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Who Does God Say You Are? | FT JD Fomby | EP174 · Jess Ask

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  Speaker 1: Yo, it's your girl Jessica S. Smith, and you already
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  Speaker 1: know that you've.
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  Speaker 2: Entered the safe space for influencers to decompress, have fun,
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  Speaker 2: and just ask. If you already know what it is,
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  Speaker 2: then you know it's about to get real.
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  Speaker 1: So be sure to show your girls some love and like, comment,
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  Speaker 1: and subscribe.
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  Speaker 3: I know we could be another way.
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  Speaker 4: It's a new week at Just Ask the Podcast, the
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  Speaker 4: safe space where transparency meets transformation.
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  Speaker 1: It's your girl, Jessica S. Smith, and I do nothing
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  Speaker 1: without my girl, Desiree. Desiree, Desiree, Desiree, Desiree, Desiree, Desiree.
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  Speaker 4: You have to click on the screen again and then
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  Speaker 4: press the button. Click the screen, then press the button.
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  Speaker 4: Come on, studio manager, you better teach me today. Say
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  Speaker 4: it with me. Teach me. Click the screen, press the button, okay?
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  Speaker 4: Can y'all see here Desiree?
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  Speaker 1: Say hello. Hello. How are you? I am fantastic. How
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  Speaker 1: are you, Jessica? I am blessed and highly favored. I
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  Speaker 1: am grateful.
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  Speaker 3: Yeah.
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  Speaker 1: I'm here.
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  Speaker 4: Yeah. I'm excited about today.
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  Speaker 1: You know, we don't know.
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  Speaker 4: I'm going to say buckle up, but a cup because
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  Speaker 4: I feel the help are already here.
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  Speaker 1: Man, I thought I knew the big question, right?
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  Speaker 4: Because, you know, the strategic Jessica, the marketplace Jessica wants
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  Speaker 4: to answer a big question, you know. But I really
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  Speaker 4: feel like we'll find that. I know what I wanted
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  Speaker 4: to say, but I want to give God room to
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  Speaker 4: say what he wants to say and how he wants
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  Speaker 4: to use this space.
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  Speaker 1: Because we've already talked to him this year. Yeah. We've
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  Speaker 1: already talked to our guests.
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  Speaker 4: This year and.
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  Speaker 1: We talked about what it meant to be a builder, right?
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  Speaker 1: Versus a dreamer.
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  Speaker 4: Right.
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  Speaker 1: Like, and I, that conversation conversated. No, it did. It conversated.
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  Speaker 1: It set the foundation in the trajectory of the year. Yeah.
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  Speaker 4: And then suddenly there was a shift and this person,
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  Speaker 4: I'm just glad this man of God is here. So
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  Speaker 4: we're bringing back my spiritual leader. We call each other.
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  Speaker 4: He's like, I don't know what to call myself. Your brother,
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  Speaker 4: your uncle, your friend, your daddy. But he is very
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  Speaker 4: when I say he's the gift that keeps on giving
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  Speaker 4: his life, he's meant to be here. OK, and I'm
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  Speaker 4: really excited to hear from him again. I'm glad that
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  Speaker 4: he's here on Earth because there could have been another way.
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  Speaker 4: And so I present to some and introduce to others.
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  Speaker 5: The one, the only, the biggest, the largest, J.D.
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  Speaker 1: Fumbe.
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  Speaker 5: What's good, man? You are crazy. I hope at this
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  Speaker 5: point you're getting prescribed.
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  Speaker 1: I need a prescription, bro.
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  Speaker 3: I need a prescription. If you are, we're going to
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  Speaker 3: increase that dosage. We're going to need to go up
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  Speaker 3: at least 10 milligrams. 10 milligrams for sure.
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  Speaker 1: I need something for sure. Me and my therapist was like, girl,
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  Speaker 1: you ain't got no insurance no more, so if anything happen,
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  Speaker 1: we got to figure it out. What is it? The Rx?
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  Speaker 1: What is that website, Rx, where you can get the
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  Speaker 1: discount on the medicine?
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  Speaker 4: Oh, is that? Oh, yeah.
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  Speaker 1: That's a real thing?
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  Speaker 3: I definitely need to send that to your boy. Oh,
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  Speaker 3: I can send it to you.
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  Speaker 5: You know, I got a couple of ailments coming up.
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  Speaker 5: Send it your boy away I can.
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  Speaker 4: Use it Talking about ailments Coach you weren't supposed to
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  Speaker 4: be here In layman's terms Yeah You don't supposed to
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  Speaker 4: be here. So I want to give people, we have
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  Speaker 4: to link the first episode that we did this year.
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  Speaker 1: It was just this year because this is your third time.
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  Speaker 1: Oh my gosh.
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  Speaker 4: Second.
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  Speaker 1: No, it's your third. Your third time.
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  Speaker 4: This year?
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  Speaker 1: No, not this year.
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  Speaker 5: Oh yeah, third time.
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  Speaker 4: On the podcast.
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  Speaker 3: Oh yeah, yeah, yeah.
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  Speaker 1: I'm about to say, bro, did it take your mind too?
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  Speaker 4: No, no, no, no.
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  Speaker 1: For a minute. Yes.
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  Speaker 4: Yeah, it did.
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  Speaker 3: Definitely took my mind. But no, this is my third time.
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  Speaker 1: This is your third time.
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  Speaker 3: This is wild.
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  Speaker 4: Ooh. So the first time we talked about an accident,
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  Speaker 4: the accident that was also supposed to take you out.
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  Speaker 1: Right.
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  Speaker 4: Then we talked about in January about building. Right.
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  Speaker 1: But in February.
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  Speaker 3: It's so wild.
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  Speaker 4: In February, so let's catch the people up for people
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  Speaker 4: that don't know. What happened from our conversation in January?
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  Speaker 3: It was like the first week, wasn't it?
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  Speaker 1: Bruh, you were the first episode. It was technically December,
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  Speaker 1: but it aired in January. Yeah, it aired in January.
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  Speaker 1: Thank you, producer. Thank you, Jay Z.
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  Speaker 3: Thank you for letting us know what goes on behind
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  Speaker 3: the scenes. We appreciate it.
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  Speaker 1: Thank you.
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  Speaker 3: Thank you so much.
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  Speaker 1: But you almost died this year.
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  Speaker 3: Yes. Technically, I did.
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  Speaker 1: You did, yeah. Yeah.
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  Speaker 5: Which is, it's wild to say, it's wild to think
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  Speaker 5: about because, you know, like I remember I've watched, you know,
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  Speaker 5: the podcast when I was on here in January and
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  Speaker 5: I watched that a couple of times and I was,
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  Speaker 5: you know, I've watched it after I've came back, right,
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  Speaker 5: to this earthly realm and never thought I would have
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  Speaker 5: that testimony, by the way, but I've watched it and
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  Speaker 5: I was looking at it and I'm like, dude, you
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  Speaker 5: had no idea.
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  Speaker 3: Like, in just like a month or so, what was
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  Speaker 3: about to happen.
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  Speaker 5: And I think that with whatever I was saying at
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  Speaker 5: the time when I was on here, it was definitely,
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  Speaker 5: you know, God-inspired.
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  Speaker 3: It was God-led.
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  Speaker 5: It was a lot of experience and different things that
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  Speaker 5: I had. But there is a specific way that God
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  Speaker 5: has ordained me to be here in this earth.
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  Speaker 1: Mm-hmm.
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  Speaker 5: And I've always ran from it to a certain degree
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  Speaker 5: because I've been blessed to be pretty witty. I can
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  Speaker 5: catch on pretty well. I'm genuinely, I can understand concepts
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  Speaker 5: of different things. So I've been always able to sort
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  Speaker 5: of chameleon myself and adapt to whatever environment that I
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  Speaker 5: needed to. But there is a specific anointing and specific
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  Speaker 5: purpose for a specific time that God has put me
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  Speaker 5: here for that I always felt. but I didn't necessarily
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  Speaker 5: want to, like, walk in it.
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  Speaker 3: I didn't want to accept it fully.
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  Speaker 1: Did you at least know what it was?
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  Speaker 5: I would say I knew to a degree, which means
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  Speaker 5: that I knew that if I, I knew I was, like,
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  Speaker 5: a prophet of God, and I knew I was called
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  Speaker 5: by God, but I didn't understand the parameters of, like, okay,
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  Speaker 5: why me? Especially after I had went through a lot
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  Speaker 5: of things that I went through, you know, getting married early,
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  Speaker 5: getting divorced. And then it was just like, I was like, yo,
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  Speaker 5: I'm just going to, you know, live my life the
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  Speaker 5: way I kind of wanted to. And I just wanted success.
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  Speaker 5: So success became like my God, my idol for a
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  Speaker 5: long time. And I experienced success early in different things,
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  Speaker 5: lost it all, gained it back, lost it all. So
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  Speaker 5: I went through that cycle, but I never wanted to
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  Speaker 5: accept like to live in purpose. And I think that
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  Speaker 5: that's the biggest thing. People, sometimes you tie success to
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  Speaker 5: your purpose, but a lot of people sometimes don't understand
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  Speaker 5: that when you walk in purpose, you're actually walking into
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  Speaker 5: your success. And so to me, I think I had
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  Speaker 5: it backwards in the way that I viewed it just
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  Speaker 5: throughout my journey. And so when I was on your podcast,
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  Speaker 5: it was more so You know, I've done great things.
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  Speaker 3: You know, shout out to my wife.
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  Speaker 1: Yeah, y'all like on a real high. Like workforce development.
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  Speaker 4: Yeah, we've done a lot. Y'all are known. And not
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  Speaker 4: just in the state of Alabama. People are knowing you
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  Speaker 4: guys for the work that you guys are doing for
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  Speaker 4: the workforce. And that's from a stance of y'all had
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  Speaker 4: to build. Like this is for y'all that's not caught up.
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  Speaker 1: Yeah. you built this by hand.
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  Speaker 3: Yeah, you seen it. Literally. You seen it literally come to, like,
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  Speaker 3: that's crazy.
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  Speaker 1: Like, the testimony, so it was like testimony after testimony
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  Speaker 1: after trial after trial.
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  Speaker 3: Right.
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  Speaker 4: This, and then now, for me, this is just outside
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  Speaker 4: looking in, February hits, and this, in my opinion, has
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  Speaker 4: been the biggest knockout.
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  Speaker 3: It has.
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  Speaker 5: It changed the fabric of our family. It changed the
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  Speaker 5: fabric of, my wife and I, our relationship. And it
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  Speaker 5: just put a new scope, a new lens on the
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  Speaker 5: way that I see the world. And I think that
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  Speaker 5: that's the way God wanted it for me, but I
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  Speaker 5: didn't want to walk in it. So the craziest part,
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  Speaker 5: I think, is his hand to be on me to
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  Speaker 5: allow me to be here. That's the that's the craziest part.
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  Speaker 5: Cause like to be on life support and then come
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  Speaker 5: back from that, like you don't, you don't really think
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  Speaker 5: about it. And then just, I remember going through a
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  Speaker 5: lot of the surgery and then just a lot of
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  Speaker 5: the things like wanting, like being on Walker, all of
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  Speaker 5: this stuff. And you know, when you guys, which by
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  Speaker 5: the way, I just want to say thank you to.
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  Speaker 3: You and Desiree.
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  Speaker 5: You guys have no idea that day when you guys
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  Speaker 5: came and visited me, man, like just the joy and
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  Speaker 5: the strength that you guys brought to me in a
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  Speaker 5: moment and in a place where I did not know
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  Speaker 5: what was going to happen in my future. I had
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  Speaker 5: no clue how I was going to come back. You believe,
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  Speaker 5: you hope, right? But when you're in it in the
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  Speaker 5: thick of something like that, like, let's be real, even
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  Speaker 5: Jesus in the moment in the Garden of Gethsemane, he
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  Speaker 5: showed his humanity because he said, Lord, if it be possible,
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  Speaker 5: let this bitter cup pass from me. And I think
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  Speaker 5: that verse is very powerful because it shows that the
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  Speaker 5: pressure and sometimes the reality of what we go through
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  Speaker 5: in life is very real. But then he says, nevertheless,
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  Speaker 5: for this reason came I into the world. Nevertheless, not
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  Speaker 5: my will, but your will be done.
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  Speaker 3: I'm paraphrasing.
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  Speaker 5: But I think that that showed that in those moments,
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  Speaker 5: sometimes it's very real to not know or feel the
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  Speaker 5: pressure like, I'm not even sure how I'm going to
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  Speaker 5: get through this.
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  Speaker 3: And that was a real moment.
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  Speaker 5: So when you guys came up in there, y'all just
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  Speaker 5: cutting up just like y'all do. You know what I'm saying?
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  Speaker 5: I couldn't move like I really could. We was over
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  Speaker 5: there singing and dancing. I'm moving like on the walk
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  Speaker 5: a little bit.
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  Speaker 4: But no, what blessed me about that moment was, what
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  Speaker 4: blessed me about that moment, I'll never forget. You said
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  Speaker 4: in that moment while we were singing, you was like, oh,
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  Speaker 4: I'm feeling better. Oh, yeah.
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  Speaker 1: Like, you was like, oh, I feel better. I feel better.
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  Speaker 3: Since I laid my burdens out.
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  Speaker 4: And you was like, oh, I feel, I feel, like,
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  Speaker 4: you was like, I feel something. I was like, because
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  Speaker 4: in that moment, you had just been laying down. You
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  Speaker 4: didn't expect us to come. Right, right, right. Or whatever.
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  Speaker 4: But it was in that moment where I realized how
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  Speaker 4: important for us, sharpening.
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  Speaker 1: Iron doesn't just mean rebuking each other.
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  Speaker 4: Yeah. Sharpening iron doesn't just mean, you know, let me fix. No,
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  Speaker 4: sharpening iron means I'm present in the time that you
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  Speaker 4: can't be present for yourself.
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  Speaker 2: Wow.
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  Speaker 4: You get what I'm saying? So that was an honor.
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  Speaker 4: So I know we're saying a lot of it's and
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  Speaker 4: when it happened or whatever. So what day was February?
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  Speaker 3: 16th or 17th.
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  Speaker 1: Okay, I was going to say, I almost said 15th.
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  Speaker 3: Might have been. I'm not sure.
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  Speaker 1: It was that week.
