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High Pressures Rise Ahead of Thursday Night Football | Jaguars Reporters · The Jacksonville Jaguars Official Podcast Network

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  Speaker 1: Welcome into another edition of the Jaguars Reporters Podcast, JP Shadwick,
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  Speaker 1: Kai Stevens, Brian Sexton, John Oser, three game win streak
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  Speaker 1: for the Jaguars, and a lot of focus on the
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  Speaker 1: left knee of a quarterback this week leading into Thursday
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  Speaker 1: Night Football. As we record this on Tuesday, the Jaguars
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  Speaker 1: will have a practice Tuesday afternoon and as of the
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  Speaker 1: last Doug Peterson press conference, Brian and Hey, it's stay
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  Speaker 1: to day, but we all.
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  Speaker 2: Yeah, we don't know anything at this point, right They do.
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  Speaker 2: They have some idea of where he's at. He knows
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  Speaker 2: where he's at.
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  Speaker 1: I went on.
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  Speaker 2: Record with our jag Zam the other day of saying,
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  Speaker 2: if it's even a question, just said, it's a non
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  Speaker 2: conference game, it's a third game in twelve days. You've
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  Speaker 2: got ten more games and a lot of important football
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  Speaker 2: in front of you. Don't take a chance, but you
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  Speaker 2: know he and Doug are going to have the ultimate
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  Speaker 2: decision based on where he's at. And as at this moment,
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  Speaker 2: we're all kind of guessing.
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  Speaker 1: We think Kai.
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  Speaker 3: For me, I think my biggest thing is the injuries
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  Speaker 3: to the O line, because yeah, maybe he can play,
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  Speaker 3: but who's going to protect him when he's out there. Right,
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  Speaker 3: We've got Walker little that still hasn't practiced as of
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  Speaker 3: Monday per Tuesday, Like, as far as we know, he
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  Speaker 3: hasn't practiced. He's dealing with that knee injury. There's injuries
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  Speaker 3: all across the line. We don't know if Sheriff's going
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  Speaker 3: to be able to go, and even if he's out there,
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  Speaker 3: can they protect Trevor. So for me, I don't know
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  Speaker 3: exactly what they're gonna do. If Sheriff can go, maybe
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  Speaker 3: I would say go with Trevor too, but it'll be
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  Speaker 3: a game time decision. I'm sure.
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  Speaker 4: Well, it's the old thing, you know, Is the knee
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  Speaker 4: healthy enough for him to protect himself on the field
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  Speaker 4: against big, strong, violent human beings? And I don't know
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  Speaker 4: the answer to that. Sometimes coaches come out on Monday
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  Speaker 4: and not. Doug does this a lot. He'll say day
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  Speaker 4: to day, and what it means is, I don't feel
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  Speaker 4: like telling you and I'm not going to play. I
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  Speaker 4: feel like this really is day to day. I feel like,
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  Speaker 4: you know, on Thursday, they will be testing it, trying
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  Speaker 4: to figure out if it's a good idea from the
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  Speaker 4: player or not. I can't even venture a guess or
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  Speaker 4: what the percentages are, But I do believe that it's
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  Speaker 4: unknown and that there's a chance he play.
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  Speaker 2: It's worth noting turning rupt. It's worth noting that Normally,
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  Speaker 2: you know, they say the stay today stuff on Monday,
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  Speaker 2: You're like, yeah, whatever, the other team's going to prepare
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  Speaker 2: for everybody they have time. This is a week where
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  Speaker 2: they don't. This is a week where maybe there's a
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  Speaker 2: little strategicy in there.
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  Speaker 1: Yeah, so what you did there. But it's really gonna
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  Speaker 1: come down to Trevor. Does he want to go out
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  Speaker 1: there and do it. That's when it comes down to.
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  Speaker 4: It, and doctors testing it. And but if doctors say no,
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  Speaker 4: then he want But it is sound. It's going to
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  Speaker 4: be that. So it's a we'll see situation. I wish anymore.
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  Speaker 1: We'll see either way. They're gonna probably hand it off
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  Speaker 1: to Eat in a good bit. They've he leads the
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  Speaker 1: league in carry sky and you know, at some point
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  Speaker 1: there's a lot of football important games down the stretch.
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  Speaker 1: They're all important. I mean, it's at what point do
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  Speaker 1: you start maybe divvying out some of these touches for
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  Speaker 1: ETN and some of these other running backs.
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  Speaker 3: Right now just run them, just run eat in Now.
