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Speaker 1: It's Thursday, August nineteen. This is Jaguars Happy Hour and
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Speaker 1: It's a long list. Welcome in Jaguars Happy Hour on
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Speaker 1: this Thursday afternoon. It's preseason week two. I'm J. P. Shadrack.
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Speaker 1: We've got a busy program ahead today, including Peter King
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Speaker 1: of NBC Sports joining us at four fifteen this afternoon.
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Speaker 1: We caught up on the practice field today and plenty
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Speaker 1: of thoughts from Peter on the adjustment to the NFL.
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Speaker 1: For Urban Meyer, Trevor Lawrence, Well, he was standing. Peter
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Speaker 1: King was in the quarterback huddle at one point today
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Speaker 1: on one of the practice fields. Jeff Loghman joins us
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Speaker 1: sunset at four thirty to day. We'll get his thoughts
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Speaker 1: going in the preseason week two. The prep continue today
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Speaker 1: on the practice field for the Jags, and in in the
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Speaker 1: second hour of Jaguars Happy Hour gets underweight at five
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Speaker 1: o'clock on the Jaguars Radio Network and we'll hear from
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Speaker 1: passing game coordinator Brian Schottenheimer and plenty more ahead today.
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Speaker 1: News of the day. Jaguars back in the practice field
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Speaker 1: Thursday in preparation for that preseason week two games, the
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Speaker 1: Jaguars in the Saints on Monday Night football in the
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Speaker 1: Caesar's Super Dome and the Big Easy. The Jags today
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Speaker 1: moved toward their Wednesday schedule, what will be their Wednesday
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Speaker 1: schedule least trying it out on a Thursday and preparation.
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Speaker 1: Part of the preparation to find a routine for the
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Speaker 1: team on a day to day basis. U Urban has
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Speaker 1: talked about that in the past as well for individual players,
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Speaker 1: trying to figure out, you know, what to do on
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Speaker 1: certain days, when to go lift, what what the routine
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Speaker 1: of a daily football player is. So that's part of
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Speaker 1: the process in preseason for the team as well. So
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Speaker 1: practice times, media time was before practice today, a little
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Speaker 1: shift in a protocol the last couple of weeks of
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Speaker 1: training camp, so more of a regular season field today
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Speaker 1: leading into practice. A couple of transactions before practice today.
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Speaker 1: Daniel Thomas, the safety, second year man out of Auburn,
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Speaker 1: was pulled off the COVID nineteen reserve list. That's good news.
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Speaker 1: So nobody on that list currently. Luke Barker, the cornerback,
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Speaker 1: was waived from the squad to make room. Let's hear
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Speaker 1: from offensive coordinator Daryl Bebel. He spoke with the media
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Speaker 1: today this morning before practice. Trevor Lawrence last week six
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Speaker 1: of nine passing seventy one yards of course, in fifteen
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Speaker 1: plays of action against the Cleveland Browns. Bebel would not
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Speaker 1: say certainly if he is starting. He said, it's leading
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Speaker 1: that way. They still have some meetings and things to
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Speaker 1: get to to try to figure that out. In preseason
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Speaker 1: week two and New Orleans, both Lawrence and Gardner Minshew
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Speaker 1: are still getting first team reps in practice. Bevil today
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Speaker 1: said though that the actual game process, getting ready for
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Speaker 1: the game, going through the motions during the game was
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Speaker 1: huge for Lawrence. The whole game, you know, the whole
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Speaker 1: game experience for him, was a really important part of
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Speaker 1: for him to have. You know, he's he's just had
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Speaker 1: NFL training camp, n f L t s, you know,
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Speaker 1: so that was his first opportunity to get in there
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Speaker 1: where actually those guys could tackle him, right, So, I
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Speaker 1: mean that that really changes the dynamic of it, and
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Speaker 1: you know, so he'll he'll continue to get better each
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Speaker 1: and every time that he goes out there. There's no
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Speaker 1: no real doubt about that. It feels like and we
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Speaker 1: heard urban Meyer discuss the urgency that he really didn't
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Speaker 1: see a lot of early in the game last week.
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Speaker 1: I don't think that means a no huddle offense for
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Speaker 1: the Jaguars, let's say, but get to the line, snapped
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Speaker 1: the ball and get going and move along on offense.
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Speaker 1: Just felt a little maybe sluggish in that department last week.
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Speaker 1: I've been working on that in practice, Urging some temper,
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Speaker 1: urging some uh, some temp about to get guys to
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Speaker 1: run and move a little faster and from the huddle
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Speaker 1: to the line and things like that. We'll see what
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Speaker 1: that looks like this coming Monday night. And of course,
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Speaker 1: the pace of the game a little bit different from Meyer,
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Speaker 1: he said that after the game last week, he's used
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Speaker 1: to getting three or four drives and a quarter in college.
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Speaker 1: You might get that many, if that and a half
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Speaker 1: in the NFL, and the game just rolls along quicker.
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Speaker 1: Small adjustment that he probably knew, but you might not
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Speaker 1: realize how fast things go in the NFL until you're
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Speaker 1: in it, And he certainly was for the first time.
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Speaker 1: Last week we got to hear from James ag Knew today.
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Speaker 1: A fifth year receiver, actually it's only about a second
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Speaker 1: year as a true wide receiver. He's played a number
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Speaker 1: of positions. dB was a running back for a short time.
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Speaker 1: He's a punt returner at a first former first team
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Speaker 1: All Pro returner. He's now a kick returner for the Jaguars.
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Speaker 1: It's a tough coming at the tough, tough cut coming
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Speaker 1: at the wide receiver position. And Rbermayer said last week
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Speaker 1: they didn't really get to see a lot of Agnew
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Speaker 1: in the first game, and then you might not see
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Speaker 1: a lot of him moving ahead because they wanted to
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Speaker 1: get him out of the game last week. Since he's
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Speaker 1: the kick returner, that's as as solidified as you can
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Speaker 1: probably get to make the roster for Agnuel, though a
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Speaker 1: big free agent signing for this team in the off season,
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Speaker 1: he wouldn't admit it that he's solidified on the roster.
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Speaker 1: He's always competing, as he said today, but he knows
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Speaker 1: how tough those cuts will be at the wide receiver
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Speaker 1: position in the week's ahead. You know, we got a
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Speaker 1: lot of vets and we got a lot of young
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Speaker 1: guys who you know, have proven themselves and who are
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Speaker 1: out there making plays every day. So I can't speak
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Speaker 1: on how that decision goes down and you know what
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Speaker 1: that decision feels like, but I'm Sarah's definitely tough. It's definitely,
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Speaker 1: it's definitely tough, just like you know, grinding your butt
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Speaker 1: off with those guys every day and then like one day,
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Speaker 1: like you're they're not there anymore, and it's just like
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Speaker 1: it's it's something you never get used to in the league. Yeah,
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Speaker 1: it never gets uh, never gets easier to see guys
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Speaker 1: that you've battled with in the offseason no longer around.
