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Lou Terminello's Take on Jackson Dart's Devastating Injury and More 9-26-26 · OneLegUpAlex Media

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  Speaker 1: Here's your host, Alex Garrett. All right. Well, it's been
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  Speaker 1: a busy week here at One Leg Up Alex Media.
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  Speaker 1: So busy, I haven't even had time to do much
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  Speaker 1: on this podcast because of some taking care of some
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  Speaker 1: health stuff and all that. But we're back on the grid.
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  Speaker 1: And who else to come back on the grid with
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  Speaker 1: but the one and only Lou Terminello. It's Terminello's take
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  Speaker 1: once again.
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  Speaker 2: Hey, Louie. Hey, Alex. I hope you're feeling well.
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  Speaker 3: Thanks for having me. And there's a.
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  Speaker 2: Lot to talk about.
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  Speaker 1: Well, if it's turtleneck weather, you know it's cold out.
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  Speaker 1: We got the Nor'easter going on. But that Nor'easter kind
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  Speaker 1: of blew in earlier this week after the Meadowlands MetLife Stadium.
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  Speaker 1: Giants fans, though they were in L.A., got a big
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  Speaker 1: shock that Jackson Dart injures his knee, tears his knee.
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  Speaker 1: What a devastating play. Let's start there, Louie, on Monday night.
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  Speaker 3: Yeah, the NFL is unforgiving when it comes to injuries.
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  Speaker 2: And that's a huge blow for the Giants this year.
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  Speaker 2: Not so much that they're going to be a Super
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  Speaker 2: Bowl contender or anything like that. Dart needs to play,
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  Speaker 2: get his reps in, and now he's not going to
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  Speaker 2: get the reps for the remaining 15 games. And that hurts.
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  Speaker 1: You see him grabbing his knee and he just had
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  Speaker 1: some really bad luck over the last first couple of
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  Speaker 1: years of his career. This is only his first couple
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  Speaker 1: of years of his career and he's had some bad
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  Speaker 1: luck already.
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  Speaker 2: Yeah. And yeah, it's unfortunate, especially coming off his best
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  Speaker 2: game of his, of his first 14 games against the
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  Speaker 2: Cowboys the week before you want to see how that
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  Speaker 2: would translate into the second game. And obviously the, We
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  Speaker 2: don't want to see anybody get hurt. But Alex, we're
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  Speaker 2: in the second week of the season. We're approaching week three.
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  Speaker 2: We actually started week three on Thursday night with Atlanta
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  Speaker 2: destroying Green Bay, which that was really weird.
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  Speaker 1: We know Penix Jr. had a lot of potential, and
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  Speaker 1: he's finally been able to show it.
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  Speaker 2: But now you have Williams who's injured.
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  Speaker 3: You have Jaden Daniels who's injured.
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  Speaker 2: Donald is coming back tomorrow. He missed basically the first
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  Speaker 2: two games. Um, but in the Giants case, uh, now again, this,
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  Speaker 2: this is not, they're not going to be handed a
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  Speaker 2: Lombardi trophy, but different because they have a, um, a
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  Speaker 2: coach who's gone through quarterback injuries, even with, uh, um,
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  Speaker 2: you know, with Lamar, um, he's had to use Tyler
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  Speaker 2: Hundley a couple of times in the past. And, uh,
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  Speaker 2: If this disaster was going to happen, the Giants have
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  Speaker 2: the right coach to get them through. And again, their
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  Speaker 2: schedule coming up is not a killer. Tennessee at home tomorrow,
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  Speaker 2: they're favored. And then they have Washington.
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  Speaker 1: $ 20 for tickets for that. And I know that's because
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  Speaker 1: of the rain. And it's probably because Dart's not playing. Because,
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  Speaker 1: you know, Dable's return is notable. And so is Salah's
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  Speaker 1: to an extent. But we'll see.
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  Speaker 2: Alex, they almost knocked off the Eagles last week. They
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  Speaker 2: came within 35 seconds, 50 seconds of.
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  Speaker 3: Knocking off the Eagles.
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  Speaker 2: And Alex, the one thing we have learned, talked about
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  Speaker 2: in the past, and I hate to drive it home again.
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  Speaker 2: Nobody knows what's going to happen next week in the NFL.
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  Speaker 2: The Bears score 59 points the first week. They scored
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  Speaker 2: three last week. And it's not that Caleb Williams got
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  Speaker 2: hurt in the first quarter. He got hurt in the
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  Speaker 2: fourth quarter against a very good defense in the Minnesota Vikings.
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  Speaker 2: So it's a week. It sounds so cliche. It's a
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  Speaker 2: week-to-week league. But, Alex, it's a week-to-week league. You don't
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  Speaker 2: know who's going to get hurt. You just don't know.
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  Speaker 2: Are you playing the team at the right time? Because
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  Speaker 2: they might be a little banged up on not playing
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  Speaker 2: so well.
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  Speaker 1: Well, that's really what I thought the Giants were going
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  Speaker 1: to be able to capitalize on because the Rams had
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  Speaker 1: just lost by 20 points in Australia. I didn't know
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  Speaker 1: if they'd be able to recover, but they did recover
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  Speaker 1: on Monday night and they win. And by the way,
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  Speaker 1: They needed to do something because I know there were
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  Speaker 1: a lot of criticism about how they got there 27
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  Speaker 1: hours before. I don't understand that one. And McVay's coaching
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  Speaker 1: was a little lax there. You know, and with Stafford's
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  Speaker 1: retirement buzz now happening and all that, this is a
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  Speaker 1: big year for them, and I think it's a big
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  Speaker 1: year for McVay. So I guess they had to beat
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  Speaker 1: the Giants to prove, hey, there's still a contender here.
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  Speaker 1: I think they are. But just focusing on this Jackson
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  Speaker 1: Dart injury, you're right. Thank God of hardball. But also,
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  Speaker 1: they're saying he's going to try and have a Mahomes-like return, which,
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  Speaker 1: I don't know, it's very risky. That injury did not
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  Speaker 1: look easily returnable, I'll tell you that much.
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  Speaker 2: I would agree with that.
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  Speaker 3: Now, again, he loves to play.
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  Speaker 2: He's a competitor. And that's one of the top things
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  Speaker 2: that we saw in his first 14 games, the.
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  Speaker 3: First 12 last year, and a game and a possession.
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  Speaker 3: of this year. The guy loves to play. He's a competitor.
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  Speaker 2: And I think that's infectious to the rest of the team.
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  Speaker 2: And I think the rest of the team felt that
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  Speaker 2: when he went down, the air went out of the balloon. Alex,
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  Speaker 2: I don't think the Rams played that great the other night.
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  Speaker 2: I'm going to be honest with you. Um, yeah, I
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  Speaker 2: know they were playing without a couple of guys too,
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  Speaker 2: but that's the league. Uh, the one thing I could
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  Speaker 2: tell you, Devante Adams is not over that hill. I mean,
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  Speaker 2: he could still run those patterns and, uh, He's excellent.
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  Speaker 2: Excellent receiver still. Future Hall of Famer. But the Giants
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  Speaker 2: will be okay. Look, Jameis Winston was horrible last week.
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  Speaker 2: And the game plan was not developed for Jameis Winston.
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  Speaker 2: It was developed for Jackson Dart, who runs more, who's
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  Speaker 2: more athletic.
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  Speaker 3: But this week, the game plan.
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  Speaker 2: Is going to be designed... with James Winston as their quarterback.