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  Speaker 3: That week.
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  Speaker 1: It was that week.
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  Speaker 3: Right. It's all a blur.
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  Speaker 1: It's all a.
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  Speaker 3: Blur at this point.
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  Speaker 4: So take us back to the day that transpired and
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  Speaker 4: you died.
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  Speaker 3: So....
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  Speaker 5: After the initial impact, my car lost control.
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  Speaker 3: Car hit the tree. What were you doing?
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  Speaker 1: Take us back to what you were doing. So you
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  Speaker 1: got up that morning.
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  Speaker 5: Went to church. Had a great day. It's one of
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  Speaker 5: those things like you can't see it coming. Because there's
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  Speaker 5: nothing that has a sign. There's no sign of it.
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  Speaker 5: There's no direction. And that's why... I tell people now, like,
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  Speaker 5: only what you do for Christ will last. I know
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  Speaker 5: that seems sort of redundant. And we have so much now,
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  Speaker 5: especially with the advancement of technology and just the access of,
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  Speaker 5: you know, so many things, so many options today. God
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  Speaker 5: allowed me to see the other side and then come back.
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  Speaker 4: Mm-hmm.
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  Speaker 3: Like, I didn't think I would be one of those people.
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  Speaker 4: Mm-hmm.
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  Speaker 5: You know, you hear those people, you be like, okay, like,
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  Speaker 5: but nobody really ever knows.
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  Speaker 3: Yeah.
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  Speaker 5: You know, you just kind of listen to it and
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  Speaker 5: you have to choose to believe in what the person
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  Speaker 5: is saying is true or not.
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  Speaker 1: Mm-hmm.
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  Speaker 5: But to have an experience of that sort. So I'm
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  Speaker 5: going through today, fast forward just for time sake, like,
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  Speaker 5: after the initial impact, like, I don't, like, I didn't
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  Speaker 5: know I survived.
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  Speaker 2: Mm-hmm.
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  Speaker 3: And I think that's the craziest part because I.
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  Speaker 5: Only knew I survived when I came back to four
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  Speaker 5: or five.
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  Speaker 3: Days later in the hospital after the surgeries.
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  Speaker 5: But even in coming back, I was still seeing figures
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  Speaker 5: and there was writings on the ceiling that I was
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  Speaker 5: trying to take pictures. I'm like, y'all don't see that?
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  Speaker 5: Because I had just spent three days in a portion
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  Speaker 5: of hell that was.
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  Speaker 3: I can't really describe it because.
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  Speaker 5: it it's so real that it makes this world just
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  Speaker 5: kind of seem fabricated like a simulation now um i'm
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  Speaker 5: not affected by the things the same way that i
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  Speaker 5: used to be i don't think the same way that
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  Speaker 5: i used to be because when you see um the
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  Speaker 5: things and what god allowed me to to see and
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  Speaker 5: the only thing that saved me in that moment was
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  Speaker 5: the name of jesus which was crazy um but just
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  Speaker 5: trying to kind of construct at the same time. But
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  Speaker 5: I saw these abominations. That's the only way I can
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  Speaker 5: describe them. Like if you could put Hollywood's best work
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  Speaker 5: together and make something out of a Stephen King movie
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  Speaker 5: and like these entities that were malfigured, disformed, but the
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  Speaker 5: atmosphere of Jessica was so potent of evil. Like, you
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  Speaker 5: could almost, you could cut it with an, it was,
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  Speaker 5: it just, it was a feeling that was so eerie
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  Speaker 5: and it was so evil, but it was just normal
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  Speaker 5: for these things. It was like this one, like, imp-looking
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  Speaker 5: thing that walked around. It had, like, walked around on feet.
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  Speaker 5: That was the form, but it had human arms that was, like, long.
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  Speaker 5: Face wasn't really, like, the face you, like I said,
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  Speaker 5: Hollywood's best work, like, slimy hair that went this way,
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  Speaker 5: but teeth over here, seeing that.
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  Speaker 1: And this is why you're in hell.
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  Speaker 3: Yes.
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  Speaker 5: Like it was so, and it was just normal to them,
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  Speaker 5: but they're just like looking, walking past. And I'm just like,
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  Speaker 5: I can't even speak because it's.
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  Speaker 3: Like, what? Like, oh my God. Like, and I remember
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  Speaker 3: feeling hopeless. Oh my God.
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  Speaker 5: You don't understand when you, and that's what I'm telling people.
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  Speaker 5: Like now, whatever God is calling you, the Bible says
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  Speaker 5: the day that I knock on you, like I knock
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  Speaker 5: on the door of your heart, like heart and.
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  Speaker 3: Not your heart.
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  Speaker 5: Because the feeling, Jessica, of not knowing that I survived.
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  Speaker 5: So I think I'm already gone. But I'm actually out
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  Speaker 5: of body experience because I came back. There's recordings of
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  Speaker 5: different things of my wife telling me I'm talking to
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  Speaker 5: my kids. I got these tubes and stuff. I don't
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  Speaker 5: remember none of it. It takes seven people to hold
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  Speaker 5: me down. Seven people to hold me down after I'm
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  Speaker 5: trying to break free. I have scars everywhere. on my
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  Speaker 5: arm that are here because I ripped things off. I
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  Speaker 5: ripped the tube out of my throat. I don't remember
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  Speaker 5: none of that. I don't even remember that happening. I
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  Speaker 5: don't remember conversations.
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  Speaker 3: I wasn't here.
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  Speaker 1: But you're saying it's almost like that was happening while
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  Speaker 1: you were in hell.
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  Speaker 3: 100%.
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  Speaker 1: Because you were trying to get out?
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  Speaker 5: It was, it was things happening to me. So they
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  Speaker 5: were like trying to sacrifice me in this portion of hell. Like,
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  Speaker 5: it was like, I was, I was like next on
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  Speaker 5: like almost like an assembly line that I remember trying
• 17:14
  Speaker 5: to fight and I couldn't speak. So I was trying
• 17:16
  Speaker 5: to write. And at one point I saw my wife
• 17:19
  Speaker 5: and I was trying to tell her, I don't want
• 17:21
  Speaker 5: to do this so much so that the doctor here,
• 17:24
  Speaker 5: while they was there, they said, it looks like he's
• 17:26
  Speaker 5: trying to say something. We still have the paper where
• 17:28
  Speaker 5: they gave me a pen in the bed, and I
• 17:31
  Speaker 5: couldn't get it out. And I write, and they're like,
• 17:34
  Speaker 5: you don't what, JD? And I put, I don't. Like,
• 17:38
  Speaker 5: I'm writing it out, but I'm writing it where I
• 17:41
  Speaker 5: am in this portion of hell, and I'm trying to
• 17:43
  Speaker 5: write and tell them I don't want to do this.
• 17:46
  Speaker 5: And I don't get it all the way out, and
• 17:48
  Speaker 5: they say I just pass back out. But it came
• 17:51
  Speaker 5: my time to be sacrificed. And I remember when it
• 17:54
  Speaker 5: came my time, I remember, hallelujah, I remember just mustering
• 17:59
  Speaker 5: every ounce of strength that I had and just like screaming, saying.
• 18:04
  Speaker 3: I believe in Jesus. I believe in Jesus.
• 18:07
  Speaker 5: And instantly everything changed. Instantly everything changed. I was in
• 18:14
  Speaker 5: another room and I had like this robe on. Like
• 18:17
  Speaker 5: if you could watch the show Chosen, like those robes.
• 18:20
  Speaker 5: I had like this robe on and like these sandals
• 18:23
  Speaker 5: and it was just, But it was nothing.
• 18:25
  Speaker 3: I didn't see.
• 18:26
  Speaker 5: Now, here's the crazy part. As much as I love God,
• 18:28
  Speaker 5: I'm grateful, and I'm so humbled to be here. I
• 18:31
  Speaker 5: didn't see one angel. I didn't talk to one heavenly host.
• 18:35
  Speaker 5: Didn't see no bright light. But I truly believe that
• 18:38
  Speaker 5: it's because had I seen it.
• 18:40
  Speaker 1: You would have stayed. That was literally my question.
• 18:44
  Speaker 4: Like, was there ever a point that you was like, God,
• 18:47
  Speaker 4: you could have just went ahead and took me on?
• 18:50
  Speaker 3: I think.
• 18:51
  Speaker 5: I think he showed me the opposite of what my
• 18:54
  Speaker 5: heart has always desired because he knew that I would
• 18:58
  Speaker 5: come back different and I would be able to minister
• 19:01
  Speaker 5: or talk or speak or encourage someone from a place
• 19:05
  Speaker 5: and be like, listen, you don't understand what comes after this.
• 19:11
  Speaker 5: I promise you, the torment that I was watching of
• 19:15
  Speaker 5: different entities, they was torturing like people and It was so, Jessica,
• 19:24
  Speaker 5: I don't have the words to fully describe it because
• 19:30
  Speaker 5: it would sound like I'm trying to create a plot
• 19:34
  Speaker 5: for a movie that is like otherworldly. But here's the
• 19:39
  Speaker 5: truth about it. The Bible says, I think in Hebrews 11,
• 19:41
  Speaker 5: he says, so then by faith we knew that the
• 19:43
  Speaker 5: worlds were framed. Let's stop right there. I'm going to
• 19:46
  Speaker 5: say it again. He said, then by faith we know
• 19:49
  Speaker 5: that the war were framed.
• 19:52
  Speaker 3: We live on one planet.
• 19:55
  Speaker 1: Yeah.
• 19:55
  Speaker 5: That the worlds were framed. The other side of what
• 20:02
  Speaker 5: we don't see in this world is so real. You
• 20:09
  Speaker 5: will have a different outlook if God ever allows you
• 20:13
  Speaker 5: to pull, like if he pulls the curtain back.
• 20:15
  Speaker 3: And here's the thing. There's the opposite side of it, too.
• 20:17
  Speaker 5: There's people that have experienced heaven on a very outer body,
• 20:22
  Speaker 5: like real outer body experience, and they minister from that place.
• 20:24
  Speaker 1: Yeah.
• 20:25
  Speaker 5: And that has been one to say, that's so crazy.
• 20:28
  Speaker 5: That's the one that got me. That was the one like,
• 20:30
  Speaker 5: I can't miss heaven.
• 20:31
  Speaker 1: Yeah.
• 20:32
  Speaker 3: So yeah, God sent me to hell. Wait a minute.
• 20:34
  Speaker 4: What?
• 20:35
  Speaker 1: But the thing is, also, I think also he trusted
• 20:37
  Speaker 1: you with hell.
• 20:39
  Speaker 3: Yo.
• 20:40
  Speaker 1: I think that's a different level of.
• 20:42
  Speaker 3: Way to look at it.
• 20:43
  Speaker 4: God saying, yeah, I couldn't trust that other person with
• 20:48
  Speaker 4: him because you had enough in me for you to.
• 20:49
  Speaker 1: Scream out Jesus. Mm. I never looked at it like that.
• 20:53
  Speaker 4: And so even with me thinking right now, I'm curious
• 20:56
  Speaker 4: to you.
• 20:57
  Speaker 1: Okay.
• 20:58
  Speaker 4: So I don't think we say this out loud. So
• 21:00
  Speaker 4: in February, he was in a car accident. It was
• 21:03
  Speaker 4: him by himself. You were trying to dodge.
• 21:06
  Speaker 1: A raccoon or some animal.
• 21:08
  Speaker 4: Some type of.
• 21:08
  Speaker 1: Barnyard or something. Something in the road.
• 21:10
  Speaker 3: Get it out the road. Come on, bro. Get it
• 21:12
  Speaker 3: out the road.
• 21:12
  Speaker 5: And I have one of them smart cars that has
• 21:16
  Speaker 5: the automatic adjust. So it, boom, hits everything. I try
• 21:21
  Speaker 5: to adjust. It snatched the wheel back from me. I
• 21:23
  Speaker 5: lose control. Boom. And that's what happened with the accident.
• 21:31
  Speaker 5: But when that happens, right, like I didn't even know.
• 21:36
  Speaker 5: They had to remove 100 centimeters of my intestine. So
• 21:40
  Speaker 5: I have a line now from here all the way
• 21:42
  Speaker 5: down starting at the top.
• 21:43
  Speaker 1: Of my pelvis. Because you were split open it seemed, right?
• 21:46
  Speaker 3: Yeah.
• 21:46
  Speaker 5: They split me open. They told my wife, oh, my goodness,
• 21:50
  Speaker 5: let me tell you something.
• 21:52
  Speaker 3: Choose your spouse carefully. Lord, I thank God for my wife.
• 21:57
  Speaker 4: Yeah.
• 21:58
  Speaker 5: I thank God for that woman. They immediately said, yeah,
• 22:00
  Speaker 5: he's going to have to be in a colostomy bag. Like,
• 22:03
  Speaker 5: he's going to, I could not imagine, Jessica, if I
• 22:06
  Speaker 5: had to live my life with a colostomy bag.
• 22:09
  Speaker 3: I could not imagine.
• 22:10
  Speaker 5: My heart goes out to people with any type of ailment,
• 22:13
  Speaker 5: but especially that, like, you have to carry waste with you, right?
• 22:17
  Speaker 1: Mm-hmm.
• 22:19
  Speaker 3: And I did not even, I couldn't understand. My wife
• 22:24
  Speaker 3: went to praying.
• 22:25
  Speaker 1: And had all of us praying.
• 22:28
  Speaker 5: She had a whole prayer chain, which, listen, and by
• 22:30
  Speaker 5: the way, if anybody who knew about it who prayed
• 22:32
  Speaker 5: for me, I appreciate it. I thank you. Your prayers
• 22:35
  Speaker 5: were heard because here I am. And I promise you,
• 22:37
  Speaker 5: if you did not hear, if you didn't know, then
• 22:39
  Speaker 5: I don't look anything like what I've been through. And
• 22:42
  Speaker 5: that's nothing but the grace of God. So if you
• 22:44
  Speaker 5: send a prayer, send a hallelujah. Thank you, Lord.
• 22:46
  Speaker 3: Bless him, whatever you say. Thank you.
• 22:49
  Speaker 5: I appreciate it. But my wife told the doctor, she said,
• 22:54
  Speaker 5: I have looked you up. I know what you can do.
• 22:58
  Speaker 5: I know how great you are. She said, I need
• 23:01
  Speaker 5: you to work on him as if this was your husband.
