if you've seen Andres Armgren, who's wearing like a pair of
• 31:32
  streak flies, but like the spikes in them.
• 31:35
  Have you gotten a chance to get a pair of them?
• 31:37
  Yeah. Yeah, I actually do, to be fair.
• 31:41
  That's one, yeah. They are literally just like, do
• 31:43
  you remember the old splats that like, I think they're like
• 31:46
  streak Lt. twos. Then you had a spike plate on.
• 31:50
  It's literally just the kind of the exact same.
• 31:52
  It's just a pair of St. fires with some spikes on.
• 31:57
  It just helps with grip really. And like kind of said that it's
• 32:01
  for like it kind of helps you transition from going from like
• 32:06
  them carbon shoes into a bit into the spike.
• 32:09
  So there's more aggression on the turns.
• 32:12
  Like if you want a little bit faster.
• 32:14
  I've already done like one or two sessions in them, but they
• 32:17
  do feel great. Like if if you're allowed to
• 32:20
  wear them in braces, it would be a joke.
• 32:22
  Well, obviously you can't it. Would have been handy there last
• 32:25
  night. Yeah, I think my cost would have
• 32:27
  been in a lot better place today.
• 32:32
  You boys got any more questions? Because I told Joe 15 minutes
• 32:35
  and we've overstated. That so good.
• 32:38
  That's very kind, Jeff. No, no.
• 32:40
  Hey, are you happy with what's his name, Ernie Slot staying on?
• 32:45
  No, absolutely not. See Alonzo's got the Chelsea.
• 32:49
  I know that's even worse, isn't it?
• 32:51
  Like it's just it's got to the point now where it's not even
• 32:56
  frustration like you, just I'm not bothered by it.
• 33:00
  Like watching the watching the game on Friday, I was like,
• 33:05
  well, at least that's not, I feel like it's not going to ruin
• 33:07
  my whole weekend. Like if it was a Saturday
• 33:09
  morning game, I felt like that would ruin my whole weekend.
• 33:13
  But the Friday I was just like, I'll go to sleep and wake up and
• 33:17
  it made no difference. And I was angry when we were
• 33:20
  losing quite a lot. Whereas now it's just at a point
• 33:23
  where you you've accepted it. And I want him gone but I can't
• 33:28
  see. Give them a few games into the
• 33:31
  new season and beyond. There, that's the issue.
• 33:34
  Like if we go in, if you get a favourable few games at the
• 33:38
  start, we'll start winning and then we'll fit.
• 33:41
  We'll face some adversity again and then we'll start crumbling
• 33:44
  under the pressure and it'd be sucked by November and then no
• 33:48
  one else won't have anyone there.
• 33:52
  This might confuse some of the listeners, but what about
• 33:54
  England in the summer? Will you be following them?
• 33:58
  Nah, I don't really follow them. Like obviously you've got mates
• 34:02
  here that like enjoy watching them.
• 34:04
  Like if for me, I've never really been bothered by it.
• 34:08
  Like if England do well, like it kind of makes my mates happy so
• 34:13
  it makes it a good time. Whereas if it if they lose, it
• 34:17
  doesn't really affect me. Like it's not like it affects me
• 34:20
  like Liverpool does. Like I'll watch the game because
• 34:24
  obviously enjoy Foresee, but it doesn't bother me if they do
• 34:27
  well. If they don't do well, I get
• 34:29
  into the games, but it's not one of them that I'm like, oh, if we
• 34:34
  go out some absolutely guttedness.
• 34:36
  Like it is what it is really. You know I've stood on the table
• 34:40
  throwing paints around. No definitely not.
• 34:43
  We had a mate who last year or when the euro is happening.
• 34:48
  I think we were in a pub watching it and the TV outsides
• 34:53
  was like 5 seconds ahead of the TV insides and he we saw the
• 35:00
  goal go in and he celebrated and then quickly ran the sides to
• 35:04
  watch it again and then celebrated twice.
• 35:07
  That could never be me. I think there's a better chance
• 35:13
  of the European 10,000 meters coming home than the World Cup
• 35:17
  coming home. Yeah, I'd say so.
• 35:19
  So. Fingers crossed.
• 35:23
  You never know, we get one of those hot British summer days
• 35:27
  and it's it's slow as anything. Then that'll do, yeah.
• 35:30
  Could be, could be anything there the last 800.
• 35:34
  All right. Well, thanks very much for your
• 35:36
  time and congratulations everything.
• 35:38
  Thank you very much. Cheers.
• 35:41
  Cheers. Thank you.
• 35:42
  Goodbye. Nice one.
• 35:44
  There you go, that was good insight.
• 35:47
  We forgot to Owen. We missed a rare opportunity
• 35:51
  there to sort of go back into Ryan's training history, what he
• 35:55
  was like to have been coached. I'm filthy.
• 35:58
  It's just come to me. The has to be Patreon episode.
• 36:03
  We'll have to get him in and say what was he like.
• 36:06
  Was it? Was it?
• 36:07
  Shade one of the hardest work and athletes I've ever met.
• 36:12
  Dennis Rodman, Would he be familiar?
• 36:16
  I think he might be a bit of a Rodman character himself.
• 36:19
  He feels, he feels got a bit of edge to him as well, which is
• 36:23
  nice, isn't it? He's like the last 12 months,
• 36:28
  fucking even last six months. Unreal British record now, like
• 36:35
  you're saying, winning national titles and still feeling good.
• 36:38
  Like the events a bit boring like.
• 36:41
  Demand he's done since the time you had him on Ryan before.
• 36:44
  He's like he's beat like he's beaten like for assessment, he's
• 36:48
  like throwing him away and the half marathon like for
• 36:50
  assessment is such a good runner like 10K5.
• 36:53
  I'd love to see him do a fast 5K.
• 36:54
  It's sort of sad that we won't get there.
• 36:56
  You won't get a chance at that. But although whoever rocks up
• 37:00
  is. But whoever rocks up to that
• 37:02
  British champs, that'll be good to watch, won't it?
• 37:04
  Yeah, and they sort of like it's so even that 10K in Europeans,
• 37:10
  like if it is slow, that's he's going to be there.
• 37:13
  That's the thing. Like he's got wheels.
• 37:16
  I was thinking because remember how we could say umm, cameras
• 37:20
  cut to Jordan and being in Angrin's corner?
• 37:24
  He's going to be similarly in Joy's corner this time.
• 37:30
  Aaron will be there. You've got tickets for 10K?
• 37:33
  You know, I've got the 5K on the Monday, they have 10 KS on the
• 37:36
  Saturday. I'd nearly go back over though,
• 37:39
  so good. Joe, you go there as his
• 37:44
  manager. Get in there.
• 37:47
  That's gasto about the doping protocol after, isn't it?
• 37:51
  Having to get like he actually had to ask to get drug tested.
• 37:55
  It's crazy. Yeah.
• 37:56
  Hey guys, I think I broke the British record.
• 37:59
  You mind if I come in for a for a test?
• 38:04
  And then he's like I'm gone a SEC.
• 38:06
  I think I've actually only called it.
• 38:08
  Do I still have to do 1? Yeah, because it was so annoying
• 38:11
  the way the results came out like 2 hours later.
• 38:14
  Like I'd say I was home showered, unfed but and he was
• 38:17
  still getting drug tested. But we remember trying to find
• 38:20
  it. Ryan, you remember?
• 38:22
  Yeah, because we were, we all were experienced, like very
• 38:25
  relatable. But then for him to be at the
• 38:28
  end like that, he was having the same feeling.
• 38:32
  It's pretty cool. Well, we've got plenty of
• 38:36
  results to get through here as well, so let's get moving with
• 38:39
  our third. Will we touch on that?
• 38:43
  We'll touch on the international may as well.
• 38:46
  So in the male winner was Kadar Omar and he ran 2829 but he'll
• 38:51
  he pops up on all them Rd. races.
• 38:53
  So yeah, he bet Joe Wigfield who ran 2856 even though he jogged
• 38:59
  it in James Kingston was third in 29 O 9 and then fourth was
• 39:03
  Max Malarvi. He ran 2913.
• 39:06
  So basically you're UK 123 is Joe James and Max.
• 39:10
  And on the female side Izzy Fry won it in 3212.
• 39:15
  Second was Poppy tank in 3215 and third was Hannah Irwin in
• 39:20
  Hannah Rose Irwin in 3222. So a much tighter affair there.
• 39:25
  But yeah, like, I was in my head when I was watching it, I was
• 39:29
  constantly comparing it to that knight of 10K PBS, that event
• 39:36
  where like there's crowds everywhere.
• 39:38
  There's crowds up on Lane 3. And then this one, it was, yeah,
• 39:43
  would have been definitely a lonely race out there.
• 39:46
  But yeah, Congrats to Joe. I was only looking at those
• 39:51
  Commonwealth Games standards the other day and I'm sure in
• 39:54
  relation to those women's results there, I'm sure the
• 39:56
  women's standard was either 32 flat, this for England Athletics
• 40:01
  or 3230. So they obviously had to go with
• 40:07
  it. Find that now I.
• 40:10
  Think you're right. I think I was listening to this
• 40:13
  Sunday Plot Class podcast and they were on about 32 minutes
• 40:18
  because there's another race next week.
• 40:20
  It's like this European Cup. And basically that could be a
• 40:25
  faster race. So they were saying it's a bit
• 40:28
  unfair that girls have picked that race instead of running
• 40:33
  their national champs, even though the other race probably
• 40:35
  has a better chance of running a faster time.
