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It's Name Was Evil · HOLOSKY PODCAST

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[SPEAKER_03]: We have our friend Brad and Brad wretch out to me on Instagram and said he said some wegyport experiences that kind of go across the spin chronologically.
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[SPEAKER_03]: It's
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[SPEAKER_03]: some pretty interesting, so I'm like, first he's like, I need to type it out, but I'm just too lazy.
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[SPEAKER_03]: So I'm like, I feel that.
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[SPEAKER_03]: Yeah, that.
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[SPEAKER_03]: So I'm like, just come on talk about it.
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[SPEAKER_03]: So we got him in studio today.
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[SPEAKER_03]: Welcome, Brad.
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[SPEAKER_03]: How are you?
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[SPEAKER_01]: I'm great.
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[SPEAKER_01]: Thanks for having me.
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[SPEAKER_03]: Thanks for coming on.
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[SPEAKER_01]: Yeah, that's dope.
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[SPEAKER_03]: Heck yeah, so yeah, you got you got some weed you board weirdness.
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[SPEAKER_03]: There's a yeah kind of following you through your life here.
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[SPEAKER_01]: Yeah, yeah, you know, started back I was praying about 12 years old.
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[SPEAKER_01]: Some 48 hours is a little bit of a span there, but I was at my aunt's house now.
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[SPEAKER_01]: The reason I didn't want to type it all because it's quite a bit, but one of the kind of give me old back story like my aunt is really big
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[SPEAKER_01]: She's had the devil like knock on her back door supposedly.
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[SPEAKER_01]: She, uh, she has the whole like journal written about this ghost that follows her around.
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[SPEAKER_01]: She, uh, has been like out about experiences.
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[SPEAKER_01]: She's done all kinds of crazy stuff like so the paranormal has been around her quite a bit.
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[SPEAKER_01]: That's a so wild.
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[SPEAKER_01]: Yeah, she had some cool stories.
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[SPEAKER_01]: Yeah, yeah, that's been pretty cool.
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[SPEAKER_01]: It's supposed to be a follow-up or like different houses.
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[SPEAKER_01]: And so, like she's talked to him quite a bit, but it's wild.
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[SPEAKER_01]: Yeah, so we're at her house when I was like 12 years old.
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[SPEAKER_01]: And I wanted to do the Ouija board.
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[SPEAKER_01]: You know, because she always talks about it.
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[SPEAKER_01]: So we get on there.
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[SPEAKER_01]: Me, my brother, he's an older brother.
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[SPEAKER_01]: He goes behind me and my mom and my aunt were there, my uncle.
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[SPEAKER_01]: But it was just me and my aunt doing the Ouija board.
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[SPEAKER_01]: We had a few spirits come on there, whatever.
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[SPEAKER_01]: And I know that she would never fake it, because she's big into this stuff, right?
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[SPEAKER_01]: So there was a spirit that finally came on.
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[SPEAKER_01]: That was very assertive.
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[SPEAKER_01]: Like it was quick.
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[SPEAKER_01]: I mean, like he was new what he was going to say.
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[SPEAKER_01]: And of course, I was a smart ass little 12-year-old.
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[SPEAKER_01]: And then I got to the point, it was like super aggressive.
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[SPEAKER_01]: Like it wasn't answering questions.
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[SPEAKER_01]: It was like demanding things, telling us what we're going to do.
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[SPEAKER_01]: And of course, my aunt was getting upset.
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[SPEAKER_01]: You know, she's like, no, we got to calm this down.
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[SPEAKER_01]: This is my house.
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[SPEAKER_01]: You know, you're not taking control.
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[SPEAKER_01]: And finally, I asked it.
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[SPEAKER_01]: I'm like, so what's your name?
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[SPEAKER_01]: Then it came out instantly evil.
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[SPEAKER_01]: I'm like, you know, you know, that's pretty weird.
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[SPEAKER_01]: Even for a 12 year old, I'm like, all right, maybe I shouldn't be a little smart ass of this thing.
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[SPEAKER_01]: And then, yeah, then it kept kind of being really aggressively, really.
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[SPEAKER_01]: I mean, the plant shells moving all around is very precise.
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[SPEAKER_01]: My aunt finally put a stop to it.
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[SPEAKER_01]: She's like, okay, and she's shut it down.
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[SPEAKER_01]: Need all the proper way that everything you're supposed
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[SPEAKER_02]: I feel that inside, you know.
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[SPEAKER_01]: Yeah, right.
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[SPEAKER_01]: Yeah, so she shunned it down.
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[SPEAKER_01]: She's like, this is getting too aggressive.
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[SPEAKER_01]: You know, it's getting, you know, very powerful kind on the Ouija board.
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[SPEAKER_01]: So we shut it down.
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[SPEAKER_01]: That's fine.
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[SPEAKER_01]: And that's the last that I really thought about it for a while.
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[SPEAKER_01]: Although that night, I remember, since we were at the kids, we had to sleep in the basement.
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[SPEAKER_01]: you know, creepy old house, you know, so we're in the basement, brothers on the bed, I'm on the floor to sleep and bag, pitch black, and I sound like someone was rearranging the basement, like Fox's move and I mean, there's no crazy sound and you know, so I just, you know, blanket over the head, you know, buried myself, but so her house is really weird to begin with, you know, her past and all that.
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[SPEAKER_01]: Was it the same house that like satin knock on the back door?
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[SPEAKER_01]: No, that was okay.
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[SPEAKER_01]: And older house.
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[SPEAKER_03]: So different things like, man, you're just asking for it at this point.
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[SPEAKER_01]: But, you know, and I didn't, it's kind of weird because like, so the next time that came up, I never really thought about that experience again.
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[SPEAKER_01]: I don't know, I always 12, you know, I didn't really care.
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[SPEAKER_01]: Just moving on to the next thing.
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[SPEAKER_01]: So you fast forward.
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[SPEAKER_01]: I was probably 17, 18 senior in high school paying out my buddies.
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[SPEAKER_01]: My one-body rented like a cheap little cabin, it was probably 200 bucks a month or something, you know, a little tiny, one-bedroom thing.
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[SPEAKER_01]: So we're all sitting there, you know, we're kind of partying it up, having a good time, like, you know, high school kids do.
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[SPEAKER_01]: And I remember my two, we have four of us in there.
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[SPEAKER_01]: My one-body was sitting,
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[SPEAKER_01]: kind of, in the chair, I was kick back on the bed, you know, to really say I was a tiny little apartment.
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[SPEAKER_01]: Then the two other friends are on the floor playing the Ouija board, like I'm messing with the Ouija board, shouldn't say playing I guess.
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[SPEAKER_01]: But they were going off, you know, they were supposedly talking to someone or whatever, you know, I wasn't really paying attention.
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[SPEAKER_01]: We were just having a good time.
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[SPEAKER_01]: Then all of a sudden they said it asked for me.
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[SPEAKER_01]: I'm like, no, what is like, yeah, it has to be for bread.
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[SPEAKER_01]: All right, whatever, I thought it was them screwing with me and I never told anybody this story about before because I never really thought about it.
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[SPEAKER_01]: So I asked who it was being a smart ass and then they said evil.
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[SPEAKER_01]: I'm like, oh, oh, this is weird.
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[SPEAKER_01]: You know what I'm saying?
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[SPEAKER_01]: I didn't tell them the story.
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[SPEAKER_01]: They didn't know about it.
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[SPEAKER_01]: So that's what it wanted.
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[SPEAKER_01]: Then it started kind of going off in
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[SPEAKER_01]: exactly everything it was saying.
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[SPEAKER_01]: I just know that it again, they were moving the plant shed around very quickly and finally they just gave up like they just picked their hands off like we're not doing this anymore.
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[SPEAKER_01]: And so it was super weird that came back you know like I said they didn't know the story but I never talked about it and
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[SPEAKER_01]: Yeah, I was just kick back on the bed and the fact that it asked for you specifically, right, and that's some crazy.
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[SPEAKER_01]: Yeah, so that kind of freaked me out, I was, you know, like, okay, I'm not messing with the thing.
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[SPEAKER_00]: I've done dinner done more than freaked me out.
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[SPEAKER_00]: Yeah, fucking shit in my pants.
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[SPEAKER_01]: Well,
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[SPEAKER_00]: Yeah, that's terrifying.