• 23:05
  Speaker 3: On the table. Man, they went back. Let me tell
• 23:09
  Speaker 3: you something. Miracles were already happening.
• 23:12
  Speaker 5: While I was in there, they saw something on the x-ray,
• 23:14
  Speaker 5: so they had to take me back again because they're like, okay,
• 23:17
  Speaker 5: we got to do something else. Y'all, when they went back, see,
• 23:21
  Speaker 5: that's what I'm saying. When God's hand is on you
• 23:24
  Speaker 5: for something specific, he's going to make sure that you
• 23:29
  Speaker 5: fulfill it. You can fulfill it willingly or unwillingly, but
• 23:32
  Speaker 5: he's going to get it out of you. They went
• 23:34
  Speaker 5: back and took me back to do the surgery to
• 23:37
  Speaker 5: take out what they saw on the x-ray. And they
• 23:40
  Speaker 5: had to come out and tell my wife. They said
• 23:41
  Speaker 5: we were back there for an extra 30 to 45
• 23:44
  Speaker 5: minutes inside of him looking for what we saw on
• 23:48
  Speaker 5: the x-ray. But when we opened them up, hallelujah, when
• 23:53
  Speaker 5: we opened them up, we could.
• 23:56
  Speaker 3: Not find what we saw.
• 23:59
  Speaker 1: Jesus.
• 24:01
  Speaker 3: Let me tell y'all something.
• 24:04
  Speaker 5: God is real. The invisible God is real. Let me
• 24:09
  Speaker 5: tell you how real it is. In Hebrews 11, it
• 24:13
  Speaker 5: also says that we know that the things that are
• 24:16
  Speaker 5: seen are made of the things that are unseen. Let's
• 24:19
  Speaker 5: just talk about this science for a minute, right? This table,
• 24:22
  Speaker 5: this mic, right? It's made of, you know, metal. This
• 24:26
  Speaker 5: is made of wood.
• 24:28
  Speaker 4: Is it?
• 24:28
  Speaker 3: That's what we see. It's made of matter. That's made
• 24:35
  Speaker 3: of molecules. That's made of atoms.
• 24:38
  Speaker 5: And if I had a telescope, a microscope to look,
• 24:42
  Speaker 5: the molecular molecules that make up this table look different
• 24:46
  Speaker 5: than the ones that make up this mic.
• 24:49
  Speaker 3: I can't see an atom. I can't see a nucleus.
• 24:53
  Speaker 5: I can't see a mitochondria unless I have a specialized telescope.
• 24:57
  Speaker 5: So then we walk by the spirit and live by
• 24:59
  Speaker 5: the spirit so we do not fulfill the lust of
• 25:01
  Speaker 5: the flesh. And walking by the spirit causes you to
• 25:05
  Speaker 5: have to look at life through a different lens. So
• 25:10
  Speaker 5: what we know is that the things that are seen
• 25:12
  Speaker 5: are made up of things that are unseen. So because
• 25:14
  Speaker 5: of that, what we see and what you may be facing,
• 25:18
  Speaker 5: what you may be going through, what you don't see
• 25:22
  Speaker 5: is what's really producing what we see. I don't think
• 25:25
  Speaker 5: I understood that for real until I understood the other
• 25:29
  Speaker 5: realm and then came back.
• 25:31
  Speaker 3: We think that taste, touch, see, feel, hear. Like, it's
• 25:34
  Speaker 3: so real. We taste it.
• 25:35
  Speaker 4: It's good.
• 25:36
  Speaker 3: You have smells. You have different things. If you're blessed
• 25:38
  Speaker 3: to have your five senses, it is a blessing. Yeah.
• 25:40
  Speaker 5: But at the same time, don't get it twisted. This
• 25:44
  Speaker 5: is a production line of what has already happened in
• 25:48
  Speaker 5: the spiritual aspect.
• 25:49
  Speaker 1: Yeah.
• 25:50
  Speaker 5: Which he said, when you pray, pray, our Father which
• 25:54
  Speaker 5: art in heaven, hallowed be thy name. Thy kingdom come.
• 25:57
  Speaker 5: Thy will be done on earth.
• 25:58
  Speaker 1: As it is.
• 25:59
  Speaker 3: Say it again.
• 25:59
  Speaker 1: As it is in heaven.
• 26:00
  Speaker 3: As it already is in heaven.
• 26:02
  Speaker 5: Which means that if there's anything I'm looking for, anything
• 26:05
  Speaker 5: that I need, I just have to get an alignment
• 26:07
  Speaker 5: with what has already happened, what I can't see. So
• 26:12
  Speaker 5: I heard, I think it was Myron Golden say this.
• 26:14
  Speaker 5: He was like, what color is an idea?
• 26:22
  Speaker 3: You tell me. How much does an idea weigh?
• 26:23
  Speaker 2: Jesus.
• 26:26
  Speaker 5: What is the shape of an idea? But this microphone
• 26:30
  Speaker 5: was an idea. So then by faith, we know that
• 26:33
  Speaker 5: the things that are seen are made up of the
• 26:35
  Speaker 5: things that are unseen. The Bible says, serve the Lord
• 26:37
  Speaker 5: your God with all your heart, all your soul, all
• 26:39
  Speaker 5: your mind, and all your strength. There is something that
• 26:44
  Speaker 5: we will have to answer to that we cannot see
• 26:47
  Speaker 5: right now. And I'm telling you, Jess, the way that
• 26:51
  Speaker 5: I see the world My purpose. So after I come
• 26:54
  Speaker 5: back from this entire experience, now I'm like, Lord, you
• 27:00
  Speaker 5: have to reveal to me what my true purpose is,
• 27:02
  Speaker 5: because I know this isn't normal. What did you leave
• 27:05
  Speaker 5: me here for? Like, what did you bring me back for?
• 27:07
  Speaker 5: I'm grateful, but I will not take another step outside
• 27:10
  Speaker 5: your will.
• 27:11
  Speaker 3: I won't. I cannot.
• 27:13
  Speaker 5: I don't even want to because I've seen too much
• 27:16
  Speaker 5: and I can't really describe and really understand. transcribe to
• 27:21
  Speaker 5: anybody the realness of what I felt and what I've seen.
• 27:24
  Speaker 5: It's only like you can choose to believe or you
• 27:26
  Speaker 5: can choose not to.
• 27:26
  Speaker 1: Yeah.
• 27:27
  Speaker 3: But either way, I promise you, there's something on the
• 27:30
  Speaker 3: other side.
• 27:30
  Speaker 4: Yeah.
• 27:31
  Speaker 5: And so for me, God had to get me to
• 27:34
  Speaker 5: a place to where now I live.
• 27:37
  Speaker 3: So you may see the same, J.D.
• 27:39
  Speaker 1: Yeah.
• 27:40
  Speaker 3: Oh, but I've been transfigured.
• 27:42
  Speaker 1: What's the difference between transfigured and transformed?
• 27:45
  Speaker 5: So transformed... is, and be not conformed to this, Romans
• 27:52
  Speaker 5: 12 and 2, and be not conformed to this world,
• 27:54
  Speaker 5: but be transformed, right, by the renewing of your mind.
• 27:58
  Speaker 3: Right? Okay.
• 28:00
  Speaker 5: So I feel like transformation comes with a constant mind renewal.
• 28:03
  Speaker 1: Okay.
• 28:04
  Speaker 2: Right?
• 28:05
  Speaker 5: Transformation happens mentally. A transfiguration happens, like, spiritually mentally. within
• 28:13
  Speaker 5: the constraints of who you are and how you're put together.
• 28:16
  Speaker 5: And I put it like this. The reason I say transfigure,
• 28:19
  Speaker 5: my physiology is different than yours now. I don't process
• 28:23
  Speaker 5: things the same way physically, even though I look the
• 28:28
  Speaker 5: exact same. So the transfiguration for me happened physically, even
• 28:34
  Speaker 5: though you can't see it readily to me. And I
• 28:37
  Speaker 5: feel like the transfiguration was because the way that I
• 28:40
  Speaker 5: have to process my life comes to where I literally
• 28:46
  Speaker 5: wake up and every step I take is.
• 28:49
  Speaker 3: By his grace. You don't understand. You don't understand. Hallelujah. Hallelujah.
• 28:55
  Speaker 5: When every step you take and every breath that you breathe,
• 29:00
  Speaker 5: you know it's by his grace. Every step, because I
• 29:06
  Speaker 5: was reading Jeremiah 30 and 17, and I will bring
• 29:09
  Speaker 5: healing I will bring you back to health and I
• 29:12
  Speaker 5: will bring healing to your wounds.
• 29:15
  Speaker 3: And I had to read that when I'm.
• 29:18
  Speaker 5: 140 something pounds because I've lost like 40 something pounds
• 29:21
  Speaker 5: because I can't, they had to take, like I said,
• 29:25
  Speaker 5: my intestines out. Like something happened with my carotid artery,
• 29:28
  Speaker 5: the carotid artery with the seatbelt. Like one of the
• 29:32
  Speaker 5: screws that was in my back.
• 29:34
  Speaker 3: Supposedly like now.
• 29:35
  Speaker 5: Now is pushing into my muscle because it went out
• 29:37
  Speaker 5: of my spot my physiology is different so the grace
• 29:42
  Speaker 5: and the faith that i have to walk by every
• 29:45
  Speaker 5: day causes me to see the world so differently but
• 29:49
  Speaker 5: what it does it allows me to understand that the
• 29:53
  Speaker 5: power that God has, that we cannot see, that we
• 29:58
  Speaker 5: choose to sometimes look at what we're seeing and tell
• 30:00
  Speaker 5: that that situation is about to overcome us. He said that, behold,
• 30:06
  Speaker 5: now I give you power over all the power of
• 30:09
  Speaker 5: the devil. And through Christ, I can do all things.
• 30:13
  Speaker 5: That is so real to me because I have to
• 30:16
  Speaker 5: literally look at an x-ray or hear a report and say,
• 30:19
  Speaker 5: but through Christ, I can do all things and then
• 30:22
  Speaker 5: I can go do them.
• 30:24
  Speaker 3: I can go back now. I still can do one
• 30:26
  Speaker 3: handed pushups. Seven months later, I.
• 30:30
  Speaker 5: Still can do workouts that I probably shouldn't be able
• 30:33
  Speaker 5: to do.
• 30:34
  Speaker 3: It's not by my might, but.
• 30:37
  Speaker 5: It's a power that's within me because it's an encouragement
• 30:41
  Speaker 5: to anybody that it doesn't matter what you feel or
• 30:44
  Speaker 5: how you may look at the situation you're looking at now.
• 30:48
  Speaker 5: But then by faith, we know that the things that
• 30:49
  Speaker 5: are seen are made up of the things that are unseen.
• 30:52
  Speaker 5: The unseen God that has all power literally permeates through
• 30:57
  Speaker 5: my veins on a daily basis to where I have
• 31:01
  Speaker 5: to think and process life different. And I'm not saying
• 31:05
  Speaker 5: I'm the only one, but I am saying that how
• 31:09
  Speaker 5: he has put me in people's lives, I have a
• 31:12
  Speaker 5: very unique way now that I understand my purpose very keenly.
• 31:16
  Speaker 5: That when someone cross paths with me now, it is
• 31:20
  Speaker 5: very intentional that I be the voice and the breath
• 31:24
  Speaker 5: of God for them in that moment because I've seen
• 31:27
  Speaker 5: God on another realm. And I don't know where or what,
• 31:31
  Speaker 5: but I have a different way that I hear now.
• 31:33
  Speaker 5: I have a different way that I process life and
• 31:37
  Speaker 5: different things now. So however I need to be the
• 31:40
  Speaker 5: translation bridge or the conduit, it's literally my job that,
• 31:45
  Speaker 5: because every, like I said, everything that he does for
• 31:47
  Speaker 5: me is by his grace, but I know it's not
• 31:50
  Speaker 5: for me. It's for his people. Peter, lovest thou me? Yes, Lord,
• 31:54
  Speaker 5: you know I love you. He says, feed my sheep.
• 31:56
  Speaker 5: And for me, there is a, a specific time and
• 32:00
  Speaker 5: a purpose and an anointing God has placed on my
• 32:02
  Speaker 5: life that has to come to pass, but it's not
• 32:06
  Speaker 5: for me. It's for the people that he wants to
• 32:08
  Speaker 5: reach through me.
• 32:09
  Speaker 4: I think that's a, that's an important point that connects
• 32:13
  Speaker 4: to something that you said before that I want to
• 32:14
  Speaker 4: kind of dig into. Um, before this happened, um, even
• 32:20
  Speaker 4: I guess in the in-between and what I mean by
• 32:23
  Speaker 4: in-between from first car accident to second car accident, um,
• 32:28
  Speaker 4: There's a lot of transition, a lot that's transpired, but
• 32:32
  Speaker 4: you know you have this anointing, you know you have
• 32:33
  Speaker 4: this call. Now on the opposite end of the second,
• 32:39
  Speaker 4: the response is whatever you want.
• 32:41
  Speaker 1: You can use it.
• 32:43
  Speaker 4: But at one point, you weren't comfortable. You knew something
• 32:46
  Speaker 4: was there, but you ran away from it. But now
• 32:51
  Speaker 4: on this end, you're doing it. I need to go
• 32:53
  Speaker 4: back to where the fear is because I know me
• 32:55
  Speaker 4: and Desiree were just talking about you know, the.
• 32:58
  Speaker 1: Anointing and making people feel comfortable.
• 33:00
  Speaker 4: And I know me and you, you know, we lock
• 33:02
  Speaker 4: in and we have like a lot of things in
• 33:05
  Speaker 4: common when it comes to the people of the world saying,
• 33:09
  Speaker 4: I know you know the Lord, but I.
• 33:10
  Speaker 1: Can hang with you.
• 33:11
  Speaker 3: You know what I'm saying?
• 33:12
  Speaker 4: I personally still kind of like struggle with saying, you know,
• 33:16
  Speaker 4: I'm not just talking right now.
• 33:18
  Speaker 1: This is a prophetic. I don't know how to explain
• 33:21
  Speaker 1: this to you. And it's not that I'm ashamed, but really.
• 33:26
  Speaker 4: Trying to see what my relationship is with the anointing, right?