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  Speaker 2: I don't think it's going to be easy game. You know,
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  Speaker 2: it's that they're two and a half point, three point favorites.
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  Speaker 3: They're at home.
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  Speaker 2: The weather's going to be crummy. They're going to have
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  Speaker 2: to run the football. So I think you'll see a
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  Speaker 2: lot of Scadaboo and Singletary and the Tracy. They have
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  Speaker 2: a great chance to win tomorrow.
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  Speaker 3: You know, that, that's sure.
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  Speaker 1: Now, and look, to be honest with you on Sunday,
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  Speaker 1: I would, and Monday, And really the last couple of
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  Speaker 1: weeks with the MLB playoff race, that's been my focus. Like,
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  Speaker 1: you know, just seeing the Yanks finally clinch, seeing Howie
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  Speaker 1: Rose's final game, that's been on my mind. I mean,
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  Speaker 1: I did check in on week two and I checked
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  Speaker 1: in on the Jets. I don't know if you want
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  Speaker 1: to call it an implosion, but they were up 10.
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  Speaker 1: They lose in overtime. But were you encouraged, even though
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  Speaker 1: they lost by, you know, they gave up that 10-point lead,
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  Speaker 1: are you encouraged by what you're seeing the first two weeks.
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  Speaker 2: In with them? Well, yes and no. I was encouraged because, again,
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  Speaker 2: they looked organized for the second straight week.
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  Speaker 3: Yes, I know at the end of regulation, I would
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  Speaker 3: have called timeout.
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  Speaker 2: Aaron Glenn did not, and he allowed the Packers to
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  Speaker 2: have the opportunity to throw an alley-oop, but Jordan Love
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  Speaker 2: was sacked on the last play of regulation. Kicking off
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  Speaker 2: first or receiving first, really doesn't, you can go either
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  Speaker 2: way on that. The statistics don't show one has an
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  Speaker 2: advantage over the other.
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  Speaker 1: Especially now that one score does not end the game.
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  Speaker 1: You have to actually, yeah.
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  Speaker 2: The only thing is, if you take the ball second,
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  Speaker 2: if you defer, if you go in and toss, you know,
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  Speaker 2: so say if team A scores a touchdown or field goal,
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  Speaker 2: you have the four downs. When you go first, when
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  Speaker 2: you reach the ball first, You may not go for
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  Speaker 2: that fourth down, depending on where you are on the field.
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  Speaker 2: That's the big difference. But I'm not going to kill
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  Speaker 2: them for that. The Jets should have won the game.
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  Speaker 2: They were the better team last week. That 42-43 yard
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  Speaker 2: pass interference call after they went up 17-7.
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  Speaker 3: Oh, I hate that call. Yeah.
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  Speaker 2: They got to change that, Alex. It should be like
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  Speaker 2: the college rule, 15 yards. That's one of two NFL rules,
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  Speaker 2: in my opinion, that they have to change. That one,
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  Speaker 2: I mean, that got the Packers right back in the game,
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  Speaker 2: and they didn't do anything. And it was a ticky-tack
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  Speaker 2: foul anyway.
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  Speaker 1: Yeah, of course.
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  Speaker 2: And the other one, defensive holding, where it could be
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  Speaker 2: third and 19, and.
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  Speaker 3: It's holding, it's five yards and an automatic first down.
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  Speaker 2: Alex, make it 10 yards, but no automatic first downs.
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  Speaker 2: Those two rules drive me crazy. And then the thing
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  Speaker 2: that really lost the game for the Jets, and the
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  Speaker 2: Jets special teams last year were excellent, as bad as
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  Speaker 2: the Jets were last year.
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  Speaker 3: They allowed a 63-yard punt return.
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  Speaker 2: By Scott Moore, which set them up to tie the
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  Speaker 2: game with a tying field goal. Last week was a
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  Speaker 2: Jet loss that anybody who's watched the Jets for the
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  Speaker 2: last 30 years, we've seen that loss before. And that's
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  Speaker 2: the frustrating part for a Jet fan like myself and
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  Speaker 2: for any of the loyal Jet fans that are addicted
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  Speaker 2: to the pain of Jets football right now. And the
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  Speaker 2: roster is better than last year. It is. But they
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  Speaker 2: have a tough game tomorrow. Detroit, in their last 31
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  Speaker 2: home games, has averaged over 32 points a game at home.
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  Speaker 1: I'll tell you what. you what, that was a weird game.
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  Speaker 1: They were at home two weeks ago, and I saw
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  Speaker 1: that game. The Saints took them all the way down
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  Speaker 1: to under a minute in overtime. I mean, when do
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  Speaker 1: we see two minutes in overtime and two minutes in overtime?
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  Speaker 1: We never really see that, so that was a little rare.
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  Speaker 1: But the Lions won. But, yeah, it's going to be
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  Speaker 1: competitive tomorrow. But it's just interesting, as I was talking
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  Speaker 1: about a couple minutes ago, you know, these possession games
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  Speaker 1: now are so different. You could go under a minute now,
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  Speaker 1: it seems like. So it's just one of those things.
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  Speaker 2: They would return the overtime to a 15-minute quarter instead
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  Speaker 2: of 10, especially now that both teams are going to
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  Speaker 2: get the ball no matter what. Right. After the first possession.
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  Speaker 3: So I would like to see that change also.
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  Speaker 1: And you think of all these rule changes, it's to
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  Speaker 1: prevent player injury from being maximized. And yet, you know,
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  Speaker 1: you play these in 10 minutes, they're going to go harder.
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  Speaker 1: They're probably going to get injured a little more likely
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  Speaker 1: in overtime. So I get your point on that too.
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  Speaker 2: It's true.
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  Speaker 1: You're right.
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  Speaker 2: But the league is, the first two weeks have been
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  Speaker 2: very interesting. Tampa 0-2. Tampa losing to Cleveland. Now that
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  Speaker 2: is shocking. I think Todd Bowles is on the hot seat.
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  Speaker 2: He's one of those coaches on the hot seat. He
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  Speaker 2: might be the, he might be fired in season if
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  Speaker 2: they don't turn it around.
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  Speaker 1: Baker Mayfield too. They're hoping to really, you know, go
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  Speaker 1: someplace with him. So we'll see what happens for me.
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  Speaker 1: I mean, the Lee has been a weird start. So,
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  Speaker 1: you know, with the giants not being on a Sunday, so,
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  Speaker 1: Sometimes Zion fans don't focus in on Sunday as much
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  Speaker 1: anymore if they're not on that night. But, you know, hey,
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  Speaker 1: it's here. Week three is here already. I can't believe it.
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  Speaker 1: I guess for me, because of my dad's Bears, I'm
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  Speaker 1: focusing on them a lot, too. Caleb going down. Now,
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  Speaker 1: this whole comparison of how weak Caleb looks because of
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  Speaker 1: a hamstring versus Darter wants to go out there after.
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  Speaker 1: I don't like these comparisons. They're different players, you know?
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  Speaker 1: They really are.
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  Speaker 2: Well, apparently they had to, like, basically... tie down Dart
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  Speaker 2: and then drag him out of his uniform because he
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  Speaker 2: wanted to come back in with the injury. But that's
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  Speaker 2: the mentality that Jackson Dart is.
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  Speaker 3: And I'm not criticizing Williams. Don't get me wrong.
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  Speaker 2: I'm not.
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  Speaker 3: I mean, I'm just focusing on Dart. You know, the,
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  Speaker 3: you know, football.