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[SPEAKER_00]: You know, you have no part of it.
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[SPEAKER_00]: Like, I'm not going to be able to shit.
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[SPEAKER_00]: Right.
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[SPEAKER_00]: Then it just, it calls your name and not to mention, then it uses its same name, you know, right.
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[SPEAKER_00]: Not that that's much of a name, but it's definitely something that it, you know, rings bells for you.
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[SPEAKER_03]: Yeah.
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[SPEAKER_03]: Were you, okay, prior to the encounter, like when you were 12, were you, were you into the paranormal, were you?
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[SPEAKER_03]: Oh, kind of interest you, is that like a part of your personality?
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[SPEAKER_01]: Yeah, I've always been interested, especially in the paranormal side of things.
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[SPEAKER_01]: I don't know why, like, I wouldn't say I was super into it.
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[SPEAKER_01]: You know, I wasn't seeking it or nothing back then when I was 12, but I always had that interest.
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[SPEAKER_01]: There was definitely something I've always kind of been into, but I'm not like a ghost hunter, I don't go out trying to find these things.
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[SPEAKER_03]: I was just kind of curious because I was wondering like that first encounter with your aunt if maybe if it had more to do with like her delving into the paranormal so deep or if you were also into it like
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[SPEAKER_03]: because you, it's almost like, the more I look into it, it's almost like contacting these, these things, whatever they may be, it has a lot to do with your intentions.
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[SPEAKER_03]: You know?
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[SPEAKER_03]: Right.
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[SPEAKER_02]: Yeah.
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[SPEAKER_03]: I don't necessarily know that they, like, I'm not saying that the intentions were evil or anything, but like, if you go into it, like wanting to contact something, you really, it happens.
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[SPEAKER_01]: Right.
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[SPEAKER_01]: That, I think, yeah, I wasn't, I wouldn't say I was super into it.
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[SPEAKER_01]: like try to contact spirits and stuff.
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[SPEAKER_01]: And I was a kid, but I've always been interested in it.
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[SPEAKER_01]: It always kind of got my curiosity.
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[SPEAKER_01]: So I guess I wanted the Ouija board to work, you know, because first time using it with her.
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[SPEAKER_01]: Oh yeah.
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[SPEAKER_03]: You know, the set of curiosity saved for nothing else, you know.
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[SPEAKER_01]: Right.
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[SPEAKER_01]: So I mean, kind of like the second time, I know we've messed around with it a few times in that apartment.
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[SPEAKER_01]: I don't remember if I was, I think it was before that event
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[SPEAKER_01]: But it was something like we were seriously trying to contact something.
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[SPEAKER_01]: We were in sitting down like, okay, we're going to contact something crazy.
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[SPEAKER_01]: You know, wasn't about that.
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[SPEAKER_01]: We were just, you know, stupid kids.
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[SPEAKER_01]: We didn't have internet back then.
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[SPEAKER_01]: So I just find stuff to amuse yourself.
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[SPEAKER_01]: And that's, it's a good time, you know.
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[SPEAKER_00]: Yeah.
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[SPEAKER_00]: Yeah.
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[SPEAKER_00]: I mean, I've done it too.
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[SPEAKER_00]: Yeah.
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[SPEAKER_00]: Steve, Steve, you ever used a Ouija word?
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[SPEAKER_00]: Like actually use it.
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[SPEAKER_03]: Yeah, a couple of times.
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[SPEAKER_00]: Isn't it all, since all of us have used it, isn't it?
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[SPEAKER_00]: The most bizarre feeling, having the plan chat take off on you.
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[SPEAKER_03]: Yeah, you immediately think you're feeling.
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[SPEAKER_03]: You immediately think someone else is doing it.
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[SPEAKER_03]: Yeah, exactly.
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[SPEAKER_03]: Because you know you're not alone, you know.
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[SPEAKER_01]: Yeah, yeah, that's why.
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[SPEAKER_01]: So if you think that's crazy, I guess you're crazy here, though.
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[SPEAKER_01]: So a couple years later, me and the one body that we're not using the Ouija board in his
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[SPEAKER_01]: We decided we're talking to another friend of yours in college and he didn't believe in the go with serve of any of us up, not real.
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[SPEAKER_01]: We'd you boards don't where nothing like that, you know.
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[SPEAKER_01]: We're like, okay, we'll bring the Ouija board up to where you are and we'll have a go at it and see what you think.
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[SPEAKER_01]: So we would drove over there and we decided to do an at night in a cemetery.
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[SPEAKER_01]: Nobody ever accused me of being a truck tonight when the drawer here is crazy.
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[SPEAKER_01]: It's crazy.
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[SPEAKER_01]: Yeah, that's crazy.
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[SPEAKER_01]: So we're, but it worked, I guess.
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[SPEAKER_01]: Is a believer now, that's just, we go as, so we go there, we set up.
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[SPEAKER_01]: I'll even remember where we set up.
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[SPEAKER_01]: It was probably sitting on some of your aid, but I don't, you know, what we start me, it was me and my buddy who didn't believe it all.
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[SPEAKER_01]: So we were the two Houstoners,
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[SPEAKER_01]: So we have some white so we can see what we're doing.
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[SPEAKER_01]: So we're using it and we did get someone that was kind of answering, you know, talking back a little bit and all the sudden it started getting very precise again.
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[SPEAKER_01]: The next time it warned us, it's like he's here.
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[SPEAKER_01]: I'm like, okay, let's go on ahead and said you have to leave or get out here.
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[SPEAKER_01]: It was something along that lines.
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[SPEAKER_01]: I'm like, who's here?
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[SPEAKER_01]: evil spelled out on the spot.
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[SPEAKER_01]: You know, like I said, it's so weird because I never really thought about the previous times that evil is popped up.
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[SPEAKER_01]: So I'm sure in my head, it was there.
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[SPEAKER_01]: But it's not like I was expecting evil to pop up on the Legion board again.
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[SPEAKER_01]: But this thing was telling us to run.
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[SPEAKER_01]: And this started spinning so fast in a circle.
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[SPEAKER_01]: Our hands came off.
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[SPEAKER_01]: And it made like two revolutions and shot off and hit the candle and knocked the candle off to me.
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[SPEAKER_01]: I'm like, yeah, I mean, if freak me out, I'm like, I'm sitting in my heart.
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[SPEAKER_01]: There's just pounding because like I said, I couldn't even keep up.
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[SPEAKER_01]: It was spinning.
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[SPEAKER_01]: I just lifted my hands and it shot off and hit the candle and like, it was a normal candle.
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[SPEAKER_01]: So enough power to knock that off.
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[SPEAKER_01]: I'm like, okay, of course,
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[SPEAKER_01]: My thought was, well, as light the candle again, and see what's really going on.
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[SPEAKER_01]: Put the candle back up, you know, I light it, and there's a happen to be a red candle.
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[SPEAKER_01]: Now there's red wax all over the Ouija board.
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[SPEAKER_01]: First, it looked like blood or something all I'm like, fuck this.
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[SPEAKER_01]: You know, we put the candle out, we grabbed our stuff and we, you know, took off out of there.
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[SPEAKER_01]: you're talking about that.
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[SPEAKER_01]: How crazy it is to have to take off.
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[SPEAKER_01]: But when you literally see it move, you know, like two revolutions and then launch off the Ouija board.
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[SPEAKER_01]: It's like, man, that freaking hell on that.
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[SPEAKER_03]: Assuming that it's the same entity contacting you like through through the years, it's so wild to me that it can like dial in whenever you open up like these lines of communication.
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[SPEAKER_01]: Right.
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[SPEAKER_01]: And they were all in different places, you know, different witty boards.
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[SPEAKER_00]: That's what I was going to ask.
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[SPEAKER_01]: Well, yeah, different than what my on had, the other two of times, last few times were the same one probably.
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[SPEAKER_03]: It makes me, it like brings up the question in my brain as to whether or not whatever this entity is can can hone in on whenever you open
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[SPEAKER_03]: I'll say this out loud and you're probably going to like me for it.
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[SPEAKER_03]: Or if it's just like with you all the time, whenever you open these lines of communications like, all right, here's my chance.
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[SPEAKER_03]: Let's get it.
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[SPEAKER_01]: Yeah.
