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- 0:07Speaker 1: Yep, it's it's official. I get I get another goat
- 0:10Speaker 1: on the on the pod. Here, I am Cam Jordan
- 0:12Speaker 1: off the Edge with me, your host, Cam Jordan, and
- 0:15Speaker 1: I'm sitting next to a Hall of Famer, a Heisman
- 0:17Speaker 1: Trophy winner, an NFL mvy B, a ten time pro bowler,
- 0:21Speaker 1: six time All Pro, the man who was iconic in Detroit,
- 0:24Speaker 1: a nineteen ninety seven NFL VP MVP, NFL's fourth all
- 0:29Speaker 1: time leading rusher, talking about the man, the myth, the
- 0:32Speaker 1: obvious legend who's in flesh. Barry Sanders, appreciate you coming by.
- 0:37Speaker 2: It's good to see you, man. It's always good to
- 0:39Speaker 2: see you.
- 0:39Speaker 1: It's like I just saw someone saying it seems like that.
- 0:42Speaker 1: It seems like you saw saw yesterday the day before.
- 0:45Speaker 1: I like Super Bowl because I got I'm walking away
- 0:46Speaker 1: in you.
- 0:47Speaker 2: I'm glad i'm seeing you, you know, sort of on
- 0:49Speaker 2: this this this field right here. You know, I'm glad
- 0:51Speaker 2: I'm not I'm not heeling me now. Yeah, yeah, yeah, yeah,
- 0:53Speaker 2: I'm glad I'm not seeing you.
- 0:53Speaker 3: I'm not.
- 0:54Speaker 2: I'm glad I'm not seeing on the turf.
- 0:55Speaker 3: Man.
- 0:56Speaker 2: I'm glad I'm not seing you out there.
- 0:57Speaker 1: Hey, especially when you played in the show, like all
- 1:00Speaker 1: they had was you, you know, they had they have
- 1:02Speaker 1: some guys. But in terms of Hall of Fame type players.
- 1:05Speaker 2: I can't complain, man, I think complaining, you know, I
- 1:07Speaker 2: think complaining.
- 1:08Speaker 1: I mean, is is there a current or former player
- 1:11Speaker 1: that you bumped into this week that you like, I
- 1:13Speaker 1: didn't expect to see you today.
- 1:15Speaker 2: I mean, it's always good to see like all the guys,
- 1:18Speaker 2: you know. I mean, there's there's so many current and
- 1:20Speaker 2: former players. I love seeing Roder Craig going to the Hall. Honestly,
- 1:26Speaker 2: I love seeing that.
- 1:27Speaker 1: Ye look, I had to look him up because it
- 1:30Speaker 1: was just yeah, it's just out of my perimeter.
- 1:32Speaker 2: Man. He was awesome, awesome player, awesome, just versatile player.
- 1:35Speaker 2: You know, he's like he was like a Christ McCaffrey.
- 1:37Speaker 2: You know, he could he could catch it out the backfield.
- 1:39Speaker 2: I like him. Yeah, you can hand it off to him.
- 1:42Speaker 2: I mean, you know, just versatile. And he was right
- 1:45Speaker 2: in the middle of all that Niners dynasty. And there's
- 1:48Speaker 2: so many great players on that team. It's hard to
- 1:50Speaker 2: it's hard to put them all in the Hall. But
- 1:51Speaker 2: he's very deserving. I love seeing that.
- 1:53Speaker 1: Yeah, gotta be excited. I mean, I was just excited
- 1:56Speaker 1: for Drew Brees. I was just too excited for.
- 2:00Speaker 2: He finished to first.
- 2:02Speaker 1: Yeah, absolutely, I mean you know said get the hundreds.
- 2:06Speaker 1: There's a lot of things. It was like he was like,
- 2:10Speaker 1: you know, maybe we should have levels to the Hall
- 2:13Speaker 1: of Fame whatever, Like my goal should be different, you know,
- 2:16Speaker 1: like there is there is the first ballot of conversation going.
- 2:19Speaker 2: He knows, he knows he would be in that very
- 2:21Speaker 2: very elite class.
- 2:22Speaker 1: Yeah, exactly, you Hill, Drew, Peyton Manning, you know guys
- 2:27Speaker 1: that you know are consistent first ballot Hall of famers. Well,
- 2:30Speaker 1: in my mind, is there for running backs? Is there
- 2:33Speaker 1: like a stat that means you're Hall of Fame worthy?