• 33:30
  Speaker 4: And so for people that are struggling, migrating or maneuvering
• 33:35
  Speaker 4: in this world, talking to different people, encountering different people,
• 33:39
  Speaker 4: trying to be in the marketplace or being in the marketplace,
• 33:42
  Speaker 4: being liked in the marketplace, but I got this anointing
• 33:46
  Speaker 4: that is here that I'm not in full relationship with
• 33:50
  Speaker 4: yet because I haven't fully accepted it, I'm fearful of it. Like,
• 33:55
  Speaker 4: What would you say to that person now that you've
• 33:57
  Speaker 4: overcome that?
• 34:01
  Speaker 5: That's a very good question. I think the first thing
• 34:04
  Speaker 5: it starts with is.
• 34:07
  Speaker 3: Obedience.
• 34:10
  Speaker 5: And what I mean by obedience is, see, when you
• 34:19
  Speaker 5: learn and you know that there's something on your life,
• 34:23
  Speaker 5: The thing that God, I mean, the thing that the
• 34:25
  Speaker 5: enemy is going to try you with probably the most
• 34:27
  Speaker 5: is the obedience. He tried everybody with, like, the obedience of, like,
• 34:31
  Speaker 5: doing what God said or doing it the way that
• 34:33
  Speaker 5: they wanted. Saul, I want you to go and totally
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  Speaker 5: destroy these people. He obeyed, but he did it the
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  Speaker 5: way he wanted. Abraham, though, did it in full obedience.
• 34:45
  Speaker 5: I want you to sacrifice your son, right? So I
• 34:48
  Speaker 5: think that the way that we have to understand God
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  Speaker 5: our relationship with obedience is because when God has put
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  Speaker 5: something on your life and he's called you to something,
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  Speaker 5: you feel it, but you also know that you have
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  Speaker 5: a gift to be in the marketplace. So you have a,
• 35:04
  Speaker 5: a great relational type personality. So people relate to you well,
• 35:08
  Speaker 5: and you can, you still have that way where you
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  Speaker 5: want to kind of be in the, I would say,
• 35:15
  Speaker 5: I don't say be in the crowd, but it's just
• 35:17
  Speaker 5: like the way you've, you've kind of gathered. I would,
• 35:20
  Speaker 5: I would say that you would, The obedience starts with
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  Speaker 5: wanting to please God. And then you have to look
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  Speaker 5: at what has, like, the person that you are that
• 35:32
  Speaker 5: has these different aspects, right? Who made that identity? How
• 35:37
  Speaker 5: did you come to be that person? Because the truth
• 35:42
  Speaker 5: be told, a mindset means that someone set your mind.
• 35:51
  Speaker 5: A mindset means that someone, something set your mind. So
• 36:01
  Speaker 5: is that really you? Or was your mindset set that way?
• 36:09
  Speaker 5: And now that you think that way, you believe that's
• 36:12
  Speaker 5: really who you are. So when I looked at it
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  Speaker 5: that way, I said, hmm. The mindset that I had
• 36:22
  Speaker 5: was because a lot of different things set the way
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  Speaker 5: that I moved. A lot of different situations, sometimes failures,
• 36:30
  Speaker 5: sometimes successes. These things set a precedence in your mind
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  Speaker 5: for what you believe that you are. But the Bible
• 36:40
  Speaker 5: says our identities are what? Hidden in Christ. So you
• 36:50
  Speaker 5: have to start to ask God, Lord, who, oh, hallelujah. Lord,
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  Speaker 5: who do you, hallelujah, I feel the Holy Ghost. Who
• 36:58
  Speaker 5: did you create me to be? Oh, and when he
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  Speaker 5: begins to peel that back, you begin to see the
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  Speaker 5: different situations that set your mind up to believe that
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  Speaker 5: you're this way because, you know, that's how I am, really.
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  Speaker 3: Is that how you are?
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  Speaker 5: Or is that how you were set up to believe
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  Speaker 5: that you are? Because If my identity is hid in Christ,
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  Speaker 5: I have to find a way to start to seek him,
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  Speaker 5: that his voice and direction become so clear back to
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  Speaker 5: the beginning that the obedience becomes a muscle memory. See,
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  Speaker 5: right now, you maybe don't feel like going to the
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  Speaker 5: gym all the time, but you have experienced results that
• 37:42
  Speaker 5: now the obedience beyond the discomfort has yielded results that
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  Speaker 5: it set your mind so your mindset has come from
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  Speaker 5: the obedience of going through a disc like the discomfort
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  Speaker 5: of what you had to go through but the result
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  Speaker 5: of what was taking place before you saw it hallelujah
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  Speaker 5: before you saw it outwardly it was changing inwardly and
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  Speaker 5: the problem is sometimes is when we're fighting with We
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  Speaker 5: know there's something prophetic or how do I be in
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  Speaker 5: the marketplace?
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  Speaker 3: And then how do I do this at the same time?
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  Speaker 3: How do I still keep this relationship?
• 38:23
  Speaker 5: The problem is we have not yet yielded to the
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  Speaker 5: muscle memory obedience that is necessary for the revealing of
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  Speaker 5: the true identity of who we are in Christ. And
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  Speaker 5: that's understandable because that takes a lot of combing back
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  Speaker 5: through sometimes trauma. Be careful when you start to go back.
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  Speaker 5: Because now you got to reveal some stuff that you
• 38:45
  Speaker 5: didn't even know why you were the way you were. Listen,
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  Speaker 5: let me tell you something that was so powerful. My pastor,
• 38:53
  Speaker 5: Pastor Doug Taylor, he's.
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  Speaker 3: Super dope, man.
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  Speaker 1: He's funny.
• 38:56
  Speaker 3: He's super dope. He's hilarious, too.
• 38:59
  Speaker 5: He said a lot of times, it was so powerful
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  Speaker 5: when I heard that, I said, wow. He said the
• 39:02
  Speaker 5: problem sometimes with you trying to construct a new way
• 39:05
  Speaker 5: of thinking is because you have yet to do deconstruction.
• 39:09
  Speaker 3: See, when you're.
• 39:10
  Speaker 5: Building a framework on top of a frame that's already built,
• 39:15
  Speaker 5: you're trying to add something that should have never been
• 39:18
  Speaker 5: there in the first place. So the deconstruction sometimes has
• 39:21
  Speaker 5: to happen first so that you can construct the way
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  Speaker 5: that you need to be. And then God will reveal
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  Speaker 5: it to you. But sometimes the deconstructing does the deconstruction.
• 39:30
  Speaker 5: does come with letting go of sometimes relationships that I thought, well,
• 39:34
  Speaker 5: I've always been this way, but that's not how God
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  Speaker 5: made you. That was a set mind that was set
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  Speaker 5: in you because of your parents.
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  Speaker 4: Hmm.
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  Speaker 5: Because of your friends, because of ridicule, sometimes because of
• 39:43
  Speaker 5: peer pressure, sometimes because now it's been a generational curse
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  Speaker 5: that has been followed. So you think that you're a
• 39:50
  Speaker 5: compilation of who you are by the time you get
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  Speaker 5: a certain age. But the truth is God is constantly
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  Speaker 5: calling us to a place in him that reveals the
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  Speaker 5: identity that he wants for us, not the one that
• 40:05
  Speaker 5: we have sort of constructed or set for ourselves. So
• 40:09
  Speaker 5: I would encourage that person to begin to sort of
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  Speaker 5: deconstruct who they are based off of who set your
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  Speaker 5: mind that said you were that way, what made you
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  Speaker 5: that way. And then by answering those questions, you begin
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  Speaker 5: to really understand that some of these things that shape
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  Speaker 5: us or some of the way that we are, it's
• 40:27
  Speaker 5: not that we were always meant to be that way.
• 40:30
  Speaker 5: So then we find out through our seeking Christ that
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  Speaker 5: the way that we should be is in the way
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  Speaker 5: that he created us because we're all unique for a
• 40:40
  Speaker 5: unique specific purpose. But sometimes finding that it takes a
• 40:45
  Speaker 5: lot of diving into who God has called us to
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  Speaker 5: be and that takes a deconstruction. And I feel like
• 40:52
  Speaker 5: that's kind of what happened with me. Like God took
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  Speaker 5: away certain things from me and he deconstructed me that
• 41:01
  Speaker 5: now that I've been put back together, Oh, I know
• 41:05
  Speaker 5: exactly who I am in Christ. And some of the
• 41:08
  Speaker 5: ways that I might have been was not the way
• 41:10
  Speaker 5: that he had designed for me to be.
• 41:12
  Speaker 1: What were some of those ways?
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  Speaker 3: Oh, man.
• 41:15
  Speaker 5: Very, very strong will in the way that I saw something.
• 41:20
  Speaker 5: My will was so strong that it was hard to
• 41:26
  Speaker 5: move what I believed or how I saw it. I
• 41:30
  Speaker 5: was very stubborn.
• 41:33
  Speaker 4: Very.
• 41:35
  Speaker 5: prideful in my stubbornness because I had experience to vouch
• 41:41
  Speaker 5: for why I was stubborn. And it's so crazy now
• 41:48
  Speaker 5: because looking back on it, it's like, man, I wish
• 41:51
  Speaker 5: I would have been more pliable. I wish I would
• 41:55
  Speaker 5: have been willing to unknow what I thought I knew.
• 42:00
  Speaker 5: But in that way, God had to break me down
• 42:06
  Speaker 5: to a very... I mean, you guys saw me in it.
• 42:08
  Speaker 5: I was so small, very frail to a certain degree.
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  Speaker 5: But it was in those moments that he was building
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  Speaker 5: me in the identity of who he called me to be.
• 42:19
  Speaker 5: And now who I am spiritually has really pushed and
• 42:24
  Speaker 5: pulled me to a different place to where I don't
• 42:27
  Speaker 5: really view anything before that as... I won't say I
• 42:33
  Speaker 5: don't view it. I don't look at it the same
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  Speaker 5: way that I did before that. Like I have a
• 42:38
  Speaker 5: different outlook on it. And I think that was necessary
• 42:42
  Speaker 5: for whomever I'm supposed to reach. So my full purpose
• 42:46
  Speaker 5: is like, people say they want to be a vessel
• 42:48
  Speaker 5: to be used by God, right?
• 42:50
  Speaker 3: But that comes with a cost.
• 42:54
  Speaker 5: So I think that that's something that I was like
• 42:57
  Speaker 5: willing to pay the cost, but if I didn't really
• 43:00
  Speaker 5: feel like it, At times, like I didn't want to
• 43:02
  Speaker 5: pay that cost.
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  Speaker 4: Listen, and then I know we talked about this on
• 43:07
  Speaker 4: the phone. But I kind of want to bring this
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  Speaker 4: up because we are hinting on a sense of identity, right?
• 43:13
  Speaker 1: So I'm this believer.
• 43:15
  Speaker 4: And I'm learning and deconstruction. Deconstruction is teaching me who
• 43:22
  Speaker 4: I am, but I still got an idea about who
• 43:25
  Speaker 4: I am because what the church world or the Christian
• 43:29
  Speaker 4: world is telling me what righteousness looks like and But
• 43:33
  Speaker 4: I'm seeing myself in this different form that doesn't necessarily
• 43:36
  Speaker 4: dress up as righteousness. And what does that even mean? Like,
• 43:39
  Speaker 4: how do I identify as righteous? How do I identify
• 43:43
  Speaker 4: as this believer? But this looks so different from what
• 43:47
  Speaker 4: I've seen and what the Lord wants me to do.
• 43:51
  Speaker 1: I am torn.
• 43:54
  Speaker 5: So that is interesting because sometimes in the unique way
• 43:59
  Speaker 5: God may have called you to be, it may be
• 44:02
  Speaker 5: a path and that you have not seen, or it
• 44:05
  Speaker 5: definitely is a, is a, sometimes a separation from like
• 44:09
  Speaker 5: what you may feel they're saying that this is versus
• 44:14
  Speaker 5: how you feel you're supposed to deliver it. And according
• 44:17
  Speaker 5: to that standard, it's not righteous. According to that standard,
• 44:21
  Speaker 5: it's not what's acceptable to this particular group of people.
• 44:27
  Speaker 5: So I think from that perspective of you're new in
• 44:33
  Speaker 5: Christ and you feel like, okay, what is all this?
• 44:36
  Speaker 5: Like being righteous and, you know, they're saying this is
• 44:39
  Speaker 5: wrong and this is wrong, but this.
• 44:41
  Speaker 3: Is right and this is right.
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  Speaker 5: I would say that the thing that I would start
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  Speaker 5: with if I was in those beginning stages would be
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  Speaker 5: a way of sonship and daughtership. And I would look
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  Speaker 5: at it from that perspective wholly. from a wholeness perspective
• 45:00
  Speaker 5: of a son and daughter, meaning this. No good father
• 45:05
  Speaker 5: is going to punish your child when they make a
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  Speaker 5: mistake as they're growing. And you're not going to keep
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  Speaker 5: scolding them. You're going to be patient with them. You
• 45:18
  Speaker 5: might correct them, but you'll never withdraw your love from them.
• 45:21
  Speaker 5: So I feel like sometimes the confusion comes because they
• 45:26
  Speaker 5: want a lot of times it's hard to understand how
• 45:30
  Speaker 5: am I supposed to walk this relationship with God out?
• 45:32
  Speaker 5: Because I'm trying to be this, I'm trying to be that.
• 45:34
  Speaker 5: I feel like he's called me here. So I feel
• 45:36
  Speaker 5: like all of that confusion is because he doesn't want
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  Speaker 5: us to realize that God is a true father. When
• 45:40
  Speaker 5: I called on Jesus in that moment, I couldn't do
• 45:43
  Speaker 5: nothing at all before that. I wasn't able to, but
• 45:45
  Speaker 5: when I called on Jesus, he saved me.
• 45:48
  Speaker 3: That's a true father.
• 45:49
  Speaker 5: And I think that looking at it from sonship or
• 45:52
  Speaker 5: daughtership in the beginnings, and understand that he's the father
• 45:57
  Speaker 5: that will leave the 99 to get the one, I
• 46:00
  Speaker 5: would go forth under the, well, under the understanding that
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  Speaker 5: the Lord loves me and he loves me so much
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  Speaker 5: that even while I'm trying to, because here's the thing,
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  Speaker 5: we're not going to get it right every single time.