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Speaker 1: And that will be the case again coming up this Tuesday,
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Speaker 1: when the roster goes from eighty five down to eighty.
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Speaker 1: The Jaguars wide receivers, as we've said a lot in
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Speaker 1: this preseason, well they're down to thirteen now. At one
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Speaker 1: point they had a couple more than that, and that's
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Speaker 1: going to be a very difficult cut. They see, you know,
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Speaker 1: you have a pretty good idea of the first three
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Speaker 1: at least, and Chark and schin Ault and uh, you know,
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Speaker 1: and Marvin Jones Jr. Courses letting up a training camp
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Speaker 1: this year. But where do these other guys fall. These
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Speaker 1: next two preseason games are huge to figure that out.
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Speaker 1: It seems like Agnews aboard as one of those maybe
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Speaker 1: the sixth receiver slash kick returner. There's a lot of
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Speaker 1: work to be done at that position in the days ahead.
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Speaker 1: Let's move on the defensive side of the football. Now,
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Speaker 1: four players are listed at CO Number one's at strong
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Speaker 1: safety for the Jacksonville Jaguars. Josh Jones, Jared Wilson, Rudy Ford,
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Speaker 1: and Andre Cisco are at strong safety for this team.
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Speaker 1: We heard from Jared Wilson today. He gave his view
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Speaker 1: of the battle at that position. I think everyone has
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Speaker 1: a job to do each and every day, and it's
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Speaker 1: to come out and compete. And I wouldn't say it's
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Speaker 1: different between training camps in the past, but the intensity
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Speaker 1: of everything and the details of every single rep counts
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Speaker 1: and it's a winner and louse of every rep is
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Speaker 1: being taken into consideration in this camp. So it's been
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Speaker 1: fun and it's been a lot of energy and training camp. Well.
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Speaker 1: Andre Cisco at that spot is a draft pick and
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Speaker 1: he put together a really nice game last week, had
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Speaker 1: the most snaps played of any defender for the Jaguar
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Speaker 1: the snaps in the game and eight on special teams
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Speaker 1: as well at a few different times. Flashed in that
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Speaker 1: game against the Cleveland Browns. That was a really good
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Speaker 1: sign for him. Jared Wilson is a vet. He's been
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Speaker 1: around this team for a long time. One of the
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Speaker 1: only only uh full of defenders remaining from that team.
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Speaker 1: Though he didn't start on that team, he was around
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Speaker 1: on that roster that year, so he's in that fight.
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Speaker 1: There's a there's a lot of reps to be had.
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Speaker 1: D Ford is better than in this league. Kind of
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Speaker 1: came on as a special teams guy this year and
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Speaker 1: we'll see what they have in mind. Rudy Ford didn't
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Speaker 1: play in last week's game, so this one coming up
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Speaker 1: is a big for him to see where he falls
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Speaker 1: in the depth chart there. Let's go to linebacker now
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Speaker 1: and Shaquille Quarterman going into year two with the Jacksonville Jaguars.
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Speaker 1: He's right now behind Damian Wilson on the depth chart
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Speaker 1: at middle linebacker and a preview now of an interview
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Speaker 1: that will air in full on Monday night on the
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Speaker 1: Public's Tailgate Show, Quarterman feels different headed into year number two.
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Speaker 1: COVID through a lot of things into whack last year,
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Speaker 1: but you know, getting it back on on track this year,
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Speaker 1: I'm definitely having fun, definitely enjoying it, enjoying it definitely.
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Speaker 1: It's enjoying the whole process. You know. I feel like
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Speaker 1: last year COVID kind of took away from the process
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Speaker 1: of football, and I love football it upmost, so getting
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Speaker 1: back to the basics is something that I really enjoy.
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Speaker 1: How is the Urban Meyer process fitting you? There's not
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Speaker 1: many bigger on process of preparing and getting ready for
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Speaker 1: a game than than that. Man, I think it's going
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Speaker 1: pretty great. You know. I love his approach to the game,
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Speaker 1: his his mindset, mentality. You know, he comes from a
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Speaker 1: long lineage of winning and he comes from you know,
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Speaker 1: um dog like mentality players, and that's something I could
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Speaker 1: definitely get into and with. So, you know, the things
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Speaker 1: that he's he's putting into a rotation here and implementing,
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Speaker 1: I'm I'm in love with you. Know. You in college
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Speaker 1: at Miami, you had fifty two starts, the most ever
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Speaker 1: for the University of Miami in a row, didn't miss one.
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Speaker 1: Last season, you missed a bunch of games, and you're
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Speaker 1: on I r for a little bit later in the season.
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Speaker 1: How difficult was that? First of all, you were down
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Speaker 1: the depth chart a little bit earlier in the season.
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Speaker 1: You're rookie coming in to not be on the field
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Speaker 1: a lot, playing special teams, which is certainly important, but
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Speaker 1: that's a totally different word then you have been used
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Speaker 1: to in Miami. Did that take a little while to overcome? Uh?
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Speaker 1: I would say definitely. So, you know, coming from college,
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Speaker 1: coming from high school, coming from middle school, I've never
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Speaker 1: missed the game. So just those fifty two in college
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Speaker 1: where it's definitely an accomplishment. But you know, this is
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Speaker 1: coming to someone who never sat on the bench. You know,
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Speaker 1: even when I came out to field, you know, we're
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Speaker 1: usually going back in for special teams and things of
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Speaker 1: that nature. So you know, but I'm grateful for because
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Speaker 1: I learned a lot about myself. You know, I learned
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Speaker 1: what type of ballplayer I am, what type of man
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Speaker 1: I am, And going going into this year where I
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Speaker 1: have more opportunities, you know, I definitely make the most
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Speaker 1: of them, and I feel like, you know, my impression
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Speaker 1: is definitely being felt. Shack quarterman with us inside linebacker
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Speaker 1: last week preseason Week one, you had the third most
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Speaker 1: defensive snaps of anybody, the most special team snaps ten
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Speaker 1: of those, balancing defensive play and special teams. Last year
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Speaker 1: it was mainly special teams for you. Now it could
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Speaker 1: be a little bit more as things have changed in
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Speaker 1: preseason and training camp. At the linebacker position, thin balance, right,
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Speaker 1: being ready on defense and then boom, you gotta go
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Speaker 1: down on special teams. That's a lot of snaps in
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Speaker 1: one game. How do you balance those two and you
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Speaker 1: have to play both. It's all about preparation, you know,
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Speaker 1: going into even practice, you have to prepare your mind
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Speaker 1: to be able to switch into different pockets, you know,
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Speaker 1: which allows you to win. If you think about it,
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Speaker 1: it's just one, you know, one single fight. You know
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Speaker 1: that can be kind of daunting when you think about
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Speaker 1: the whole thing. But for me, you know, whether it's
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Speaker 1: special teams, whether it's first or second down, third down,
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Speaker 1: my only object is to win. So when you have
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Speaker 1: that mind, say, you know, whatever position they put you in,
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Speaker 1: you know, as long as you have the same goal
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Speaker 1: of winning, you know, you're just out there to compete
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Speaker 1: in and be the best of the best. In my mind.
