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Killers Amongst Us: Petite genius disappears before Sunday wedding. What happened to Annie Le? (episode 4) · Crime Stories with Nancy Grace

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  Speaker 1: Hi, guys, Nancy Grace here welcome back to Killers amongst Us,
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  Speaker 1: a production of iHeartMedia and Crime Online. So often in
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  Speaker 1: life we rush through our day and our nights with
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  Speaker 1: blinders on, not looking around us to realize there are
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  Speaker 1: killers amongst us. I'm Nancy Grace, Thanks for being with us.
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  Speaker 1: Annie Leigh's body just found hasn't even been identified yet,
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  Speaker 1: but we all know it's her. A beautiful twenty four
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  Speaker 1: year old young lady, just literally hours away from her
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  Speaker 1: wedding day, A fabulous wedding and reception planned out on
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  Speaker 1: Long Island that was not to be with me. Former
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  Speaker 1: felony prosecutor now defense attorney GARYL. Coe and name partner
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  Speaker 1: with Cohen Cooper E. Stepan Allen at CCEA Law dot com.
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  Speaker 1: Renowned psychiatrist joining me out of Atlanta. Doctor Angela Arnold
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  Speaker 1: at angela Arnold MD dot com. Former police lieutenant Nehaven
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  Speaker 1: Police Department, Director of the Center for Advanced Policing at
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  Speaker 1: the University of Nehaven's Forensic Science Department. Lisa Daddio, Professor Forensics,
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  Speaker 1: Jagswall State University. Author Blood Beneath My Feet on Amazon.
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  Speaker 1: You can find him on Poisonous liaisons on the True
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  Speaker 1: Crime Network death investigator Joseph Scott Morgan, but first to
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  Speaker 1: investigative reporter Newsday. You can find Matthew Chase at Twitter
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  Speaker 1: at Chase Matthew Matthew take a list to our friend
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  Speaker 1: Randall Pingston. CBS police would not confirmed reports that another
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  Speaker 1: student was being questioned and had failed a lie. Detective
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  Speaker 1: test Ley was last seen three hours before an unexpected
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  Speaker 1: fire alarm in the lab building. Police say the body
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  Speaker 1: was hidden behind a section of wall, but discovery STU
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  Speaker 1: students who had held out hope until the end. It's
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  Speaker 1: a very sad thing at the university. So sorry. I mean, I,
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  Speaker 1: you know, truly tried to remain as hopeful as possible throughout.
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  Speaker 1: I certainly didn't think it would end in the way
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  Speaker 1: that it did. I think it's just incredibly grus and Okay,
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  Speaker 1: let me understand this. Annie last seen just three hours
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  Speaker 1: before a surprise fire alarm within the lab building. Now
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  Speaker 1: her body has been found secreted away behind the wall,
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  Speaker 1: and the irony, the irony of the timing. Take a
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  Speaker 1: listen to CBS. The discovery came on the same day
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  Speaker 1: Lee had been scheduled to be married on long Island,
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  Speaker 1: New York, to her college sweetheart, Jonathan Widowski, her florist
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  Speaker 1: last saw her September third, holding as Okay that she
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  Speaker 1: would have held today for her wedding. It consists of
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  Speaker 1: four dozen of Carnival roses, which we chose for her
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  Speaker 1: because roses were her favorite. Such a tragic ending, the
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  Speaker 1: focus now obviously finding the person responsible. Police would not
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  Speaker 1: say whether they have any prime suspects. Meanwhile, we are
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  Speaker 1: told that the only people who have access to the
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  Speaker 1: area of the building when the body was found are
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  Speaker 1: those with Yale University identification. That certainly narrows a pool
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  Speaker 1: of suspect. But as we all know, practically anybody can
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  Speaker 1: figure out how to skate in behind someone with a
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  Speaker 1: key card. Guys, were there any red flags? Had Annie
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  Speaker 1: lay mentioned anything about being more in for her safety
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  Speaker 1: or potentially unwillingly named the suspect before her death? Take
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  Speaker 1: a listen to Maggie Rodriguez CBS. Can you think of
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  Speaker 1: anything in hidesight that Annie may have said that's now
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  Speaker 1: a red flag? She worried about her safety, worried about anything,
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  Speaker 1: concerned about anyone who might hurt her? No, um any.