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[SPEAKER_01]: I mean, that could be.
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[SPEAKER_00]: Did you have paranormal experiences outside of the Ouija board through these times?
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[SPEAKER_01]: You know, I've had small stuff.
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[SPEAKER_01]: I've heard little voices here and there, like whispers, but like one-offs, like nothing's ever
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[SPEAKER_01]: I never felt like I was in a haunted house.
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[SPEAKER_01]: The house I lived in or nothing.
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[SPEAKER_01]: So, like I said, we've had experiences.
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[SPEAKER_01]: I've definitely heard things.
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[SPEAKER_00]: But it just, it makes me feel like the way you've described this.
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[SPEAKER_00]: And I think it's an interesting thought.
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[SPEAKER_00]: It's almost like, and I don't know,
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[SPEAKER_00]: the explanation behind it per se, but I'll just I'll just say like what if what if whenever we open these lines of communication and for a lack of better descriptions, I'll use consciousness.
20:42
[SPEAKER_00]: What if our consciousness is a unique key to a unique door?
20:49
[SPEAKER_00]: Right.
20:49
[SPEAKER_00]: And maybe maybe evil, you know, this entity evil is behind said door.
20:55
[SPEAKER_00]: Like it knows it knows when you're unique, he is accessing this.
21:00
[SPEAKER_03]: It's too bad.
21:02
[SPEAKER_00]: Yeah.
21:04
[SPEAKER_00]: Yeah.
21:04
[SPEAKER_00]: Like he's like his consciousness or whatever, whatever we use to to make that connection, you know, it's like he's plugging into the outlet.
21:12
[SPEAKER_03]: And but he has a specific plugin, the only Brad has nobody else has that connection only he does and that's why Like it's it's so but on on top of that the second time like he wasn't using the Ouija board
21:29
[SPEAKER_03]: Oh, let's go point through now.
21:31
[SPEAKER_03]: Yes, because it came through and asked for him specifically, which is this, the scariest part.
21:39
[SPEAKER_04]: That's probably.
21:40
[SPEAKER_00]: I don't know.
21:41
[SPEAKER_00]: I thought I got chills whenever he's talking to homeboy on the Ouija board, and they go, oh, shitties here.
21:49
[SPEAKER_03]: Yeah.
21:49
[SPEAKER_03]: Oh, yeah.
21:50
[SPEAKER_01]: I was talking to someone else.
21:53
[SPEAKER_01]: They were warning me that it's here, and then I got to the end and said,
21:59
[SPEAKER_01]: And then it started going insane.
22:01
[SPEAKER_01]: I think it's the goose bumps again.
22:03
[SPEAKER_00]: Like just the thought of the whole thing is terrifying because it reminds me of a fucking, it fucks me up that whoever he was talking to, I'll just call him home boy.
22:15
[SPEAKER_00]: New, how to reference him to you.
22:18
[SPEAKER_01]: Right.
22:19
[SPEAKER_01]: Yeah.
22:21
[SPEAKER_00]: I feel like he was here and it just goes evil.
22:25
[SPEAKER_01]: And I tried doing research on anything like this evil actually tied to some kind of entity or something.
22:30
[SPEAKER_01]: I can't find anything out there or evils a specific.
22:34
[SPEAKER_01]: Right.
22:34
[SPEAKER_01]: Right.
22:35
[SPEAKER_03]: The first thing that I thought of, whenever it started referring to itself as evil, and it depends on how you think about these things, but if it's in like a demonic context, which a lot of people think, they waged boards or linked to demons, they got you out of it.
22:51
[SPEAKER_03]: But if you look into demonic possessions and things, they don't like to give their real names.
22:57
[SPEAKER_03]: because if someone speaks their real names, it gives them power over.
23:00
[SPEAKER_03]: I have control over them.
23:01
[SPEAKER_03]: So could this just be like some sort of moniker that it put out, puts out there, where it doesn't have to give its real name?
23:10
[SPEAKER_03]: Yeah.
23:11
[SPEAKER_03]: Right.
23:12
[SPEAKER_01]: Yeah.
23:13
[SPEAKER_01]: That's so strange that, yeah, it makes me wonder, do you know why is it?
23:18
[SPEAKER_01]: Yeah, it's not like I did anything.
23:20
[SPEAKER_01]: Yeah, I was a smart ass as a kid, but it's not like I, you know, try to
23:26
[SPEAKER_01]: get rid of it or you know what I mean I wasn't doing anything.
23:30
[SPEAKER_01]: Yeah, I wasn't that wasn't something on a Ouija word.
23:33
[SPEAKER_03]: If being a smart ass, uh, elicits demonization, then we're all right.
23:39
[SPEAKER_00]: Yeah.
23:39
[SPEAKER_00]: Well, and, and like, for me, I don't know like I just get this overall vibe from the way you talk and you, you're like, I don't feel like evil is tied to you.
23:51
[SPEAKER_00]: Right.
23:52
[SPEAKER_00]: Like, in the, in the, in the
23:56
[SPEAKER_00]: Oh, shit.
23:57
[SPEAKER_00]: Now you've got to tag along, you know, and it's a, it's attached to you and it falls you everywhere.
24:02
[SPEAKER_00]: I don't Like for me for some reason I cannot get the visual out of my head.
24:07
[SPEAKER_00]: Well, like like evil, like it's tied to you, but it's not like it's waiting on the, it's it's constantly waiting on the other side of the door.
24:17
[SPEAKER_00]: Walked back and put like in my head.
24:18
[SPEAKER_00]: This is what I see it pacing on the other side of the door.
24:21
[SPEAKER_00]: And every time you crack that door, it's there to answer.
24:25
[SPEAKER_01]: or ask for you.
24:27
[SPEAKER_01]: Yeah.
24:28
[SPEAKER_01]: There's one more part of the story too, is after all this, probably I'll attend 15 years later, 10 years for sure.
24:37
[SPEAKER_01]: I was laying me in my wife, where we had kids, just laying a bed, just bullshitting, right, in our house.
24:44
[SPEAKER_01]: And she was kind of asking about this whole story.
24:47
[SPEAKER_01]: So I was going through kind of gave her the, you know, synopsis of what happened
24:52
[SPEAKER_01]: and we're laying there.
24:53
[SPEAKER_01]: She's like, what'd you say as name was again?
24:55
[SPEAKER_01]: I said, he said his name was evil.
24:57
[SPEAKER_01]: Boom, power went out in house.
24:59
[SPEAKER_01]: And so I said that.
25:02
[SPEAKER_01]: I'm like, I'm frozen in bed.
25:05
[SPEAKER_01]: I'm like, you know, you don't just, it was the instant.
25:10
[SPEAKER_01]: I said his name, the power went out.
25:12
[SPEAKER_01]: So probably after like 30 seconds, I'm like, well, is it just our house or is it the whole neighborhood?
25:18
[SPEAKER_01]: So I get up, get to the window and power
25:22
[SPEAKER_01]: I don't know if it was our house.
25:24
[SPEAKER_01]: All right, the whole neighborhood.
25:25
[UNKNOWN]: Oh, God.
25:26
[SPEAKER_00]: That's very specific timing.
25:28
[SPEAKER_01]: Yeah.
25:29
[SPEAKER_01]: And I wasn't like 30 seconds later or something.
25:31
[SPEAKER_01]: It was instant.
25:33
[SPEAKER_01]: I said his name.
25:34
[SPEAKER_01]: Just how you know he's still there.
25:36
[SPEAKER_01]: Yeah, man, I had nothing to do with the Ouija board.
25:39
[SPEAKER_00]: So I was just, man, that's a weird one, man.
25:45
[SPEAKER_00]: It's a weird one.
25:45
[SPEAKER_00]: This one makes me feel different than a lot of ones we've covered.
25:49
[SPEAKER_00]: It's probably because we have real-life context like we have you here talking.
25:53
[SPEAKER_00]: I think that makes a difference, but I don't know if some reason I just don't get the vibe that it's like tethered.
26:00
[SPEAKER_01]: No, I don't think it follows like in the house we live in.
26:03
[SPEAKER_01]: I'll have never heard anything or seen anything, you know, in the old house we used to live in.
26:08
[SPEAKER_01]: It was like a hundred-year-old house.