- 2:35Speaker 1: Of course you'd have you know, ten thousand yards or
- 2:37Speaker 1: whatever that is. But what what tells you hall of
- 2:39Speaker 1: Fame worthy running back?
- 2:41Speaker 3: Well?
- 2:41Speaker 2: I think you know, you always have the eye test, right.
- 2:46Speaker 1: Was his thousand yards of real tis?
- 2:48Speaker 2: Yeah, it was. It was, you know, the eye test.
- 2:50Speaker 2: And I think and I think sort of consistency.
- 2:53Speaker 1: Yeah, you know, and and because it is in terms
- 2:56Speaker 1: of production over the Spanish person, Yeah, production over the
- 2:59Speaker 1: span of your career, you know, and obviously you know,
- 3:02Speaker 1: yards and number of yards and yards per carry, but
- 3:06Speaker 1: I think production eye test, you know, and in the
- 3:11Speaker 1: number of yards that you end up with when your
- 3:13Speaker 1: peers know you were when.
- 3:14Speaker 2: The guys you played against. Yeah, understand that.
- 3:17Speaker 1: It's not the it's not the whole pro it's not
- 3:18Speaker 1: the like Pro Bowl fan vote, all Pro writers, right,
- 3:21Speaker 1: but your your peers, no, especially you know, Miles geargets
- 3:26Speaker 1: tweety three sacks in the season. Guess what, He's the
- 3:28Speaker 1: greatest greatest pass rusher of all times until somebody breaks
- 3:31Speaker 1: breaks his record. You know, Barry.
- 3:34Speaker 2: Sanders is the greatest of all time.
- 3:37Speaker 1: I mean that you're gonna put him at do you
- 3:39Speaker 1: know the season? This is the season you're able to
- 3:41Speaker 1: put together.
- 3:42Speaker 2: I played against Reggie Reggie White, sure you know, And
- 3:46Speaker 2: I'm not gonna say he's better than Miles. But I'm
- 3:48Speaker 2: just gonna say I'm just I just wanted to mention
- 3:51Speaker 2: I played against Reggie whe Absolutely, I'll leave it at
- 3:53Speaker 2: that automatically.
- 3:55Speaker 1: I'm you know, I'm yeah, Juonius Peppers. You know, there's
- 4:01Speaker 1: there's guys like l T. Of course l T, right,
- 4:05Speaker 1: but there's there's argument to be had.
- 4:06Speaker 2: But that's just the greatest part about it is something different.
- 4:09Speaker 1: Yeah right, yeah, and you need to talk about LT.
- 4:12Speaker 2: We talked about that for another few hours, that.
- 4:15Speaker 1: Conversation like LT, I'm actually a half sack behind LT.
- 4:18Speaker 1: But it'll continue. You know, we love to have those
- 4:22Speaker 1: type of conversations when you're when you're amongst the stars,
- 4:25Speaker 1: you're just in a different statusphere.
- 4:27Speaker 2: Absolutely, man, So you can talk about all.
- 4:28Speaker 1: The comments you want. Just know you're a comment as well.
- 4:31Speaker 1: You know you're streaking by in this in this this
- 4:34Speaker 1: thing we call life and bright as you can be.
- 4:36Speaker 2: And hey, look you've been doing your thing too, man,
- 4:38Speaker 2: you know for a while now.
- 4:40Speaker 1: Wow longevity, Wow, I believe. I believe you said consistently.
- 4:43Speaker 1: I believe in consistency, longevity.
- 4:44Speaker 2: Absolute.
- 4:45Speaker 1: Don't show me what you could do year one or
- 4:46Speaker 1: YouTube lead by storming two or three, four years, show
- 4:49Speaker 1: me seven year seven.
- 4:52Speaker 2: I look forward to seeing you in Canton. Man.
- 4:53Speaker 1: All right, that's that's hYP can What would you can consider?
- 4:58Speaker 3: Uh?
- 4:58Speaker 1: The NFL? You know your time, it was sixteen games
- 5:01Speaker 1: in my beginning of my career, sixteen games. We expanded
- 5:04Speaker 1: seventeen games. We all know we're going to eighteen games.
- 5:07Speaker 1: Does how does that affect you. You like, we all know
- 5:08Speaker 1: it is gonna happen, you know it. Eventually we're gonna
- 5:11Speaker 1: have like a twenty week, twenty twenty game schedule and
- 5:14Speaker 1: it's gonna be O D like And I'm gonna look
- 5:16Speaker 1: around like, I don't know how these guys I'm making
- 5:18Speaker 1: twenty eighteen. I'm gonna have to think about it. If
- 5:21Speaker 1: I'm do, I want to be a part of it.