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Speaker 1: Great conversation today with Shaq quarterman, Jaguars inside linebacker. Hometown
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Speaker 1: guy too, went to Oak Leaf High School in Orange Park,
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Speaker 1: and you'll hear his thoughts a little later in the
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Speaker 1: second hour of Jaguars Happy Hour on playing in his
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Speaker 1: hometown stadium and then of course his rookie season a
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Speaker 1: year ago. He's on the i R a bit late
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Speaker 1: in the season, but I had plenty of special teams times,
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Speaker 1: special teams time last year, and he's looking for a
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Speaker 1: little bit more and the future I think is bright
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Speaker 1: for shock quarterman with the Jacksonville Jaguars. We've got plenty
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Speaker 1: ahead on Jaguars Happy Hour, head coach Urban Meyer and
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Speaker 1: a quarterback Trevor Lawrence, schedule to speak with the media
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Speaker 1: Football Morning in America, a Pro Football Hall of Fame selector,
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Speaker 1: we discussed urban Meyer's transition, Trevor Lawrence and could he
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Speaker 1: it's the great Peter King here at Jaguars training camp
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Speaker 1: preseason week number two. What are your initial impressions of camp?
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Speaker 1: Urban Meyer a few hours in. Well, I think, you know,
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Speaker 1: I had a chance to chat with him a bit
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Speaker 1: uh before the practice we're at right now, and you know, essentially,
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Speaker 1: I think what is interesting for him is that, you know,
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Speaker 1: when he's in college, when he's coaching I think seventeen
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Speaker 1: years in college, there is no rule that says, oh,
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Speaker 1: by the way, on August six, you've got to cut
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Speaker 1: five players, and then on August whatever it is, you've
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Speaker 1: got to cut five more, and then you've got to
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Speaker 1: do this, and you gotta do that, and he goes.
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Speaker 1: I think the big challenge, one of the big challenges
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Speaker 1: is going to be to get to fifty three and
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Speaker 1: to make sure that you protect all those guys and
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Speaker 1: play seventeen games. And he said, it's just, uh, that
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Speaker 1: is a big difference. But he said, I've known that
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Speaker 1: for a long time. And I think his other his
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Speaker 1: other thing that I believe he's tried to do. I
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Speaker 1: think he's really tried to convince his players that, you know,
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Speaker 1: we have to be somewhat of a family. You know.
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Speaker 1: I know everybody says that and and and all that,
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Speaker 1: and what does it mean. Well, it means that, you know,
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Speaker 1: if you're having a personal problem. I think what he has,
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Speaker 1: what he is liked so far, is two or three
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Speaker 1: times players are in one case, I think a player's
19:08
Speaker 1: wife has basically, you know, reached out and said, you know,
19:12
Speaker 1: we need to talk about something. And a modern head coach,
19:18
Speaker 1: you know, like when I started covering the NFL in
19:20
Speaker 1: the mid eighties, Uh, you know, a coach might say, hey, listen,
19:24
Speaker 1: it's football season. The offseason is the time for personal problems,
19:28
Speaker 1: but not now. But he's the kind of guy, and
19:32
Speaker 1: I think that's one of the reasons why he gets
19:33
Speaker 1: along so well with Jimmy Johnson. Jimmy Johnson majored in
19:36
Speaker 1: psychology at Arkansas and Urban knows that dealing with the
19:42
Speaker 1: whole person is a part of being an NFL coach. Today.
19:46
Speaker 1: I talked to Jack's owner's shot con last week, Peter,
19:49
Speaker 1: and I asked him about Urban so far and dealing
19:52
Speaker 1: with him and hearing the messaging that's so consistent from Urban.
19:56
Speaker 1: But he also added that it's the authenticity of it,
19:59
Speaker 1: his tray record of success with it, believability, and he
20:04
Speaker 1: said concept that it just resonates differently than some of
20:07
Speaker 1: the past messages that he's had in coaching staffs and
20:10
Speaker 1: folks here in Jacksonville. And when he's saying that, I
20:14
Speaker 1: tend to believe it, it's it's more than just between
20:16
Speaker 1: the white lines. I think. I think the one thing
20:20
Speaker 1: about Urban, and I mean, look, we have seen a
20:25
Speaker 1: lot of college coaches come into the NFL, and for
20:30
Speaker 1: every Jimmy Johnson, there's a Chip Kelly, you know, there's
20:34
Speaker 1: a There's maybe more there's there's a Steve Spurrier, you know.
20:38
Speaker 1: So honestly, I mean, JP, we just we don't know
20:42
Speaker 1: if it's gonna work. But I do think that in
20:45
Speaker 1: today's football, you need to make sure that you're not
20:49
Speaker 1: just the football coach of the team, that there is
20:54
Speaker 1: a message out there that the players trust that you
20:57
Speaker 1: can give out every day. And I tend to think
21:01
Speaker 1: that if your players trust the coach and trust the
21:04
Speaker 1: coaching staff, you've got a much better chance to win.
21:08
Speaker 1: Today in today's football, Peter King with us from NBC
21:12
Speaker 1: Sports and Football Morning in America. I saw you out
21:15
Speaker 1: on the practice field earlier in the quarterback huddle. Did
21:19
Speaker 1: you hear the snap of the throw from Trevor Lawrence?
21:22
Speaker 1: That's the big question everyone wants an answer. I wish
21:24
Speaker 1: I did, but the problem is music was playing and
21:28
Speaker 1: you couldn't hear yourself. Think I'm just kidding, but the
21:31
Speaker 1: music was too loud and I couldn't hear it. But
21:34
Speaker 1: what I what I really took from it is that
21:39
Speaker 1: ball comes out of his hands so beautifully and almost
21:46
Speaker 1: it's almost effortless. And you know, imagine a Max shr's
21:52
Speaker 1: her fastball and throwing the fastball without even a grimace,
21:57
Speaker 1: you know, And that's kind of what you notice when
22:00
Speaker 1: you're standing right up next to him and watch him throw.