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  Speaker 1: And also, you know, in the NFC East, the Cowboys
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  Speaker 1: needed a win last week because if they go down 0-2,
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  Speaker 1: that would have been fascinating. But, you know, maybe we're
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  Speaker 1: all even in this NFC East. Finally, we'll have to
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  Speaker 1: see how it goes. Although I don't think the camp
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  Speaker 1: commanders are going to stack up with the other three teams.
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  Speaker 1: I just don't see that happening.
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  Speaker 3: Alex. The NFC East from top to bottom.
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  Speaker 2: I think it's closer than we think. I think, I
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  Speaker 2: still think the Eagles have the best roster.
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  Speaker 3: They pulled out a couple.
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  Speaker 2: Once in the opening game against Washington, and scoring a
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  Speaker 2: winning touchdown in Nashville last week.
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  Speaker 3: I assume they'll play better.
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  Speaker 2: I think they have the best roster, but I don't
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  Speaker 2: think they're going to roll in that division easily. I
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  Speaker 2: could be wrong. The Packers have problems. They should be 0-3,
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  Speaker 2: not 1-2. That's right.
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  Speaker 1: And Jordan Love is good, but I don't know. There's
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  Speaker 1: something to that. There's some issues there.
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  Speaker 2: Now, Go ahead. I'm sorry.
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  Speaker 1: How about on the West Coast? You can tell me,
• 13:47
  Speaker 1: you know, Kirk Cousins is probably the reason why the
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  Speaker 1: Raiders are where they're at right now, and he's seemingly
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  Speaker 1: found his resurgence. But Tom Brady being part of that
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  Speaker 1: organization is changing it. I mean, that's my perspective on it.
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  Speaker 2: Again, I don't know how much of an influence he
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  Speaker 2: has on the organization itself. I think he has some. But,
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  Speaker 2: you know, they played well the first two games. And,
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  Speaker 2: you know, they played in SoFi last week against the Chargers. Now,
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  Speaker 2: of course, Harbaugh is not on our hot seat. No.
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  Speaker 2: Even though they lost three games against the Cardinals and
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  Speaker 2: the Raiders. 99.9% of any analytic formula, any computer, The
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  Speaker 2: Chargers win both those games. And it was terrible.
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  Speaker 3: I mean, it's really how bad they look.
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  Speaker 1: A few times last week. I mean, it's not good.
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  Speaker 2: All right.
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  Speaker 1: And then what else is the NFL? That was what
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  Speaker 1: came to mind because Kirk Cousins is a journeyman. He's
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  Speaker 1: been trying to find his place since the whole Washington area.
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  Speaker 1: He might have found it again. We'll have to see.
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  Speaker 2: All right.
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  Speaker 1: I want to talk about my article real quick called
• 15:05
  Speaker 1: For Pete's Sake, The Mets Finished Last. And I do
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  Speaker 1: believe not re-signing Alonzo led to this collapse this year.
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  Speaker 1: There's no way around it. And maybe David Stearns learns
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  Speaker 1: from this.
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  Speaker 2: I don't know.
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  Speaker 3: Well, I hope David Stearns learns from this.
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  Speaker 1: Alex.
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  Speaker 2: The reason for this Mets season, we could break it down.
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  Speaker 2: We've talked about it. But number one is not re-signing
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  Speaker 2: Pete Alonso, who looks like, depending on what's going to
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  Speaker 2: happen today and tomorrow, the final day of the Major
• 15:35
  Speaker 2: League Baseball season, like he's going to lead the American
• 15:38
  Speaker 2: League in home runs and in RBIs. You can't replace
• 15:42
  Speaker 2: that type of production, and the Mets most certainly have not.
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  Speaker 2: So that's unforgivable. And as you said in your article.
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  Speaker 3: on your blog, it's a fireable offense. Yes, it is.
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  Speaker 3: To me, that's a fireable offense. That is the big thing.
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  Speaker 2: But number two is the poor roster construction that we've
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  Speaker 2: talked about, obviously.
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  Speaker 3: With Simeon at second. And believe me, I'm not dumping
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  Speaker 3: on Simeon. He's a pro.
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  Speaker 2: He's a pro, but he's just not as good as
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  Speaker 2: he was five years ago. He's 36 years old.
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  Speaker 3: But he's a pro in every way, shape or form.
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  Speaker 3: So I'm not bashing him.
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  Speaker 2: And, you know, then the injury factor.
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  Speaker 1: Yeah. You know, Soto, who plays 160 games every year,
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  Speaker 1: played 111.
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  Speaker 2: That means he missed 51 games. Lindor broke his wrist
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  Speaker 2: before spring training, and then hurt his calf. He's been
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  Speaker 2: injured all year. You're going to see a big bounce.
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  Speaker 2: I'm going to predict a big bounce back here from
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  Speaker 2: Lindor if he's healthy next year. Many times, something good
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  Speaker 2: comes out of a disastrous season.
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  Speaker 3: And believe me, I'm not sugarcoating it. Alex, and you
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  Speaker 3: know I'm a Mets guy, this was a disastrous season.
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  Speaker 2: But some good things came of it. A.J. Ewing. Carson
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  Speaker 2: Bench has been terrific. Those four starters that they put in,
• 17:14
  Speaker 2: you know, during the course of the year, McClain, Christian Scott,
• 17:21
  Speaker 2: Tong is pitching here at the end of the season.
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  Speaker 1: Stock was okay for a little bit.
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  Speaker 2: And Zach Thornton. So those six rookies give Mets fans
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  Speaker 2: some hope.
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  Speaker 3: They have some.
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  Speaker 2: Guys in the minor leagues, Jefferson Rojas, who they got–
• 17:38
  Speaker 2: You know, at the trade deadline from the Cubbies. Mitchell Voigt,
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  Speaker 2: a second baseman who played in Class A Brooklyn most
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  Speaker 2: of the year. And then I think at the end
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  Speaker 2: of the last three or four weeks went to Binghamton.
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  Speaker 2: He has a chance to make the team maybe sometimes
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  Speaker 2: next year. And I like that they re-signed Andy Green.
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  Speaker 2: They made him the permanent manager. I think that was
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  Speaker 2: a good move. But again, they got him.
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  Speaker 1: Since they're over the team, he's got the winning record
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  Speaker 1: with them. And he's got them on shape, so we'll
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  Speaker 1: have to see.
• 18:12
  Speaker 2: By the record.
• 18:13
  Speaker 1: I don't want.
• 18:14
  Speaker 2: To be fooled by the record, but he kept them interested.
• 18:19
  Speaker 3: Competitive.
• 18:21
  Speaker 1: Now, I'm sure, I know you're not like this, but
• 18:25
  Speaker 1: Mets fans, I'm sure, are waiting to see what happens
• 18:27
  Speaker 1: down the turnpike because the Phillies are in trouble. And
• 18:31
  Speaker 1: I thought we were going to have a stacked wild
• 18:34
  Speaker 1: card with the Cubs playing the Phillies, and I guess
• 18:37
  Speaker 1: Padres at the time were still in this, but now
• 18:40
  Speaker 1: it all feels shaken on the second to last day
• 18:43
  Speaker 1: of the year. What has happened down in our city
• 18:46
  Speaker 1: of brotherly love, Louie?
• 18:49
  Speaker 3: Well, the Phillies have stopped hitting.
