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Roki Sasaki to the MLB · The 3-0 Take

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  Ladies and gentlemen, welcome to the Three O Take, where we talk
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  all things Major League Baseball.
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  Here's Kyle Corwin and Nate Reyes.
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  It. All starts right now.
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  Welcome back to the three O take presented by Sea Cake.
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  This is episode 487. I'll be your host Kyle Korne.
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  I'm here with my Co host Nate Reyes.
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  Nate. Well, we did it.
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  We we made it to the lull. It's like about a week.
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  I was wondering how long it would take and.
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  We're here. I mean, we get to talk Rokie
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  Sasaki. I mean, that's, that's not AI
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  mean that's, that's a little bit of a headliner.
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  No, come on now. Hadn't heard of him since last
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  week, so yeah. Well, that's a that's a you
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  problem then, because he's, I mean, some folks, myself
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  included, have have been a little more familiar.
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  With him than just staying him. For a while he was in the World
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  Baseball Classic, the very one that you and I were.
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  I mean, not not location wise, but we attended the 2023 World
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  Baseball Classic, which he wasn't.
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  You remembered him. No, because we didn't go to
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  watch him. I'm just letting you know he was
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  there. He was on the team that won the
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  whole thing. Name another guy.
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  Shohei Otani. Nope, no Otani, no Yamamoto.
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  Name another guy. Masataka, Yoshita.
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  Another one I don't know. The entire like, that's 40 man
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  roster for the Japan organization.
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  Come on. Now, and it's not currently in
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  the league, yeah. It was last year.
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  First name by the way. Roki, I saw that.
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  Thing, that thing above the O, yeah, I don't know.
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  Let's get that line. What is that?
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  Couldn't tell you, I barely know the English language.
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  You expect me to know what these accents are?
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  So like the Japanese version of a of a tilde?
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  What? What would the effect be on the
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  letter? What other possible
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  pronunciations could we be talking here?
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  What if it was? Rookie.
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  What if it was a long O? That'd be cool.
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  Rukie Sasaka. Sasaki, Rukie Sasaka.
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  Not Sasaki. Not so confused with Roku TV.
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  No, I think it's Rokie. I think we're in the clear
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  there. You want to talk about them or
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  you have anything you'd like to open up with?
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  No, it's Taco night tonight, so that's good.
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  Pretty full. That's that's a great opener.
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  Let's talk. Let's talk Roki or, or Rookie,
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  whatever your choice of pronunciation is.
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  Well, that's a shame that you've you've only known about Roki for
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  a week. Oh yeah.
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  Because he's he's got some, he's got some excitement that he's
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  bringing with him to Major League Baseball.
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  He's only 23. You just want me to give you
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  sort of the profile here? Hit me with it.
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  All right, Roki Sasaki. It's going to take everything in
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  me to stick with Sasaki and not Sasaka.
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  Masataka Yoshida. There's a lot of A's.
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  There is. Just have have a little bit of
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  patience with me if I slip up and say.
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  Like the first name, definitely like the first and last name.
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  There's some, there's some synonyms there.
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  There's some syllables that match.
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  You sure you're not looking for vowels?
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  Oh, you're. I see what you're saying.
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  Yeah, yeah, yeah. Yeah, between Joe say oh Tani,
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  you Darvish doesn't, so that's nice you he makes it easy.
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  You makes it very easy, but he's 23 years old routinely can can
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  hang in in triple digits will be eligible to be acquired by all
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  30 teams and it's likely to sign.
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  Well, he's he's going to be required to sign a minor league
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  deal, but his initial deal is going to be in the very low
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  possible, most likely single digit millions here as opposed
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  to if he would have waited until he's about 25, where he then
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  could have been open up to a Yamamoto esque deal.
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  He just wanted to get over here a lot sooner.
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  He request he actually requested to be posted before last year,
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  to which the team said Nope, we're we're good with you right
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  here for at least another year. The Marines, yes.
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  The I can never pronounce this team name.
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  Let's try it out. The the lot, the Chiba Chiba
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  lot, Chiba lotti, Chiba lotti. Chiba Latte.
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  Chiba latte the chiba latte marines, the Chai latte Marines
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  I'm. Going to go.
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  There it is. That's it.
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  That's the one they they posted them and well, no, I pumped the
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  brakes. The posting has not been made
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  official yet. They're either, they're either
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  going to post in prior to the, I want to say December 15th window
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  or after. And then that'll determine which
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  which like international class will be a part of.
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  Yeah, yeah, yeah. So it's like every team has
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  international like pool money that they can use for signing,
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  correct. And if he goes before December
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  15th, teams will have to use their 2024 pool.
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  He signs after that. Technically they can, which most
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  of it's a 2025 pool. Most of that has been used up by
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  right across teams because. Which it'd be, it'd be smart if
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  you waited. It'd be smart if you waited
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  because I think it also goes from like instead of like 3 or 5
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  million, it can bump up to like 7, seven and a half million,
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  something like that. So he's able to get a little bit
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  more money. I would say he probably has more
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  teams that would be interested because you know, they haven't
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  touched that budget of next year yet.
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  I think it makes sense to wait, but I like it.
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  This was similar to Shohei did did something similar too.
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  He went to the What'd he go for? Like it?
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  Was like 2 million. It was like 2.52 point 4 or
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  something like that. Yeah, it was really cheap so.