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  Speaker 3: I want to see Tank get involved a little bit,
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  Speaker 3: of course, but he's just been Etan's just he can
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  Speaker 3: be every kind of runner that you want him to be,
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  Speaker 3: if you want him to get outside, if you want
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  Speaker 3: him to you know, run through the gaps like whatever,
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  Speaker 3: you know, goal line. He's been able to do a
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  Speaker 3: little bit of everything, and he's really evolved in a
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  Speaker 3: unique way that I don't think anybody of us, any
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  Speaker 3: of us, but he expected before the season started. He's
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  Speaker 3: been the MVP so far on offense as far as
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  Speaker 3: I'm concerned. So just keep feeding him, That's that's what
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  Speaker 3: I would do.
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  Speaker 4: Yeah, it's it's easy to say on Wednesday that you're
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  Speaker 4: gonna get some packages in and make sure you run Tank,
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  Speaker 4: and then when it's third and important on in the
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  Speaker 4: third quarter and it's a four point game, you say, well,
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  Speaker 4: I really like trun Travis right here. Yeah, so that's
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  Speaker 4: sort of I think sometimes Trevor's Jelima win Ridley's on
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  Speaker 4: the field boy, I like throwing in the ball because
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  Speaker 4: he's really good. And so I think they will try
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  Speaker 4: to run Tank more and take a little bit of
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  Speaker 4: the load off Etn. But when these things matter, he's
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  Speaker 4: so good and plays that it's hard not to call
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  Speaker 4: his number JIP.
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  Speaker 2: I think it was on this podcast right after the
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  Speaker 2: draft we talked about Breton Strange and Tank Bigsby the
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  Speaker 2: second and third round picks, and if there's a role
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  Speaker 2: for them and if they contribute in their rookie seasons.
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  Speaker 2: That shows the depth of this offense. Well, last week
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  Speaker 2: we saw Strange with his coming out party, right. He'd
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  Speaker 2: been a very good blocker the last couple of games
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  Speaker 2: in London, but he finally got the ball in his
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  Speaker 2: hands and did something with it. I think we're going
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  Speaker 2: to see that from Tank Bigsby at some point. You
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  Speaker 2: guys probably heard the same thing. He hasn't mastered the protection,
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  Speaker 2: so there's a worry about putting him out there in
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  Speaker 2: too many situations where he might get the quarterback hit.
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  Speaker 2: But I remember that long run he had out here
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  Speaker 2: on this practice field during training camp, thinking this is
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  Speaker 2: a guy whose moment is going to come this year,
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  Speaker 2: and I still believe that over the course of the
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  Speaker 2: rest of the season. Part of it is me wondering
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  Speaker 2: how long you can keep Travis Etn at the top
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  Speaker 2: of the league. Charts in terms of attempts right because
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  Speaker 2: he still doesn't strike me as that three hundred carry guy,
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  Speaker 2: but he's getting it done right now. I think we're
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  Speaker 2: going to see Big Sby at some point good too.
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  Speaker 4: I think what it gives you Tank is that if
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  Speaker 4: you don't have Travis for a game or two, you're
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  Speaker 4: not absolutely terrified of the situation. I think Tank would
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  Speaker 4: be playing more except all of a sudden, Travis went
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  Speaker 4: from being a good starter running back in the NFL
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  Speaker 4: to one of the top five or six running backs
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  Speaker 4: in the NFL. And when you're a playmaking guy who's elite,
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  Speaker 4: which I think Travis is. To get to that point now,
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  Speaker 4: it's hard to get those guys off the field in
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  Speaker 4: the big situation.
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  Speaker 2: Well, we talked to training camp about Bigsby and you
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  Speaker 2: thought this was a guy that had special characteristics. So
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  Speaker 2: what does it say about the talent level on this
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  Speaker 2: football team with a guy with that kind of potential
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  Speaker 2: still hasn't been able to find his way on the field.
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  Speaker 2: There's a lot of offense I think over the second
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  Speaker 2: half of the season to come.
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  Speaker 4: The other factor for Big B two is, you know,
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  Speaker 4: with blocking that becomes sort of a third down issue. Well,
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  Speaker 4: it's easy to say, well, then play tank on first
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  Speaker 4: and second down, But first and second down is when
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  Speaker 4: you want Travis on the field, putting you in good
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  Speaker 4: third down situation. So again it goes back to it's
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  Speaker 4: easy to say rotate, and then when you've got a
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  Speaker 4: star in the rotation, it's easy to want that start
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  Speaker 4: to play.
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  Speaker 2: You weren't here, But when Maurice Jones Drew was a
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  Speaker 2: rookie in two thousand and six, it was Fred Fred Fred,
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  Speaker 2: and then they just sprinkled in enough Maurice Jones Drew
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  Speaker 2: on offense to be that change up, to be that
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  Speaker 2: thing that made the defense with one. That's what we
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  Speaker 2: haven't seen yet, right, and that's what I anticipate seeing.
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  Speaker 2: It was very productive and six and oh seven for
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  Speaker 2: those two guys together, it happened.