• 18:51
  Speaker 2: They stopped hitting, and really in a lot of the fundamentals,
• 18:56
  Speaker 2: they're shaky. Base running, their bullpen besides Duran is up
• 19:02
  Speaker 2: and down, but most bullpens are up and down. Their
• 19:06
  Speaker 2: starting pitching is good. They got to hang on. And
• 19:09
  Speaker 2: I think they will. I think they will because Arizona
• 19:13
  Speaker 2: is playing San Diego and San Diego wants one more win.
• 19:16
  Speaker 2: So they get the wild card, the two out of
• 19:19
  Speaker 2: three at Petco Park.
• 19:21
  Speaker 3: So I think they'll get in.
• 19:24
  Speaker 2: But they're shaky. They go into the playoffs the shakiest
• 19:27
  Speaker 2: of any national.
• 19:28
  Speaker 1: Probably shakier than the last couple of years.
• 19:30
  Speaker 2: Just shaky.
• 19:31
  Speaker 1: And you know what's interesting to me is You can't
• 19:34
  Speaker 1: say the Dodgers are the best team going into the
• 19:36
  Speaker 1: postseason this year. The Brewers, 101 wins. The first 100-plus,
• 19:41
  Speaker 1: 100-win season for Milwaukee. I mean, they are probably a
• 19:46
  Speaker 1: little more favorite than the Dodgers, although maybe playoff experience
• 19:50
  Speaker 1: negates that. I don't know how that's going to play out,
• 19:51
  Speaker 1: but I do know the Dodgers are not the best
• 19:53
  Speaker 1: team going into it.
• 19:55
  Speaker 2: Yeah. Well, the Dodgers will be favored in Vegas. They,
• 19:58
  Speaker 2: the Dodgers will be favored when the players begin. Now
• 20:03
  Speaker 2: you talk about a hundred win team. I'm going to
• 20:05
  Speaker 2: throw something at you that probably a lot of people
• 20:08
  Speaker 2: don't know. There's one franchise that has never lost 100
• 20:11
  Speaker 2: games in their history. And if they lose today and tomorrow,
• 20:16
  Speaker 2: they will join the other 29 major league teams that
• 20:19
  Speaker 2: have lost 100.
• 20:19
  Speaker 1: Is it Mike Trout's team?
• 20:22
  Speaker 3: Yes.
• 20:23
  Speaker 2: The Los Angeles Angels have never lost 100.
• 20:26
  Speaker 3: Games in their history. And they're at 98 right now.
• 20:31
  Speaker 2: And if they lose today and tomorrow, they will have
• 20:35
  Speaker 2: all 30 major league teams will have lost a hundred
• 20:38
  Speaker 2: games in the season. Just a little tidbit there.
• 20:41
  Speaker 1: Well, our colleague Thurman, who I'm going to shout out,
• 20:44
  Speaker 1: said he'd love that to end the Artie Moreno era
• 20:47
  Speaker 1: because obviously it would be such an indication of how
• 20:51
  Speaker 1: poorly ran he has run that franchise. And look, that's
• 20:54
  Speaker 1: in the storyline of this whole season is teams have
• 20:57
  Speaker 1: been sold this year. The Angels got sold. The Padres
• 21:00
  Speaker 1: got sold. I think the Rays have new ownership or
• 21:03
  Speaker 1: something like that. I mean, Teams have been switching hands,
• 21:05
  Speaker 1: and look what happened up here in the Bronx. Apollo
• 21:08
  Speaker 1: Entertainment Group buying a little more stake in the Yankees.
• 21:12
  Speaker 1: I mean, things are changing, Louie.
• 21:14
  Speaker 3: Things are changing. There's no doubt about it. Yeah, Moreno, he.
• 21:20
  Speaker 2: Just ran him into the ground as a team, but
• 21:24
  Speaker 2: he made so much money when he sold. And how
• 21:28
  Speaker 2: about the Pirates?
• 21:29
  Speaker 1: That's the next thing I want to see get sold,
• 21:30
  Speaker 1: because the way the Pirates have dealt with Paul Skeens,
• 21:33
  Speaker 1: who I don't know. Off year for him, for sure,
• 21:36
  Speaker 1: it seemed like. They have not managed him well at all.
• 21:41
  Speaker 2: Did you hear what he said?
• 21:41
  Speaker 1: I didn't catch that. I know he's been making way.
• 21:45
  Speaker 2: And McLean said this too.
• 21:47
  Speaker 3: Nolan McLean said this too.
• 21:49
  Speaker 2: They both were on Team USA for the World Baseball Classic.
• 21:55
  Speaker 2: And Skeen says having to pitch in a high leverage
• 22:00
  Speaker 2: game that early in March is the reason why his
• 22:02
  Speaker 2: velocity is down. But Nolan McClain said it also affected
• 22:08
  Speaker 2: him a little bit in the early part of the year.
• 22:11
  Speaker 2: And you know I am no fan of the World
• 22:13
  Speaker 2: Baseball Classic.
• 22:14
  Speaker 1: I know you don't.
• 22:15
  Speaker 2: You don't want to throw those things in there. But Alex,
• 22:17
  Speaker 2: I'm going to tell you, if the Pirates were in
• 22:19
  Speaker 2: the American League, they'd be in the playoffs.
• 22:22
  Speaker 1: And you said if the Yankees were in the National League,
• 22:23
  Speaker 1: they'd be out of the playoffs. So that's kind of interesting.
• 22:27
  Speaker 2: If the Yankees were in the National League, they would,
• 22:28
  Speaker 2: let's face it, we knew from Easter Sunday the Yankees
• 22:33
  Speaker 2: were in the playoffs. It's really been an uneventful Yankee season.
• 22:39
  Speaker 2: There was really no drama to it. We knew they
• 22:41
  Speaker 2: were going to be in the playoffs. I think if
• 22:43
  Speaker 2: they were in the National League, it would be like
• 22:46
  Speaker 2: what's going on between the Cubs.
• 22:47
  Speaker 1: So you've got to give Aaron Boone his flowers for
• 22:50
  Speaker 1: managing the way he has without Judge. And the fact
• 22:52
  Speaker 1: they did have 90-plus wins. And, you know, I'm not
• 22:55
  Speaker 1: always a fan of the guy. I come on here
• 22:56
  Speaker 1: and sometimes say whatever.
• 22:59
  Speaker 2: You're the first guy to have him on the chopping block.
• 23:02
  Speaker 1: But no, he's done a really good job navigating this team. Now,
• 23:06
  Speaker 1: a team that did go on the downswing, which, you know,
• 23:09
  Speaker 1: they were in the division route. They were in the
• 23:11
  Speaker 1: divisional lead in the central. And you thought Venable was
• 23:15
  Speaker 1: going to get manager of the year. He still might.
• 23:17
  Speaker 1: But the White Sox settling for third in the wildcard. Like,
• 23:20
  Speaker 1: how did that happen?
• 23:22
  Speaker 2: Well, this is what I got to say.
• 23:24
  Speaker 3: They lost by about 345 games over the last three years.
• 23:29
  Speaker 2: Anything that they did this year is an incredible positive
• 23:34
  Speaker 2: for them, even though they fall in the last couple
• 23:38
  Speaker 2: of weeks. If I was a White Sox fan, I
• 23:43
  Speaker 2: would be so happy of what's happened this year. They
• 23:46
  Speaker 2: can hit the baseball. I'm not sure how they're going
• 23:49
  Speaker 2: to be able to pitch in these playoffs, but no
• 23:51
  Speaker 2: matter what happens to the White Sox, it's been an
• 23:53
  Speaker 2: incredibly successful year for the White Sox.
