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Democrats' Insane New Bro whisperer: Will Dean Withers win over men? | Maintaining Frame 161 · Honey Badger Radio

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  Speaker 1: Hello and happy fourth of July everybody, and welcome to
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  Speaker 1: Honey Badger Radio. My name is Brian here with Allison,
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  Speaker 1: and this is maintaining frame number one sixty one. Democrats
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  Speaker 1: insane new bro whisperer will date will Dean Winters win
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  Speaker 1: over men? Is it Winters or Withers? I thought it
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  Speaker 1: was Withers.
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  Speaker 2: Yeah, it might have been auto corrected to Winters.
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  Speaker 1: They just.
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  Speaker 2: Look at our notes. Yes, Withers. It auto corrected to Winters. Sorry,
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  Speaker 2: as usual, autocorrect makes everything worse. Yeah, but yeah, this
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  Speaker 2: is this is the new I thought we'd take a
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  Speaker 2: look just check in on the Democrats trying to appeal
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  Speaker 2: to men. Their latest efforts. Instead of just stop making
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  Speaker 2: men their scapegoat and try to deal with that and
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  Speaker 2: and actually consider men's issues, they've they've come up with
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  Speaker 2: the new individual to attempt to sell being told that
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  Speaker 2: you are the problem and to blame for everything two
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  Speaker 2: men again. Yeah, that's that is the strategy. So I
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  Speaker 2: thought we would take a look at who that person
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  Speaker 2: is and see if he's up to snuff for selling
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  Speaker 2: men on taking the blame. So, yeah, so do you
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  Speaker 2: this is this is a really interesting like situation because
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  Speaker 2: the Democratic Party is aware of why they lost the
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  Speaker 2: presidential election, and a big part of it is are
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  Speaker 2: possibly even the main part of it is is they
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  Speaker 2: just simply lost Men. Used to be that men would
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  Speaker 2: young men in particular would vote liberal or progressive, and
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  Speaker 2: women tended to be more conservative. That flipped like I
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  Speaker 2: think ten years ago, and and now they just can't
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  Speaker 2: rely on the young male vote anymore because I guess
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  Speaker 2: men are just really tired again being told that they
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  Speaker 2: are to blame. So what the Democratic Party has done
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  Speaker 2: in response to that is they've trotted out a series
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  Speaker 2: of man whisperers, who are the what was the previous one?
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  Speaker 2: We look the queer woman of size queer Oh yeah, yeah.
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  Speaker 1: Yeah, I forget her name. It was like Olivia something.
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  Speaker 1: I mean, like, well they're throwing they're throwing everything at
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  Speaker 1: the wall to see what sticks. So like, you know,
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  Speaker 1: guys like this guy's been around since twenty twenty two.
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  Speaker 1: So he was active during you know, like the the
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  Speaker 1: Biden administration, and he was friends. He was friends with
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  Speaker 1: Harry Sisson, who was sort of like the face of
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  Speaker 1: like the zoomer you know, let's say liberal influencer for men,
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  Speaker 1: Harry Sisson, and he was his buddy. They would like be,
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  Speaker 1: you know, do photo shoots together. I remember they were
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  Speaker 1: like they were part of the white Dudes for Kamala
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  Speaker 1: Harris campaign and all of that. So you still have
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  Speaker 1: Harry Sisson. He's kind of laying low right now because
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  Speaker 1: you know, he got like me too, basically, like some
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  Speaker 1: girls came forward and said that, you know, he was
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  Speaker 1: hitting on them and their dms or whatever, and so
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  Speaker 1: he's got to lay low for a while because you know,
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  Speaker 1: it's like you have to like at once be like
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  Speaker 1: a male feminist, which this guy is you have to
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  Speaker 1: be a male feminist, which means you have to respect women,
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  Speaker 1: but you're also a twenty year old dude that's heterosexual,
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  Speaker 1: and it's like, how do you square that circle? Well,
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  Speaker 1: you're just gonna, hopefully either you're gonna have to remain
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  Speaker 1: celibate like some kind of monk, or you're going to
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  Speaker 1: have to, like, you know, be very very cautious about
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  Speaker 1: who you, you know, mess around with. Yeah, when you're yeah,
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  Speaker 1: when you're dealing with like what kind of girls does
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  Speaker 1: very Yeah, what kind of girls does a guy who
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  Speaker 1: is a popular leftist influencer attract that? And that's what
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  Speaker 1: you're gonna get, so, Harry says, and asal Low, Dean
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  Speaker 1: Withers is kind of the face right now because he's
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  Speaker 1: not in trouble with a girl and Olivia I think
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  Speaker 1: her name is Olivia, but I don't want to, you know,
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  Speaker 1: with respect, I don't know her name, but that woman
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  Speaker 1: and there's plenty of other ones too. I think they're
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  Speaker 1: just throwing everything at the wall. Call her Daddy podcast
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  Speaker 1: I think is part of it too, But for the
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  Speaker 1: with the female.
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  Speaker 2: Side, you know, so yeah, yeah, throwing everything at the wall,
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  Speaker 2: just trying to find something that sticks and makes men
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  Speaker 2: swallow the line that they are to blame in a
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  Speaker 2: world that's increasingly disenfranchising young men in favor of artificially
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  Speaker 2: inflating girls.
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  Speaker 1: Yep.
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  Speaker 2: Yeah, and we have all the stats on that. So
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  Speaker 2: boys get lower grades in school, they do not have
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  Speaker 2: access to scholarships going into college. In some cases, they've
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  Speaker 2: been discriminated against in terms of college enrollment. They don't
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  Speaker 2: get the same access to jobs coming out of college.
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  Speaker 2: So it's a situation where this patriarchy which exists in
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  Speaker 2: some sort of intermitable past, but also today because it's
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  Speaker 2: worse than ever before according to Gloria Steinem, but this
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  Speaker 2: thing is used to explain why young men are disenfranchised today.
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  Speaker 2: And again, as I've said many times, patriarchy as imagined
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  Speaker 2: by feminism, which is a system put in place by
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  Speaker 2: men to privilege themselves over women, has never been proven
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  Speaker 2: to exist. Yes, men are in authority, but men in
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  Speaker 2: authority does not necessarily mean women are oppressed. You actually
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  Speaker 2: have to prove that causal relationship, and feminists never have.
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  Speaker 2: So we're using a completely unsupported, unscientific conjecture about how
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  Speaker 2: we arrange or how the relationship between men and women
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  Speaker 2: are arranged in order to support active disenfranchisement of young men,
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  Speaker 2: and young men are waking up to that and saying, hey,
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  Speaker 2: we are not really that interested in voting for the
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  Speaker 2: party that's doing that, Okay, And now that party is
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  Speaker 2: turning around and saying, hmm, if we ever want to
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  Speaker 2: win a presidency again, we better solve this. And their
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  Speaker 2: solution is, how do we coat the poison apple with
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  Speaker 2: enough candy that men will swallow it? Or I don't
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  Speaker 2: even know if Dean Winters can qualified as candy? How
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  Speaker 2: could we how can we coat the poison apple with
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  Speaker 2: enough more poison than men's swallow it?
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  Speaker 1: Yeah?
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  Speaker 2: Lord, okay, uh, let's uh, what do you got? What
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  Speaker 2: do you want to start with? We got a little
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  Speaker 2: pop pre.
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  Speaker 1: Uh, well we have we have two TikTok videos, and
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  Speaker 1: then we have well you sent me like a guy responding.
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  Speaker 2: There's a couple I got. I gave you a couple
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  Speaker 2: of time codes in that, and I thought that might
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  Speaker 2: be interesting. Yeah. Actually, And the the other thing I
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  Speaker 2: want to mention is we're going to look at as
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  Speaker 2: well at the end while we go through examining the
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  Speaker 2: democratic strategy to appeal to men. We'll look at the
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  Speaker 2: statement that the White House has recently made, well maybe
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  Speaker 2: not recently, but a while back. I can't believe I
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  Speaker 2: missed it, but made on the status.
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  Speaker 1: It was it was, Yeah, it was in mid June. Yeah,
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  Speaker 1: mid June, because June was Men's Men's Mental Health Month
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  Speaker 1: and the White House put out a statement about men's
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  Speaker 1: mental health. We'll look at that later.
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  Speaker 2: I don't want to spoil it, so yeah, yeah, we'll
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  Speaker 2: look at that later. So we'll see how both I
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  Speaker 2: don't even know if you can call it both sides.
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  Speaker 2: We'll get into that as well, but we'll look at
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  Speaker 2: that later, all right, So why don't we just start
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  Speaker 2: with h oh, it's such a difficult decision?
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  Speaker 1: Well, this this clip is short, and then there's like
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  Speaker 1: there's like a like a compilation of him of Dean
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  Speaker 1: Withers statements to various people that call in, and then
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  Speaker 1: there's the reaction video. I think that the first video
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  Speaker 1: is the first two TikTok videos are probably good for
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  Speaker 1: sort of establishing like what kind of person we're dealing
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  Speaker 1: with here, but a little bit of information about Dean
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  Speaker 1: Withers before we get into it. So Dean Patrick Withers
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  Speaker 1: Here is a twenty year old American live streamer and
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  Speaker 1: political commentator known for his progressive views and engaging in
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  Speaker 1: political debates on social media platforms, particularly TikTok, where he
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  Speaker 1: has a mass over two billion followers. So his thing
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  Speaker 1: is that he lets people call in and debates them
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  Speaker 1: on TikTok. That's his whole shick okay. And he is
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  Speaker 1: very progressive, and I mean like in every sense of
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  Speaker 1: the word. Like whatever the progressive thing is, he's behind
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  Speaker 1: it one hundred percent. And he's appeared on Jubileese media.
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  Speaker 1: The Jubileese YouTube series Surrounded, debating conservative figures like Charlie Kirk,
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  Speaker 1: Nick Fuentes, and Ben Shapiro as well as twenty Trump
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  Speaker 1: supporters in a notable episode. So the Surrounded series was
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  Speaker 1: very popular where they had like twenty people with the
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  Speaker 1: Sharon ideology debate one person and they have like a
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  Speaker 1: time limit and the other people can vote the person out,
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  Speaker 1: like you know, if they're not doing if they don't
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  Speaker 1: think they're doing well, they can vote them out and
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  Speaker 1: then another person comes. Recently, Candice Owens did a Surrounded
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  Speaker 1: against a bunch of feminists, so that was a pretty
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  Speaker 1: I watched it was like an hour and forty minutes
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  Speaker 1: and that was pretty decent as well, so they can
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  Speaker 1: be fun, you know, the Surrounded series. Anyway, Can I just.