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  What a steal, I know. Yeah, similar path, like I said,
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  contrary to what Yamamoto did, given that Yamamoto was already
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  of age to to become eligible for a deal like that.
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  But like you said, Otani came over in a similar fashion, came
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  over before that that point and received a much, much lower
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  contract as a result. But I don't think he's worried
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  about that now. But you mentioned teams.
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  I know it's still early. He hasn't even officially been
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  posted at at at this moment in time.
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  But that's what everybody's talking about right now.
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  Team wise. Sounds like the Dodgers are a
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  leader in the clubhouse. But then again, who aren't the
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  Dodgers the leader in the clubhouse for at this point?
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  It's unbelievable if they have you seen that, that those Tik
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  Toks where it's got like Jesse Pinkman from Breaking Bad, he's
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  like, he can't keep getting away with this.
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  That's literally Dodgers. I I saw, I saw, I saw a comment
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  today that said if, if the Dodgers get Sasaki and Soto,
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  they said not watching baseball ever again.
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  Yeah, I mean. And to be quite honest with you,
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  if it gets to that point, I mean, if they get one or the
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  other, that's got to be like the final straw or like the like the
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  last point before you stop watching baseball.
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  But if they get both, it's like, what?
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  Why even? Why even turn the TV on?
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  Why even why even watch the games at that point?
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  Because it gets to a point where just because you have the best
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  players, because you have the most money, doesn't necessarily
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  mean you're always going to win. But that there has to be a line
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  drawn where it's like, if you have the best players and the
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  most money and then you go out and add two more of the best
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  players, then it's like. After winning the World Series,
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  right? What are we really doing here?
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  Yeah, all. I don't know that would be
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  Dodgers fans. I don't know though, I I'm not
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  going to be so quick to to say that he's going to be a Dodger.
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  I think that's the beauty of him coming over so early in, in his
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  deal because normally like you were saying, it's it's either 25
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  years old or six years, yeah, of service over there to where it
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  changes things. So he's him coming out early, I
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  think really like in an almost selfless way opens up a lot of
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  doors for a lot of teams. And you could, I mean, you could
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  throw a dart at the map and probably hit a few teams that
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  weren't in the Yamamoto conversation, but potentially
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  are in this in this conversation because of that budget is a
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  little bigger than Yamamoto. I saw he's like 62190.
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  Yeah. I mean he I don't remember
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  Yamamoto size but I know he's not 62.
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  Yeah, he's got a solid build and I was watching I was watching
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  clips of his stuff and like the the life is there for sure.
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  I mean the he was hitting he was hitting one O 2.
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  I mean, I'm sure he's he's like I said, he he sits in triple
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  digits when he wants to. You can dial it up certainly,
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  but like he was hitting one O 2 in the world Baseball Classic,
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  some of the the at bats against him that I was watching.
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  So I mean, I don't know if if you were a Major League team, I
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  don't know why you would have no reason not to be under this guy.
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  Yeah. And it and it makes it makes a
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  fun conversation for some of those teams that were maybe in
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  the hunt that could have just used a little bit more in this
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  post season. When you take out the
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  powerhouses, you can look at like a Detroit Tigers, you know,
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  you can look at the heck, even at Kansas City Royals.
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  If I'm from Japan, I don't know if I'm going to want to go to
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  Missouri, But you know, hey, they each is their own.
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  But I think there's a lot of conversations that could open
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  up. You know, when you look at like
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  free agent lists, you see some teams that you know, like the
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  Nationals are, are buyers in a lot of these predictions.
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  You got to assume maybe the the Mets are in cover.
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  You know, it's Yamamoto and Otani, maybe Sanga and Sasaki.
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  Maybe that works a little bit. So there's some there's some
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  teams out there that I as fun and as easy it is as it is, if
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  you're Dodgers fans, just say like, you know, hey, come join
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  the force. You know, there's, there's a lot
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  of other opportunities out there and, and.
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  Similar to the conversation we had surrounding Soto about
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  wanting to be on a team where you can, you talked pretty
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  heavily about it last episode, but wanting to be on a team
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  where you can essentially call it your team, even if you're
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  surrounded by other stars who are maybe a Tier 2 below you,
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  without a doubt your team is that's going to be something
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  that motivates Juan Soto in his, in his free agency.
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  That same to me at least, and I think some other folks out there
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  asking the same question is, is this going to be a a concern of,
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  of his? Yeah.
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  Like are you are you are are we just going to assume that he's
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  going to end up in LA just because of the like the Otani
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  Baz and and the potential to win year in and year out?
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  Or are you going to want to go to maybe a place where it's
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  like, I'm 23, yeah, I have pretty much my whole career
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  ahead of me, Maybe I want to go elsewhere where that can be my
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  team. I I just don't know what sort of
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  impact that plays from the Japanese perspective.
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  It's true, but I mean you you got to you got to assume the
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  Mariners are in the conversation, right.
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  If he grew up in Ichiro fan, which I'm sure majority of them
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  have, you know, it's it's you have monumental, you know,
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  figures that you got to grow up idolizing.
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  And you know, you could look at the Yankees for a Matsui
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  connection. Like there's some things that
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  could come into the conversation a little bit where there's a
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  balance of, you know, I I feel like he's I feel like that, you
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  know, the Japanese players always pick a coast.
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  Feels like it's always a coast. So actually you Darvish was a
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  Ranger? Didn't he start out as a Ranger?
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  Yeah. I mean, more times than not, I
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  think it's a safe bet, yeah. Yeah, 'cause I.