26:11
[SPEAKER_01]: So there was a few instances that we hear like I hear whispering,
26:16
[SPEAKER_01]: and I assumed it was the wife watching TV just coming through the vents or something, like a lot there and there's no TV on, you know, something like that.
26:24
[SPEAKER_01]: But it wasn't like I didn't hear that same voices all the time or nothing.
26:28
[SPEAKER_01]: It was just weird things would happen, but but never felt haunted, you know, I never felt scared or nothing.
26:35
[SPEAKER_01]: So, in every sense that moment
26:43
[SPEAKER_03]: Was the, was the candle incident the last time you used the board?
26:46
[SPEAKER_01]: Yeah, yeah, I've never touched on a lady there.
26:50
[SPEAKER_03]: That wasn't enough.
26:51
[SPEAKER_03]: Yeah, so it is interesting that whatever, like whatever you were contacting that specific time, did seem to like fear, whatever the evil entity is, was like, oh shit, run.
27:09
[SPEAKER_01]: Yeah, it was something powerful coming through them, like he knew he was there.
27:14
[SPEAKER_00]: So was it an an powerful enough to make the plan chat just spend and jump on it's own right.
27:21
[SPEAKER_03]: I'm trying to think of what show we did.
27:25
[SPEAKER_03]: Was it Saturn?
27:26
[SPEAKER_03]: Was it was it in the cult of Saturn theCUBE?
27:29
[SPEAKER_03]: Where he was talking about, somebody was talking about the other entities like once it got into the presence of Saturn, they would all like bow before it.
27:45
[SPEAKER_03]: Am I making that up?
27:47
[SPEAKER_00]: No, that was Saturn.
27:48
[SPEAKER_00]: Yeah.
27:49
[SPEAKER_00]: It's not exact words,
27:54
[SPEAKER_00]: uh, another thing that was where I thought you was going, I don't know if really ties in or not, but Saturn would actually interject himself into, like if you were asking crazy legs for a favor and crazy legs wasn't exactly pulling it off or couldn't pull it off, Saturn would intercept that contract and take it upon himself and it would fulfill it.
28:17
[SPEAKER_00]: That's wild.
28:20
[SPEAKER_01]: Yeah.
28:24
[SPEAKER_01]: It's not something anybody ever talked to who's had a similar experience or nothing.
28:28
[SPEAKER_01]: And I still don't know why it would seek me out like that.
28:33
[SPEAKER_01]: And I've used the WG board a few times before that last time.
28:36
[SPEAKER_01]: You know, as my buddies, we've used it before.
28:37
[SPEAKER_01]: Never had them come through.
28:39
[SPEAKER_01]: But those were the times, like, you know, when it wanted to make its presence known, it didn't have a problem doing it.
28:48
[SPEAKER_03]: It is weird.
28:48
[SPEAKER_03]: I wouldn't.
28:50
[SPEAKER_03]: I'm assuming that your aunt had probably used the Ouija board prior to using it with you.
28:55
[SPEAKER_03]: Go ahead.
28:56
[SPEAKER_03]: I wonder if she'd ever encountered that spirit?
29:00
[SPEAKER_01]: I don't know.
29:00
[SPEAKER_01]: I've talked to her about it after that, you know, like, a couple of years ago before she passed.
29:06
[SPEAKER_01]: I talked to her about it.
29:08
[SPEAKER_01]: If she just, like, smiled and just feel like she was in like, she liked the story, but she didn't like elaborate at all.
29:20
[SPEAKER_01]: something that I didn't, or I don't know, it's just, it was weird to expect it heard to be like more inquisitive about it or ask questions and she just kind of, you know, it's not like she didn't believe me, but like she just kind of grinned and like
29:34
[SPEAKER_01]: She knew what I was talking about.
29:35
[SPEAKER_01]: I felt how I was saying that they were interesting.
29:37
[SPEAKER_00]: So made it sense because it's like a good thing here.
29:40
[SPEAKER_00]: Yeah.
29:40
[SPEAKER_00]: Yeah.
29:42
[SPEAKER_04]: Welcome aboard.
29:43
[SPEAKER_04]: Welcome aboard your buddy.
29:44
[SPEAKER_01]: Yeah.
29:45
[SPEAKER_01]: It's kind of what it was like.
29:46
[SPEAKER_01]: So that's so weird.
29:48
[SPEAKER_01]: Yeah.
29:49
[SPEAKER_01]: So I don't maybe it was something tied to her.
29:51
[SPEAKER_01]: And since I was on it with her, connected me.
29:54
[SPEAKER_01]: I mean, I kind of make sense.
29:57
[SPEAKER_01]: Yeah.
29:58
[SPEAKER_01]: I wouldn't rule that out.
30:00
[SPEAKER_01]: And I know she's, you know, dove into that stuff way more.
30:04
[SPEAKER_00]: I'm going to say it sounds like OG.
30:06
[SPEAKER_01]: Yeah, she talked about having out of body experiences and being thrown around like a tack, which she was out of her body, stuff like that, you know, so yeah, so maybe it was something connected to her, but I'm not using the Ouija board again to find out.
30:27
[SPEAKER_00]: I don't blame you there.
30:28
[SPEAKER_01]: I mean, a part of me kind of wants to do that.
30:31
[SPEAKER_03]: I'm not.
30:31
[SPEAKER_03]: Because I was kind of, I was kind of leading that way when I asked, like, you used the sense and you're like, no, I'm like, all right.
30:37
[SPEAKER_03]: Because I, I feel like there would be a part of me that would want to just to see, right?
30:43
[SPEAKER_03]: Jump back on it, just to see if he comes back through.
30:46
[SPEAKER_03]: Mm-hmm.
30:48
[SPEAKER_01]: They kind of mean that'd be great.
30:49
[SPEAKER_01]: That'd be good.
30:50
[SPEAKER_03]: Maybe you show that, you know?
30:52
[SPEAKER_03]: Count somebody else.
30:52
[SPEAKER_03]: I'm not sure.
30:53
[SPEAKER_03]: This is found somebody else to deal with.
30:55
[SPEAKER_03]: Yeah.
30:56
[SPEAKER_00]: So for me it would be like select I'm very selective person like some days I'd be like absolutely not no I'm one no part of it and then I could wake up the next thing be like yeah, let's get this smoke Right, let's just be a throttle.
31:11
[SPEAKER_00]: I'm weird like that
31:13
[SPEAKER_00]: I have I'm a roller coaster when it comes to that shit some days.
31:16
[SPEAKER_00]: I'm all in and some days.
31:17
[SPEAKER_03]: I'm like fuck this cause Kyle's like my Paranormal anchor like when I get in shit too deep.
31:24
[SPEAKER_03]: I'm like, okay.
31:25
[SPEAKER_03]: I'm gonna ask Kyle because I know Kyle will be like Hell no And that'll that'll draw me back in but so you you can't rely on that all the time No, because sometimes they'll throw you a wildcard.
31:35
[SPEAKER_03]: You feel like yeah, let's get it.
31:36
[SPEAKER_00]: No, I'm like Yeah, I'm it Not gonna build an altar Yeah
31:43
[SPEAKER_01]: I think if I can find someone that knew how to properly shut it down, then maybe.
31:49
[SPEAKER_03]: But yeah, because you didn't say when your buddies were using it, and it specifically asked like the fact that it asked for you and then it introduced like, you're like, well, who's it talking to?
31:59
[SPEAKER_03]: And I said evil again.
32:01
[SPEAKER_03]: And then instead of like closing the communication, there's like now we're done.
32:05
[SPEAKER_03]: Yeah.
32:05
[SPEAKER_03]: I'm just gonna push this over here.
32:07
[SPEAKER_01]: And that's all we have to get.
32:08
[SPEAKER_01]: Every time we use it, we were just lucky.
32:10
[SPEAKER_01]: We're done.
32:11
[SPEAKER_00]: So we never close that thing up properly.
32:13
[SPEAKER_00]: You know, I'm happy like most people do that.
32:16
[SPEAKER_03]: Yeah.
32:16
[SPEAKER_03]: Oh, yeah.
32:17
[SPEAKER_03]: Once she goes sideways, I feel like people are just like, give me out of here.
32:20
[SPEAKER_00]: Yeah.
32:21
[SPEAKER_01]: Yeah.
32:22
[SPEAKER_01]: Yeah.
