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Missing Mom Suzanne Morphew Hunted With Dart Gun? · Crime Stories with Nancy Grace

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Speaker 1: Crime Stories with Nancy Grace, legal battle rages on in
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Speaker 1: a court of law where we are finally hearing some
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Speaker 1: a tiny bit of the evidence against husband Barry Morphew
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Speaker 1: in the disappearance of his gorgeous wife, Suzanne Morphew, the
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Speaker 1: mother of his two daughters. We're learning all about his
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Speaker 1: visits to Ashley Madison. You know, for married cheaters to
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Speaker 1: go have sex, celebrity jihad sex sights. But where does
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Speaker 1: the missing mom fit into this scenario? And how does
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Speaker 1: a dark gun factor in crime Stories? With Nancy Grace,
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Speaker 1: I'm learning more about Barry Moore few than I ever
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Speaker 1: wanted to know. I mean, Nancy Grace, this is Crime Stories.
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Speaker 1: Thank you for being with us here at Fox Nation
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Speaker 1: and Serious one eleven. But it's details like celebrity jihad
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Speaker 1: where allegedly jihadests post pictures of naked celebrities. I think
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Speaker 1: I've got that right. It could be completely bass ackwards,
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Speaker 1: a dark gun, a fake job site amidst Mother's Day celebration.
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Speaker 1: I mean, how are we going to prove a murder
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Speaker 1: with nobody? First of all, you've got to hear what
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Speaker 1: is happening in the courtroom. Now, why the state the
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Speaker 1: prosecutors decided to have a preliminary hearing. I don't know.
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Speaker 1: That's a legal conundrum. A preliminary hearing is held, for instance,
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Speaker 1: when you need to have a case bound over for trial.
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Speaker 1: But you could just go to the grand jury, a
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Speaker 1: secret grand jury, as they are all secret, present one
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Speaker 1: or two witnesses and get a bill of indictment from murder.
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Speaker 1: But with a prelium, you put your witnesses on parade
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Speaker 1: and the defense gets a dry run on cross examination.
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Speaker 1: It's like playing poker and just laying all your cards
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Speaker 1: on the table. That's a bad idea. That said, what
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Speaker 1: have we learned? Take a listen to Mark Salinger nine
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Speaker 1: News Denver. We're hearing details about the days, hours and
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Speaker 1: minutes leading up to May nine, twenty twenty, which is
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Speaker 1: the last day that the FBI says that they knew
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Speaker 1: that Susanne Moorephew was still alive. It's all focusing the
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Speaker 1: Morphew home just outside of Salida. Now. The FBI investigator
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Speaker 1: today testified that Susanne Morphew was at home sunbathing and
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Speaker 1: sending pictures of herself to her boyfriend while her husband, Barry,
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Speaker 1: was out of the home. That afternoon, when Barry came home,
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Speaker 1: Susanne stopped responding to his messages. An investigator testified that
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Speaker 1: he wrote in an affidavit that he believed Barry was
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Speaker 1: chasing Susanne around the home when he returned. That's based
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Speaker 1: on cell phone GPS data. Defense attorneys have said that
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Speaker 1: that data may not be accurate. The defense says the
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Speaker 1: data may not be accurate. Right, who am I going
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Speaker 1: to believe Barry Morphew and his paid hired gun the
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Speaker 1: defense lawyer or GPS data chasing her around the home
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Speaker 1: with me an all star panel? Nicole Devoor hots Globe
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Speaker 1: criminal defense attorney out of Houston, former prosecutor and you
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Speaker 1: can find her at Houston Criminal Defense dot com. Doctor
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Speaker 1: Jory Krausen, psychologist, faculty, Saint Leo University, author of Operations.
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Speaker 1: Dan Corsentino joining US, former police chief in Colorado, former
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Speaker 1: sheriff and serve at the US Homeland Security. You can
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Speaker 1: find him at Dan Corsentino dot com. Death investigator, forensics
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Speaker 1: expert Joe Scott Morgan, Professor Forensics, Jacksonville State University. Author
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Speaker 1: of Blood Beneath My Feet on Amazon. Laurence Sharp joining
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Speaker 1: US has been in the courtroom. Coincidentally, family members tell
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Speaker 1: Lauren Sharf from Fox twenty one News, you ruined our lives.
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Speaker 1: I guess they think you've got Suzanne Morphew and your basement.
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Speaker 1: Lauren Sharf, I don't think you're the one that ruined
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Speaker 1: their lives. And Spencer Courson, founder president of Course and
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Speaker 1: Security Group at Course in Security Group dot com and
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Speaker 1: author of The Safety Trap. First of all, to you,
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Speaker 1: Lauren Sharff. Let's talk about the theory that Barry Morphu
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Speaker 1: comes home, he finds his wife Susanne morph You now
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Speaker 1: missing body, never found subbathing in the backyard, and suddenly
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Speaker 1: his GPS shows then running around the house. What GPS on?
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Speaker 1: What on his cell phone? Explain? Yeah, So in the
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Speaker 1: court they showed multiple maps of where supposedly Barry Morphu's
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Speaker 1: phone pings, and the defense was like, there's no way
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Speaker 1: he could have been, you know, running through walls and
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Speaker 1: going through and running at forty five miles per hour.