• 40:39
  So yeah. I can't believe he's that's
• 40:46
  going back to Joe almost like skipped Commonwealth's because I
• 40:51
  think maybe when I would spoke to him like Commonwealth's would
• 40:55
  have been a little bit of an aspirational goal.
• 40:58
  And then on paper, like Europeans is held in a bit bit
• 41:01
  of a higher caliber, isn't it? Because you well, you represent
• 41:03
  GB rather than England, Wales, Northern Ireland.
• 41:07
  And it's just so ended up that he's qualified for the
• 41:11
  Europeans, which is just amazing.
• 41:14
  He's like skipped that step of come games.
• 41:17
  He's concentrated top, which is yeah, like 2028.
• 41:22
  Like would he go for the Mar? I know he's so he's still young,
• 41:25
  isn't he? He wouldn't need to jump up to
• 41:26
  the marathon for LA 28 Woody. Yeah, reckon he's about 26.
• 41:32
  Yeah, he's still got time to track.
• 41:34
  Do you want to do those Irish results?
• 41:36
  Yeah, so on the weekend and there was like the Irish
• 41:40
  National 5K Rd. champs and yeah, that was in the Phoenix Park.
• 41:45
  So again, not the not the fastest place to run, but on the
• 41:49
  male side, Ben Guyden from Con from Clan Love Harriers, he won
• 41:53
  it in 1427. Second was Aaron Donnelly from
• 41:57
  DSD who ran M 1429 and then third was Killian Mooney in
• 42:02
  M1438 who was also from DSD. In the female side, Ella Fenley
• 42:10
  ran 16 O2. She's from DSD for the win.
• 42:14
  Second was Amy Green, who ran 1629 from Finn Valley, and then
• 42:19
  third was Maeve Branigan, who ran 1634 from a close at
• 42:24
  Harriers. So yeah, like that's a national
• 42:27
  title, so kudos to them guys. Just there's another fast,
• 42:31
  there's a really fast 5K on Tuesday, actually.
• 42:35
  Like in me, it's where I'm from that a lot of people would
• 42:38
  probably rather run than this one because you just have a
• 42:42
  better chance of running faster I.
• 42:45
  Was going to ask that. So because you've obviously made
• 42:47
  the choice to run a 5K the following weekend instead of run
• 42:53
  this, like how do you feel like? Because I assume you would have
• 42:57
  been quite competitive in this. Yeah, and in my head, like I'd
• 43:01
  love to like a national title, like no one will ever be able to
• 43:05
  take that away from you. Like you won the national 5K on
• 43:08
  the road in 2026. But I feel like for where I am,
• 43:15
  I like have a goal for this year and running in Belgium is going
• 43:21
  to be the best chance to get that goal if you get me.
• 43:24
  So and I'd like to just give the track a really good goal this
• 43:28
  year. So yeah, like I would love to
• 43:31
  run every single race. It's just like you sort of have
• 43:33
  to pick and choose. Yeah.
• 43:36
  And would it, I think like racing the competition or racing
• 43:42
  for time, but like. What's what's what's?
• 43:44
  Going to make you the most happy and what's going to get you most
• 43:46
  excited. So that's what really is
• 43:48
  motivating you. Yeah, and like, there's not much
• 43:52
  hype like about getting the National Rd. 5K, if you hear me.
• 43:58
  I don't know why it's not that much of a big deal over here
• 44:02
  when it really should be, but like like a 5K on the track is
• 44:05
  like way bigger a bigger thing. Like there's a tank on the track
• 44:10
  and I think last year it was like 4 people in it.
• 44:12
  Like there's just no prestige to it for some reason.
• 44:15
  Yeah, it's funny how the events can ebb and flow.
• 44:18
  I mean, it's the same for here, right?
• 44:19
  Some of these events you can rock up, no one's at them.
• 44:22
  Other events and you know, every local person's participating.
• 44:25
  Something across Australia, and I'm assuming this UK is no
• 44:28
  different. It's certain races have that
• 44:31
  rich history to them and maybe have a great reputation.
• 44:34
  You know, like some of the with some of these courses are fast
• 44:37
  and the deep fields are deep and it's a national title on the
• 44:41
  line. It's got the perfect recipe for
• 44:42
  everything. So it's like, well, why wouldn't
• 44:44
  I target that? Where it's like you say, this is
• 44:46
  probably a hilly, hilly race. So you know you're not going to
• 44:49
  post a time. Therefore you're only going
• 44:50
  there for a competition. And when you've got a chance, if
• 44:53
  you are really fit to post a time and maybe when when
• 44:56
  something, then maybe that's why some of the other races pull
• 44:58
  competition. Ian, do you want to do these
• 45:00
  Australian ones? Yeah, we, yeah, we can go into
• 45:07
  this maybe a little bit later. I mean, we don't know the
• 45:10
  insurance and outs of exactly what went on, but maybe I'll
• 45:14
  start with the 5K first and work my way up in distance.
• 45:17
  But in Joondalup over the weekend, we had the Joondalup
• 45:19
  Running Festival. The winner of the women's 5K was
• 45:25
  Catherine Lynn in 19 O 4. The winner of the men's.
• 45:32
  You're having a fight with Ducky, Sorry.
• 45:38
  Is are you typing turn on and off on the?
• 45:43
  That's exactly what I'm doing. So the winner of the men's 5K
• 45:48
  was Jamie Lynch. So Jamie, coach of Coach Ty, one
• 45:52
  of the herdsmen Harriers. So the red strip would have been
• 45:55
  being represented there. He was the winner of the men's
• 45:58
  5K in 1721 and then in the same quick.
• 46:01
  One quick one on that. That singlet is so nice, isn't
• 46:06
  it? There's something about like a
• 46:07
  red sash got across. It's just so cool.
• 46:10
  He's done well there. And the the outline of the of
• 46:13
  the great lake of Herdsman Lake is the emperor.
• 46:18
  Yeah. I mean, you need to hear this.
• 46:20
  You have you seen you were the seen the herdsman Harrier's
• 46:24
  logo, obviously the kind of like similar to a circular shape and
• 46:31
  have you you know what it represents.
• 46:36
  And let me just double check what you're on about.
• 46:40
  Yeah, have a look load up their Instagram account, could be
• 46:44
  about to save you here there. Herds on OK then that's deadline
• 46:49
  of the lake. Yeah, well, how many times does
• 46:53
  you look around that lake? Probably not many.
• 46:56
  No, not really. But Dean had no idea that it was
• 47:00
  the GPS route of herdsmen, and he's probably done like hundreds
• 47:04
  of laps around it. Hardly.
• 47:09
  What's a Dean? Yeah, no, yeah.
• 47:14
  I just didn't connect the dots. Would you believe they ended to
• 47:17
  where we're at after a long run, grabbing a coffee and then a
• 47:22
  penny dropped by? Yeah.
• 47:24
  Did you just take? Josh was like scribbling and
• 47:26
  like, Oh yeah, that looks good. We'll have that.
• 47:28
  Yeah, I just thought he just liked the image and then I
• 47:31
  realized that it had a bit more significance to it, so.
• 47:35
  There you go. But but yes, the 10K the women's
• 47:42
  winner was Debbie Donald in 36 O 6.
• 47:45
  And I remember Debbie's name because she was at the what was
• 47:50
  the name of the, the half Riga Half Marathon World champs a
• 47:56
  couple of years ago, which Sinead Noonan, one of our
• 47:58
  training partners at Front Runner participated in Ambrose
• 48:02
  Folly was the winner of the men's 10K and 3255.
• 48:06
  But I think the, I think the most controversy, there's a bit
• 48:10
  of controversy and we can talk about it by extension in our
• 48:14
  double trouble. But the the the half marathon
• 48:18
  turned out to be a 21.7 K race because I think from what I
• 48:23
  understand it, and Ryan, correct me, but the participants were
• 48:28
  led offline early on in the race and then happened to have to run
• 48:33
  an extra bit of distance towards the end to make up for it.
• 48:35
  So I think they ran a bit over distance.
• 48:39
  But yeah, the winner was Lauren French in the women's race
• 48:41
  12508. And we're not sure Will Clifton
• 48:45
  in 11256 or Tom Tedge in 1/13/25 were awarded the winner.
• 48:50
  I think that that may have changed places may have changed
• 48:53
  hands in the last few 100 meters of that race with some of the
• 48:56
  confusion that ensued after participants needed to reroute
• 49:00
  because yeah, a bit of local controversy in one of our Perth,
• 49:05
  Perth based fun runs. Yeah, sounds like a bit of a
• 49:09
  mess. I'll let you know how.
• 49:11
  How Ivan tempted it from Strava, from various people's accounts,
• 49:16
  is that the lead bike LED them off, took the wrong turn early
• 49:19
  on, which meant that they'd done like a 2K loop rather than a 4K
• 49:23
  loop. So that meant that when they
• 49:28
  were even seeing like 6K signs out on the racecourse, everyone
• 49:32
  was looking at the watch and being like, what the hell, We're
• 49:34
  like 3 or 4K into this race. We're not 6K.
• 49:37
  And so I think those who were obviously cross referencing the
• 49:41
  markers on course to the watch knew almost immediately like
• 49:45
  something was balled up and the race director has tried to think
• 49:51
  on their feet because they realized that the mistake had
• 49:53
  been made. And whilst because it's one big
• 49:56
  loop whilst everyone's out on the other side of the lake up
• 49:59
  there and Joondalup, they've tried to manufacture an
• 50:02
  extension near the finish. And it sounds like that
• 50:05
  extension was almost like a bit of a shoot system, like kind of
• 50:09
  windy out and back to make up the distance.