- 5:23Speaker 1: Seventeen is a task.
- 5:25Speaker 2: It is it is, you know, And that that looks
- 5:29Speaker 2: like we're is headed. I know, I know seventeen. It's
- 5:31Speaker 2: been seventeen for what two or three years now, like three,
- 5:34Speaker 2: three or four years? Yeah, you know, And and hey,
- 5:38Speaker 2: I'm sure your current players and current owners, you guys will.
- 5:43Speaker 2: I'm sure you guys will work it out. We gotta
- 5:45Speaker 2: fight that, but you got to work it out.
- 5:47Speaker 1: And figure every time every time we say hey, no,
- 5:49Speaker 1: we're not gonna stand for this, more money gets thrown
- 5:51Speaker 1: at it, and everybody wants to bigger. User comes down
- 5:53Speaker 1: to it, Yes, the Pikas getting bigger and the Slights
- 5:56Speaker 1: keep getting bigger consequently.
- 5:58Speaker 2: Yeah, also because you know, you got the games off
- 6:01Speaker 2: shore right in Europe and South America, everybody, more exposure, everyone,
- 6:05Speaker 2: and everyone loves the product. I think that's that's the
- 6:08Speaker 2: bottom line, right, everyone loves the product. They want they
- 6:10Speaker 2: want more of it, you know, and so as long
- 6:14Speaker 2: as they do right by, the players can go for it.
- 6:16Speaker 1: I guess eighteen, you know, look at seventeen you feel
- 6:21Speaker 1: every hit.
- 6:22Speaker 2: I'm sure you do.
- 6:24Speaker 1: There's years where were like, man, I wish we just
- 6:25Speaker 1: had you, I could play two three more games. And
- 6:27Speaker 1: there's also years you're like, brother, this year, it's week fourteen,
- 6:30Speaker 1: I'm on one foot trying to get to the finish
- 6:33Speaker 1: line so I can get this this hopefully this is
- 6:35Speaker 1: by week secure the number seed and then be ready
- 6:36Speaker 1: for this playoff push. But you know, just that's that's
- 6:39Speaker 1: where every every season it could be changed. Could you
- 6:42Speaker 1: imagine yourself playing sixteen, sixteen season in the league?
- 6:45Speaker 2: Sixteen seasons sixteen, well, I played team.
- 6:49Speaker 1: If I play, I played next year sixteen.
- 6:54Speaker 2: You played. It's a nice thought, you know, phenomenaln't I
- 6:57Speaker 2: don't know, Yeah, I don't. I don't know how you
- 6:58Speaker 2: managed it, especially in the position that you played, right,
- 7:02Speaker 2: you know, so you got to be cut out of
- 7:04Speaker 2: the different cloth.
- 7:05Speaker 3: Man.
- 7:05Speaker 2: That's all I can say. I mean, you do that.
- 7:08Speaker 2: It's cool because you know you be playing at a
- 7:10Speaker 2: high level, you know, and uh, one of the best
- 7:14Speaker 2: picks you ten, you go.
- 7:16Speaker 1: For twelvendred yards. You think about you're eleven?
- 7:19Speaker 2: Right, you do? You know? In the years, it goes fast, man,
- 7:22Speaker 2: it goes fast. It goes fast.
- 7:24Speaker 1: This is what I've never liked. I've never agreed with.
- 7:26Speaker 1: It goes fast. The memories to make it feel like
- 7:28Speaker 1: it goes fast. But he's one of those seasons. I
- 7:30Speaker 1: remember those those shoulder injury or the knee injury or
- 7:34Speaker 1: the ankle injury, or you know, having my first kid,
- 7:36Speaker 1: and I remember, like bro, I wanted like I had
- 7:39Speaker 1: my my daughter, my four child, my daughter in December,
- 7:42Speaker 1: and I was so happy. We were headed towards the
- 7:43Speaker 1: end of season. I said, because like, you know, wife,
- 7:46Speaker 1: he needs help or whatever it is. My brother, I'm burning,
- 7:49Speaker 1: I'm burning bud Bridges here, I'm.
- 7:51Speaker 2: Gabing because it's been twenty five years since I played.
- 7:54Speaker 1: That's why you remember you remember ice cream not here? Right?
- 7:56Speaker 4: Yeah? Yeah?
- 7:57Speaker 3: Yeah?