32:23
[SPEAKER_01]: And I'm a pretty skeptical believer.
32:25
[SPEAKER_01]: You know, I believe a lot of stuff.
32:27
[SPEAKER_01]: I believe a lot of stuff can be, you know, justified as something else or whatever.
32:31
[SPEAKER_01]: But in that size to think, maybe the Ouija board,
32:35
[SPEAKER_01]: two, you know, your mind's pretty powerful thing, you know, that we can't tap into, but so how much are you not moving the plant shed, but actually it's similar vibrations or whatever kind of will in it, but when it was moving on its own, you know, and not the candle off, that wasn't me.
32:53
[SPEAKER_01]: Yeah.
32:54
[SPEAKER_01]: Yeah.
32:55
[SPEAKER_00]: So yeah, that's kind of like what I was getting at earlier, ballet, you feel in that plan chat, move the first time, because you know in your head, you're not the one moving it.
33:09
[SPEAKER_00]: Right.
33:09
[SPEAKER_00]: So like if me and Steve were moving it, your gut reaction by Steve were you moving this and Steve's like, no, I'm not moving this, are you moving this?
33:15
[SPEAKER_00]: And then you have that like blame game, like, one of us is fucking lying here.
33:22
[SPEAKER_00]: It says it's just such a weird feeling, I don't know you'll ever forget it because I've only I've been done it like twice, okay, and nothing crazy happened, but I did feel the plan to move and I'm like, this is fucking beard.
33:38
[SPEAKER_01]: Yeah, definitely it doesn't weird feeling, you know, you're trying to like, you're just barely touched it.
33:43
[SPEAKER_01]: So it's like slipping underneath you know, you know, keeping your fingers on this so weird.
33:47
[SPEAKER_03]: Oh, weird.
33:49
[SPEAKER_03]: have us looking up like just then why you guys were talking what like you were saying like how much are you subconsciously moving at which the the name for that is the idiom motor phenomenon where we're like you're you're moving it but you don't realize it but if like when I dove in to my Ouija board episodes here recently like the more I thought about it like if something is
34:15
[SPEAKER_03]: You're going to be moving it whether you know what or not, so it's almost like true.
34:22
[SPEAKER_03]: A lot of it is probably idiom motor phenomenon.
34:26
[SPEAKER_03]: It doesn't mean you're subconsciously doing it.
34:29
[SPEAKER_03]: If you yourself are like the channel and the board is just the means of communication.
34:38
[SPEAKER_03]: Right.
34:39
[SPEAKER_03]: It's hard to differentiate that from your subconscious.
34:43
[SPEAKER_01]: Right.
34:44
[SPEAKER_01]: Like I said, too, I mean, you could sometimes you've built that thing slipping under your fingers, you know, because it's on it, but it, so it's not like you're planted on it.
34:52
[SPEAKER_01]: Yeah.
34:53
[SPEAKER_00]: So, and you're right, like going into it with, I could that's the other thing going into with the expectations could skew the results of you trying to figure it out.
35:03
[SPEAKER_00]: Like if you, if you used it and talked to evil,
35:10
[SPEAKER_00]: And then you were going to use it again, even if you were thinking, I hope I don't talk to evil.
35:15
[SPEAKER_00]: It's still like you're brain is still making that connection with evil to whether it's subconsciously manifests on the board or you're drawing it to the board.
35:23
[SPEAKER_00]: One way or the other.
35:24
[SPEAKER_03]: Right, which what sets it apart is the, the second encounter words.
35:30
[SPEAKER_03]: Oh, yeah, you have anything to do with it and it asks for you.
35:34
[SPEAKER_03]: So the intent is coming from whatever's beyond the port.
35:39
[SPEAKER_03]: Right.
35:40
[SPEAKER_01]: It says that.
35:41
[SPEAKER_02]: I don't know where they're.
35:44
[SPEAKER_01]: I know at first, that's my first spot was there's room.
35:46
[SPEAKER_01]: If we went to said, you're asking for me.
35:48
[SPEAKER_01]: Oh, my God.
35:49
[SPEAKER_01]: Okay, who's he going to be it on me?
35:51
[SPEAKER_01]: And just some respect and then they have some smart ass answer.
35:55
[SPEAKER_01]: when they said evil, I was like, okay, that's not good.
36:00
[SPEAKER_03]: Because again, when I started diving into Ouija board communication and stuff, then I started getting into where people were contacting aliens and UFOs and big foot and I'm like, what?
36:18
[SPEAKER_03]: It's almost like a CE5 kind of like dialed in sort of tool to con, like, because I mean,
36:27
[SPEAKER_03]: the dead or spirits or demons like who's to say you can't contact anything that's out there you know what if it's what if it's some sort of gateway interdimensional gateway or something that's opened up because I don't think it really necessarily
36:43
[SPEAKER_03]: has to do with the board, as opposed to the intentions, people have when they use the board.
36:51
[SPEAKER_03]: People go into using a Ouija board wanting to contact something from beyond.
36:55
[SPEAKER_03]: You know, go into playing the Ouija board just to like move a plan to it around.
36:59
[SPEAKER_03]: You know, they want to talk to something that's not of this earth.
37:03
[SPEAKER_03]: So I feel like having all that intention kind of hyper-focused into one tool makes it pretty powerful.
37:11
[SPEAKER_03]: Yeah, contact spirits and contact the dead.
37:14
[SPEAKER_03]: You can probably contact anything else realistically.
37:16
[SPEAKER_01]: I've seen people use that to nothing happens.
37:21
[SPEAKER_01]: So I guess, you know, they're not.
37:23
[SPEAKER_03]: maybe hold in, but not, maybe it doesn't work them or maybe if they're skeptical, you know, maybe if they're like, this is a fucking joke, you know, have I feel like that probably has a lot to do with it too.
37:36
[SPEAKER_03]: Like if you get people in there that are just, or just haven't, I'm not necessarily no interest, so they wouldn't be doing it, but if they're there to prove that it's a joke,
37:45
[SPEAKER_03]: I almost feel like whatever the phenomena is can probably read into that and sometimes it might, you know, spike off to prove moron and other times it might not want anything to do with it, you know, right.
37:57
[SPEAKER_01]: Yeah, because like it's a grave, my buddy is complete skeptical doesn't where it goes aren't real and it's true turned up.
38:04
[SPEAKER_01]: Yeah.
38:06
[SPEAKER_01]: You know, I think you some believe right now.
38:10
[SPEAKER_00]: So I mean, I definitely would be and it doesn't make sense that you're saying being able to contact anything like on a rudimentary level the Ouija board in the plant shed are very very rudimentary.
38:25
[SPEAKER_00]: They're very simple.
38:26
[SPEAKER_00]: It gets a very simple.
38:27
[SPEAKER_00]: It's not hard for us to understand where as you know, in other cases when people are on ghost hunting stuff, where a lot of times they're asking for
38:36
[SPEAKER_00]: Open communication, like talk to me, which usually is caught on the recorder, what have you, or knocks or anything.
38:45
[SPEAKER_00]: But it's hard to explain, but in my head,
38:50
[SPEAKER_00]: It's like we don't, the normal person wouldn't even be able to begin to fathom like the physics behind all, like we like in your brain, you don't understand what how are they knocking on this, but in the in the form of the Ouija board, it's so simple.
39:05
[SPEAKER_00]: It's so well, you have to do his move this to A, right?
39:09
[SPEAKER_00]: Like I don't know if they really make sense or not, but in my head, it does like it just seems so simple that it's easier for us to put
39:18
[SPEAKER_00]: and kind of supercharge it for the other side to start manipulating that.
39:24
[SPEAKER_00]: And we are welcoming, essentially, I guess that's how that works.
39:29
[SPEAKER_00]: You may be welcoming one into yourself too.
39:32
[SPEAKER_00]: And if you manipulate you,
39:34
[SPEAKER_00]: emancipating the board.
39:36
[SPEAKER_03]: Yeah, because like with electronic phenomena, you know, if you you watch any of any of the ghost hunters, they're like, use this device to communicate with us, whereas a Ouija board, like, essentially we are the device.
39:55
[SPEAKER_03]: Right, it used me being used for commuting.
39:58
[SPEAKER_00]: Talk to people.
40:00
[SPEAKER_00]: That's one of them cases where specification might be key.