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  Speaker 1: Annie was friendly and she was amicable with everyone. She
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  Speaker 1: was cordial with everybody. And you know, she was a
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  Speaker 1: people person. She loved people, she loved life, and there's
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  Speaker 1: we just can't imagine anybody wanting to harm Annie or
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  Speaker 1: and with regards to her safety, if if she were
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  Speaker 1: concerned at all, she would have said something to someone
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  Speaker 1: and they would have known. And you know, John would
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  Speaker 1: have known, family would have known, friends would have known.
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  Speaker 1: Um Any you know, she she protected herself and you
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  Speaker 1: know she Annie walking around This is it's not um.
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  Speaker 1: Annie always made sure she was safe. You know, she
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  Speaker 1: doesn't walk around at night by herself. And if she
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  Speaker 1: had the work lead, she would make sure that somebody
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  Speaker 1: could come pick her up or walk with her. You know,
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  Speaker 1: before I go to Matthew Chase, investigative reporter with Newsday,
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  Speaker 1: you know what Daryl Cohen is so cliche. You see
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  Speaker 1: it on reruns of Magnum Pi for Pete's sake? Did
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  Speaker 1: Annie have any enemies that would want her dead? That's
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  Speaker 1: how they always started. It's just so cliche. It sounds
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  Speaker 1: more like a script for a TV special than it
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  Speaker 1: does in a real investigation. Nancy, you have to wonder
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  Speaker 1: all of us have enemies. We just don't know who
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  Speaker 1: they are and how much of an enemy they may be.
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  Speaker 1: And some of us make enemies because of who we are.
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  Speaker 1: Some of us make enemies because of what we do.
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  Speaker 1: Sometimes we just have an enemy because he or she
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  Speaker 1: looks at us and thinks they need to be our enemy.
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  Speaker 1: So it may be a cliche, but it's real. And
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  Speaker 1: as you point out, there are killers amongst us, and
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  Speaker 1: we never quite know who they are until we find out.
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  Speaker 1: Sometimes we never do. I've got a pretty good idea
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  Speaker 1: for you and myself, Daryl, all people we put away
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  Speaker 1: when we were prosecutors, and there now they're starting to
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  Speaker 1: get out for Pete's sake. To Matthew Chase, investiget a
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  Speaker 1: reporter Newsday, Matthew, what is it? Mains She's found in
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  Speaker 1: a wall, So there's something called a chase. It's a
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  Speaker 1: it's a mechanical chase. It's a vertical space that contains
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  Speaker 1: ducts and pipes and wires. And in this basement where
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  Speaker 1: she had her lab nearby, she's discovered behind a panel
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  Speaker 1: in a wall, and she's discovered by a I believe
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  Speaker 1: it was an FBI canine team that made the discovery.
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  Speaker 1: So it's not a wall per se, there's a panel
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  Speaker 1: that was apparently removed and she was put inside and
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  Speaker 1: the panel return I believe that's that's the case. Yeah,
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  Speaker 1: let me follow up with Lisa Daddy I for her
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  Speaker 1: police Lieutenant Haven PD, who were this case. I think
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  Speaker 1: I get what Matthew is telling us. Matthew Chase on
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  Speaker 1: news Day, did you describe it as well? Yeah, So
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  Speaker 1: it was actually the Connecticut State Police canine unit that
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  Speaker 1: had found it. So the Connecticut State Police had been
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  Speaker 1: assisting us processing the scene. They actually had teams of
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  Speaker 1: investigators that that's all they were doing at ten AMASAD
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  Speaker 1: was handling the scene while New Haven PD was focusing
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  Speaker 1: more on the investigation and talking to people, and as
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  Speaker 1: I mentioned earlier, was really quite a partnership. But so
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  Speaker 1: what happened before, unfortunately we found Annie's body. The investigators
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  Speaker 1: started smelling decomposition, which is a very unique smell when
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  Speaker 1: the human body dies and starts to becomposed. There's a
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  Speaker 1: smell truly unlike any other that those of us who
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  Speaker 1: have worked in the field knows as soon as we
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  Speaker 1: get a whiff of it what it is. And it
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  Speaker 1: became all right, where is she? Because this is the
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  Speaker 1: first time that we had any type of inkling that
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  Speaker 1: she was still truly in the building and hadn't gone
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  Speaker 1: out with the medical waste or the trash. Unfortunately, it
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  Speaker 1: sounds so cold and inhumane, it really does, but that's
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  Speaker 1: what we were up against. So we then knew. But
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  Speaker 1: this is a research building that had a multimillion dollar
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  Speaker 1: ventilation system. So while they kept getting a whiff of decomposition,
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  Speaker 1: it's like, where is she in this in this building?