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  Speaker 2: Ask, like, why is it that nobody is talking about
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  Speaker 2: talking to actual men's issues advocates, Like it's always the
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  Speaker 2: left versus the right, and they assume that the right
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  Speaker 2: is advocating specifically for men's issues. I think that they're
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  Speaker 2: less actively hostile to the very concept. But wouldn't it
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  Speaker 2: be better just to actually talk, like could the left
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  Speaker 2: possibly just talk to us about the issues that men
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  Speaker 2: face and potentially discuss what they might want to do
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  Speaker 2: or recommend in terms of government interventions into trying to
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  Speaker 2: help men, which is I think a force multiplier for
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  Speaker 2: improving society since men are primarily responsible for constructing said society.
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  Speaker 2: But no, they don't talk about that. They just put
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  Speaker 2: forth these man whisperers and argue with Republicans and it's
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  Speaker 2: just it feels like the entire discourse is so it's
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  Speaker 2: like hollow, you know.
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  Speaker 1: Do you want my answer the question? Yeah, because the
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  Speaker 1: people that they pick have clout. They're picking people who
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  Speaker 1: actually people know, so they're not just getting anybody who
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  Speaker 1: happens to have the best arguments. They're getting the people
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  Speaker 1: that have the most influence that, I think because Jubilee
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  Speaker 1: is progressive itself. And we know this because Christoph Petkau's
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  Speaker 1: was on a panel right and recorded it. And I've
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  Speaker 1: seen other people who have made appearances. Blue Orange twenty
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  Speaker 1: two for example, had been on there as well. But
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  Speaker 1: those guys, they don't They're not going to end up
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  Speaker 1: on a surrounded episode because they don't have the clout. See,
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  Speaker 1: we need clout so we can go on those things,
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  Speaker 1: but we don't have the cloud. We stay small. No,
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  Speaker 1: I'm serious. It doesn't matter that we have the best arguments.
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  Speaker 1: It doesn't matter that we would demolish everybody because nobody
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  Speaker 1: knows who we are. It's relevant. Well, I was invited
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  Speaker 1: on Jubilee, but yeah, I know, but you didn't. You
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  Speaker 1: didn't go, So maybe.
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  Speaker 2: Again, maybe I'll get invited again. Maybe My problem was, like,
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  Speaker 2: I don't know if I'm gonna chance trying to go
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  Speaker 2: over that border to talk to Jubilee. You know, but
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  Speaker 2: I don't even know what happened to that that they
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  Speaker 2: wanted to do a men's rights activist panel. I don't
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  Speaker 2: even know what happened to that idea if they even
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  Speaker 2: actually no, wait, I think they did.
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  Speaker 1: They invited orangended up on, Yeah, the one that blue.
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  Speaker 2: Orange ended up on, which I guess it went okay.
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  Speaker 2: Like and again, I don't know if I'm the best
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  Speaker 2: debater either for these issues, but yes, Jublie has invited
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  Speaker 2: me on. It's just an issue of getting across the border.
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  Speaker 1: Like, and I don't know if ultimately if you're if
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  Speaker 1: you're saying why don't they ask MRAs? And then I'm like,
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  Speaker 1: but because they don't know who we are. And then
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  Speaker 1: you say, well, they asked me, but I could. I
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  Speaker 1: didn't go because I'm scared of the border. Well, then
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  Speaker 1: what are we arguing about.
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  Speaker 2: I actually talk to a an immigration attorney, and you
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  Speaker 2: know there there is issues with going across the border.
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  Speaker 2: And and the problem is that a lot of these
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  Speaker 2: interpretations of these laws are up to whatever border agent
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  Speaker 2: you get. So it's a crapshoot, it's a it's a uh,
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  Speaker 2: it's a sorry, guys, the lights are bothering my eyes today.
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  Speaker 2: It's a bit of you never know, and it's it's
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  Speaker 2: hard to plan for that, right, And and Jubilee wasn't
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  Speaker 2: willing to. Well, they were sort of if I could
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  Speaker 2: give them one hundred percent assurance that I would get through,
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  Speaker 2: I'm like, no, I can't give you that because it
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  Speaker 2: depends on who the border agent is, and so they
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  Speaker 2: would have had to move their filming into the time
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  Speaker 2: where I was no longer banned from the US, and
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  Speaker 2: I couldn't say, yeah, for sure, I'll be able to
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  Speaker 2: get through. So they, you know, I just said, you know,
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  Speaker 2: I can't do it, you know or and ultimately that's that.
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  Speaker 2: So it wasn't even in a situation. Yeah, they did ask,
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  Speaker 2: and unfortunately, because of the fact that I was banned
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  Speaker 2: from the US for five years, I wasn't able to go.
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  Speaker 2: But they so they do know us.
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  Speaker 1: It's just yeah, but that's not the same as the
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  Speaker 1: thing is if they get so here here are some
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  Speaker 1: of the people they've had on their surrounding series. They've
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  Speaker 1: had Candae Owans, They've had Jordan Peterson, they've had Ben Shapiro,
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  Speaker 1: they've had Michael Knowles, they've had who else there was
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  Speaker 1: I mentioned Jordan Peterson, Charlie Kirk, so the and these
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  Speaker 1: are all people that oh, they Andrew Wilson and these
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  Speaker 1: are all people who have made a name for themselves online,
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  Speaker 1: probably by being either well funded as in the Daily
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  Speaker 1: Wire guys are that's for sure, or they like like
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  Speaker 1: Andrew Wilson, he just goes into other people's TikTok spaces
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  Speaker 1: or or Twitter spaces and he debates them and he
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  Speaker 1: records it and he puts it on the internet and
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  Speaker 1: everybody watches it. So he literally gets his hands dirty
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  Speaker 1: online enough to the point where people are like, we
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  Speaker 1: can't ignore this guy, so they basically they bring him on.
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  Speaker 1: And I think a lot of the reason because most
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  Speaker 1: of the time the surrounded series is usually like they
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  Speaker 1: get like somebody who is very successful with these debates,
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  Speaker 1: and they put them against a bunch of others that
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  Speaker 1: maybe they're less prominent, and so like, you know that
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  Speaker 1: that's the thing, Like I don't And the thing is
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  Speaker 1: even the best of our people will never get on there.
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  Speaker 1: Paul Elam has no interest in doing that, so it's
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  Speaker 1: not like something he would do. Warren Ferrell, it's not
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  Speaker 1: his type of you know, that's not his arena. He
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  Speaker 1: doesn't debate people. You know, he's too soft, he's too kind,
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  Speaker 1: so he'd rather just have conversations with that, which I understand. Yeah, So,
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  Speaker 1: like so what we would have to do. I think
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  Speaker 1: even if they know who we are, there's also the
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  Speaker 1: possibility that they don't want somebody who's legitimate on there
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  Speaker 1: because they can't straw man us by saying, oh, well,
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  Speaker 1: you know you're you're you're this, you know, you're like
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  Speaker 1: this kind of person or whatever, like they think it's
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  Speaker 1: easier to like because if we're on there like these
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  Speaker 1: you know guys like like Christoph who got the you know,
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  Speaker 1: the Hassan like stamp of fear on him, calling him
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  Speaker 1: you know, that's how we get the machines meme because
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  Speaker 1: he is a machine. And so that's what that's how
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  Speaker 1: it would be. But and and Karen's not gonna do it, right, So,
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  Speaker 1: like we we have to if what we need is
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  Speaker 1: to make a name for ourselves, and the only way
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  Speaker 1: we're gonna do that is if we we got to
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  Speaker 1: put ourselves out there in more ways than just like
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  Speaker 1: doing these kind of responsibil I think we need to
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  Speaker 1: go onto where the kids are at, like TikTok, and
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  Speaker 1: I think we need to like confront people. We need
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  Speaker 1: to be like get our hands dirty. So okay, I
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  Speaker 1: mean I would, yeah, because they want to want to
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  Speaker 1: get people on that will draw the audience. Like, that's
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  Speaker 1: what I'm saying. When you see you know, Charlie Kirk
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  Speaker 1: versus twenty liberals on there on whatever topic, more people
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  Speaker 1: are oh I want to see that because they know
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  Speaker 1: who Charlie Kirk is, or they know who Jordan Peterson
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  Speaker 1: is or whoever. But they don't know who we are.
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  Speaker 1: So it's not gonna nobody's gonna care. I mean, like,
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  Speaker 1: uh so, what even if we have the best arguments.
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  Speaker 2: So that's unfortunate.
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  Speaker 1: Okay, see people in kick What's up Cross two Towns? Oh,
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  Speaker 1: He's just this is a bot offering to yeah, get
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  Speaker 1: us more followers. Okay, anyway, that that's the reason I think. So,
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  Speaker 1: you know, but again, at least some people.
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  Speaker 2: The pros getting more there more clout is that we
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  Speaker 2: potentially are the most unsharable content ever created. And it's
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  Speaker 2: not because of necessarily the streams. It's just people are
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  Speaker 2: really scared of sharing our content. So they watch our content,
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  Speaker 2: but they don't want to share it with anyone because
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  Speaker 2: they're afraid of the blowback. Because you know, we're on
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  Speaker 2: apologetic and the honest to God. Truth is that you
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  Speaker 2: can't be You can't make concessions in this. You can't say, well,
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  Speaker 2: will advocate for men's issues, but only insofar as it
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  Speaker 2: doesn't offend women, because instantly, once you set that bar,
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  Speaker 2: the most easily offended woman will be the standard you
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  Speaker 2: have to live up to, which means you not talking
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  Speaker 2: about these issues at all. Right, and then in the
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  Speaker 2: instant you allow other people to control that kind of
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  Speaker 2: moral landscape and what is correct, what is morally correct,
• 18:37
  Speaker 2: You're done for because then feminists will pop out of
• 18:41
  Speaker 2: the woodwork and say the very existence of men's rights
• 18:44
  Speaker 2: advocates is a is an aggression against us. And then
• 18:50
  Speaker 2: you're suddenly dealing with that threat narrative that's directed against you.
• 18:54
  Speaker 2: And so it's I understand how difficult this is because
• 18:59
  Speaker 2: nobody wants to do that line. Nobody wants to draw
• 19:02
  Speaker 2: that line in concrete and say no, we can't have
• 19:06
  Speaker 2: we can't continue to have a place that's entirely manipulated
• 19:10
  Speaker 2: and controlled by women's sensibilities. You know that they don't
• 19:14
  Speaker 2: want to hear certain things, and they'll say it's offensive,
• 19:18
  Speaker 2: but because it makes them feel stupid or it makes
• 19:22
  Speaker 2: them feel like they aren't the end all and be
• 19:24
  Speaker 2: all of emotional vulnerability or whatever else. You know, you
• 19:28
  Speaker 2: can't have that because these things have to be discussed
• 19:31
  Speaker 2: freely and without any censorship or concession to women's sensibilities.