• 50:12
  And it's ended up being rather it's not severely, but if you're
• 50:16
  trying to run a PB6700 meters is quite severe over distance.
• 50:22
  And that explains why I didn't get that but that initially, but
• 50:27
  that explains why 19 KS remember some people's Strava stay slowed
• 50:31
  in that from that point. And I couldn't understand why so
• 50:33
  many people were slowing at that point.
• 50:35
  But it's probably a function of what happened with the course.
• 50:39
  Yeah, how? Wait, how many years has this?
• 50:42
  Like has the course changed over the years?
• 50:45
  I don't think it has. Yeah, it's a bit of a strange
• 50:48
  series of events now. It's it's been around a long
• 50:50
  time. It's around a freaking lake.
• 50:55
  Like you know, like I don't get how they mess this up.
• 51:00
  How much was an entry to this race, do you mind me asking?
• 51:05
  So they have like the WAMC, they have this calendar of races and
• 51:09
  four or five of them are down as like major events across the
• 51:12
  year and this being one of the major events.
• 51:15
  So it was like had a decent couple of sponsors on it and
• 51:21
  don't know participation numbers.
• 51:22
  Dean, you're looking at the results before.
• 51:24
  Did you manage to see any, any sort of number of people think
• 51:28
  it would have been about 60-70 dollars?
• 51:34
  And in defence of years, a lot of people, goodness, looking at
• 51:37
  the numbers, I don't know, I'd have to export them to get the
• 51:40
  exact numbers. But yeah, certainly quite a few.
• 51:42
  I think though, and I'll just defend the Marathon club.
• 51:47
  I know we're going a bit off paced here, but like the
• 51:51
  Marathon Club is he's a, he's a club not-for-profit based
• 51:55
  business run largely, a lot largely based by volunteers.
• 51:59
  And what I noticed in particular, the importance of
• 52:03
  the likes of the Marathon Club is that during COVID, a lot of
• 52:07
  our major fund runs were shut down because the for profit
• 52:11
  companies didn't want to operate for fear of us going back into
• 52:15
  lockdown and then not making a profit or then losing money.
• 52:18
  Whereas the Marathon Club continued to pump out events the
• 52:22
  whole way through COVID and created some of the best racing
• 52:26
  for us. I mean, one of the highlights
• 52:28
  probably was when Jess Stenson came over and ran the Perth
• 52:31
  Marathon because we had a bit of a bubble open with Adelaide.
• 52:35
  And so like we couldn't go over to the East Coast at that point
• 52:38
  in time unless it was for essential work.
• 52:40
  But we could because of the because of how things were over
• 52:44
  here. And the Marathon Club put on a
• 52:45
  great event then and we had a great half marathon during that
• 52:48
  time. So I mean, yeah, I I think they
• 52:51
  do an exceptional job generally and if they're fantastic, they
• 52:56
  go to their trouble of getting their races certified.
• 52:59
  They're not. They do have a history of
• 53:01
  getting these things right. But yeah, real shame that this
• 53:03
  one completely skew with. Yeah, but like the GA over here
• 53:10
  is is like I'm prefer a number for whatever and then they don't
• 53:14
  make a fucking balls of shit like this.
• 53:17
  Like even in the half marathon I don't match around and was let
• 53:20
  off on his league bike. Like you've one job like you
• 53:24
  tell someone study the course, cycle it the day before.
• 53:27
  I don't care. The people are after paying good
• 53:28
  money for this. I'm for like shit like this to
• 53:31
  happen and I actually don't think it's good enough and
• 53:34
  actually really pissed me off. I think if you like a lot of
• 53:39
  the, if this was like a World Athletics event, like what
• 53:43
  oblique, there needs to be an obligation on the athlete.
• 53:47
  Like I'm pretty sure if you actually go off course yourself,
• 53:51
  you're at fault. But they're following a bike
• 53:54
  now, yeah? But I think if you read like,
• 53:59
  say, World Athletics guidelines, the onus is on the athlete.
• 54:02
  Just what? I'm saying is yeah, I think so.
• 54:05
  I think and you have to re enter.
• 54:06
  I was reading well like this is not going to be sanctioned.
• 54:09
  I tried to find WAMC rules for this sort of stuff.
• 54:12
  They obviously don't have any, I don't think.
• 54:15
  But like I'm pretty sure if you leave incorrectly, exit the
• 54:18
  course, you need to re enter exactly where you're meant to.
• 54:21
  And like I remembered lots of events where people have got
• 54:23
  disqualified because that's pretty much the rule.
• 54:27
  Like I remember when Jack ran and went off course at national
• 54:29
  half marathon champs didn't run any further, but he left the
• 54:32
  course where it wasn't meant to, didn't re enter where he left.
• 54:35
  And I'm pretty sure there's a lot of onus goes to the athlete,
• 54:39
  rightly or wrongly. But but my point is, is there a
• 54:44
  bit of an obligation on us to make sure we understand the the
• 54:47
  roots? Probably there's an.
• 54:49
  Obligation on both, but when you're paying £70 for an event
• 54:53
  you'd expect it to be fucking half organized.
• 54:56
  That could also be the the flip side at the end of the race
• 55:00
  though. Like imagine you didn't know the
• 55:01
  the route, the course, and then they're actually redirecting you
• 55:07
  through this extension. If you were like hard by the
• 55:10
  fact that I know the course and said I'm not fucking running
• 55:13
  that it's not part of the course, you know, I mean, but
• 55:18
  it's obviously an honest mistake like them done on purpose.
• 55:21
  The guy's made the wrong turn on his bike and it's a shame
• 55:23
  because people are just trying to they're stuck between a rock
• 55:26
  and a hard place, aren't they? Do we run the rest of the race?
• 55:29
  No, and it's going to come in at 20 point 5K and no one will get
• 55:32
  the chance to run a PB because they won't run the distance or
• 55:36
  they've tried to rectify things. So they've tried to do the right
• 55:41
  thing almost, and it's just a shame that they've got the
• 55:44
  distance a bit wrong and therefore if people wear on for
• 55:47
  a PB maybe they've slightly missed her.
• 55:51
  Yeah. And such a shame because like it
• 55:53
  is, I mean, we saw what the weather was like.
• 55:55
  It's a cracking morning. It is such a beautiful time of
• 55:59
  year to be running. You know, you do all your
• 56:00
  training through these average hotter months to come into this.
• 56:04
  And it does present a such a great opportunity to post 1/2
• 56:08
  marathon PB and people have chosen this over the HBF run as
• 56:12
  well. And yeah, real shame 50.
• 56:17
  Dollars it was by the way. So it's actually not crazy
• 56:20
  expensive, but obviously you still would like a proper
• 56:25
  course. $50.00 is a bit huh? Like, I'd rather.
• 56:33
  I mean, I'd rather. Minimum you would expect, isn't
• 56:36
  it? Yeah, you'd expect even.
• 56:37
  Just pay the freaking lead cyclist.
• 56:40
  Like, pay someone. Umm.
• 56:43
  Yes. And I think that's the point.
• 56:45
  That's right. There's enough money in there to
• 56:47
  get some things right. And what are the things you
• 56:49
  really want? And I think one is you want to
• 56:52
  stay on course, you want to run the right distance and you want
• 56:56
  like timing, but there's certain things that you, you really want
• 56:59
  to erase that you. Who organizes the city to surf?
• 57:04
  Is that WAMC as well? No, that's a different event,
• 57:10
  yeah. One of the things what
• 57:12
  frustrated me was because it's hard to be too emotionally
• 57:16
  involved given that we weren't there.
• 57:18
  And therefore I don't want to like weigh in too much because I
• 57:21
  wasn't there. And I don't know exactly what
• 57:22
  happened and what was said. But from not being there, I was
• 57:26
  trying to kind of follow it or see if like they'd come out and
• 57:30
  made any sort of statements or anything.
• 57:32
  So I was checking the social medias and particularly on the
• 57:35
  Facebook, it seemed that lots of people who had raced were kind
• 57:39
  of like in the comments on the post kind of saying like what
• 57:42
  happened? My watch says 21.8.
• 57:46
  And obviously people realizing they'd ran over distance, but
• 57:50
  these people perhaps didn't realize exactly what had gone
• 57:54
  on, as in they took the wrong turn.
• 57:56
  Then they tried to make up for it.
• 57:58
  And even still today, there's no kind of like formal
• 58:01
  acknowledgement as to what happened on the Facebook or the
• 58:04
  Instagram. So you'd like, I don't know,
• 58:08
  them to come out and take some sort of accountability or
• 58:12
  release some sort of statement to let everyone know what
• 58:14
  happened or apologize or just something, some sort of
• 58:18
  communication. That's a good shot.
• 58:25
  What's moving on? We had some professional
• 58:28
  results. The Diamond League circuit
• 58:29
  opened up over in Shanghai, China, and we previewed it last
• 58:35
  week. There was some good races.
• 58:36
  There was deep fields as there always is in the Diamond
• 58:38
  Leagues. We made some predictions.
• 58:42
  I don't even know if I can remember who the predictions
• 58:44
  were, so hopefully you can hold me to account if I got anything
• 58:48
  wrong. Remind me if I got anything
• 58:50
  right. Yeah, poor, cloudy and have a
• 58:53
  good day in the office. It just shows the difference.
• 58:58
  Yeah, it shows you the difference between like a paced
• 59:01
  race and like champion bracing. Like it is totally different.
