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HALOS HIT WALL: Sunday's injury marred loss takes edge off solid homestand · Halo Territory: A Los Angeles Angels Podcast

• 0:08
  Speaker 1: Well, Hey Angel fans, and welcome back to Halo territory.
• 0:11
  Speaker 2: I Mike D.
• 0:12
  Speaker 1: Giovanni, former La Times Baseball writer and host of the show,
• 0:16
  Speaker 1: joined by Mark Trumbo, my regular co host, the former
• 0:19
  Speaker 1: Angels slugger Well. A tough lost Sunday for the Halos
• 0:23
  Speaker 1: took the edge off what was a pretty good homestand
• 0:26
  Speaker 1: in which the Angels won two out of three from
• 0:28
  Speaker 1: both the Astros and Rays one day after an eight
• 0:32
  Speaker 1: nothing when that Joe Adell called the team's most complete
• 0:35
  Speaker 1: game of the season. The Angels and Rays were tied
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  Speaker 1: three to three in the eighth on Sunday, they hand
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  Speaker 1: the ball to Sam Bachman, which seemed like a wise move.
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  Speaker 1: Bachman had not given up a run in thirteen innings
• 0:48
  Speaker 1: of twelve appearances since May tenth. The right hander gives
• 0:53
  Speaker 1: up five runs on four hits. The Angels lose eight
• 0:56
  Speaker 1: to three. There was a lead off walk with which
• 1:00
  Speaker 1: never seems good, a two run homer by a junior
• 1:03
  Speaker 1: Cameron Aro, Blasio's double, Faduccio RBI single, and a Mason
• 1:08
  Speaker 1: Junior two run homer.
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  Speaker 2: Mark Man. What happened to Sam Bachman today?
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  Speaker 3: Just wasn't his day.
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  Speaker 4: I don't think there's anything to really look into beyond
• 1:19
  Speaker 4: having a dot of an outing. They seemed to be,
• 1:25
  Speaker 4: for whatever reason, an offense. Their offense really hadn't clicked
• 1:29
  Speaker 4: most of the series. When they got rallies going, at
• 1:33
  Speaker 4: times they grounded into a double play, were unable to
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  Speaker 4: get the big hit when needed. I didn't really see
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  Speaker 4: much of the small ball that they are known for either,
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  Speaker 4: so up until that point their offense really hadn't been
• 1:46
  Speaker 4: very impressive. But unfortunately for Bachman, the mistakes he did
• 1:49
  Speaker 4: make were punished. Some of his off speed got hit
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  Speaker 4: really hard and he kind of had to wear it.
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  Speaker 4: They were thin on pitching with yesterday. Jose Soriano on
• 2:00
  Speaker 4: Saturday going five inning, seventy six pitches, coming out with
• 2:05
  Speaker 4: tightness in his leg I believe in an effort to
• 2:09
  Speaker 4: get away from that comebacker that ended up striking him
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  Speaker 4: in the chest. So that made the bullpen work harder
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  Speaker 4: on Saturday night, and then on Sunday, Grayson Rodriguez leaving
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  Speaker 4: what was that in the second and.
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  Speaker 1: Third inning looked really awkward on a change up to
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  Speaker 1: Cedric Mullins hit him with a pitch to load the
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  Speaker 1: bases with no outs, and he came out of the game.
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  Speaker 1: Now was announced that during the game that it was
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  Speaker 1: lower back nightness. Rodriguez said afterward that the injury is
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  Speaker 1: quote not too concerning right now. I mean, obviously I'm
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  Speaker 1: concerned because I came out of the game for it,
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  Speaker 1: but it's just going to be something that we're going
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  Speaker 1: to have to manage over the next couple of days
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  Speaker 1: to be able to get back out there. Now, Mark,
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  Speaker 1: considering Grayson's injury history with his arm, especially, is this
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  Speaker 1: a little more concerning.
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  Speaker 2: That maybe the Angels might be letting on.
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  Speaker 4: Speculating, but a fair amount of concern that there might
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  Speaker 4: be at least one start up and up in the air.
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  Speaker 4: It could be as minor as he says, but anything
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  Speaker 4: with the back, and I know from personal experience, things
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  Speaker 4: can It's a tough one. How much discomfort he was
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  Speaker 4: in I don't know, but he is a tough guy,
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  Speaker 4: so I'm going to assume it was quite uncomfortable. I
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  Speaker 4: think it was really worrisome watching that last pitch because
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  Speaker 4: it was so offline. It really didn't look right at all,
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  Speaker 4: And immediately I said it could be a lat thing,
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  Speaker 4: could be who knows. The back wouldn't have been my
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  Speaker 4: first or second guess, But I guess in the grand
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  Speaker 4: scheme of things, it's not the elbow, it's not the shoulder.