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  Think you're right. Like it, it may sound silly, but
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  it's like if you, if you're coming out of Japan, I just, I,
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  I just don't know if the barbecue in the Midwest is
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  enough to lure you there, you know, like.
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  Well, I mean, you got it. Yeah.
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  When you look at some of those big cities, like they have, you
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  know, more cultural footprints there, I guess you could say
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  versus, you know, I keep, I keep falling back in Kansas City, but
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  like taking some ricochets. But yeah, I just don't, I don't
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  see it there. You know, I don't see him going
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  down to Atlanta or Houston. Just doesn't.
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  It doesn't ring the same way. Yeah, I'm having, I'm, I'm
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  really having a hard time visualizing the Kirk Cousins in
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  Atlanta effect on a guy like Rokie Sasaki.
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  Kirk Cousins is an anomaly, that's for sure.
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  I mean you that. Man's awesome.
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  You, more so than me, are very aware of the Atlanta effect on
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  Kirk Cousins. Like from the day he got there
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  his his intro press conference to today.
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  That's a changed man. Oh yeah, for sure.
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  Invited to a lot of barbecues for sure.
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  Do we see a guy like Rokie Sasaki swag surfing with
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  multiple chains around his neck? I I don't know.
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  I don't know. Hard to say, yeah.
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  These are questions that have to be asked though as as every team
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  is in in the mix here, but a name that well, I.
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  Was going to say, if you're the Orioles, you got to, you got to
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  do something. You know what I mean?
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  Like I'd, I'd like for you to do something, think you need to do
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  something. And that's a, that's an easy
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  one. And it's low risk.
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  The price is just, it's low risk.
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  He's young. You can groom him a little bit.
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  Anyway, you're up. If you're the Orioles, you like
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  Corbin Burns, walk out the door and go get Roki.
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  Not the same. No, but I'm saying if that's the
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  direction they're head, I'm not, I'm not suggesting or
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  recommending that they do that. But if you let it, I know, but
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  I'm saying if you let him walk out the door, that's a very easy
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  pivot and that's a move where you could, you could easily
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  justify the the, the move or or the pivot, I should say, due to
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  the financial yeah, savings there.
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  Like if that's what you want to fall back on.
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  Again, not recommending that does it?
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  Cap out. Does it cap out at that number?
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  Does it cap at like the 7 1/2 or whatever it is?
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  Can they go above that? What's cool about international
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  money is that it can be, it can be traded, it can be included in
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  transactions. Yep.
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  So, you know, if say, for example, you know, it never
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  happened, but like maybe the Mariners trade Julio Rodriguez
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  and instead of kicking in some of the money, you know, for the
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  for the contract, maybe they asked for money.
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  But you know, like they can get money back.
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  You can get you can kind of build off of that a little bit.
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  So it's fun. It's fun to play with and it
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  makes the conversations a lot more open, I think, a lot more
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  opportunities. No, but what I was what I was
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  going to what I was saying earlier, a guy that comes to
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  mind is you Darvish, because apparently you Darvish has has
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  served as a mentor to to Rokie. And he, I believe I read that
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  has the same agent and also read that he helped him develop his
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  slider was I believe the pitch that that.
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  Would work. It's a budgetary move.
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  They don't have a ton of money to work with.
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  So like, if you take what I was proposing earlier where it's
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  like, OK, maybe he does want to go to a team where he can just
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  be the guy and, and sort of break free of the, the Japanese
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  connection. It seems like most of the guys
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  seek that out. I would say they come over
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  there, but maybe I, I don't know, maybe he's different.
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  If he is, throw that out the window.
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  I I don't know. I I can't blame him, you know
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  what I mean? Like if I move to a different
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  country in my 1 connection, you know what I mean?
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  Like, sure, I'm in a brand new city.
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  I don't know anybody. I don't speak the language, I
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  don't know the culture. Yeah, I would want to know some.
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  I would want to have a teammate that I could fall back on and
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  help that transition period. So it's a no brainer.
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  It just kind of stinks for some of those teams that are like,
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  Dang, we don't have anybody. I've been looking around the
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  league, some of the some of who we some of these names you've
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  already mentioned. But I mean, you've got you've
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  got Yoshida, you've got Zenga, you've got Saya Suzuki in
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  Chicago, Shota Imanaga in Chicago, you say Kikuchi, who's
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  a free agent and then obviously out in LA that situation, but
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  you've got Japanese ties there. I don't like the way Boston
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  treats Yoshida. Can I say that?
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  Absolutely. Yeah.
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  It's very. It's a very strange situation.
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  Very odd. It's really good.
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  It's like we do not want you to even think about dreaming about
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  touching the outfield grass. Yeah.
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  So we want you to hit, but we're going to.
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  Give you the absolute shortest side of a platoon that's ever
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  been handed out in Major League Baseball.
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  Yeah, I don't like it. We only want you to hit when
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  it's overcast over 75° on Tuesdays.
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  That's basically, that's basically a situation they've
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  put Yoshida in. So jokes aside, I I don't know
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  how much of AA rousing. That's what I'm saying.
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  Like how much is Yoshida being like, skip it, I'll meet you
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  there, I'll meet you somewhere else.
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  It'd be nice to have you here, but I I'm not going.
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  Out of here soon. Yeah, I'm not.
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  I'm not going to point you in that direction.
