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Mike’s Balls: A Phantasm III Experience · Xenomania

• 0:02
  Intro: No.
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  Be afraid.
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  Be very afraid.
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  Ryan: And it's just, it's such a good hang and you're like expecting like, 'cause
• 0:20
  you don't know what these film series, especially if you're like watching it for
• 0:24
  the first time, you don't know how bad it's gonna go or how good it's gonna be.
• 0:27
  And so far with Phantasm, it just keeps getting better and better.
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  And so far the third one is my favorite in the whole film series.
• 0:35
  Lord of the Dead.
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  Kearns: The Lord of the J. Um, it's interesting to see what
• 0:41
  the nineties does, to Phantasm.
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  Like, I mean, because nineties is the era of the action movie too, and this
• 0:48
  was definitely actiony for sure.
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  Jon: I think this is the most actiony of them all.
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  And then I think we're gonna get more sci-fi as we go on
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  Kearns: Ooh, never gonna get a problem with that outta me.
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  Ryan: I am confirming that the fourth one is the one I saw on sci-fi.
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  'cause the third one, that was definitely not the one I saw on sci-fi either.
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  So four times the charm guys.
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  But um, know, being like a minute in, I'm gonna say this is, uh, let's
• 1:20
  just give a quick rundown 'cause we usually do the 20 minute in and
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  Kearns: Yeah,
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  Ryan: but.
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  Um,
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  Kearns: do the synopsis.
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  Ryan: I was gonna say, it jumps right in from the second one.
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  Um, Reggie gets pulled out of the hearse and everything goes haywire.
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  Mike goes into a, a coma again, rejoined by a Michael Baldwin and
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  Bill Thornberry, which was a fresh set of eyes to see, but they go on this.
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  Another road trip basically to stop the tall man.
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  tall man has Mike captured.
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  Jody's the sphere, we'll get into.
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  Reggie meets some
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  Jon: My brothers this fear.
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  Ryan: He's just, it was like a touch by the angel moment.
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  I felt like when he appeared.
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  I was just like, is he, is he on a, a quest right now?
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  Yes.
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  To stop the tall man.
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  Kearns: It's like a lifetime movie.
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  My brother's a sphere.
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  I was wondering in this one, this one, do you get like the ambiguity
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  of the tall man a little bit too?
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  Like is he an alien?
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  Is he a person?
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  What is the tall man?
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  Jon: Yeah.
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  Kearns: I. They kind of, they kind of start into that a little bit.
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  but no, this one felt a whole lot like watching USA up all night.
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  Uh, if, if you guys are a little dated like we are and we're not that dated,
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  we're in our mid thirties to fifties and, um, USA up all night was where
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  they would show, not like skin Max level movies, but like campy boob films.
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  This one was definitely boob.
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  Jon: Yeah,
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  Ryan: Yes, it
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  Jon: definitely bullish.
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  Kearns: They leaned heavily into Reggie's favorite two things, righty and lefty.
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  Ryan: I, I mean, how long it's been since his family died?
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  Since the second film.
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  It's two, three years.
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  Kearns: He immediately, immediately drowned his sorrows in trying to get
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  laid in the, the, the hitchhiker.
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  And then in the third movie, he did not, he did not slow down whatsoever.
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  Jon: No.
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  Ryan: He tries with the Looter Edna,
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  Kearns: Mm-hmm.
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  Ryan: and then he goes for Rocky.
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  And I mean, that's questionable because that, that dream sequence goes into
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  reality and in the dream, was it real?
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  Was it fake?
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  I don't know.
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  He rescues Mike in that scene.
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  I mean,
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  Jon: he also makes a little kid sleep outside in the car
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  so he can try to get laid.
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  I.
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  Kearns: Huh.
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  Jon: Tim, you're sleeping in the car tonight.
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  Ryan: He agrees with it though.
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  He's like, yeah, I got you Reggie.
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  He's a good man.
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  Jon: I mean, he sort of gets it with Reggie, like over rocky
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  shoulder, like Yeah, yeah.
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  You're, you're finding the car, right?
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  Yeah.
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  Yeah.
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  He's sort of like the reluctant, I can't say no agreement.
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  Ryan: And then he gets handcuffed to the bed at the end of it.
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  Jon: All that, and he doesn't even get any.
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  Ryan: Nope.
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  He is the live action version of Leisure Suit.
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  Larry, they should have made a leisure suit Larry Movie
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  and made it Reggie Banister.
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  It would've worked.
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  that character, Tim, he's got some cool moments in the movie, especially
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  when his introduction with the looters, like the hatchet scene when he throws
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  the hatchet to Edna's head, um, rufuss with the Frisbee blade, and then poor
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  Henry, he just gets shot in the head.
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  It's like a lukewarm death for him.
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  But that was pretty, the Frisbee blade was pretty cool for 94, like
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  wouldn't expect something like that.
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  I don't know.
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  Jon: From that number one, Tim is just lethal.
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  Kevin.
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  We can agree on that, right?
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  Ryan: Fair.
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  Fair on.
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  Jon: He's, it's just lethal home alone at that point, you're gonna say how,
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  how unique a razor blade Frisbee is.
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  Not the first time I've seen one.
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  Kearns: What's the other place?
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  Okay.
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  Jon: Nineties, like tits and Guns movie, got a bunch of playmates and a bunch of
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  like nudity and Frisbee with razor blades.
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  Kearns: Yeah, I was gonna say, and the most important thing of all on a trip
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  to Hawaii, they should do that for Frisbee golf and really up the game,
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  you know, really, really make it fun.
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  Jon: Every Frisbee should just have blades attached to it.
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  Kearns: I'm trying to think of what movie's got us, like the spinning
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  discs of death, but Phantasm, you have the orbs of death.
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  The spheres of death.
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  so them making a Frisbee with razor blades to to fight is kind of funny.
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  Ryan: I wanna say the running man had like this, like a circular Frisbee
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  possibly, or at least circular sauce that were just like floating in air.
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  Um, I, I'm trying to remember if it was during the icing
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  or during the laser scene.
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  another great movie.
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  Kearns: Another great movie.
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  We need the Bachman books to produce, um, the Long Walk.
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  Like now
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  Jon: Yes,
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  Ryan: yes,
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  Kearns: for real.
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  Jon: yes.
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  Kearns: so we've got, we've got this one, um, that we get pulled
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  right into the action from the back of the, the hearse yoked into the
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  action again, as they would say.
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  Um, then where's the, like the middle point of the journey
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  bringing us with Mike and Reggie?
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  Where are they headed?
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  Ryan: I was gonna say real quick, you miss your quadruple shotgun in the beginning,
• 6:35
  Kern, he blows like four lurkers out on the ground and then he like does like
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  a whole thing where he shoots it in the air and they just drop one by one.
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  Each lurker is like boom, boom, boom.
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  And then
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  Kearns: Slamming into the ground.
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  Ryan: it's like, it's
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  Kearns: I didn't know we.
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  Ryan: Oh no.
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  I mean I remember that 'cause it was just like a funny scene plus it's like
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  kinda sets like what the tone is and then I'll be honest, it's the only
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  type of film where I enjoy the recap 'cause uh, Coscarelli does it so well.
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  'cause sometimes you see like a recap in a movie with like old clips,
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  like a puppet master or something.
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  It's like, oh god.
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  Okay.
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  But it fits so well in the Fanm universe because of like.
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  The distance of years between each film, it works and I do enjoy those recaps,
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  to be honest, for once in a film.
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  Kearns: they needed it.
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  What was it?
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  Nine years?
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  Ryan: yeah,
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  Kearns: 88 to 94.
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  Six years.
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  Ryan: six years.
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  Six years, I.
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  Kearns: Uh, it's not too long.
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  That's not too long.
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  Not like the first one was a big jump.
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  from movie one to two rather.
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  So yeah.
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  What were the standouts for the, uh, nineties version compared to the seventies
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  version and the eighties version?
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  It's like once a decade you get a Phantasm.
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  Jon: I, I like that he sort of upgrades the spheres with every movie.
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  they become a little more complex now.
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  They kind of have brains and they have the ability to like have a
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  consciousness like my brother, the sphere, but really is in fear.