- 7:57Speaker 2: Maybe the good parts, yeah, the good part, great parts. Yeah.
- 8:00Speaker 2: So maybe that's why I say it goes class. But
- 8:02Speaker 2: you're right in the middle of it. You know you're sixteen,
- 8:05Speaker 2: You got five or ten more left in you? You
- 8:07Speaker 2: know what I mean.
- 8:09Speaker 1: I look at guys like Calais Campbell, who's there, Like
- 8:11Speaker 1: year if I finish up year nineteen, and I'm like, brother,
- 8:16Speaker 1: what then, good God grace has got you here.
- 8:18Speaker 2: I mean, you can do at least what Aaron Rodgers
- 8:20Speaker 2: has done right twenty you can do twenty years.
- 8:22Speaker 1: I will not be forty playing football.
- 8:25Speaker 2: I will not.
- 8:25Speaker 1: There's not a shot that even if I quit today,
- 8:27Speaker 1: I will never fillip rivers this thing five years from now.
- 8:29Speaker 1: I'm like, you know what, I got one more in me? No,
- 8:32Speaker 1: I do not. I give everything I got now because
- 8:34Speaker 1: I could walk I could have walked away a year
- 8:36Speaker 1: ten as you did and been completely blessed like that
- 8:39Speaker 1: is a phenomenal career. I've done. I've done everything I
- 8:42Speaker 1: could other than win a Super Bowl, like I give.
- 8:45Speaker 1: I give everything I can in practice, so I can
- 8:47Speaker 1: know I've given everything I can in games and heart.
- 8:51Speaker 1: Year fifteen, I'm like, if there's another year, if there's
- 8:53Speaker 1: another two years, in another three years, Hallelujah'm gonna work
- 8:56Speaker 1: for each and every one of them. And and if
- 8:58Speaker 1: I never played football again, hallelujah work for eaching what
- 9:00Speaker 1: every one of those and my kids got to see
- 9:02Speaker 1: me play, you know, my wife got to do the
- 9:05Speaker 1: little fat heads with my with my name and likeness
- 9:08Speaker 1: all up in the stadiums and everywhere.
- 9:10Speaker 2: My kid is understand, you know what I'm saying.
- 9:12Speaker 1: But right, it'll be different once you change. That's that
- 9:15Speaker 1: part to it.
- 9:16Speaker 2: Right.
- 9:17Speaker 1: What is the greatest advice you can give from for
- 9:18Speaker 1: transitioning from the game.
- 9:21Speaker 2: Well, I think, I mean, you don't always know when
- 9:26Speaker 2: you are trying to you know, when you move it
- 9:28Speaker 2: on from the game, absolutely, and so you you certainly
- 9:31Speaker 2: have to take advantage of it. I think it's great
- 9:34Speaker 2: to do what you're doing and that you're you know,
- 9:37Speaker 2: you're looking to maybe what's next and setting yourself up
- 9:41Speaker 2: for what's next. You should always be uh thinking about
- 9:44Speaker 2: that because it's just that kind of a business, right
- 9:48Speaker 2: you know. And so it's you know, use it as
- 9:50Speaker 2: a as a platform, you know. That's why I'm great
- 9:54Speaker 2: to be here after a year twenty five. You know,
- 9:56Speaker 2: obviously this year I'm here working on behalf of Amagine.
- 10:00Speaker 2: I'm right, I'm working on behalf of an engine, and
- 10:03Speaker 2: we're just trying to raise awareness for heart health there,
- 10:07Speaker 2: you know, raise awareness for heart the cardiovascular What do
- 10:11Speaker 2: we put Well, I had, I had, I had a
- 10:12Speaker 2: little heart incident in the summer of twenty twenty four,
- 10:16Speaker 2: right and so and so I'm learning you know, a
- 10:20Speaker 2: lot about just heart disease and and uh, heart disease
- 10:23Speaker 2: and stroke and how it impacts far too many people
- 10:27Speaker 2: and so much of it. You know, we can we
- 10:30Speaker 2: can lower those risk factors, right, and so talk to
- 10:34Speaker 2: your doctor about high cholesterol or l d LC and
- 10:40Speaker 2: and because the only way to find out is to
- 10:42Speaker 2: talk to your doctor, you know. You know, it could
- 10:44Speaker 2: be something where you're young and healthy and have a
- 10:47Speaker 2: hereditary issue, right and so, so go to Attack Heart
- 10:51Speaker 2: Disease dot com slash documentary. You can find out you
- 10:56Speaker 2: know about test strategies and and and that sort of
- 10:59Speaker 2: thing and how to lower your risk, you know. But
- 11:02Speaker 2: but yeah, So it's cool to be able to just
- 11:06Speaker 2: do stuff like that because of the platform I had
- 11:08Speaker 2: playing football, you know, And absolutely, and it's great to
- 11:13Speaker 2: see a lot of guys using their platform for that reason,
- 11:16Speaker 2: you know. So but yeah, but I'm feeling good and
- 11:20Speaker 2: it's great just being able to get the message out
- 11:21Speaker 2: there and be able to help help a lot of fans. Yeah,
- 11:24Speaker 2: maybe dealing with that.