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  Speaker 5: So there's no way to sit there and understand fully.
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  Speaker 5: But I do know this, he does call us to
• 46:20
  Speaker 5: be separate and be holy. But at the same point
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  Speaker 5: in time, my conviction or what I'm working through, I'm
• 46:27
  Speaker 5: not going to make it to where now that condemnation
• 46:32
  Speaker 5: sits on me to where I feel like God doesn't
• 46:34
  Speaker 5: love me anymore.
• 46:35
  Speaker 3: It turns to conviction.
• 46:36
  Speaker 5: And the greatest definition I've heard of God is this,
• 46:38
  Speaker 5: that God will love you so much that he won't
• 46:40
  Speaker 5: take anything from you, but you'll start to put away
• 46:42
  Speaker 5: things that displease him. So as you grow in understanding
• 46:46
  Speaker 5: his love, it's like I start to clean up my
• 46:49
  Speaker 5: room better when I know he's coming over. But at
• 46:53
  Speaker 5: the same point in time, he ain't going to kick
• 46:55
  Speaker 5: me out the house because I ain't got to the
• 46:57
  Speaker 5: point where I'm keeping my room tidy and clean that way.
• 47:00
  Speaker 5: So I feel like once you continue in starting in
• 47:04
  Speaker 5: your word, getting a word, the way that the word
• 47:08
  Speaker 5: of God will continue to speak to you and continue,
• 47:11
  Speaker 5: it's a living, breathing thing. I think the more that
• 47:14
  Speaker 5: you continue on that aspect, you'll start to understand that
• 47:17
  Speaker 5: And we start to understand from the stories and different
• 47:20
  Speaker 5: things in the Bible of how he has used his fatherhood,
• 47:26
  Speaker 5: his lordship, and the way he dealt with the people
• 47:28
  Speaker 5: in the Bible.
• 47:29
  Speaker 3: That's the same.
• 47:30
  Speaker 5: And then the ultimate promise. He sent his son so
• 47:33
  Speaker 5: much for God so loved the world. His whole thing
• 47:36
  Speaker 5: is love, but his mercy only endures for... Like he's only,
• 47:40
  Speaker 5: I think it said his mercy is like his, sorry,
• 47:42
  Speaker 5: his wrath is but for a moment, but his love
• 47:44
  Speaker 5: and mercy like endures forever. So yes, he may just
• 47:47
  Speaker 5: like a father. I might get mad at my daughters.
• 47:48
  Speaker 3: I got three daughters. I get pissed. They eat my chips.
• 47:51
  Speaker 5: They take my snacks. Like they don't, they don't ask
• 47:53
  Speaker 5: for nothing. One right now, I bought some macadamia nut cookies.
• 47:57
  Speaker 5: Like I know one of them keep taking my cookies,
• 47:59
  Speaker 5: but I can't find out which one of them it is.
• 48:02
  Speaker 5: And I keep going back and I'm like, when I
• 48:04
  Speaker 5: find you, I'm chopping your hands off.
• 48:06
  Speaker 3: Like, you know what I'm saying?
• 48:08
  Speaker 5: But at the end of the day, I'm saying that
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  Speaker 5: to say, my daughters, there's nothing that they could do
• 48:13
  Speaker 5: that I would take that love from them and keep
• 48:16
  Speaker 5: it from them forever. They're from me. It's a love
• 48:22
  Speaker 5: that I can't describe, but I'll give my life for it.
• 48:24
  Speaker 5: God did that on a level that we cannot even
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  Speaker 5: begin to understand.
• 48:29
  Speaker 3: So.
• 48:30
  Speaker 5: I know that was a lot, but to put it
• 48:31
  Speaker 5: in a short aspect, I would start with understanding from
• 48:34
  Speaker 5: sonship and daughtership and understand that the love of God
• 48:37
  Speaker 5: is where I want to start. Don't fall too deep into, Oh,
• 48:40
  Speaker 5: I don't know what this, right.
• 48:41
  Speaker 3: I don't know. Listen, God loves me.
• 48:43
  Speaker 5: And as he loves me, he's going to reveal unto
• 48:45
  Speaker 5: me what to say, man, put your shoes up.
• 48:48
  Speaker 3: Okay. I stopped tracking dirt all in here, but he
• 48:51
  Speaker 3: reveals that through his word.
• 48:52
  Speaker 4: Yeah.
• 48:53
  Speaker 3: If that makes sense.
• 48:53
  Speaker 1: No, it makes a lot of sense. And I think
• 48:55
  Speaker 1: the keynote word or the key word right there was love. Like,
• 48:59
  Speaker 1: All of this because not your accident. God allowed it. Love. Yeah.
• 49:06
  Speaker 4: Love covered you, but also transitioned you to a point
• 49:11
  Speaker 4: where he loves others so much that he would keep
• 49:14
  Speaker 4: you here.
• 49:15
  Speaker 5: Yo, I and that's what I have to that's so
• 49:18
  Speaker 5: good and that's so true and you know what I
• 49:21
  Speaker 5: think before that I I didn't I was very obsessed
• 49:24
  Speaker 5: with me minds and minds really to a certain degree
• 49:28
  Speaker 5: meaning that I'm willing to to help but not at
• 49:34
  Speaker 5: the extent that I'll be available at any moment any
• 49:37
  Speaker 5: time Because I had got to a point to where
• 49:41
  Speaker 5: I just wanted my family.
• 49:45
  Speaker 3: I had my wife. I got my kids at home.
• 49:47
  Speaker 5: Mind you, I ain't never, in 10 years from being divorced,
• 49:51
  Speaker 5: first of all, I never had my kids.
• 49:52
  Speaker 3: My kids were living with me. We got a full house.
• 49:55
  Speaker 3: There's laughter everywhere. There's dinners and that.
• 49:57
  Speaker 5: I believe that I started to covet my family before
• 50:02
  Speaker 5: God's purpose for me. And he was like, I didn't
• 50:07
  Speaker 5: give you everything that you have for you to make
• 50:11
  Speaker 5: an excuse as to where you cannot be used by me.
• 50:14
  Speaker 5: I gave you everything you have so there would be
• 50:17
  Speaker 5: no excuse to why you cannot be used by me
• 50:20
  Speaker 5: at any moment. And that was a pill I had
• 50:23
  Speaker 5: to swallow because I didn't see it that way. I
• 50:25
  Speaker 5: just thought like, yo, this is the first time. I'm
• 50:27
  Speaker 5: going to make sure this time I get it right.
• 50:30
  Speaker 5: I'm going to make sure I protect here. No, I
• 50:32
  Speaker 5: can't do that, man. I ain't got time. I got
• 50:34
  Speaker 5: to be a family.
• 50:34
  Speaker 3: I got to do this. And I'm not saying everybody
• 50:37
  Speaker 3: is called the way I may be.
• 50:38
  Speaker 5: But my availability to God is at a very unique
• 50:44
  Speaker 5: level because I am a prophet of God and I
• 50:46
  Speaker 5: am a voice in the earth for him. And he's
• 50:50
  Speaker 5: made that apparent. So when I decided to shut that
• 50:53
  Speaker 5: voice up by disobedience, I'll tell him. Somebody's on my
• 50:58
  Speaker 5: heart to reach out to. I'm going to get to it, man.
• 51:00
  Speaker 5: I'm going to go ahead and talk to my girl.
• 51:02
  Speaker 5: We're going to go ahead and laugh.
• 51:04
  Speaker 3: Sons.
• 51:05
  Speaker 5: Just like Peter, lovest thou me? Lord, you know I
• 51:08
  Speaker 5: love you. It's like, J.D., lovest thou me? God, you
• 51:11
  Speaker 5: know I love you. Then feed my sheep. That was
• 51:15
  Speaker 5: my assignment. And I would like to put my assignment
• 51:18
  Speaker 5: on the shelf sometimes. And I think now looking back
• 51:23
  Speaker 5: on it, but here's the thing. I did not know
• 51:27
  Speaker 5: what I didn't know. And that's where we get back
• 51:29
  Speaker 5: to the root we were talking about, like the love.
• 51:31
  Speaker 5: But his love still came and brought me back to
• 51:33
  Speaker 5: let me know And then for me to still be
• 51:37
  Speaker 5: in one piece the way I am. I've seen so
• 51:39
  Speaker 5: many accidents and different things happen, Jessica, to people since
• 51:42
  Speaker 5: that moment that it brings me to tears sometimes when
• 51:44
  Speaker 5: I'm reading these reports of people.
• 51:45
  Speaker 3: Because I'm like, Lord, oh, you've been so good to me.
• 51:50
  Speaker 5: That I have a, I am indebted to make sure
• 51:55
  Speaker 5: that if you tell me to do something, if I
• 51:58
  Speaker 5: ain't got the muscle memory yet of rapid obedience, give
• 52:02
  Speaker 5: me some time.
• 52:02
  Speaker 3: I'm going to get there.
• 52:03
  Speaker 4: Mm-hmm.
• 52:04
  Speaker 5: Because I'm going to build it to where I promise you,
• 52:07
  Speaker 5: I'm going to make sure that I obey you in
• 52:08
  Speaker 5: the way you want me to. And I think if
• 52:10
  Speaker 5: we make our life about the obedience to Christ in
• 52:15
  Speaker 5: the way that we put him first, everything else that
• 52:18
  Speaker 5: we need, he's going to continue to provide. My family
• 52:21
  Speaker 5: and everything, everybody's good. It almost took my family out.
• 52:25
  Speaker 5: It almost took, man, it was a lot. But even
• 52:28
  Speaker 5: in the things we're doing business-wise, real estate, different things like,
• 52:33
  Speaker 5: they're flowing. We're doing three cohorts right now in workforce development,
• 52:37
  Speaker 5: like three at a time. And they've grown. The partnerships
• 52:41
  Speaker 5: continue to grow. The Lord said, son, that was never
• 52:44
  Speaker 5: not going to be the issue. The problem was you
• 52:47
  Speaker 5: just wanted, hey, that, because you wanted to make sure
• 52:50
  Speaker 5: that was going to make this way and that. But
• 52:53
  Speaker 5: I called you as a prophet first. I called you
• 52:55
  Speaker 5: to be an instrument first. So in the way that
• 53:00
  Speaker 5: We were talking about how do I do this, you know,
• 53:02
  Speaker 5: in ministry and marketplace stuff. To be honest, I'm just,
• 53:05
  Speaker 5: now I'm just available to hear what I need to hear.
• 53:09
  Speaker 5: And then I am relatable enough, like you and I,
• 53:12
  Speaker 5: to make sure that I know how to place it.
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  Speaker 1: I think you just helped me. You helped me real
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  Speaker 1: good right now because, you know, with me not having
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  Speaker 1: a job, well, a traditional job and you're a 95
• 53:24
  Speaker 1: full-time entrepreneurship.
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  Speaker 3: Mm-hmm.
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  Speaker 5: Congratulations by the way Thank you You're about to elevate
• 53:28
  Speaker 5: You got time Now you got space Glass is half full.
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  Speaker 4: Come on now Bam There you go And I know
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  Speaker 4: I'm covered Yes you are The baby of the family
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  Speaker 4: Is going to cover me Hey When I called When
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  Speaker 4: I called Coach D She was like You called the
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  Speaker 4: one Listen She said Okay Because she had been Prophesying.
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  Speaker 3: To me Years I've been around for years.
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  Speaker 4: Bruh. So I've been hearing the same prophetic word, but
• 53:54
  Speaker 4: then it comes to pass. Not how I want it to,
• 53:57
  Speaker 4: but it comes to pass. And so now I'm in
• 54:00
  Speaker 4: this limbo because I have the marketplace knowledge, the marketplace training,
• 54:04
  Speaker 4: but I still got the Holy Ghost.
• 54:06
  Speaker 3: Listen.
• 54:06
  Speaker 1: You know what I'm saying?
• 54:08
  Speaker 3: Let me tell you something. Let me tell you something.
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  Speaker 5: And I want to get this word out because I
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  Speaker 5: know this is for the body of Christ. And God
• 54:15
  Speaker 5: has dealt with me about this. And I'm going to
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  Speaker 5: shift for just a second, but I'm telling you, this
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  Speaker 5: is the word of the Lord. And he that hath
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  Speaker 5: an ear, let him hear what God is saying to
• 54:25
  Speaker 5: his people. God gave it to me like this. There
• 54:29
  Speaker 5: is a separation happening right now for his chosen ones.
• 54:34
  Speaker 5: And he gave it to me in this illustration. And
• 54:36
  Speaker 5: I was talking to my wife about it last night.
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  Speaker 5: When Moses was called to deliver the children of Israel
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  Speaker 5: out of Egypt, what held them bound didn't stay where
• 54:46
  Speaker 5: it was. It continued to pursue them. God is giving
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  Speaker 5: people right now in the body of Christ, his chosen ones,
• 54:55
  Speaker 5: a window, an opportunity to cross over in the Red Sea.
• 54:59
  Speaker 5: But he's not saying that what had you bound is
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  Speaker 5: still not on the hill and you're feeling the pressure
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  Speaker 5: and you're still feeling the weight like it's still right behind.
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  Speaker 5: The way that I still act a little bit, the
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  Speaker 5: way that I still deal, the way that I'm still
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  Speaker 5: Like it's that generation is still trying.
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  Speaker 3: To hold on to you.
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  Speaker 5: But what you don't understand is the glory of God
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  Speaker 5: is about to be shown in such a mighty and
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  Speaker 5: powerful way in this next season. That is just like
• 55:30
  Speaker 5: the children of Israel. The pursuit that's coming from what
• 55:34
  Speaker 5: has held you bound is because it's not in their
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  Speaker 5: mind that they're not going to have you bound again.
• 55:42
  Speaker 5: But God sent that to what had you bound, whatever
• 55:46
  Speaker 5: it is, insecurity, lust, perversion, like low self-esteem, like whatever
• 55:52
  Speaker 5: it is that has had you bound.
• 55:56
  Speaker 3: God has given you a window. He says, stretch out
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  Speaker 3: your hands.
• 55:59
  Speaker 5: And in the crossover, the way that you cross over
• 56:02
  Speaker 5: is he says, stretch out your hands. And the way
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  Speaker 5: he gave it to me is. Stretch out what you
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  Speaker 5: have right now.
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  Speaker 3: Continue.