22:04
Speaker 1: That was like probably about a twelve yard out to
22:07
Speaker 1: the sidelines. And look, I think Trevor Lawrence is going
22:12
Speaker 1: to be a really interesting experiment here because you know,
22:15
Speaker 1: we all think it's likely he's going to start the
22:18
Speaker 1: opening game and start this season. But you know, you
22:22
Speaker 1: go to camp to camp, you go from camp to camp,
22:24
Speaker 1: and I mean there's four quarterbacks here who should be
22:30
Speaker 1: on NFL rosters, I mean active rosters. I mean if
22:34
Speaker 1: you think right now, and look, who knows, maybe they
22:38
Speaker 1: end up trading Minshew. I don't know. But if you
22:41
Speaker 1: have to go into a season with C. J. Bethort
22:46
Speaker 1: is your backup, that's pretty good and Jake Luton is
22:48
Speaker 1: your number three, I mean that's that's really pretty good.
22:51
Speaker 1: And so I think they're in a good spot at quarterback,
22:55
Speaker 1: especially uh but again, you know, I think the big
22:59
Speaker 1: is shoot is going to be and it always is
23:02
Speaker 1: if you're gonna play a young quarterback. I mean Peyton
23:06
Speaker 1: Manning through a jillion interceptions when he was a rookie,
23:09
Speaker 1: and you're just gonna have to deal with the growing pains.
23:11
Speaker 1: And I think that, you know, I still really am
23:15
Speaker 1: interested in seeing if urban Meyer is going to do
23:22
Speaker 1: what he says he's going to do, which is I
23:25
Speaker 1: have learned in the run up to this that I
23:30
Speaker 1: need to be able to take losing and I will
23:32
Speaker 1: I'll be able to take it. So we'll see what
23:34
Speaker 1: happens with that. Um. He's an educated, very very smart person,
23:39
Speaker 1: so I don't doubt that he is going to be
23:43
Speaker 1: able to deal with it, but I still want to
23:45
Speaker 1: see it. Also, Peter King with us from NBC Sports
23:48
Speaker 1: Football Morning in America. I love the joke Cullen story,
23:53
Speaker 1: the comeback story of everything that happened in the early
23:56
Speaker 1: two thousand's and he's fought his way back into the
23:58
Speaker 1: league and has been a defendi line coach for a
24:01
Speaker 1: long long time, including three years here in Jacksonville. He
24:04
Speaker 1: now gets his first shot as a defensive coordinator, having
24:09
Speaker 1: Joe Colin finally get an opportunity to call a defense.
24:12
Speaker 1: I think that's a fantastic finish, or at least start
24:15
Speaker 1: to the finish of the story. Hey, look about I
24:19
Speaker 1: think it was eleven years ago I did a long
24:21
Speaker 1: story for Sports Illustrated on Roger Goodell and so one
24:26
Speaker 1: of the things and I looked into how Roger Goodell
24:29
Speaker 1: has been in some ways a father Flannagan figure. I mean,
24:34
Speaker 1: I'm now thinking to myself, well, let's see our listener
24:37
Speaker 1: is gonna have any idea what I'm talking about. Let's
24:39
Speaker 1: just say, a father figure to a lot of a
24:43
Speaker 1: lot of troubled people around the NFL. And look, Joe Colin,
24:46
Speaker 1: there was a chance, um after his misadventures in Detroit,
24:51
Speaker 1: that he was never going to coach in the NFL again.
24:54
Speaker 1: My feeling is that, you know, I think Roger Goodell
24:58
Speaker 1: was really significant in getting Joe Cullen back on track
25:03
Speaker 1: as a person and a coach. And Joe Cullen took
25:06
Speaker 1: that opportunity and it took a decade, but now he's
25:09
Speaker 1: risen to where he should be because look, I have
25:13
Speaker 1: known him for quite a while and I have tremendous
25:16
Speaker 1: respect for him as a coach. And I know John Harbaugh, Uh,
25:22
Speaker 1: Eric to Costa in Baltimore, they loved Joe Cullen and
25:26
Speaker 1: they love the fact he's getting a chance, but they
25:30
Speaker 1: were not happy to lose him at all. And so
25:33
Speaker 1: I think he's one of those stories that I love
25:36
Speaker 1: the fact that Urban Meyer took a shot on him, uh,
25:39
Speaker 1: and I think it's gonna pay off. I think he
25:42
Speaker 1: will improve this defense and I think he's going to Look,
25:46
Speaker 1: there's no question Josh Allen has got to take a step.
25:49
Speaker 1: You know. He they drafted him to be a dominant
25:52
Speaker 1: pass rusher. He's been a nice player so far, he's
25:56
Speaker 1: not been a dominant player. So they drafted him to
25:59
Speaker 1: be a dominant ass rusher and they need him to be.
26:03
Speaker 1: So the way I look at this is you got
26:05
Speaker 1: a guy who knows how to coach edge players, and
26:10
Speaker 1: so that's just like an added bonus. I like, I
26:14
Speaker 1: really like that higher and I think he's gonna have
26:16
Speaker 1: a really good positive effect on this defense. Final thought
26:20
Speaker 1: with you, Peter King, with us from NBC Sports, it
26:24
Speaker 1: seems like the offensive line log jam for the Hall
26:27
Speaker 1: of Fame has broken up a bit. A lot of
26:30
Speaker 1: those guys are in is this Tony Boselli's year. I
26:35
Speaker 1: give up guessing, you know, projecting about the Hall of Fame,
26:39
Speaker 1: because honestly, JP, I'm never right so and I am
26:44
Speaker 1: not the kind of person who calls up the forty
26:47
Speaker 1: any of the forty seven other voters and say, hey,
26:50
Speaker 1: what do you think of the Baselli case. I just,
26:52
Speaker 1: first of all, I'm not a big fan of the
26:54
Speaker 1: politics internal politicking which sometimes goes on. I think we
26:58
Speaker 1: all out of vote our con chances, and which is
27:01
Speaker 1: what I do. I vote the way I think is
27:04
Speaker 1: best and so now it comes to bassellly, and so
27:11
Speaker 1: I feel strongly about his case for a couple of reasons.
27:15
Speaker 1: Um Number one, in the last three or four years,
27:19
Speaker 1: we have elected two players who were great for a
27:24
Speaker 1: short period of time, Terrell Davis and Kenny Easily Easily
27:28
Speaker 1: a safety in Seattle. Davis are running back for the
27:31
Speaker 1: Denver Broncos. And so I believe that Tony Basselli, at
27:39
Speaker 1: the absolute very least, was as good at his position
27:44
Speaker 1: as Davis was at his and I believe he was
27:46
Speaker 1: better a better left tackle than easily was a safety.