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  Kearns: Gotcha.
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  Jon: definitely like that touch.
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  Ryan: It's like invasion of the body snatchers in a way.
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  It's like harvesting the brains in the sphere.
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  Like have like their own, I guess their own thought process
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  because Jodi breaks through.
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  So it kind of questions like, can the other spheres break through?
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  Like do they have, like, they have to have a mind of their own,
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  like how are they controlling it?
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  And it kind of makes, you wanna see a fourth, the fourth one, and of
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  course the fifth one, just to see if they'll answer that question.
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  Kearns: Yeah.
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  Well, there's another one for the decade of the nineties.
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  This, I think that's the only double up, uh, decade.
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  So Phantasm four takes place in light.
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  I was came out in 98, maybe
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  Ryan: Yep.
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  98.
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  Kearns: something,
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  Ryan: It
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  Kearns: and then 2016 we jump all the way to 2016 for Phantasm five.
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  All.
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  Ravager, it's all Coscarelli, right?
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  There's no like rogue directors?
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  No.
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  Okay.
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  Ryan: I was.
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  Jon: A.
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  Kearns: Oh, money grab.
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  It's like when, uh, Abrams and Spielberg get together, you know,
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  you know what's going on there.
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  I.
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  Jon: Thing we missed out with the fan is the JJ abrasion
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  Kearns: Oh,
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  Jon: he did the rema, his company did the rema.
• 9:38
  Kearns: his company did.
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  Jon: It's a bad robot.
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  Ryan: I thought it was Anchor Bay.
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  I have an Anchor Bay Edition.
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  Jon: Yeah.
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  There is an anchor.
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  There is an anchor bay one, but um, bad robot did the remaster.
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  They came out around the time.
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  Ryan: Oh, that's gotta
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  Kearns: Okay.
• 9:57
  Ryan: that if that, that's with the painting on the cover
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  are, it's like a painting on
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  Jon: Yes.
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  Ryan: was like painted on.
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  Oh yeah.
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  That was a nice, that was a nice cover.
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  Just Angus Grimm right in your face like young Angus Grimm.
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  Kearns: The sexy one,
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  Ryan: Yeah,
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  just,
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  Kearns: I guess he has two other versions that could qualify.
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  Ryan: just writing those liner notes in the background.
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  I still can't believe that I was thinking about that.
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  I was doing the short.
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  I'm like, man, I've listened to some Beatles songs and I, all I can dig
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  is the tall man, just like in the background holding a sphere or two.
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  Kearns: So three, three in a lot of ways, um, it, it kind of leaves horror
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  and moves towards action a little bit, but it has a similar, like on the
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  Dusty Road vibe, they're continuing to travel through towns that have
• 10:45
  been destroyed by Angus Angus Scrim.
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  what a name.
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  Yeah.
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  So they're, they're, they're aming their way through.
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  Right.
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  And then they're also finding other rageful people to
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  kill the tall man with them.
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  And that's Reggie's lust gets, you know, brought up there too.
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  But, um, there's a little boy too, a murderous little boy.
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  What's the deal with him?
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  Jon: Really resourceful.
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  And Reggie drag, he drags himself along with Reggie.
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  Reggie keeps trying to pawn him off like he finds like an orphanage.
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  And, uh, Tim, you're gonna stay here.
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  That doesn't take, you know, he doesn't want him with him.
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  Kearns: Well, that's because Reggie's, he's stag now.
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  His family blew up now he's, he's living his best life out there.
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  You know, single reg.
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  Jon: No, Tim?
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  No Mike, no.
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  Nobody to get in the way of Reggie getting laid
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  Kearns: Exactly.
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  So, and then, uh, that's actually a funny little trope.
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  The unwanted orphan.
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  Ryan: He paid that woman like 200 bucks and like he still
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  still got stuck with them.
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  But Tim saves him.
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  He saves him the revolver
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  Kearns: Yeah.
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  You knew he would, you knew he would.
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  Ryan: But that leads to
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  Kearns: Well.
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  Ryan: first,
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  oh God, even in that scene, he gets like handcuffed and like pushed around by, um,
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  Tanisha and Rocky and it's like, he's like trying to warn him and they're just like,
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  I don't know what you're talking about.
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  Because their whole, again, the whole town's ravaged, so
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  it's like everything's gone.
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  It's deserted, there's scavengers.
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  It's.
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  Everyone's become a scavenger by that time.
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  It's got, you know, I was thinking it's not like that.
• 12:36
  It's like that dark tower vibe, but it's also like a mad Max vibe as well.
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  You know, you just mix missing Max Roth, steady.
• 12:43
  I.
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  Jon: Yeah.
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  The other thing, thing I'm starting to pick it get into there is where the matrix
• 12:49
  could have been influenced from this.
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  Because when you start to get into that dream stuff, it's almost like it's, and
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  it will really get into like of what's reality versus what's actually reality.
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  You definitely like as it, you can sort of sense it's starting to come, but
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  when you get especially to five, there's stuff that's like very matrix feeling.
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  Kearns: I like that though because that's the idea of a Phantasm.
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  It stays true to the, the whole plot, you know what I mean?
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  Jon: Mm-hmm.
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  Kearns: The whole beginning of the, the story that is, um, where you're
• 13:27
  not sure you're in a state of dementia.
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  Ryan: And
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  Kearns: Of Vibe.
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  Ryan: they really play with that in this one 'cause it's like in and out through
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  dreams throughout the entire time.
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  Kearns: Mm-hmm.
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  Ryan: Or at least how he wrote it, because it's like one minute, it's like a
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  dream sequence and we know it's a dream, you know, Jody's like, come on Reg.
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  And he's trying to have sex with Rocky.
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  He's like, come on, you gotta, you know, gotta leave me alone, Jody.
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  And Jody's like, all right, you know, it's a dream.
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  And he's like, we gotta save Mike.
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  they find Mike strapped, uh, strapped in with the tall man
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  and stuff, and they rescue him.
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  And then they're back in the real world.
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  So it's like what is real?
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  What is fake?
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  It is the fanm.
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  You know, they are going into mania slowly but surely.
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  Jon: Yeah, definitely.
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  They, they definitely, start to lose track of where, what the actual reality is.
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  Maybe my brother isn't really
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  Ryan: He's a burnt out sphere.
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  Jon: bad.
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  Ryan: Oh.
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  After like he's like all charred now, but he's still able to move like.
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  We'll talk about like the goons and stuff later on, the looters and all
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  that, but that scene where it gets rufuss, it's a pretty cool scene.
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  the practical effects in in this film were pretty well, well done.
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  I think it was like a $2 million budget in this one, 2,600,000.
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  Kearns: 94.
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  That's, that's pretty interesting.
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  You know, to stretch 2 million in 94 is a hell of a lot different than an 88.
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  Ryan: I, this has been on a rollercoaster ride of like budgets.
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  It starts from 300,000, from Phantasm to 3 million to, I apologize.
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  I'm gonna go back.
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  It was 2,500,000 on the budget.
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  And then by the fourth one, that's when it starts.
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  I. Decreasing again, but we will see.
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  Kearns: Uh, they, they produced the horror movie level stuff in the fourth one.
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  Pretty sure.
• 15:25
  Jon: So what, what happens with the third is it almost gets canceled anyway.
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  So the guy at Universal who was like gung ho about getting this made.
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  Uh, Roger Blattner, who died in a plane crash before Phantasm three.
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  I don't, I don't even think there was a script yet, but he had
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  green lit. He was like, I'll go.
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  So the guy who replaced him decided he was going to honor all the existing deals,
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  but not to the level that the.
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  Ryan: Okay.
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  Jon: decide no theatrical run for Phantasm three.
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  Coscarelli had put in his contract that if they decided there would
• 16:07
  be no theatrical run, it would get like two weeks trial in two cities.
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  So it actually plays in Grand Rapids and Baton Rouge.
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  Ryan: And it was the highest grossing right?
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  Jon: Yeah, it did really well in those two cities, but that was it.
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  And then doesn't get Blockbuster, so block it.
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  Blockbuster didn't carry it initially.