• 59:04
  And champion bracing benefits some that needs more than
• 59:07
  others. Yeah, had similar, similar
• 59:11
  reflections as well as just that slightly faster pace as well.
• 59:15
  You know, like in horse racing and and this is this isn't a
• 59:19
  crack or anything like that, Claudia, but you know, they talk
• 59:22
  about like a step up in class. So you have like group three,
• 59:26
  group two, Group One races and like these really good horses at
• 59:29
  the previous class. When they step up, it's how will
• 59:33
  they go? And if they're just really good,
• 59:35
  they they do well. And I'm not saying this was
• 59:38
  necessarily reflective of that, but you can just see like the
• 59:43
  pace is noticeably quicker and it's on from the get go.
• 59:46
  And like you're talking milliseconds in terms of like
• 59:49
  tenths of a second. If you overshoot that, you're
• 59:51
  getting spat out, and you might only be getting spat out in the
• 59:54
  last 75 meters, but it's everything.
• 59:56
  And that shows, I think, Jess's experience, doesn't it, and
• 1:00:00
  confidence in that. She was like straight away,
• 1:00:03
  right back of the paces. Let's go cloudy a little bit
• 1:00:06
  reserved, a little bit hesitant, tried to set me.
• 1:00:08
  Like mid pack and then she has no control over it and it's kind
• 1:00:13
  of stretched out in the races away from her instantly.
• 1:00:18
  And you're tearing into Claudy here, but what's Claudy's PV?
• 1:00:22
  Yes, she pretty much. Ran.
• 1:00:24
  Yes. So leave that.
• 1:00:25
  Leave her alone, Jesus. But we just which we just where
• 1:00:31
  you tipped it for the I think the win.
• 1:00:33
  She finished 9th. That's all.
• 1:00:35
  There's more comment at you. Yeah, I'm sorry.
• 1:00:42
  And. Even I think she ran very
• 1:00:45
  smartly because I think did you. So the way the race played out,
• 1:00:49
  the paces were we're taking them through what must have been
• 1:00:52
  about mid 350 pace and when they stepped off Jess Hall was taking
• 1:01:00
  on the pace. I think was it Halem was sitting
• 1:01:04
  sitting directly behind, and so was Dorcas Ewoi as well.
• 1:01:10
  Was was was. Prominent.
• 1:01:13
  When I thought she was gonna win, I was like, shit, I've
• 1:01:16
  written her off. And I gave you the option, and
• 1:01:19
  so I was cheering for her, but unfortunately she tied.
• 1:01:22
  She tied up a bit late, didn't she?
• 1:01:25
  But she was there with about 200 to go.
• 1:01:28
  But yeah, I think Jess made all the running of the race and a
• 1:01:33
  gap opened between the top few and the next group and Claudia
• 1:01:37
  was in that spot. Well, was sitting, was a couple
• 1:01:41
  back. And you were wondering, given
• 1:01:43
  her domestic form, should she have been more assertive than
• 1:01:45
  being right on that group, was my thought.
• 1:01:48
  But as it as it turned out, I think she probably did judge her
• 1:01:54
  effort really well. Like she I just don't think she
• 1:01:56
  had any more and she closed as quickly as she could.
• 1:01:59
  And it was Abbie Coble who closed the better of all the
• 1:02:01
  Aussies and CLO and finished third.
• 1:02:03
  So Halem won in 350 in 355 mid and then CJ Daguma was second
• 1:02:12
  and Abbie Caldwell closed fast. It was the fastest closure of
• 1:02:16
  that second group into third and 356.12.
• 1:02:19
  And I think does that put her that was a three second PV or
• 1:02:23
  something like that? And I think that will 4 seconds
• 1:02:26
  of sunning to that effect and puts it like, is that number two
• 1:02:29
  all time Aussie behind? Yes, it's crazy, isn't it?
• 1:02:33
  You almost have to reframe how you look at Abby now based on
• 1:02:37
  that. Like I'd say that's a like a bit
• 1:02:40
  of a step up in terms of she's just elevated herself.
• 1:02:44
  And does she have any looking at all now at Commonwealth Games or
• 1:02:50
  has that been selected because judging by this, like she came
• 1:02:54
  down the home street like a train, like she she ran so so
• 1:02:59
  well. But is it set in stone?
• 1:03:01
  Dutch Asshole and Claudia are going.
• 1:03:05
  Well, I think you can. I mean, traditionally you have
• 1:03:08
  up to three that you can send, but I think what's going to make
• 1:03:11
  it interesting is the fact that they kept the tank.
• 1:03:14
  Remember, there's like, because this is like some modified Comm
• 1:03:17
  games, remember? So the Comm games were initially
• 1:03:19
  to be held in regional Vic and then Victoria pulled out and
• 1:03:24
  then they've been. Then there's a smaller subset of
• 1:03:28
  events has been selected and I think the Aussie team is kept
• 1:03:32
  at, I don't know if it's like 60s athletics teams kept at six
• 1:03:35
  years, some something like that. So there's going to be pressure
• 1:03:37
  for sports and I reckon like rate world ranking and those
• 1:03:40
  sorts of things are going to play into it as well as those
• 1:03:42
  that get the auto qualifier which is winning nationals and
• 1:03:45
  running times I think. So off the back of that, if it
• 1:03:49
  was 3, then you would think it would be Abby, Jess and Claudia.
• 1:03:54
  Like she would be the third person likely to go, but maybe
• 1:03:57
  it's going to be more difficult. Which just shows like how the
• 1:04:03
  saying you're only as good as your most recent performance,
• 1:04:05
  how true it rings because remember a couple of months ago,
• 1:04:08
  like Lyndon was looking so good? Yeah.
• 1:04:12
  And and it was probably. Have been in the conversation.
• 1:04:16
  And Abby was probably, I perhaps overlooked by a few as well.
• 1:04:20
  No, like, didn't she beat Claudia at the Australian champs
• 1:04:24
  in the 800? And we, I think we overlooked
• 1:04:28
  that a little bit to say, well, that Claudia was focusing on the
• 1:04:30
  800 on the 1500, but maybe it was a bit unfair.
• 1:04:37
  But also, well, it might have been all of the Diamond League
• 1:04:41
  debuts, but potentially, Oh no, Claudia, I think she ran in
• 1:04:44
  London last year. But yes, a little bit
• 1:04:51
  disappointing to see Jess end up fading back to sex after like
• 1:04:55
  kind of being so aggressive and making the running.
• 1:04:58
  But hopefully she she times the peak well like she usually does.
• 1:05:03
  I feel like Jess is in that really, really tricky situation
• 1:05:06
  now. Whereas like she's so good and
• 1:05:08
  she's like on the edge of like being the Bush probably is one
• 1:05:12
  of the best ever, but like a different day.
• 1:05:16
  Like she times that better. Like that first lap could be a
• 1:05:19
  second or two slower and she's able to hold on and run a
• 1:05:22
  really, really fast time. Whereas now she's like just
• 1:05:25
  crossed that line a little bit and she just suffers so much for
• 1:05:28
  like she's at that level now. Or like the milliseconds, just
• 1:05:32
  pushing it can really hurt you. Yeah, at least she's learning
• 1:05:36
  these things in the non championship style races.
• 1:05:41
  Yeah. Which Speaking of timing, timing
• 1:05:44
  your runs well, did you guys watch the men's 800?
• 1:05:48
  Yeah, as. Excited for Owen's boy?
• 1:05:51
  How was that? And the bit of the grey, few
• 1:05:54
  grey grey hairs in amongst that got me excited.
• 1:05:58
  Man, he came from so far back. From the clouds.
• 1:06:03
  Yeah, yeah, that did. Big long neck on him.
• 1:06:08
  With the dip too. And the other was the guy that
• 1:06:11
  finished second. He was suffered.
• 1:06:13
  Didn't he throw the hand up? Didn't he sell him?
• 1:06:17
  I think he might have started to, might have called it too
• 1:06:20
  early. But yeah, Mark English, he won
• 1:06:24
  it in 14385. Second was Hangaru KET.
• 1:06:29
  Oh no, it's going to be KET the ball goo Hangaru in 14389 Yeah,
• 1:06:35
  from Botswana. And then third was Brandon
• 1:06:36
  Miller, who ran 144 flat and Mark English debut and his new
• 1:06:41
  Under Armour contract. Well, random Under Armour gear
• 1:06:45
  anyway, so I'm happy for him that he's picked up another
• 1:06:49
  company to support him. Part of Rinaldi's gang.
• 1:06:54
  Yeah, he's the, he's the, he's got the sacred sauce, doesn't
• 1:06:59
  He's the best 100M coach in the business.
• 1:07:02
  Yeah. Well knows what to do.
• 1:07:05
  Phenomenal, I was listening. Did you guys catch any of the
• 1:07:08
  Let's Run chat? They're speaking about them
• 1:07:11
  again. They were speaking about Jr. and
• 1:07:14
  they were speaking about the fact that and in in reference to
• 1:07:18
  Mark English's run and they mentioned when do you think Mark
• 1:07:22
  English? Where do you what year do you
• 1:07:24
  think he's PB? So he's third, he's 33 or 34,
• 1:07:27
  but when do you think what year was his PB set?
• 1:07:31
  Last year. Well oh shit was I hope.
• 1:07:35
  Maybe it's not his PB but it was definitely his.
• 1:07:37
  It was in 28. He ran 144 in 2018, so 8 years
• 1:07:42
  ago he apparently. No, he was at PB last year last.
• 1:07:47
  Year is. That true?