27:50
Speaker 1: And there's one other factor in this. He played more
27:53
Speaker 1: NFL games than either of those two guys. So for
27:57
Speaker 1: those who say, hey, you know his career was too short,
28:00
Speaker 1: you know, three time first team All Pro, two times
28:04
Speaker 1: second team All Pro, and he played longer than And again, look,
28:10
Speaker 1: it's unfair to compare to the guys in the thirties, forties, fifties,
28:14
Speaker 1: because many of them said I'm gonna go get a
28:17
Speaker 1: job in the mill. It pays better, So you just
28:19
Speaker 1: can't really necessarily think that. But I think he's got
28:24
Speaker 1: a good shot. But I don't project. I mean, they don't, uh,
28:32
Speaker 1: the odds of him getting in at some point I
28:36
Speaker 1: think are good. The odds of him getting in this year,
28:40
Speaker 1: this this go around, I just I can't project. Peter,
28:45
Speaker 1: Thank you for the insight. Always great to see you.
28:47
Speaker 1: Enjoy the rest of your camp travels, and we look
28:49
Speaker 1: forward to reading you every Monday morning. Hey, thanks a lot.
28:52
Speaker 1: Good luck to the Jags. They're gonna be an absolutely
28:54
Speaker 1: fun chemistry experiment to watch. That's Peter King of NBC
28:59
Speaker 1: Smore Sweet caught up at training camp today. Always an
29:02
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29:06
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29:14
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29:18
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29:23
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33:48
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Speaker 1: have been joining us now and good afternoon to you lone.
33:57
Speaker 1: What's up good, It's all good man. By the way
33:59
Speaker 1: he was talking about Tim Tebow was a question, so
34:03
Speaker 1: I could it kind of morphed into pretty much everybody
34:06
Speaker 1: has to contribute if you're on the bubble. Well, and
34:08
Speaker 1: he was specific about two positions and that you know,
34:11
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34:13
Speaker 1: and to contribute on special teams on your core four,
34:16
Speaker 1: but the wide receiver position, tight end, running back room
34:19
Speaker 1: has to be able to contribute. If you're not a starter,
34:23
Speaker 1: you have to be a somebody that can contribute on
34:26
Speaker 1: special teams. And uh, I found it interesting in that
34:30
Speaker 1: the preseason game Saturday Night, Tim Tebow did not play
34:35
Speaker 1: any special teams. They must have known it obviously going
34:38
Speaker 1: into the game that this is not going as as
34:41
Speaker 1: well as but but but anyway, that's the pages turned
34:45
Speaker 1: and and time to move forward. What do you make
34:47
Speaker 1: of Peter King there? It's some interesting thoughts on urban
34:50
Speaker 1: off the field that dealing with some of the things
34:53
Speaker 1: that UM athletes go through these days. And you know,
34:58
Speaker 1: I found it interesting he used the term this is
35:01
Speaker 1: gonna be an interesting chemistry experiment at the very end.
35:05
Speaker 1: Yeah right, I mean, and that's kind of the thing
35:07
Speaker 1: that stuck out to me, because I mean, this is
35:10
Speaker 1: I don't I wouldn't call this an experiment. I mean
35:12
Speaker 1: this an experiment is something that you're doing something that
35:17
Speaker 1: that is something that hasn't been done before. You're trying
35:20
Speaker 1: to find out what the reaction or what the final
35:24
Speaker 1: situation is going to turn out to be. I don't
35:27
Speaker 1: look at this as an experiment at all. I think
35:30
Speaker 1: that this is something that is it's certainly very measured
35:35
Speaker 1: as far as the decisions that were made to bring
35:37
Speaker 1: in urban Meyer, et cetera. And so I wouldn't agree
35:41
Speaker 1: with Peter King. As much respect as I have for him,
35:44
Speaker 1: I would not use that term in this situation at all.
35:49
Speaker 1: How about the quarterback situation now where the Jacksonville Jaguars.
35:52
Speaker 1: We heard Peter and discussed that a little bit. He
35:54
Speaker 1: was out there. I saw him and walked out there
35:56
Speaker 1: in the middle of a practice field with the four
35:58
Speaker 1: quarterbacks there, and the idea that he had heard urban
36:02
Speaker 1: Meyer had told him, you can hear the snap of
36:03
Speaker 1: the ball at pro day right of coming out of
36:06
Speaker 1: his hands. So he invited Peter back then to hey,
36:09
Speaker 1: come to training camp and hear it for yourself. But
36:11
Speaker 1: the music was too out. Unfortunately today you couldn't really
36:13
Speaker 1: hear all that going on. You don't have to hear it,
36:16
Speaker 1: you can see it. And that was this point. It
36:18
Speaker 1: comes out effortlessly. And I'm curious, Logs what you think
36:23
Speaker 1: about the playing time this week. They haven't officially said
36:26
Speaker 1: anything yet. Erban Meyer is going to talk tomorrow, he
36:28
Speaker 1: might not be fully transparent on it, and even then,
36:32
Speaker 1: so I would expect some more time for the ones, right,
36:35
Speaker 1: including Trevor if he's the starter. Well, I think so,
36:38
Speaker 1: I mean, and I hope that not only do the
36:42
Speaker 1: Jaguars number ones get an extended period of time more
36:46
Speaker 1: than they got against Cleveland, I hope that the New
36:49
Speaker 1: Orleans Saints are doing the same thing. Because Cleveland Browns
36:53
Speaker 1: didn't give you the look that you wanted to have,
36:55
Speaker 1: which was their number one offense was essentially sat down.
37:00
Speaker 1: You'd like to have New Orleans number one offense play
37:02
Speaker 1: and it's an entirety, which you expect that they will
37:04
Speaker 1: because Taysom Hill and Jamis Winston are in a battle
37:07
Speaker 1: for the starting quarterback position. Heated battle, but it's and
37:11
Speaker 1: it's a very even battle. I mean why. I was
37:13
Speaker 1: actually just a little bit ago watching the film, and
37:16
Speaker 1: Taysom Hill had twenty snapped, Jameis Winston had nineteen snaps,
37:20
Speaker 1: and it was pretty even. They both had some good plays,
37:23
Speaker 1: they both had some bad plays, and so you want
37:26
Speaker 1: to be able to get as as good of work
37:28
Speaker 1: as you possibly can against starting caliber competition. So you
37:33
Speaker 1: hope that they can see the number one and and
37:35
Speaker 1: I think that the Jaguars number one offense needs to
37:37
Speaker 1: get more reps. And there are certain players that you
37:41
Speaker 1: might pull out and say, Okay, hey, look, we don't
37:43
Speaker 1: need to see a ton more of him. Even you know,
37:45
Speaker 1: certain guys may get less. Just like Brandon Leonard didn't
37:48
Speaker 1: get much in the first preseason game. They pulled him out.