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Speaker 1: You know. They said that his phone pinged all around
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Speaker 1: the home. And I think this was really interesting. The
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Speaker 1: FBI agent that took the stand, agent Johnny Grusing, he
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Speaker 1: said that supposedly his theory is that he was chasing
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Speaker 1: sus Susann around the home while she was conscious. And
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Speaker 1: I think the conscious part is really important because they
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Speaker 1: mentioned a cap to a tranquilizer dart that they found
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Speaker 1: in the dryer. So that's not something that happens in
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Speaker 1: everyday routine life you find part of a tranquilizer gun
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Speaker 1: in your washer and dryer. Guys, take a listen to
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Speaker 1: our friends at Fox twenty one, I mean ninth Agent
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Speaker 1: Grusing said Susanne sent a picture of her sunbathing to
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Speaker 1: her lover, Jeff Libbler around two pm. Her daughters were
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Speaker 1: crying in the courtroom when they saw the last known
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Speaker 1: photo of their mom alive. When morph You arrived home,
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Speaker 1: his phone was turned on airplane mode at two forty
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Speaker 1: seven and wasn't turned back on until after ten o'clock
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Speaker 1: that night. On Mother's Day, Susanne's phone paying for the
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Speaker 1: last time at four twenty three in the morning, when
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Speaker 1: morph You had told investigators that Susanne was asleep when
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Speaker 1: he left for Broomfield at five. Let's talk about the
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Speaker 1: whole airplane mode fact. To you, Dan Corcentina, Formerployees chief
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Speaker 1: in Colorado, you have to intentionally turn your phone onto
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Speaker 1: airplane mode, that was not done by accident, Dan Corsentino.
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Speaker 1: If the phone was in airplane mode, they would have
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Speaker 1: to look at the operating system the WES log to
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Speaker 1: see if it was in airplane mode first of all,
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Speaker 1: to make that connection, and this would disconnect your phone
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Speaker 1: from the Sallier terrier or have it turned off. Phone's
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Speaker 1: track when they're turned on and off. And if there
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Speaker 1: is no log of him turning his phone off and
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Speaker 1: the cell power pains where we're no longer going at
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Speaker 1: this point in time the phone was going, the cell
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Speaker 1: service would be able to determine if it was manually
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Speaker 1: turned off by him. In this case, they're stating clearly
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Speaker 1: that the west log shows or the operating system log
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Speaker 1: shows that was manually put in airplane mode. Explain Spencer Corson,
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Speaker 1: do you agree or disagree? I agree with half so yes.
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Speaker 1: I think what he tried to do was turn his
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Speaker 1: cell phone into airplane mode, thinking that it wouldn't be
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Speaker 1: able to ping his location. But if the home had WiFi,
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Speaker 1: it would still be tracking the location of that phone.
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Speaker 1: And even if he didn't realize that, when they do
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Speaker 1: the forensics on the phone, the internal GPS coordinates would
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Speaker 1: would identify his location. So even if it was on
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Speaker 1: airplane mode and he was chasing her around the house,
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Speaker 1: the digital forensics would show up. So Nicole Deboard Hotschlube
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Speaker 1: joining US Girl Defense turning in Houston. Former prosecutor Nicole,
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Speaker 1: what is the state going to argue that this proves
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Speaker 1: turning the phone onto airplane mode? They are definitely going
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Speaker 1: to be arguing that he was making an effort to
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Speaker 1: conceal his behavior in every way, both his location and
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Speaker 1: potentially who was around him or near him on that phone,
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Speaker 1: and in an effort to conceal certainly it looked like
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Speaker 1: an effort to conceal guilt. Prime Stories with Nancy Grace. Guys,
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Speaker 1: we were talking about multiple bomb shales that have blown
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Speaker 1: up in a court of law during this preliminary hearing.
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Speaker 1: All in the search as to what happened to missing
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Speaker 1: mom Suzanne Morphy, Well, I can tell you right now
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Speaker 1: she's dead. Take a listen to our friend Jamie Leary
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Speaker 1: at CBS four Denver. Barry arrived home shortly after the
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Speaker 1: photo was taken. An investigators say selfhone coordinates show him
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Speaker 1: moving around sporadically outside the home. Well Barry's defense has
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Speaker 1: tried to poke holes in the accuracy of this. Investigators
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Speaker 1: this believed that this came from Barry chasing Susanne around
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Speaker 1: the home while she was conscious, just before killing her.
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Speaker 1: The defense team argues that this is pure speculation and
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Speaker 1: confirmed neighbors have heard no arguments around that time that
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Speaker 1: tranquilizer darkcap was discovered in Morphu's driver late dryer. Later
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Speaker 1: May tenth, the day Suzanne was reported missing, Mary Morphew
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Speaker 1: went to work in Broomfield and made five garbage dumps
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Speaker 1: before noon, telling investigators the only thing he can remember
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Speaker 1: throwing away during those five garbage jumps is tranquilizer gun materials.