- 11:25Speaker 1: We'd love to hear it. I'm glad you're here because
- 11:28Speaker 1: I mean, you got your statue in front of in
- 11:30Speaker 1: front of the four Stadium over there in Detroit, Like
- 11:32Speaker 1: I don't want to be a remember statue. I know
- 11:35Speaker 1: you're here and we're glad you are. Appreciate you for
- 11:37Speaker 1: staying by Off.
- 11:38Speaker 2: The Edge man.
- 11:40Speaker 1: This is my guy, Barry Sanders, the iconic legend just
- 11:44Speaker 1: and that's why I'm blessed because I sit around, I
- 11:46Speaker 1: get to talk to legends of the game, and it
- 11:48Speaker 1: was like, just realize how close you are to great
- 11:51Speaker 1: and sometimes stay tuned. We'll be right back. Welcome here.
- 11:59Speaker 1: You know, we were here off the Edge of Cam
- 12:02Speaker 1: Jordan the podcast. You know, football player, podcaster. You're always
- 12:06Speaker 1: trying to do more than you can and I'm always
- 12:08Speaker 1: looking for the next event. I'm always trying to do
- 12:10Speaker 1: something just a little beyond my reach. I'm sitting here
- 12:12Speaker 1: with the legend in the game, you know, a Grammy
- 12:16Speaker 1: winning rapper, actor, a businessman. You know, I'm sick to
- 12:19Speaker 1: the rapper because you know, it is what it is.
- 12:20Speaker 1: You wrap, you wrap, Atlanta. We have some connection there
- 12:23Speaker 1: because I'm always like, y'all, okay, I mean you play
- 12:27Speaker 1: knowing the Saints, you know exactly. Yeah, there he goes.
- 12:31Speaker 1: You know, it's sorry, you know.
- 12:33Speaker 3: Yeah, I feel good about I feel good about this year.
- 12:35Speaker 1: Man.
- 12:36Speaker 3: We swept, y'all, ye swept. And honestly, my son is
- 12:42Speaker 3: a family, y'all. That's what Kelse the King is.
- 12:46Speaker 1: I don't talk to him a few times in the summer,
- 12:51Speaker 1: you know, I like to say he came to a better,
- 12:53Speaker 1: a better situation we got. We got a super Bowl.
- 12:55Speaker 1: Atlanta hasn't ever say, God, the.
- 12:57Speaker 4: Jail people, you go to prison, you come and his sons,
- 13:00Speaker 4: the Saints fan, whole house.
- 13:02Speaker 3: Flipped upside down, Stay out of trouble, stay out of you.
- 13:06Speaker 1: He went, he went to you know, he had a
- 13:07Speaker 1: little trouble, but then his bars got better. Suit on.
- 13:10Speaker 1: Sometimes as a suburban kid, my dad playing in the
- 13:12Speaker 1: Minnesota Vikings for thirteen years, a suburb kit, you gotta
- 13:15Speaker 1: get little dirty on your I mean, your daddy tries everything.
- 13:18Speaker 4: They would have no idea of it, you know, from
- 13:21Speaker 4: what I see he we all have had those moments
- 13:26Speaker 4: in our life where we had, you know, to learn
- 13:28Speaker 4: from trial and are absolutely and we've all bumped our
- 13:31Speaker 4: heads and taken lessons along with us. So he shall
- 13:36Speaker 4: be no different, except I guess there's already an expectation
- 13:39Speaker 4: of him to have it together already, right, you know
- 13:43Speaker 4: what I mean, which isn't a realistic expectation. Absolutely, I'm
- 13:46Speaker 4: extremely proud of him. He's a phenomenal father. Just just
- 13:50Speaker 4: he just gave me a grandson, and.
- 13:52Speaker 3: And that is that has changed him. And you know.