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  Speaker 1: At some point, we'll come back and get into the defense. Yes,
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  Speaker 1: the defense is really leading the way for this Jaguars
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  Speaker 1: team early in the season. This is Jaguars Reporters. Welcome
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  Speaker 1: back to the Jaguars Reporters Podcast. JP Shadwick, John Osier,
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  Speaker 1: kuy Stevens, Brian Sexton. Week seven, Thursday Night, The Jaguars
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  Speaker 1: and the New Orleans Saints at the Caesar super Dome. Well,
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  Speaker 1: this defense is number one in the league in takeaways,
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  Speaker 1: fifteen of them. They are number three in the league
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  Speaker 1: against the run. That's where it starts, John, That run
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  Speaker 1: defense is stout. They made it an emphasis, of course
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  Speaker 1: last week against India running team, and then Gardner had
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  Speaker 1: to throw it up in the air a bit. But
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  Speaker 1: they're making plays in the back end and taking the
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  Speaker 1: ball away and playing good, solid defense.
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  Speaker 4: Well, they're feeding into the strength, they're feeding into their
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  Speaker 4: own strengths. About that, I mean, when you stop the
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  Speaker 4: run on first down, you get into the second and eleven,
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  Speaker 4: which gets you into passing situations, which guess what gets
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  Speaker 4: you into turnover situations. And they're good at it. They
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  Speaker 4: emphasize it. I've been saying for a few weeks and
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  Speaker 4: I'm a broken record on it. It's time to stop
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  Speaker 4: debating whether these guys are good. They're a good defense,
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  Speaker 4: and in forty two game or in what is it
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  Speaker 4: three games, under called well on defense they have forty
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  Speaker 4: two turnovers. They do it all the time. So I'm
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  Speaker 4: usually a believer that turnovers can be sort of fluky
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  Speaker 4: and sort of circumstantial at some point that's what they did.
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  Speaker 1: Yeah, what do you think, I mean that it's becoming
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  Speaker 1: I mean it is in their DNA now of sorts.
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  Speaker 3: You can't really deny it. That's a big part of
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  Speaker 3: how they play their game obviously as well, right, because
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  Speaker 3: they're giving the offense extra opportunities. The offense too, we
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  Speaker 3: don't believe has figured it out to the degree and
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  Speaker 3: has not been as successful as they can be, but
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  Speaker 3: giving them extra possessions has to help them out. That's
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  Speaker 3: helped them get ahead and win some of these games
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  Speaker 3: and kind of flip the mindset of this team. I
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  Speaker 3: think as well. It's such a boost when you can
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  Speaker 3: get an interception or force of fumble or something. It
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  Speaker 3: just really changes the vibe on the sideline, if you will,
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  Speaker 3: and gets everybody going in a different way because it
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  Speaker 3: feels like extra free money. And for them to be
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  Speaker 3: able to do that consistently multiple times in each games,
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  Speaker 3: it's huge.
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  Speaker 2: Can I have a little cold water to this equation though? No, Boy,
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  Speaker 2: as much as we talk about the Trevor Lawrence injury,
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  Speaker 2: the Tyson Campbell one is concerning because Monterrek Brown did
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  Speaker 2: not hold up very well last week. They went after
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  Speaker 2: him with Michael Pittman, who's a big receiver, and Brown
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  Speaker 2: just didn't seem to be fully aware. Now maybe that
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  Speaker 2: changes if he has to play over an extended period
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  Speaker 2: of time and gets more practice reps. Though there's not
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  Speaker 2: a lot of practice reps this week, and Chris a
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  Speaker 2: Lave and Michael Thomas are sitting out there waiting for him,
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  Speaker 2: the Jaguars are going to have to have that pressure
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  Speaker 2: is going to have to be better, and they're gonna
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  Speaker 2: have to dial something up John on the back end
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  Speaker 2: to protect Brown. I mean, there's some other guys you
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  Speaker 2: could throw in the mix, but Brown was the first
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  Speaker 2: one off the bench. So that's who I soon will start.
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  Speaker 1: Yeah, and I think to Von Campbell is most likely
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  Speaker 1: the call up if they have to call it from
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  Speaker 1: the practice squad. I think that's because he's a veteran player.
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  Speaker 1: He's been around it, so he's probably gonna get the nod.
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  Speaker 4: It's why the league has done a good thing by
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  Speaker 4: the practice squad at elevations, because a guy like Devon
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  Speaker 4: Campbell can be there for you and you need him.