• 1:07:48
  Yeah. Did he run 48 in that long?
• 1:07:50
  But did he run 144 in 20? 18 it's been him eight years to
• 1:07:55
  yeah. To get back to and apparently
• 1:07:57
  Jr. has been coaching you for 18 months and he's like.
• 1:08:01
  Luke boys run really well, didn't he, whilst he was towards
• 1:08:03
  the front, like he looked that strong.
• 1:08:05
  And he was, yes. So he was 4th and he was, he
• 1:08:09
  took up the running after the pacemakers dropped out.
• 1:08:12
  So now he didn't look out of place at all, did he?
• 1:08:14
  Honda and a Diamond League, which was a as we speak about
• 1:08:18
  every time we watch a 800 meters like the fields are stacked like
• 1:08:24
  this is missing a lot of the notable names, but they're like
• 1:08:28
  the ones that did race are all incredible runners and now we're
• 1:08:34
  missing Peter Bowl who went home because his wife was went into
• 1:08:38
  labour apparently. The men's 3K, then I'll whip
• 1:08:42
  through the results and then we can chat.
• 1:08:44
  So German guy Mohammed Abdullah, he took the win in insanely fast
• 1:08:49
  meeting record world lead 725.77 with the the early celebration
• 1:08:56
  to Booth and Kenya's Reynold Chariot was in 2nd 726.11 and
• 1:09:02
  our boy Andreas Armgren was third in 72648 for a new Swedish
• 1:09:07
  record. Then the field goes on.
• 1:09:10
  Timothy Cherry, it was in there. Cornelius Kemboy.
• 1:09:13
  Matthew Kipsang, Seth O'Donnell back in 11th, which sounds like
• 1:09:18
  not a great result in many rounds. 729 broke 7:30.
• 1:09:25
  Considering this is like the first outdoor track of the like,
• 1:09:30
  top level season these times, I'd say like it bodes well for
• 1:09:35
  the rest of the year, doesn't it?
• 1:09:36
  Because they're only going to get faster.
• 1:09:39
  Yeah. So I would say normally when I
• 1:09:41
  watch a men's 3000 meters, I'm looking at 7:30 as like the,
• 1:09:46
  the, the winning time, you know, that 62nd pace light set for 60
• 1:09:50
  seconds and then they're racing at that.
• 1:09:53
  And again, this is credit to let's run for mentioning this,
• 1:09:57
  but I think they said that the previous record for the most sub
• 1:10:02
  730 finishes in a 3000 meters was 7.
• 1:10:08
  And there was was at 14 in this one.
• 1:10:11
  Outrageous. And yeah, when that guy, when he
• 1:10:16
  won and he said you're world lead national record and then on
• 1:10:21
  Grim was in 3rd and he'd run a Swedish record, my first thought
• 1:10:26
  was how isn't that guy considering he's German, he
• 1:10:30
  hasn't run a European record if he's beaten on green.
• 1:10:33
  And then I remembered Jacobs run. 717 is like, yeah, he's
• 1:10:41
  he's ruined up for everyone else because these times ordinarily I
• 1:10:45
  you don't see 725, you might see 728 to 732.
• 1:10:48
  For a lot of these, you don't see 725 and then he's just
• 1:10:52
  spoiled it by running that. Do you know much about this
• 1:10:54
  German Blue prior to this Mohammed?
• 1:10:56
  No, no, he's sort of pretty under the radar, right?
• 1:11:01
  Like he's not someone I remember us previewing in the past.
• 1:11:04
  So someone I have to do some some homework on obviously
• 1:11:10
  Reynold Chariot, did he medal? I think he might have medaled at
• 1:11:15
  the in the 1500 at the world Champs.
• 1:11:17
  Is that right? Yeah, Yeah, I think so.
• 1:11:20
  Yeah, so and so you've got Reynold Chariot, who's I think
• 1:11:24
  World Championship 1500 meter medalist Andreas Armgren, who
• 1:11:28
  medaled at the most recent world champs, and then Timothy
• 1:11:32
  Chariot, who's former world champion himself or, or, and
• 1:11:37
  he's this bloke, I wouldn't say he out kicked them.
• 1:11:40
  He actually just, he stole the gap on them and he just didn't.
• 1:11:44
  And they and he was looking back, he was running scared, but
• 1:11:47
  he held him off. Yeah, it was the the brave way
• 1:11:52
  to do it, wasn't it? Fair play to him.
• 1:11:53
  It never usually ends quite well when they go like that.
• 1:11:56
  No. And so, yeah, it was great.
• 1:11:59
  And to be, yeah, I doubt he probably did have the wheels.
• 1:12:02
  Did he like to to in terms of these kickers cool to see and
• 1:12:08
  finishing quickly? You know, like you sort of
• 1:12:11
  you've seen just on these rivet for these longer Rd. races and
• 1:12:15
  you don't really see his turn of turn a foot.
• 1:12:18
  But you know, after having that conversation with him that his
• 1:12:21
  background is from the you know, the short, the middle distance,
• 1:12:25
  short distance track track. So nice to see that still there.
• 1:12:31
  Yeah. And yeah, not to overlook the
• 1:12:33
  time either. I think of seeing a bit of a
• 1:12:35
  clip from him afterwards. And he said it's not often he's
• 1:12:39
  like surprised with the results, which I took as though like he's
• 1:12:42
  so dialed into his train and he almost knows to the second what
• 1:12:46
  he's going to run. And this was a positive
• 1:12:48
  surprise. So I think he said he's got, is
• 1:12:52
  he doing a 5K? Isn't this weekend coming in
• 1:12:56
  Xiamen again in China or maybe a week's break?
• 1:12:59
  But his next race being a 5K is pretty exciting if he's running
• 1:13:04
  national record. Now what does 2?
• 1:13:10
  Dare we say 726 / 5 K? Yeah, it'd be pretty.
• 1:13:15
  So I mean, the only problem is when they they sometimes the
• 1:13:19
  points key off the word record. So Jacob's cooked them.
• 1:13:25
  We should mention, I think Seth O'Donnell, that's the second
• 1:13:28
  fastest 3000 meters behind Stewie Mcswain, I think, right,
• 1:13:34
  which is a pretty good effort. And he beat the home the likes
• 1:13:37
  of Bahane Balu, who I'm pretty sure that's who I tipped and
• 1:13:43
  getting it Wiley who sees is he the stapler?
• 1:13:49
  Either way, they're these are like top, top class athletes.
• 1:13:52
  So not to, yeah, pretty impressive.
• 1:13:57
  Seth has almost like skipped the middle staff, hasn't he?
• 1:14:01
  Like one minute he was running around Victoria Cross country,
• 1:14:05
  like almost. He was in that stage where he
• 1:14:09
  was on the national level, but he would finish like 8th to 10th
• 1:14:13
  or something. Like he wasn't really top of the
• 1:14:16
  national level. And then now here he is in
• 1:14:18
  Diamond League fields. Like it's amazing to be fair.
• 1:14:21
  Yeah. And it's one thing to get a gig
• 1:14:23
  in one of these, but then it's another thing to hold the pack.
• 1:14:26
  And you notice when it started to stretch out because they
• 1:14:29
  literally are just ticking off these 62nd laps.
• 1:14:33
  And you're wondering, can he hang tough there because like
• 1:14:35
  what the domestic 3000 meter chance?
• 1:14:38
  So they're running, you know, a couple of seconds a lapse slower
• 1:14:42
  than this at least. And so it's much more.
• 1:14:45
  Comfortable by the 5th floor. Exactly.
• 1:14:49
  And so and so to see yeah, to see him hanging tough and he
• 1:14:53
  was, he was hanging tough in that, but in that main group was
• 1:14:57
  pretty cool because where did. He said said all time come Myers
• 1:15:03
  has run 727 as well. There you go.
• 1:15:07
  Is that indoors though 27? Oh yeah, probably will be
• 1:15:11
  running. Yeah.
• 1:15:12
  Boston, yeah. Yeah, Yeah.
• 1:15:14
  I think I heard he mentioned maybe he must have been
• 1:15:16
  referencing outdoors. And then because where do you
• 1:15:21
  think say with Joe and like, because Joe is sort of one of
• 1:15:25
  those is now getting to the point where he wants to be
• 1:15:28
  competitive. Like, wouldn't it be fun to see
• 1:15:31
  him trying to to do what Seth's doing, which is where do I sit
• 1:15:34
  relative to these guys? Yeah, now especially he's got
• 1:15:40
  the Nike support, like gives you that profile that you wouldn't
• 1:15:44
  have otherwise had even if you did have the times, doesn't it?
• 1:15:48
  Like there's so many people across the world who can run
• 1:15:51
  very fast, but it like if you don't have the right agent or
• 1:15:54
  you haven't got a profile with Brandon and stuff, you can't get
• 1:15:57
  the race entries. So he's got a better chance now.
• 1:16:02
  Yeah, which is how cool is Ace having to just piss in his own
• 1:16:05
  cup? Got no agent like hey can I hand
• 1:16:08
  this in so I can sort of get my time ratified?
• 1:16:13
  Imagine he had to just flown home and not not known about it
• 1:16:17
  and then he his record like was ineligible.
• 1:16:20
  Yeah, it would have been any might have been expensive,
• 1:16:24
  expensive mistake. The women's 5K also happened.
• 1:16:30
  This was wasn't part of the broadcast so I'm actually seeing
• 1:16:33
  this race. It was a non Diamond League
• 1:16:34
  event which is quite bizarre given the greatest of all time
• 1:16:38
  Faith Capier gone warn in 1424 world lead.