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  Speaker 4: So let's hope that probably a little spasm that they
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  Speaker 4: can get under control pretty quickly and maybe not missus.
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  Speaker 3: But if he does have to miss one, not the.
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  Speaker 4: End of the world.
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  Speaker 2: Yeah.
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  Speaker 1: When I saw the pitch, the pronation of the arm,
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  Speaker 1: or the changeup, my first thought was what happened with
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  Speaker 1: Jack Ahonowitz. He was throwing ninety eight ninety nine, felt
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  Speaker 1: fine physically, the change up feels a little weird boom.
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  Speaker 1: He's having Tommy John surgery, so that was my immediate concern.
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  Speaker 1: So yeah, I mean for a big guy like him,
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  Speaker 1: lower back is never a good thing. The Angels already
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  Speaker 1: are ready without you, say Kakuchi, Jack k is out now.
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  Speaker 1: Tommy John. Sam Alde Gary did a pretty nice job
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  Speaker 1: filling in on the rotation spot in his first start.
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  Speaker 1: Who if there is a need for a fifth starter,
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  Speaker 1: if Creation does have to do it, maybe a short
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  Speaker 1: Eyele Snint who would join Urania, det merse In, Siano
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  Speaker 1: and Alde Gary in rotation.
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  Speaker 2: You think they'll have to go to the minor leagues
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  Speaker 2: for that one.
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  Speaker 3: As far as opposed to one of their went out
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  Speaker 3: of the bolt.
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  Speaker 1: Yeah, I guess it'd be Mitch Ferris. Maybe you still
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  Speaker 1: have the possibility.
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  Speaker 3: Yeah, I.
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  Speaker 4: Do think that, and I think he's doing quite well there,
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  Speaker 4: so it's kind of like you know that, Well, it's
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  Speaker 4: exactly like what we talked about with Red last year.
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  Speaker 4: So Caiten Dana had to pour out in today for
• 5:22
  Speaker 4: Salt Lake and still gonna need to see more out
• 5:25
  Speaker 4: of him. One of our regular listeners was asking why
• 5:29
  Speaker 4: not Tyler Bremner, and I had a number of reasons why,
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  Speaker 4: but he I think he gave up three runs today.
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  Speaker 4: He's still on a very limited pitch count, very limited
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  Speaker 4: so I've yet to see anything touching five six innings
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  Speaker 4: of work, So that's a no. And Ryan Johnson, I
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  Speaker 4: admittedly need to look a little bit closer. I don't
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  Speaker 4: know double A. I believe and hopefully he's doing well
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  Speaker 4: and he has major league experience, so we'll see what
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  Speaker 4: they do.
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  Speaker 1: Yeah. Angels lost another player to injury during Sunday's game
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  Speaker 1: when Wade Meckler crashed into the left center field wall
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  Speaker 1: while pursuing Ben Williamson's fourth inning home run. Meckler took
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  Speaker 1: his bat in the bottom of the fourth, but he
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  Speaker 1: left in the top of the fifth, and he said
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  Speaker 1: after the game that he came out as a concussion
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  Speaker 1: percussion and that he's fine. So good news on that front.
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  Speaker 1: But man Mark, that warning track didn't seem to give
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  Speaker 1: mec a good a very good warning on that play.
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  Speaker 2: You played left field.
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  Speaker 1: And it's does that wall just sometimes come up a
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  Speaker 1: little quicker than you expect when you're you got your
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  Speaker 1: eye on the ball and you're in pursuit.
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  Speaker 3: He's the guy that goes all out.
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  Speaker 4: We saw it the first game, crashed into the lower
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  Speaker 4: wall down the line making a nice play.
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  Speaker 3: Today he's it's as if it's.
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  Speaker 4: Not there almost, uh, which you love, you love to
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  Speaker 4: see it until Yeah, So that that is appears to
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  Speaker 4: be his brand of baseball. And obviously he got his
• 7:02
  Speaker 4: bell rung and they're going to have to go through
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  Speaker 4: some of the protocols. Hopefully not that big a deal.
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  Speaker 4: But those walls, I'll tell you that there's patting there,
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  Speaker 4: but it doesn't do much.
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  Speaker 3: Yeah, you will feel it.
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  Speaker 1: They were saying on the broadcast, and I think this
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  Speaker 1: is true going back a lot of years.
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  Speaker 3: The wall does give.
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  Speaker 2: In certain areas. But where there are the pillars.
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  Speaker 1: Behind the wall and you know, the uprights to hold
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  Speaker 1: the wall, it does not give it all.
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  Speaker 2: And man, he hit them the wrong spot. Well.