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  So I. Don't think of like rumors about
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  him at the trade deadline too. Yeah, I'm pretty sure they were
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  looking to trade him. For a.
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  Good amount of time. Chicago's cool Imaga Suzuki
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  trying to build a little something.
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  That's a budgetary move. You know, I mean, selfishly, I
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  would love to see this. I mean, just young talented kid
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  look at this and go. I don't I'll pass on the LA
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  thing. It'd be great.
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  It'd be I mean, it would just blow up headlines for sure.
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  But like, I just hope there's this, there's there's like an
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  element of competitiveness in him that that revolves around
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  wanting to not be on a super team.
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  Like, let me let me team up with like an Imanaga in Chicago.
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  And like, let's sort of, I mean, they're not going to necessarily
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  compete with LA just with that sole addition because they
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  obviously need to make more moves to match A-Team like the
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  Dodgers. But like, let me be part of that
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  process. Let me be part of, let me be
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  part of the growth of a of an organization that's in the in
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  the works, in, in, in progress of building themselves up to a
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  echelon of the Dodgers, maybe not to the level, but in, in
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  that same atmosphere. Also, you're you're if you
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  succeed there, you're beloved. Like it's, it's a great spot.
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  Some would say it's it's a perfect spot when it comes to
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  like not a ton of pressure. You know, you are the Mets, you
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  are the Yankees, you are the Dodgers, you are the Padres.
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  There's immediate pressure, there's immediate expectations.
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  Chicago, we're just kind of happy.
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  Go lucky. We'll take what they can get if
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  you win, we're happy if you lose.
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  We're still drinking beer. We're still, we're still fans,
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  we're still loving Chicago. So it's a funny aspect to that.
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  What's the deal though? What's the deal with like the
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  the minor league situation? Like what if it's a minor league
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  contract? Is that, is that what he's
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  they're saying he can't? Be added to.
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  The 40 man like what is the stipulation there?
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  Hold on here, I've got that somewhere.
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  Respect on the crew neck, by the way.
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  Thank you. Thank you.
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  Cream, cream, You know it. Crew neck.
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  You know it. Is Meredith dressing you
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  nowadays? I'm dressing myself, though,
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  Sasaki, hold on. So this is, according to ESPN.
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  The timing of Sasaki's posting, which is yet to be set, sources
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  said, will determine whether he falls into the 2024-2025
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  international class. Like we talked about, when a
• 23:51
  player's posted, he has 45 day window to sign with a Major
• 23:53
  League team. Though Sasaki would join an
• 23:55
  organization on a minor league deal, A-Team can add him to its
• 23:58
  Major League roster before the 2025 season.
• 24:02
  So it sounds like regardless the international class, he can be
• 24:05
  added before the season starts. To what?
• 24:09
  I just don't get why it has to be considered a minor league
• 24:11
  deal. Yeah, that was it.
• 24:13
  That was the element of it that I wasn't quite tracking with.
• 24:16
  But sure, there's some fine print that explains it.
• 24:19
  But yeah, did not come across, said fine print.
• 24:22
  All right, good deal, good deal. Whatever.
• 24:26
  How do you feel about the health issues?
• 24:28
  Because like, let's face it, it's not something that that
• 24:34
  this transition is is putting to bed.
• 24:39
  You know, like there's a long history of injuries with Otani
• 24:45
  Yamamoto is another example of it.
• 24:47
  This year, I didn't look up Imanaga's numbers.
• 24:50
  I think he stayed fairly healthy.
• 24:53
  But Imanaga pitches differently. You know what I mean?
• 24:55
  He's he's 9293. He's soft and and kind of works
• 25:00
  at the bottom of the zone. A lot of spin when we're talking
• 25:02
  high Velo, we're just we're used to seeing these injuries.
• 25:07
  And I get that it's low risk. I get that there's, you know,
• 25:10
  not a ton of money right now, you know, Sanga being in that
• 25:15
  list, different injury, I think not an arm injury, but you just
• 25:20
  you have to have that as a question mark.
• 25:23
  You have to have that. And it's hard to grab a guy like
• 25:28
  this at his age and say you're immediately stepping into the
• 25:32
  rotation. You're immediately, you know,
• 25:35
  pitching in for us when the truth is like, we don't know if
• 25:40
  we can rely on a fully healthy season right now.
• 25:45
  Career high in innings was 129 in the third two years ago, back
• 25:51
  in 2022. This year he made 18 starts
• 25:57
  following an oblique tear which caused him to miss about 1/4 of
• 26:05
  his starts. So yeah, I mean.
• 26:10
  And for those that aren't familiar, I mean, we've talked
• 26:13
  about it before, but like it's, it's obviously a slightly
• 26:16
  different ball. It's a six man rotation.
• 26:21
  So the schedule changes up a little bit.
• 26:24
  And let's face it, I mean, I no disrespect to Japanese baseball,
• 26:29
  but Japanese hitters are not Major League Baseball hitters.
• 26:33
  So not just those differences, but you're coming into a league
• 26:36
  that has much better hitters, much better competition, and
• 26:40
  maybe you're trying to touch that one O 2 more often here
• 26:44
  than you were back home. And all of those are factors.
• 26:47
  All of those come into play. And it it sucks.