• 19:35
  Speaker 2: And people don't want to do that. Conservatives don't want
• 19:38
  Speaker 2: to do that. A lot of Christians don't want to
• 19:40
  Speaker 2: do that. Feminists certainly don't want to do that because
• 19:43
  Speaker 2: this is how they get most of their stuff done, right.
• 19:46
  Speaker 2: So it's like it is difficult to really get this
• 19:50
  Speaker 2: stuff out there and get people sharing it because again,
• 19:53
  Speaker 2: it does have blowback in people's lives, and they just
• 19:55
  Speaker 2: don't want to face that. They don't want to talk
• 19:59
  Speaker 2: about it, right. And I mean, part of, you know,
• 20:02
  Speaker 2: some of the issue now is that conservatives are in
• 20:05
  Speaker 2: the same position where we were in years and years ago,
• 20:08
  Speaker 2: in which a lot of their stuff can't be talked
• 20:11
  Speaker 2: about impolite company anymore. And I would argue that the
• 20:15
  Speaker 2: reason why what they talk about can't be talked about
• 20:17
  Speaker 2: in polite company anymore is because it's based on men's
• 20:22
  Speaker 2: ideas of boundaries, which have become verbotan, like they've become
• 20:28
  Speaker 2: what keeps us from utopia. So for example, the fact
• 20:32
  Speaker 2: that men are concerned about immigration. That's a boundary that's
• 20:36
  Speaker 2: saying we can't take on the world and have a
• 20:39
  Speaker 2: successful culture. We have to have some kind of bar
• 20:44
  Speaker 2: between the world and us. And that's a very that's
• 20:47
  Speaker 2: a masculine framework. You know, you got to have the wall,
• 20:50
  Speaker 2: you got to protect the wall, you got to guard
• 20:51
  Speaker 2: the wall. You know, have centuries whatever masculine framework. And
• 20:55
  Speaker 2: because we are now in a world that is at
• 20:58
  Speaker 2: war with masculinity, that's no longer a sensible position. That's
• 21:03
  Speaker 2: an offensive position because it is what's keeping the world
• 21:07
  Speaker 2: from utopia. If we are if we if we removed
• 21:10
  Speaker 2: all the boundaries, you know, we would have utopia. And
• 21:14
  Speaker 2: you don't even and that idea doesn't even consider who
• 21:18
  Speaker 2: you're bringing in at all. It's just this idea of
• 21:20
  Speaker 2: bringing everyone in, we'll create utopia. You tear it down
• 21:23
  Speaker 2: the walls, and suddenly everybody's holding hands and singing kumbaya.
• 21:27
  Speaker 2: That is a feminine idea. That is something that is
• 21:32
  Speaker 2: very much rooted in a misunderstanding of the boundaries that
• 21:38
  Speaker 2: men place in order to maintain safety, security, and justice.
• 21:42
  Speaker 2: And the individuals who are promoting this are very much
• 21:45
  Speaker 2: like this is this is going to bring about this
• 21:48
  Speaker 2: is a more feminine approach to the world, and it's
• 21:51
  Speaker 2: going to bring about joy and love everywhere. We just
• 21:54
  Speaker 2: have to tear down those boundaries. Don't vet the people
• 21:57
  Speaker 2: who come in at all, you know, just bring everybody in,
• 22:00
  Speaker 2: because it's the boundary itself that's creating the justice. And
• 22:05
  Speaker 2: once we get rid of it, we'll all be in heaven.
• 22:08
  Speaker 2: And that's a delusion. And this is something that I realized.
• 22:12
  Speaker 2: I was actually reading The Heart of Darkness, which is
• 22:14
  Speaker 2: about the boundaries that men place in order to create
• 22:18
  Speaker 2: places that are safe and orderly and just. And at
• 22:21
  Speaker 2: one point, the narrator says that if women ruled the world,
• 22:26
  Speaker 2: the world would end up imploding because of some reality
• 22:32
  Speaker 2: that men face every day and just deal with and
• 22:35
  Speaker 2: live with that women just can't see and wouldn't be
• 22:40
  Speaker 2: able to accommodate and wouldn't be able to understand. And
• 22:43
  Speaker 2: I think that it's really precient because I think that's
• 22:47
  Speaker 2: what we're dealing with now, and nobody wants to Nobody,
• 22:50
  Speaker 2: none of the big political apparati want to talk about
• 22:54
  Speaker 2: that because I think both sides in some ways benefit
• 22:58
  Speaker 2: from the situation. As it is. Okay, let's sorry about that, Brian.
• 23:02
  Speaker 1: Oh no, that's okay. Well, all I'll say is that
• 23:05
  Speaker 1: to to what you're saying about what conservatives are not
• 23:08
  Speaker 1: willing to say. Andrew Wilson does say it often, and
• 23:12
  Speaker 1: he's got a massive platform. He's even got his own
• 23:14
  Speaker 1: show on Rumble now. And Myron Gains of Fresh and
• 23:16
  Speaker 1: Fit has no problem saying it either, and he makes
• 23:18
  Speaker 1: appearances on college campuses. So this conversation is changing and
• 23:23
  Speaker 1: there are people who are changing it by doing that.
• 23:26
  Speaker 1: So I don't think that that is also unique to
• 23:29
  Speaker 1: us either. So we just got to work it out.
• 23:34
  Speaker 2: Brian.
• 23:35
  Speaker 1: No, I don't want to retire, Alison. I mean, like
• 23:37
  Speaker 1: I can't retire. I'm living hand in mouth. I'm just
• 23:40
  Speaker 1: telling you that, like these these we're not unique in
• 23:44
  Speaker 1: that way. There are people who are doing it and
• 23:46
  Speaker 1: they're successful, so we don't really have an excuse anyways.
• 23:52
  Speaker 1: All right, fine, all right, so let's let's do you
• 23:55
  Speaker 1: want to watch this.
• 23:56
  Speaker 2: Then sure, let's watch it.
• 23:58
  Speaker 1: I'm gonna play it, mister Myke.
• 24:00
  Speaker 3: We'll go and take it away for us and tell
• 24:01
  Speaker 3: us why you voted for Trump.
• 24:05
  Speaker 1: I'm pausing it there, do you guys hear that, okay,
• 24:07
  Speaker 1: or because it's it's low in my headphones, but it
• 24:10
  Speaker 1: might not be on the street. Might be okay because
• 24:13
  Speaker 1: my headphones are ship they're cheap.
• 24:15
  Speaker 2: So well, between two candidates, I just thought that he
• 24:20
  Speaker 2: would be the safer option for No, it is quite low.
• 24:24
  Speaker 2: You're gonna have to somehow.
• 24:26
  Speaker 1: I have it upped already here. I could turn Yeah.
• 24:33
  Speaker 2: Apparently it sounds good for the guys in the.
• 24:37
  Speaker 1: But I think it's low on TikTok. Maybe it's the
• 24:40
  Speaker 1: quality of this TikTok video. So I haven't turned up
• 24:45
  Speaker 1: all the way so anyway, all right, so he says,
• 24:48
  Speaker 1: I think it would be safer, okay, considering the choices
• 24:52
  Speaker 1: option for you know, country and world peace.
• 24:58
  Speaker 3: Okay, thank you so much for your explanation there, Michael.
• 25:02
  Speaker 3: I do, and I think that Donald Trump has proved
• 25:04
  Speaker 3: that proposal wrong. Since his inauguration, he's proposed possibly using
• 25:09
  Speaker 3: the military to invade Greenland, which would start a war.
• 25:12
  Speaker 1: Well this is back when this was back when no, no, no,
• 25:15
  Speaker 1: well let me let me so, I mean, obviously no,
• 25:18
  Speaker 1: but I think that Trump has talked about Greenland when
• 25:23
  Speaker 1: when he first got in office, right, and I don't
• 25:25
  Speaker 1: think he specifically said Annexit, but maybe he did. I
• 25:28
  Speaker 1: don't know, but he talked about it, he floated it
• 25:31
  Speaker 1: at least, And because the Left is looking for anything
• 25:37
  Speaker 1: that they could use to like essentially discredit him, they
• 25:41
  Speaker 1: jumped on that. And so he's gonna invade. He's gonna
• 25:44
  Speaker 1: invade England, you know, because he's he's literally the mustmash
• 25:47
  Speaker 1: mustache man. He's literally that guy. He's literally Hitler, don't
• 25:51
  Speaker 1: you know. So anyway, that's what that's what he's saying,
• 25:55
  Speaker 1: like he's gonna We're gonna be at war. Obviously this
• 25:58
  Speaker 1: is all of this content didn't age well. But okay,
• 26:01
  Speaker 1: let's keep.
• 26:02
  Speaker 3: Going between America and Europe. He wants to go into
• 26:07
  Speaker 3: the Gaza Strip, occupy own it, forcefully, expel and remove
• 26:10
  Speaker 3: one point four million Palestinians, which would most likely imply
• 26:14
  Speaker 3: a battle between like a lot of Palestinians and Moss
• 26:18
  Speaker 3: and our American troops. And then it's also the case
• 26:21
  Speaker 3: that if we end up getting what Trump wants from Ukraine,
• 26:24
  Speaker 3: which would be mineral deposits, well then all of a
• 26:26
  Speaker 3: sudden we'll have American boots on the ground defending Ukraine
• 26:30
  Speaker 3: from Russia. So you know, anyway you look at it, Man,
• 26:33
  Speaker 3: I don't think he's good for I mean, that's just
• 26:36
  Speaker 3: actual war fighting, death and ethnic cleansing. This doesn't account
• 26:40
  Speaker 3: for his economic wars, placing blanket tariffs and all goods
• 26:43
  Speaker 3: imported into our country which erode and destroy foreign relations.
• 26:48
  Speaker 3: We seriously have some of our strongest allies now launching
• 26:51
  Speaker 3: counter tariffs back onto our own country. And he so
• 26:54
  Speaker 3: Michael didn't even stick around to give a response to
• 26:57
  Speaker 3: what we just said. There, Michael, and you think that
• 27:02
  Speaker 3: I've had enough and I'm going to leave now. So
• 27:05
  Speaker 3: Michael's gone, Oh.