37:51
Speaker 1: He's a question mark this week. But that's that's the
37:54
Speaker 1: type of player you're talking And I'm talking about certain
37:57
Speaker 1: guys you know about. Certain guys need work. And from
38:00
Speaker 1: an offensive line standpoint, you're not gonna have you're center
38:05
Speaker 1: and Brandon Leonard. You're also not going to have your
38:07
Speaker 1: starting left guard and Andrew Nora. Well, so you're gonna
38:09
Speaker 1: have a couple of backup guys there that you feel
38:12
Speaker 1: really good about. I mean, you feel good about Shatley.
38:14
Speaker 1: And to be honest with you, Ben Bart's played pretty
38:16
Speaker 1: well last week at left guard. Can he can he
38:19
Speaker 1: continue to get better? I think that's that's a question
38:21
Speaker 1: that still needs to be answered. Only one way to
38:23
Speaker 1: find out how to go out there and play well.
38:25
Speaker 1: And you need to play against good players. You know,
38:28
Speaker 1: Cleveland didn't exactly have any of their star pass rushers
38:31
Speaker 1: out there, so you want to see that. But I'm
38:34
Speaker 1: looking forward to the game because it's Monday night football.
38:37
Speaker 1: The lights are bright. Everybody around the league is going
38:40
Speaker 1: to have an opportunity to watch. And I think this
38:43
Speaker 1: also provides another test from the coaching staff slash personnel
38:48
Speaker 1: side that here you get to evaluate guys playing Monday
38:52
Speaker 1: night football. How will they handle something that is a
38:57
Speaker 1: national stage because you want players that can handle it
39:00
Speaker 1: without any kind of issue whatsoever. So it's a great opportunity.
39:04
Speaker 1: It's a great opportunity to evaluate the players under the
39:07
Speaker 1: national spotlight. J IF shadow with Jeff log and when
39:10
Speaker 1: its Jaguar is happy hour. I'm curious your thoughts on
39:13
Speaker 1: the paranoia of NFL coaches, especially in the preseason. How
39:20
Speaker 1: much to show of scheme? What do you want to hide?
39:24
Speaker 1: Urban Meyer asked earlier this week, Well, why can't we
39:27
Speaker 1: show certain things? And you know Schottenheimer and Darryl Bevil
39:32
Speaker 1: have been around the NFL for a while that I
39:34
Speaker 1: think it just depends on the organization you're in at
39:38
Speaker 1: some point though, Logs, football is football, right, but you
39:42
Speaker 1: don't want to show all of your cards. Where's the
39:44
Speaker 1: ballots there? Well, you gotta find that balance because they
39:47
Speaker 1: have to work. You gotta remember, there's a book already
39:51
Speaker 1: out on Daryl Bevil as an offensive coordinator, make no
39:54
Speaker 1: mistake about it. Okay, there's a book out on the
39:57
Speaker 1: Baltimore Ravens defense, which is where Joe Cullen comes from.
40:00
Speaker 1: But that's not the only experience that Joe Cullen has.
40:04
Speaker 1: He's never been a play caller before, So what's the
40:07
Speaker 1: percentages of what is play calls? Maybe Daryl Bevil's never
40:11
Speaker 1: worked with Schottenheimer before, he's never worked for urban Meyer before.
40:17
Speaker 1: So the offense, even though it is Darryl Bevil as
40:20
Speaker 1: the offensive coordinator, there is some input from other people,
40:25
Speaker 1: and there is a blend in a lot of times
40:27
Speaker 1: or a lot of instances, I'm sure of a lot
40:30
Speaker 1: of ideas and concepts, and so there's certain things that
40:34
Speaker 1: you do not want to allow people to see. But
40:37
Speaker 1: there are certain things that are just running the mill plays.
40:41
Speaker 1: And so you're gonna go ahead and you want to
40:43
Speaker 1: be able to execute and get practice utilizing your entire
40:47
Speaker 1: playbook if possible. But I'm sure that there are a
40:51
Speaker 1: couple small chapters that you have over here that you say,
40:55
Speaker 1: you know what, we're not showing that in the preseason
40:57
Speaker 1: off limits, you know. But here I will say about
41:01
Speaker 1: Joe Colin, he ran a bunch of stuff in this
41:04
Speaker 1: game against Cleveland. He ran, he ran corner blitz, he
41:07
Speaker 1: ran safety blitz, he wrought different combinations of linebackers. He
41:12
Speaker 1: was not hesitant to do anything that uh from a
41:17
Speaker 1: pressure standpoint, and he's like, I don't want We're gonna
41:20
Speaker 1: show it, just what we're gonna do. But I'm sure
41:23
Speaker 1: that there are certain other plays that he's not gonna
41:26
Speaker 1: want to show. So there is a balance. And yes,
41:29
Speaker 1: there are certain plays that you don't want to show,
41:32
Speaker 1: but you don't want to sit there and go, you
41:33
Speaker 1: know what, We're not gonna show eighty percent of our
41:35
Speaker 1: playbook because we were new coaches. We're gonna surprise everybody.
41:39
Speaker 1: Now they know what you're gonna use for the most part.
41:42
Speaker 1: But there might be a five or ten percent of
41:45
Speaker 1: that playbook that you do not want to use. Or
41:48
Speaker 1: it's that that part of the playbook is only in
41:50
Speaker 1: certain situations against a certain scheme on offense, and you
41:54
Speaker 1: don't pull it out in general anyway. I mean, after
41:56
Speaker 1: the first two three weeks. You pretty much you've got
42:01
Speaker 1: everything out there on tape anyway of the regular season,
42:03
Speaker 1: I'm saying not really, no, no, that's not necessarily true.
42:09
Speaker 1: I mean, there there are plays, and if you actually
42:12
Speaker 1: watch throughout the regular season, there are plays that they
42:15
Speaker 1: actually hold back. Teams will hold back certain plays a
42:19
Speaker 1: trigger finger and want to play it and do it earlier,
42:22
Speaker 1: but you're holding it for a special occasion, and you will,
42:25
Speaker 1: you will add things to your playbook. It's amazing how
42:29
Speaker 1: sometimes there are additions to the playbook as the season
42:33
Speaker 1: goes along. In the additions, you can guarantee, for the
42:36
Speaker 1: most part, come because of the opponent's success that used
42:40
Speaker 1: in it against you. So, for example, the Jaguars are
42:44
Speaker 1: playing let's say Indianapolis. Indianapolis runs this cool little throwback
42:48
Speaker 1: offensive play that they beat the Jaguars defense on. Darryl
42:52
Speaker 1: Bebba will look at that play and go, that worked.