• 26:52
  Like I I don't want to continue to see these injuries, but they
• 26:55
  do continue to happen. And the Yamamoto was not an
• 27:01
  exception this year. Now it's again washed away
• 27:05
  because of winning. It's washed away because of a a
• 27:08
  trophy. But if he does go to a Tigers or
• 27:12
  a Cubs or, you know, a Mets or a team that may fall short, are we
• 27:18
  going to have that conversation over and over and over?
• 27:22
  And Show has the Unicorn, right? Because he hits.
• 27:26
  And even through the injury, he still provides MVP caliber play.
• 27:30
  But like for a pitcher only it's part of the combo.
• 27:39
  I guess that's what's nice is if it's like, man, whatever it was
• 27:42
  $6 million we missed out on this year.
• 27:44
  You know, that's why I feel like any team that signs him, that
• 27:50
  can't be your sole starting pitching edition in this
• 27:54
  offseason. It can't be your.
• 27:55
  You know all chips in the middle of the table on this.
• 27:59
  I mean, you have to, you have to think, you have to wonder if
• 28:03
  Major League Baseball isn't already preparing itself to
• 28:07
  equip or adopt, I should say a, a six man rotation because.
• 28:14
  As well with. With the, the value, I mean, I,
• 28:17
  I know that they're, they're trying to incorporate or
• 28:21
  they're, they're talking about implementing regulations to for
• 28:25
  minimum innings and this and that.
• 28:27
  I understand that. But just on a perception level,
• 28:32
  the, the value of starting pitchers is just plummeting.
• 28:36
  And then with this influx of talent from from overseas as as
• 28:40
  we continue and we've been talking about this for years, as
• 28:44
  the, the, the question marks sort of diminish surrounding the
• 28:51
  capabilities and, and the ability to hang on behalf of
• 28:55
  these, these guys coming over from Japan.
• 28:57
  Like as we sort of put that to bed and we're like, OK, these
• 29:01
  guys are proving themselves more.
• 29:03
  So year after year after year there, you can only imagine that
• 29:07
  that the number of guys that comes over is only going to
• 29:10
  increase. So with that said, you have to
• 29:13
  wonder if every team ends up with one, maybe even two of
• 29:19
  these stars that are coming over from Japan.
• 29:22
  Like maybe they're looking around and and their front
• 29:24
  office going well, I mean, there's some other teams around
• 29:27
  the league that are or that have already shifted to the six man
• 29:31
  rotation. Why don't we?
• 29:32
  Yeah. I I think you have to be willing
• 29:36
  to, if you make that addition, you have to be willing to, it
• 29:41
  makes sense if, if you're going to especially, you know, for
• 29:45
  like someone getting the Yamamoto contract, that just
• 29:49
  feels like, yeah, we, you know, we're investing that kind of
• 29:52
  money. Let's make sure that we're it's
• 29:57
  like putting the, you know, the wrong gas in, in a premium, you
• 30:00
  know, like not putting premium gas in a luxury vehicle.
• 30:03
  You're putting in, you know, regular gas and it's like
• 30:06
  eventually you're going to run into some issues.
• 30:08
  Why don't we just adjust to the, you know, the vehicle and if a
• 30:12
  team can adjust to their signing, I like it.
• 30:18
  But baseball's always, you know, it's, it's just kind of feels
• 30:21
  this way league wide right now. Everybody's kind of going that
• 30:24
  direction. You're not getting a ton of
• 30:26
  length out of teams. By the way, I was scrolling
• 30:28
  through and I think I saw it was, I don't remember what year
• 30:32
  it was that Pedro got his first Cy Young.
• 30:35
  I think it was like 97, something like that.
• 30:40
  He was an Expo. Yeah, that sounds right.
• 30:43
  Sub 3 ERA over 300 punches, 13 complete games.
• 30:53
  You don't have. You don't.
• 30:54
  You just don't see that anymore. You just don't see that 97,
• 31:00
  Yeah. 97 Yeah, just wild. I missed those days.
• 31:04
  Had a. War of nine that year.
• 31:09
  But yeah, I, I don't mean to be a Debbie Downer.
• 31:12
  I don't mean to, you know, be negative about it.
• 31:16
  It's just, it's something to consider.
• 31:17
  I think it's a part of the equation now, as it as it always
• 31:21
  has been. It's just there's less risk
• 31:25
  involved because you're not, you know, sending 300 mil to this
• 31:27
  guy yet. Speaking of money, the Marlins
• 31:35
  are forking over some cash for a new manager have hired LA
• 31:41
  Dodgers first base coach Clayton McCullough.
• 31:44
  Nailed it there it. Is Clayton McCullough Is.
• 31:48
  That Irish I think it is. It can only go one of two ways.
• 31:55
  I thought initially maybe it was McAuliffe.
• 31:58
  Didn't feel right. Yeah, it didn't didn't hit
• 32:00
  right. Yeah, I think it's McCullough.
• 32:02
  I verified with with a few YouTube videos that I pulled up
• 32:06
  super quick. McCullough.
• 32:09
  Clayton McCullough is taking over for Skip Schumacher.
• 32:17
  This seems like such a Marlins move, you know?
• 32:22
  I mean, there's worse organizations to go pluck your
• 32:24
  next manager from, you know? I that's what I'm saying.
• 32:27
  That's exactly what I'm saying. It's like it's like, it just
• 32:32
  seems like APR move. You know what I mean?
• 32:37
  Bringing in the winning culture. What's his first name?
• 32:41
  Clayton Clayton Clayton McCullough.
• 32:45
  I based on the headline picture, he's the first base coach.