• 27:09
  Speaker 2: Okay. So now my own position is that I think
• 27:12
  Speaker 2: you can criticize Trump on on the spending. It's really
• 27:15
  Speaker 2: unfortunate that the Republicans are now going the same direction
• 27:20
  Speaker 2: as the Democrats with this extreme amount of spending. And
• 27:24
  Speaker 2: in my opinion that the only real parties are parties
• 27:28
  Speaker 2: that are going to stop the government spending and parties
• 27:31
  Speaker 2: that are going to continue it. So show me the
• 27:34
  Speaker 2: party that's going to say no, we can't continue to spend.
• 27:36
  Speaker 2: And again, this is around the world. This isn't just Trump,
• 27:39
  Speaker 2: and it may not even be a situation that can
• 27:41
  Speaker 2: be fixed until everything just implodes, and it will implode
• 27:45
  Speaker 2: because governments around the world are basically living off of debt,
• 27:50
  Speaker 2: debt that they are progressively less and less able to
• 27:53
  Speaker 2: pay even the interest on. So somebody is going to
• 27:56
  Speaker 2: be left with the debt hot potato and that's going
• 28:00
  Speaker 2: to be spectacular when it starts. But regardless, so again,
• 28:05
  Speaker 2: this might be not be a situation that he can change.
• 28:08
  Speaker 2: As I said to Brian before, the economic situation I
• 28:10
  Speaker 2: think is well out of the hands of government to
• 28:13
  Speaker 2: a degree they can. They can. I think they can
• 28:17
  Speaker 2: exploit the economy, but I do not think that they
• 28:20
  Speaker 2: create economy. And right now we're dealing with a lot
• 28:23
  Speaker 2: of issues in terms of AI taking jobs, and it
• 28:26
  Speaker 2: may not even be that AI can actually do those jobs.
• 28:29
  Speaker 2: It's just that employers are trying are waiting out to
• 28:33
  Speaker 2: see what AI can do before they hire, which means
• 28:36
  Speaker 2: we have a whole generation of young people who aren't
• 28:39
  Speaker 2: getting those first jobs getting their foot in the door
• 28:42
  Speaker 2: in order to be able to do this kind of
• 28:44
  Speaker 2: stuff or to get a new job and start participating
• 28:48
  Speaker 2: in the economy and building it. So I mean, this
• 28:50
  Speaker 2: is this is this is a big thing, and I
• 28:55
  Speaker 2: often wonder when I look at all of the stuff
• 28:57
  Speaker 2: that's going on, if one of the reasons why he
• 28:59
  Speaker 2: got in and then this may be a very controversial statement,
• 29:01
  Speaker 2: is that the powers that be realized it was this
• 29:04
  Speaker 2: is going to be a disaster, and they were fine
• 29:06
  Speaker 2: with handing him the bag, and he was willing to
• 29:09
  Speaker 2: step up and try to make something out of it,
• 29:11
  Speaker 2: which I will give him props for, Like the tariffs
• 29:14
  Speaker 2: may not be the way to go, but something needs
• 29:18
  Speaker 2: to be done, okay, and actually taking the first step
• 29:24
  Speaker 2: to trying to fix what's going on this gigantic debt
• 29:28
  Speaker 2: bubble that we're all facing is is at least he's
• 29:32
  Speaker 2: doing something which is better for people who just get
• 29:35
  Speaker 2: lost in a nurse shut. Right, and his statements about
• 29:40
  Speaker 2: the wars we've already seen are false. There are no
• 29:44
  Speaker 2: new wars, right, Iran has conceded, you know, so at
• 29:50
  Speaker 2: least on that score, you have to give him props.
• 29:54
  Speaker 2: May be unorthodox, but he seems to have dragged the
• 30:00
  Speaker 2: the US out of a potential war with Iran. While
• 30:06
  Speaker 2: interestingly enough, and I don't know if this was planned
• 30:09
  Speaker 2: or if what happened, is he he was pushing towards
• 30:13
  Speaker 2: this kind of war with Iran, and and then his
• 30:15
  Speaker 2: base was like no, and then he turned around it
• 30:18
  Speaker 2: in one eighty. Don't know, don't care, because if that's
• 30:21
  Speaker 2: that's the case, then men are actually stepping up and
• 30:25
  Speaker 2: pulling the world out of war. I want people to
• 30:28
  Speaker 2: think about that for a second. And it makes perfect
• 30:31
  Speaker 2: sense because men don't want to end up in a
• 30:33
  Speaker 2: war because there theirs is the skin in the game,
• 30:36
  Speaker 2: right And so regardless of how it happened, he's managed
• 30:42
  Speaker 2: to actually make a situation where Israel lost its moral,
• 30:53
  Speaker 2: moral positioning. I don't know, it's it's actually quite astounding
• 30:57
  Speaker 2: because you know, Israel was the underdog and all of this, boy,
• 31:00
  Speaker 2: we're about to get demonetized and hardly.
• 31:03
  Speaker 1: But they were certainly framed that way, but they're they're
• 31:06
  Speaker 1: framed that way.
• 31:07
  Speaker 2: They're framed as the underdog. Then Iran and Iraq are
• 31:10
  Speaker 2: Israel are lobbing missiles back and forth, and he comes
• 31:13
  Speaker 2: in and says, Okay, what's your problem Israel? Okay, we
• 31:16
  Speaker 2: got these targets. He bombs those targets and then says done, nobody,
• 31:21
  Speaker 2: that's over, and now Israel is stuck there. Okay, how
• 31:27
  Speaker 2: can you continue the war. Now your problem was a
• 31:29
  Speaker 2: potential nuclear arms program in Iran which has now been
• 31:34
  Speaker 2: bombed back into I don't know, the one hundred nineteen thirties,
• 31:38
  Speaker 2: So that's not happening. So where is your mandate? And
• 31:42
  Speaker 2: so it just it's like complete impotence now there on
• 31:46
  Speaker 2: both sides. And that was startlingly good. Like I can't
• 31:52
  Speaker 2: say that that was his intent, but that, you know,
• 31:55
  Speaker 2: well played either to Trump or to his base, which
• 31:59
  Speaker 2: is men.
• 32:01
  Speaker 1: Like why is it when Trump does something good, we
• 32:03
  Speaker 1: have to we have to like entertain the idea that
• 32:06
  Speaker 1: it was a complete accident because that didn't mean to do.
• 32:09
  Speaker 2: It, Because that is my interpretation.
• 32:12
  Speaker 1: It's not that I am But did Trump run on
• 32:15
  Speaker 1: invading anybody? Or did he run on ending wars or
• 32:19
  Speaker 1: at least like preventing them if possible. Well, I'm just
• 32:22
  Speaker 1: saying because that, like I can't stand it when people
• 32:24
  Speaker 1: get misrepresented. I'm saying that I don't look, there's when
• 32:27
  Speaker 1: you're looking at global geopolitics, there's a lot of people
• 32:30
  Speaker 1: that have like their pieces on the board, like in
• 32:33
  Speaker 1: the game of risk, and we're just one country. Now,
• 32:36
  Speaker 1: we're the one that a lot of people come to
• 32:38
  Speaker 1: with shit, but like whatever those people's designs are, Like
• 32:41
  Speaker 1: Zelensky wants to launder millions and billions of dollars out
• 32:44
  Speaker 1: of us, and he's like, no, I'm not doing that anymore.
• 32:47
  Speaker 3: Like it.
• 32:47
  Speaker 1: And if it turns out that he's able to strike
• 32:49
  Speaker 1: a deal so that, you know, uh, Putin is satisfied
• 32:53
  Speaker 1: with whatever the outcome is and Ukraine has just got
• 32:56
  Speaker 1: to deal with it because they don't have any cards.
• 32:58
  Speaker 1: We have to act like it's a it's just a
• 33:00
  Speaker 1: and like he just stumbled into success in this situation.
• 33:03
  Speaker 1: I don't, I don't. I don't know. Maybe he does.
• 33:05
  Speaker 1: Maybe the thing that he did well was surround himself
• 33:08
  Speaker 1: with good people who were able to help him accomplish
• 33:11
  Speaker 1: his goals. And all he says is, look, I just
• 33:13
  Speaker 1: don't want many more people going to war. He's not
• 33:15
  Speaker 1: sending troops to Ukraine. This guy just lies. He lies
• 33:19
  Speaker 1: because he's bought, because he does not he's he's well.
• 33:25
  Speaker 1: Look and with with the whole thing in the Middle East,
• 33:28
  Speaker 1: Like he basically did a surgical strike to take out
• 33:33
  Speaker 1: the uranium whatever the deposits were, the materials are going
• 33:36
  Speaker 1: to use for a nuclear weapon, and it's done, and
• 33:39
  Speaker 1: now he's like, Okay, stop fighting, and yeah, it's it's
• 33:42
  Speaker 1: net Yahoo. That's mad because he wanted regime change and
• 33:45
  Speaker 1: there were still Neo Khon's calling for it, but Trump's
• 33:48
  Speaker 1: not gonna give it to them. This is the best
• 33:51
  Speaker 1: possible outcome we could get or expect, all things considered,
• 33:55
  Speaker 1: especially like the long history with going back to Bill
• 33:58
  Speaker 1: Clinton and George W. Bush and everything else that's happened.
• 34:02
  Speaker 1: This is like, I don't know what is because there
• 34:04
  Speaker 1: are people who just want us to go to war
• 34:06
  Speaker 1: with Israel instead, And it's like, but we don't want
• 34:09
  Speaker 1: to go to war with anybody? How about that? How
• 34:11
  Speaker 1: about that? And so and yeah, I think there are
• 34:14
  Speaker 1: people who just want to prevent that. And again there
• 34:17
  Speaker 1: is this mentality that like we're gonna undo one hundred
• 34:21
  Speaker 1: years probably if or at least seventy years of damage
• 34:26
  Speaker 1: with one term. That's not gonna happen. All we can
• 34:28
  Speaker 1: hope for is that we can like set ourselves on
• 34:31
  Speaker 1: a path to like, you know, some kind of some
• 34:34
  Speaker 1: kind of let's say, you know, repairs done, some kind
• 34:38
  Speaker 1: of management. And I don't mean like managing the decline,
• 34:40
  Speaker 1: I mean like, you know, doing it in such a
• 34:42
  Speaker 1: way that there is a future for people like you know,
• 34:45
  Speaker 1: that's that's what I think. I think to suggest that
• 34:49
  Speaker 1: it's you know, Trump has other or like the idea
• 34:51
  Speaker 1: that he was allowed to be president, like they shot him,
• 34:55
  Speaker 1: like three times. People have tried to kill this man.