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Speaker 1: Wait a minute, hold on to Laurence Sharff, So he
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Speaker 1: admits to police that he remembers throwing away tranquilizer materials. Yeah,
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Speaker 1: that was it. Out of the five trash runs that
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Speaker 1: he made, that was the only thing that he could
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Speaker 1: remember that he threw away. And you know, he also
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Speaker 1: when he got back to the morphe home that Mother's Day,
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Speaker 1: he also told investigators that his truck was messy. So
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Speaker 1: investigators obviously want to know exactly what he threw away,
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Speaker 1: and they haven't revealed if they found that out or
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Speaker 1: not yet in court, neighbors hear no arguments around this time.
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Speaker 1: Tranquilizer dart half discovered in Morphew's dryer. Later, I'm getting
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Speaker 1: so many analogies in my mind. I don't know if
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Speaker 1: you remember, jos Goot Morgan the Jodi Arias case, where
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Speaker 1: the the digital camera that Jody Arias had when she
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Speaker 1: murdered Travis Alexander was found in the dryer. Oh yeah,
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Speaker 1: watch her and it actually had her leg and foot
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Speaker 1: an inadvertent photo by the dead body. And so now
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Speaker 1: this guy leaves a tranquilizer dart half in his dryer.
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Speaker 1: How can you explain that way and explain what they're
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Speaker 1: talking about, jo Scott Morgan a tranquilizer dart half. Yeah,
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Speaker 1: that's I'm kind of scratching my head over it is. Well, Nancy,
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Speaker 1: you know this is bare country where they live, and
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Speaker 1: there are bare tranquilizers. Well no, but I think that
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Speaker 1: it's certainly something that if he had possession of, maybe
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Speaker 1: he forgot it, maybe put it in there in order
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Speaker 1: to remove evidence, like Jody did. You brought her up
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Speaker 1: and thinking, you know, she thought that it was going
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Speaker 1: to degrade the images that were on there. But back
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Speaker 1: to the tranquilizer itself. If this was actually used on Suzanne,
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Speaker 1: the type that would be used, they used to use
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Speaker 1: a drug called ketamine. There's a newer drug now. The
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Speaker 1: acronym is BAM. The word is very The words are very,
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Speaker 1: very long. I won't go into it, but just suffice
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Speaker 1: it to say it's almost like a hypnotic, a pre
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Speaker 1: anesthesia kind of medication that they used to put down
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Speaker 1: animals safely in order to convey them, to move them around, like,
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Speaker 1: for instance, if they're going to do surge on an animal,
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Speaker 1: like a big animal like a bear, or you might
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Speaker 1: use in a zoo to tranquilize a tiger, that sort
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Speaker 1: of thing, to take the tiger in to do surgery,
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Speaker 1: pull teeth, that sort of thing, so it would immobilize her.
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Speaker 1: I think the key here is would she have had
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Speaker 1: an awareness of what's going on? And how did he
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Speaker 1: get his hands on this? If in fact that's what
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Speaker 1: we're talking about, and that's going to be key. Unfortunately,
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Speaker 1: since we don't have her body, we can't test for
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Speaker 1: toxicology anyway. Nancy, I know that Barrymoreph you had like
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Speaker 1: a deer farm back in Indiana, and I was told
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Speaker 1: that he used a tranquilizer to safely, you know, either
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Speaker 1: sell the deer or move the deer around. Well, well,
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Speaker 1: what's it doing popping up in his dryer? Is that spencer?
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Speaker 1: It was, ma'am. An interesting thing if he's used to
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Speaker 1: using tranquilizer darts on deer, where as soon as their
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Speaker 1: head their survival instinct is to just drop down to
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Speaker 1: the ground, and he was expecting that same If he
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Speaker 1: had that same expectation for shooting his wife. It takes
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Speaker 1: about three to four minutes for that drug to take effect.
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Speaker 1: So she had been hit and then tried to get
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Speaker 1: away from him and was running around the house. That
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Speaker 1: may be exactly how that scenario played out. To doctor
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Speaker 1: Jerry Crawlston joining US psychologist Professor Saint Leo University doctor
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Speaker 1: Jory he had said he shot I think he said
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Speaker 1: eighty five squirrels in his backyard the day before. But
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Speaker 1: that doesn't explain the dart gun because a tranquilizer dart
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Speaker 1: is for a large mammal, not for a squirrel, much
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Speaker 1: less eighty five. Wasn't it eighty five jackies? Again? And
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Speaker 1: it just reminds me Doctor Jory of the cult Mom
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Speaker 1: Laurie Valle case where her lead her husband says that
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Speaker 1: he shot I think he said a possumur raccoon and
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Speaker 1: buried it and the family pet cemetery, when actually what
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Speaker 1: was buried there all that day were two children, Jj
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Speaker 1: and Tyling. So remember that case too. So you know
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Speaker 1: the fact that you might use a dark gun tranquilizer
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Speaker 1: on your wife. No, you know, really strikes me on
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Speaker 1: this is he appears to be very organized on certain things.
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Speaker 1: And we had talked about this previously about him about
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Speaker 1: the power and control, but you know that organizational flow
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Speaker 1: that he demonstrates can become highly disorganized when that power
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Speaker 1: and control, that rage kicks in. And just like you
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Speaker 1: know we talked about it, if he shot her with that,
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Speaker 1: Now she's running around, you know, three or four minutes
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Speaker 1: to get that into her system before she goes down.