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  Speaker 1: Right a minute, I get it, Because they're performing all
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  Speaker 1: of these chemical tests in there, they've got to have
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  Speaker 1: a very state of the art ventilation system. I get it.
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  Speaker 1: Go ahead. So you know, with that, a determination was
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  Speaker 1: made to bring in a cadaver dog. Cadaver dogs are
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  Speaker 1: specially trained dogs, typically bloodhounds, who come in and they're
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  Speaker 1: utilized by law enforcement local, state, federal to alert to
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  Speaker 1: decomposition if you can't find it. And so what happens
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  Speaker 1: is the canine that was brought in, the cadaver dog
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  Speaker 1: that was brought in alerted to this room where there
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  Speaker 1: was this mechanical chase and it was like a metal
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  Speaker 1: panel if you would, that was in a locker room
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  Speaker 1: bathroom area that the dog had alerted to so investigators
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  Speaker 1: opened the panel in the area and as Matthew had stated,
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  Speaker 1: it's kind of where pipes and stuff are, and you
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  Speaker 1: go to it if there's an issue, versus taking down
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  Speaker 1: an entire wall. And immediately as soon as they removed
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  Speaker 1: one of the screws, I mean, the smell coming out
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  Speaker 1: of the wall was just horrific, Just a man eagining
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  Speaker 1: the family discovering that their girl, who had so many
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  Speaker 1: hopes in dreams, it was so proud of her, is
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  Speaker 1: not only dead but then hidden away in the wall.
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  Speaker 1: And it brings to mind Joseph Scott Morgan, all the
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  Speaker 1: people working in that area. Remember the lab was not
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  Speaker 1: closed off and our first reaction was contaminated crime scene. No,
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  Speaker 1: they were working just feet maybe inches away from Annie
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  Speaker 1: Lay's dead body sequestered behind the wall. Yeah, their colleague
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  Speaker 1: and that building still standing. Can you imagine you walk
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  Speaker 1: in there, and I'm sure that some of the people
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  Speaker 1: are still there, you know that worked with Annie, and
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  Speaker 1: that's something they'll have to bear for years and years.
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  Speaker 1: But I gotta tell you, I know that Lisa's probably
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  Speaker 1: too humble to say this about this investigation, but let
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  Speaker 1: me explain to you very briefly, this is a hellish
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  Speaker 1: nightmare for a crime scene investigator because this is not
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  Speaker 1: like some case that you would handle in some home
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  Speaker 1: somewhere where people are residing and you have a killing
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  Speaker 1: in a dwelling. This is a medical research or an
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  Speaker 1: animal research facility. So what are you faced with in here?
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  Speaker 1: There's going to be biological sample all over the place,
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  Speaker 1: and it's not necessarily going to be from the victim
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  Speaker 1: or a potential perpetrator. You're talking about biological sample that's
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  Speaker 1: coming from any animals they're working on. And when I
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  Speaker 1: say that, I'm talking about anything that is the essence
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  Speaker 1: of life, particularly blood, and so as an investigator, this
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  Speaker 1: is why this is such a nightmare's case. If you
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  Speaker 1: come across something that you suspect is blood at this
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  Speaker 1: scene and you're trying to process this, you have to
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  Speaker 1: do this gymnastics in your mind. Is this related to
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  Speaker 1: the case that I'm working or is this something that's
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  Speaker 1: just an everyday thing that goes on to the lab.
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  Speaker 1: Because contrary to what equal think, when you go into
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  Speaker 1: a lab, you smell the chemicals, you're smell cleaner and
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  Speaker 1: all that stuff, but you can never get the thing
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  Speaker 1: completely clean. And that's what makes this so very difficult
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  Speaker 1: for the investigators that were tasked with handling this case,
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  Speaker 1: and to doctor Angela Arnold Psychiatrists joining us out of Atlanta.
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  Speaker 1: It tells me so much. It tells me that it
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  Speaker 1: was an insider there within Yale. Because we've got seventy
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  Speaker 1: cameras working, they can see who's coming in and out,
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  Speaker 1: and they were right. Annie never left the building. Forget
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  Speaker 1: about all the theories she should have gotten out in
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  Speaker 1: the rush and not really been spotted in a group
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  Speaker 1: of people. She never left the building. But that also
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  Speaker 1: narrows the pool of suspects who was in that building?