• 7:29
  Speaker 1: On the plus side, Donovan Walton hit his first home
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  Speaker 1: run as an Angel on Sunday. That was one of
• 7:35
  Speaker 1: two runs that Halos scored in the fifth game, fifth
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  Speaker 1: inning to tie the game. He also went three for
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  Speaker 1: four with two RBIs and Saturday Nights win. And he's
• 7:44
  Speaker 1: hitting up pretty tidy two ninety six with a seven
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  Speaker 1: to fifty nine OPS in eighteen games. Now von Grissom
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  Speaker 1: we here is about to start a rehab assignment. He's
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  Speaker 1: on the il, but his Donovan Walton earned a spot here,
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  Speaker 1: maybe not to stay, but certainly to.
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  Speaker 2: To uh, you know, survive. Bon Grissom coming back.
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  Speaker 4: It's a question for someone else in the words of
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  Speaker 4: someone else, but I they have a lot of guys
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  Speaker 4: that are contributing that. Arguably Nick Madrigal is contributing, was
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  Speaker 4: a serious contributing. Trey Mancini is contributing, Yeah, and you're
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  Speaker 4: gonna need to find a way to and Walton is
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  Speaker 4: as well. A nice home run today. He's looked not
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  Speaker 4: overmatched at all, he's put some nice at bats together.
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  Speaker 4: His defense looks good. So if they're committed, now, what
• 8:35
  Speaker 4: are they going to do at third base? Is Guzman
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  Speaker 4: going to get extended?
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  Speaker 3: Look?
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  Speaker 4: It appears so with with that are going to come
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  Speaker 4: some some plays like the bunt that he picked up
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  Speaker 4: that was about to roll foul, and there's going to
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  Speaker 4: be some other ones. It's it's inevitable. He's a very
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  Speaker 4: young kid. He's he's learning at the big league level.
• 8:55
  Speaker 4: He's definitely got a lot of bat speed though. The
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  Speaker 4: tool the tools are there. It's just a matter of
• 9:00
  Speaker 4: putting it together and hopefully having you know, maybe a
• 9:04
  Speaker 4: guy like Peroza can really help him out. I don't
• 9:07
  Speaker 4: know if they have a bond, but I would assume
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  Speaker 4: he'd be a good guy to lean on for any questions,
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  Speaker 4: at least when it comes to defense.
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  Speaker 1: Yeah, I thought you had a couple of pretty good,
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  Speaker 1: big clutch hits over the weekend. And he made a
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  Speaker 1: really nice stop of a double play ball or to
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  Speaker 1: start a double play on Sunday. The ball looked like
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  Speaker 1: it took it was like one hundred miles an hour
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  Speaker 1: plus off the bat, almost took a funny hop off
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  Speaker 1: the end, but he stuck with it and started a
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  Speaker 1: double play. We're going to take a quick break for
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• 9:39
  Speaker 1: we're going to talk a little bit about this very
• 9:42
  Speaker 1: much more diverse Angel offense.
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  Speaker 1: And welcome back to Halo Territory with Mark Trumbo and
• 10:51
  Speaker 1: Mike d. Giovanna will Mark God for weeks. We all
• 10:55
  Speaker 1: we talked, not all we talked about, but a lot
• 10:57
  Speaker 1: of what we talked about from the offensive side was
• 10:59
  Speaker 1: the three true outcomes, the home run, the strikeout, the walk.
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  Speaker 1: The strikeouts continue for the most part, the walks.
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  Speaker 2: Not so much.
• 11:10
  Speaker 1: But in twelve games in June, the Angels are batting
• 11:15
  Speaker 1: two sixty six with a seven forty oh ps. They've
• 11:19
  Speaker 1: scored sixty eight runs in those games, an average of
• 11:22
  Speaker 1: five point four a game, and they hit only nine
• 11:25
  Speaker 1: home runs in that span. They've been doing a much
• 11:28
  Speaker 1: better job of battling with two strikes, putting the ball
• 11:31
  Speaker 1: in play, putting together more rallies where they're combining some
• 11:35
  Speaker 1: walks some singles, putting pressure on the defense. Clutch hits.
• 11:39
  Speaker 1: Run isn't scoring position, not relying so much on the
• 11:42
  Speaker 1: home run, more on some timely hitting mark. You like
• 11:45
  Speaker 1: what you're seeing a little more out of this offense
• 11:47
  Speaker 1: right now?
• 11:50
  Speaker 3: How can you not?
• 11:51
  Speaker 2: Yea, how can you not?
