Latest / DidiLawren / 'Racist' Britain & Ngozi Fulani
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- 0:09Hello, and welcome back to my channel.
- 0:10My name is Lorenzo defect and this is Bunty laurentia.
- 0:15How are you all doing a hope you're doing great for today's
- 0:17episode. We're going to be talking about
- 0:19Gaza Fulani? No, it's not involved with
- 0:22Lonnie. No that's not the pronunciation.
- 0:24It is cozy Fulani. Now, if you don't don't go
- 0:29ziplining, Honey, I have never heard of her before until a
- 0:34couple of days ago now, because it for learning was invited to
- 0:37the palace for charity events. She has been doing work on
- 0:41domestic violence. Specific to African and
- 0:45Caribbean Heritage black people. Basically, she was invited to
- 0:51the Palace to talk about her charity and to create awareness.
- 0:56Now, I'm cutting some go see, Fulani, she was approached by
- 1:00Lady, Susan hen. See, or top Palace personal,
- 1:06according to her, she said that lady, Susan, approached her and
- 1:10this conversation ensued. Now let me just read out the
- 1:14conversation according to go. See Fulani.
- 1:17So she said that lady, Susan approached her and said, where
- 1:21are you from? And she said that she's from
- 1:24Sister space and Susan henze said we are You come from.
- 1:31She proceeded to say that we are based in Hackney and Lady.
- 1:36Susan said, know what part of Africa are you from?
- 1:43And she said that, I don't know. It didn't leave any records Now.
- 1:49Lady Susan said, well, you must know where you're from.
- 1:53I spent some time in France, where are you from?
- 1:57And she said, he UK a lazy, Susan proceeded to say that.
- 2:04No, but what nationality are you?
- 2:08She said, I am born here and I am British lady.
- 2:14Susan said, no. Well, where do you really come
- 2:19from? Where do you people come from?
- 2:22And she replied my people lady. What is this?
- 2:27And Lady Susan says, oh, I can see.
- 2:30See, we are going to have a challenge getting you to say
- 2:34where you're from. When did you first come here?
- 2:43He said, the lady. I am British.
- 2:45I am a British national. My parents came here in the 50s
- 2:51when it was. She was trying to explain and
- 2:54she was cut short, by Lady, Susan.
- 2:57Who said, oh, I knew we'd get there.
- 3:00In the end you are Caribbean and of course he said no lady.
- 3:05I am of African Heritage Caribbean descendants and
- 3:10British national and Lady Susan was like, oh so you are from you
- 3:16know so that was the end of the conversation that she mentioned.
- 3:22According to her this was what made her very uncomfortable.
- 3:26Now, when I first, you know her, About this or when I first
- 3:32listened to some of the interviews and comments it was
- 3:35funny to me because I was like, goes, 'you know what?
- 3:40This woman is asking you now before I am going to that
- 3:45because if fool, I need rest, I think she just Googled primitive
- 3:52Africa and she embodied that you know, infinitely myself.
- 3:57If I sit in Gaza Fulani. I would want to know where she's
- 4:01from though. The name is giving Highway
- 4:03because as a Nigerian I am evil and I know that the name in Gaza
- 4:08is evil and Fulani is actually a tribe of people, not just
- 4:14Nigeria, but they're scattered all over Africa because of the
- 4:17nature of their business. What they do is they react our
- 4:21tools and they move from their gypsies.
- 4:23Basically, they move from one place to the other, although
- 4:26some of them have settled in, Nigeria mean, our president is
- 4:29full of irony. So that is no question but me as
- 4:34a Nigerian, I wouldn't. I know that I'm gonna see is a
- 4:39Nigerian name but the way she dressed, I mean, come on, she
- 4:46dressed. I will be curious.
- 4:48I would want to know, you know, where are you from?
- 4:51You know, especially if you're not Nigerian, but just imagine
- 4:55me as a Nigerian, I would be curious to talk to her to know
- 4:59where she's from. So according to her, even before
- 5:01the conversation started lady, henze actually pulled off her
- 5:07hair to see her name tag. She said that was a violation of
- 5:10a space. She said that was abuse physical
- 5:13abuse. That nobody should touch her,
- 5:15especially knowing the culture that she's from, nobody should
- 5:19put her hands on her and all that.
- 5:21And people have this conversation, like, there were
- 5:24so many become a ratio conversation because lady hansy
- 5:30Resigned after the palace, actually, you know, even Prince
- 5:33William's, like, they just throw her to the wolves.
- 5:36Like this is an 80-something years old woman, from a
- 5:40different era. Although we can feel that's
- 5:43okay. We educated on various and
- 5:46everything, but these are people that are not on the internet.
- 5:49I mean, she's 87 80. Something years old, she may not
- 5:53even be aware of all these things.
- 5:54She grew up in a different era where slavery was acceptable.
- 6:00So, I don't, although that is not even an excuse.
- 6:03Like, what I just think is, there is no way you can talk
- 6:07about the, it's a double-edged sword.
- 6:09You cannot defend lady henze because of our age and you
- 6:14cannot totally agree with because the Fulani, because you
- 6:18do it where you worry costume, basically.