• 1:16:42
  It was very very tightly contested though.
• 1:16:44
  So second, third and 4th all round 1424.
• 1:16:49
  So Lukina Ambor of Ethiopia, Seniat Gattachu of Ethiopia,
• 1:16:55
  Medina Issa of Ethiopia all 1424 and then in fact second down to
• 1:17:02
  8th are Ethiopian. Rose Davis of Australia was in
• 1:17:07
  14th for season's best 1453 sub 15 is nothing to undermine and
• 1:17:14
  Modi sky ring 16th and 1510 also.
• 1:17:18
  So I mean I don't know how those Aussie girls are supposed to
• 1:17:21
  compete with that 1420s. It's, it's almost like a
• 1:17:25
  different, different league, isn't it?
• 1:17:29
  Yeah, I think it went to the form book as far as like the
• 1:17:32
  result goes, but that's not 5 hundredths of a seconds,
• 1:17:34
  probably tighter than what you would anticipate, right.
• 1:17:36
  So I I wonder if maybe Faith is just getting stuck into a
• 1:17:44
  season. Yeah, first time hearing hearing
• 1:17:49
  about her for a while, isn't it? I do wonder as well with the
• 1:17:54
  5000 meters in in China, I like, I remember, I think we said this
• 1:17:59
  last week, but some of those events it's not made for, it's
• 1:18:02
  not super conducive. Like maybe the 3K is just short
• 1:18:05
  enough where you don't overheat, but the 5K is probably there's
• 1:18:09
  there's probably a bit of tax paid in terms of the conditions.
• 1:18:14
  Do you think and fate will stick with the five KS or as you drop
• 1:18:18
  back down to the 1500? I think she's got a better
• 1:18:22
  chance in the 1500. What about you?
• 1:18:25
  I don't know who's in the 5K. Oh, and there's no Chibet,
• 1:18:29
  right? Chibetz.
• 1:18:29
  Yeah, like Faith on our day can run like 14 low.
• 1:18:33
  Yeah, she probably does. Yeah, Yeah, probably.
• 1:18:37
  But sure, what's on. Actually, there's nothing that
• 1:18:40
  were what's that the thing at the end of the year ultimate
• 1:18:42
  champs probably give up, for which maybe the world world only
• 1:18:48
  championships. Good mentioned.
• 1:18:51
  Don't everyone who wins any Diamond League throughout the
• 1:18:54
  season, that's an automatic qualifier to that World Ultimate
• 1:18:58
  champs at the end of the season. So all of these race winners
• 1:19:01
  that we've read out have secured the spot early doors, I think.
• 1:19:08
  It's done by points as well, so you can see their position is on
• 1:19:12
  the fair side and then that for winning the race get eight
• 1:19:14
  points, so then you get in on a on points.
• 1:19:20
  It would be good to good to follow along because that's
• 1:19:22
  probably going to crescendo a lot of the World Athletics for
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  Is and during the back end of that ride, you know, sometimes
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  you will open a gel and like take it in three goes over like
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  10 minutes. This wasn't one of those
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  occasions. This was like straight down the
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  hatchet as yeah, I had to text RAF and say is this program
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  right of is the is the triathlons program just like
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  flipped some things have got a 90 minute run and a 90 minute
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  ride here and he said it was right.
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  So yeah, I was pretty tired yesterday, bit of fuel and going
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  on. So wait please, something you'd
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  more than one gel Did you? Or slowly easing into it. 2 gels
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  and two scoops of drink mix. Ah, fair, fair.
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  Nice nice, nice. I'm yet to try the Apple ones.
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  I want to try the Apple ones. Yeah, you got them for us.
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  I have, I have, I just need to try.
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  I haven't gotten the chance to whack one open yet.
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  To BC. Gel and a boiled egg is
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  gel onto the egg, be nice, huh? Yeah, you haven't.
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  Tried the the apple yet? Because she's too easy having
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  these five course meals at work. Boys today was good, had my
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  sourdough bread with this like guacamole wet like jalapeno in
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  it as well so it's a big kick to it.
• 1:21:32
  And then I've started my beetroot loading so I'm also had
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  like fucking 4 big slices of beetroot with some leaves, some
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  memolentils, black beans, sweet corn, some cherry tomatoes and
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  some bent Turkey breasts chopped up.
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  Gnomeo. Owen and I will be taking a shot
• 1:22:31
  of Gnomeo, if not 2 on the weekend.
• 1:22:37
  I might take it the day before 1 the day before I heard, I heard
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  a lot of boys do that now. So I might take one the day
• 1:22:44
  before and then won a couple of hours even though boys when
• 1:22:48
  you're facing a half ten, I'm going to start doing my runs.
• 1:22:51
  So tomorrow I've sort of my last sort of warm up session.
• 1:22:55
  So that's on that. Like I'll probably get that done
• 1:22:57
  at 8:00 and then I think Wednesday I'll try and like do
• 1:23:01
  my run in strides at like 10:00 at night.
• 1:23:05
  Thursday the same when I get there I'm just trying to get
• 1:23:09
  into routine because it like I'm normally fast asleep like a
• 1:23:13
  little baby at that time. We have a nap beforehand.
• 1:23:18
  I'll join the day 100%. I won't.
• 1:23:20
  I won't be able to stay up. Yeah, I've, we're not.
• 1:23:24
  We've done, you know, some when we have our track races here on
• 1:23:27
  a Friday night. I'll yeah, if I can have a
• 1:23:30
  little afternoon nap so I can. All the caffeine load them.
• 1:23:35
  Yeah, I don't know. I'm going to go to bed after.
• 1:23:39
  You'll be well if if it goes well, I'll be absolutely wired.
• 1:23:46
  Call us early record. Oh yeah, it'll be a Saturday.
• 1:23:53
  Wait, what day is it on your Saturday night?
• 1:23:56
  Saturday night, yeah. If you could.
• 1:23:59
  Be finishing into the start of my race.
• 1:24:02
  HVF, yeah. On here, I'm itching to ask you
• 1:24:09
  what you're doing for the rest of the week and stuff, but we'll
• 1:24:11
  we'll save that for the new agenda.
• 1:24:15
  It's a news I'm actually I'm treating myself later on the
• 1:24:18
  way. Oh, here we go.
• 1:24:22
  Yeah, emptying the bank balance again.
• 1:24:25
  Well, not really, but we'll try after OK, next marathon, which
• 1:24:30
  is going to be Berlin, where he ran 202 last year.
• 1:24:34
  And his fellow sub to our marathoner Yarmouth Cajolcha has
• 1:24:38
  also confirmed his next marathon and he's going to Valencia.
• 1:24:42
  So is Berlin September and Valencia December.
• 1:24:46
  I guess the obvious question is will either of them run a PB?
• 1:24:52
  I think if you're going. To pick a course faster than
• 1:24:56
  London, then Berlin or Valencia are the ones to pick.
• 1:25:02
  So. And I think the only thing that
• 1:25:05
  made it very difficult, like Salway, I think split like 6030
• 1:25:09
  last year. Remember they still set him off
• 1:25:11
  at world record target pace and he just, even though it was
• 1:25:13
  blazing hot. So yeah, I mean, Berlin's has a
• 1:25:19
  history. Of world records in.
• 1:25:20
  The marathon. So I think it's a great
• 1:25:22
  opportunity. And then we all know what
• 1:25:24
  Valencia, how special Valencia is.
• 1:25:26
  So if if they're both to pick, it's a shame they're not going
• 1:25:30
  against each other. I think what made London so
• 1:25:33
  special was the fact that they all race to each other.
• 1:25:36
  I think it depends on where and. John career goes.
• 1:25:40
  Like if he goes Valencia down to we'll just.
• 1:25:43
  I'd say don't knock. Out a fast time and but I don't
• 1:25:48
  know yeah, I think. Valencia.
• 1:25:50
  'S bit like it's more stacked is around the top end.
• 1:25:54
  Some reason every time I think of Berlin, I just think of.
• 1:25:57
  One person. Running through them gates, the
• 1:25:59
  Brandenburg gates, whatever you call it.
• 1:26:01
  But Valencia, like I feel like Valencia's.
• 1:26:05
  Got such a history of was like 30 plus national records broken
• 1:26:08
  there. But are they breaking the world
• 1:26:10
  record there? Maybe not Even so, though.
• 1:26:14
  If it is more stacked, who else is?
• 1:26:16
  Going off at sub toothpaste he's going to be by himself from 5K
• 1:26:20
  if that's what he's going for. Well that's always the crazy
• 1:26:23
  part is you have to get like a sub 60.
• 1:26:26
  Half marathon at a pace and even then they're cooked at halfway.
• 1:26:30
  But they're better off just pacing each other, being in the
• 1:26:33
  same race. Yeah, Kajal.
• 1:26:37
  Chin knowing what? He's capable of is a little bit.
• 1:26:39
  Dangerous but like that would just be going by the script and
• 1:26:43
  as you know things don't always go is what they should slightly
• 1:26:48
  off pace but now that. But.
• 1:26:51
  Tan looks like tangent, but the UK London Marathon, I think the
• 1:26:57
  ballot may have opened and this is off the Real Science Sports
• 1:27:01
  podcast. So again, it's just other
• 1:27:02
  content. But they were saying that I
• 1:27:05
  think 1.8% of Brits of Red have put their name in the ballot to
• 1:27:10
  participate in London next year. So one in 50 Brits are wanting
• 1:27:13
  to run London. That's how popular it is off the
• 1:27:16
  back of the yeah, world record. So what's that?