- 13:55Speaker 4: He's evolved into just quite a more thoughtful person. Yeah, aware, yeah,
- 14:02Speaker 4: more aware, Yeah, and I appreciate it.
- 14:04Speaker 1: I'm here s fatherhood to do it for you, will.
- 14:07Speaker 1: I mean I got four better that first way. We're
- 14:10Speaker 1: no longer in.
- 14:10Speaker 3: The streets and man, like I ain't even three four,
- 14:12Speaker 3: you know what, I do? Want to go home this right,
- 14:14Speaker 3: Let me get a hot make sure my house is
- 14:17Speaker 3: still standing.
- 14:18Speaker 1: Absolutely so, So what brought you out here?
- 14:21Speaker 3: Man? I really just out here to see the festivities?
- 14:23Speaker 1: Man?
- 14:23Speaker 3: You know what I'm saying. The band is a lovely place.
- 14:26Speaker 4: I always make got real people out here, man, I
- 14:28Speaker 4: got family and friends out here, So I just you know,
- 14:30Speaker 4: decided to come at and just you know, take you
- 14:33Speaker 4: into festivities.
- 14:34Speaker 1: Man, man, I love that. I mean I used to
- 14:37Speaker 1: call you the king of the South houst to I.
- 14:39Speaker 3: Mean Houston was a rooster to the hend came in.
- 14:42Speaker 3: You know what you mean.
- 14:43Speaker 1: I went to New Orleans. I had to buy into
- 14:44Speaker 1: not like it like you. In two thousand, I had
- 14:47Speaker 1: a no, you don't, but if I can't, I if
- 14:50Speaker 1: I like you, guess I'm a Sartain liking too. And
- 14:52Speaker 1: then then I said Julio Jones. And also, but it
- 14:57Speaker 1: all starts in the place, so you're still in the playlist.
- 15:00Speaker 1: You know what I'm saying. Playlist.
- 15:03Speaker 3: Hey man, listen. You know what you don't know me
- 15:05Speaker 3: that you can sense.
- 15:07Speaker 4: Your university, your kingdom, or however you want to whoever
- 15:09Speaker 4: you decide to make your king.
- 15:11Speaker 1: Jesus is good luck Jesus.
- 15:14Speaker 3: Gee okay, well, I mean no Earth absolutely, man.
- 15:18Speaker 1: When I think about what you meant to the game, bro,
- 15:21Speaker 1: That's why I'm saying, music starts how you even enter
- 15:23Speaker 1: or into that game. Wake up in the morning. Sometimes
- 15:26Speaker 1: you need a little gangs in it. Sometimes you gotta
- 15:28Speaker 1: have little him to calm you down. Sometimes you wake
- 15:31Speaker 1: up wired and you like, all right, brother, let me
- 15:33Speaker 1: let me chill out, you know.
- 15:36Speaker 3: I mean, man, I like to stay centered, you know
- 15:37Speaker 3: what I'm saying.
- 15:40Speaker 4: I kind of like to have my music set the
- 15:43Speaker 4: tone of the environment based on how I'm already feeling.
- 15:47Speaker 4: I try not to have the outside source of the
- 15:53Speaker 4: energy kind of drive me. I like to drive the
- 15:56Speaker 4: energy of the outside source. So if I'm already calm
- 16:00Speaker 4: in that piece, that's when I play shoya.
- 16:03Speaker 3: That's when I, oh, you embrace it.
- 16:05Speaker 4: Yeah, when I'm already coming a piece, And because if
- 16:08Speaker 4: I feel that I'm already kind of like too amped up,
- 16:11Speaker 4: I'm going to center myself, meditate and kind of you know,
- 16:14Speaker 4: do some breathing techniques. I'm going to focus on my
- 16:19Speaker 4: energy to be driven from within rather than you know,
- 16:23Speaker 4: be guided from the exterior.
- 16:25Speaker 1: Yeah, look all of those I can't wake up at
- 16:28Speaker 1: nine o'clock with the three o'clock game and still be wired,
- 16:31Speaker 1: like you ain't gonna sustain six hours and I'm ready
- 16:33Speaker 1: to fight now.
- 16:34Speaker 3: That's right, So I gotta calm down when storm here.
- 16:37Speaker 4: Absolutely not, you don't, absolutely yeah, man, try some breathing
- 16:41Speaker 4: techniques and meditation, man, that uh.
- 16:44Speaker 3: You know, what I'm saying.
- 16:45Speaker 1: Yeah, are you releasing your final album?
- 16:47Speaker 3: Yes?