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  It's a direct, it got caught up in a feud between Universal
• 16:37
  McDonald's and Blockbuster.
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  Yeah, I didn't EI ne I never knew this, but in that like 94, 95 was doing,
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  a burger, get a VHS tape for five.
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  Kearns: Oh my God, yes.
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  Jon: So wasn't part of that, but like, you're gonna cut us out of this and
• 17:04
  sell movies for $5 at McDonald's.
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  But they didn't quite have, have the nerve to say, that's it.
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  We're not taking any universal movies.
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  They just took the top tier ones and everything below.
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  They were like, Nope, we're not gonna stock that.
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  Kearns: Yeah.
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  Jon: Phantasm three gets cut out of, out of Blockbuster as well.
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  Interestingly, I got really curious about this and I wanted to, number
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  one, I didn't believe that this was true because how did I miss this?
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  Like I was, that was my prime McDonald's eating era and like the very
• 17:36
  beginning of my VHS collecting era.
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  So how did I miss that?
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  There's a copy of Field of Dreams with the golden arches on it.
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  No way for five bucks.
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  They're sticking to the original price too.
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  It's honorable.
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  Ryan: Two, five.
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  Kearns: I don't know.
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  We had, we carried this damn ninja Turtles cups from Mickey
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  D's for like a billion years.
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  I. Like a billion, um, and stuff like that.
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  Those were, those were hot commodity items.
• 18:09
  All the, if you had a glass, glass for Mickey D's when that was going on.
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  Ryan: The be in forever
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  Kearns: Yep.
• 18:17
  Ryan: crystallized.
• 18:19
  Jon: In the seventies, they had ones with like their, the
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  McDonald's characters on them,
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  Ryan: that's
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  Kearns: Oh, nice.
• 18:25
  Jon: allowed.
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  We had all of them, but we were never allowed to because it turned
• 18:30
  out there was, it was like lead.
• 18:32
  Kearns: Oh my God, dude,
• 18:34
  Ryan: I
• 18:34
  Kearns: like asbestos,
• 18:37
  Ryan: I was waiting for you to say it's a collector's item.
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  'cause that's like
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  Kearns: it.
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  Jon: it's probably worth a fortune, but No, no, we weren't
• 18:44
  allowed to because there in.
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  Kearns: It would most certainly be worth the fortune 'cause they, uh, they likely
• 18:51
  destroyed many of them, and that means that there's not many in circulation.
• 18:56
  And then also you add the niche aspect of it poisoned kids.
• 19:00
  That's why your uncle Larry's always mad because he drank outta one
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  of those every day for 17 years.
• 19:07
  Yeah.
• 19:07
  There you go.
• 19:09
  There you go.
• 19:10
  I think that's what lead did, right?
• 19:11
  Made everybody mad.
• 19:12
  And RFK told us they put fluoride in the water to calm everybody down.
• 19:20
  Oh, this is a Phantasm.
• 19:22
  We're living in a Phantasm.
• 19:27
  but that's amazing.
• 19:29
  That whole arc, McDonald's blockbuster arc is amazing and something I
• 19:33
  never, ever would've guessed.
• 19:36
  Um, did they ever start carrying it at Blockbuster?
• 19:39
  Jon: I think eventually, because I think I did at some point rent
• 19:42
  that from Blockbuster, but it
• 19:44
  Kearns: Okay.
• 19:45
  Jon: it was not a time that would've been meaningful for Coscarelli, the series,
• 19:51
  Kearns: Yeah.
• 19:52
  Jon: especially being direct to video.
• 19:54
  Ryan: I think it would've been a big seller at Blockbuster,
• 19:56
  especially at that time.
• 19:57
  'cause
• 19:58
  Jon: Absolutely.
• 20:00
  Ryan: horror film on Friday night and it's like, oh, this
• 20:02
  Jon: Mm-hmm.
• 20:03
  Ryan: Direct a video or
• 20:04
  Jon: Yeah.
• 20:04
  Ryan: Like brings more people to
• 20:06
  Jon: Yeah.
• 20:08
  Ryan: your
• 20:08
  Jon: And like,
• 20:09
  Ryan: or Sam Goody.
• 20:10
  Jon: yeah.
• 20:14
  Blockbuster put out a lot of the mom and pops, so you couldn't go up the street
• 20:19
  to one of those to get Phantasm three.
• 20:22
  You just, and you didn't have the Hollywood videos and the real challengers,
• 20:26
  at least in this area that time.
• 20:30
  So, you know, you get, you get a movie that can't get distribution.
• 20:33
  Kearns: I forgot about Hollywood video.
• 20:35
  How dare they?
• 20:37
  How dare they?
• 20:38
  That's not their lawn.
• 20:40
  Stay back.
• 20:41
  The little like dinky hole in the wall Video stores.
• 20:45
  Yeah, keep them around.
• 20:46
  There's always some guy there that you wanna run into.
• 20:48
  He knows like he knows things about things.
• 20:51
  Ryan: And then you had the, uh, bead at room in the back.
• 20:54
  Jon: Yeah,
• 20:55
  Ryan: there
• 20:56
  Jon: there.
• 20:56
  Ryan: not
• 20:57
  Kearns: Yeah.
• 20:57
  There's always a curtain or like an accordion door.
• 21:03
  Yep.
• 21:04
  That was one stop video.
• 21:06
  They had the saloon doors, right?
• 21:08
  Jon: Okay.
• 21:08
  The one in the Bazaar Mall had them too.
• 21:11
  Kearns: Oh, I didn't know that they had those in the Bizarre mall too.
• 21:15
  Jon: Yeah, man.
• 21:16
  Kearns: Kids are going to try on jeans and you're picking up smut right next door.
• 21:20
  Jon: they also had like I spit on your grave and a couple of other movies,
• 21:24
  like out with the regular stuff, but they had like cardboard over
• 21:28
  the covers and just like handwritten I spit on your grave on there.
• 21:32
  And that made me wanna see it way more.
• 21:35
  Kearns: Yeah, but that's part of it.
• 21:36
  Jon: You one, they made a taboo.
• 21:39
  They made it a taboo movie.
• 21:40
  And then it's like, now I have to see that.
• 21:43
  And then you watch it.
• 21:45
  That's disturbing.
• 21:46
  But you.
• 21:48
  Kearns: And we were of the era too, where there was nothing else to
• 21:51
  do, but to pursue the forbidden.
• 21:53
  Literally nothing else to do.
• 21:54
  I mean, the internet did come around a bit as I got, uh, into my later
• 21:58
  teens, but it was nothing that kept you out of trouble, tell you that much.
• 22:01
  Nobody was sitting on the couch scrolling through shit.
• 22:03
  You were out and about trying to get to the nudie section at one stop video.
• 22:07
  Jon: You, you couldn't scroll through shit on your, on the original internet anyway.
• 22:12
  It would like, like you'd look at smut and like, it would like load
• 22:16
  like a line at a time and, okay, it's a blonde, she has a forehead.
• 22:22
  Kearns: And a mustache.
• 22:23
  Jon: it would.
• 22:28
  Ryan: It'll stopped
• 22:29
  Jon: isn't.
• 22:31
  Ryan: loading.
• 22:33
  Kearns: I found more stuff like that rather than looking myself.
• 22:36
  I found more stuff like that when people's computers would break and
• 22:39
  they'd be like, Armenio needs help.
• 22:41
  His, his desktop isn't working properly.
• 22:43
  And I'd be like, it's a lot of zip drive disks you've got over there, Armenio.
• 22:47
  What are you saving on?
• 22:48
  Those?
• 22:49
  Like nothing.
• 22:50
  And then he would look and see exactly what he was up to for the
• 22:53
  last 300 hours, like Jesus Christ.
• 22:57
  I bet you there are archives, like people kick the bucket and people are
• 23:01
  just going through their stuff and finding like thousands of floppy a
• 23:06
  disks and stuff with random things.
• 23:09
  Jon: Yeah, no
• 23:11
  Kearns: Maybe not floppy, but definitely zip drives.
• 23:13
  Oh, I bet you there's some CDRs out there too, Ryan.
• 23:16
  Ryan: Oh God.
• 23:18
  Kearns: There's gonna be a lot of stuff on those CDRs.