40:05
[SPEAKER_00]: Yeah, no, no, no.
40:06
[SPEAKER_00]: Even using the Ouija board bailing.
40:07
[SPEAKER_00]: Hey, you can use this.
40:10
[SPEAKER_00]: That's guy right here.
40:12
[SPEAKER_01]: Right.
40:12
[SPEAKER_01]: Yeah.
40:13
[SPEAKER_01]: Yeah, it's, it's a strange thing.
40:16
[SPEAKER_01]: I don't know.
40:17
[SPEAKER_01]: I think there's too much to it for us to really understand how it actually works.
40:21
[SPEAKER_01]: I'm with you.
40:21
[SPEAKER_01]: You know, I don't.
40:23
[SPEAKER_01]: like I said, it might not even be just talking to dead people, you know, and I think there's more to it than that, you know, like you're just, it could be just, but you said device opening up through a different dimension to come through and, you know, who knows what's all out there?
40:41
[SPEAKER_01]: I don't know.
40:42
[SPEAKER_03]: And a lot of times, I feel like people go into it like kind of like a scatter shot, you know, they're not necessarily specific about wanting to contact, you know, a dead loved one or something.
40:56
[SPEAKER_03]: They're just kind of just kind of just kind of sending out a, hey, who's out there?
41:01
[SPEAKER_03]: Does anybody want to talk, you know, and I feel like if,
41:05
[SPEAKER_03]: You're just screaming into the void.
41:06
[SPEAKER_03]: It doesn't necessarily have to be a spirit that wants to talk, you know, you can be wide buffet of anything from the phenomena that's this listening, right?
41:20
[SPEAKER_03]: It's like, okay, just makes things my team.
41:23
[SPEAKER_00]: And then we're like, like, like, you talk about the evil or demonic,
41:30
[SPEAKER_00]: Shit, and I'm like, yeah, fuck a Ouija board, but you you throw that side of the net out where you're like, I mean, it could be fucking an international being Just trying to like that that right there interests the fuck out of me where I'm like hell, yeah, let's have conversation.
41:45
[SPEAKER_00]: Oh, yeah, but it's just what they for some reason when that stigma of evil.
41:49
[SPEAKER_03]: Right.
41:51
[SPEAKER_00]: It sets up a barrier where you're like, why are you trying to talk to them this asshole?
41:55
[SPEAKER_00]: I don't want to be ripped apart.
41:57
[SPEAKER_00]: I don't want to, you know, I'm not.
41:59
[SPEAKER_00]: I'm not trying to be possessed.
42:02
[SPEAKER_00]: You want to have a conversation, we have a conversation.
42:05
[SPEAKER_00]: I don't want this negativity in my life, sir.
42:09
[SPEAKER_01]: Yeah, maybe it was an air dimensional being and they just,
42:14
[SPEAKER_01]: knew you would recognize evil or something as a name as a spirit.
42:18
[SPEAKER_00]: And then that's another good point where we're, I mean, because we're so curious about that, and we are so non-knowledgeable, it would not take anything at all to manipulate the fuck out of us.
42:32
[SPEAKER_03]: Oh, yeah, absolutely.
42:33
[SPEAKER_03]: In the last, last, what, 50 years,
42:40
[SPEAKER_03]: Yeah, people look at them and they immediately think that's a tool of the devil Right, you know and When they first they weren't winning in your episode when they first came out they weren't no people were using them just like like they came home from church on a Sunday eat dinner And then they'd all sit around the talking board and see see who they could talk to see if they could talk to you Look dead uncle they enter some shit like it wasn't taboo for the most part until the exercise came out
43:10
[SPEAKER_03]: And then that, along with media, spun such a negative light that it just, like in the late 50s, maybe the early 60s, the Wijibord outsold monopoly, as a family game, like that's crazy.
43:35
[SPEAKER_01]: Yeah, you know, like you said, do I think it's the intention behind it?
43:39
[SPEAKER_01]: You know, I'm sure those people like go on there to talk the demons and all the stuff that people, you know, I mean, but every time I use it, it was more curiosity.
43:49
[SPEAKER_03]: I was trying to seek something which brings which just hatched another weird quitter a weird thought because last question in my head.
43:56
[SPEAKER_03]: Especially with the the time when your friends were using it and you weren't there does the intention of what's on the opposite side of the board
44:10
[SPEAKER_03]: because you were just hanging out and having any intention on communicating with anything.
44:14
[SPEAKER_03]: You were just chilling with your buddies.
44:16
[SPEAKER_03]: Yeah.
44:16
[SPEAKER_03]: When what was on the other side of the board had an intention to want to talk to you.
44:21
[SPEAKER_03]: Right.
44:22
[SPEAKER_03]: Especially if you go, I wonder if it is like a tug-of-war kind of thing.
44:26
[SPEAKER_03]: Like because if you go into it without any intention does something with intention on the other side, kind of take precedence at that because like,
44:36
[SPEAKER_03]: If you're on this side and you're like, I'm just curious.
44:39
[SPEAKER_03]: I just want to see if we can get anything.
44:41
[SPEAKER_03]: If there's something on the other side that really has something to say, that it's almost like an open channel for it to come in and be like, hey, right.
44:49
[SPEAKER_03]: I'm evil.
44:50
[SPEAKER_03]: What's up?
44:51
[SPEAKER_01]: Yeah, I'm going to expose if you have just going in at a curiosity and whatever's on that other side.
44:57
[SPEAKER_01]: has been very cool.
44:58
[SPEAKER_04]: Yeah.
44:59
[SPEAKER_01]: Yeah.
45:00
[UNKNOWN]: It's weird.
45:00
[SPEAKER_00]: So that's a shitty thought.
45:02
[SPEAKER_04]: It's weird.
45:03
[SPEAKER_00]: I'm weird.
45:04
[SPEAKER_00]: Yeah.
45:04
[SPEAKER_00]: That's a shitty thought.
45:06
[SPEAKER_00]: Yeah.
45:06
[SPEAKER_00]: I don't like that thought.
45:07
[SPEAKER_03]: That it has, it has the power.
45:09
[SPEAKER_03]: Like, because I mean, it's just that that second encounter is like,
45:15
[SPEAKER_03]: It's like the curve ball right because there there was no intention.
45:19
[SPEAKER_03]: You weren't using the board something came through Specifically for you.
45:25
[SPEAKER_01]: Yeah, I knew I was there.
45:26
[SPEAKER_01]: What's his career?
45:27
[SPEAKER_04]: Oh, yeah, I knew you were there.
45:29
[SPEAKER_04]: Yeah, gross.
45:30
[SPEAKER_01]: Yeah So I mean, I'll even know why like I said That will nothing ever stood out like it wanted me to do something in order It was mad at me for some reason
45:41
[SPEAKER_01]: It was just there, I remember it was always super aggressive, but I don't remember anything specific, telling me to do something or why, it's after me or whatever.
45:52
[SPEAKER_03]: Almost like it just wanted to make sure it had your attention, probably, like what it feels like to me.
45:59
[SPEAKER_03]: Yeah, an interdimensional fan.
46:02
[SPEAKER_03]: I didn't get a soccer or something.
46:04
[SPEAKER_00]: Yeah, well, it sounds like a good point.
46:07
[SPEAKER_00]: A good point, Steve, because if you rewind the episode here, every time you use the Ouija board and you would tell us a new iteration of the story, you always said I never went into it thinking about evil.
46:25
[SPEAKER_01]: Yeah.
46:26
[SPEAKER_00]: And that's what that's when evil goes.
46:29
[SPEAKER_00]: Hey motherfucker.
46:30
[SPEAKER_01]: You better be thinking.
46:31
[SPEAKER_00]: I'm here.
46:32
[SPEAKER_01]: You better be thinking about it.
46:34
[SPEAKER_01]: Maybe that was all it is, Mary's legal thing or something.
46:37
[SPEAKER_01]: But it's kind of weird.
46:39
[SPEAKER_01]: I found it weird looking back on it that I never, I never thought about the previous experience.
46:45
[SPEAKER_01]: Even though it's happened even after a couple of times, like why wouldn't I be expecting this at some point?