• 34:58
  Speaker 1: There was no there's no guys in the back like
• 35:01
  Speaker 1: with their fingers up, like, well, let him be president.
• 35:04
  Speaker 1: We missed on purpose. No, they tried to kill him.
• 35:08
  Speaker 1: You don't know times.
• 35:10
  Speaker 2: You don't know if that was done by the people
• 35:14
  Speaker 2: that the deep state or.
• 35:15
  Speaker 1: The We don't know that for sure, but like this
• 35:20
  Speaker 1: is kind of what happened to John F. Kennedy too. Well,
• 35:23
  Speaker 1: what are they gonna do? Like, are they gonna tell
• 35:25
  Speaker 1: him I'm sorry, Like, you know, the assassination attempts failed,
• 35:28
  Speaker 1: But you can't be president despite the fact that the
• 35:30
  Speaker 1: American people voted you in in like a landslide, both
• 35:34
  Speaker 1: popular vote and the you know, and the the electoral college,
• 35:38
  Speaker 1: Like we.
• 35:40
  Speaker 2: Like you on the side of the Republicans, the conservatives,
• 35:46
  Speaker 2: You say that Biden stole the election. If they can
• 35:51
  Speaker 2: do that, why would they not do it again? Well,
• 35:55
  Speaker 2: the same amount that didn't vote in the the the election,
• 36:00
  Speaker 2: Trump I'm just pointing this out, like this is stuff
• 36:03
  Speaker 2: that's you know, like inconsistencies in the narrative. Now, in
• 36:07
  Speaker 2: my opinion, if you're going to allow that the elections
• 36:10
  Speaker 2: are decided by the deep state rather than in the
• 36:15
  Speaker 2: Biden's case, you can't just arbitrarily say that isn't the
• 36:19
  Speaker 2: case with Trump. And I'm not saying that Trump is
• 36:22
  Speaker 2: part of the establishment. I'm actually thinking that there is
• 36:26
  Speaker 2: a lot of shit that's going on economically, and there
• 36:32
  Speaker 2: is a tremendous amount of destruction and when this AI
• 36:37
  Speaker 2: apocalypse in terms of jobs come due, and again, it
• 36:40
  Speaker 2: doesn't matter if AI is actually able to take over jobs.
• 36:44
  Speaker 2: What matters is if the people hiring believes it does, okay,
• 36:48
  Speaker 2: And if this comes true, the tax revenue of the
• 36:51
  Speaker 2: US is going to decline. Everywhere it's going to decline,
• 36:54
  Speaker 2: not just the US. And so far, the only legitimacy
• 36:57
  Speaker 2: to government debt is the fact that they can pay
• 37:00
  Speaker 2: the interests with people's income tax. And if that goes,
• 37:05
  Speaker 2: then good. It's like it's like a tsunami that's coming.
• 37:11
  Speaker 2: And I could imagine that if we're going to allow
• 37:14
  Speaker 2: that the deep state chooses people who do or chooses
• 37:18
  Speaker 2: the president that they would just want somebody don't like
• 37:22
  Speaker 2: to hold the bag while they scarper, while they disappear
• 37:26
  Speaker 2: with their ill gotten gains. Now that doesn't mean that
• 37:32
  Speaker 2: it's illegitimate. It could. I mean, honestly, yes, he was
• 37:36
  Speaker 2: voted in. But if you're going to allow that the
• 37:39
  Speaker 2: deep state determines even if a person is voted in,
• 37:43
  Speaker 2: whether or not they're going to go in by magicking
• 37:45
  Speaker 2: up another eight million votes to sway the election one
• 37:49
  Speaker 2: way or another, then there must be an aspect of
• 37:53
  Speaker 2: concession here. I'm just saying consistency in the narrative.
• 37:57
  Speaker 1: Well, I didn't, I don't. I don't know that it
• 38:00
  Speaker 1: was stolen in twenty twenty. I think there was some shenanigans,
• 38:04
  Speaker 1: but I don't know that it was like one hundred
• 38:05
  Speaker 1: percent that because there was a lot of propaganda and
• 38:08
  Speaker 1: like hopefully you know, if you were like somebody who
• 38:10
  Speaker 1: wanted Biden to get in an office in twenty twenty,
• 38:12
  Speaker 1: you were like dead set on it. There was enough
• 38:15
  Speaker 1: fear mongering going on that you know, there was a
• 38:19
  Speaker 1: probably enough people specifically like women, single women that came
• 38:24
  Speaker 1: out and voted for Biden, you know, and they do
• 38:28
  Speaker 1: everything at the wall. That's why you pick Kamala Harris
• 38:30
  Speaker 1: as vice president was specifically to get you know, the
• 38:33
  Speaker 1: women to be like, oh my god, first female pro
• 38:35
  Speaker 1: vice president. I want to see that. And then they
• 38:37
  Speaker 1: saw that and it was shit because she's worthless. But
• 38:41
  Speaker 1: but I think this time around, you know, Trump had
• 38:42
  Speaker 1: that saying too big to rig. It could be that,
• 38:45
  Speaker 1: I mean, you can't guarantee a victory by cheating, like
• 38:49
  Speaker 1: you can only like tilt the scales. So I don't know,
• 38:53
  Speaker 1: I'm but I was never one hundred percent on board
• 38:56
  Speaker 1: with the stolen election in twenty twenty. I think there
• 38:59
  Speaker 1: was definitely some you know, like I said, shenanigans, but
• 39:03
  Speaker 1: you can't it's not a guarantee. You're just you're just
• 39:05
  Speaker 1: tilting the scales in your favor in the hopes that
• 39:08
  Speaker 1: there's enough you know, not just fraud, but like enough
• 39:13
  Speaker 1: like convincing of people to go out and vote. Then
• 39:16
  Speaker 1: you do other things, mail in voting, you have dead
• 39:18
  Speaker 1: people voting, you know, and those things were happening.
• 39:21
  Speaker 2: But yeah, no, no, I mean, yes, there's all kinds
• 39:24
  Speaker 2: of freaking shenanigans. But anyway, let's get back on topic
• 39:28
  Speaker 2: because we now have this sort of argument, although I
• 39:31
  Speaker 2: will actually, you know what, I will say something to
• 39:34
  Speaker 2: what you said about how we're we need to or
• 39:38
  Speaker 2: Andrew Wilson is doing the things that you know, he
• 39:41
  Speaker 2: has said that he uses our arguments at least some
• 39:45
  Speaker 2: of them. So I think that us establishing these arguments
• 39:50
  Speaker 2: is actually really critical and making them. But the other
• 39:54
  Speaker 2: thing is that if you want to solve the economic issues,
• 39:58
  Speaker 2: and the economic issues are going to become parent amount
• 40:00
  Speaker 2: right when nobody can pay for anything. It doesn't matter
• 40:04
  Speaker 2: if you're a Republican or democrat. If the economy absolutely
• 40:10
  Speaker 2: tanks and the economy is one hundred percent something that
• 40:14
  Speaker 2: comes out of the relationship between men and women. Constructing
• 40:19
  Speaker 2: incentives for men to participate in the economy, to be creative,
• 40:25
  Speaker 2: to training and accepting the disruptors that men are in
• 40:31
  Speaker 2: order to create new small businesses, which facilitates the turnover
• 40:36
  Speaker 2: in the economy and the development or the increasing the
• 40:39
  Speaker 2: size of the economy. Like the prosperity of the late
• 40:43
  Speaker 2: nineties could probably be put on the shoulders of one disruptor,
• 40:48
  Speaker 2: Cloud Shannon in the nineteen thirties, and we don't have
• 40:52
  Speaker 2: that anymore because in terms of education. We discriminate against
• 40:57
  Speaker 2: the way boys learn, We discriminate against how how they
• 41:01
  Speaker 2: they function, We discriminate against the fact that they break rules,
• 41:05
  Speaker 2: and we're actually destroying the very basis of our economy.
• 41:10
  Speaker 2: And that is the thing that we all rely on.
• 41:12
  Speaker 2: Even to have these arguments about Republican or Democrat about
• 41:16
  Speaker 2: government spending, okay, and nobody is addressing that like this,
• 41:22
  Speaker 2: this this argument. I don't see this because the people
• 41:25
  Speaker 2: who are in a political position, I'm not, and I
• 41:28
  Speaker 2: don't want to come across as a smug centrist. But
• 41:31
  Speaker 2: my only position is we gotta fucking care about men
• 41:34
  Speaker 2: because men are the most critical resource if you want
• 41:36
  Speaker 2: to look at it, that term in a society. So
• 41:39
  Speaker 2: men first, politics second. But regardless, I don't see political
• 41:45
  Speaker 2: positions because all of them are invested in this idea
• 41:48
  Speaker 2: that government solves economic problems rather than being in the
• 41:52
  Speaker 2: way almost always right, so they are if you.
• 41:57
  Speaker 1: Work in government, then part of your job is to
• 42:02
  Speaker 1: justify yourself, right. So this is this is the like
• 42:06
  Speaker 1: I think Trump floated. I think he's trying to like
• 42:08
  Speaker 1: push for term limits on congress people and stuff. I mean,
• 42:13
  Speaker 1: that would be amazing because then like if your whole
• 42:15
  Speaker 1: career isn't government, then you're gonna be less. That's the thing.
• 42:19
  Speaker 1: Like everyone who works in government is to some degree
• 42:23
  Speaker 1: a statist. That's why they're working in government. So that
• 42:26
  Speaker 1: that's like it seems like a naxymoron, but it's the truth.
• 42:29
  Speaker 1: And everybody, well, like a lot of people know this.
• 42:31
  Speaker 1: I saw that was a guest on Tucker Carlson the
• 42:33
  Speaker 1: other day that basically said, like, everybody in the Congress
• 42:36
  Speaker 1: and Senate, in the House is like a communist to
• 42:39
  Speaker 1: some degree. And I know they don't like me saying that,
• 42:42
  Speaker 1: but it's true because their status to some degree, Like
• 42:45
  Speaker 1: they may have different ideas of how, but they're not interested.