• 23:22
  Ryan: There's a lot of
• 23:22
  Kearns: megabytes.
• 23:24
  Ryan: There's a lot of history to be wiped out.
• 23:27
  It's like cyberpunk, cyberpunk is coming alive in the real world.
• 23:32
  Just the whole idea of everyone gr getting, gaining information.
• 23:35
  I mean, we've been getting information or, uh, over the years, but it's like
• 23:39
  that whole technology vibe of like, it's just like one rush and it's all there.
• 23:44
  Kearns: Zuckerberg's trying to turn this into Ready Player One too.
• 23:47
  He wants like, the world sucks, but join the Metaverse.
• 23:50
  It'll be better, but it's not, it's not ready Player one yet.
• 23:54
  Ryan: we've seen The Matrix.
• 23:55
  It's.
• 23:57
  Jon: not.
• 23:59
  Kearns: Yeah, good point.
• 24:02
  Um, so segueing back to Fanta, there's not much to talk about.
• 24:07
  It's, it's very similar.
• 24:09
  I think John probably just churned up the best tidbit of trivia
• 24:13
  about any movie maybe on this one.
• 24:16
  But what else is there that makes this movie stand out?
• 24:19
  Any backstories, uh, things that happened on set or anything you guys are aware of?
• 24:23
  Ryan: it won a Fangoria Chainsaw award for its limited release, which is pretty cool.
• 24:27
  Kearns: That is cool.
• 24:28
  Jon: I mean, even, even in.
• 24:37
  Kearns: There was a lot of cocaine getting around at that time.
• 24:39
  He was probably, you know, he was busy.
• 24:42
  Jon: You know, they, there's talk about like the hearse stunt, you know, jumping
• 24:46
  to hearse and flipping it, but mostly
• 24:49
  Ryan: was cool.
• 24:49
  Jon: for the most part, that's like, yeah, like that's a great scene
• 24:53
  Kearns: That was their favorite thing to do in movies back then was that little
• 24:56
  explosion ramp that the car would drive up that would launch them to the side.
• 25:00
  It was in every movie from like 91 through.
• 25:05
  Ryan: The actress looked excited while they were heading for it.
• 25:07
  It was like they had enough time to move away.
• 25:10
  And the one character, was it Ru Rufuss, right?
• 25:12
  He's just like smiling, Ugh.
• 25:14
  But Edna, Edna takes a beating.
• 25:16
  She gets cracked in the face.
• 25:18
  She gets ran over, hatchet to the head, sphere through the head.
• 25:23
  She takes like the worst beating out of any character in this
• 25:27
  movie series I've seen so far.
• 25:29
  Jon: Yeah.
• 25:30
  Yeah.
• 25:31
  And Fanm three is also the one that sort of establishes a Fanm rule for
• 25:35
  me, and that's don't get attached.
• 25:38
  Ryan: Yeah.
• 25:40
  Jon: The only character or actor you can get attached to is
• 25:44
  Reggie because everybody else.
• 25:46
  Could die or just vanish from quad or just like never be back.
• 25:52
  I don't wanna spoil too much, but Rocky's not back for four.
• 25:56
  Kearns: Okay.
• 25:57
  Jon: back for five.
• 25:58
  She's
• 25:59
  Kearns: Okay.
• 25:59
  Jon: four.
• 26:01
  Kearns: Okay.
• 26:01
  Jon: like it's, you just can't get attached to anybody in this series
• 26:05
  who's not Reggie the Tallman.
• 26:10
  Ryan: so what about Mike?
• 26:14
  Jon: I mean you but I mean, yeah, because he's not really there in two,
• 26:20
  Ryan: he's
• 26:21
  Jon: it's the character, but it's not Mike.
• 26:23
  It, I mean, James LaRose did, did a fine, a fine job into, but he is not Mike
• 26:30
  Michael Baldwin, that's that character.
• 26:33
  Yeah.
• 26:34
  Kearns: Not Mike.
• 26:36
  It's not Mike, Mike.
• 26:37
  Ryan: Mike,
• 26:38
  Jon: That could have been a fun touch though.
• 26:39
  That could have been a fun touch though if, um, Coscarelli had sort
• 26:43
  of written that of the parts of two with Mike as like dream and like
• 26:50
  that wasn't really you, was it?
• 26:52
  And like just establish it that way bring Mike back the real.
• 26:58
  Ryan: That would've been cool.
• 27:00
  I do.
• 27:01
  I.
• 27:04
  I while the tall man's changing him as to one of his underlings by the end of it.
• 27:08
  That was, again, going back to the effects that was pretty cool as he's like peeling
• 27:12
  his face back and he's got like the sphere underneath him, like the practical effects
• 27:17
  in this, like the, the gore level on it.
• 27:19
  It's pretty, it's tasty to put it like that.
• 27:22
  Like it's got like, it, it flows nicely.
• 27:25
  Um, know, just to go back real quick, 'cause you're talking
• 27:28
  about like whole mic and all that.
• 27:30
  Um.
• 27:30
  And the tall man, but the spheres.
• 27:33
  The spheres get a lot of action in this film.
• 27:35
  I feel like more action than they have in the last two.
• 27:39
  Kearns: Practical effects, I think made it easier to have a lot of sphere time.
• 27:42
  Jon: Yeah, they got better at doing sphere things so they
• 27:45
  could put more sphere stuff in.
• 27:47
  Kearns: Plus it's a good time.
• 27:48
  Like it's a good way to pad the runtime a little bit too.
• 27:50
  Spheres zipping around.
• 27:52
  Jon: Mm-hmm.
• 27:52
  Kearns: mean, the spheres, like you, you were saying in the first
• 27:55
  Phantasm two episodes ago that they were throwing them like a baseball.
• 28:00
  Jon: Mm-hmm.
• 28:00
  Kearns: and then in the second one, they definitely didn't just do that.
• 28:03
  That, and then you can tell there's a big jump in Phantasm three
• 28:06
  when you're watching the spheres.
• 28:08
  It's not like the Alien Spaceships and Independence Day bad, but it's
• 28:12
  definitely nineties, like special effects.
• 28:14
  Jon: Yeah, there's a period in of time where the advances in special effects
• 28:19
  were tremendous, but if you look back and watch them, they're so bad.
• 28:25
  Kearns: Yeah.
• 28:25
  Ryan: Yeah.
• 28:26
  Jon: fires in particular
• 28:29
  Kearns: Mm-hmm.
• 28:29
  Jon: aged particularly well from like mid to late nineties to like 2, 5, 6 range,
• 28:37
  Kearns: Except for Conair.
• 28:39
  Jon: except for.
• 28:40
  Kearns: an immaculate film.
• 28:41
  Yeah.
• 28:41
  I'm glad we all agree.
• 28:43
  Ryan: Yeah, I.
• 28:43
  Jon: is immaculate.
• 28:44
  It's the exception to everything.
• 28:46
  Kearns: But like, um, independence Day was a good example of
• 28:48
  just the spaceship CGI stuff.
• 28:50
  'cause you could see the greenness, it's really bizarre behind them.
• 28:54
  But the, like the city explosion scenes and stuff are models, so
• 28:57
  that's okay because you're actually like getting that, that old school
• 29:02
  Godzilla sort of experience.
• 29:04
  Um, but like the rock.
• 29:06
  And stuff.
• 29:07
  I a hundred percent understand what John's saying.
• 29:09
  Although it's also a fantastic film when the explosions are happening and stuff.
• 29:14
  Like take a look at the Rock again guys, and you'll see what John's talking about.
• 29:19
  Ryan: Equal to James Bond, do you mean?
• 29:22
  Kearns: Oh, that's another good one.
• 29:24
  Pierce Psin.
• 29:25
  James Bond movies also probably don't hold up very well.
• 29:28
  Ryan: No,
• 29:30
  Jon: You definitely
• 29:30
  Kearns: No,
• 29:30
  Jon: some of that.
• 29:33
  Kearns: yeah.
• 29:33
  Ryan: find for us, not for the later generation.
• 29:37
  Kearns: I'm sure, I'm sure that's gonna be a problem for Gen Z and Gen Alpha.