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  Speaker 4: I think that the fans, I assume are liking what
• 11:55
  Speaker 4: they're seeing. It's led to better results. There's one in
• 11:59
  Speaker 4: particular that doesn't seem to be buying in, but everyone
• 12:02
  Speaker 4: else seems to be doing their part and taking, you know,
• 12:07
  Speaker 4: going with the pitch. On the broadcast today, they said
• 12:09
  Speaker 4: that it's been a much more enjoyable product. The fans
• 12:13
  Speaker 4: are really enjoying it, which I don't know. The enthusiasm
• 12:17
  Speaker 4: was there in the beginning of the year as well,
• 12:20
  Speaker 4: watching and I'm not sure if what we were told
• 12:24
  Speaker 4: is true or it was hard to really make sense
• 12:28
  Speaker 4: of all of it because this is an entirely different
• 12:30
  Speaker 4: team than the one that broke camp, which was almost
• 12:35
  Speaker 4: entirely reliant on what you're talking about. I mean, was
• 12:39
  Speaker 4: sitting around waiting for a big home run? Was it
• 12:42
  Speaker 4: going to come? If they didn't hit a home run,
• 12:44
  Speaker 4: they didn't win a lot of games. And now you
• 12:46
  Speaker 4: have the ability to manufacture some runs. We're seeing some
• 12:49
  Speaker 4: sack bunts. It seems like a definite shift. We've covered
• 12:53
  Speaker 4: it a little bit before, but this is not the
• 12:55
  Speaker 4: same offense at all. Why and how don't have a
• 12:59
  Speaker 4: real answer other than you know, what we do know
• 13:02
  Speaker 4: is the player personnel has changed. It changed drastically, and
• 13:06
  Speaker 4: we have you know, we're looking at different guys that
• 13:08
  Speaker 4: do different things. Moncado, Solaire, et cetera.
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  Speaker 3: Not not out.
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  Speaker 4: There guys like Neckler and Walton and et cetera. We've
• 13:19
  Speaker 4: talked about a lot of these guys. They they may
• 13:21
  Speaker 4: not have as much power, but they're more competitive, especially
• 13:25
  Speaker 4: with two strikes.
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  Speaker 1: Totally agree. I think it's a classic addition by some traction.
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  Speaker 1: I think when Moncata got hurt, that was the first domino,
• 13:35
  Speaker 1: and then when Solaire went down. I mean, I did
• 13:39
  Speaker 1: think Moncatta did battle more in the box and then
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  Speaker 1: maybe we give him credit for but I think his
• 13:46
  Speaker 1: overall play, his weak defense is lack of hustle just
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  Speaker 1: kind of brought the team down. And then Solaire was
• 13:52
  Speaker 1: he's just he's most of his career he's been a
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  Speaker 1: classic all or nothing guy and he just you know,
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  Speaker 1: when he hit some you know, one hundred and twelve
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  Speaker 1: off the bat. You know, four hundred and thirty feet
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  Speaker 1: their majestic, but it's so rare when he gets a
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  Speaker 1: hold of them. And yeah, I think the change of personnel,
• 14:09
  Speaker 1: the guys they've brought in, and you mentioned Jose Sirian,
• 14:12
  Speaker 1: I have to give him credit. I don't know this
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  Speaker 1: guy very well.
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  Speaker 2: I didn't. I knew he was.
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  Speaker 1: A really good defensive player, but just having been around
• 14:20
  Speaker 1: to a couple of games this back past week, he's
• 14:23
  Speaker 1: a really fun loving guy in the clubhouse. He brings
• 14:26
  Speaker 1: an energy that maybe they lacked in the beginning of
• 14:30
  Speaker 1: the year. I think the battling in the in the
• 14:34
  Speaker 1: box of Madrigals, especially Meckler Walton has put together a
• 14:41
  Speaker 1: lot of good at bats, and you know, Parazza and
• 14:45
  Speaker 1: some of these guys have been doing all year. I've
• 14:47
  Speaker 1: seen Joe Adell go opposite field.
• 14:49
  Speaker 3: Now, I was.
• 14:50
  Speaker 4: Gonna say, Joe red hot getting over four hundred and
• 14:54
  Speaker 4: his last seven and drawing some interest as well.
• 14:59
  Speaker 1: Yeah, yeah, we'll get to that in a little bit.
• 15:01
  Speaker 1: Uh and Mike Trout, you know they didn't win today.
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  Speaker 1: I thought his double to right center I think was
• 15:07
  Speaker 1: the lead off the eighth man. That's the kind of
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  Speaker 1: a bag.
• 15:10
  Speaker 3: Just did you just say that extra velocity?
• 15:14
  Speaker 2: I did not see it. What was it? It was?
• 15:18
  Speaker 3: He smoked it. He smoked it.
• 15:20
  Speaker 4: But the thing that continues to impress me about Mike,
• 15:23
  Speaker 4: I mean, he had some they were dinkers. He didn't
• 15:28
  Speaker 4: infield dribblers, but busted it down the line. And I
• 15:34
  Speaker 4: We're going to get to what I'm kind of alluding
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  Speaker 4: to soon enough, But why why that's not done by
• 15:42
  Speaker 4: everyone or one in particular. Mike Trout can do it,
• 15:45
  Speaker 4: everyone can do it.
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  Speaker 3: I agree.