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  Speaker 1: And doesn't it also say something about the suspect. What
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  Speaker 1: a disrespectful thing to treat her like an animal. Basically,
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  Speaker 1: whoever did this to her tree her like she was
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  Speaker 1: one of the labrets that she was working on. To
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  Speaker 1: stuff this brilliant little girl who God only knows what
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  Speaker 1: she had the capacity to discover that would have helped
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  Speaker 1: all of us, and to stuff her in a in
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  Speaker 1: a you know, in a wall, like she was a
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  Speaker 1: dead labret. Wow, that comparison you just may just stop
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  Speaker 1: me in my tracks. To Lisa, Daddio who actually worked
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  Speaker 1: in this case. Lisa, what was the cause of death? Yeah, so, uh,
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  Speaker 1: you know, and the reason why I'm this case and
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  Speaker 1: as we're going through it, it literally still to this day,
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  Speaker 1: UM brings chills to my body and at parts of
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  Speaker 1: it I still get in my eyes tear because of
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  Speaker 1: just the horror. And listened to doctor Angie and hearing
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  Speaker 1: the comparison, Um, just Scott, it makes it so more
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  Speaker 1: like it just happened yesterday. Unfortunately. So the cause of
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  Speaker 1: death is, you know, Annie was strangled to death. Um.
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  Speaker 1: She also had suffered a broken clavicle, a broken jaw, um,
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  Speaker 1: and had a lot of other injuries with her that
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  Speaker 1: had occurred to her as well. So Um, it was
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  Speaker 1: really true, truly just a brutal, brutal um crime. Now,
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  Speaker 1: as we we've said, you know she she was so tiny,
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  Speaker 1: you know, just small, small structured, so you know, obviously, UM,
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  Speaker 1: the types of injuries she sustained because of her stature,
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  Speaker 1: it probably wouldn't had been as difficult. But the reality
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  Speaker 1: of it is is that she was like beaten to
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  Speaker 1: a pulp and it was just horrific, horrific beaten to
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  Speaker 1: a pulp. Let me ask you this, Lisa Daddio, was
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  Speaker 1: there a sex attack? So, um, there was no obvious
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  Speaker 1: signs of the fact that she was sexually assaulted. When
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  Speaker 1: the autopsy was conducted, there was, like I said, nothing
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  Speaker 1: obvious found. However, there was a semen that was found
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  Speaker 1: on her underwear that she had been wearing and actually
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  Speaker 1: had her underwear had been down from her hip vaginal area. Well,
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  Speaker 1: in my mind, I mean, Daryl Cohen, that that sex
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  Speaker 1: attack right there. I don't need anybody else to tell
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  Speaker 1: me anything. When Lisa Daddio says there was no evidence
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  Speaker 1: of a sex attack, there is. There is. I understand
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  Speaker 1: what she's saying in the technical sense of the word.
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  Speaker 1: But when you're underwear or down and you've got semen
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  Speaker 1: on them at work and you're dead, I mean, they
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  Speaker 1: didn't teach me math in law school. But two and
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  Speaker 1: two Jill was four, doesn't it? Jackie Okay? Yet she said, yes,
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  Speaker 1: Daryl Cohen, she was sex attacked and beaten dead. That's
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  Speaker 1: what happened to this little lady. She may not have
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  Speaker 1: been raped, but she was sex attacked. And there were
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  Speaker 1: somebody so enraged that she didn't give them what they
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  Speaker 1: deserved in their opinion that they took care of her
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  Speaker 1: and because you're never going to tell me no, your
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  Speaker 1: word's going to be spelled, know not n O, And
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  Speaker 1: they just went crazy. And then I think they tried
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  Speaker 1: their best to hide her and because they likely worked
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  Speaker 1: there or certainly knew what was going on, they found
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  Speaker 1: a place where they could hide her where until the
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  Speaker 1: smell became overwhelming, until the Kanons came there, that she
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  Speaker 1: would not have been found, and she wasn't for several
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  Speaker 1: days at that point. Lisa Daddio, who weren't the case
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  Speaker 1: guys what the police now? So you know, we had
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  Speaker 1: discussed how we were going to get her out of
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  Speaker 1: this area because we need to. She's a crime scene.