• 29:41
  Um, they just won't be able.
• 29:43
  I watched the Princess Bride with my kids and the Goonies.
• 29:46
  The Goonies was tough.
• 29:47
  They're young, so maybe if they were a little older, but they, their
• 29:50
  attention, their ability to watch like Cory Hamme try to stutter out a
• 29:54
  couple extra lines and stuff like that.
• 29:56
  And it's not quick, quick, quick, quick, quick.
• 29:59
  It's a different animal.
• 30:01
  Jon: Has all changed already.
• 30:04
  Kearns: Yep.
• 30:04
  Well, everything's fast.
• 30:05
  Gotta be fast.
• 30:06
  Jon: It's, but it's sort of like when we were that age too and a little older
• 30:10
  and you know, your parents would put a black and white movie on and be like,
• 30:15
  Kearns: Yeah, it took me a while.
• 30:17
  Ryan: Yep.
• 30:17
  Jon: why is there not color?
• 30:18
  They're like, what?
• 30:18
  What are we watching here?
• 30:19
  Why are they talking so much and why did nothing blow up?
• 30:23
  And.
• 30:23
  Kearns: Yeah, it, it definitely took me a while to get to like
• 30:27
  appreciating that sort of art.
• 30:29
  Um, I took that into account when I wrote the books.
• 30:31
  By the way, the Valor, Val Howa series books is incredibly fast paced because
• 30:36
  I figured people Would be tough to rope in and keep roped in, but readers
• 30:41
  are a different animal, so I think they're still able to hold their
• 30:44
  attention down on a decent read anyway.
• 30:47
  Ryan: We're in that middle.
• 30:48
  Um, I feel when it comes with film nowadays, 'cause you got a film like
• 30:53
  Satu that comes out this past December and it goes over two hours and watching
• 30:58
  it, you wouldn't imagine the current generation 'cause everything is fast
• 31:03
  paced to hold their attention, It held some of the attention, but I
• 31:08
  feel like it's the cinematography too.
• 31:10
  But
• 31:11
  Kearns: Yeah.
• 31:12
  Ryan: again, on that thin line of everything is either too
• 31:14
  fast or too long and it's like the, it's gotta find its niche.
• 31:20
  Like you go back to the eighties and most, I'd say just mostly the eighties.
• 31:24
  You had a good niche of a good time run of movies where it just hit the right
• 31:29
  spot where a good action film can be.
• 31:32
  85, 90 minutes.
• 31:33
  Same thing with horror.
• 31:35
  Hit all the spots and it'll work.
• 31:37
  And it's same thing for a drama.
• 31:39
  It could be two hours, over two hours.
• 31:41
  It doesn't need to be three hours and it'll hit the spot.
• 31:44
  But
• 31:45
  Kearns: of, by the way, um, it's already lost a few Oscars, but
• 31:49
  it's still in contention for cinematography and costume design.
• 31:54
  Ryan: I,
• 31:54
  Kearns: So I've been keeping an eye on it.
• 31:57
  Ryan: I'd go with that.
• 31:58
  I, I would go with them.
• 31:59
  Winning on that cinematography would be cool.
• 32:01
  Costume design, uh, just for the stash.
• 32:04
  Kearns: I'm still pissed about, um, leading actress de not
• 32:08
  being up for leading actress.
• 32:09
  There's only five people.
• 32:10
  It's a freaking sham, but yeah, actress in a leading role is definitely
• 32:14
  going to be either Carla Sophia Goone or Cynthia Vo and Wicked.
• 32:19
  It's Emelia Perez v. Wicked on that.
• 32:21
  I'll be shocked if anybody else wins it.
• 32:23
  But
• 32:25
  Ryan: Yeah, I was
• 32:26
  Kearns: you're rooting for to me more.
• 32:27
  Ryan: Yep.
• 32:28
  Kearns: I don't know if she's got a shot.
• 32:29
  The substance.
• 32:30
  She could, I mean, it's, to me she's due, like you said.
• 32:37
  Yeah, and it's a weak pool.
• 32:39
  You're right about that.
• 32:40
  This is a really weak year, so it's a good year for them to give her
• 32:43
  the nod just to give it to her.
• 32:45
  Ryan: Won't
• 32:45
  Jon: mean, I don't want to go too far.
• 32:47
  No, I don't wanna go too far from Fanm with this, but I mean, this is
• 32:51
  possibly the least interesting field of best picture nominees in a long time.
• 32:57
  Ryan: Yeah.
• 32:58
  Kearns: It, I tapped out.
• 32:59
  Um, it's streaming a, b, C on Hulu and I was trying to get it pulled up.
• 33:03
  And Hulu is, being in Hulu is one of the worst apps in the history of apps,
• 33:08
  so it's just being a pain in the butt.
• 33:10
  It won't let me log in.
• 33:11
  I have to go into here.
• 33:12
  I have to change my home location, whatever.
• 33:14
  I was like, oh, well, I don't actually care.
• 33:16
  I kind of wanted to see Conan say something funny here or there.
• 33:19
  I was like, I'll just catch the YouTube recap tomorrow, or something like that.
• 33:22
  This is gonna suck anyway.
• 33:24
  Ryan: People.
• 33:25
  People are talking about John Cena turning heel at elimination chamber more than what
• 33:29
  they're talking about the Oscars tonight.
• 33:30
  All right.
• 33:33
  Jon: I mean it's true.
• 33:35
  Well, but that, that's sort of the Oscars failing at this point anyway.
• 33:39
  They expanded the field of best picture nominees, what, five,
• 33:43
  six years ago, so they could try to include more blockbusters
• 33:47
  in it, and they still are like.
• 33:50
  Listen, some of these movies could be great.
• 33:53
  I've heard the brutalist is fantastic.
• 33:55
  It's three and a half hours, so I'll probably never see it and nobody else
• 33:59
  will either, largely for that reason, it's a three and a half hour movie.
• 34:03
  Kearns: Yeah, I think the last one of those I watched Marathon films
• 34:07
  was The Irishman, and it was worthy, but it was in my living room.
• 34:10
  I'm not gonna go to a theater and see a three and a half hour long movie.
• 34:13
  I hate people.
• 34:16
  I hear people breathe for three and a half hour.
• 34:19
  Jon: The, the same with conclave, like conclave I've heard is great.
• 34:23
  Uh, do I want to sit for however long that movie is and watch how they pick the pope?
• 34:29
  Probably
• 34:29
  Kearns: No.
• 34:30
  No.
• 34:30
  'cause we know it's the same way that everybody does everything anyway.
• 34:33
  Jon: okay
• 34:34
  Kearns: a freaking, it's a politically driven nightmare.
• 34:37
  Well, I don't want to get crazy into it.
• 34:38
  I'm gonna piss off the Christians.
• 34:40
  Ryan: I.
• 34:40
  Kearns: Yeah.
• 34:42
  Ryan: I thought they were using straws.
• 34:44
  Shortest straw.
• 34:45
  You win.
• 34:46
  Kearns: I am gonna be seeing a conclave soon anyway.
• 34:49
  But
• 34:50
  Jon: No.
• 34:51
  Kearns: Sorry, Papa.
• 34:52
  Jon: Too soon?
• 34:54
  Kearns: No.
• 34:54
  Is he dead yet?
• 34:56
  Jon: No.
• 34:56
  Kearns: Did he?
• 34:57
  Tim Curry.
• 34:57
  Okay.
• 34:58
  Ryan: No,
• 34:58
  Kearns: No, I don't think so either.
• 35:00
  Ryan: no.
• 35:00
  Kearns: How's, um, speaking of people in ailing health though, and all
• 35:03
  kidding aside, how is Reggie holding up?
• 35:05
  I know he entered hospice Home Hospice.
• 35:08
  Do we have any word.
• 35:09
  Jon: So Don Costelli posted this week that he had gone to visit
• 35:13
  him and he posted a picture.
• 35:15
  He looks okay, I guess he, I guess he was with it enough that they read a
• 35:20
  bunch of the letters together and think it was, he said it was a, you know,
• 35:24
  a good experience though, you know.
• 35:27
  Ryan: That's good though.