42:56
Speaker 1: I like it. I've never seen that before, and he
42:58
Speaker 1: adds it to his playbook. Next thing you own, three
43:00
Speaker 1: weeks later, he's using it against Tennessee. I mean, so
43:04
Speaker 1: things like that happen in the league. But there are
43:07
Speaker 1: certain plays that coordinators and special and I'm when I
43:11
Speaker 1: mean coordinators, that's all three phases special teams, offense and
43:14
Speaker 1: defense that they will hold back and not show because
43:18
Speaker 1: they want to use that at some point later in
43:20
Speaker 1: the season. And it's just it's natural. It's like it's
43:23
Speaker 1: like having a secret They view it as a secret weapon. Now, look,
43:27
Speaker 1: can we have the conversation and that coaches put too
43:29
Speaker 1: much importance on the ability of them to have all
43:32
Speaker 1: these secret plays or these plays that are holding back
43:35
Speaker 1: or they're not showing it probably is a little bit o,
43:41
Speaker 1: but yeah, but they like to have it in in
43:46
Speaker 1: their bags, so to speak, to where they can pull
43:47
Speaker 1: it out when they want to. Ever makes you sleep
43:49
Speaker 1: good at night, right, Hey, Look, I like the ability
43:54
Speaker 1: of having some plays that you do hold back, and
43:57
Speaker 1: especially when you have a young quarterback, because nobody knows
44:00
Speaker 1: what this Jaguars offense is gonna really look like, how
44:04
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44:07
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44:11
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44:14
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44:17
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44:21
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44:23
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Speaker 1: Dylan Moses on the active non football injury list. That
49:24
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49:28
Speaker 1: name listed on the reserve COVID nineteen list right now
49:31
Speaker 1: for the Jaguars, knock on wood that that stays the
49:33
Speaker 1: same as the safety from Auburn, Daniel Thomas, came off
49:37
Speaker 1: earlier today. A few others that urban Meyer noted earlier
49:41
Speaker 1: in his week in his press conference just the other day,
49:45
Speaker 1: Brandon Lender with patella tendonitis. The center for the Jaguars,
49:49
Speaker 1: Andrew Norwell has an elbow issue. But he's back on
49:53
Speaker 1: the practice field. That's good sign, but we'll see if
49:55
Speaker 1: he even goes on Monday. And then Trey Herne in
49:58
Speaker 1: the corner with an mc l strain, according to urban
50:01
Speaker 1: Meyer in the preseason. You don't have to have an
50:04
Speaker 1: injury report officially. So that's the latest from the coaches.
50:08
Speaker 1: We can have an injury report all we want, but
50:11
Speaker 1: the coach doesn't have to. But he was. He gave
50:14
Speaker 1: some actual detail and a few of those, which is
50:16
Speaker 1: kind of which is great. I mean that I think
50:18
Speaker 1: I think the fan base loves a coach that I
50:22
Speaker 1: don't want to have, wants you know that you hadn't
50:24
Speaker 1: have to give us all the details, but gives you
50:27
Speaker 1: a general idea. What do you call that being open
50:31
Speaker 1: and honest? I mean as its parents, transparent or whatever
50:34
Speaker 1: you want to call her, as opposed to the opposite
50:36
Speaker 1: end of that spectrum, which is Bill Belichick, which gives
50:40
Speaker 1: you nothing. And uh so, but I I appreciate it.
50:44
Speaker 1: I like it. I mean, you'd like to know about
50:46
Speaker 1: your football team, and when you get information like that,
50:48
Speaker 1: you don't need to know all the specific details, but
50:51
Speaker 1: the general stuff is It's good. Looking at the Jaguars
50:55
Speaker 1: depth chart again this week, there is a four way
51:00
Speaker 1: uh draw at the strong safety spot. Four guys at
51:04
Speaker 1: co number one on the depth chart Josh Jones, Jared Wilson,
51:08
Speaker 1: Rudy Ford, Andre Cisco, we're from Jared Wilson today. Rudy
51:13
Speaker 1: Ford didn't play last week, Josh Jones did, He's been
51:17
Speaker 1: around the league for a little bit. And Andre Cisco
51:19
Speaker 1: the rookie. I think I stepped out and played pretty
51:21
Speaker 1: well last week. Who is leading this right now? In
51:24
Speaker 1: your eyes? Logs? Uh? Well, I mean, if you talk
51:28
Speaker 1: to five different people, you might get, you know, three
51:31
Speaker 1: different opinions. For the most part, I think there are
51:34
Speaker 1: some people that probably like When I say some people,
51:37
Speaker 1: I'm sure some of the staff like to Josh Jones
51:39
Speaker 1: he's physical, he can play in the box, or some
51:43
Speaker 1: that might like Jared Wilson a nice kind of compliment
51:46
Speaker 1: between a guy that can play in the box and
51:48
Speaker 1: also playing space. And he's got a lot of experience.
51:51
Speaker 1: Rudy Ford has played very well in training camp when
51:54
Speaker 1: he's practiced. Cisco has an immense, immense amount of ball
52:00
Speaker 1: skills which is hard to ignore. And so this is
52:05
Speaker 1: gonna be and when when a lot of times when
52:08
Speaker 1: you see co starters or you see somebody that might
52:11
Speaker 1: be at number two on the depth chart, and there's
52:14
Speaker 1: two guys at number two on the depth chart, some
52:16
Speaker 1: of that stuff can be what I call manufactured. You're
52:19
Speaker 1: trying to You're trying to give somebody a kick in
52:22
Speaker 1: a rear end and let him know that, hey, look,
52:24
Speaker 1: you gotta get better because we well, we're gonna put
52:26
Speaker 1: this guy and he's even with you when in reality
52:29
Speaker 1: is not. But this is real. I mean, these guys
52:32
Speaker 1: are all fairly even when it comes to the ability
52:36
Speaker 1: to be a starter. And I would also say that, look,
52:39
Speaker 1: Daniel Thomas could be a consideration. And maybe he's not
52:44
Speaker 1: in that four away tied just because he was on
52:47
Speaker 1: the COVID list, But in reality, Daniel Thomas when he
52:51
Speaker 1: was practicing, he was playing very well. So this is
52:55
Speaker 1: not gonna be an easy decision whatsoever. And I think
52:58
Speaker 1: that there's a couple of different ways they can go.