• 56:08
  Speaker 5: You may not have feel like you're equipped to break
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  Speaker 5: free from it. But as I stretch out my hands
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  Speaker 5: and give him praise and worship, I'm going to transcend
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  Speaker 5: and translate through this crossover. And the confusion is going
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  Speaker 5: to come to the enemy where he feels like he's
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  Speaker 5: going to be able to still grab and hold me.
• 56:25
  Speaker 5: But he's going to be swallowed up in the glory
• 56:28
  Speaker 5: by the waters closing. Because where I cross and he
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  Speaker 5: said that the Egyptians you see today. you will see
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  Speaker 5: no more. The thing that had you bound today, you
• 56:39
  Speaker 5: will see no more. The generational curse that's been after you,
• 56:42
  Speaker 5: that this has been years and years. And one of
• 56:44
  Speaker 5: the reasons I said that is because God is giving
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  Speaker 5: you a window now to cross over. And you may
• 56:53
  Speaker 5: feel the old way or how you used to feel.
• 56:57
  Speaker 5: It's still right on the heel. It's still right there.
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  Speaker 5: But the reason he's giving you the window just to
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  Speaker 5: cross over is because what is still pursuing you is
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  Speaker 5: going to get swallowed up as you continue to pursue God.
• 57:13
  Speaker 5: If he's called you to entrepreneurship, it's because now the
• 57:17
  Speaker 5: pursuit is calling, like the pursuit of what's been the
• 57:21
  Speaker 5: same is still like the fear of the unknown, the
• 57:25
  Speaker 5: fear of maybe, man, like, this is real. Like, it's
• 57:28
  Speaker 5: not a game no more. But that fear is going
• 57:30
  Speaker 5: to be swallowed up because as I'm pursuing, I'm going
• 57:33
  Speaker 5: to take what I have And now I'm going to
• 57:35
  Speaker 5: start budgeting different. I'm going to start looking at the
• 57:39
  Speaker 5: way that I used to do things and change my actions.
• 57:44
  Speaker 5: Because the choice for them to cross over was a
• 57:47
  Speaker 5: choice that was within their ability to do on their own.
• 57:51
  Speaker 5: He looked the most at what are you talking to
• 57:53
  Speaker 5: me for? What do you have in your hand? Stretch
• 57:56
  Speaker 5: out what you have in your hand. They had to
• 57:57
  Speaker 5: make a choice to cross over. And you have to
• 58:00
  Speaker 5: make a choice to cross over in this next season
• 58:03
  Speaker 5: in the body of Christ. The choices that we make
• 58:06
  Speaker 5: are going to allow us to be either swallowed up
• 58:09
  Speaker 5: with what's pursuing us or allow what has been pursuing
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  Speaker 5: us to be swallowed up on its own. And the
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  Speaker 5: choice comes with the obedience. A lot of times we're
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  Speaker 5: struggling with things not because we don't know what to do.
• 58:24
  Speaker 5: It's because we've disobeyed what we were supposed to do.
• 58:27
  Speaker 1: Hmm.
• 58:29
  Speaker 5: And I feel that I just wanted to release that
• 58:31
  Speaker 5: because there's a lot of things that are happening, but
• 58:35
  Speaker 5: right now there's a season of separation that God is
• 58:38
  Speaker 5: calling people to another level. He's called them to the
• 58:40
  Speaker 5: Canaan because the Jessica that fights free in Canaan, not
• 58:45
  Speaker 5: saying there ain't going to be no fight, but you
• 58:46
  Speaker 5: fighting free this time. See, the fight that was in Egypt,
• 58:49
  Speaker 5: you was fighting bound. But the fight in Canaan is
• 58:54
  Speaker 5: the Jessica that's fighting free. I can fight free differently
• 58:59
  Speaker 5: because there's nothing holding me back. And a lot of
• 59:03
  Speaker 5: us are still trying to fight with what had us
• 59:05
  Speaker 5: bound when the fight is called once we believe and
• 59:08
  Speaker 5: start making decisions that are different because the freedom that
• 59:12
  Speaker 5: God has put in who we're supposed to be is
• 59:14
  Speaker 5: on the other side now. of us walking out of
• 59:17
  Speaker 5: what has been holding us bound. I don't care what
• 59:20
  Speaker 5: it is. For me, it was low self-esteem. It was
• 59:22
  Speaker 5: not wanting to accept that I am a prophet, that
• 59:25
  Speaker 5: me not wanting to accept that I am different, me
• 59:27
  Speaker 5: not wanting to accept that I have been.
• 59:29
  Speaker 3: Called and chosen from the time I was in God's womb.
• 59:32
  Speaker 3: But I don't care anymore. I don't care how it looks.
• 59:34
  Speaker 5: I don't care how it feels because the insecurity that
• 59:36
  Speaker 5: was chasing me has now been swallowed up by God's glory.
• 59:41
  Speaker 3: And so now, I'm not saying I won't go through
• 59:42
  Speaker 3: a fight, but you'll fight free.
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  Speaker 1: Jesus.
• 59:45
  Speaker 3: And I guarantee you, free fighters fight different.
• 59:47
  Speaker 1: Yeah, come on. Woo, yes!
• 59:51
  Speaker 3: I'm telling you.
• 59:52
  Speaker 1: Free fighters fight different because I'm visual. So I fight
• 59:57
  Speaker 1: like this. I'm looking crazy.
• 59:59
  Speaker 3: I'm fighting like this.
• 1:00:01
  Speaker 4: But now I can put my dukes up and square up.
• 1:00:03
  Speaker 4: I can really position myself for the win.
• 1:00:07
  Speaker 3: Come on, man.
• 1:00:09
  Speaker 1: I can't position myself bound And we keep saying I'm
• 1:00:13
  Speaker 1: tired But you're tired because you're trying to lose You're
• 1:00:16
  Speaker 1: fighting what's bounding you.
• 1:00:17
  Speaker 5: You're still fighting what had you bound And you're fighting
• 1:00:20
  Speaker 5: in the crossover moment You better move because the glory
• 1:00:22
  Speaker 5: of God is coming Whether you're going to be swallowed
• 1:00:24
  Speaker 5: up And what's been fighting you Or just what's been
• 1:00:28
  Speaker 5: fighting you is going to be swallowed up.
• 1:00:30
  Speaker 1: See, I'm not worried.
• 1:00:30
  Speaker 5: I'm not fighting there. I'm fighting to go there. See,
• 1:00:33
  Speaker 5: if I'm fighting what's holding me bound, I'm still fighting
• 1:00:36
  Speaker 5: looking back. But if I'm fighting here, you're trying to
• 1:00:39
  Speaker 5: pull me back. At some point, the glory of God
• 1:00:42
  Speaker 5: is going to come and overtake what's been holding me.
• 1:00:45
  Speaker 3: And then I'll be set free to go fight where
• 1:00:47
  Speaker 3: I was destined to be.
• 1:00:48
  Speaker 1: Come on.
• 1:00:48
  Speaker 3: Oh, hallelujah.
• 1:00:49
  Speaker 1: Because even when you talk about this visual, I'm visualizing, right?
• 1:00:54
  Speaker 1: If I'm walking forward... What God pulls away from me
• 1:00:58
  Speaker 1: won't pull me because I'm pulling away.
• 1:01:02
  Speaker 3: I'm not turned around. I'm not entangled.
• 1:01:04
  Speaker 5: See, the fight that you're trying to fight with have
• 1:01:06
  Speaker 5: and bound, you're still using. That means you're still using
• 1:01:09
  Speaker 5: and doing the same thing the same way that you
• 1:01:11
  Speaker 5: used to.
• 1:01:11
  Speaker 1: This is so good. This is so good.
• 1:01:12
  Speaker 3: So people of God, fight different. Don't stay entangled.
• 1:01:17
  Speaker 5: And be not entangled again with the yoke of bondage
• 1:01:19
  Speaker 5: that so easily beset you. Some of you are still
• 1:01:21
  Speaker 5: trying to fight with it. Lord, you're still trying to
• 1:01:24
  Speaker 5: do a whole thing. Just make a decision. I'm not
• 1:01:27
  Speaker 5: going back to that. When he called, absolutely not. It's
• 1:01:31
  Speaker 5: a decision or it's a bondage that you're going to
• 1:01:34
  Speaker 5: keep entangling yourself with. But the way that you fight
• 1:01:38
  Speaker 5: free is on a level where God will never let,
• 1:01:42
  Speaker 5: he never let the children of Israel go in Canaan
• 1:01:46
  Speaker 5: without what they needed. Every time they fought, they still
• 1:01:50
  Speaker 5: was provided for without question.
• 1:01:52
  Speaker 1: But this is so good.
• 1:01:53
  Speaker 4: So now the question is, how do I know that
• 1:01:56
  Speaker 4: I'm fighting for you or fighting for bondage?
• 1:01:59
  Speaker 1: And I say this all the time. It's how you respond. Yes.
• 1:02:04
  Speaker 1: It's how you respond.
• 1:02:06
  Speaker 4: And recently I had an opportunity to face some things.
• 1:02:12
  Speaker 4: And my response... My response to my decision was different
• 1:02:38
  Speaker 4: from when I had the opportunity before. I can sit
• 1:02:43
  Speaker 4: here and look at myself and be, yeah, I made
• 1:02:45
  Speaker 4: the decision. Yeah, I'm upset with myself. But how do
• 1:02:49
  Speaker 4: I know that I'm fighting free now?
• 1:02:51
  Speaker 1: It's because... I'm free to reach out.
• 1:02:56
  Speaker 3: Yeah.
• 1:02:58
  Speaker 1: And my response is naturally to.
• 1:03:02
  Speaker 3: Isolate. Mm-hmm.
• 1:03:04
  Speaker 5: That's so good. That's so good. Because one could put $ 1, 000
• 1:03:07
  Speaker 5: on the flag. Two can put $ 10, 000. Let's do the math.
• 1:03:11
  Speaker 5: Three got to put $ 19, 000.
• 1:03:12
  Speaker 3: One in 10. You know what I'm saying? And the
• 1:03:16
  Speaker 3: reason I'm.
• 1:03:16
  Speaker 5: Saying that is because we weren't made to fight this
• 1:03:21
  Speaker 5: thing alone, man.
• 1:03:23
  Speaker 3: And I'm proud of you for that. You know what
• 1:03:25
  Speaker 3: I'm saying?
• 1:03:25
  Speaker 5: Whatever it may be, because the easiest thing that we
• 1:03:31
  Speaker 5: can do is condemn ourselves, but to a place where
• 1:03:36
  Speaker 5: God throws us away. But it goes back to what
• 1:03:39
  Speaker 5: we've been talking about on the basis of this podcast,
• 1:03:42
  Speaker 5: the love of God. He said, if I make my
• 1:03:47
  Speaker 5: bed in hell, you're there. David said, if I fly
• 1:03:50
  Speaker 5: to the other uttermost parts of the earth, you're there.
• 1:03:54
  Speaker 5: There is no hiding from you. David did things we
• 1:03:57
  Speaker 5: ain't never did. David said, yo, Uriah.
• 1:04:01
  Speaker 3: Holler at your boy.
• 1:04:02
  Speaker 5: So look, need you to fight, man. And I'm talking
• 1:04:05
  Speaker 5: about with vigor on the front line, right?
• 1:04:07
  Speaker 1: Boom.
• 1:04:08
  Speaker 3: Man's wife is in the back.
• 1:04:11
  Speaker 4: Yeah.
• 1:04:12
  Speaker 5: So much so, David was so displaced from who he
• 1:04:15
  Speaker 5: was supposed to be, what he was supposed to be doing,
• 1:04:16
  Speaker 5: that the prophet had to come and give him a
• 1:04:19
  Speaker 5: prophecy in a metaphor.
• 1:04:21
  Speaker 1: Yes.
• 1:04:22
  Speaker 5: And then he said, man, David was like, yo, who
• 1:04:24
  Speaker 5: did this? I'll do them right now. He said, thou
• 1:04:26
  Speaker 5: art the man. David said, oh my God. How does
• 1:04:29
  Speaker 5: somebody like that become a man of God's own heart?
• 1:04:32
  Speaker 5: I'll tell you just like that. It's because he never
• 1:04:33
  Speaker 5: stopped reaching out.
• 1:04:35
  Speaker 1: Oh, hallelujah.
• 1:04:36
  Speaker 5: He never allowed the enemy to make him feel that
• 1:04:40
  Speaker 5: he still wasn't God's anointed, that he still was not
• 1:04:42
  Speaker 5: God's beloved. Because all I know is the man that
• 1:04:46
  Speaker 5: was on the cross by Jesus lived a life. He said, yo,
• 1:04:50
  Speaker 5: I deserve to be up here. So I ain't even tripping.
• 1:04:54
  Speaker 5: But I don't think you deserve what they're doing to you.
• 1:04:56
  Speaker 5: But if this kingdom is real, what you're talking about,
• 1:04:59
  Speaker 5: just remember me.
• 1:05:01
  Speaker 3: This day, you're going to be with me in paradise.
• 1:05:03
  Speaker 3: What kind of love?
• 1:05:05
  Speaker 1: Hallelujah, man.
• 1:05:08
  Speaker 3: We don't get what we earn, but the moment we start.
• 1:05:11
  Speaker 4: Stop.
• 1:05:12
  Speaker 5: We stop reaching out and we allow the enemy to
• 1:05:15
  Speaker 5: make us feel we'll self-sabotage until we don't even get
• 1:05:20
  Speaker 5: to the next level. And we live with an ailment
• 1:05:23
  Speaker 5: or a bondage that God never designed for us to
• 1:05:25
  Speaker 5: stay bound with.
• 1:05:27
  Speaker 3: So I'm proud of you. Thank you.
• 1:05:28
  Speaker 5: Because I know that takes courage, but it also takes
• 1:05:32
  Speaker 5: a freedom to understand that. And never again will I
• 1:05:35
  Speaker 5: be now from the reaching out. It goes to another
• 1:05:38
  Speaker 5: level of accountability.
• 1:05:39
  Speaker 1: Yeah.
• 1:05:40
  Speaker 5: And then it goes from that. And that's how we
• 1:05:42
  Speaker 5: develop who we're supposed to be, man. But it has
• 1:05:47
  Speaker 5: to start. And I'm proud because it has to start
• 1:05:50
  Speaker 5: with a way of like, Lord, here I am yet again.