• 35:28
  Like a good experience is better than a bad experience,
• 35:31
  Kearns: That's sad.
• 35:32
  Happy I'm, I'm sad.
• 35:34
  Happy for, for that experience.
• 35:37
  That sucks, man.
• 35:38
  That sucks.
• 35:39
  The end of life stuff's brutal.
• 35:40
  Not you, Reggie.
• 35:42
  Do you think he's still like lusting in his home?
• 35:44
  Hospice do like the, the,
• 35:47
  Jon: Absolutely.
• 35:48
  Kearns: yeah.
• 35:48
  The CNA comes over and he's like, eh boy.
• 35:56
  He's, he's lived so long.
• 35:57
  He is become his own villain.
• 36:02
  Ryan: Lemme play you a limerick.
• 36:04
  Kearns: so what other fun loving stuff about Phantasm three do
• 36:07
  you guys have to throw out there before we get into your top fives?
• 36:10
  Ryan: 1996 La Timesed was on the top of a hundred.
• 36:14
  Sell, uh, highest selling direct to videos, which is pretty cool at that time.
• 36:18
  It, it's a high selling, uh, three.
• 36:21
  Cool.
• 36:21
  For any film,
• 36:22
  Kearns: Oh.
• 36:23
  Ryan: which is crazy because like Fanm, it's in that B-movie range,
• 36:28
  you know the first one like 1979, and then you get rental stores.
• 36:33
  It's hard to come up, buy it, come buy it.
• 36:35
  The second one gets a little more of a push.
• 36:37
  You can get access to it, so you get familiar with the story.
• 36:40
  And then the third one is just like grew in popularity.
• 36:44
  I mean, at the time, I mean, what, what have running
• 36:46
  against Leprechaun, stilt skin.
• 36:52
  Kearns: It's a different animal than those.
• 36:53
  Plus you're a peak tower, Sam Goody, um, your Borders bookstores are popping up.
• 36:59
  Like you, you can get your hands on these things, um, in
• 37:02
  a lot of different locations.
• 37:03
  So I could see that definitely boosting sales quite a bit.
• 37:07
  Jon: Affordable VHS has become affordable by this point.
• 37:11
  So
• 37:15
  until you couldn't own v Hs, unless you were extremely wealthy,
• 37:20
  they were hundred dollars tapes.
• 37:22
  Kearns: Yeah, I remember Jurassic Park was 50 bucks when it launched.
• 37:26
  Do you remember that?
• 37:27
  Yeah.
• 37:27
  50 bucks for a VHS of Jurassic Park.
• 37:30
  Ryan: I
• 37:31
  Kearns: I.
• 37:31
  Ryan: like the highest paying was like 20 bucks maybe.
• 37:35
  I mean,
• 37:35
  Kearns: Usually it was 1999.
• 37:37
  Yeah,
• 37:37
  Ryan: yeah, like Suncoast, like Titanic maybe was like 35 bucks.
• 37:41
  That was the most expensive tape I ever saw, but 50 bucks for Jurassic Park.
• 37:46
  That is crazy.
• 37:47
  Kearns: you're talking like day of launch too.
• 37:50
  It, uh, it was a, it was rough.
• 37:53
  I remember looking at it as a child, I was like, this is wrong.
• 37:57
  Ryan: Why can I see you in a sea of people fighting?
• 37:59
  Trying to grab the tape.
• 38:00
  It's mine
• 38:02
  Kearns: No, it did not go down that way.
• 38:04
  I want 50 bucks.
• 38:05
  That will never be mine.
• 38:06
  Jon: Nope.
• 38:07
  Kearns: Now it's in like a Walmart bargain bin
• 38:10
  Jon: Yeah,
• 38:10
  Kearns: 39 cents.
• 38:11
  Jon: so you go to like Blockbuster and you come home and you'd have
• 38:14
  the the two VCR set, so you could.
• 38:17
  Ryan: record.
• 38:18
  Jon: From one tape to the.
• 38:20
  Kearns: That brings back memories.
• 38:22
  Ryan: Oh God.
• 38:25
  Kearns: All right, so
• 38:27
  Ryan: I was just thinking about just.
• 38:30
  These kids will never know these kids these days of recording and trying to
• 38:35
  stop the recording during a commercial.
• 38:36
  So you can have like a perfect movie and then you miss
• 38:39
  Kearns: yeah,
• 38:40
  Ryan: because you had to like get snacks or something.
• 38:43
  You're like, shit, all right,
• 38:45
  Kearns: recording.
• 38:46
  Ryan: that scene.
• 38:53
  Nope.
• 38:55
  Jon: they won.
• 38:55
  Know any of that?
• 38:58
  Kearns: Track you
• 38:59
  Jon: Yeah.
• 39:00
  Kearns: on a.
• 39:02
  Jon: Sitting start the right, he wouldn't come on at the end
• 39:08
  and talk through the outro like.
• 39:11
  Kearns: Like, God damn it.
• 39:13
  Yep.
• 39:13
  I remember those days Well, but all right.
• 39:17
  Phantasm three, not the only nineties Phantasm, but the only nineties
• 39:20
  Phantasm we're talking about tonight.
• 39:21
  You bastards.
• 39:23
  So we're going to roll into top fives, I believe.
• 39:28
  Ryan: Yeah.
• 39:29
  And uh, you know, I feel like we were talking about pH three and I wanna
• 39:34
  go with three qls, the third move
• 39:36
  Kearns: Okay.
• 39:36
  Ryan: the third move in the third movie uh, certain franchises that I love.
• 39:42
  I highly recommend and.
• 39:45
  There's like a familiar one on there, but I think the first one's
• 39:48
  definitely gonna be one of those where you're gonna be shocked.
• 39:51
  And I'm gonna start it off with Puppet Master three, Revenge.
• 39:56
  Um, love that movie.
• 39:58
  It is,
• 39:59
  Jon: You love Puppet.
• 40:01
  Kearns: Yeah, he's a big fan of.
• 40:02
  Ryan: Master.
• 40:04
  since I was a kid, that movie like Chucky, I wasn't afraid
• 40:08
  of those little marina dolls.
• 40:10
  Screw that man.
• 40:11
  But I've gotta fond love.
• 40:13
  It's.
• 40:14
  continuity, it doesn't make sense because, uh, uh, the puppet master, he dies in
• 40:21
  1939 and this film takes place in 1941.
• 40:25
  So there's continuity errors, but it introduces Leach woman as well as one
• 40:29
  of my favorite puppets, six shooter.
• 40:32
  the one with
• 40:33
  Kearns: I remember six.
• 40:34
  Ryan: the west he has the laugh.
• 40:36
  He looks like snidely whiplash.
• 40:37
  It's great.
• 40:38
  Um.
• 40:40
  I just love that film and it just, it sets off what in, I guess, a new time
• 40:45
  era, but that that whole era is all messed up and if, if we ever cover puppet
• 40:49
  master, that'll be definitely a discussion of how it goes all over the world.
• 40:54
  Kearns: How can we not, Ryan, how can we not when you love it so dearly?
• 41:02
  Probably we're gonna have to break them up.
• 41:05
  We'll have to do them like three per season.
• 41:11
  For real.
• 41:11
  Ryan: We need three in there.
• 41:13
  And puppet master versus demonic toys.
• 41:15
  Those are the biggest
• 41:16
  Kearns: yeah, that's a big one.
• 41:17
  That is a big one.
• 41:18
  But, um, all right.
• 41:20
  What's your fourth movie?
• 41:22
  Ryan: Fourth one hell raiser three hell on earth.
• 41:26
  Um, the Americanized hell raiser.
• 41:28
  Yeah, they, they Americanize it.
• 41:30
  There's a little connection to the second one because he's stuck
• 41:33
  in that stone, um, art craft.
• 41:36
  He's in the middle of the club.
• 41:38
  It, as it ends in the second one and transfers to the third one and
• 41:41
  all hell breaks loose, literally.
• 41:43
  But that's got some of my favorite eno bytes, especially the one
• 41:46
  with the, uh, the video recording.
• 41:49
  The guy who can shoot like the discs out of his mouth and
• 41:52
  the bartender who shoots fire.
• 41:54
  It's pretty cool stuff.