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  Speaker 1: We'll get to Mark's favorite shortstop in a little bit,
• 15:49
  Speaker 1: But first I did want to talk about Friday Night's game,
• 15:52
  Speaker 1: which was pretty crazy. As I said, they got a
• 15:54
  Speaker 1: really nice start from sam Ald Gary. He gave up
• 15:57
  Speaker 1: one earned run and three hits in five inning. Silseth
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  Speaker 1: throws a scoreless six. Then Mitch Ferris enters the game
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  Speaker 1: in the seventh, and he pitched the seventh, and he
• 16:07
  Speaker 1: pitched the eighth, and the ninth inning starts in Bachmann
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  Speaker 1: and Zephyr John. I believe we're still in the bullpen
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  Speaker 1: and out comes Mitch Ferris and he I think he
• 16:18
  Speaker 1: gave up a run. The Rays cut the deficit the
• 16:21
  Speaker 1: four to three, they finally go to Zephyr John, and
• 16:24
  Speaker 1: as it turns out, we find out after the game
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  Speaker 1: that Sam bok Zuke wanted to give Sam Bachman one more.
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  Speaker 2: Day arrests after the off day.
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  Speaker 1: So Zephyr John loads the bases with a walk to
• 16:34
  Speaker 1: Cameron Aro strikeouts, strikes out Mullins for the team's first
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  Speaker 1: save since May twenty third. I was done when Ferris
• 16:46
  Speaker 1: walked out for the ninth thing? What were you surprised
• 16:49
  Speaker 1: he stayed with Mitch as long as he did?
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  Speaker 3: Honestly? Not really?
• 16:55
  Speaker 2: Oh really? Why is that?
• 16:58
  Speaker 4: I can't make any more sense the next guy out
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  Speaker 4: of There's don't appear to be really any defined roles.
• 17:06
  Speaker 4: Who's closing Zephyr John? Maybe question Mark? I think that
• 17:13
  Speaker 4: right now it's you know, going extended Innians with Ferris,
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  Speaker 4: with Suitter, with Natara. It seems like that's kind of
• 17:24
  Speaker 4: what the game plan actually is. Not to say it's
• 17:27
  Speaker 4: not working. It seems to actually be working. So if
• 17:31
  Speaker 4: you've got a guy that's doing well, logically you just
• 17:37
  Speaker 4: leave him in yeah, and leave him until he runs
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  Speaker 4: out of gas. The downside is if a guy throws
• 17:43
  Speaker 4: three innings and accumulates forty something pitches fifty by who knows.
• 17:47
  Speaker 4: Hopefully it's lower than that, but they're going to need.
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  Speaker 2: A rest and more than one day.
• 17:54
  Speaker 4: Your Pomerants and Kirby Yates are still on the older side,
• 17:58
  Speaker 4: so they're not going to be and unfortunately it looks
• 18:00
  Speaker 4: like Bachman they're kind of handling with kid gloves as well,
• 18:03
  Speaker 4: probably due to the injury history. So you got three
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  Speaker 4: guys that you're going to really need to look after,
• 18:09
  Speaker 4: and they're not really They're in need of that rubber
• 18:12
  Speaker 4: arm side arm YadA YadA guy that can throw a ton,
• 18:16
  Speaker 4: and I don't really think they have one right now,
• 18:19
  Speaker 4: and long relief type, so we'll have to see what
• 18:23
  Speaker 4: they do. But there might be some instances where they
• 18:26
  Speaker 4: need to cover quite a few innings and only a
• 18:29
  Speaker 4: couple of arms to do it.
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  Speaker 1: Yeah, we I didn't want to let the show go
• 18:33
  Speaker 1: by without bringing up Sammy to Terra's funny. Mark mentioned
• 18:36
  Speaker 1: this guy in spring training as a guy to look
• 18:39
  Speaker 1: out for, and he's he's throwing four and two thirds
• 18:41
  Speaker 1: scoreless in his first couple of outings.
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  Speaker 2: Mark impressed you so far.
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  Speaker 4: I think he's impressed everyone. I think he looks like
• 18:51
  Speaker 4: a guy that is a nice piece. He fits the
• 18:56
  Speaker 4: role that you know Rock Burke traded away. Here's a
• 18:58
  Speaker 4: guy that actually is stuff. Looks really comparable to brock Works.
• 19:02
  Speaker 4: I mean, he's a hard thrown lefty capable of punching
• 19:04
  Speaker 4: headers out. He doesn't seem overwhelmed by the moment, and
• 19:09
  Speaker 4: really like what I see out of them.