- 16:48Speaker 1: Kill the King? Yes, release the track I heard I
- 16:50Speaker 1: heard heard earlier this month. Us. Oh, he's I said,
- 16:52Speaker 1: We're bad. Why is now the right time to announce
- 16:57Speaker 1: retirement when you were You can't just drop heat and.
- 17:00Speaker 3: Like, I'm gonna exit on my own terms.
- 17:04Speaker 4: I feel like God, God sends us all here with many,
- 17:07Speaker 4: many gifts. You know, after you're done with one of
- 17:11Speaker 4: those gifts, when those gifts have afforded you the opportunity
- 17:14Speaker 4: to utilize the rest of those gifts, then you know
- 17:17Speaker 4: it's time to focus your attention on those other gifts.
- 17:21Speaker 4: And I think that time has come for me. I've
- 17:23Speaker 4: been blessed. I've been blessed with an illustrious career. I
- 17:27Speaker 4: dreamed about being in this industry. I dreamed of all
- 17:30Speaker 4: the things that I wanted to do, and I've done
- 17:32Speaker 4: most of them, you know, I've done most of them.
- 17:36Speaker 4: I mean to retire, you know, but if you got
- 17:43Speaker 4: to earn the right every time, when you've been blessed
- 17:45Speaker 4: by the fans to have a career like this, you have.
- 17:47Speaker 3: To earn the right to walk away.
- 17:49Speaker 4: And so I'm gonna give I'm gonna give I'm gonna
- 17:52Speaker 4: give one final uh it's just just I mean, one
- 17:56Speaker 4: hundred percent effort, you know what I mean, and le
- 18:00Speaker 4: it out there. And then I'm gonna start focusing on
- 18:02Speaker 4: like real estate development, things like film television as a writer, director, producer,
- 18:10Speaker 4: introducing other other.
- 18:11Speaker 1: Talent to the ject metaphor community.
- 18:14Speaker 4: Yeah, absolutely, you know what I mean, trying to do
- 18:16Speaker 4: other things that I feel like God gave me gifts
- 18:18Speaker 4: to do, and I think I have to take a
- 18:22Speaker 4: little time away from the primary gift in order to
- 18:26Speaker 4: focus on these other ones.
- 18:27Speaker 1: Right, I mean, I mean, you're also the progenitor, like
- 18:30Speaker 1: the originator of hat placements. You know what I'm saying,
- 18:34Speaker 1: am I? In my fifteen years, I can show you
- 18:37Speaker 1: I've had different hairstyles over the years, from your high
- 18:40Speaker 1: top fade to dual high top fade. I done had
- 18:42Speaker 1: a Jerry curl okay forty I had a mustache to
- 18:45Speaker 1: curl up. I have had plenty of looks. Every year
- 18:47Speaker 1: I switched up. I had silver twists this year dreams.
- 18:50Speaker 1: You know what I'm saying. I said, why not? You
- 18:52Speaker 1: know what I'm saying for you? Where what is your
- 18:54Speaker 1: your uh? You know your sound comfort. I mean, you've
- 18:56Speaker 1: had different hairstyles yourself. Yeah, you can started generations side.
- 19:00Speaker 4: This don't going to be on I mean, bro, my
- 19:04Speaker 4: style comes from mostly exposure the things that I've been
- 19:11Speaker 4: fortunate enough and blessed enough to.
- 19:13Speaker 3: Be exposed to.
- 19:16Speaker 4: Styles like Okay, I remember I did a I started
- 19:19Speaker 4: spending a lot of time in like Africa, South Africa,
- 19:22Speaker 4: Cape Town, johannibird Uh, Tanzania, Kenya, Ghana, you know what
- 19:29Speaker 4: I mean. And I just started like wearing like the
- 19:33Speaker 4: African I started. I bought like a probably about by
- 19:36Speaker 4: twenty five outfits. Yeah, I don't know if they were
- 19:39Speaker 4: just dashikis. It was kind of like the they budget.
- 19:41Speaker 3: The button out the way up. Yeah yeah, yeah.
- 19:44Speaker 4: I started wearing a bunch of them, you know what
- 19:46Speaker 4: I mean, because just because it felt right, I was
- 19:48Speaker 4: exposed to it, I liked it, and you know what
- 19:50Speaker 4: I'm saying, I just put I put a little different piece.
- 19:53Speaker 3: Of swag on it, you know what I mean. Uh,
- 19:55Speaker 3: And the hairstyles had to reflect hairstyck. Now my hairstyle.