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Speaker 1: You know that there goes at Billy hunting her dawn
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Speaker 1: like an animal like animal. I could just imagine Susanne
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Speaker 1: Morphy running through the home and that was a big
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Speaker 1: mansion they bought with her money from her family, I
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Speaker 1: think Lauren Sharf, and she's running and then slowly drugged
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Speaker 1: goes slower and slower and slower. But there's more. Take
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Speaker 1: a listen to Russell Haythorne den Verse seven. Telematics data
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Speaker 1: from Barry's Ford truck also shows him opening and closing
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Speaker 1: doors at odd hours the day before Suzanne disappeared, and
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Speaker 1: moving around his mountain property in the truck. Rusing also
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Speaker 1: says they found a tranquilizer dart cap in the dryer
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Speaker 1: of the Morphuse home. The agent wrote in the arrest
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Speaker 1: affidavit that Barry was most likely chasing Susanne around while
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Speaker 1: she was conscious, and that's why Barry's phone pinged in
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Speaker 1: different areas around the house that evidence doesn't like. But
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Speaker 1: the defense poking holes in that theory today in court,
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Speaker 1: showing evidence that his movement would have been impossible because
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Speaker 1: the phone would have had to move through walls and
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Speaker 1: at speeds up to forty two miles per hour to
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Speaker 1: get from one place to the next if the cell
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Speaker 1: records are correct. Mm. I don't think the jury's going
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Speaker 1: to buy that. You know, I didn't know this, Lauren Sharff.
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Speaker 1: Lauren Sharff in the courtroom from the Get Guy joining
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Speaker 1: us in Flux twenty one, so they could tell through
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Speaker 1: what manner that he was opening and closing the doors
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Speaker 1: to his vehicle. Yeah, they had you know, the GPS
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Speaker 1: data from his truck and that's what and they explained
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Speaker 1: it as far as if you know, his break lights
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Speaker 1: swent on, or his door opening and closing, as far
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Speaker 1: as what movement he did with the truck as well
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Speaker 1: as like moving it backwards and moving it forward, and
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Speaker 1: they gave it specific time as when this happened. You know,
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Speaker 1: I didn't know that Spencer Courson, founder president of Course
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Speaker 1: and Security Group, that when you open and close your
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Speaker 1: doors that's tracked. I mean I knew that, you know,
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Speaker 1: what is it called um on Star systems can tell
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Speaker 1: where you are. It's already built into your vehicle in
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Speaker 1: newer cars, but I didn't know that they could tell.
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Speaker 1: Not that I care whether you open or close your
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Speaker 1: doors or back up. It tracks to that degree. Yeah,
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Speaker 1: the diagnostics on today's more modern vehicles have a full
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Speaker 1: battery of insights and intel that sort of helped the
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Speaker 1: manufacturer to you know, if so if you say, hey,
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Speaker 1: you know the door off the hinges, you know, and
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Speaker 1: they can sell well, no, you open this door one
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Speaker 1: hundred thousand times. That's why it fell off the hinges,
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Speaker 1: so it would kind of avoids the warranty um. And
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Speaker 1: it's just that's how your your car can tell you, hey,
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Speaker 1: that your back doors is not closed all the way,
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Speaker 1: or you know there's someone in your If you put
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Speaker 1: like a heavy you know, back of groceries on the
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Speaker 1: passenger seat, it'll tell you that that chair needs a seatbelt.
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Speaker 1: There's a lot of things that are intended for for
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Speaker 1: our safety and our health, wealth and well being. I
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Speaker 1: can also be used in an investigation such as this. Well,
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Speaker 1: it's almost like a black box in an airplane. I
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Speaker 1: mean very exactly, and I mean you have a hard drive,
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Speaker 1: so it's it's recording that data and it's automatically stored
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Speaker 1: for historical purposes. So you're absolutely right that doubt is
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Speaker 1: very similar in that I hear you of Courcentina, but
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Speaker 1: I no idea that's somewhere my price lord minivan, somebody
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Speaker 1: is keeping track of how many times I opened the doors?
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Speaker 1: You know what have at it time stories with Nancy Grace,
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Speaker 1: guys are talking about what's going down in a court
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Speaker 1: of law. In the disappearance of Susanne more View, she
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Speaker 1: didn't disappear. She's dead, and we're learning about a dart
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Speaker 1: gun and the odd movements of her husband around that time.
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Speaker 1: Can you imagine how powed another technical legal term, he was.