46:51
[SPEAKER_00]: Yeah, it's super like I remember thinking that too like going up through your story when you were saying it because you're like I never I didn't what didn't Think in about it and in my head I was like how the fuck do you not Yeah, like how do you not really like right I would go into it being like please don't end like like last time Kind of fucking talk to this guy people just chill out today Yeah, I find it strange.
47:15
[SPEAKER_01]: I don't know why that's the case.
47:16
[SPEAKER_01]: Yeah, you know
47:19
[SPEAKER_01]: subconsciously, maybe I'm blocking it out.
47:21
[SPEAKER_00]: But I guess I don't like it and I'm not, I'm not like trying to paint a picture.
47:27
[SPEAKER_00]: But I think my I keep getting drawn to the idea that maybe your ant did something to help protect you.
47:34
[SPEAKER_01]: Hmm.
47:35
[SPEAKER_01]: Oh, yeah, maybe that's why she always said that little grin on your face.
47:38
[SPEAKER_00]: You know, I don't like it.
47:40
[SPEAKER_00]: Because you said she knew how to properly close it, which I would I would assume that someone like that,
47:47
[SPEAKER_00]: could do, you know, type things like that to help protect you from, because you like when you guys were together, you were uh, you were kind of pushing the envelope for sure.
47:56
[SPEAKER_00]: Yeah.
47:57
[SPEAKER_00]: Yeah.
47:57
[SPEAKER_00]: She might have been like shit.
47:58
[SPEAKER_00]: I need the, I need to do a little thing, a little some little shit here to make you, you know, make make sense.
48:04
[SPEAKER_00]: I don't want him to get fucked up.
48:06
[SPEAKER_01]: Right.
48:07
[SPEAKER_01]: Yeah.
48:07
[SPEAKER_00]: Maybe.
48:07
[SPEAKER_03]: I don't know.
48:10
[SPEAKER_03]: I also kind of felt that way now that Kyle brought it up when when you asked her about it and she was just kind of like, we're not
48:17
[SPEAKER_01]: Yeah, that's how I found it strange because I expected a full-on conversation about it with her.
48:22
[SPEAKER_01]: Yeah, she's almost threatened and let it go.
48:24
[SPEAKER_03]: It's almost like she just, she just didn't want you looking into it.
48:27
[SPEAKER_03]: Like don't worry about it.
48:29
[SPEAKER_03]: I didn't care of it.
48:30
[SPEAKER_03]: Don't worry about it.
48:32
[SPEAKER_01]: Yeah, I didn't even think of that.
48:34
[SPEAKER_01]: That makes sense too.
48:35
[SPEAKER_03]: It doesn't look weird.
48:38
[SPEAKER_03]: It's part of my, my curious side would be like,
48:45
[SPEAKER_03]: I want to go back in.
48:46
[SPEAKER_03]: I want to go in with the intent of contacting it just to see what it has to say because I mean, obviously, it's got something to say, you know,
49:09
[SPEAKER_03]: Yeah, I'm not going to advise that and then I get a chance I finally get I finally get in contact with him I get excited and the planchef lies out the board and everybody's here Yeah, I don't I don't think I don't think that's yeah, don't take my advice.
49:32
[SPEAKER_01]: Don't take these advice Yeah, I don't know and nothing bad ever happened
49:38
[SPEAKER_01]: So besides the power of the house and the talking I'm just like, but it's hard to me, like, then almost feels like a reminder like I'm I'm here.
49:47
[SPEAKER_00]: Yeah, still, yeah, we're still talking about it.
49:50
[SPEAKER_00]: So it's so weird.
49:51
[SPEAKER_03]: I just I was just curious as to like,
49:55
[SPEAKER_03]: I wish I like a part of me, which is that you could remember like what some of the other things that we're trying to say when it was like being aggressive like what message was it trying to get out Also something I want to put out there that I probably shouldn't
50:09
[SPEAKER_03]: I wonder if Kyle's shaking his head because he knows where I'm going with this.
50:16
[SPEAKER_00]: I know.
50:16
[SPEAKER_00]: I just figure it's not good.
50:18
[SPEAKER_03]: If things are going to take up now that you're like talking about it, like you're like openly acknowledging it and talking about it.
50:27
[SPEAKER_03]: Because we've had people, we've had people on the show before that have had past experiences that have chilled out.
50:35
[SPEAKER_03]: And after they came on the show, they're like, guess what started again?
50:39
[SPEAKER_03]: Right, I'm like, well, we're not responsible for that.
50:44
[SPEAKER_03]: Yeah, it was a choice to come on here, you know, I don't know.
50:48
[SPEAKER_01]: It doesn't worry me too much.
50:50
[SPEAKER_01]: I don't think it's like it's not stuff never really happens.
50:53
[SPEAKER_01]: Like I was haunted or something was messing with me.
50:57
[SPEAKER_01]: Yes, I would have will experiences, but those are.
51:00
[SPEAKER_03]: I don't think really do it at all and I mean just from from the experience like the interaction point itself with you, there isn't necessarily anything really nefarious like obviously it calling itself evil.
51:15
[SPEAKER_03]: is kind of nefarious but like on like if you were kind of you were also contacting other spirits at that time was it calling itself evil or was it some other some other thing you were in contact with calling it evil you know so it's hard to kind of like dial it in necessarily
51:33
[SPEAKER_03]: is like on that second time when your buddies were using it like it's it's seemed like what's it the second time or the third time I don't know whichever time you were contacting something else in the board and when it was coming in like okay here it comes and they're like who is it it's evil yeah third time my bad
51:50
[SPEAKER_03]: That was in the cemetery, so that was, that was so stupid, but I just, I just feel like it was for ambiance sake, you know, where else, where, what better place can you use a Ouija board in the middle of the night, I think Brad had a divv Steven, I was on a cavestone in the middle of a cemetery, candles lit, you know,
52:14
[SPEAKER_00]: Yeah, not the wisest.
52:15
[SPEAKER_03]: It's on beyond.
52:16
[SPEAKER_01]: Right.
52:17
[SPEAKER_01]: That's, you know, I said the move.
52:18
[SPEAKER_01]: No, one on one to go.
52:19
[SPEAKER_04]: See, you know, I said in the evil mood.
52:22
[SPEAKER_01]: I remember that thing when I lit it back up in that red wax everywhere, like not.
52:28
[SPEAKER_04]: Yeah.
52:28
[SPEAKER_04]: We're done.
52:29
[SPEAKER_01]: I'm looking for a book in it.
52:32
[SPEAKER_00]: Yeah, I just, I don't know.
52:34
[SPEAKER_00]: It's a, it's a, it's a fucking bizarre case.
52:37
[SPEAKER_00]: It really makes you brain spin around circles.
52:40
[SPEAKER_01]: Yeah, that is just this curious, I mean, why do they keep contact me, but it didn't really do anything else.
52:47
[SPEAKER_01]: So maybe it wasn't evil in our sense, maybe it was just a rudimentary.
52:53
[SPEAKER_01]: term it called itself.
52:54
[SPEAKER_00]: I don't know could be.
52:56
[SPEAKER_00]: I mean, and now that I think about it, you know, the steeper of the point of people coming on a show and talking about it and it's sparking things.
53:03
[SPEAKER_00]: I've never had that happen.
53:04
[SPEAKER_00]: I've talked about my experiences openly.
53:07
[SPEAKER_00]: And I'm sure to this day, I'll still have random little one-offs that happen through the house.
53:13
[SPEAKER_00]: And like the other day, Steve, when I see that video of the thing rolling on me, the paper rolling on me and stuff,
53:23
[SPEAKER_00]: And we're talking about it.
53:24
[SPEAKER_00]: I talked about it on the show and I haven't had fuck all happened since.
53:29
[SPEAKER_00]: You know, so I don't I don't know.
53:34
[SPEAKER_00]: So we're so weird.
53:35
[SPEAKER_00]: It's so weird out to different across the board.
53:37
[SPEAKER_03]: I keep going back to like.
53:41
[SPEAKER_03]: if it was some sort of demonic entity, which we don't have any reason to believe that it was, but just weegy boards are synonymous with contacting demons, you know?
53:51
[SPEAKER_03]: Like if it was a demonic entity and it wanted to hide itself as a demonic entity,
54:00
[SPEAKER_03]: The name evil probably wouldn't be the best choice.
54:04
[SPEAKER_01]: Right, probably like Teddy or something.