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  Speaker 1: Everything on her, everything that was in that wall becomes
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  Speaker 1: part of the crime scene. And now we have truly
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  Speaker 1: like one of the most important types of evidence is
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  Speaker 1: the body. So we needed to come up with a
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  Speaker 1: plan on to how to remove her from the wall
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  Speaker 1: with as little possible contamination and damage as we could.
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  Speaker 1: There's she's surrounded by wall, so it's like, how do
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  Speaker 1: we get her out without contaminating or destroying any type
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  Speaker 1: of evidence that is there? And so what we did,
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  Speaker 1: what the Connecticut State Police did was they actually took
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  Speaker 1: the wall out, but from the other side, from where
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  Speaker 1: the mechanical that was, and did it in such a
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  Speaker 1: as much as they could, a careful way to not
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  Speaker 1: to further contaminate and damage any tree sevidence that was honored,
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  Speaker 1: you know, those hares, those fibers, any DNA that was there,
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  Speaker 1: and of course the DNA is able to withstand some
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  Speaker 1: type of more contamination than here's or fibers. Until we
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  Speaker 1: were able to get her out of the wall and
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  Speaker 1: brought to the Medical Examiner's office for a full autopsy
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  Speaker 1: and preserving as much of the evidence that was on
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  Speaker 1: her and within the wall as possible. Wow to you,
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  Speaker 1: Jesse Scott Morgan, death investigator, forensics expert, gotta admit that
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  Speaker 1: was brilliant. Didn't want to contaminate or ruin evidence, so
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  Speaker 1: they go in from the other side of the wall,
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  Speaker 1: from the other rim. Yeah, And you know, these are
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  Speaker 1: very fluid situations when you come to crom scenes like
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  Speaker 1: this that are highly complicated. You have people that are
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  Speaker 1: sequestered in these kinds of areas, and you know, it's
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  Speaker 1: like finding a body in a car, for instance, and
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  Speaker 1: you transport the entire car to a location to be
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  Speaker 1: processed police garage for instance, and that sort of thing.
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  Speaker 1: You want to leave the body in what we refer
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  Speaker 1: to as a pristine condition as much as you possibly can,
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  Speaker 1: but again it's very very difficult. As Lisa had mentioned,
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  Speaker 1: when you're essentially dismantling part of the structure of the building,
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  Speaker 1: you're going to get a lot of debris that's going
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  Speaker 1: to fall in the body. The body will be jostled,
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  Speaker 1: but you try to keep it as intact as you
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  Speaker 1: possibly can so you can harvest any kind of evidence
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  Speaker 1: that might have been left behind. Guys, we're looking at
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  Speaker 1: a pool of potential suspects. Now, we've got keycards, we've
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  Speaker 1: got video, we have, as Matthew Chase correctly pointed out,
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  Speaker 1: contrary to my belief, we have clothing, not Annie's clothing,
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  Speaker 1: but blood. Lisa, Daddy, I was that bloody clothing found
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  Speaker 1: near her body? No, it actually was not Nancy. It
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  Speaker 1: was found in the drop ceiling of the basement area,
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  Speaker 1: but not where Annie had been found. And who worked
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  Speaker 1: in the area where the bloody clothing and Annie's body
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  Speaker 1: was found, So there are several people that had actually
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  Speaker 1: worked there. Obviously, other researchers. Other researchers had access to it,
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  Speaker 1: but each graduate student researcher also had an animal technician
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  Speaker 1: assigned to them to assist them with an Annie's case
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  Speaker 1: her mice, and there were hundreds of them in her
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  Speaker 1: own lab room. Yeah, as the search is on for
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  Speaker 1: who ever killed this beautiful, brilliant bride to be, take
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  Speaker 1: a listen to Randall Painton at CBS News. She was
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  Speaker 1: as good a human being as you'd ever hope to meet.
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  Speaker 1: Holding candles. Over two thousand members of the Yale University
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  Speaker 1: family mourned the loss of any Lay. This is a
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  Speaker 1: horrific tragedy. This shouldn't happen in the world to anybody.
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  Speaker 1: While the search for evidence continued, authorities are making progress
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  Speaker 1: on a suspect targeting one person. A lab technician who
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  Speaker 1: worked in the building with Lay sniffer dogs led police
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  Speaker 1: to Lay's body Sunday afternoon. The remains were hidden behind
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  Speaker 1: a basement wall in an area called a chase, which
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  Speaker 1: is used to run wires and pipes between floors. Authorities
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  Speaker 1: had reason to focus on insiders because of the building's
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  Speaker 1: robust security system. To go to the basement area, you
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  Speaker 1: have to swipe a car. Once you're an abasement area,
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  Speaker 1: you have to swipe again to get inside the room.