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  Speaker 4: I've said for a couple of weeks, I think the
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  Speaker 4: three most important players on defense are Trayvon Walker, Josh
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  Speaker 4: Allen and Tyson Campbell. And I don't know what order
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  Speaker 4: to put it in, but when you take one of
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  Speaker 4: those pieces out, if you take the first two guys out,
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  Speaker 4: all of a sudden, you're not as stout and you're
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  Speaker 4: not as good up front. Take Tyson out. Yeah, it's
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  Speaker 4: a word.
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  Speaker 2: I'll give you something to consider. Antonio Johnson is back
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  Speaker 2: in the lineup now after missing most of the first
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  Speaker 2: month with the hamstring, and the word was was he
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  Speaker 2: was a guy who could play inside in the nickel.
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  Speaker 2: He's got that skill set. You could see Trey Herndon
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  Speaker 2: move outside. You know he's not as good out there,
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  Speaker 2: but you're not gonna put it Tenio Johnson out there now.
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  Speaker 4: But I think they leave Trey where he is because
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  Speaker 4: you made the two positions.
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  Speaker 2: It could be I wouldn't feel comfortable if I were
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  Speaker 2: to Shay Townsend with Monterrek Brown against these receivers this
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  Speaker 2: week on the turf indoors with the noise, I think
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  Speaker 2: that might overwhelm them. I might take my chances this
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  Speaker 2: week because of Antonio Johnson, right, because you don't have
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  Speaker 2: greg Junior. And if Gregory Junior was here.
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  Speaker 4: And I don't think they think Antonio is a cover
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  Speaker 4: nickel though, So it's uh, you're setting them up to struggle,
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  Speaker 4: but they could.
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  Speaker 1: I mean.
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  Speaker 2: The struggle on the back end.
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  Speaker 1: We think, what would you do?
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  Speaker 3: I have no idea what to do. I mean, that's
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  Speaker 3: why I don't get paid to do that, obviously, I
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  Speaker 3: certainly don't make their paycheck. I think for me, I
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  Speaker 3: think the thing that will help is the Saints have
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  Speaker 3: a lot of injuries. You know, a lot of it
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  Speaker 3: was on their injury report and a lot of other Yeah,
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  Speaker 3: they're they're dealing with a lot of their own and
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  Speaker 3: their offense looked not great against the Texans in their
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  Speaker 3: last game, so you have that going for them. They
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  Speaker 3: have frustration on their end. So I feel like if
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  Speaker 3: you can get the run stop early and you know,
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  Speaker 3: kind of get pressure on them, you might rattle them
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  Speaker 3: enough that then this kind of doesn't become as a
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  Speaker 3: huge of an issue.
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  Speaker 1: Well, there wasn't caring the coordinator in each other's It
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  Speaker 1: wasn't good face on the sideline, I apologize on the
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  Speaker 1: plane all this stuff.
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  Speaker 4: Yeah, so sure, yeah, that's when you do it. Playing
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  Speaker 4: they're struggling in the red zone. To me, this game
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  Speaker 4: feels like we've all seen Thursday games, and you know
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  Speaker 4: the Thursday thing. It's not going away because of the money,
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  Speaker 4: but it doesn't really promote good football. Thursday games are
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  Speaker 4: usually sloppy. They're they're usually games where the storyline is
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  Speaker 4: injuries because guys don't have time to get back. Both
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  Speaker 4: teams will be dealing with it. To me, it feels
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  Speaker 4: like a fourth quarter game where something weird happens at
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  Speaker 4: the end. The Jaguars have been flexing their muscles in
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  Speaker 4: those kind of games. If you're a turnover based defense
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  Speaker 4: that makes big plays and you're a scrappy team, then
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  Speaker 4: you go figure out a way to win this game
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  Speaker 4: with or without the quarterback.
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  Speaker 2: Hey the Browns, Hey Hey Roy beat PJ with PJ
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  Speaker 2: Walker journeyman who wasn't even a camp with them, beat
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  Speaker 2: the Niners last Sunday, and the Jets without their two
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  Speaker 2: starting corners, saw Us Gardner, who's as good as there
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  Speaker 2: is in the league, and DJ Reid, who we saw
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  Speaker 2: last year is a very talented guy, and they went
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  Speaker 2: out there and beat Jalen Hurts and AJ Brown in
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  Speaker 2: the Eagles. You may have to play without some key starters.
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  Speaker 2: You may have play with the quarterback. You know, if
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  Speaker 2: those guys can be them, you should be able to
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  Speaker 2: go and win on Thursday NCT Quarters.
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  Speaker 1: Next man up.
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  Speaker 4: Any given Thursday, Thursday night Football.
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  Speaker 1: Get your ear plugs ready for the Caesar Superdome. The
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  Speaker 1: Jaguars and the Saints coming up. Brian Sexton, Kai Stevens,
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  Speaker 1: John O's you're m J. P. Shadwick. Thank you for listening.
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  Speaker 1: We'll catch you next time on Jaguars Reporters