• 1:05:54
  Speaker 5: David and I have seen God take him from David
• 1:05:56
  Speaker 5: and Goliath all the way to the throne. And he
• 1:05:59
  Speaker 5: still did the Bathsheba thing. You can't judge nobody. The
• 1:06:03
  Speaker 5: Bible says, if you see your brother which is overtaken
• 1:06:06
  Speaker 5: in a fault, ye which are spiritual... Restore such a
• 1:06:10
  Speaker 5: one in the spirit of meekness, considering yourself. So don't
• 1:06:17
  Speaker 5: tell me you spiritual if you ain't got no grace
• 1:06:19
  Speaker 5: for nobody else.
• 1:06:21
  Speaker 1: Come on.
• 1:06:23
  Speaker 5: Meekness is controlled power. What you going off for? Blessed
• 1:06:31
  Speaker 5: are the meek, for they shall inherit the earth. Blessed
• 1:06:33
  Speaker 5: are the ones with controlled power, for they shall inherit
• 1:06:36
  Speaker 5: the earth. I believe that it was very intentional that
• 1:06:39
  Speaker 5: God made the last fruit of the Spirit self-control. Why
• 1:06:43
  Speaker 5: do you say that? Because it goes from love, joy, peace, patience, kindness, goodness, faithfulness, gentleness,
• 1:06:50
  Speaker 5: and self-control. After I've tried these eight, and ain't none
• 1:06:54
  Speaker 5: of them work. Which I feel like he was like, okay,
• 1:06:58
  Speaker 5: now it's self-control. And who showed the greatest self-control, Jessica?
• 1:07:03
  Speaker 3: Jesus. I can call legions of angels down.
• 1:07:07
  Speaker 1: Mm-hmm.
• 1:07:07
  Speaker 3: Right now.
• 1:07:10
  Speaker 5: So if we want to make God proud and we
• 1:07:13
  Speaker 5: really say we love him, increase your self-control. Increase your
• 1:07:20
  Speaker 5: self-control and by any means that you have to do it.
• 1:07:23
  Speaker 5: Like you said, if you got to reach out, reach out.
• 1:07:26
  Speaker 5: But when that decision come, you have the power to
• 1:07:28
  Speaker 5: say no. I was dealing with somebody in one of
• 1:07:31
  Speaker 5: my cohorts, right? And it was like, yo, I'm just
• 1:07:34
  Speaker 5: feeling anxious. I just need to take a break.
• 1:07:35
  Speaker 3: I need to go out here.
• 1:07:36
  Speaker 5: I said, hey, hey, hey, listen, let me tell you something.
• 1:07:39
  Speaker 5: You're fine, but I understand how you feel. But this
• 1:07:43
  Speaker 5: is that ministry marketplace. I said, next time something like
• 1:07:46
  Speaker 5: that makes you feel anxious, I want you to look
• 1:07:48
  Speaker 5: at yourself and say, I can do all things.
• 1:07:51
  Speaker 3: Through Christ who strengthens me.
• 1:07:55
  Speaker 5: God wants you to know that you got power over
• 1:07:58
  Speaker 5: anything that is trying to have power over you in
• 1:08:00
  Speaker 5: your life.
• 1:08:01
  Speaker 3: And that was it.
• 1:08:02
  Speaker 5: It was like I had spoken the words of life
• 1:08:04
  Speaker 5: to that person. They couldn't, it's like they had never
• 1:08:09
  Speaker 5: heard that they had the power. And I'm saying that
• 1:08:12
  Speaker 5: to say the self-control that we are increasing in is
• 1:08:17
  Speaker 5: allowing us to demonstrate a reflective character of Christ that
• 1:08:23
  Speaker 5: is going to lead us to the next that we're
• 1:08:24
  Speaker 5: asking him for.
• 1:08:26
  Speaker 1: So good. It's so good, man. Woo!
• 1:08:32
  Speaker 3: I'm sorry. I know I've been talking. My bad.
• 1:08:34
  Speaker 1: No, no.
• 1:08:34
  Speaker 4: Listen, because you know I know the art of interviewing
• 1:08:38
  Speaker 4: or whatever, but I came in today knowing, I said, Lord,
• 1:08:43
  Speaker 4: I know what I had in my mind, but even
• 1:08:45
  Speaker 4: in the season that I'm in right now, it's going
• 1:08:48
  Speaker 4: to hit me first.
• 1:08:49
  Speaker 1: Yeah.
• 1:08:49
  Speaker 4: And I got to just be okay with not being
• 1:08:52
  Speaker 4: the marketplace Jessica today. Because it's not caught right now.
• 1:08:57
  Speaker 4: What if I need to be 100%.
• 1:09:00
  Speaker 1: Ministry right now.
• 1:09:01
  Speaker 4: I can marketplace it. I know I can set up it.
• 1:09:04
  Speaker 4: I know what I can do.
• 1:09:05
  Speaker 3: I mean, she's down at the top. She wanted the
• 1:09:08
  Speaker 3: best to do it. Her and Desi were killing it.
• 1:09:11
  Speaker 1: I know what structure is.
• 1:09:12
  Speaker 4: I know how to, you know, the algorithm is going algorithm,
• 1:09:16
  Speaker 4: but is that more important than what the Lord wants
• 1:09:19
  Speaker 4: to do?
• 1:09:20
  Speaker 1: You know what I'm saying? This is not even my platform, dog.
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  Speaker 3: It's just cause. It's not even my platform. But you
• 1:09:25
  Speaker 3: know what's coming though?
• 1:09:28
  Speaker 1: Listen. Well, no. What I'm saying is... Appreciate that. You
• 1:09:32
  Speaker 1: know what I'm saying?
• 1:09:33
  Speaker 3: Prophesy. Come on, prophet! I'm just saying.
• 1:09:37
  Speaker 4: I'm just saying. This is only the beginning. But what
• 1:09:39
  Speaker 4: I also mean by that is that my... Just ask
• 1:09:43
  Speaker 4: and start because I thought of the idea. This was
• 1:09:46
  Speaker 4: all God.
• 1:09:47
  Speaker 1: And so when he wants to... For... his people to speak.
• 1:09:52
  Speaker 3: Yeah.
• 1:09:53
  Speaker 1: You can come over here and talk as long as
• 1:09:54
  Speaker 1: you want. You have a revolving door. At this time,
• 1:09:58
  Speaker 1: at this point in time, I think between, I think
• 1:10:00
  Speaker 1: you probably been on here more.
• 1:10:01
  Speaker 3: Than Coach D?
• 1:10:03
  Speaker 1: Well, yeah. Don't say that out loud. She gonna watch this.
• 1:10:07
  Speaker 3: But y'all talk like every day.
• 1:10:08
  Speaker 1: I know, but she gonna watch.
• 1:10:09
  Speaker 3: Y'all got your own personal podcast. Y'all talk like every day.
• 1:10:11
  Speaker 3: She be like, give me a second, it's Jessica. Of course.
• 1:10:15
  Speaker 3: Of course it's Jessica. Hi, Jessica.
• 1:10:16
  Speaker 1: It's me. It's me. It's me again. Um, But you
• 1:10:23
  Speaker 1: have a revolving door.
• 1:10:24
  Speaker 4: I think Desiree has been over there tearing her notebook up.
• 1:10:28
  Speaker 1: You know how she is.
• 1:10:29
  Speaker 4: So, Desiree, what is your digestion of the prophet prophesying
• 1:10:36
  Speaker 4: and teaching us the holy word? Huh?
• 1:10:39
  Speaker 1: Huh? Find it, Desiree. Thank you. So, you know, first off,
• 1:10:45
  Speaker 1: I didn't know. Like, I knew, but I didn't know. Like,
• 1:10:48
  Speaker 1: I always get.
• 1:10:51
  Speaker 4: Great revelation and inspiration. And anytime I hear Coach JD,
• 1:10:58
  Speaker 4: because he be on fire, he always been like a
• 1:11:00
  Speaker 4: fireball kind of thing. But I just remember when I
• 1:11:05
  Speaker 4: heard about the accident, I said, dang Lord, you really
• 1:11:10
  Speaker 4: got something for him to do because this is like
• 1:11:12
  Speaker 4: the enemy really trying to take him out.
• 1:11:15
  Speaker 1: Like for real.
• 1:11:16
  Speaker 4: So just to see from there to now, You know
• 1:11:21
  Speaker 4: what I'm saying?
• 1:11:22
  Speaker 1: It's amazing.
• 1:11:23
  Speaker 4: And what I was hearing as I was just listening
• 1:11:25
  Speaker 4: to the testimony and just listening to you guys having
• 1:11:27
  Speaker 4: a conversation, to me, everything has been really going back
• 1:11:32
  Speaker 4: to me just really believing Jeremiah 29-11.
• 1:11:35
  Speaker 1: Right?
• 1:11:35
  Speaker 4: It's like, We struggle so bad with this thing called
• 1:11:41
  Speaker 4: life because we're trying to understand it on our own, right?
• 1:11:45
  Speaker 4: But if the word says the Lord, he brought us
• 1:11:47
  Speaker 4: here for a reason, right? And he already knows why
• 1:11:52
  Speaker 4: he put us in this earth. I think it's our
• 1:11:54
  Speaker 4: responsibility as we come into the knowledge of who he is,
• 1:11:57
  Speaker 4: is to seek him for what that is.
• 1:11:59
  Speaker 2: Yes.
• 1:11:59
  Speaker 1: But sometimes.
• 1:12:01
  Speaker 4: He has to use situations to align us to what
• 1:12:05
  Speaker 4: it is that he's calling us to do.
• 1:12:07
  Speaker 2: Come on.
• 1:12:07
  Speaker 4: So this whole thing for me, listening, has been about
• 1:12:10
  Speaker 4: God's love and his grace, but also identity.
• 1:12:14
  Speaker 1: Right. You know what I'm saying?
• 1:12:15
  Speaker 4: You talked about how you knew there were some things
• 1:12:18
  Speaker 4: that the Lord wanted you to do, but I think
• 1:12:20
  Speaker 4: we still have this will thing.
• 1:12:22
  Speaker 1: Like, I know what you want me to do, big dog,
• 1:12:24
  Speaker 1: but I kind of like... I kind of liked what
• 1:12:27
  Speaker 1: I got going on. You know what I'm saying? I
• 1:12:29
  Speaker 1: kind of like what's happening here. Like you, you asking
• 1:12:32
  Speaker 1: for a lot.
• 1:12:33
  Speaker 3: So true.
• 1:12:34
  Speaker 1: Right. That's so true though. What you asking for is
• 1:12:36
  Speaker 1: a lot. You know what I'm saying?
• 1:12:37
  Speaker 4: And when he say you're, you're created for such a
• 1:12:40
  Speaker 4: time as this, like February had to happen. So that
• 1:12:44
  Speaker 4: seven months later, you now have the word of the
• 1:12:46
  Speaker 4: Lord for this time.
• 1:12:47
  Speaker 1: Come on. You know what I'm saying?
• 1:12:48
  Speaker 4: There's a people, as we talk about this separating, this remnant,
• 1:12:51
  Speaker 4: there's a people that he's been processing.
• 1:12:54
  Speaker 3: Yes, Lord.
• 1:12:55
  Speaker 4: There's a people that has been journeying with the Lord
• 1:12:58
  Speaker 4: with not really knowing what's happening. Lord, why do I
• 1:13:01
  Speaker 4: have to go through these things? But now when you hear, hey,
• 1:13:05
  Speaker 4: there is another side.
• 1:13:07
  Speaker 3: Yes.
• 1:13:08
  Speaker 1: Like, hey, there's another side. You want to say yes
• 1:13:11
  Speaker 1: to that?
• 1:13:13
  Speaker 4: And say yes fully in obedience right now because you
• 1:13:16
  Speaker 4: don't want to have to say yes from here. So
• 1:13:18
  Speaker 4: I think your message and who you are in the
• 1:13:21
  Speaker 4: body of Christ and what the Lord has given you
• 1:13:24
  Speaker 4: is so pivotal. We can say, unfortunately, like, things had
• 1:13:28
  Speaker 4: to happen for you to get here. But I'm just
• 1:13:30
  Speaker 4: so glad to see you sitting here, like, with the
• 1:13:32
  Speaker 4: joy of the Lord. Like, I know it's a joy
• 1:13:35
  Speaker 4: and a real reverence of the Lord. Like, you were
• 1:13:37
  Speaker 4: there before, but now, like, bro, like, you can't tell
• 1:13:41
  Speaker 4: me no different. And so this was good for me because,
• 1:13:46
  Speaker 4: you know, as....
• 1:13:48
  Speaker 1: I think we're all very peculiar people.
• 1:13:50
  Speaker 4: And I think a part of the journey is becoming
• 1:13:55
  Speaker 4: okay with who God has called us to be.
• 1:13:57
  Speaker 1: And it looking.
• 1:13:58
  Speaker 3: That's so good.
• 1:13:59
  Speaker 1: And it looking different.
• 1:14:00
  Speaker 4: As we talked about, hey, you say righteousness looks like this,
• 1:14:03
  Speaker 4: but what I notice in the fabric of my being,
• 1:14:07
  Speaker 4: I don't know what to do with this thing.
• 1:14:09
  Speaker 1: Yeah, come on.
• 1:14:10
  Speaker 4: And so a part of the journey, as we talked
• 1:14:11
  Speaker 4: about in the episode before, is just asking and seeking
• 1:14:14
  Speaker 4: the Lord.
• 1:14:14
  Speaker 1: Like, okay, God.
• 1:14:16
  Speaker 4: You created me for something. I hear people calling me this.
• 1:14:21
  Speaker 4: I've gone through this. I got this idea about myself.
• 1:14:24
  Speaker 4: What do you say about me? What do you say
• 1:14:26
  Speaker 4: about me?
• 1:14:27
  Speaker 3: Come on, man.
• 1:14:28
  Speaker 1: That's the big question. What do you say about me? Jesus, Desiree.
• 1:14:32
  Speaker 1: That's the one we ain't asking. That is it.
• 1:14:37
  Speaker 3: Desiree, that is it.
• 1:14:39
  Speaker 1: That's the big question. What do you say about me?
• 1:14:42
  Speaker 3: Are you pleased?