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  Speaker 1: The four story, one hundred twenty thousand square foot research
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  Speaker 1: facility is equipped with seventy five cameras and requires of
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  Speaker 1: magnetic IDs not only to enter, but to access corridors
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  Speaker 1: and work rooms. Who was in that room? Take a
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  Speaker 1: listen to Drew Levinson w p R I five. Police
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  Speaker 1: at Yale University are focusing on a lab technician as
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  Speaker 1: they investigate the murder of grad student Annie Ley. CBS
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  Speaker 1: News has learned that unidentified person has failed at least
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  Speaker 1: one lie detector test. Authorities say the killing was not
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  Speaker 1: a random act, and that brings some relief to students
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  Speaker 1: that they think they know who it is brings some
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  Speaker 1: sense of security, but the fact that he's within the
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  Speaker 1: community is also scary, and it is nice to know
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  Speaker 1: that they have someone who they think is the persons.
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  Speaker 1: You know, you feel better walking down the streets knowing
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  Speaker 1: that they're not just about And here is Drew Levinson
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  Speaker 1: w pr I five. Now, a person of interest in
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  Speaker 1: the murder of a Yale grad student has just been
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  Speaker 1: taken into custody. Investigators raided Raymond Clark's apartment around ten
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  Speaker 1: thirty tonight. They say has not been arrested, but that
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  Speaker 1: a judge has issued a warrant to obtain a DNA sample.
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  Speaker 1: They also say he will be held until the DNA
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  Speaker 1: is obtained, not arrested. Well, they took him into custody
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  Speaker 1: and they're swabbing his mouth for DNA. Daryl Cohen, now
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  Speaker 1: we know why defense attorneys tell their clients don't take
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  Speaker 1: a polygraph. When you see somebody humming and hauling about.
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  Speaker 1: They haven't taken the polygraph yet. They want a private polygraph.
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  Speaker 1: They're trying to arrange it. That's why, Darryl, you never
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  Speaker 1: ever representing a defenders take a polygraph with the knowledge
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  Speaker 1: of the prosecution. You may have your client take one
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  Speaker 1: to see whether or not he or she passes, whether
• 23:36
  Speaker 1: or not as inconclusive, and if they pass, you wave
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  Speaker 1: in like a flag. If they don't pass, your bevery
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  Speaker 1: is very hazy. You don't remember it. Here's Erin Katski ABC.
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  Speaker 1: We know they've been waiting for forensic test results. They
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  Speaker 1: wanted to compare samples of Raymond Clark's DNA from his hair, mouth,
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  Speaker 1: and skin to physical evidence found at the scene, including
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  Speaker 1: bloody surgical gloves and bloody clothing. Those were two key
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  Speaker 1: pieces of physical evidence they had. We also know they
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  Speaker 1: had been reading text messages and emails that Clark sent
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  Speaker 1: to any Lay, perhaps about the cleanliness of her workstation.
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  Speaker 1: At the lab, Clark worked the mice cages. He was
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  Speaker 1: responsible for their cleanliness and upkeep, and were told that
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  Speaker 1: he complained to Lay about her work and the tidiness
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  Speaker 1: of her work, and suggested that they meet to talk
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  Speaker 1: about it. Really, he wants to talk about the tidiness
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  Speaker 1: of a cage of rats. How does that explain the
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  Speaker 1: samon on her underwear? Take a listener. Randall Pays and
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  Speaker 1: CBS law enforcement sources also tell CBS News that when
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  Speaker 1: the technician was first questioned, investigators noticed the marks and
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  Speaker 1: scratches on his body, most notably on his hands and arms,
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  Speaker 1: suggestive of defensive wounds. Authorities keyed in on him when
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  Speaker 1: he took up polygraph tests and failed badly, raising a
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  Speaker 1: number of red flags. Law enforcement sources say he now
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  Speaker 1: has a lawyer. So far, there's no comment on the motive,
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  Speaker 1: but the CBS source says, quote, there's no romance involved
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  Speaker 1: in this. I guess you can say that again. Who
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  Speaker 1: is this guy? Matthew Chase, investigative reporter in news Day.