• 32:49
  Is that what that looked like? I saw like a home run
• 32:51
  celebration. Yeah, yeah.
• 32:55
  All right. I mentioned that.
• 32:57
  Oh, did you? I wasn't listening.
• 32:59
  No, I know. It's all right.
• 33:00
  I. Was just waiting for you to try
• 33:01
  and pronounce it. Good stuff, good stuff.
• 33:04
  Why? At least let's grab something
• 33:07
  positive out of this. They did it early enough in the
• 33:12
  offseason. Allow him to create whatever
• 33:16
  kind of culture he wants to create down there.
• 33:21
  Whatever. I'm fully out of the Marlins,
• 33:23
  dude. You tried.
• 33:25
  You really tried. You gave it your.
• 33:27
  You gave it your. Best ever there.
• 33:29
  Yeah, the old college try, but I'm just I'm all down there.
• 33:32
  He was, albeit in the minors, he was a career catcher, so there
• 33:40
  is that element to it. Always like that.
• 33:42
  You love your catchers. You love your catchers at the
• 33:44
  helm. Yeah, nothing against Clayton.
• 33:46
  It's it's just the Marlins are what's worse than a dumpster
• 33:51
  fire? The Marlins 50 feet of crap
• 34:04
  dumpster fire. The Miami is Marlins.
• 34:08
  Is Marlins, Rockies are in there somewhere?
• 34:11
  They're right. They're yeah, they're pretty
• 34:14
  stinky too. Yeah, I mean, heck of.
• 34:20
  A week, Yeah, we're going to have to start coming up with
• 34:26
  some stuff. No, no, I'm I'm that's a
• 34:28
  separate thing I'm saying from this item, though, Like I I'm
• 34:32
  trying to find a positive. Really the only thing that I can
• 34:35
  get from it to your point is like the whole winning culture
• 34:38
  thing, but it's like we sort of tried that with Don Mattingly.
• 34:43
  And I'm I'm not saying Clayton McCullough is Don Don Mattingly,
• 34:46
  but it's we we've seen this before.
• 34:48
  Skip Schumacher, obviously a great baseball mind we that we
• 34:51
  brought him in for what it's just it seems like another to
• 34:57
  your point, maybe it maybe APR move.
• 34:59
  It just seems like another stab at like, let's just bring in a
• 35:03
  guy that has a little bit of winning pedigree on his resume
• 35:08
  and just see what he can do with our rather disappointing roster.
• 35:16
  Roster, front office, farm, you name it.
• 35:25
  No, don't jump the gun. Do the the Marlins have a decent
• 35:28
  farm, don't they? I would guess they're out of the
• 35:34
  top 10. Out of the top ten, I'm seeing
• 35:43
  the last list. Somebody can correct me if I'm
• 35:46
  wrong. I just pulled the the 1st result
• 35:48
  here. I I'm seeing the Marlins listed
• 35:51
  at the in season 2024 rankings, which I'm sure they're coming
• 35:56
  out with the end of season It's. Always new rankings.
• 36:01
  Yeah, but the list I'm looking at has them 15th.
• 36:05
  Told you. Which is crazy because the the
• 36:08
  they started the they started the season this past year 20.
• 36:13
  Like the 2024 season, they started the preseason 29th.
• 36:16
  Yeah, it's good for what? What's the point?
• 36:22
  What's the point of having that farm?
• 36:24
  What are you going to do with it?
• 36:27
  They're going to succeed for a year, few years, and then you
• 36:30
  ship them out. What a train wreck, dude.
• 36:34
  Good luck, McCullough. Enjoy.
• 36:38
  Like good for you, you guys management experience, but.
• 36:41
  You could manage in a worse place.
• 36:43
  I'm not going to like. My, it, it does have like the
• 36:46
  aspect that it is Miami, you know, at least it's not.
• 36:51
  I don't like Tampa Bay. Oh, we didn't even talk about
• 36:54
  which I mean, we at this point we don't have to because it's
• 36:57
  outdated. But did we even talk about did
• 37:02
  we cover Will Venable? I feel like we did, didn't we?
• 37:07
  Did we not? That must have been, I don't
• 37:14
  remember when that happened, but must have been like at a weird
• 37:17
  time with our recording schedule.
• 37:18
  But yeah, I mean, that you look at that situation, it's like,
• 37:21
  well, at least this is not Chicago.
• 37:23
  At least it's not Will Venable falling into a similar situation
• 37:29
  with the roster construction but also has to deal with just
• 37:33
  garbage weather. What do you think is next for
• 37:35
  Grady Sizemore? What do you do next?
• 37:40
  I really thought maybe they just give him a shot, you know, I.
• 37:43
  Don't get it. I don't get what the what the
• 37:50
  Some people are just really tone deaf.
• 37:52
  Some organizations don't understand.
• 37:58
  A lot of these decisions seem just really simple.
• 38:00
  And I understand that these are like million, billion dollar
• 38:03
  businesses, franchises. I get it.
• 38:06
  But like, I don't know, maybe you have too many people in the
• 38:12
  room that think they're the smartest person in the room and
• 38:15
  they they out think themselves. Is that what the White Sox are
• 38:18
  doing? Is that what the Marlins are
• 38:20
  doing? I don't think they're out
• 38:21
  thinking anything. It's hard to say.
• 38:28
  Hard to say. You know who else is not
• 38:29
  thinking? Wander Franco, arrested today
• 38:33
  actually in the Dr. in what is being described as an harmed
• 38:41
  altercation. How does this?