• 1:27:20
  The population is about 70 million.
• 1:27:23
  So that's about 1.4 million have gone in, but did I hear that
• 1:27:28
  like 90,000? Americans.
• 1:27:30
  Have applied it was done the last run podcast or something
• 1:27:34
  like that something crazy 60 was it 60,000 people do it Hey,
• 1:27:37
  because it was a world. Record event this year but might
• 1:27:41
  be able to double that obviously if they do 2.
• 1:27:44
  Days true so. Far it's getting.
• 1:27:49
  Crazy. Runnings just gone bananas.
• 1:27:55
  Have you got here, Owen Gout Gout reportedly.
• 1:27:57
  Signs an 8 year. Adidas Steel with 4,000,000 +
• 1:28:01
  500 KA year. Yeah, I think that brings them
• 1:28:05
  up to. The Brisbane.
• 1:28:07
  Olympics. So basically they're back and
• 1:28:08
  I'm until Brisbane, which, yeah, it's a nice little safety isn't
• 1:28:14
  it? For what age is 17?
• 1:28:18
  Shit, if I was him, I'd hope. That's staggered towards.
• 1:28:21
  Brisbane. Because if he's worth 500K,
• 1:28:24
  yeah. Wow.
• 1:28:26
  What's he worth by then? I thought you mean you might
• 1:28:29
  have spent it. Revealing him.
• 1:28:33
  Oh well, that too, yeah. Yeah, don't.
• 1:28:36
  Don't be dropping 8 million into his account now.
• 1:28:38
  He'd be running No PBS Africa. Darren Mcelhenny, your boy Owen,
• 1:28:47
  who signed with Hoka, seen that video?
• 1:28:52
  Yeah, it might be in there a lot.
• 1:28:54
  More but. Did see their video they put up
• 1:28:57
  him and Scott B we're doing a workout in font and I think his
• 1:29:02
  last 400 was like 55 like at altitude after doing like yeah,
• 1:29:10
  all is 400 for sub 60. He didn't like a mile 3-4
• 1:29:13
  hundreds a mile 3-4 or something like that.
• 1:29:15
  It was crazy, crazy, crazy workout yeah he just wanted me
• 1:29:20
  yeah. I want to know where he's,
• 1:29:22
  what's his first races because it's gonna be exciting because
• 1:29:27
  is he as he's. Come off the back of a bit of a
• 1:29:29
  injury spell. He's just getting back now.
• 1:29:32
  No, he was good last year. You don't.
• 1:29:34
  Alright. Last year, he was back.
• 1:29:35
  To Michael, Yeah, call me. Dalton's injured at the moment,
• 1:29:41
  but. Yeah, super, super.
• 1:29:44
  Super excited to see where he goes next.
• 1:29:46
  One's your zone. Yeah, so.
• 1:29:50
  People might know the name. Kibiwa candy, He basically came
• 1:29:56
  out that he was doping. I think he was the third
• 1:29:58
  fastest. Ever half.
• 1:29:59
  Marathoner. And yeah, it's after coming out
• 1:30:03
  that he was like, he's been charged again for, like,
• 1:30:05
  tampering with the doping control.
• 1:30:08
  So yeah, I'm not sure how much bigger a ban you can get, but I
• 1:30:12
  think he's just fuck off and like, leave the sport if you're
• 1:30:16
  at that shit. Why can't your lifetime him at
• 1:30:19
  that stage? Yeah.
• 1:30:21
  Like go away, I get it's. Hard to get worse than cheating,
• 1:30:25
  but then. Shit as well the fact that you
• 1:30:30
  cheating. Like he should be handed a
• 1:30:33
  lifetime. Bomb.
• 1:30:34
  Sure, we go to the. Does this make you think?
• 1:30:38
  Like in my head. Then I'm like, all right, if he
• 1:30:40
  was able to sort of like tamper with it, but he got caught is
• 1:30:43
  sort of boys that like just full on tamper what and get away with
• 1:30:48
  it. Yeah.
• 1:30:51
  Like it's the Wild West. Out there, yeah.
• 1:30:54
  I don't think it's a. Very.
• 1:30:59
  It sounds like there's a lot of things you can.
• 1:31:01
  Do to manipulate the system. Doesn't matter, sadly it will
• 1:31:05
  come out in the washing years to come on it.
• 1:31:08
  And then I'll feel like an idiot for defending people and kind of
• 1:31:12
  look at the positive side of things.
• 1:31:17
  Like what's the documentary the one on?
• 1:31:20
  Netflix Icarus. Oh, Icarus.
• 1:31:23
  Yeah, there'll be something. Like that about running.
• 1:31:26
  And then I'll just be gobsmacked and feeling like a fool.
• 1:31:30
  Should we go to the Diamond League preview or do you want to
• 1:31:33
  do the sound running? I'll just quickly quickly,
• 1:31:36
  quickly do sound running. And there's some big names in in
• 1:31:40
  this. I'll just quickly fly through
• 1:31:43
  it. So there is a women's 800 with
• 1:31:47
  the likes of Roching. Willis is probably biggest name
• 1:31:50
  there. She's fresh out of college.
• 1:31:52
  And the men's 800 is interesting.
• 1:31:54
  So you've got Donovan Brazier, Hobbs Kessler, Jake Whiteman and
• 1:31:58
  Josh Kerr, Bryce Hoppel and Isaiah Harris.
• 1:32:01
  And turning Krogan. So that turning Krogan, he was
• 1:32:03
  over in Australia, wasn't he? And actually in Josh.
• 1:32:08
  Kerr has the slowest PB John. Josh Kerr is the slowest.
• 1:32:11
  PB And this is an 800 women that wasn't 100.
• 1:32:17
  Yeah. Yeah, that's one being 100.
• 1:32:19
  Shit and. Josh didn't do too.
• 1:32:22
  Well, at the 8 hundreds in what was it called Grand Slam, did
• 1:32:26
  he? No, no.
• 1:32:29
  So. It's just working on us,
• 1:32:31
  probably top end, nowhere to hide and that failed it.
• 1:32:37
  No, definitely not. Well, it might be.
• 1:32:38
  Good, just hang on the back and try and kick.
• 1:32:40
  Them there's a men's 1500 with some good big names.
• 1:32:43
  You have Graham Blanks, Cooper Tier, Nico Young, Luke Houser,
• 1:32:47
  Parker Wolf, Liam Murphy, Eric Holt and then on Australia's
• 1:32:53
  side and Jack Anstey. He's in that one.
• 1:32:55
  So another just sit on the back and just hope for the best and
• 1:33:02
  the women's. 5K Graham Black pack of Albie.
• 1:33:04
  APB's listed. Yeah, I must.
• 1:33:08
  Have never run a 15 meters and women's 50.
• 1:33:13
  Women's 5K pretty. Stacked.
• 1:33:14
  You've got Pack of Albie, so she was really good in college but
• 1:33:17
  hasn't got a nice run over as a pro.
• 1:33:19
  You got Lauren Ryan from Australia, Marty Sky Ring.
• 1:33:23
  She's gone from Shanghai across to California.
• 1:33:27
  Wow, that just cannot be good. And you have Katie Snowden from
• 1:33:32
  the UK and they're probably. The bigger.
• 1:33:37
  Names And then the men's 5K again, like Joke, Jake, Dylan
• 1:33:43
  Jacobs, you got Hubbed and Samuel Morgan McDonald and
• 1:33:48
  Jackson Sharp, Drew Hunter, Kieran Tom Today, Adam Fogg,
• 1:33:52
  Friend of the show, David, David Malarkey, that Gulliver sing,
• 1:33:57
  the Indian guy and then Justin Knight, Toby Gillen as well.
• 1:34:02
  Yeah, just super like this weekend.
• 1:34:05
  It's pretty good for running and I'm guessing it'll be set up for
• 1:34:08
  that 13 minute wave light. It would be my guess.
• 1:34:12
  And have you been watching Morgan McDonald's YouTube series
• 1:34:15
  in the Breaking 13? That's what he's gone for, yeah.
• 1:34:19
  Yeah. Cool.
• 1:34:20
  Hey. Well, we weren't.
• 1:34:21
  Doing in depth preview. Of the Diamond League, unless.
• 1:34:24
  She's one who put there is that German guy in Abdullahi and I'm
• 1:34:29
  going to go and head to head again this weekend, this time in
• 1:34:32
  a 5K. Your chariot in there, basically
• 1:34:37
  the same field. Seth O'Donnell.
• 1:34:39
  'S in there it's. The three K just turned into a
• 1:34:41
  5K which is super exciting. Yeah.
• 1:34:48
  Who's your? Tip Ron, I'm.
• 1:34:51
  Going to stay with on green and double down.
• 1:34:54
  I might you could ask me who's going to win the.
• 1:34:57
  World Cup and I might say on green.
• 1:35:02
  I like it. I'm fair enough to.
• 1:35:06
  It's must be a nice little package.
• 1:35:08
  To get for going over there, you know?
• 1:35:10
  I say it's all inclusive. Nice little hotel for the week.
• 1:35:16
  Be a good little experience as well.
• 1:35:18
  Just spend a couple of. Weeks in China.
• 1:35:21
  Yeah, because even though in between.
• 1:35:23
  Races sort of shit like you can't actually do anything
• 1:35:27
  because you're trying to conserve energy because World
• 1:35:31
  Champs is that. Is in Beijing next year.
• 1:35:35
  Oh, is that? Easy double going, give that
• 1:35:42
  media password. And he just.