53:00
Speaker 1: And I think the best part about this the competition
53:04
Speaker 1: that's happening there is making that position better for this team,
53:08
Speaker 1: because guys know, if I don't carry or I don't
53:12
Speaker 1: show my abilities and the opportunities that I have, I'm
53:15
Speaker 1: gonna fall behind. And it makes guys stay on point,
53:18
Speaker 1: and that's a good thing. It makes teams competitive, it
53:21
Speaker 1: makes the team better. Staying at safety. Ray Sean Jenkins
53:24
Speaker 1: came in free agency in this offseason and has really
53:28
Speaker 1: flashed at least a number of times that I've seen
53:31
Speaker 1: in training camp and early in the game Saturday night
53:34
Speaker 1: against the Browns coming up making plays. He's all over
53:38
Speaker 1: the practice field. It feels like I think that other
53:40
Speaker 1: side at safety seems somewhat solidified, though they wouldn't admit
53:44
Speaker 1: that as a coaching staff right now. He's still got
53:46
Speaker 1: a few weeks, but there's no doubts that he's the guy.
53:49
Speaker 1: And and for a couple of reasons. One is playmaking ability.
53:53
Speaker 1: How he closed on the tie end on the brown
53:56
Speaker 1: sidelines and knifed them up down low and the tight
53:59
Speaker 1: end couldn't even come back for the next play because
54:01
Speaker 1: he was physical. He's got great coverage ability, He's got
54:04
Speaker 1: super high energy and leadership. And that's something that it's
54:08
Speaker 1: kind of hard to say. Okay, there's a value in that.
54:11
Speaker 1: It's hard to put a number on that if you
54:13
Speaker 1: were like paying a guy for that type of ability. Uh.
54:17
Speaker 1: I like the way he plays. I like the way
54:19
Speaker 1: he has energy with him with Griffin at the corner spot,
54:23
Speaker 1: you get that whole secondary is going to have plenty
54:25
Speaker 1: of energy with those two guys. Um and Uh. In
54:29
Speaker 1: my opinion, I think those two guys are a big
54:31
Speaker 1: boost for this football team. What a great fine and
54:33
Speaker 1: free agency the both of them. Yeah, and it's the
54:37
Speaker 1: story of Griffin and Jenkins growing up together down in
54:40
Speaker 1: the Tampa area. Well, and I hope, I hope because
54:45
Speaker 1: c J. Henderson doesn't have that energy right now for
54:50
Speaker 1: whatever reason, can these two guys help him find it?
54:56
Speaker 1: I hope so, because these are too great guys to
55:00
Speaker 1: kind of follow their lead. I think c J. Is
55:04
Speaker 1: when he's right out there and playing at a high level.
55:09
Speaker 1: His skill set I think competes with anybody else that's
55:12
Speaker 1: on that roster. There's no question about his skill. Yeah,
55:16
Speaker 1: I mean that that's never been a question, right. You know,
55:19
Speaker 1: the question mark is is he committed to football? Is he?
55:24
Speaker 1: Is he? Okay? I mean we don't know. I mean,
55:26
Speaker 1: that's that's the one thing about it. The one thing.
55:29
Speaker 1: The only thing that we know is that he has talent.
55:33
Speaker 1: There's no question in his talent. Does he have the
55:36
Speaker 1: commitment to be able to excel? And that's not easy
55:41
Speaker 1: because you know, this is not baseball, this is not golf.
55:46
Speaker 1: You can't kind of sort of want to play football.
55:49
Speaker 1: It doesn't work. It doesn't work. You got to be committed.
55:53
Speaker 1: It's there's a level of an intensity and energy that
55:56
Speaker 1: is required to play the game of football. I always said,
56:00
Speaker 1: you know, because I had a had a son and
56:04
Speaker 1: he wanted to play football when he was young. And
56:07
Speaker 1: I mean, and he's he was a big kid, you know.
56:10
Speaker 1: I was like, and he's a man now, but I
56:14
Speaker 1: just remember, yeah, and he but he he wanted to
56:20
Speaker 1: play football one year and then after that he's like,
56:22
Speaker 1: you know, I don't really want to play. And I
56:24
Speaker 1: told him at that point, you can't sort of want
56:26
Speaker 1: to play football, you know. So And I don't know
56:28
Speaker 1: where c J is at, but when you when you
56:31
Speaker 1: when you watch him on the field at times, the excitement,
56:36
Speaker 1: the excitement, the celebration that happens with teammates, I mean,
56:41
Speaker 1: you just I'm not quite seeing it yet. And I
56:44
Speaker 1: hope he can get it back. We'll see that. The
56:47
Speaker 1: next few weeks are big. And he was out there
56:50
Speaker 1: in a good and and nothing look. He had injury,
56:52
Speaker 1: he had time on the COVID list. I mean, I
56:55
Speaker 1: don't know where where it's coming from, but I mean
56:58
Speaker 1: he's been through a lot and hopefully he gets back
57:00
Speaker 1: to where he wants to be. I think that's part
57:01
Speaker 1: of what we heard Peter King talking about with urban Meyer.
57:04
Speaker 1: And it's just a different era of coaching. It's not
57:08
Speaker 1: just between the white lines, and it's not just dealing
57:10
Speaker 1: with it in the off season anymore. It is twelve
57:14
Speaker 1: months a year, three sixty five days. You gotta take
57:17
Speaker 1: care of your guys. Not as much as college though.
57:19
Speaker 1: That's a great thing about coaching and the pros. You know,
57:22
Speaker 1: you're the lack of recruiting. I'm sure urban Meyer is
57:26
Speaker 1: gonna be has enjoyed very much. But you you know,
57:28
Speaker 1: you understand when they reach out to Henderson and go
57:32
Speaker 1: to his house, as the report said, and they confirmed
57:34
Speaker 1: you know there that you understand why players really latch
57:39
Speaker 1: on to urban Meyer and and this coaching staff, and
57:42
Speaker 1: because urban is giving his all to them, not just
57:45
Speaker 1: as football players, but everybody else too. Well. Did you
57:49
Speaker 1: ever did you see the UH interview with the Jaguar
57:55
Speaker 1: strength and conditioning coach. Oh? I did one right before.
58:00
Speaker 1: What's his name again? Um you Anthony Anthony Slegel, And
58:07
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58:12
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58:20
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58:23
Speaker 1: a blank okay, then they're willing to return the favor
58:28
Speaker 1: and commit to you and into your program. And I
58:32
Speaker 1: think that's what what Urban. I think does a really
58:35
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58:37
Speaker 1: I don't know Urban from nothing. We've had some conversation,
58:40
Speaker 1: very brief, but just from watching him and how he
58:44
Speaker 1: interacts with the players, there's a lot of interaction the
58:49
Speaker 1: more so than head coach player stuff that I've seen
58:53
Speaker 1: at other at other times here and and it's good
58:56
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58:58
Speaker 1: about a real quick cam won and that's it. You
59:01
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59:04
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