• 38:44
  How does this happen? Is my.
• 38:46
  Question guy not in prison. That's what I'm saying I.
• 38:50
  Think roaming around. I'm tired of seeing the clips of
• 38:52
  you hitting BP, by the way, in Ray's gear.
• 38:56
  Take that off, stay away from kids and go fall off a Cliff
• 39:03
  somewhere. Police sources confirm that
• 39:08
  Franco and an unarmed an unnamed woman were being held for
• 39:12
  questioning following the incident.
• 39:15
  Do we know the age of the unnamed woman?
• 39:17
  This guy stinks. How is he roaming around?
• 39:26
  Sort of say one of the guns presumably belonged to Franco,
• 39:29
  who was allegedly fighting with the other man over the woman's
• 39:32
  attention. Come on, man, you got to.
• 39:35
  I mean, I understand you're probably you're seeing the
• 39:38
  writing on the wall, but like, give yourself even the slimmest
• 39:42
  chance to get out of this with some sliver of dignity.
• 39:50
  The reason you're in this predicament in the 1st place was
• 39:53
  over an underage woman and now you're getting an armed
• 39:57
  altercations over a woman. Guy sucks.
• 40:02
  This guy's got major just woman issues.
• 40:09
  There's no other way to put it. I I don't get it.
• 40:13
  This guy's fixated on trying to please the opposite sex.
• 40:17
  I don't get it. Put them in jail.
• 40:21
  What is the judicial system doing down there?
• 40:24
  What we got going on? I mean, can we start with a
• 40:27
  vasectomy first? Maybe a castration?
• 40:35
  Let's get rid of. This, I guess either or.
• 40:39
  I don't know. I don't know if that'll fix the
• 40:41
  problem, but it can't hurt, right?
• 40:43
  I don't, I don't know. This guy sucks if I'm the race.
• 40:49
  Also. Doing whatever I can to get that
• 40:52
  guy to stop wearing our logo. That's a good point.
• 40:58
  No, I know exactly what you're talking about.
• 41:00
  I've seen the same video. So I'm like this just feel this
• 41:02
  feels wrong. It feels like you're somehow
• 41:05
  holding out hope that you're coming back.
• 41:06
  You're not coming back. You're not, you're not coming
• 41:09
  back. No, but I, I made a mistake
• 41:13
  earlier. I said underage woman.
• 41:14
  This was very much an underage girl.
• 41:16
  Girl. Yes, it's just a girl.
• 41:18
  Without a doubt. So yeah, that's that's the
• 41:22
  latest on Wanda Franco. But other than that.
• 41:25
  That's the last time I want to hear about this guy.
• 41:29
  No more headlines. You did.
• 41:30
  You know it's a slow week and this idiot is cracking.
• 41:34
  Cracking headlines. Well, I mean, if it came out and
• 41:39
  was like Wanda Franco's unpaid leave has been extended another
• 41:46
  like whatever, that wasn't going to include that.
• 41:48
  But the fact that the fact that he was in an an armed
• 41:51
  altercation, I was like, OK, well, I feel like we at least
• 41:55
  got to didn't mention it. But yeah, I'm with you.
• 41:58
  I'm over. I'm over talking Wanda Franco.
• 42:01
  Yeah. But that's all I got.
• 42:05
  We need to, we need to inject some, some change UPS into our
• 42:09
  into our schedule. That really gets the some.
• 42:12
  Three O change. UPS people going.
• 42:14
  At least I hope it does. I'd like to think people would
• 42:18
  be honest with us if they. The people loved it.
• 42:20
  They've they've reached out to me and I'm not that I'm not
• 42:23
  blowing smoke. They've legitimately reached out
• 42:25
  to me. They love the they love the
• 42:27
  Costco episode we did. They loved the a lot of people
• 42:31
  related to the flying episode. We did a lot of people.
• 42:38
  Flying, yeah, we got to get some good ones in there.
• 42:44
  Where's? Pizza.
• 42:46
  Just talk pizza. We could yeah have have we not
• 42:49
  done a pizza 1 I. Don't think we've done pizza.
• 42:51
  One would. Be good we could we could talk
• 42:53
  pizza for. Because it all day.
• 42:56
  Hours, there's so much there, you wouldn't even be able to
• 42:59
  cover all the things that you'd want to.
• 43:00
  You'd need to talk about pizza and for if if you're a new
• 43:03
  listener, you'd have no idea what we're talking about in the
• 43:06
  offseason. Did we?
• 43:07
  Did we start it two offseasons ago?
• 43:12
  Maybe. I feel like we did two
• 43:14
  offseasons ago or maybe last offseason we started doing, we
• 43:18
  started introducing this segment in the offseason called Three O
• 43:21
  change UPS. Obviously you have the three O
• 43:22
  Take, which is the podcast, which by the way, thank you for
• 43:26
  listening, Thank you for watching.
• 43:28
  We love your sport, appreciate it.
• 43:30
  But the the three O change UPS was just a way for us to get
• 43:35
  into some topics that are not baseball related.
• 43:39
  So to where we sort of change things up and talk about non
• 43:43
  baseball things. We've talked about talked about
• 43:47
  fast food, we've talked about Costco, we've talked about
• 43:49
  flying. We've done Thanksgiving.
• 43:53
  We need we got to do Christmas this year.