• 23:58
  Speaker 3: I'd vote for him for manager of the year.
• 24:01
  Speaker 1: They brought in a Japanese player, which they rarely go
• 24:04
  Speaker 1: to the Midwest. They always go to LA or New York.
• 24:06
  Speaker 1: It's very rare they hit the Midwest like that, but
• 24:09
  Speaker 1: Murakami chose Chicago, and look how that changed, first of all.
• 24:12
  Speaker 1: They bring up Montgomery, who has been an incredible addition
• 24:16
  Speaker 1: to that team. He had a homer his first game
• 24:18
  Speaker 1: in or whatever, like to walk it off. I mean,
• 24:20
  Speaker 1: they've made moves this year, and I love the guy
• 24:23
  Speaker 1: Ben Attendee is your veteran presence on that team, for sure.
• 24:27
  Speaker 3: I think going into last night, he had 74 RBIs.
• 24:30
  Speaker 1: I mean....
• 24:33
  Speaker 2: Again, like I said about Simeon, the only thing, he's
• 24:36
  Speaker 2: more productive than Simeon. He's a pro.
• 24:38
  Speaker 3: He's a pro. And you've got to have guys like
• 24:40
  Speaker 3: that on your team.
• 24:41
  Speaker 1: Well, if I'm going to the south side, I might
• 24:43
  Speaker 1: as well go to the other side of Chicago because
• 24:44
  Speaker 1: my dad's Cubs are in it. And I was there
• 24:47
  Speaker 1: about a month ago to see Cubs 150. In their
• 24:50
  Speaker 1: 150th year, they make the postseason. And that's the other
• 24:54
  Speaker 1: part of the Pete's sake I was talking about. PCA, 40-40.
• 24:57
  Speaker 4: And....
• 25:01
  Speaker 1: You don't know what you're trading away five years ago, right?
• 25:03
  Speaker 1: You don't really know. But maybe the Mets keep their
• 25:06
  Speaker 1: prize prospects after seeing what PCA did in Chicago this year.
• 25:10
  Speaker 2: Again, and I think we talked about this the other
• 25:13
  Speaker 2: day off air, Joel Sherman had a great article during
• 25:17
  Speaker 2: the week in the Post, in his column, about teams
• 25:21
  Speaker 2: that traded prospects. And there were some that I didn't know.
• 25:25
  Speaker 2: Jordan Alvarez was traded from the Dodgers to the Astros
• 25:29
  Speaker 2: for a relief pitcher. and Jordan Alvarez is probably going
• 25:35
  Speaker 2: to be the American League MVP this year.
• 25:37
  Speaker 3: So you don't know. You don't know.
• 25:40
  Speaker 2: And at that time, the Mets had an interim general
• 25:45
  Speaker 2: manager in Zach Scott. He was looking to make a
• 25:47
  Speaker 2: splash to get the full-time job. You know, I'm not
• 25:51
  Speaker 2: going to kill the Mets on that one.
• 25:54
  Speaker 3: I'm really not. I'm going to kill the Mets for
• 25:56
  Speaker 3: not re-signing Pete Alonso. I'm sorry.
• 25:58
  Speaker 2: The Mets could.
• 26:00
  Speaker 1: You look at that kid. He's such an exciting player
• 26:01
  Speaker 1: to watch. He runs all over the place.
• 26:04
  Speaker 3: He hits.
• 26:04
  Speaker 1: He feels like a maniac half the time. I mean,
• 26:07
  Speaker 1: and Chicago loves him. And it was his first full year,
• 26:10
  Speaker 1: but they fell in love with him, Louie.
• 26:12
  Speaker 2: Alex, he's the best position player in baseball this year.
• 26:15
  Speaker 3: He's the best position player in baseball, in my opinion.
• 26:19
  Speaker 1: I'm going to fly out there for another event and
• 26:22
  Speaker 1: see his first three home run game.
• 26:23
  Speaker 2: But what are the odds of that?
• 26:24
  Speaker 1: You know, it's like unbelievable.
• 26:26
  Speaker 2: Timing, my dear friend.
• 26:27
  Speaker 3: It's all about timing. And you saw, you saw a
• 26:30
  Speaker 3: great event that day.
• 26:32
  Speaker 1: Well, let me ask you this here in the, here
• 26:35
  Speaker 1: in the Bronx. Well, I'm in Queens, but here in
• 26:37
  Speaker 1: the Bronx, I don't like the tension going on between
• 26:41
  Speaker 1: Boone and judge and the Yankees and judge the messaging
• 26:43
  Speaker 1: of whether he's playing or not. It doesn't look good
• 26:46
  Speaker 1: heading into the post season when your star captain is
• 26:48
  Speaker 1: like Chris, You know, saying everything that the Yanks are,
• 26:51
  Speaker 1: and then the Yanks are fighting with him. It doesn't
• 26:55
  Speaker 1: look good going into the postseason.
• 26:58
  Speaker 3: Well, of course, he's a competitor. He wants to play.
• 27:01
  Speaker 2: He's never, you know, not been gung-ho on playing. When healthy,
• 27:10
  Speaker 2: he's still the best player in the American League. But
• 27:12
  Speaker 2: as we move forward, he's going to be 35 next year.
• 27:16
  Speaker 2: And he's a big man. And he gets hurt a lot.
• 27:19
  Speaker 2: And he's, you know, he's missed a lot of time
• 27:22
  Speaker 2: over his career. I mean, you go back and 40
• 27:24
  Speaker 2: games this year, 45 another year. Even the year of
• 27:29
  Speaker 2: the ridiculous 60-game schedule.
• 27:33
  Speaker 1: Yeah.
• 27:33
  Speaker 2: It's 32 to 60. And he's going to be 35.
• 27:37
  Speaker 2: And Alex, as the old saying goes, father time is undefeated.
• 27:40
  Speaker 2: I know.
• 27:41
  Speaker 1: And we'll talk about that in a second as well.
• 27:44
  Speaker 1: But you also look at what happened after that 2017
• 27:45
  Speaker 1: Home Run Derby. He was out for the next couple
• 27:48
  Speaker 1: of weeks because he screwed up his arm during the
• 27:50
  Speaker 1: whole thing. I mean, that was just.
• 27:54
  Speaker 1: It's frustrating. And of course, he doesn't have a ring yet.
• 27:57
  Speaker 1: And it'd be interesting if they won without him in
• 27:59
  Speaker 1: the postseason. That would be even more interesting of a storyline,
• 28:02
  Speaker 1: to be honest with you.
• 28:05
  Speaker 2: You know how I have been crapping on the American
• 28:07
  Speaker 2: League all year. You know that. And I think even
• 28:10
  Speaker 2: without the judge, I think the Yankees' path to getting
• 28:14
  Speaker 2: to the World Series... It's like a four-lane highway for
• 28:19
  Speaker 2: them and for Tampa. And again, remember at the trade deadline,
• 28:23
  Speaker 2: I criticized Tampa and Milwaukee for not going after Struble
• 28:27
  Speaker 2: and giving up some of their prospects. This was the
• 28:29
  Speaker 2: year Tampa had to do that. I think if they
• 28:32
  Speaker 2: had Struble, I think they would have gotten to the
• 28:37
  Speaker 2: World Series. I really do.
• 28:38
  Speaker 3: I mean, the American League is not as strong right now.
• 28:43
  Speaker 2: And then, and Tampa Bay, even with new ownership, I
• 28:45
  Speaker 2: don't think they're going to end up spending $ 275 million
• 28:48
  Speaker 2: on their payroll. Who knows?