• 1:14:44
  Speaker 5: With who am I glory to God man listen Des
• 1:14:47
  Speaker 5: that was so good because Lord are you pleased.
• 1:14:50
  Speaker 3: With who I've become yeah.
• 1:14:53
  Speaker 5: And when you start asking questions like that oh let
• 1:14:55
  Speaker 5: me tell you what happens his love starts to shower
• 1:14:59
  Speaker 5: down on you that you just I've had where you'll
• 1:15:02
  Speaker 5: begin to weep and just weep and weep because he'll
• 1:15:06
  Speaker 5: let you know and guess what he'll start to do
• 1:15:08
  Speaker 5: almost like flashbacks of moments where you was having those
• 1:15:11
  Speaker 5: tugs but you disobeyed but he kept you anyway. And
• 1:15:16
  Speaker 5: moments that he kept you anyway. And then moments where,
• 1:15:20
  Speaker 5: but he kept you anyway. And then once he gets
• 1:15:22
  Speaker 5: through consuming you with your love, you get up from
• 1:15:25
  Speaker 5: there and then you make different decisions.
• 1:15:28
  Speaker 1: Yes.
• 1:15:30
  Speaker 5: Because now, Lord, who did you call me to be?
• 1:15:33
  Speaker 5: And he reveals it to you by his love.
• 1:15:38
  Speaker 1: Jesus.
• 1:15:40
  Speaker 3: Not by force.
• 1:15:41
  Speaker 1: And then hell is gone. I've been there.
• 1:15:46
  Speaker 3: Been there.
• 1:15:48
  Speaker 5: And I promise you, it's the love of God that
• 1:15:51
  Speaker 5: brought me back. It's not a place designed for us.
• 1:15:57
  Speaker 5: Here's what's crazy. The abominations I see, I didn't see.
• 1:16:00
  Speaker 5: They weren't human-like, but they were human-like. Hell couldn't have
• 1:16:05
  Speaker 5: been made for us. Y'all, the things I've seen, there's
• 1:16:08
  Speaker 5: no way that hell.
• 1:16:10
  Speaker 3: Was made for us.
• 1:16:12
  Speaker 1: It could not be.
• 1:16:13
  Speaker 3: Made for us for the things that I have seen.
• 1:16:15
  Speaker 3: Why would you have these? No, ain't no way. The atmosphere, Des,
• 1:16:19
  Speaker 3: is just potent with evil. No.
• 1:16:26
  Speaker 5: Which is why he said, I have to understand how
• 1:16:30
  Speaker 5: to circumvent my people back unto me. So I'm going
• 1:16:33
  Speaker 5: to send my son. I got something for you to do.
• 1:16:37
  Speaker 5: But when you do it, I'm going to give you
• 1:16:38
  Speaker 5: a name that's above every name. That every knee shall bow.
• 1:16:41
  Speaker 5: Every tongue will confess. And I'm going to give you
• 1:16:45
  Speaker 5: the keys over death, hell, and the grave. So then
• 1:16:49
  Speaker 5: when he said, I'm going back to be with the Father,
• 1:16:51
  Speaker 5: guess what he said, Jess? And then, just wait though.
• 1:16:53
  Speaker 5: I'm not going to leave you comfortless. I would ask
• 1:16:56
  Speaker 5: you if you are failing at a test to feel
• 1:16:58
  Speaker 5: like you don't have enough power to change, have you
• 1:17:01
  Speaker 5: considered the Holy Ghost? Because the Holy, he said, behold,
• 1:17:05
  Speaker 5: I'm going to give you power. And I'm going to
• 1:17:07
  Speaker 5: send the Holy Ghost in and do you with power.
• 1:17:09
  Speaker 5: When I recognize that a lot of the things that
• 1:17:12
  Speaker 5: I liked, let me tell you, I'm going to be 100%.
• 1:17:14
  Speaker 5: I used to vape heavily.
• 1:17:17
  Speaker 3: Y'all, heavily. I had to.
• 1:17:21
  Speaker 1: Because in my mind, I.
• 1:17:23
  Speaker 3: Gave up so much before.
• 1:17:25
  Speaker 5: Vaping for me became something that was like, this is small.
• 1:17:32
  Speaker 5: I remember one day looking at it and God just
• 1:17:36
  Speaker 5: consumed me.
• 1:17:37
  Speaker 3: Son, I could have gave you. I'm seeing people that's coughing,
• 1:17:41
  Speaker 3: being in the hospital, saying, yo, this is how, you know.
• 1:17:43
  Speaker 5: I didn't get sick one time. Son, that could have
• 1:17:45
  Speaker 5: been you. And I looked at it, and he was like,
• 1:17:49
  Speaker 5: and you're telling me that you don't have any power.
• 1:17:52
  Speaker 1: Jesus.
• 1:17:54
  Speaker 5: So you telling me that my death, I need to
• 1:17:56
  Speaker 5: come back, do.
• 1:17:58
  Speaker 3: The cross again.
• 1:17:59
  Speaker 4: Jesus.
• 1:17:59
  Speaker 1: You need to see it.
• 1:18:00
  Speaker 5: To know that everything I did when I took my
• 1:18:02
  Speaker 5: lashes and I took all of that, and you're telling
• 1:18:05
  Speaker 5: me that you ain't got no power. But that's okay.
• 1:18:10
  Speaker 5: I love you so much that I'm going to keep
• 1:18:12
  Speaker 5: replaying the times that you should have been injured from
• 1:18:14
  Speaker 5: when you started, babe, back when you got divorced in 2014,
• 1:18:18
  Speaker 5: when you started. Back in 2014 and 2015 and 2016,
• 1:18:25
  Speaker 5: when you've been doing this for that long, and yet
• 1:18:27
  Speaker 5: I still didn't allow it to come. But there's other
• 1:18:28
  Speaker 5: people that only did it for three, four years, and
• 1:18:30
  Speaker 5: now they got popcorn lung and all this other. My
• 1:18:32
  Speaker 5: love has covered you, but you still say you ain't
• 1:18:34
  Speaker 5: got power.
• 1:18:35
  Speaker 3: I understand. Cold turkey.
• 1:18:41
  Speaker 5: Because I realize every time I live my life as
• 1:18:43
  Speaker 5: if I have no power, I'm trying to crucify him
• 1:18:46
  Speaker 5: again on the cross.
• 1:18:46
  Speaker 1: Jesus.
• 1:18:48
  Speaker 3: How is it you ain't got no power?
• 1:18:50
  Speaker 5: When he died so that you would have power over
• 1:18:53
  Speaker 5: death hell and the whole now I give you power
• 1:18:55
  Speaker 5: to tread upon serpents and scorpion man let me tell
• 1:18:58
  Speaker 5: you something the only reason you feel like you ain't
• 1:19:00
  Speaker 5: got no power is because you probably need to reach
• 1:19:03
  Speaker 5: out I'm not saying you can do it on your
• 1:19:05
  Speaker 5: own but as you reach out and you find you
• 1:19:07
  Speaker 5: a community that will pray you through Oh, and God
• 1:19:11
  Speaker 5: will reveal, but you got to be in pursuit of him.
• 1:19:15
  Speaker 5: And then you'll find those Desi Jess partnerships, sisterhoods that's
• 1:19:21
  Speaker 5: there to support y'all coming to support me.
• 1:19:23
  Speaker 3: And like you'll find it.
• 1:19:25
  Speaker 5: But one thing we all have in common is a
• 1:19:27
  Speaker 5: consistent pursuit of trying to please the Lord. And the
• 1:19:31
  Speaker 5: greatest thing you could do is be in consistent pursuit
• 1:19:34
  Speaker 5: of trying to please God.
• 1:19:41
  Speaker 1: That's it. That's all. Coach J.D. D.J.D. Funby. Big J.D.
• 1:19:49
  Speaker 1: Big J.D. Not the little one. Holy, righteous, deep prophet.
• 1:19:54
  Speaker 3: Big P.
• 1:19:56
  Speaker 1: Capitalization. All right?
• 1:20:00
  Speaker 3: I'm going to get you to announce me everywhere. I'm
• 1:20:01
  Speaker 3: just going to get a recording.
• 1:20:02
  Speaker 1: Baby, period.
• 1:20:03
  Speaker 3: I'm going to always. I'm going to get a recording.
• 1:20:05
  Speaker 1: I'm going to be like, y'all give me a second.
• 1:20:07
  Speaker 1: I say the biggest.
• 1:20:08
  Speaker 4: The largest.
• 1:20:09
  Speaker 1: Aye.
• 1:20:09
  Speaker 3: Aye. You know how you mess with Coach B playlists?
• 1:20:12
  Speaker 1: Listen.
• 1:20:14
  Speaker 3: I'm like, babe, what is it?
• 1:20:15
  Speaker 4: Aye.
• 1:20:16
  Speaker 3: The biggest.
• 1:20:17
  Speaker 1: The largest. The biggest.
• 1:20:18
  Speaker 3: The largest.
• 1:20:19
  Speaker 1: Listen. So, y'all, I know if you've made it to
• 1:20:24
  Speaker 1: this point, it got to be for you. Yeah. If
• 1:20:27
  Speaker 1: you stayed around this.
• 1:20:29
  Speaker 4: Long, all right, because this conversation has been good, but
• 1:20:33
  Speaker 4: it's been long.
• 1:20:35
  Speaker 3: I'm working on that. No, no, no, no.
• 1:20:39
  Speaker 1: I didn't stop it for a reason.
• 1:20:40
  Speaker 4: I think that when you stop the Holy Spirit from
• 1:20:44
  Speaker 4: doing what he's going to do, because I don't know
• 1:20:46
  Speaker 4: who needs this outside of me. I get the impact first.
• 1:20:48
  Speaker 4: Desiree gets it first. But God gets the increase.
• 1:20:51
  Speaker 3: Come on.
• 1:20:53
  Speaker 1: One plant. Another one waters. But God.
• 1:20:58
  Speaker 3: That is the increase. Yeah, yeah.
• 1:21:04
  Speaker 1: Oh, I can't even play with that. Watch it now.
• 1:21:07
  Speaker 3: Watch it now.
• 1:21:09
  Speaker 5: I'm trying to end this. I will tear BGTV Studios up.
• 1:21:14
  Speaker 5: I'll buck all through. I'll knock that plant down. Start
• 1:21:17
  Speaker 5: with that plant. I'm going for that plant, matter of fact.
• 1:21:19
  Speaker 5: I'm going to aim for it. I'm going to buck
• 1:21:21
  Speaker 5: right there. Let me see with my other plant.
• 1:21:24
  Speaker 3: I'll buck through here.
• 1:21:26
  Speaker 1: The walls will come down. I'm going to get a
• 1:21:29
  Speaker 1: good back assist. That shift, huh? I'm trying to release it.
• 1:21:34
  Speaker 3: When you're just shaking, you can get up.
• 1:21:37
  Speaker 1: You just in there. Debbie, you know when I started
• 1:21:39
  Speaker 1: shaking this leg, that's why I had to come down.
• 1:21:42
  Speaker 1: That was shaking. That's right. I was shaking this leg.
• 1:21:44
  Speaker 3: You know what I'm saying?
• 1:21:46
  Speaker 1: Listen. Okay.
• 1:21:47
  Speaker 3: Come on.
• 1:21:48
  Speaker 4: All right.
• 1:21:48
  Speaker 1: Listen. So we know that this has been a lot.
• 1:21:54
  Speaker 1: This has been a lot. Desiree, what was the big
• 1:21:55
  Speaker 1: question again? God, who am I?
• 1:21:58
  Speaker 4: Who God said I am. Who do God say I am?
• 1:22:03
  Speaker 4: What is God saying you are? Who is God saying
• 1:22:05
  Speaker 4: you are? And so I think that if you need
• 1:22:08
  Speaker 4: something to journal, to write, to focus on this week,
• 1:22:11
  Speaker 4: I think that's the big question of this episode is
• 1:22:14
  Speaker 4: who does God say I am? And I think that
• 1:22:18
  Speaker 4: we can't base that off our experience alone.
• 1:22:21
  Speaker 1: We have to do relationship.
• 1:22:23
  Speaker 4: And the best way to do a relationship with God
• 1:22:25
  Speaker 4: is to experience the love of God. And the response
• 1:22:32
  Speaker 4: of the love of God will innately give you the
• 1:22:34
  Speaker 4: ability to obey God. It says, if you love me,
• 1:22:38
  Speaker 4: then you obey my commands. It's out of the love
• 1:22:40
  Speaker 4: of God that we obey him. And so, listen, I
• 1:22:44
  Speaker 4: would love to hear from you in the comments below.
• 1:22:48
  Speaker 4: What was your biggest takeaway from Coach JD?
• 1:22:51
  Speaker 1: And, yeah, he is going to be back. He's going
• 1:22:54
  Speaker 1: to be back. He has a revolving door.
• 1:22:56
  Speaker 4: But I just want to make sure that's the point
• 1:22:57
  Speaker 4: that you guys get. Listen, we love you. We honor you.
• 1:23:01
  Speaker 4: Coach JD, thank you so much for being here.
• 1:23:04
  Speaker 3: I appreciate you.
• 1:23:05
  Speaker 4: Until next week, until next time, remember.
• 1:23:08
  Speaker 1: Life could be much more simple if you just ask.
• 1:23:17
  Speaker 2: Thank you for tuning in to this week's episode. Since
• 1:23:20
  Speaker 2: you've made it this far, you might as well connect
• 1:23:22
  Speaker 2: with us on all social media platforms at the Jessica S.
• 1:23:26
  Speaker 1: Smith.
• 1:23:27
  Speaker 2: I know I won't see you back until next week,
• 1:23:30
  Speaker 2: but until then, remember to love always yourself and always
• 1:23:36
  Speaker 2: thank God.
• 1:23:37
  Speaker 3: For another day.
• 1:23:40
  Speaker 1: Hey, I know we could be another way.
• 1:23:45
  Speaker 4: Hey.
• 1:23:47
  Speaker 3: Thank God for another day.
• 1:23:49
  Speaker 1: I'm just thankful for another day. Another day older.
• 1:23:59
  Speaker 3: Another day wiser. Another day to get it right. Another
• 1:24:02
  Speaker 3: day to rise up. Another day living. Another day with
• 1:24:05
  Speaker 3: loved ones. I always remember holding down for a bold one.