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  Speaker 1: Hey, Welcome back to Hillo Territory with Mark Trumbo and
• 20:29
  Speaker 1: Mike dgi Ivanowell. Zach Netto, the mercurial shortstop, continues to
• 20:34
  Speaker 1: frustrate many with his uneven on field play. Netto made
• 20:39
  Speaker 1: his major league leading thirteenth era on a potential double
• 20:42
  Speaker 1: play grounder and struck out four times Friday night. But
• 20:46
  Speaker 1: it was his reaction to an eighth inning bloop single
• 20:50
  Speaker 1: that seemed to draw the ire of some Mark, what
• 20:53
  Speaker 1: did you see on that play?
• 20:57
  Speaker 4: It was a play that he really wasn't a great swing.
• 21:02
  Speaker 4: I think that's what he was reacting to. For the
• 21:04
  Speaker 4: most part, not much of an effort out of the box,
• 21:07
  Speaker 4: and he actually got a hit on it. He's been
• 21:09
  Speaker 4: very good or very lucky about salvaging something in these
• 21:15
  Speaker 4: games where the beginning really is. I get asked a
• 21:20
  Speaker 4: lot here elsewhere, you know, friends text, what's going on
• 21:25
  Speaker 4: with this guy?
• 21:26
  Speaker 3: What's the deal?
• 21:27
  Speaker 4: To be honest, I don't have a clue what the
• 21:29
  Speaker 4: deal is. The first pitch of the series Friday Night, McClanahan,
• 21:33
  Speaker 4: first pitch of the bottom of the first inning. So
• 21:35
  Speaker 4: it's not the first pitch of the game, but it
• 21:37
  Speaker 4: is the first pitch the Angels are going to see.
• 21:39
  Speaker 4: He hacks at a ball a foot and a half outside.
• 21:43
  Speaker 4: I mean, the box pretty much explains a lot of it. Yeah,
• 21:47
  Speaker 4: here it is at number one.
• 21:48
  Speaker 1: Where's that It's not that down the middle fastball that
• 21:52
  Speaker 1: zach Netto usually links to it.
• 21:55
  Speaker 4: No, I don't see any approach at all at the
• 21:57
  Speaker 4: plate right now, pure hacking, no fight with two strikes,
• 22:02
  Speaker 4: a lot of weird swings, corkscrew off balance, seems to
• 22:06
  Speaker 4: be entirely trying to do one thing and one thing
• 22:10
  Speaker 4: only it's the long ball. He's pimping balls that don't
• 22:14
  Speaker 4: go out of the ballpark. He's pimping balls that go
• 22:17
  Speaker 4: out by a mere foot, and the broadcasters are, you know, saying, hey,
• 22:21
  Speaker 4: he must have really known he got it. I don't
• 22:23
  Speaker 4: think that's the case at all. I think it just
• 22:25
  Speaker 4: was in case. In case it did go out, I'm
• 22:27
  Speaker 4: going to be up here looking cool. Yeah, it's like,
• 22:33
  Speaker 4: you know, the the demonstrative emotional stuff. It looks like
• 22:37
  Speaker 4: somebody stole his lunch money, really kind of pouting out there.
• 22:42
  Speaker 4: I haven't really had a big appetite to talk about
• 22:46
  Speaker 4: him as much. He's he's doing his own thing. We're
• 22:51
  Speaker 4: kind of, you know, this is this is the job.
• 22:52
  Speaker 4: Though we have to talk about it. He's not part
• 22:55
  Speaker 4: of the pack. We're going to say it's a pack mentality.
• 22:58
  Speaker 4: He's not part of the pack. He's doing his own thing.
• 23:00
  Speaker 4: He looks very frustrated. Was someone probably his defense is suffering.
• 23:05
  Speaker 4: He's gotten you know, he has stolen bases. Yes, he's
• 23:08
  Speaker 4: also gotten caught stealing quite a bit, so his base
• 23:11
  Speaker 4: running value is not as high as it probably could be.
• 23:15
  Speaker 4: The defensive errors there was a mental mistake that was
• 23:20
  Speaker 4: not counted as an error, and then he threw one
• 23:22
  Speaker 4: in the dirt. That man seeing he picked him up on,
• 23:24
  Speaker 4: but really the lack of hustle that I will not
• 23:28
  Speaker 4: I've called out multiple players already and he is not hustling.
• 23:32
  Speaker 4: And people wonder do managers, you know, is that still
• 23:35
  Speaker 4: a thing? Do they do it well last year or so?
• 23:37
  Speaker 2: No?
• 23:37
  Speaker 4: But here are some examples if you wonder who has
• 23:40
  Speaker 4: gotten bench Glabor Torres twenty twenty four, Aaron Boone lack
• 23:43
  Speaker 4: of hustle, Brian Snicker Bench, Marcelo Zuna and Ronald Acunyu Junior.
• 23:48
  Speaker 4: One was in twenty three, one was in twenty nineteen,
• 23:50
  Speaker 4: Alex Redue in twenty twenty three by Alex Cora, and
• 23:53
  Speaker 4: Luis Robert Jr. In twenty twenty three by Hero Brifall.