• 28:50
  Speaker 3: Maybe when they get the new stadium in a couple
• 28:51
  Speaker 3: of years, I don't know, but this is it.
• 28:54
  Speaker 2: You've got to see the window of opportunity is now,
• 28:57
  Speaker 2: and you've got to seize that opportunity. That's how I feel.
• 29:00
  Speaker 1: When you're a star player, Chandler Simpson's having the career
• 29:02
  Speaker 1: of his life right now in, in Tampa.
• 29:04
  Speaker 2: All right.
• 29:05
  Speaker 1: This is where I want to ask you about nostalgia
• 29:07
  Speaker 1: because we're going to have an AOA, we're We're going
• 29:10
  Speaker 1: to have an MLB-Lee division winner at or under. 500.
• 29:16
  Speaker 1: When was the last time that happened, Lou Terminello?
• 29:21
  Speaker 2: Tomorrow will probably be the first time. Because if they
• 29:27
  Speaker 2: lose one more game, they'll be under. 500 for sure.
• 29:29
  Speaker 3: Either Texas or Houston.
• 29:31
  Speaker 2: Houston has a disbreaker. Yeah, it will be the first time.
• 29:36
  Speaker 2: Whether it's a division winner or even as a wildcard team.
• 29:42
  Speaker 2: That's just, it's, it's shocking.
• 29:43
  Speaker 1: And I think what they have to do in this
• 29:45
  Speaker 1: new bargaining agreement and say, we're not going to rank
• 29:48
  Speaker 1: these things by record, by, by division winners. You have
• 29:51
  Speaker 1: to go by record the Yankees and, and raise, if
• 29:54
  Speaker 1: you're going to do this right, should have the buy
• 29:56
  Speaker 1: weeks because they had the buy rounds because they had
• 29:58
  Speaker 1: the best records. Looking at this right now and seeing
• 30:03
  Speaker 1: a team is ranked higher than the Yankees at 79
• 30:08
  Speaker 1: and 81 is just hilarious to me.
• 30:12
  Speaker 2: Well, this is what I think they should do. I
• 30:15
  Speaker 2: know they want to keep the division winners and give
• 30:17
  Speaker 2: them what division winners get no matter what their record is,
• 30:20
  Speaker 2: but they're not receding. So the Boston Yankee winner is
• 30:26
  Speaker 2: going to play Tampa.
• 30:28
  Speaker 3: That's wrong.
• 30:29
  Speaker 2: Tampa should be playing, let's say, Houston. They should be
• 30:34
  Speaker 2: playing Houston. And the Boston Yankee winner should be playing
• 30:38
  Speaker 2: either the White Sox or Cleveland. The Yankees or Boston
• 30:44
  Speaker 2: should be playing Tampa Bay next after this two-out-of-three wild card.
• 30:48
  Speaker 2: That's what they really got to fix.
• 30:51
  Speaker 1: You're saying right now, instead of playing... So the number
• 30:54
  Speaker 1: one should really play the last of the... like the
• 30:59
  Speaker 1: sixth place or whatever you want to say of that.
• 31:01
  Speaker 1: I got what you're saying. Yeah. In other words, I
• 31:05
  Speaker 1: get what you're saying on that. So like, if it
• 31:08
  Speaker 1: was your way, the Yanks would then go and fly
• 31:12
  Speaker 1: to either Chicago or Cleveland. Right.
• 31:15
  Speaker 2: And Tampa Bay would play, would play, say, would play
• 31:19
  Speaker 2: Houston with Texas.
• 31:20
  Speaker 1: I don't think Houston survives a three game series, by
• 31:22
  Speaker 1: the way, if they make the post season as a
• 31:24
  Speaker 1: division winner, they are going to lose in the wild card.
• 31:26
  Speaker 1: I just see that happening.
• 31:27
  Speaker 2: I think you're right.
• 31:28
  Speaker 3: Even though anything can happen in two out of three,
• 31:30
  Speaker 3: we know that.
• 31:31
  Speaker 1: But they just don't have the makeup that they used
• 31:34
  Speaker 1: to have. I don't know if things have changed there.
• 31:36
  Speaker 2: Absolutely right. They don't have the makeup. They don't have
• 31:38
  Speaker 2: the players that they used to have.
• 31:39
  Speaker 1: Now, we're talking about tough football guys like Jackson Dart.
• 31:42
  Speaker 1: Bregman takes a foul ball to the face and he's
• 31:45
  Speaker 1: back in the lineup yesterday.
• 31:46
  Speaker 2: I was out and I came home and I turned
• 31:49
  Speaker 2: the game on and I saw him on deck.
• 31:51
  Speaker 1: That's a hockey mentality right there.
• 31:54
  Speaker 2: Absolutely.
• 31:56
  Speaker 3: And speaking of hockey, it opens up in a couple
• 31:58
  Speaker 3: of days.
• 32:00
  Speaker 2: And I'm really interested in seeing what the final makeup
• 32:03
  Speaker 2: of these rosters of the three area teams, who gets.
• 32:06
  Speaker 3: Cut, who stays.
• 32:08
  Speaker 2: We talked about this, so I want to say that
• 32:10
  Speaker 2: we were.
• 32:11
  Speaker 3: Out in front of this.
• 32:12
  Speaker 2: This Albert Smith, who the Dodgers picked number five overall
• 32:18
  Speaker 2: from Latvia. We said then he might make the team
• 32:22
  Speaker 2: coming out of camp. And it looks like he has
• 32:24
  Speaker 2: a chance to make the team coming out of the camp.
• 32:26
  Speaker 2: So we'll know that I guess today or tomorrow.
• 32:29
  Speaker 1: And you said that on draft night, he has a chance.
• 32:31
  Speaker 2: I said that on draft night. And if he, if
• 32:35
  Speaker 2: he doesn't come up, if he doesn't start the season
• 32:38
  Speaker 2: with them, I bet he's, he comes up by American Thanksgiving.
• 32:44
  Speaker 1: Yeah. Now I know, I know it's not exciting news
• 32:49
  Speaker 1: or moves or whatever, but the Rangers did improve this offseason,
• 32:53
  Speaker 1: and I got to give Darius Flowers for that a
• 32:55
  Speaker 1: little bit. I think he did some moves, but it's
• 32:58
  Speaker 1: going to still be a process for the Rangers, will
• 33:00
  Speaker 1: it not? I mean, I feel like it's going to be.
• 33:03
  Speaker 2: Remember, the Rangers are going to be able to steal
• 33:06
  Speaker 2: some games because they have as good a goalie as
• 33:09
  Speaker 2: you could want in a National Hockey League in Sturgeon.
• 33:14
  Speaker 3: They'll be good.
• 33:16
  Speaker 2: I'm interested to see how, if the Islanders will finally,
• 33:20
  Speaker 2: after 10, 11 years, finally improve the power play, which
• 33:25
  Speaker 2: basically kept them out of the playoffs last year and
• 33:28
  Speaker 2: the year before, and probably cost them a chance to
• 33:30
  Speaker 2: win the Stanley Cup five years ago against Tampa.
• 33:36
  Speaker 1: That conference series is like still a.
• 33:38
  Speaker 2: Oh, that's a horror.
• 33:39
  Speaker 3: I mean, if they had one game seven there, well,
• 33:42
  Speaker 3: that was five years ago.