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Speaker 1: And he gets home and finds her in the backyard
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Speaker 1: in a swimsuit, sunbathing and sending pictures to her boyfriend. Look,
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Speaker 1: this woman had been trying to leave her husband for
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Speaker 1: a long time and he would guilt tripper every time
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Speaker 1: she tried to leave. She says he was controlling. There's
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Speaker 1: evidence of domestic abuse where he would hit her in
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Speaker 1: the head. I guess she did want to leave him,
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Speaker 1: but now the evidence of him tracking her like big
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Speaker 1: game through the house with a tranquilizer dart gun. Take
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Speaker 1: a listen to Jim Benneman, CBS Ford, Denver investigators phone
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Speaker 1: part of a tranquilizer dart inside the house of a
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Speaker 1: husband accused of murdering his wife. That's one of the
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Speaker 1: new revelations today during a two day hearing to determine
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Speaker 1: if Barrymore if you should stand trial in Chaffee County
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Speaker 1: for the murder of Susanne Morephew Susanne Vanner on Mother's
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Speaker 1: Day of last year. Her body has yet to be found,
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Speaker 1: but investigators believe she has been killed and Mark Salinger, now,
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Speaker 1: I hope you're sitting down for this, Mark Shalinger joining
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Speaker 1: us from nineties. The judge also saw surveillance pictures of
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Speaker 1: Barry and Broomfield on May tenth, that day Susanne was
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Speaker 1: reported missing. Investigators say he stopped at five trash cans
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Speaker 1: in the area and dropped items off, though they haven't
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Speaker 1: said if they know what he threw away. They also
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Speaker 1: say he changed clothing multiple times that day and put
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Speaker 1: some of the put some of the films that he
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Speaker 1: put in the trash camps, and they don't yet know
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Speaker 1: exactly what was in those trash camps. Prosecutors also said
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Speaker 1: today that while they don't have evidence Barry was having
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Speaker 1: an affair, cell phone data shows Barry searched for quote
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Speaker 1: cute girls near Salida and was on the online affair
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Speaker 1: dating website Ashley Madison, Okay, Laurence Sheriff, I bet when
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Speaker 1: you went to journalism school, ye had no idea you
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Speaker 1: would be investigating what's the name of it, jihad? What
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Speaker 1: celebrity gihad? Yeah, I didn't know what that was. I
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Speaker 1: had to look it up. Well, I didn't know what
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Speaker 1: it was until Barry more Few go ahead and tell
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Speaker 1: us what's the good news? Well, I guess this is
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Speaker 1: like a porn site that you can see like nude
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Speaker 1: and and videos, nude photos and video of celebrities that
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Speaker 1: Islamic extremists take. And then he also Ashley Madison, I
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Speaker 1: had heard it before. Did you just say, uh, celebrity
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Speaker 1: news that jihades take. That's what my understanding is. Yeah,
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Speaker 1: it's a it's a satirical celebrity gossip website which is
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Speaker 1: known for sharing leaked or hacked private videos of celebrities.
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Speaker 1: You seem to know a lot about it, Spencer Courson,
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Speaker 1: I work with a lot of celebrities or a lot
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Speaker 1: of gehada or a lot of cradots that poses jihadest
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Speaker 1: posting celebrity news. Okay, fine, but you see some famous
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Speaker 1: celebrities head stuck on some naked body. I just imagining.
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Speaker 1: And no, I haven't been to the site yet, but
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Speaker 1: I do know a lot about Ashley Madison. That website
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Speaker 1: seems to crop up and a lot of criminal cases.
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Speaker 1: It's a hookup site for married people, as my understanding
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Speaker 1: of Ashley Madison. So now we're getting to the crux
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Speaker 1: of it. He is claiming she's having an affair, and
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Speaker 1: now we're finding out he's doing searches for quote, cute
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Speaker 1: girls near Salida. You know what if I found on
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Speaker 1: my husband David Lynch's search history, which is way too
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Speaker 1: boring for me to go through. I've tried it once
23:37
Speaker 1: and my eyes were bleeding. Cute girls near me. Oh no,
23:44
Speaker 1: you cannot tell me, Lauren Sharf, this is not the
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Speaker 1: pot column, the cattle black. This guy's sleeping with somebody.
23:52
Speaker 1: I just don't know who. I mean, it was definitely
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Speaker 1: evident that you know it was their marriage was crumbling,
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Speaker 1: and that you know he's sending somebody. Lauren is the
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Speaker 1: woman video chatting him up in the jail. I mean
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Speaker 1: there's seven women I think, video chatting very more. Fhew
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Speaker 1: behind bars, Like what they're expecting him to come out,
24:18
Speaker 1: dress up, shower and shave and take him out to dinner.
24:22
Speaker 1: That's not happenings Like the logical firm is projection. So yeah,
24:26
Speaker 1: I go along with you, Nancy, he's having an affair assemble. Yeah,
24:31
Speaker 1: just what about isn't there a woman that is now
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Speaker 1: video chatting him behind bars that he was seeing and
24:37
Speaker 1: going to her home before he was arrested. Yeah, there,
24:42
Speaker 1: and what they're just what having a prayer meeting? If
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Speaker 1: I could just jump in this is dan. The affair
24:48
Speaker 1: doesn't necessarily have to be physically in the same room.
24:53
Speaker 1: He's having an affair that's taking place obviously electronically digitally
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Speaker 1: through the media, and they're both communicating and they're probably
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Speaker 1: sharing intimate information. As you said, Nancy, that is the
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Speaker 1: foundation for an affair that's going to grow into a
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Speaker 1: physical situation. You know, I could twiddle my phones all
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Speaker 1: day long and figure out or try to figure out
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Speaker 1: what Barried Morpheu was doing with various women. But what
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Speaker 1: I don't care. That just gives me a little bit
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Speaker 1: of motive which I don't have to have to prove
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Speaker 1: the case. That's the law. I need to get us
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Speaker 1: out of the weeds and back into the middle of
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Speaker 1: the road about the hard evidence. Take a listen to
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Speaker 1: our friends at Fox twenty one our cut eighty six.