• 23:57
  Speaker 4: So yes, it still happens. I don't think it would
• 24:00
  Speaker 4: become extinct for no particular reason, but I think it
• 24:04
  Speaker 4: would be a good time for Kurt to say, or
• 24:07
  Speaker 4: at least I'm sure that they have had talks trying
• 24:09
  Speaker 4: to figure out what's going on with this guy, but
• 24:12
  Speaker 4: it's not really worked. And in my opinion, I don't
• 24:15
  Speaker 4: think hitting him lead off makes a lot of sense.
• 24:17
  Speaker 4: Are you seeing a leadoff hitter?
• 24:19
  Speaker 2: Not at all?
• 24:19
  Speaker 1: And I've mentioned this on the show before there has
• 24:23
  Speaker 1: to be a message sent, whether it's one on one
• 24:25
  Speaker 1: meeting verbally with Kurt the GM or whatever it is,
• 24:29
  Speaker 1: or a message has to be sent by Hey, we're
• 24:31
  Speaker 1: dropping you down to the seven hole in the order
• 24:33
  Speaker 1: or the seventh spot something like that, you know, maybe six,
• 24:37
  Speaker 1: maybe fifth. But I definitely would drop him out of
• 24:39
  Speaker 1: the order, mainly because I think you have some other
• 24:42
  Speaker 1: candidates right now who could lead off for this team
• 24:44
  Speaker 1: and can give you some pretty good options, Wade Meckler
• 24:47
  Speaker 1: being one. But yeah, it must be Zech had had
• 24:52
  Speaker 1: such a great year last year and he seemed to
• 24:54
  Speaker 1: be on such a trajectory to start him and I
• 24:57
  Speaker 1: don't know what's going on with him this year. It is,
• 25:00
  Speaker 1: you know, everything you just mentioned all true, and then
• 25:02
  Speaker 1: you watch him. I think it was the fifth ending
• 25:04
  Speaker 1: today he goes way over in the whole backhands a
• 25:07
  Speaker 1: grounder by Camon Arrow two on, he makes a perfect
• 25:11
  Speaker 1: one hop you know, throw to first get some So
• 25:14
  Speaker 1: the talent is not a question of talent, it's a
• 25:17
  Speaker 1: question of consistency of effort. And you've you've mentioned Mike
• 25:22
  Speaker 1: Trout how many times this guy is going to be
• 25:24
  Speaker 1: thirty five years old, he's won three MVPs. Granted he
• 25:27
  Speaker 1: hasn't won a playoff game. He's not he hasn't won
• 25:29
  Speaker 1: a World Series, but he's done everything individually in this
• 25:32
  Speaker 1: game you can accomplish. And he's still busting out a
• 25:35
  Speaker 1: box out of a box on a routine pop up
• 25:39
  Speaker 1: because you just never know. And I don't know why
• 25:41
  Speaker 1: Trout has not rubbed off on this kid more. You know,
• 25:44
  Speaker 1: Ron Washington seemed to get to him a bit last year.
• 25:49
  Speaker 1: For some reason, nothing's getting through this year. And I
• 25:52
  Speaker 1: don't know if it's because, you know, Kurt's the first
• 25:54
  Speaker 1: year manager, a former player who is not far removed
• 25:58
  Speaker 1: from his playing days at all. But yeah, someone needs
• 26:02
  Speaker 1: to come down on this.
• 26:03
  Speaker 4: Overall numbers are still respectable. The batting average is way
• 26:07
  Speaker 4: too low for a guy with his talent, but the
• 26:10
  Speaker 4: power numbers are there. The ops he drew all those
• 26:12
  Speaker 4: early walks, which has helped him in the on base
• 26:14
  Speaker 4: percentage regard. Recently he has not been getting on base
• 26:17
  Speaker 4: at a high clip. But it really, you know, it
• 26:20
  Speaker 4: takes these a couple series away from really looking the part.
• 26:25
  Speaker 4: The thirteen home runs look nice, He's driven in some runs,
• 26:28
  Speaker 4: He's got some stolen bases. Yeah, he's got caught stealing
• 26:31
  Speaker 4: the airs. You're not going to be able to erase those,
• 26:33
  Speaker 4: But you can't improve the fundamentals and start I think
• 26:38
  Speaker 4: it starts with the attitude. Need to see a consistent attitude.
• 26:42
  Speaker 4: That and I think Logan O Hoppy has talked about
• 26:45
  Speaker 4: his attitude and he's in a better place, seems to be,
• 26:48
  Speaker 4: you know, and the mental part is a big deal.
• 26:51
  Speaker 4: Now some guys, how do you improve the mental part?