• 33:44
  Speaker 2: Um, and devils is Sheldon Keefe going to be the first,
• 33:48
  Speaker 2: I think he's, he's on the hot seat from the
• 33:49
  Speaker 2: beginning of the year. Um, is he going to be
• 33:52
  Speaker 2: the first coach fired? Is he going to turn it around? Uh,
• 33:57
  Speaker 2: what they're going to do about their goaltending? Are they
• 34:00
  Speaker 2: going to make, are going.
• 34:00
  Speaker 3: To try trade to, uh, uh, make up, make their
• 34:04
  Speaker 3: goaltending better.
• 34:06
  Speaker 2: Um, Connor Hellebuck is still suspended. He didn't report to Winnipeg.
• 34:10
  Speaker 2: Is he going to get traded before opening night? Is
• 34:12
  Speaker 2: he going to get traded in the first week of
• 34:13
  Speaker 2: the season? The first month of the season? Is he
• 34:16
  Speaker 2: going to sit out the whole season? Because he's got
• 34:19
  Speaker 2: three years left on his deal with Winnipeg. That makes
• 34:22
  Speaker 2: it very interesting. So I'm looking forward to the season.
• 34:25
  Speaker 2: It's just jumped on us starting September 28th. But I'm
• 34:29
  Speaker 2: really looking forward to the beginning of the NHL season.
• 34:34
  Speaker 2: Dylan Parkin still hasn't been traded. The Red Wings took
• 34:38
  Speaker 2: away his captaincy, and that was the right thing to do.
• 34:40
  Speaker 3: He has to be traded. He can't come back and
• 34:42
  Speaker 3: be captain. That's a different thing.
• 34:47
  Speaker 1: Well, let's stay in Detroit, because you mentioned Father Time
• 34:49
  Speaker 1: just a couple minutes ago. And he did a brief
• 34:52
  Speaker 1: stint with the Mets. But what a career for Verlander.
• 34:55
  Speaker 1: It's ending this weekend. And I look at the trajectory
• 34:59
  Speaker 1: we're going on. Kershaw last year, Verlander this year. Come on.
• 35:05
  Speaker 1: father time, give the Yanks Cole for another year or two,
• 35:08
  Speaker 1: at least, you know, like, I don't know, but his
• 35:11
  Speaker 1: time will come soon.
• 35:12
  Speaker 2: But yes, Cole is Cole is still, it's still ready.
• 35:15
  Speaker 2: He's still good.
• 35:17
  Speaker 1: Verlander calling it.
• 35:18
  Speaker 2: Yeah.
• 35:19
  Speaker 3: Verlander Scherzer Kershaw.
• 35:22
  Speaker 2: Once those guys, the way pitching is done nowadays, we're
• 35:27
  Speaker 2: not going to see guys like that.
• 35:28
  Speaker 1: Well, Scherzer, you know, people aren't really paying attention. He
• 35:31
  Speaker 1: broke some records this year. He passed Walter Johnson on
• 35:34
  Speaker 1: the all-time strikeout list 25 years after Roger Clemens passed
• 35:38
  Speaker 1: him in 2001. Just thought you'd like to have that
• 35:41
  Speaker 1: little side note because I was there the day he
• 35:43
  Speaker 1: passed Walter Johnson. But Scherzer made some records. Toronto is
• 35:48
  Speaker 1: such a very interesting team because here they are out
• 35:51
  Speaker 1: of the postseason after they just were a play call
• 35:56
  Speaker 1: at the plate away from winning the World Series. And
• 35:59
  Speaker 1: Schneider will still keep his job, I think, but next year,
• 36:03
  Speaker 1: the heat's going to be on his seat, isn't it?
• 36:05
  Speaker 2: No doubt about it. His seat will be hot. The
• 36:07
  Speaker 2: teams that really disappointed the major league baseball, of course
• 36:10
  Speaker 2: the Mets, but I think the rest of them are
• 36:13
  Speaker 2: in the American.
• 36:13
  Speaker 3: League, Seattle, Toronto, Detroit, even Kansas city. You know, uh,
• 36:21
  Speaker 3: they've lost, they lost what? 94 games.
• 36:24
  Speaker 2: Many people pick them to win the division. And, uh,
• 36:29
  Speaker 2: they've been really out of it all year. So there's
• 36:32
  Speaker 2: some disappointing themes. I think we might see early next
• 36:37
  Speaker 2: week some managers get fired.
• 36:39
  Speaker 1: And if this expansion thing happens, we might see realignment.
• 36:41
  Speaker 1: I know you've been talking about that for a long time,
• 36:43
  Speaker 1: so we'll have to see how that goes. All right.
• 36:45
  Speaker 1: We mentioned Canada, and I can't go without saying the Bills.
• 36:49
  Speaker 1: I mean, Buffalo opening up high marks, a stadium and
• 36:53
  Speaker 1: all that. They should win the AFC, right?
• 36:57
  Speaker 3: Is it theirs? East, for sure.
• 37:01
  Speaker 2: They're going to win the AFC East, I think, unless
• 37:04
  Speaker 2: Allen gets hurt, the most indispensable player in the NFL,
• 37:07
  Speaker 2: in my opinion. Yeah, and they have as good a
• 37:12
  Speaker 2: chance to get to the Super Bowl as anybody.
• 37:15
  Speaker 1: Mahomes did on Monday night or a couple weeks ago,
• 37:20
  Speaker 1: and they look pretty returned. We could be heading to
• 37:24
  Speaker 1: that next rematch again in the AFC Championship.
• 37:26
  Speaker 2: It's unbelievable. We might. It really is. Now, you were
• 37:32
  Speaker 2: talking about the National.
• 37:34
  Speaker 3: I'm sure you were talking about what you were talking about.
• 37:37
  Speaker 2: Yes, that's it. Now, the Bills get about 20% of
• 37:39
  Speaker 2: their business from Canada, their fans. And, you know, they
• 37:44
  Speaker 2: did it on opening day. They're not doing it tomorrow,
• 37:47
  Speaker 2: I don't believe, when they play the Chargers. And, boy,
• 37:50
  Speaker 2: we're a tough spot for the 0-2 Chargers to try
• 37:52
  Speaker 2: to get their first win in Buffalo. But the Buffalo Sabres,
• 37:56
  Speaker 2: since they came into the league in 1970, whether they're
• 37:59
  Speaker 2: playing a Canadian franchise or the Rangers, Islanders, or Devils,
• 38:05
  Speaker 2: or any American team, they play the Canadian National Anthem
• 38:08
  Speaker 2: and American National Anthem before every game because a lot
• 38:12
  Speaker 2: of their cha-ching, fans buying tickets and apparel and hot
• 38:18
  Speaker 2: dogs when they get there come from Ontario.
• 38:21
  Speaker 1: And it just makes sense why they used to play
• 38:22
  Speaker 1: some of those Bills games up in in uh the
• 38:26
  Speaker 1: rogers center for for a couple times there i think
• 38:28
  Speaker 1: they played the jets up there actually at least once
• 38:30
  Speaker 1: so um yeah so it'll be an interesting year maybe
• 38:37
  Speaker 1: the jets won't be in the wildcard positioning i don't
• 38:39
  Speaker 1: know yet we'll have to see how that goes but
• 38:42
  Speaker 1: i would.
• 38:42
  Speaker 2: Be very happy if what you just said is true
• 38:44
  Speaker 2: i don't see it one last.
• 38:46
  Speaker 1: Thing before i let you go today and we can
• 38:48
  Speaker 1: go Because there are so many other things. Ole Miss
• 38:50
  Speaker 1: beating Kiffin on his return. I loved that last week.