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Speaker 1: An analyst testified that data from Morphew Struck show the
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Speaker 1: power was removed around five thirty and the system was rebooted.
25:48
Speaker 1: The analyst could not explain why Suzanne's cell phone paying
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Speaker 1: for the very last time, just before thirty am on
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Speaker 1: May tenth. Morphy said she was asleep when he left
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Speaker 1: around five am for a job in Broomfield. Lauren Sharf
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Speaker 1: going for a job in Broomfield A. It's my understanding
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Speaker 1: there was no real job, and he was trying to
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Speaker 1: put together a ragtag team of subcontractors that morning around
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Speaker 1: four am. Also, isn't it true that he was spotted
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Speaker 1: on video surveillance? This reminds me so much of the
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Speaker 1: Connecticut missing mom of five Jennifer Dulos. All they found
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Speaker 1: of her is a big pool of blood in her
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Speaker 1: garage and in her car, and video of her husband
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Speaker 1: and his lover dumping such as rags and so forth.
26:38
Speaker 1: And isn't it true that in Broomville, where he says
26:41
Speaker 1: he's got a job going on, Barry Morephew has spotted
26:45
Speaker 1: stopping five or six times throwing things away. Yeah, I
26:51
Speaker 1: mean one of the stops he had to not just
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Speaker 1: put one like through. He's not just like throwing it
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Speaker 1: in the trash. He's pushing it down into the trash.
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Speaker 1: In the photos you can see he uses two hands
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Speaker 1: to put it lower in the trash. At one of
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Speaker 1: the stops and he's he's going to like men's warehouse
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Speaker 1: dumpster and McDonald's dumpster, and you know an RTD bus
27:14
Speaker 1: stop dumpster or trash trash site as well, and then
27:17
Speaker 1: as well as his hotel dumpster multiple times too. And
27:22
Speaker 1: you know it's and you know, they asked him what
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Speaker 1: were these what did you throw away? What? You know,
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Speaker 1: what are in those trash bags? And he the only
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Speaker 1: thing he could remember was the tranquilizer material that he
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Speaker 1: threw away. Nicole deboord hots Globe, criminal defense attorney in Houston,
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Speaker 1: former prosecutor Houston Criminal Defense dot Com. Nicole, you and
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Speaker 1: I would have a field day with that. First of all,
27:47
Speaker 1: I would get plenty of women on the jury because
27:51
Speaker 1: you know, anybody in their right mind, especially at this
27:54
Speaker 1: time of COVID, it's not going to go to a
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Speaker 1: public trash can, put something in it and then put
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Speaker 1: your hands and squish it down, just cram it down.
28:06
Speaker 1: You're gonna put your hands and a public trash cans
28:10
Speaker 1: like one of the subsided green dumpsters behind McDonald's. Oh no,
28:16
Speaker 1: that's not going to happen. You know, trying to get
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Speaker 1: rid of evidence, it's absolutely absurd. In his explanation all
28:24
Speaker 1: of these things, the tranquiliser piece in the in the dryer, uh,
28:29
Speaker 1: you know, the power coming off on the phone. You know,
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Speaker 1: he thinks he's clever, but he is not as clever
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Speaker 1: as he thinks. And now you know, this excuse that
28:37
Speaker 1: he's making for what he might have been throwing away
28:40
Speaker 1: is just you know, it's sort of an empty and
28:42
Speaker 1: hollow h You know, he's trying to he's trying to
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Speaker 1: come up with a reason why he was out and
28:47
Speaker 1: about throwing out trash in public trash cans. And I
28:49
Speaker 1: just cannot imagine that any jury is going to buy
28:52
Speaker 1: this crime stories with Nancy Grace, Nicole Debord, Hodge Club.
29:09
Speaker 1: You've tried a lot of cases. There's the old saying,
29:12
Speaker 1: I think this goes all the way back to Nixon,
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Speaker 1: But I'm not sure. It's not the crime, it's the
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Speaker 1: cover up. The point here is we're getting more evidence
29:21
Speaker 1: about a cover up then we do. Then we have
29:24
Speaker 1: about where is Susanne Morpheu's body. But the cover up
29:29
Speaker 1: braves the crime, Nicole, it really does. I mean, this
29:33
Speaker 1: is going to be an interesting case too as it
29:35
Speaker 1: moves forward ultimately in front of a jury, because I'll
29:38
Speaker 1: be curious to see whether this guy decides to testify.
29:41
Speaker 1: Sometimes people who think they can come up with an
29:43
Speaker 1: explanation for everything really want to get their story out
29:47
Speaker 1: there in front of a jury. And I wonder if
29:49
Speaker 1: this individual will decide that he too wants to tell
29:52
Speaker 1: his story. I don't think they'll buy it, but it
29:54
Speaker 1: can all early. Pray Nicole Debord Hodge Club that he
29:58
Speaker 1: does take the stand. Hey, Lauren, who told you in
30:01
Speaker 1: the courtroom that you had ruined their lives one of
30:05
Speaker 1: very sisters? How did you ruin their life? Good question?