- 6:24So in that has to attract some kind of curiosity, if you're
- 6:29going to be Dressed like that. Now this is not talking about,
- 6:33okay, who is wrong and who is right?
- 6:35But there are so many conversations going on in line
- 6:38because there are two aspects of this conversation.
- 6:40Some people supporting and Gaza Fulani saying that, you know,
- 6:44racism the systemic racism in the UK, especially racism from
- 6:49the palace. I mean, if you talking about
- 6:52King Charles, when he was actually, when he became a king,
- 6:56I think during the models, burial, some And lined up trying
- 7:01to, you know, shake his hands. There was an African man.
- 7:04That was they who tried to shake him and he just walked past this
- 7:08man ignored him, move on to the next white person.
- 7:12Like there is racism. There's no reason Under the Sun.
- 7:17Why King Charles should have like skipped that black man and
- 7:24then move on to the next white person that is racism like
- 7:29Nobody's even arguing about the fact that there is racism in the
- 7:35UK in the palace, like the monarchy.
- 7:40These are the people that colonized the commonwealth
- 7:44countries. I don't think the argument is
- 7:46about whether there is racism or not.
- 7:50I think it is the context and it is the intent because we cannot
- 7:57take away. The fact that was afoot He felt
- 8:01that intention of Lady Susan. Hence it was her was racial like
- 8:07she's trying to discriminate her because she starts okay the way
- 8:11you're dressed. You must come from Africa.
- 8:14You must come from you know Caribbean even if you're born
- 8:17here, your parents. What is your heritage?
- 8:21Somebody can look at that and be like, okay, that is curiosity.
- 8:25But if the question is asked seven times, He's trying to get
- 8:31you to say that you are Nigerian, go full-on ego from
- 8:37Caribbean to get to your roots. Then, I think that there is the
- 8:42intention there is what might make somebody feel
- 8:46uncomfortable. And the number of times that
- 8:49question was asked, would I have made somebody feel uncomfortable
- 8:52now, thinking about it? When I first saw this I laughed
- 8:57because to me, I was like Tyson, A simple question.
- 9:01Just answer your dress. You embody what kinda you embody
- 9:08African culture, and every even more than the Africans.
- 9:12So if somebody is asking you about your heritage, that should
- 9:15have been, you know, an easy question to answer but then
- 9:20again I had to kind of you know stop myself on that track.
- 9:25I was thinking okay because I'm a first-generation immigrants.
- 9:30I've lived over two decades in Nigeria before moving to the UK.
- 9:33Yes, I am British. But if you ask me, why you from,
- 9:38I will tell you, I am a Nigerian because even if I'm telling you,
- 9:42I'm British the way I talk, I am not doing any, there's no Amy in
- 9:48my voice. So you are going to know that, I
- 9:51am, no originally British, but then when it gets dicey is,
- 9:58let's say I didn't have a childhood.
- 9:59Here. And I'm telling this child, your
- 10:01Nigerian, even give them chiama. You know, this is my child's
- 10:08name is choma and they know, like, I have told them but they
- 10:14are Nigerian, but they are born. Here they go to school here.
- 10:17Everything they know is British culture, even if I've taken them
- 10:21back to Nigeria to spend one or two weeks, During their lifetime
- 10:26or maybe even yeley, I don't think that will negate the fact
- 10:34that they are British. So even if you ask that child
- 10:38where are you from? There are likely to tell you
- 10:41that they are British regardless of if their name is a formatted
- 10:45UK they are going to tell you they're British then it was are
- 10:49asking them where are your parents from?
- 10:53They can tell you yes my parents.
- 10:54They are Nigerian, you see. So I think there is that
- 10:59elements. The way for me, I thought about
- 11:03it. I was comfortable to say because
- 11:05if you love me you should have just said your Nigerian.
- 11:08But then again, when I listen to Gaza Fulani, when she was
- 11:11talking, she talked about, you know, she been, I think she's
- 11:15Caribbean to be honest with you because I mean, yeah, she's
- 11:21Caribbean but even the Caribbeans, Um, the Africans
- 11:27that were sold as slaves to this place is, and maybe she decided
- 11:32on her name, is not even on Gaza, flan.
- 11:34It. Let's just make that very clear.
- 11:37Her name is don't go ziplining. I don't even want to mention a
- 11:39name, but the reality is, there are still Africans.
- 11:45Even though she's Caribbean, she can wake up one day.
- 11:48Trace her Roots like Megan, Marco, who said, she is 40
- 11:52something percent Nigerian, and We accepted it.
- 11:55Like we are happy to accept anybody who is happy to
- 11:59identify. As us as Nigerian, we are happy
- 12:05with that V. I think one of the problems that
- 12:08I see here is the fact that people are not taking into
- 12:12account the way she looked. I understand that everybody has
- 12:20a right to dress the way they want to dress.
- 12:22Everybody has the right to Change their names to whatever
- 12:27they want to change their name to.
- 12:29But at the same time, if you're going to be a walking billboard
- 12:34to a particular cultural, I think it is only fair for you to
- 12:39understand. When somebody is asking you
- 12:43about. Because it was not about the
- 12:46charity for her to even touch her hair.