• 41:56
  And again, they made it more slasher, but what makes it fun.
• 42:00
  Uh, number two, or I'm sorry, number three.
• 42:03
  Uh, Friday 13th, part three.
• 42:06
  it's.
• 42:07
  I love part six, but part three, it just, you get the introduction
• 42:10
  of the mask, the cabin.
• 42:13
  Um, one of my favorite dead scenes is the one course 'cause it's in 3D.
• 42:18
  He shoots the arrow into the girl's eye, the spear gun.
• 42:22
  Um, just a fun movie and how it ends.
• 42:26
  It shows that he's indestructible and he's human.
• 42:30
  is when Jason was human, ladies and gentlemen.
• 42:32
  I'm just saying 'cause he was human part six.
• 42:36
  Uh, number
• 42:37
  Jon: Did you get,
• 42:39
  Ryan: Oh,
• 42:39
  Jon: don't wanna interrupt you, but did you get to see it?
• 42:43
  Ryan: No, I have not, I want to, it is on my like, bucket list.
• 42:49
  'cause I, I, it's 'cause it, they make it so much like with the broom
• 42:53
  coming in to like the camera and stuff.
• 42:56
  It's like, like I feel like with the older DVD.
• 42:59
  It's still implemented in like a 2D version, but that's definitely
• 43:04
  gotta be on the bucket list for that is on the bucket list.
• 43:07
  But imagine we can do a 3D movie, watch it.
• 43:11
  That'd be awesome.
• 43:13
  two.
• 43:13
  Halloween.
• 43:15
  Halloween, three season of the witch.
• 43:18
  Kearns: Yeah.
• 43:19
  Ryan: it's yeah, it's taken a long time for me to love it 'cause I love
• 43:23
  Kearns: Three more days to Halloween.
• 43:25
  Halloween.
• 43:25
  Halloween.
• 43:26
  Three more days to Halloween.
• 43:28
  Silver Shamrock.
• 43:30
  Yeah, I remember it well.
• 43:32
  I hated that movie as a kid.
• 43:34
  It was like such a lie to me.
• 43:35
  No, Michael Myers made me furious.
• 43:41
  I didn't see the advertisements.
• 43:42
  I was, I was, but a wheel lad.
• 43:45
  Halloween three was coming on.
• 43:46
  Oh boy.
• 43:49
  Ryan: Well, a MC would show Michael on the top of the steps, like
• 43:52
  in the movie, and they're like, get ready for Halloween three.
• 43:55
  You're like, oh, this is cool.
• 43:56
  And then it's just a
• 43:58
  Kearns: Yeah,
• 44:00
  Ryan: But
• 44:00
  Kearns: it's a.
• 44:02
  Ryan: yeah, as I say, you start loving as you get older.
• 44:04
  Tom Atkins from my bloody Valentine fame, um,
• 44:09
  Kearns: Yeah.
• 44:09
  Ryan: he's in it.
• 44:10
  It's, it's a good fill as it's, you gotta get used to it.
• 44:14
  I would say the whole fact that it's just a standalone.
• 44:17
  Not part
• 44:18
  Kearns: Yeah.
• 44:18
  Ryan: series I, it's a different vibe.
• 44:21
  And then, um,
• 44:22
  Kearns: You have to get used to the fact that it has nothing to do with
• 44:24
  the Halloween universe whatsoever.
• 44:27
  Ryan: no.
• 44:27
  Kearns: And they just, that's like, um, like Cloverfield esque.
• 44:30
  Like it, it's this Cloverfield lane.
• 44:33
  You bastards.
• 44:34
  We know what you're doing.
• 44:36
  Halloween three, we're gonna make a lot of money off of this movie that
• 44:39
  has nothing to do with Halloween.
• 44:42
  Ryan: What do you call it?
• 44:43
  It was, um, oh, who directed it?
• 44:45
  The guy who directed, uh, um, oh, child's
• 44:50
  Kearns: it John Carpenter?
• 44:51
  It wasn't John Carpenter, was it?
• 44:55
  I don't know.
• 44:56
  Who did a child's play?
• 44:57
  Let's see,
• 44:57
  Jon: Lee Wallace.
• 44:59
  Ryan: Yes,
• 44:59
  Kearns: we're gonna find out.
• 45:01
  Ryan: Tommy Lee Wallace, uh, directed it
• 45:03
  Kearns: Got it.
• 45:04
  Directed by Tom Holland.
• 45:06
  Jon: Oh, Tom
• 45:08
  Ryan: Holland.
• 45:08
  I'm sorry.
• 45:09
  Kearns: Tom Holland.
• 45:10
  Uh, did child play.
• 45:12
  The original 88.
• 45:13
  Ryan: did child play.
• 45:14
  Yeah.
• 45:15
  Let's say Tommy Lee Wallace did, uh, Halloween three and such
• 45:18
  a underrated horror director.
• 45:20
  Um, then to go to number one, it was produced and written by a
• 45:26
  legend and West Craven nightmare on Elm Street, three Dream Warriors.
• 45:30
  It's, it's my favorite.
• 45:33
  Third film.
• 45:34
  Um, just so many good lines.
• 45:37
  Uh, so many great deaths.
• 45:39
  That's the one where, you know, welcome to Primetime Bitch.
• 45:42
  He's got the kid with the Mario Knot and he's got him over and he cuts
• 45:46
  the wires and he falls to his death.
• 45:48
  Um, mean, it's fucked up, but he gets the girl high and he's like, that's a rush.
• 45:54
  The debts in there are just awesome and it's just, it's
• 45:57
  such a good nightmare film.
• 45:58
  And it goes full circle 'cause it was supposed to be the last one.
• 46:02
  At that time until he comes back.
• 46:05
  But there's so many good ones.
• 46:08
  But that's my type top five for the three qls honorary mention to Army of Darkness.
• 46:13
  I didn't make the list because I was kind of going with a different vibe
• 46:17
  on it, and I considered that more fantasy comedy than the horror and the
• 46:22
  second and first one, in my opinion.
• 46:25
  Yeah.
• 46:27
  Jon: Know, army of darkness doesn't
• 46:33
  Kearns: Yeah, it does.
• 46:35
  Ryan: yeah,
• 46:36
  Kearns: I agree.
• 46:37
  I agree with you because Evil Dead one and two are really kind of one movie.
• 46:41
  Um, I'll say it.
• 46:42
  Ryan: yeah.
• 46:48
  Kearns: Ah, update, Let's see.
• 46:52
  Um, Zoe Zel.
• 46:53
  Donna won for Best actress, by the way,
• 46:57
  Ryan: I am with
• 46:57
  Kearns: Amelia Perez.
• 46:59
  Um, production design was wicked and I knew it.
• 47:02
  I knew it.
• 47:03
  I knew it.
• 47:03
  And, um, costume design went to the substance.
• 47:07
  Ryan: You know what, I'm fine with that 'cause it's a film.
• 47:09
  Kearns: I mean, that's true.
• 47:10
  I guess that's true.
• 47:13
  Our flagship episodes, we still Nope, that's it.
• 47:17
  That's the only chances we had.
• 47:18
  Nevermind.
• 47:19
  There's no hope.
• 47:21
  Oh, no.
• 47:21
  Cinematography still.
• 47:22
  I'm sorry.
• 47:22
  Cinematography still out there.
• 47:25
  All right.
• 47:25
  Ryan: I wanna hear what you
• 47:26
  Kearns: Let's,
• 47:27
  Ryan: with this week.
• 47:29
  Kearns: yeah, John.
• 47:30
  Jon: I came up with five more badass kids in horror movies,
• 47:35
  Ryan: Okay.
• 47:36
  Fair.
• 47:37
  Jon: so my number five.
• 47:39
  It is probably the youngest movie I'll, I'll ever talk about on here.
• 47:44
  Monster Squad
• 47:46
  Kearns: Okay.
• 47:48
  Jon: 1987
• 47:49
  Kearns: Yeah, I love that movie.
• 47:51
  Jon: group of kids have to defend their hometown from an invasion
• 47:55
  of the classic universal monsters, and the wolf man has an arts.