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  Speaker 1: Who is Clark? What do we know about him? Well,
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  Speaker 1: Raymond Clark. He's around any Lay's age. He has a
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  Speaker 1: girlfriend or fiance as well. He's he works at Actually
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  Speaker 1: the fiance also works there. And uh, he is from Connecticut.
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  Speaker 1: H he has worked there for quite a bit. And uh,
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  Speaker 1: there are rumors that he's a some folks have said
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  Speaker 1: that he's a control freak, and you know, he's a
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  Speaker 1: He's a guy who's from Connecticut. He played sports, and
• 25:59
  Speaker 1: you know, we were just covering more and more about
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  Speaker 1: him every days as his name came out. Well, isn't
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  Speaker 1: it true? To Lisa Daddy, o former behaving PD lieutenant
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  Speaker 1: who worked the case, there were allegations of abuse, So yes,
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  Speaker 1: to be short about it. You know, we as Ray
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  Speaker 1: started to become more of a really a strong suspect
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  Speaker 1: because of a lot of different things we were finding
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  Speaker 1: both investigatively and frantically. We had done a criminal history check.
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  Speaker 1: We reached out to police departments where he had lived
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  Speaker 1: to see if there was anything. We actually started learning
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  Speaker 1: more about Ray after he was arrested and so you know,
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  Speaker 1: it's one of those things that even though an arrest
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  Speaker 1: is made, the investigation still continues because we're trying to
• 26:53
  Speaker 1: get as much information as we can. And so, once
• 26:57
  Speaker 1: you know he was identified as being a spect in
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  Speaker 1: the case, people started coming forward. Former girlfriend started coming
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  Speaker 1: forward to say, hey, you know he was a control freak,
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  Speaker 1: and you know, this was several years ago when I
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  Speaker 1: dated him. However, his fiancee, as Matthew had stated, who
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  Speaker 1: also worked at ten Amistad, as well as his brother
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  Speaker 1: in law who also worked at ten Amaistade, everybody said
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  Speaker 1: Ray was his great guy. He would never hurt a soul,
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  Speaker 1: he loved animals, and so they were definitely portraying a
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  Speaker 1: completely different picture than what raised previously. Well speaking previous girlfriends,
• 27:33
  Speaker 1: take a listen to former girlfriend Jessica del Rocco at GMA.
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  Speaker 1: I just wanted out. I wanted I realized that I
• 27:40
  Speaker 1: didn't want to be in this type of relationship anymore,
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  Speaker 1: that I wanted it to be over. And when you
• 27:45
  Speaker 1: told him why, he didn't want it to be over.
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  Speaker 1: And an incident occurred, and I took the steps that
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  Speaker 1: I thought would be the best way to handle it
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  Speaker 1: and I went through the school and I went through
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  Speaker 1: the police. And wait a minute minute. You say he
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  Speaker 1: didn't want Yeah, he didn't want to What did he do?
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  Speaker 1: I can't comment on that, but it was frightening enough
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  Speaker 1: that you thought it absolutely might need police help, absolutely
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  Speaker 1: keep him away. Yeah. Was it explosive anger yelling or
• 28:15
  Speaker 1: was it something more more submerged? No, it was anger yelling, grabbing.
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  Speaker 1: What happened afterwards? Then, if two broke up, I'm for
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  Speaker 1: about two weeks. I was escorted from the school to
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  Speaker 1: my car. She had to have an escort to her
• 28:35
  Speaker 1: car for two weeks after the breakup. Well, in case
• 28:40
  Speaker 1: you're wondering, this is what happened to Raymond Clark the third.
• 28:47
  Speaker 1: Take a listen to Jamie muro WTNH. Clark, now twenty
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  Speaker 1: six years old, was immediately after a statement to forty
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  Speaker 1: four years in prison. He won't get out until twenty
• 28:57
  Speaker 1: fifty three. I think that the family will never be
• 29:01
  Speaker 1: able to recover their sense of moss for anyone, but
• 29:09
  Speaker 1: all the best that we can hope for is that
• 29:12
  Speaker 1: there's many safety changes at Yale, and that's what we
• 29:17
  Speaker 1: will hope to ensure. Annie Lay never made her wedding,
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  Speaker 1: her family devastated, her fiancee still heartbroken because of Raymond Clark,
• 29:31
  Speaker 1: the third No one knew a killer was amongst them.
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  Speaker 1: Nancy Grace killers amongst us, signing off goodbye friend,