• 38:54
  Speaker 1: College football has actually been very good. It's been very entertaining.
• 38:57
  Speaker 1: These Saturday night games. Chris Fowler doing that Texas game.
• 39:02
  Speaker 1: Then call the men's final the next day. I love
• 39:04
  Speaker 1: that kind of stuff. And I think we've got to
• 39:07
  Speaker 1: call it minor league football at this point. I think
• 39:09
  Speaker 1: we've got to do something like that.
• 39:11
  Speaker 2: Not a doubt. It's triple A.
• 39:14
  Speaker 3: Have you wanted, whatever you want to say.
• 39:16
  Speaker 1: Teams are today at Tennessee versus Texas. I don't know
• 39:19
  Speaker 1: if you saw that or not, but they're, they have
• 39:21
  Speaker 1: scouts out there probably for arch, So we'll have to see.
• 39:27
  Speaker 1: But are you going to leave here at about 2.30
• 39:30
  Speaker 1: in the afternoon after we're done on our podcast and
• 39:33
  Speaker 1: go on the standby line for Jalen Brunson tonight? Is
• 39:35
  Speaker 1: that your next plan, Louie, for SNL?
• 39:38
  Speaker 3: Uh, no, I will not be doing that.
• 39:42
  Speaker 2: I won't even turn on SNL tonight. Not because Jalen
• 39:45
  Speaker 2: Brunson on, I just haven't watched SNL. And you know,
• 39:49
  Speaker 2: it's an iconic show. I haven't watched SNL for years.
• 39:52
  Speaker 1: And I'm sure all the Knicks are going to be
• 39:54
  Speaker 1: on there at some point during the show, right? It's
• 39:55
  Speaker 1: probably going to be engineered that way. So.
• 39:59
  Speaker 2: They'll probably some of his teammates on tonight. Yes, definitely. Josh.
• 40:02
  Speaker 1: Cause actually Josh Hart's a character and, uh, towns is too. Um,
• 40:07
  Speaker 1: I met Towns in July. Nicest guy possible. So it's good.
• 40:11
  Speaker 1: He was a good guy. So I'm sure he'll be
• 40:13
  Speaker 1: on there. And then the banner raising is in less
• 40:15
  Speaker 1: than 24 days. I don't know how fast time's flying.
• 40:19
  Speaker 2: It's unbelievable. It's just like they, it's, it just seems
• 40:22
  Speaker 2: like they beat San Antonio yesterday in game five.
• 40:26
  Speaker 1: That is true.
• 40:26
  Speaker 2: All right, Louie.
• 40:28
  Speaker 1: Well, we'll have to see what happens with that tonight.
• 40:32
  Speaker 1: We'll have to see what happens with Notre Dame. I
• 40:34
  Speaker 1: know they're on plane Purdue right now. So, I'm going
• 40:37
  Speaker 1: to tune into that. Hey, 3-0 for Marcus Freeman. I
• 40:39
  Speaker 1: like that start for them. So we'll see.
• 40:42
  Speaker 3: Have a chance to win a national championship.
• 40:44
  Speaker 2: I do.
• 40:45
  Speaker 1: And maybe if they do as an independent, that would
• 40:47
  Speaker 1: be fantastic. I know you've been pushing them for getting
• 40:50
  Speaker 1: to a league finally because what do they play? They
• 40:52
  Speaker 1: play the ACC most weeks.
• 40:54
  Speaker 2: They got it. But whatever.
• 41:00
  Speaker 3: We'll see.
• 41:00
  Speaker 2: All right.
• 41:01
  Speaker 1: Well, it is turtleneck weather. It's postseason baseball weather. Stay
• 41:04
  Speaker 1: warm today, Louie. This Nor'easter's here. And I'm not going anywhere.
• 41:08
  Speaker 1: I'm just going to plop on the TV and watch
• 41:11
  Speaker 1: some football today.
• 41:12
  Speaker 2: Those are the best days, Alex, when the weather's like this,
• 41:15
  Speaker 2: on the sofa, just a little light blanket on, going
• 41:20
  Speaker 2: from one game to another game, one sport to another sport.
• 41:24
  Speaker 3: Nothing's better than that.
• 41:26
  Speaker 1: And I guess we should say, before we wrap up,
• 41:28
  Speaker 1: Howie Rose's last game was last week. I'm sure you
• 41:30
  Speaker 1: heard every minute of his final call and final sign-off.
• 41:34
  Speaker 1: To watch him so emotional in the booth in person is...
• 41:37
  Speaker 1: It was special. And so what is your takeaway? And
• 41:41
  Speaker 1: I did put in that story, Howie Rose's call, because
• 41:45
  Speaker 1: everybody has to hear that home run call by him,
• 41:47
  Speaker 1: Pete Alonzo, as you said.
• 41:48
  Speaker 4: As I said, the night he hit it and we
• 41:53
  Speaker 4: talked and me, you and Ryan talked, Pagano, anybody who
• 41:58
  Speaker 4: wants to be a bit play-by-play guy and wants to
• 42:02
  Speaker 4: learn how to do a dramatic during those dramatic situations.
• 42:06
  Speaker 3: Listen to that call drama. He set it up right.
• 42:10
  Speaker 3: And he, and he called every detail.
• 42:14
  Speaker 2: I hope he's not the last of the old style,
• 42:17
  Speaker 2: great baseball announcers. I love that. How he rose Bob Murphy,
• 42:23
  Speaker 2: Lindsay Nelson, Frank Messer type of style.
• 42:29
  Speaker 1: You would give me details that you didn't know about
• 42:31
  Speaker 1: during the game. Like last week, he was on Stephon
• 42:34
  Speaker 1: Manteau because he's linked up forever with that call. I
• 42:37
  Speaker 1: didn't know Manteau played baseball, but he mentioned it, and
• 42:39
  Speaker 1: that's how I found out because Lowry Rose mentioned that
• 42:42
  Speaker 1: little factoid, you know? So, and personally, as a mentor
• 42:46
  Speaker 1: and as a friend and getting to see him the
• 42:49
  Speaker 1: last day, I mean, that was very special that he
• 42:51
  Speaker 1: stopped for a second after his final call.
• 42:54
  Speaker 2: Most famous Queens college graduates.
• 42:58
  Speaker 3: Howie Rose and Alex Garrett.
• 43:01
  Speaker 1: I'll put that in the promo reel for Queens College,
• 43:04
  Speaker 1: all right?
• 43:05
  Speaker 2: Absolutely. I think you should.
• 43:06
  Speaker 1: Lou Terminello, always a pleasure, my friend. And we're back
• 43:10
  Speaker 1: on YouTube. How about that?
• 43:12
  Speaker 2: That makes me happy. That's great.
• 43:15
  Speaker 3: Alex, thank you so much for having me on as usual.
• 43:18
  Speaker 2: I appreciate it.
• 43:19
  Speaker 1: All right, Terminello's take. One look up Alex Media for
• 43:21
  Speaker 1: the weekend of September 26th. And CeCe's number is retired,
• 43:25
  Speaker 1: whether anybody was there or not. He's in the... 24th
• 43:28
  Speaker 1: player now. So we'll get to that next.
• 43:29
  Speaker 2: Week, Louie.
• 43:30
  Speaker 3: Okay.
• 43:32
  Speaker 2: Take care.
• 43:33
  Speaker 1: Take care. And that is Terminals Take.