- 19:59Speaker 3: The reason ain't my hair. Okay.
- 20:02Speaker 4: So back in the pandemic when nobody went getting no haircuts.
- 20:04Speaker 3: We were sheltering in place, right.
- 20:06Speaker 2: You know what I mean?
- 20:06Speaker 4: So I had like my hair had there grew out
- 20:08Speaker 4: like a little fro, and I had my face that
- 20:10Speaker 4: grew in.
- 20:11Speaker 3: And so I met you've never seen you face here Instagram.
- 20:16Speaker 3: It don't connect.
- 20:19Speaker 1: I was like, I said, wait a minute with there.
- 20:20Speaker 3: You know, it's more like cheek fudds. You know what
- 20:23Speaker 3: I'm saying.
- 20:24Speaker 4: So I'm out and as a woman walked up to
- 20:27Speaker 4: me and she said, hey, you know what, never mind,
- 20:32Speaker 4: I thought you were t I. I was like, okay,
- 20:36Speaker 4: I can hide. So I just started growing my hair,
- 20:39Speaker 4: you know what I'm saying, thinking that I have a
- 20:40Speaker 4: little more time to myself. Uh and you know, now
- 20:44Speaker 4: at it's time to get back out there, man, give
- 20:46Speaker 4: a hundred percent of myself to the fans. I had
- 20:49Speaker 4: to cut it off. Man, I had to cut it
- 20:50Speaker 4: off and get back to the brain boy.
- 20:54Speaker 1: We were back. Yeah, okay, that's a t ip, baby
- 20:59Speaker 1: me excited. What's your favorite to I song?
- 21:02Speaker 3: I don't know right now. Let them know it's a
- 21:04Speaker 3: new one.
- 21:07Speaker 1: And I love that. I mean, what you're looking forward
- 21:09Speaker 1: to with this like this last one? Does this sound
- 21:11Speaker 1: weird to say? The last one.
- 21:12Speaker 4: Nah, man, I'm excited about it. Bro, I'm excited about it.
- 21:15Speaker 4: It's kind of like graduating high school.
- 21:17Speaker 3: You know what I'm saying. It's like, you know, I
- 21:19Speaker 3: actually get a chance to finish what I started.
- 21:23Speaker 1: You're gonna be a tear drop when it's all set
- 21:24Speaker 1: in drying. So okay, Look as a man, you know,
- 21:27Speaker 1: like it's sort of hard to just release most tames.
- 21:31Speaker 3: Man, it's people, you know, we are forced them to
- 21:33Speaker 3: the time. Indeed, you did, know what I'm saying. What's
- 21:36Speaker 3: a ball player when you want to you know exit,
- 21:38Speaker 3: you know on a Super Bowl absolutely, especially second goal.
- 21:43Speaker 3: You want to hear this. You want to get out
- 21:45Speaker 3: of there. You know when you got a ring and
- 21:48Speaker 3: you hay, you know what I'm saying, you know, an
- 21:49Speaker 3: age your m v P and.
- 21:51Speaker 1: Yeah, I and even if if a Super Bowl ring possible,
- 21:54Speaker 1: personal accolades like done, done all of it, scoring right,
- 21:58Speaker 1: honeys deep, sitting sitting in the pantheon of the greatest right,
- 22:04Speaker 1: So when they Minchian, you're like, oh man, but he
- 22:06Speaker 1: also did everything else to salute There's nothing that you
- 22:09Speaker 1: haven't accomplished personally.
- 22:10Speaker 3: And that's why I'm man with it.
- 22:12Speaker 1: I love that, man.
- 22:13Speaker 3: I appreciate you stopping respect.
- 22:15Speaker 1: I got one last question for you. Went in the
- 22:17Speaker 1: Super Bowl.
- 22:17Speaker 3: A man, I think I like to see Hawks. Okay,
- 22:20Speaker 3: I like to see you.
- 22:21Speaker 1: Got a score prediction.
- 22:22Speaker 3: No, it's gonna be alet game. I think it's gonna
- 22:24Speaker 3: be a close.
- 22:25Speaker 1: Guy though, Yeah, if it's gonna be close, I want
- 22:27Speaker 1: points on the board, though, I don't want seventy ten.
- 22:30Speaker 1: Like you know, the Patriots got out of out of Denver.
- 22:33Speaker 3: I want ms say something like that, Yeah we never
- 22:38Speaker 3: lived there. I love that. Appreciate you love respect, man. Indeed,
- 22:41Speaker 3: all right,