• 43:55
  We got to get a. Christmas 1 Christmas one would
• 43:57
  would go hard and we you could talk hours on on all things
• 44:02
  Christmas. Yeah.
• 44:04
  Baseball movies, I think, right? Board.
• 44:06
  Well, now that's a baseball thing.
• 44:08
  Oh, this? Yeah, sure, sure.
• 44:10
  We've done board games. We there's some other things we
• 44:13
  can get in there. What is pizza?
• 44:15
  Yeah, I I say we make pizza. Candy.
• 44:18
  We did candy. Right.
• 44:19
  I think we did do candy, cereal. Did we do cereal?
• 44:22
  A lot of food stuff we like. We like, you know.
• 44:26
  Pizza, I say. Oh, we, I say pizza.
• 44:27
  Is a good one, huh? We go pizza, let's go pizza like
• 44:31
  that. And the beautiful thing, again,
• 44:32
  if you're a new listener and you're and you're sort of
• 44:34
  unfamiliar with this, the beautiful thing about it is like
• 44:36
  it's just so it's not, it's not tacked on to these episodes.
• 44:40
  It's just a bonus pod. Yeah, we don't.
• 44:42
  Like you don't listen you. Know bonus pods I should say
• 44:45
  that we just drop throughout the offseason and if you don't want
• 44:48
  to listen so be it you can stick with the baseball talk but it
• 44:52
  gives you a chance to to hear some some takes of hours on
• 44:55
  things non base prolated. So yeah, I said.
• 45:00
  What about the ocean That's. One of my worst fears, if not my
• 45:07
  worst fear. I think so.
• 45:08
  Too deep. Deep, dark water.
• 45:10
  Like we could really, we could really do that.
• 45:14
  We could. I like that.
• 45:17
  Treasure hunting, the Titanic. All things all things open.
• 45:22
  Sea pirates, Pirates. Tsunamis.
• 45:27
  We're watching. What are those typhoon things?
• 45:32
  Hurricanes, technically, What else you got?
• 45:35
  What? Are you watching?
• 45:35
  Speaking of pirates, you you guys watching the Outer Banks at
• 45:39
  all? No, I thought that was like a
• 45:41
  teenager show. Is that like a?
• 45:43
  They're like supposed to be high schoolers slash like of college.
• 45:47
  Age. There we go.
• 45:48
  I'm telling you, dude, it's a great show.
• 45:51
  It's a fantastic show, and I'm not going to spoil anything if
• 45:55
  we do have any Outer Banks fans here that maybe haven't gotten
• 45:58
  to the finale of Season 4. But when you get to it, feel
• 46:03
  free to hit me up in the messages and we can talk things
• 46:06
  through together because I'm tough, tough place.
• 46:12
  We're currently watching, it's called Physical 100.
• 46:16
  It's on Netflix and it's like a Korean like fitness show and
• 46:27
  it's sick. It's so sick.
• 46:30
  Physical 100. Physical One. 100 and you got to
• 46:33
  watch it in Korean makes it so much better.
• 46:36
  OK, sure. I'm serious watching like we're
• 46:40
  watching. We got the English subtitles
• 46:41
  going. It's sick.
• 46:43
  It's like they bring in 100 people that are like somewhere
• 46:46
  like bodybuilders, somewhere like CrossFit, somewhere like
• 46:51
  like gymnasts, somewhere like Olymp, like Olympians, like all
• 46:56
  kinds. And they just do like physical
• 46:58
  challenges and they slowly get eliminated to figure out like
• 47:01
  what physique is like the best physique.
• 47:04
  It's wild. It's it's cool.
• 47:09
  Maybe we could do a change up on on TV shows.
• 47:11
  I think we did one on the Office.
• 47:13
  We did. One of us, yeah.
• 47:17
  All right, so pizza we'll go. That'll be the first one we
• 47:20
  dropped this offseason. It's pizza.
• 47:23
  And then feel free to hit us up with some some suggestion ideas
• 47:29
  of topics you want to hear us talk about.
• 47:32
  We won't promise that we'll get to it, but like we'll certainly
• 47:35
  take it into consideration because if you, if you, if you
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  hit us up in the message and the DMS and they're like, Hey, I
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  want you to talk about the impact of Wall Street in the
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  90s. It's like, I don't, I don't know
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  how much we could try. I don't pod don't know how much
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  you're going to get from us there, But you know some some
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  topics of interest. Was that guy Gordon Gekko?
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  Believe so. Yeah.
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  Is that Charlie Sheen? Who was that?
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  I don't know. I don't even know what you're
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  talking about. Wall Street, Isn't that the
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  movie? I was talking about the actual
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  Wall Street, but. Well, they're like talking on
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  the phone and it's like this. Yeah, yeah, yeah.
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  Small. They're like holding up a small
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  aircraft to talk. Yeah.
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  So yeah. Well, hit us up with some ideas,
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  some topic ideas. You want to hear us cover for
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  the three O change UPS? I think we'll start with pizza,
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  but other than that, you'll hear from us later this week.
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  Thursday night we'll be going, we should be going live, but if
• 48:42
  if you're more of an audio person should be dropping that
• 48:45
  night and it'll be there ready there for you Friday morning.
• 48:50
  Good stuff. We brought the we brought the
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  sauce today. Pizza sauce.
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  Keep it up. Don't go chasing girl balls.
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  Levion is always looking forward to talking more baseball with
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  you guys soon. Until next time, stay filthy.