- 12:49You know, that it's about the appearance.
- 12:52It's about the way you look. There is this This lawyer is
- 12:57actually son in Nigeria, who dress like a native doctor, you
- 13:02know, to court. And he said, that is right.
- 13:05That is his religion. Everybody has rights of
- 13:09religion, because it was kind of accepted for people to wear.
- 13:14This, is it book or Tobin? We job.
- 13:19Sorry, the job of two schools and two offices.
- 13:23And to everywhere, like, Was now except I think was passed has a
- 13:27law or something like that. So he felt it is also his
- 13:32religious right as a traditionalist to dress as a
- 13:38traditionalist to court. And that was why he was tying
- 13:41red wrappers around his waist. He had white chalk, eyes people.
- 13:46We are curious, I mean, we're talking about in Nigeria, people
- 13:50were approaching him, he did a whole lot of interviews talking
- 13:53about. Why he is dressing that way and
- 13:57why he's identifying as a traditionalist.
- 14:00Now, this is in Nigeria the most populous, Black Nation on Earth,
- 14:08the have bit of Africa and even in that country, because he
- 14:13dressed difference to a courtroom where people is
- 14:20supposed to be a formal dressing.
- 14:22People will curious. He did so many interviews.
- 14:25Talking about this just imagine if he's dressing like that and
- 14:27he was asked why do you dress like this?
- 14:30And if you like yeah you know it is my rights don't be racist or
- 14:36you're being your racially abusing me or, you know,
- 14:40something like that actually. I just think it's kind of, it's
- 14:46a double-edged sword. Like there is no way you can
- 14:49win. I don't think I see any reason
- 14:52why if that question is then, Then put to you in a social
- 14:58context. Should we take that as racism?
- 15:03But then again, I understand that sometimes these people
- 15:09don't know because your parents are from Caribbean and you trace
- 15:15your route and they're telling you you're 40, you're 56 percent
- 15:20Nigerian and then you just Google and be like, okay,
- 15:24Nigerian name Godsey. Okay keep that aside what tribe?
- 15:28Because I have dreadlock what tribe should identify as and
- 15:32you're like Fulani and then you like okay this is it, how does
- 15:36African people dress and then you bought you just mush all
- 15:42those things together and body it and that is your identity but
- 15:48identity is not just about the way you look.
- 15:51If you're going to appropriate a particular Culture, that is like
- 15:58the blaring. I mean every I am very sure that
- 16:01everybody was if I was in that room, I will be looking at him
- 16:05go. See Fulani?
- 16:06And I am a Nigerian I was born in the north.
- 16:10I know more about the Fulani culture than I do about even my
- 16:16own culture because that's was my birthplace, and I grew up
- 16:21there and this that was my reality.
- 16:25So if you're going to embody a particular culture, it is only
- 16:30fair. You know, you're where you're
- 16:33from. And I have never been offended.
- 16:39When somebody asked me. Where are you from?
- 16:43Or we? Are you region?
- 16:44Because I have to tell you, I am Nigerian because I know who I
- 16:49am. I know where I'm from, I know my
- 16:53culture. I know, No, like it is me, it is
- 16:57ingrained in me, but I also understand that let's say, I
- 17:02have a child tomorrow. Yes.
- 17:04I'm telling that child your Nigerian, but what does that
- 17:08child know? It is a British culture and if
- 17:12that child goes out and the ask them, we are you from.
- 17:15And they said, I am British. We are you from.
- 17:18I am from London. We are your parents from if your
- 17:22child is not comfortable. Answering that question.
- 17:27That is fair. I mean, just keep it moving and
- 17:30stop asking people several times even touching their hair.
- 17:34I mean, it's you see there was a video of Kelly's, she was in.
- 17:41I think it was in Vietnam or something where people were
- 17:44just, like, intrigued about her hair.
- 17:47Like they were, have not seen that.
- 17:50She's did box braids. And people do we just intrigued
- 17:53to touch the Hair. Like do we just torturing her
- 17:57hair without even permission because that was the first time
- 18:00they were seeing something like that.
- 18:02So is it curiosity? Is it because you're seeing
- 18:07something for the first time? Or is it just racism?
- 18:14Is it at the end of the day? It is.
- 18:16The intention of why Lady Susan was asking persistent lease
- 18:23actually, seven times trying to get to know where ngozi Fulani
- 18:28is from, at the same time. What is the intention of Gaza
- 18:33Fulani being offended by those questions?
- 18:37I mean, we don't know if it was actually acts 7 times unless you
- 18:41had the tape recorder or Where do I go?
- 18:44I'm going to blame anybody, it is what it is.
- 18:48I think I am just happy that we're having this conversation.
- 18:51We're not just thinking about we as first generation immigrants
- 18:55being happy to provide this information.
- 18:57What about your children? Are they happy to probably say
- 19:01they are Nigerian even though they some of them have never
- 19:05been to Nigeria before. Your name is Faye me, ngozi and
- 19:11Hamza but Are they happy to say that they are?
- 19:16Nigerian, that is where the question come in.
- 19:20That is it? So, thank you very much for
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