• 48:00
  Ryan: Yes, he
• 48:01
  Kearns: He has nars.
• 48:02
  Ryan: Just kick
• 48:02
  Kearns: Yeah, that movie's.
• 48:03
  That movie's just a great movie.
• 48:07
  Jon: The perfect intro to horror.
• 48:10
  Kearns: Yeah.
• 48:10
  Jon: so my number four is a German movie called Cub.
• 48:15
  So Kid Sam heads out in the woods with fully expecting to find a monster, and
• 48:22
  Kearns: he,
• 48:23
  Jon: does he.
• 48:24
  Ryan: What's it, Alec Baldwin?
• 48:26
  Kearns: uh, actually, no.
• 48:27
  It was Billy Baldwin.
• 48:28
  Weird,
• 48:31
  Jon: Steven
• 48:31
  Kearns: weird coincidence.
• 48:36
  Jon: the Cubby Cub is a pretty messed up movie.
• 48:41
  It's pretty good, pretty good.
• 48:43
  Kearns: Nice.
• 48:44
  Jon: my number three, I'll go to West Craven.
• 48:46
  Also the people under the stairs.
• 48:49
  Kearns: Ah, that movie messed me up.
• 48:51
  Ryan: That's a
• 48:52
  Kearns: movie messed me up.
• 48:53
  I lived like in that house when I watched that movie, creaky Ass Stairs.
• 48:57
  Weird.
• 48:58
  Like there was very plausible.
• 48:59
  There were people living in my walls
• 49:01
  Jon: Yep.
• 49:01
  Kearns: in my mind.
• 49:02
  Yeah.
• 49:03
  Jon: yep.
• 49:03
  So
• 49:03
  Kearns: Yeah.
• 49:04
  Jon: into his family's landlord's house and uncovers their
• 49:09
  horrible secrets in the walls.
• 49:14
  My number two is probably the most hit or miss movie for people that I,
• 49:20
  I've probably recommended in years.
• 49:23
  It's about, it runs about 50 50, so my number two psycho goreman.
• 49:30
  Kearns: Psycho Gore, man.
• 49:31
  Jon: Yep.
• 49:33
  Kearns: Not Gore mom.
• 49:34
  Jon: nope.
• 49:35
  Gorman man.
• 49:36
  Ryan: I need to hear a synopsis for this.
• 49:38
  I'm, I'm intrigued
• 49:39
  Kearns: Yeah.
• 49:40
  Ryan: one.
• 49:42
  Jon: Siblings discover a gem that controls the archduke of nightmare,
• 49:46
  a violent intergalactic being.
• 49:49
  Kearns: Nice,
• 49:50
  Jon: of course, one, once you're a kid and you have control of
• 49:53
  something like that, you know it's doing what you want it to do.
• 49:56
  Kearns: sweet.
• 49:57
  Jon: And it seems like, so it goman who love it, like or can tolerate the.
• 50:08
  The young girl, people who don't like it find her to be super annoying.
• 50:13
  I think she's awesome.
• 50:14
  Like she's just such a
• 50:16
  Kearns: Okay,
• 50:17
  Jon: pain in the ass little kid.
• 50:19
  It's awesome.
• 50:21
  Kearns: cool.
• 50:23
  Jon: And my,
• 50:23
  Ryan: year,
• 50:24
  Kearns: Psycho Goreman.
• 50:25
  You don't even have to write it down.
• 50:27
  Ryan: No,
• 50:27
  Kearns: forget that one.
• 50:28
  Jon: and my number one maybe on our list.
• 50:34
  It's a French movie called Deadly Games.
• 50:37
  Kearns: Okay.
• 50:39
  Jon: Deadly Games is home alone meets diehard.
• 50:43
  Kearns: Yes.
• 50:45
  Ryan: It is a Christmas
• 50:46
  Jon: So, uh, a boy is, has to defend his home and his grandfather from
• 50:52
  a deranged former department store Santa seeking revenge for his firing.
• 50:57
  Kearns: It's, it's home alone.
• 50:59
  Meets Die hard, meets Bad Santa.
• 51:01
  Actually,
• 51:02
  Jon: that too.
• 51:02
  Yeah.
• 51:03
  Yeah.
• 51:05
  Kearns: let's go.
• 51:06
  Jon: and it predates
• 51:10
  Kearns: All
• 51:10
  Jon: bad Santa.
• 51:11
  It's 89.
• 51:12
  It
• 51:13
  Kearns: predate.
• 51:13
  Jon: Die hard, but not die hard.
• 51:15
  So die hard
• 51:16
  Kearns: Yeah.
• 51:17
  Jon: at the
• 51:17
  Kearns: Wait,
• 51:18
  Jon: just a, a die hard rip off for the kid.
• 51:21
  Ryan: That's
• 51:21
  Kearns: I know.
• 51:21
  I thought home alone.
• 51:22
  One was the nineties.
• 51:23
  Yeah, 1990 was home alone.
• 51:26
  Ryan: One year prior.
• 51:27
  Kearns: Diehard was 88.
• 51:28
  You are correct, sir. John mc Tiernan.
• 51:31
  All right.
• 51:32
  Well,
• 51:32
  Jon: a book
• 51:34
  Kearns: God, books are stupid.
• 51:38
  Ryan: don't say.
• 51:40
  Jon: one
• 51:40
  Kearns: I will never say that
• 51:41
  Jon: one other
• 51:42
  Kearns: real.
• 51:44
  Jon: the original John in a movie played by Frank Sinatra.
• 51:50
  Kearns: No way.
• 51:52
  Jon: He wasn't called.
• 51:53
  He wasn't John but it's the same character.
• 51:57
  Ryan: was called
• 51:57
  Kearns: That's pretty sweet.
• 52:00
  Ryan: Mm-hmm.
• 52:01
  Kearns: Cool.
• 52:01
  All right, we'll have to watch that.
• 52:03
  Ryan: It's, it's
• 52:04
  Kearns: Then we can watch, um, east the Hawk one.
• 52:06
  There's another one where he plays some singing, some singing guy.
• 52:09
  It's a Bruce, a very little known Bruce Willis movie.
• 52:12
  Um, Hudson Hawk.
• 52:14
  Yeah, that's another one I really enjoy,
• 52:17
  Ryan: I got a
• 52:17
  Kearns: but I.
• 52:18
  Ryan: uh, real quick for viewers and you guys if you
• 52:20
  haven't seen it on Amazon Prime.
• 52:22
  Um, if you guys are fans of Alex Cross the show, Alex Cross on Amazon Prime.
• 52:28
  It's the first season.
• 52:29
  Got green lit for a second.
• 52:30
  It is excellent, um, especially if you love Kiss the Girls Long Game,
• 52:34
  the Spider, it's that same character.
• 52:37
  Um, just ignore the Tyler Perry version.
• 52:40
  Doesn't do it justice.
• 52:44
  Kearns: Okay.
• 52:46
  Ryan: Yes.
• 52:47
  A hundred
• 52:47
  Jon: Loveman.
• 52:50
  Ryan: No.
• 52:50
  No, but he does a,
• 52:53
  Kearns: all good.
• 52:53
  Ryan: job in the films for what we had at the time.
• 52:57
  I'd say,
• 52:58
  Jon: Yeah.
• 53:01
  Ryan: no, this, this guy is awesome.
• 53:03
  He kicks ass, out his
• 53:06
  Kearns: Cool man.
• 53:06
  Ryan: ass.
• 53:07
  Kearns: You snuck in a couple wrecks there at the end of the top five.
• 53:10
  Nicely done, sir. But um, all right guys, we're gonna wrap up tonight 'cause
• 53:14
  it's Sunday night where no one usually record on Sunday nights, and I'm a
• 53:17
  tired old man and I need to go to bed.
• 53:20
  For real.
• 53:21
  You can see us swallowing, yawns the whole episode.
• 53:23
  So can't hide behind the animation on this one, fellas.
• 53:28
  But all right, everybody.
• 53:29
  That was Phantasm three.
• 53:31
  Um, we're gonna tune in next week for Phantasm four
• 53:36
  Ryan: Oblivion.
• 53:38
  Kearns: Oblivion later.
• 53:41
  Ryan: See ya.