• 1:35:45
  Because. It's not it's not risky, but why
• 1:35:49
  not? Let's hope he devils down Jacob
• 1:35:53
  crop haven't heard. Him before, but he's a 1240.
• 1:35:56
  Five guy, Yeah, or that Bernie's guy.
• 1:36:03
  Bailey arms off Jacob Crop as you know.
• 1:36:06
  I don't like. I'm going for South O'Donnell.
• 1:36:08
  I'd rather go for him than some of them.
• 1:36:11
  You've been burnt after not backing in your man Mark
• 1:36:14
  English. Yeah, done.
• 1:36:17
  No, I'll have it set. O'Donnell to get a PB.
• 1:36:19
  There we go. Good line under over 13. 10 the
• 1:36:25
  Women's. 15 Oh, what is that? That's what you're saying.
• 1:36:28
  Yeah. Oh, tricky, yeah.
• 1:36:32
  I'll go over. And not I.
• 1:36:34
  Just think the weather's. Always shit, that's all.
• 1:36:37
  It's not that shit. I'm back and I'm.
• 1:36:41
  Under be a good run, be a good. Run if they break 13 minutes
• 1:36:46
  there. Yeah, it's PBS 1312.
• 1:36:50
  Sub 1310 and. Get them into the top ten all
• 1:36:53
  time. Australian and the women's 1500.
• 1:36:56
  It's a win win run, isn't it? Yeah, you.
• 1:36:59
  Go. Replay of.
• 1:37:01
  Aussie dominance again. Yeah, so the same 5 Aussies that
• 1:37:06
  lined. Up the week just gone and racing
• 1:37:09
  again against each other. I don't see though all of The
• 1:37:15
  Ethiopians, but I do see that Halem Burke.
• 1:37:19
  Halem is right, is backing up. So and so.
• 1:37:22
  Is so is Dorcas away? So I think, I think it's between
• 1:37:29
  the let me know if you guys. Disagree, but I think it's
• 1:37:34
  probably. Between Halem Dorcas and the and
• 1:37:38
  the Aussies I'm going for. Claudia, she won't fail me
• 1:37:44
  twice. I'll go.
• 1:37:49
  GSL. Yeah, the Guma isn't.
• 1:37:51
  There is. She and she was the one who was.
• 1:37:53
  Closing really well on on the race the other night gone and
• 1:37:57
  Dorcas she's I'll accept I was wrong.
• 1:38:02
  You're not finished yet, Dorcas. Love and that could those.
• 1:38:05
  About the end of the episode. So we'll be back on Wednesday
• 1:38:08
  and we'll be talking all things race previews and training weeks
• 1:38:11
  over on the No Agenda show in Patreon.
• 1:38:15
  If you would like to join us, we would love to have you.
• 1:38:19
  Owen. I can exercise some of our pre
• 1:38:21
  race anxiety and Dean can poke fun and laugh at us being
• 1:38:27
  nervous wrecks or excited balls of anxiety.
• 1:38:30
  Owen's speaking, but he's on Muse.
• 1:38:34
  I've a good. YouTube Diaries for us.
• 1:38:37
  Oh, let's go. This popped up.
• 1:38:39
  Yeah, this pop doesn't go to. Now I like it.
• 1:38:41
  So it's called New Standard and it's basically BYU lads.
• 1:38:46
  So it's your man Taving Kitchen, this guy a character cutting and
• 1:38:51
  Isaac Hengren. So I actually think Taving
• 1:38:54
  Kitchen is going out with Jane Hengren by the videos and but
• 1:38:59
  basically it's just the three boys in college living the
• 1:39:02
  absolute dream and just got shows like races training and it
• 1:39:07
  is really, really cool. All them are short form, but
• 1:39:12
  yeah, I I don't know why. It's just like they before a
• 1:39:15
  race one time, like they get up like 5:00 in the morning and
• 1:39:19
  start chatting shit. They play a game of Fortnite, go
• 1:39:22
  back to bed, umm, then run like a sub 4 minute mile.
• 1:39:27
  It's crazy shit what they do, but umm it got it's good.
• 1:39:30
  It just gives you like sort of a a look into what it's like in
• 1:39:34
  BYU and like that sort of college sort of running life.
• 1:39:38
  If you get me. Umm, it's super cool, super
• 1:39:41
  cool. 3 basically 3 lads are just wired on the the thumbnail.
• 1:39:50
  Of one of the videos here, the guy in the middle.
• 1:39:52
  It looks like a tank. Who's that character?
• 1:39:55
  Caught him. Yeah, he's a so farming a minor.
• 1:39:57
  He's good. Yeah.
• 1:40:01
  There's. 3 lads live in the absolute.
• 1:40:04
  Tree I'd love to have went to America for college just for him
• 1:40:07
  so fun, don't you think if he could have had your.
• 1:40:10
  Time again, that would be the dream.
• 1:40:13
  Yeah, I think I'd go, but yeah, that's a good YouTube.
• 1:40:16
  Give it a watch. OK.
• 1:40:18
  I'll take your recommendation on that one.
• 1:40:21
  Only a couple of K followers say you've called it early.
• 1:40:24
  On Yeah, yeah, Yeah. Heard her first to get the boys
• 1:40:29
  on it feels like. They they may be of like what
• 1:40:35
  was. The the old one with Kuperte and
• 1:40:37
  Carl Hoffa when they would bank for bothered new next Gen.
• 1:40:43
  New Gen. yeah. It feels like they've kind of
• 1:40:46
  gone. Gone with that angle, replacing
• 1:40:48
  them the college phenoms. That's it.
• 1:40:51
  I've got I've actually got two up my sleeve what we can.
• 1:40:54
  Archive as well. Because I haven't fully watched
• 1:40:56
  them properly yet, but someone Joe Burden from my club at home
• 1:41:02
  asked me to tell you Owen about. Is it Sean Tobin?
• 1:41:06
  He's on YouTube. Oh, from what you've done.
• 1:41:08
  Yeah, we've done before. Yeah, I've done them.
• 1:41:10
  My bad And the. Second one comes from front
• 1:41:16
  runner. This is there's now a new start
• 1:41:18
  up one called Forged performance from a couple of lads there.
• 1:41:23
  So that one a watch, Yeah, after.
• 1:41:26
  Were you? Getting in that run, yeah.
• 1:41:28
  No, no, no, no shared off. It's Zander.
• 1:41:33
  'S the cameraman. For some of the young guns I'll
• 1:41:40
  have to check. It out.
• 1:41:41
  Watch. Yeah, even just the thoughts.
• 1:41:44
  Of making YouTube. Videos around training stuff
• 1:41:46
  makes me like respect the people that do, especially those who
• 1:41:50
  like kind of film it and add it themselves.
• 1:41:53
  It must just be take up so much time, both physically added in
• 1:41:57
  it and everything, but also mentally like thinking about
• 1:42:01
  different scenes and whatever they're doing.
• 1:42:03
  This podcast can almost feel like too much in itself, let
• 1:42:07
  alone. And we're just coming on here
• 1:42:09
  just speaking that alone. Yeah, trying to, like, make a
• 1:42:12
  storyline on a video to fair play to them.
• 1:42:15
  I've got a handheld sort of camera.
• 1:42:18
  Type thing still in the box. Ryan could be just what you
• 1:42:24
  need. I don't need that so.
• 1:42:31
  But yes, that. Is us then and.
• 1:42:33
  We shall speak later. Let's go.
• 1:42:38
  Look after. Yourself, I wouldn't.
• 1:42:39
  Be doing anything. I wouldn't do well I've.
• 1:42:44
  Booked me sauna for the night before for a couple of hours.
• 1:42:47
  Before sauna, is that not going down the self sabotage?
• 1:42:52
  Roofs. Yeah, well, sure.
• 1:42:54
  You went into the onsen, did you know?
• 1:42:59
  10 pastries. 10 pastries and an onsen fly.
• 1:43:03
  In. The.
• 1:43:06
  Right boys, Thanks. Take it easy.
• 1:43:11
  Good luck training. Talk to the outro.
• 1:43:15
  Close is easy double. Every week runner talking way
• 1:43:19
  too deep here. Play lock in your part of the
• 1:43:21
  crew. This is easy.
• 1:43:22
  Double welcome to you this. Is easy double welcome to you.
• 1:43:37
  This is easy trouble. 1.3 debates on shoes and.
• 1:43:40
  Carbon plates. Is it threshold or just steady
• 1:43:42
  pace? World champs, trials.
• 1:43:44
  Who's in shape, who's peaking early, who's late to the gate?
• 1:43:47
  Storage from sessions that nearly broke us and races that
• 1:43:49
  taught us patients to focus serious goals.
• 1:43:51
  But we keep it light because run is better when it's shed, right?
• 1:43:54
  No egos, no smoke, just miles and true from club runners up to
• 1:43:57
  the world class music. You're chasing times.
• 1:43:59
  You're just chasing fun. You're already winning if you
• 1:44:01
  started the run. Easy Double S Hit grippy
• 1:44:05
  headphones on where you should put your feet.
• 1:44:07
  We're miles of the commute Blues.
• 1:44:08
  We're right there running alongside you.
• 1:44:10
  Easy double. Same old crew.
• 1:44:12
  Deanie. Join Ryan's walking the dude
• 1:44:14
  from the first warm up to the final bell.
• 1:44:16
  This is easy, double and you're doing it well.
• 1:44:24
  This is easy double welcome to you doing it well, brain enough.
• 1:44:39
  Check, go, run.