30:10
Speaker 1: I don't know. I was just trying to, you know,
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Speaker 1: report on Suzanne and her disappearance, and I don't know
30:18
Speaker 1: how I ruined their life, you know. Also, apparently the
30:22
Speaker 1: adult daughters will once adult. One is I think just
30:26
Speaker 1: coming out of high school. They both are signing with
30:28
Speaker 1: the dad, right yeah. I mean throughout the you know,
30:32
Speaker 1: court hearing, you can see the daughters, you know, obviously
30:36
Speaker 1: visibly upset, but in between breaks, they're very turns around
30:40
Speaker 1: and you know it says I love you. He pulls
30:42
Speaker 1: his mass down and says I love you, and the
30:44
Speaker 1: girls you know say I miss you and love you
30:47
Speaker 1: and you know, you're my best friend and things like that,
30:50
Speaker 1: and they're you know, praying for him, and so they're
30:53
Speaker 1: definitely uh, you know, well, you know what I just did.
30:56
Speaker 1: Something really was really wrong. I rolled my eyes, all
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Speaker 1: my eyes because I don't believe. I roll my eyes
31:04
Speaker 1: because I feel that he, Barry Morphy, is manipulating his daughters,
31:08
Speaker 1: and I also feel really bad for them. Doctor Jerry Cross,
31:15
Speaker 1: and I've tried a lot of cases, and adult children
31:20
Speaker 1: typically will side with the living parent, even when the
31:23
Speaker 1: parents accused of murder, because I don't think that they
31:26
Speaker 1: can emotionally accept what has happened. So I don't want
31:30
Speaker 1: to make light of what these girls are going through
31:33
Speaker 1: because they've lost their mother and now their dad's on
31:36
Speaker 1: trial for he is going to be on trial for
31:38
Speaker 1: her murder. Yeah. And to add to that victimization that
31:42
Speaker 1: the fathers using for the manipulation, is she even having
31:46
Speaker 1: an affair for two years and so you know he's
31:51
Speaker 1: a victim of that. And I think one of the daughters,
31:53
Speaker 1: even when she found out about it just recently or something,
31:57
Speaker 1: you know, that really impacted her. Guys, I'm wanting to
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Speaker 1: take in a listen to our cut seventy five, Tyler,
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Speaker 1: it's our friends at Fox twenty one. The affair was
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Speaker 1: allegedly for a year and a half, something Susanne kept
32:13
Speaker 1: from everyone, even her best friend, Sheila Oliver. Text messages
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Speaker 1: between the two friends show Susanne expressing concerns about her
32:20
Speaker 1: marriage with Barry and how it affected her health. A
32:22
Speaker 1: text message reads, he looks for any reason to run.
32:25
Speaker 1: It can be small, and he blows up and takes off.
32:28
Speaker 1: I believe there's still another I can't win with him.
32:32
Speaker 1: He's too good at the manipulation. I feel stuck. I
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Speaker 1: can't let my health decline again. Susanne was in remission
32:38
Speaker 1: for the second time when she disappeared, Lauren Sharf joining
32:42
Speaker 1: me Fox twenty one News. You can find her at
32:45
Speaker 1: Lauren Sharff TV. Lauren, what was her ailment? She had
32:51
Speaker 1: leukemia should a cancer, and this is the second time
32:55
Speaker 1: she's had it. She had it in college as well,
32:58
Speaker 1: and Barry morephew, he helped her through that. You know,
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Speaker 1: his sister or Susanne's sister told me, you know, Barry
33:05
Speaker 1: would carry her from a place to place or whatever
33:09
Speaker 1: in college and helped her with that. And then she
33:12
Speaker 1: also got it I believe right before they moved to
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Speaker 1: Colorado the second time. More of an insight into their marriage,
33:20
Speaker 1: take a listen to our cut seventy seven, Jamie Leary,
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Speaker 1: CBS four. Prosecutors have painted a picture of a man
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Speaker 1: who desperately did not want to lose his wife just
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Speaker 1: before her disappearance, so Susanne sent Barrymorephe, her husband, a
33:33
Speaker 1: text indicating that she was done. He responded with the
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Speaker 1: text indicating suicide, saying he wouldn't be around for much
33:39
Speaker 1: longer and that he was going to see his savior.
33:42
Speaker 1: Susanne and Barrymorephy met and fell in love when they
33:45
Speaker 1: were just seventeen. And we learned on day one of
33:47
Speaker 1: this here and that Susanne was looking for an opportunity
33:49
Speaker 1: to leave and had been having an affair for the
33:52
Speaker 1: last two years. Her last correspondence with anyone was with
33:55
Speaker 1: a man. She was having that affair with Jeff Libbler,
33:58
Speaker 1: investigator sannet Ay ninth. They exchanged fifty nine messages and
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Speaker 1: consider a selfie she sent him while sunbathing outside her
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Speaker 1: home her last proof of life. You know to Lauren Sharf,
34:10
Speaker 1: tell me what's happening in the court run. How are
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Speaker 1: the daughters in the family all taking this. That first
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Speaker 1: day of the preliminary hearing, when the whole affair came out,
34:20
Speaker 1: they everyone, you know, the Morphew family were crying. I
34:26
Speaker 1: mean when they saw the last known photo of Suzanne.