54:06
[SPEAKER_03]: Yeah, you're kind of low in your cover.
54:08
[SPEAKER_03]: You're like a lot of demon.
54:09
[SPEAKER_03]: I'm just evil.
54:13
[SPEAKER_03]: It is.
54:13
[SPEAKER_03]: I wonder how many.
54:15
[SPEAKER_03]: I know there are cases, but it's probably more prominent than I think, it's just really interesting being able to sit with somebody and talk to somebody who had contact with this, what we believe is the same entity over a span of years, and I was just wondering what, I wonder what the percentage of people contacting the same entity, because, um,
54:39
[SPEAKER_03]: man, who was it?
54:40
[SPEAKER_03]: There was some woman who who had contacted the same entity.
54:44
[SPEAKER_03]: I believe his name was me.
54:45
[SPEAKER_03]: It might have been Philip, but she had contacted the same entity for years and years and years to the point where she was like writing a journal about it and all sorts of stuff like that.
54:55
[SPEAKER_03]: Like just with the communication between her and the entity and I touched on it on that on those weedy board episodes, there are people who have written pieces of literature,
55:06
[SPEAKER_03]: that have become famous just via the spirit that we're talking to on the Ouija board and there were people that have claimed to have communicated with famous composers and composed pieces of music via the Ouija board, like unfinished pieces and unwritten pieces.
55:26
[SPEAKER_03]: So I guess it is more common than I think,
55:29
[SPEAKER_03]: But just the fact that like we got you here and you're like, man, this is come through multiple times over, you know, a span of Yeah, probably what from anywhere.
55:39
[SPEAKER_03]: Well, yeah, decades.
55:40
[SPEAKER_03]: Yeah, wild.
55:42
[SPEAKER_01]: Yeah, so Yeah, I don't know.
55:46
[SPEAKER_01]: I guess that haven't had a whole lot of happen since so hopefully I don't look.
55:49
[SPEAKER_04]: Yeah.
55:50
[SPEAKER_03]: Yeah, but I don't think it'll spark up.
55:53
[SPEAKER_03]: It's just, I too worried about it.
55:55
[SPEAKER_03]: It's just an interesting story, man.
55:58
[SPEAKER_01]: It is.
55:58
[SPEAKER_01]: I'm super curious that like, if I were to try that again, to see if it would come through.
56:04
[SPEAKER_00]: So it's like, job Steve, good job.
56:07
[SPEAKER_03]: I'm not responsible for this.
56:09
[SPEAKER_03]: We'll have friends after we go off the air.
56:11
[SPEAKER_03]: Get his wheels dirty.
56:13
[SPEAKER_00]: It would be for most of these Steve trying to stoke the member.
56:17
[SPEAKER_03]: Come on.
56:18
[SPEAKER_03]: Yeah.
56:18
[SPEAKER_03]: Now, and that makes me wonder, like, if I have on one of these Ouija boards, if it's like, hey, heard you were talking about, man.
56:26
[SPEAKER_00]: Like, damn, that would fucking me up.
56:29
[SPEAKER_00]: Yeah.
56:29
[SPEAKER_00]: It's like, I'm like, all right, we're dealing with something here.
56:35
[SPEAKER_03]: Oh, man, that was, that was awesome.
56:38
[SPEAKER_01]: Yeah, yeah, I just figured there's a lot easier than trying to write it all out because of you.
56:42
[SPEAKER_01]: Oh, absolutely.
56:43
[SPEAKER_01]: There's a lot of things to stuff.
56:44
[SPEAKER_01]: So yeah.
56:45
[SPEAKER_03]: And I feel like there's like a way more realism hearing it firsthand.
56:55
[SPEAKER_03]: Like I love the people take the time to send us their stories in, but like it's still just me reading it.
57:00
[SPEAKER_03]: So like the
57:02
[SPEAKER_03]: I wasn't there.
57:02
[SPEAKER_03]: I didn't get to feel what people felt.
57:04
[SPEAKER_03]: I didn't get to see what people saw.
57:06
[SPEAKER_03]: So there's a pretty good disconnect there from an actual experience to me telling the experience.
57:14
[SPEAKER_03]: So being able to have people on here and
57:17
[SPEAKER_03]: share it, like from their point of view, I feel like it's infinitely better than just me reading it.
57:24
[SPEAKER_01]: Yeah, yeah, as it's way easier to explain stuff to when you can talk it out a little bit.
57:31
[SPEAKER_03]: Yeah, we can ask questions like, yeah, there's tons of times when I do listener experience episodes and me and Kyle have like,
57:36
[SPEAKER_03]: a list of like five to 10 questions that sometimes we don't even hear back from the people at that point because like a lot of the encounters are a couple of years old by now but having someone here real time, you can kind of like pick their brain a little bit and it's just nice.
57:53
[SPEAKER_01]: I wish I would get track more of the things that we'll see in during each time.
57:59
[SPEAKER_01]: Yeah.
58:01
[SPEAKER_01]: old age to get you.
58:02
[SPEAKER_00]: Yeah, I feel that.
58:04
[SPEAKER_00]: Yeah, sometimes that shoots for the best, too, though.
58:06
[SPEAKER_00]: Yeah, and maybe it blocked it though.
58:08
[SPEAKER_03]: It was just keeping you a little reminders of the lights flickin' off on every size name.
58:11
[SPEAKER_01]: Yeah.
58:13
[SPEAKER_01]: I was waiting story on work report, hoping that would be well.
58:18
[SPEAKER_01]: Yeah.
58:18
[SPEAKER_01]: Yeah.
58:18
[SPEAKER_02]: He will do me a solid rope.
58:20
[SPEAKER_02]: Yeah.
58:23
[SPEAKER_03]: I was waiting for like when you said it's name for like your lights to go off in the background.
58:27
[SPEAKER_03]: Oh, shit.
58:27
[SPEAKER_03]: I'm like, oh, here we go.
58:29
[SPEAKER_01]: Yeah, so that's that's pretty wild, but I'm glad you guys had me on it's one to talk about it.
58:36
[SPEAKER_01]: Yeah, absolutely, man.
58:37
[SPEAKER_03]: We're glad you took the time to come and hang out with us.
58:39
[SPEAKER_03]: Yeah, I want to dig in to see if there's any entity that specifically refers to itself.
58:46
[SPEAKER_01]: Yeah, the finding thing out.
58:47
[SPEAKER_01]: Let me know because I tried doing research and I can't really find any specific entity that would refer to itself as evil.
58:54
[SPEAKER_03]: I'll take it around.
58:55
[SPEAKER_03]: And I'm sure when the Holocaust hears that, we've got some knowledgeable people in the spiritual spirituality, spiritualism around it.
59:04
[SPEAKER_03]: We probably have some input going to reach out.
59:07
[SPEAKER_03]: So I'm excited for when this drops.
59:09
[SPEAKER_01]: Yeah.
59:10
[SPEAKER_01]: It would have to be a very primitive spirit or something before all the other spirits started, you know, having names and I don't know.
59:19
[SPEAKER_01]: But I don't think it was anything crazy.
59:26
[SPEAKER_04]: It's weird that it has such an interest in you.
59:29
[SPEAKER_00]: Yeah.
59:29
[SPEAKER_04]: Yeah.
59:31
[SPEAKER_04]: Mm-hmm.
59:31
[SPEAKER_04]: Not a great thing there is.
59:32
[SPEAKER_04]: The chosen one.
59:34
[SPEAKER_04]: Oh, about that.
59:35
[SPEAKER_03]: That was just smart as good.
59:41
[SPEAKER_03]: Yeah.
59:42
[SPEAKER_03]: Oh, that was awesome.
59:43
[SPEAKER_03]: Again, thank you for coming on and to chat with us today.
59:46
[SPEAKER_03]: absolutely appreciate it and uh on that note we're gonna wrap it up polo cult again if uh listen into brads and counters sparked any thing in your memory of you possibly uh contacting some of the similar hit us up she'll just shoot us an email she'll just a DM well let us know or if it's if it's if you think you know
1:00:11
[SPEAKER_03]: Possibly of an it's either refers to itself as such.
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[SPEAKER_03]: It is up the M. us email us let us know Again, thanks for hanging out with us this week.
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[SPEAKER_03]: We appreciate you.
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