• 42:48
  Speaker 1: That's why the bill, you know, where every time a
• 42:51
  Speaker 1: bill comes there's a bunch of guys that are like, well,
• 42:53
  Speaker 1: I want this, and the only way you're gonna get
• 42:55
  Speaker 1: it passed is if you like you have to like
• 42:57
  Speaker 1: play ball, So like, you know, how do you undo that? Well,
• 43:00
  Speaker 1: in the short term, you can't really, but maybe if
• 43:03
  Speaker 1: you like create, you know, if you put term limits,
• 43:06
  Speaker 1: which should have been there forever anyway, that might change
• 43:09
  Speaker 1: things because then you have people who are like, well,
• 43:11
  Speaker 1: I need to find another job after I'm done with
• 43:13
  Speaker 1: this or something. Right, So, I don't know, I'm just saying,
• 43:16
  Speaker 1: like we're we're I don't want to get into a
• 43:18
  Speaker 1: political conversation because we're not talking about this is a
• 43:21
  Speaker 1: show about men. But but the truth is is that
• 43:25
  Speaker 1: any government is filled with statists because they that's where
• 43:29
  Speaker 1: that's where the work is at, and their jobs are
• 43:32
  Speaker 1: to justify themselves. It's like, why does feminism exist to
• 43:37
  Speaker 1: perpetuate feminism? That's why the feminism always says the solution
• 43:41
  Speaker 1: to uh, you know, patriarchy is just more feminism, and
• 43:45
  Speaker 1: what is feminism is the state project. So and this guy,
• 43:49
  Speaker 1: by the way, fairly certain he is a state project
• 43:52
  Speaker 1: as well.
• 43:53
  Speaker 2: Yeah, And I mean maybe it's a controversial position to say,
• 43:56
  Speaker 2: but I think every politician's first no matter what party
• 44:01
  Speaker 2: they are, their first job or their first impulse is
• 44:05
  Speaker 2: to justify their existence and then to follow whatever politics
• 44:10
  Speaker 2: they say they do. So and again, in order to
• 44:14
  Speaker 2: solve these economic issues, we have to get right back
• 44:19
  Speaker 2: to the relationship between men and women and the fact
• 44:22
  Speaker 2: that American women, Western women, not just American women but
• 44:26
  Speaker 2: Western women in general have wholesale rejected men. They've rejected masculinity,
• 44:32
  Speaker 2: and they've rejected manhood. And if we do that, we
• 44:36
  Speaker 2: are no longer going to have the benefit of men
• 44:39
  Speaker 2: masculinity or manhood. So we have to solve that rejection,
• 44:43
  Speaker 2: and you can't somehow, you cannot solve it by then
• 44:49
  Speaker 2: once again appealing to women, because appealing to women is
• 44:53
  Speaker 2: giving them the power to do the rejection that's the
• 44:56
  Speaker 2: problem in the first place. So it is a wicked problem.
• 45:00
  Speaker 2: And I'm not sure I know you said, Brian, you
• 45:02
  Speaker 2: think other people. I don't think people are actually looking
• 45:04
  Speaker 2: at it that way. I really don't. I don't see
• 45:07
  Speaker 2: it because I don't know if they're making the connection
• 45:11
  Speaker 2: between average Jane reacting or rejecting average Joe and the
• 45:16
  Speaker 2: general economic collapse of our society. Our economy is a
• 45:21
  Speaker 2: breeding colony. Right, When you suffer breeding colony collapse, you
• 45:26
  Speaker 2: no longer have a colony or an economy. All right,
• 45:31
  Speaker 2: I'm gonna leave it there. Let's let's actually get into David.
• 45:36
  Speaker 1: This is actually a TikTok video by I l y
• 45:40
  Speaker 1: Dean and Parker. I love you Dean Parker. I guess okay,
• 45:44
  Speaker 1: and uh, this is just like a compilation of him
• 45:47
  Speaker 1: yelling at Trump supporters. Do you support Trump? Yes?
• 45:53
  Speaker 3: I do? Jesus Christ, mean, why is that? Why would
• 45:55
  Speaker 3: you ever support such a terrible president? Tell us, man,
• 45:59
  Speaker 3: why do you support this guy, this fucker Donald Trump?
• 46:03
  Speaker 1: Tell us why you support this lunatic?
• 46:05
  Speaker 3: Tell us why you support the orange pos Tell us
• 46:10
  Speaker 3: why you support this disaster of a presidential administration? Why
• 46:14
  Speaker 3: would you ever choose to support such a media I
• 46:16
  Speaker 3: go to it. Why do you support might be Donald?
• 46:19
  Speaker 3: And why do you believe in something so irresponsible?
• 46:22
  Speaker 2: No?
• 46:22
  Speaker 1: Why?
• 46:23
  Speaker 2: Please? What we're responding to isn't popping up on the show?
• 46:29
  Speaker 1: Oh oh because you made a noise?
• 46:32
  Speaker 4: Oh?
• 46:33
  Speaker 1: Which is to you when you do that? Okay, but
• 46:35
  Speaker 1: they can still hear it?
• 46:37
  Speaker 2: Okay, all right?
• 46:38
  Speaker 3: Wreck of a president? I mean, truly one of the worst.
• 46:41
  Speaker 3: Why do we still support this pos tilot?
• 46:44
  Speaker 2: Tell me take it away?
• 46:46
  Speaker 3: Why do you support the orange taco lunatic? Why would
• 46:50
  Speaker 3: you support the worst administration of your life? Hey? So,
• 46:57
  Speaker 3: do you support the worst president of your lifetime that's
• 46:59
  Speaker 3: ever lived? Mister fascist rapist? Donald J? Trump? There before
• 47:02
  Speaker 3: convicted felon like superve on naked teenagers?
• 47:04
  Speaker 2: Is that your guy?
• 47:06
  Speaker 1: Oh? We're gonna do we're doing the Fellon rapist thing again.
• 47:09
  Speaker 2: Okay, Oh god damn well, I can't really what Okay, alleged, right,
• 47:16
  Speaker 2: we're all about that here, okay, alleged okay. And also
• 47:21
  Speaker 2: what I want to talk about is not necessarily his
• 47:23
  Speaker 2: political position, but his affect and what he's using to
• 47:30
  Speaker 2: lambast people for supporting Trump. All right, that is a child.
• 47:36
  Speaker 2: It's a hysterical child in his affect. Like he looks
• 47:41
  Speaker 2: like he's not controlling his emotions, right, And I know
• 47:44
  Speaker 2: he'll get on my case if he ever heard this
• 47:47
  Speaker 2: that oh he has anxiety. Okay, No, and you know,
• 47:50
  Speaker 2: sometimes you do get emotional, you get loud, but that
• 47:53
  Speaker 2: is it's not just anger, it's contempt. Okay, it is
• 47:59
  Speaker 2: dismissal Right. If you genuinely want to know why people
• 48:03
  Speaker 2: are doing something, you don't ask the question like that.
• 48:06
  Speaker 2: So what he appears to be doing is lambasting people
• 48:10
  Speaker 2: who are men who supported Trump, using insults rather than
• 48:15
  Speaker 2: really understanding why they supported Trump. And a big one
• 48:20
  Speaker 2: is again no New Wars, the guy the people who said,
• 48:23
  Speaker 2: regardless of whether or not Trump is doing that, And sorry, Brian,
• 48:27
  Speaker 2: I'm not I'm actually arguing any alternative here. Regardless of
• 48:32
  Speaker 2: whether or not what Trump is doing or will do,
• 48:36
  Speaker 2: people supported him because they thought he would not create
• 48:40
  Speaker 2: new wars, right, Okay, the economic sision situations might might
• 48:45
  Speaker 2: be out of his hands completely. The bill, who the
• 48:47
  Speaker 2: hell knows, it's probably also out of his hands to
• 48:50
  Speaker 2: some degree. But he said he wasn't going to start
• 48:54
  Speaker 2: new wars. And for the men who are whose skin
• 48:58
  Speaker 2: is in the game on that, that probably is a
• 49:00
  Speaker 2: pretty big thing, okay, And that where's the discussion on that?
• 49:05
  Speaker 2: It's not there. He's just using shaming and insults to
• 49:09
  Speaker 2: dismiss the supposed position that he's trying to build bridges with.
• 49:15
  Speaker 2: What the hell is that?
• 49:17
  Speaker 1: Well, I mean he's uh, yeah, when did this come out? Well,
• 49:22
  Speaker 1: he's he's trying to use shame, which is like, yeah,
• 49:29
  Speaker 1: basically the step one of feminist logic shame men into
• 49:34
  Speaker 1: compliance by their.
• 49:36
  Speaker 2: Identity, manipulate their social approval, like their social acceptance, in
• 49:44
  Speaker 2: order to make them comply with things that actually hurt them.
• 49:48
  Speaker 2: Like if I were a man, I would vote for
• 49:51
  Speaker 2: Trump if he said no new wars simply because you know,
• 49:55
  Speaker 2: if I were a young man, I know I could
• 49:57
  Speaker 2: be drafted, right, have you considered that? No, Okay, then
• 50:03
  Speaker 2: they don't consider the reason. And that's the other thing.
• 50:05
  Speaker 2: They don't consider the reason and logical arguments. Everything is insults,
• 50:11
  Speaker 2: everything is hair pulling and scratchal.
• 50:15
  Speaker 1: Yet that there were no new wars started by Trump
• 50:17
  Speaker 1: when he was in office the first time around. I
• 50:20
  Speaker 1: remember people saying begrudgingly, oh, he didn't start any wars.
• 50:24
  Speaker 1: And then as soon as Biden got in, Russia invaded Ukraine.
• 50:27
  Speaker 1: Like the moment that happened so well, not the moment,
• 50:30
  Speaker 1: but like shortly after, right, Oh.
• 50:35
  Speaker 2: Yeah, they had an explouse for that too. It was
• 50:37
  Speaker 2: because Trump placated Russia.
• 50:39
  Speaker 1: Okay, something like that. Yeah, But I mean, like there's
• 50:41
  Speaker 1: always some spin I got a super child, But go ahead,
• 50:46
  Speaker 1: finish your point.
• 50:47
  Speaker 2: Well, I mean, I'm just fucking annoyed at the convenient bullshit.
• 50:55
  Speaker 2: And sometimes it's on both sides, although in this in
• 50:57
  Speaker 2: this case, it's on this side. This is not an argument,
• 51:03
  Speaker 2: This is not respect for the other position, And this
• 51:06
  Speaker 2: isn't even talking in the way that I have observed
• 51:10
  Speaker 2: men talk. So he's not talking about cause and effect,
• 51:14
  Speaker 2: he's not talking about concretes, he's not talking about next
• 51:17
  Speaker 2: action he's not talking about how the system works, right,
• 51:22
  Speaker 2: He's just talking about, Oh, why would you do that?
• 51:25
  Speaker 2: You're just just shaming and blaming and insulting and belittling
• 51:30
  Speaker 2: and trying to use that to extort compliance. Now, maybe
• 51:36
  Speaker 2: he does have reasoned arguments. You guys can correct me
• 51:39
  Speaker 2: in the chat special chat. Where are you correct me?