34:29
Speaker 1: The girls were one girl was leaning on her legs,
34:34
Speaker 1: you know, her hair covering over her face, just in tears.
34:39
Speaker 1: And I mean the two girls are supporting one of another.
34:42
Speaker 1: They're holding each other's hands, rubbing each other's backs, passing
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Speaker 1: tissues to one another. It was definitely emotional, emotional day.
34:52
Speaker 1: So why don't you take a listen to our cut
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Speaker 1: eighty seven our friends at Fox twenty one. The state
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Speaker 1: mentioned multiple dating web site that they claim Verry Morphew
35:03
Speaker 1: search and not include Ashley Madison, as well as Celebji Hot.
35:08
Speaker 1: When this was brought up, Morphew was visibly upset, and
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Speaker 1: he even sat up in his seat in court. An
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Speaker 1: investigator spoke with a friend of the family who recorded
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Speaker 1: morephe accusing Susanne of sleeping with a man in a basement,
35:21
Speaker 1: and Morphew allegedly said he would shoot off his balls
35:25
Speaker 1: and he would shoot and shove them down his throat
35:28
Speaker 1: if he found the guy his defense made it clear
35:31
Speaker 1: that there was only one search of find a Q
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Speaker 1: Girl in Salida, and they questioned the state's knowledge of
35:36
Speaker 1: whether they knew for certain it was Morphew who was
35:39
Speaker 1: searching those dating websites. Wait a minute, Lauren Sharp, are
35:43
Speaker 1: they actually going to try to tell me that it
35:45
Speaker 1: was Suzanne Morphew looking up celebjahad to look at nude women. Yeah,
35:53
Speaker 1: I mean the defense was just saying, how do you
35:55
Speaker 1: know for certain that it was Barry Morphew who was
35:58
Speaker 1: searching these sites? Now, I want to circle back to
36:01
Speaker 1: the hard evidence, whether he's having an affair or not
36:04
Speaker 1: having an affair, And the hard evidence right now are
36:07
Speaker 1: his movements, the dart gun, and the fake alibi that
36:14
Speaker 1: he created the morning Suzanne disappeared. I'm not sure that
36:19
Speaker 1: that's when she really disappeared, but he's left behind quite
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Speaker 1: a digital path a mile wide. Lauren Shar Fox twenty
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Speaker 1: one News reporter, all the story from the very very beginning.
36:33
Speaker 1: Tell me about his manufactured alibi. It all started when
36:37
Speaker 1: Suzanne first went missing. He told somebody that he had
36:41
Speaker 1: gone for continuing volunteer firefighter education at some out of
36:47
Speaker 1: town seminar on mother's day, a day that he knew
36:51
Speaker 1: his two girls would also be gone. That pen didn't
36:56
Speaker 1: pan out, And then it turned out he had put
36:59
Speaker 1: together a crew that morning, the morning she's reported missing,
37:05
Speaker 1: around four am, to go to another town to build
37:08
Speaker 1: a wall, like a retainer wall. And it wasn't a
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Speaker 1: real job. Yeah, So the whole thing about the you know,
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Speaker 1: firefighter training that was that didn't happen because there was
37:20
Speaker 1: no firefighter training in the middle of COVID. And then
37:23
Speaker 1: you know, when he went to the Broomfield and worked
37:27
Speaker 1: on this wall, retaining wall, I spook with multiple of
37:31
Speaker 1: the employees that he had called kind of last minute
37:34
Speaker 1: to work on that job. And then I also found
37:36
Speaker 1: out that you in the city of Broomfield, you cannot
37:39
Speaker 1: work on a holiday or Sunday, and Mother's Day fell
37:43
Speaker 1: on a Sunday and found out that you can't work.
37:47
Speaker 1: He knew that the company he was doing this job
37:50
Speaker 1: knew that, and the job was to fix a retaining
37:55
Speaker 1: wall that he and his crew had messed up a
37:58
Speaker 1: year prior in October of twenty nineteen, and in court,
38:03
Speaker 1: the investigators found out through the GPS tracking of his
38:06
Speaker 1: truck that he only was at that retaining wall for
38:09
Speaker 1: about ten to fifteen minutes, and his crew had told
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Speaker 1: me that it looked like he had only been done
38:16
Speaker 1: about like ten to fifteen minutes of work. And meanwhile
38:20
Speaker 1: he's in his hotel room for five hours, and he's
38:24
Speaker 1: shown on surveillance camera leaving and coming from his hotel
38:29
Speaker 1: room the time stamps, and every single time he's leaving
38:34
Speaker 1: and coming, he is, you know, trashing his hand, and
38:37
Speaker 1: he has different clothes on from every time he comes
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Speaker 1: and goes from the hotel room in Broomfield. We wait
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Speaker 1: as justice unfalls. Nancy Grace CROM's story, signing off Goodbye friend,