• 26:53
  Speaker 4: You got to get more hits and that appears to
• 26:55
  Speaker 4: be what netto you know, he's I think he lacks
• 26:58
  Speaker 4: maturity and perspective. He still has an outstanding set of tools,
• 27:04
  Speaker 4: makes that play you're talking about and makes you know,
• 27:06
  Speaker 4: some other ones that are world class. But a lot
• 27:09
  Speaker 4: is left to be desired this season.
• 27:11
  Speaker 1: Yeah, Hey, we're going to close the show of the
• 27:13
  Speaker 1: trade roomer that popped up on Sunday courtesy of Bob Nightingale,
• 27:17
  Speaker 1: my old LA Times colleague, now with USA Today. The
• 27:21
  Speaker 1: Phillies are desperately looking to acquire an outfielder at the
• 27:25
  Speaker 1: trade deadline, with a Doulas Garcia expected to miss the
• 27:28
  Speaker 1: rest of the season with his torn lat and have
• 27:31
  Speaker 1: Angels right fielder Joe Adell and Cubs right fielder Saya
• 27:35
  Speaker 1: Suzuki on their radar.
• 27:38
  Speaker 2: Well.
• 27:38
  Speaker 1: First of all, kudos to the Phills for setting their
• 27:41
  Speaker 1: site pretty high.
• 27:41
  Speaker 2: I think this is the time of year to do it.
• 27:45
  Speaker 2: You know.
• 27:46
  Speaker 1: The Angels are twenty nine and forty three. They're still tied,
• 27:49
  Speaker 1: I believe, for the with Kansas City for the worst
• 27:51
  Speaker 1: record in the league, but they are only seven and
• 27:55
  Speaker 1: a half games out in the American League worst.
• 27:58
  Speaker 2: I think thee would be wise to listen to pretty
• 28:03
  Speaker 2: much on anything on all of their players right now.
• 28:05
  Speaker 1: We talked about that on a previous show, especially this
• 28:09
  Speaker 1: early before the trade deadline, where a team with an
• 28:13
  Speaker 1: obvious need that's an obvious contender like the Phillies might
• 28:17
  Speaker 1: be willing to overpay.
• 28:18
  Speaker 2: For a guy like Joe Adell. Uh, but I don't know.
• 28:21
  Speaker 1: What do you think, Mark, We're still not even a
• 28:24
  Speaker 1: month away from you know, serious trade rumors beginning. Uh,
• 28:29
  Speaker 1: what do you think when you saw this, this rumor?
• 28:31
  Speaker 1: And would you entertain a trade if it was.
• 28:36
  Speaker 3: A lot of things like that from Bob over the years?
• 28:40
  Speaker 2: Yeah?
• 28:41
  Speaker 3: Where where does Bob get those? I wonder if.
• 28:46
  Speaker 4: On another show, maybe we can get into the how
• 28:48
  Speaker 4: how the world works?
• 28:49
  Speaker 3: Oh what what?
• 28:52
  Speaker 4: I do think the Angels are playing a lot better
• 28:56
  Speaker 4: baseball this? Uh could Well, I'm not going to beat
• 29:01
  Speaker 4: a dead horse. But their direction is different, or their
• 29:05
  Speaker 4: game planning is different than other teams. Other teams that
• 29:08
  Speaker 4: have the worst record would look to probably move guysing
• 29:11
  Speaker 4: and they have moved guys. It's not as if they
• 29:13
  Speaker 4: haven't done that before. But it's hard because if they continue,
• 29:17
  Speaker 4: Let's say they have a good series against the Diamondbacks
• 29:20
  Speaker 4: and battle Sacramento. Let's say they win both of those series,
• 29:26
  Speaker 4: the momentum is only going in one direction. It could
• 29:28
  Speaker 4: be a reversal, of course, if there was a thought
• 29:31
  Speaker 4: to sell. But I do think that sometimes the early
• 29:34
  Speaker 4: bird gets the worm.
• 29:35
  Speaker 3: And if a.
• 29:36
  Speaker 4: Team Dave Dave Dombrosk, I mean, he'll pay, like that's
• 29:40
  Speaker 4: one thing he will do if he wants the player,
• 29:42
  Speaker 4: he's willing to give. You know, he understands you've got
• 29:44
  Speaker 4: to give something up. And I don't not too familiar
• 29:48
  Speaker 4: with the Philly system, but sure I could take a look,
• 29:51
  Speaker 4: pick a couple of guys, maybe three, say hey, we'll
• 29:53
  Speaker 4: take this, you know, top maybe a top ten prospect,
• 29:57
  Speaker 4: in their system or two would be great. Think major
• 30:00
  Speaker 4: league ready talented is exactly what you'd look for, but
• 30:03
  Speaker 4: who knows what a package might look like. And Joeydell's
• 30:06
  Speaker 4: hot right now you can't ignore that. Good time to
• 30:09
  Speaker 4: grab them? Yeah all right?
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