• 51:43
  Speaker 2: I mean, I'm open to it if you can, if
• 51:45
  Speaker 2: you can explain where he's had reasoned arguments, but these
• 51:48
  Speaker 2: are certainly not. And to turn this into some sort
• 51:51
  Speaker 2: of internet's blood sport drama hair pulling bullshit, like, how
• 51:56
  Speaker 2: is that supposed to appeal to men? Well, I guess
• 51:59
  Speaker 2: in blood sports does.
• 52:01
  Speaker 1: But yeah, but that's only if, like I think men,
• 52:04
  Speaker 1: what men admire is more the like the reason arguments.
• 52:09
  Speaker 1: You know, I know that sometimes people like to see
• 52:12
  Speaker 1: like people just hurling in cells and yelling at each other.
• 52:14
  Speaker 1: But that's what I don't think sophomoric. I don't think
• 52:18
  Speaker 1: that people like not not mature people don't really appreciate that.
• 52:22
  Speaker 1: All right, I gotta can I get some fireworks in
• 52:24
  Speaker 1: the chat by the way for the fourth of July,
• 52:27
  Speaker 1: but zaranx gave us a super chow for five dollars.
• 52:31
  Speaker 1: It's a bit wordy, he says. Trump, who was part
• 52:34
  Speaker 1: of ross Perot's Reform Party until two thousand, was selected
• 52:38
  Speaker 1: by the people over Jeb Bush, who was the determined
• 52:42
  Speaker 1: front runner by the GOP establishment. Remember that both parties
• 52:46
  Speaker 1: changed the rules after ross Perot left the nineteen ninety
• 52:49
  Speaker 1: two race. Some suspect his family was threatened and he
• 52:53
  Speaker 1: used his own money to warn us about NAFTA. And
• 52:56
  Speaker 1: everything Piot said about NAFTA was one hundred percent correct
• 53:00
  Speaker 1: in factor in that Trump was blocked by Republicans, Democrats
• 53:03
  Speaker 1: and hindered severely by the media, the same media that
• 53:06
  Speaker 1: ignored Ron Paul to the degree that John Stewart called
• 53:09
  Speaker 1: it out on The Daily Show and the GOP said
• 53:12
  Speaker 1: nothing judge a person by their enemies, right. Trump is
• 53:15
  Speaker 1: still at odds with people who won't try to see
• 53:17
  Speaker 1: the full picture and to bring to bring it to
• 53:20
  Speaker 1: the topic of men. That's exactly what's done regarding people
• 53:23
  Speaker 1: in the manisphere and the red Pill. Apologies for my ramble.
• 53:27
  Speaker 1: Thank you, ZARANX, appreciate it. Thank you for the fireworks
• 53:30
  Speaker 1: in Norwegian. Give it. Let's get some more fireworks. Fill
• 53:33
  Speaker 1: the screen with fireworks. Guys, I want to see that
• 53:36
  Speaker 1: I missed the fireworks show here in Virginia was last
• 53:40
  Speaker 1: night and I was hosting the thing for Hannah, so
• 53:42
  Speaker 1: I couldn't go watch it. So y fireworks all right,
• 53:48
  Speaker 1: so uh yeah, okay, let's watch.
• 53:54
  Speaker 2: Let's get it and you want.
• 53:55
  Speaker 1: To get into this reaction thing. Yeah.
• 53:58
  Speaker 2: Each of those those links to the same video.
• 54:01
  Speaker 1: But yeah, I know they're just different time codes. All right,
• 54:04
  Speaker 1: So this is a channel called Brad something Brad Palumbo. Yeah,
• 54:11
  Speaker 1: and ummm boom boom, crack sizzle. No, you got to
• 54:16
  Speaker 1: use yeah like emoji's there you go. All right, here
• 54:19
  Speaker 1: we go. Listen to this. He's basically he was in
• 54:22
  Speaker 1: a debate with with Dean Withers.
• 54:25
  Speaker 3: What.
• 54:25
  Speaker 2: Yeah, well, I'm I just I want to trouble check
• 54:28
  Speaker 2: to make sure that this went to the correct time code.
• 54:30
  Speaker 1: That's all well, okay, go ahead and check real quick.
• 54:35
  Speaker 2: Or you could just play it. No, it's supposed to
• 54:37
  Speaker 2: be four forty five, not one fifty six. Okay, sorry
• 54:43
  Speaker 2: about that. I'm not sure how that happened.
• 54:46
  Speaker 1: All right, here we go.
• 54:47
  Speaker 3: You're gonna see people are alienated by that.
• 54:49
  Speaker 5: Regardless of you agree I disagree, is that you feel
• 54:52
  Speaker 5: like the messaging that was coming from the left of
• 54:54
  Speaker 5: that period of time was alienating for a lot of
• 54:56
  Speaker 5: young people. That's basically what you're saying. Man, you agree,
• 54:58
  Speaker 5: I disagree with that. Man, let's ca points. It's exactly
• 55:01
  Speaker 5: what Brad was saying as well, people men.
• 55:05
  Speaker 1: Yeah, I know, it's obviously men. Well, I think that
• 55:07
  Speaker 1: they know on some level that if they say men,
• 55:10
  Speaker 1: we actually are gonna have less of a reaction to
• 55:13
  Speaker 1: it than if you say young people. I mean, it's
• 55:17
  Speaker 1: like political correctness, Like the root of it is in
• 55:19
  Speaker 1: a way, is like the erasure of men as a
• 55:22
  Speaker 1: group on its own, especially it as like, I don't know,
• 55:28
  Speaker 1: as the subject of ridicule. So like if you you
• 55:33
  Speaker 1: have to like, if this guy didn't say young people,
• 55:36
  Speaker 1: then he's probably afraid that women would step up if
• 55:39
  Speaker 1: he said men, that he's afraid that some women would
• 55:41
  Speaker 1: be like, well what about us? And that goes back
• 55:44
  Speaker 1: to what you were saying, right, But oh, I'm serious.
• 55:46
  Speaker 1: I think that's what it is. But it's to the
• 55:48
  Speaker 1: point now, even if it doesn't happen, people have like
• 55:52
  Speaker 1: this psychic block where they gotta they gotta say that, like, well,
• 55:56
  Speaker 1: I better not say I better not exclude any women
• 55:58
  Speaker 1: from this, you know, so that's why they say people
• 56:02
  Speaker 1: I think so, yeah, I mean he's English anyway, there's
• 56:05
  Speaker 1: a reason why I left them.
• 56:07
  Speaker 5: We left them, I mean, regardless view AGREEO disagree, is
• 56:09
  Speaker 5: that you feel that the messaging that was coming from
• 56:11
  Speaker 5: the left of that period of time was alienating for
• 56:14
  Speaker 5: a lot of young people. That's basically what you're saying,
• 56:16
  Speaker 5: whether you AGREEOD disagree with the political points, it's exactly
• 56:19
  Speaker 5: what Brad was saying as well.
• 56:20
  Speaker 1: Do you agree with that phenomenal?
• 56:23
  Speaker 3: Well, I think from a position of privilege, equality can
• 56:27
  Speaker 3: seem like oppression, and I think something that the left
• 56:30
  Speaker 3: has really failed at in recent history finding a way
• 56:34
  Speaker 3: to make that clear.
• 56:36
  Speaker 1: Okay, go ahead, equality can feel like oppression. Guys, that
• 56:40
  Speaker 1: I've never heard. You've never heard this before. It's completely new.
• 56:43
  Speaker 1: I've never heard this like this.
• 56:48
  Speaker 2: This is the man whisperer that the Democrats have chosen.
• 56:52
  Speaker 2: They Okay, just let's go back to the beginning of that.
• 56:54
  Speaker 2: That was astounding. He calls it phenomenal. Go back to
• 56:57
  Speaker 2: the word phenomenal. Well, I'll listen to the whole fucking Sorry, guys,
• 57:01
  Speaker 2: sorry for my swearing.
• 57:02
  Speaker 1: Here you go.
• 57:04
  Speaker 5: That's basically what you're saying, whether you agree or disagree
• 57:06
  Speaker 5: with the political points, it's exactly what Brad was saying
• 57:09
  Speaker 5: as well.
• 57:10
  Speaker 1: Do you agree with that phenomenal? Well?
• 57:13
  Speaker 3: I think from a position of privilege, equality can seem
• 57:16
  Speaker 3: like oppression. And I think something that the left has
• 57:19
  Speaker 3: really failed at in recent history is finding a way
• 57:24
  Speaker 3: to make that clear with the use of educational content
• 57:27
  Speaker 3: and not saying, you know, just coming out with like
• 57:30
  Speaker 3: the one liners of I don't know, like men's socceror whatever,
• 57:34
  Speaker 3: but I don't.
• 57:36
  Speaker 2: All right, So there you have it. Now, irrespective of
• 57:40
  Speaker 2: his opinion on Donald Trump, why would why would any
• 57:44
  Speaker 2: young man dealing with actime active disenfranchisement vote for this party?
• 57:51
  Speaker 2: Not to mention that he needs to have this kind
• 57:55
  Speaker 2: of success to have any chance in the dating landscape, right.
• 58:00
  Speaker 1: I think there's more to it than that. I don't
• 58:02
  Speaker 1: think it's just about voting. I think it's about I
• 58:07
  Speaker 1: think it's about identifying with this ideology. It's about being progressive.
• 58:13
  Speaker 1: Because if you can get men to live, to live
• 58:15
  Speaker 1: and believe that being progressive, feminist, leftist, whatever is everything,
• 58:20
  Speaker 1: then you don't have to convince them to vote anymore.
• 58:23
  Speaker 1: So like what they what they what they wants is
• 58:25
  Speaker 1: not for them to vote a certain way. What he
• 58:27
  Speaker 1: wants is for them to internalize progressive values. And I
• 58:32
  Speaker 1: think that's why he's the face of or at least
• 58:35
  Speaker 1: a face, because I think they're throwing a lot of
• 58:37
  Speaker 1: people into this. It's because he looks. You know, he's
• 58:41
  Speaker 1: like a young, good looking guy. Right. I think that's
• 58:45
  Speaker 1: like it's it's all by design, like nothing, this guy
• 58:47
  Speaker 1: is like an actor. None of this is I don't
• 58:50
  Speaker 1: think any of this is real, to be honest, And
• 58:52
  Speaker 1: but he puts out this image like do you know
• 58:54
  Speaker 1: that he goes by the nickname the Blonde Tom Holland.
• 58:58
  Speaker 1: Do you know who Tom Holland is. He's the actor
• 59:01
  Speaker 1: that played Spider Man in in the newer movies. So
• 59:05
  Speaker 1: he's like this young like babyface, you know, guy, I
• 59:09
  Speaker 1: don't know how old he is, but this kid is
• 59:11
  Speaker 1: like twenty so he obviously like he sounds like he
• 59:14
  Speaker 1: knows what he's talking about. But when when Trump was
• 59:17
  Speaker 1: in office in twenty sixteen, this kid was like, what
• 59:21
  Speaker 1: twelve and he doesn't know, like he didn't live through
• 59:25
  Speaker 1: any of this stuff, and much less anything that precedes
• 59:28
  Speaker 1: that like when Obama was president, he was like six
• 59:31
  Speaker 1: years old or something, so like, yeah, go ahead, Just.
• 59:35
  Speaker 2: The statement is astounding. The problem isn't our discrimination against men,
• 59:41
  Speaker 2: our condemnation of them as being the problem in the world.
• 59:44
  Speaker 2: The problem is how we package package this to men
• 59:49
  Speaker 2: so that they start to agree with it.
• 59:52
  Speaker 1: Exactly. That's your That's exactly what it is. This is
• 59:54
  Speaker 1: what I'm saying. I've been saying this forever. Why is it?
• 1:00:00
  Speaker 1: Why is this their best showing because they can't actually
• 1:00:05
  Speaker 1: care about men because that is antithetical to their belief system.
• 1:00:10
  Speaker 1: It just is they can't. They can't. It's impossible, it
• 1:00:15
  Speaker 1: cannot be done. So the only thing they can do
• 1:00:18
  Speaker 1: is make it seem as though being one of them
• 1:00:23
  Speaker 1: is how men are defined. So it's like this is
• 1:00:27
  Speaker 1: like if you're a real man, you will be Yeah,
• 1:00:30
  Speaker 1: this is what it means to be good. And if
• 1:00:32
  Speaker 1: you're against this, then obviously you're not good. So like,
• 1:00:35
  Speaker 1: and they can do this to men because with women
• 1:00:38
  Speaker 1: it doesn't work. It'll it'll blow up in your face,
• 1:00:40
  Speaker 1: especially if you are a man telling women what they
• 1:00:43
  Speaker 1: should be. Although that has happened obviously, Like you know,
• 1:00:47
  Speaker 1: female MRAs get called picknes, for example. But but I
• 1:00:52
  Speaker 1: think that, like, there is no possible way for the
• 1:00:58
  Speaker 1: left to like actually address men's issues because it is
• 1:01:03
  Speaker 1: antithetical to their belief system completely. It is the opposite
• 1:01:07
  Speaker 1: of it, Like you can't even acknowledge that men have issues.
• 1:01:10
  Speaker 1: It's just I've been saying this forever. I know it
• 1:01:12
  Speaker 1: doesn't seem like I'm being fair, but this is just
• 1:01:15
  Speaker 1: what I have looked at this over and over. Like
• 1:01:17
  Speaker 1: do you remember when Shoe on Head made a whole
• 1:01:19
  Speaker 1: video and she was like, what's going on with like
• 1:01:22
  Speaker 1: why is it? Like how do we get the left
• 1:01:24
  Speaker 1: to draw men? And she was saying this way before
• 1:01:27
  Speaker 1: the election happened, and she showed a video of nothing
• 1:01:29
  Speaker 1: but left is saying men are shit for like a
• 1:01:32
  Speaker 1: half hour. And I'm like, well, yeah, because that's built
• 1:01:35
  Speaker 1: you because the whole ideology is built on a paradigm
• 1:01:40
  Speaker 1: that puts men as the oppressors. So you could not
• 1:01:44
  Speaker 1: possibly create a counter narrative. There is no way. The
• 1:01:48
  Speaker 1: only thing, the closest thing you can get to it
• 1:01:50
  Speaker 1: is to say patriarchy hurts men too, but you're still
• 1:01:53
  Speaker 1: putting men in the dominant evil role, like there's no
• 1:01:56
  Speaker 1: way to undo it. It just can't be done. So
• 1:01:59
  Speaker 1: all they have left is optics. It's all about like, well,
• 1:02:02
  Speaker 1: you know, that's why they're like, we need yeah, it's well,
• 1:02:05
  Speaker 1: that's what I mean by optics. It's like, we need
• 1:02:07
  Speaker 1: somebody who makes our arguments look good. That's it. Even
• 1:02:11
  Speaker 1: if we have to lie, which they have done, they'll
• 1:02:14
  Speaker 1: be like, oh no, I totally care about men because
• 1:02:16
  Speaker 1: they're just trying to get into power. But they don't
• 1:02:18
  Speaker 1: actually have solutions. They have no interest in them. They
• 1:02:22
  Speaker 1: don't even want to talk about it, like unless it means,
• 1:02:26
  Speaker 1: you know, you basically reframe it to be like, well,
• 1:02:29
  Speaker 1: you're the good men, but you still have to make
• 1:02:32
  Speaker 1: other men the bad men, because there has to be
• 1:02:35
  Speaker 1: men somewhere that are the enemy.
• 1:02:37
  Speaker 2: M you know, yeah, that's very true. And I think
• 1:02:42
  Speaker 2: it's why they lost unions. I mean, there used to
• 1:02:46
  Speaker 2: be more of a masculine left, you know, with with
• 1:02:51
  Speaker 2: organized working men. That's gone. Now it's all this crap,
• 1:02:57
  Speaker 2: you know. And again, like I had this recent altercation
• 1:03:02
  Speaker 2: with what I believed was a communist and I said,
• 1:03:05
  Speaker 2: and he was just being absolutely dismissive of men's issues,
• 1:03:09
  Speaker 2: and I said, why are you all such dicks to
• 1:03:11
  Speaker 2: men's issues? Don't you realize the primary impetent, like the
• 1:03:15
  Speaker 2: primary impediment to ever having communism is that you'd have
• 1:03:18
  Speaker 2: to give free stuff to men too, and nobody's going
• 1:03:21
  Speaker 2: to do that, nobody.
• 1:03:25
  Speaker 1: Going to the Communists know that the struggle between the
• 1:03:29
  Speaker 1: working class or the workers and the bourgeoisie did not
• 1:03:34
  Speaker 1: work in America or the West, because we found here
• 1:03:38
  Speaker 1: that you know, anybody could rise to on the on the.
• 1:03:44
  Speaker 2: Class division.
• 1:03:46
  Speaker 1: Yes, but like there was that, but also like we
• 1:03:48
  Speaker 1: weren't as concerned with that. It was like, well, if
• 1:03:50
  Speaker 1: I have my little you know, little business and my
• 1:03:53
  Speaker 1: little job, and I can like support a home and
• 1:03:55
  Speaker 1: a family, I don't need to have what you know
• 1:03:57
  Speaker 1: the rich people have. I have enough. And they were like, well,
• 1:03:59
  Speaker 1: this isn't working because we don't get our revolution. So
• 1:04:03
  Speaker 1: they needed to, like they just changed the teams and
• 1:04:06
  Speaker 1: they went from you know, working class people and rich
• 1:04:09
  Speaker 1: people to men and women. But they kept the working
• 1:04:12
  Speaker 1: class people. Rich people think around that's why they use
• 1:04:14
  Speaker 1: it sometimes, you know, but like ultimately it was you know,
• 1:04:19
  Speaker 1: to be fair, Like.
• 1:04:20
  Speaker 2: A lot of the early communists were also feminists, just
• 1:04:23
  Speaker 2: right from the start, because I think it's a it's
• 1:04:25
  Speaker 2: as uh, it's as the nerd what are they called clownfish?
• 1:04:35
  Speaker 2: They Yeah, he actually put it really sustinctly. Communism is
• 1:04:39
  Speaker 2: a fairy tale for girls. It's like this idea of
• 1:04:44
  Speaker 2: internalizing a very feminine way of looking at the worlds. Yeah,
• 1:04:49
  Speaker 2: it doesn't work when you're doing also a.
• 1:04:51
  Speaker 1: Good way for men to get with girls.
• 1:04:53
  Speaker 2: Yeah, But also I don't think a lot of communists men,
• 1:04:57
  Speaker 2: I don't think, really understand communism because they're like, it'll
• 1:05:00
  Speaker 2: give me a purpose, whereas the women are like, it'll
• 1:05:03
  Speaker 2: give me free stuff. And that's another thing.
• 1:05:05
  Speaker 1: Like that'll be their purpose giving women free stuff.
• 1:05:08
  Speaker 2: I'm giving women free stuff. Well you could do that
• 1:05:10
  Speaker 2: as their husband.
• 1:05:12
  Speaker 1: You know. Yeah, but that's oppression, Allison, that's oppression.
• 1:05:16
  Speaker 2: Which no, that's the entire explanation of communism right there.
• 1:05:21
  Speaker 2: Men can't give women free stuff in relationships because that's oppression.
• 1:05:25
  Speaker 2: So they have to give women free stuff through taxes.
• 1:05:30
  Speaker 1: There you go.
• 1:05:31
  Speaker 2: That's the explanation of communism and government spending right there.
• 1:05:35
  Speaker 1: Yeah, okay, all right, do you want the other time
• 1:05:37
  Speaker 1: code now or I think he.
• 1:05:39
  Speaker 2: Says a little bit more and then we can go
• 1:05:41
  Speaker 2: to the next time code.
• 1:05:42
  Speaker 3: All right, Oh no, I haven't heard that. I'm a man.
• 1:05:45
  Speaker 3: I'm huge in left leaning politics.
• 1:05:48
  Speaker 1: Wow. So that was it. I mean, basically, unless you
• 1:05:51
  Speaker 1: want this guy's biased, okay, but because he goes this, yeah,
• 1:05:56
  Speaker 1: he's huge in left wing politics. But I did learn that.
• 1:06:01
  Speaker 4: I did a little bit of digging into Dean Winters
• 1:06:05
  Speaker 4: and no Withers rather Withers, and he saw like a
• 1:06:09
  Speaker 4: large bump in his social media platform.
• 1:06:14
  Speaker 1: Well, first of all, he's a rich kid. I don't
• 1:06:16
  Speaker 1: know if you guys know that, but he had an
• 1:06:19
  Speaker 1: online course in twenty twenty two called e Rich Lifestyle
• 1:06:25
  Speaker 1: where he would show off, like, you know, how much
• 1:06:28
  Speaker 1: money he has and everything. So he's he's essentially an
• 1:06:32
  Speaker 1: Elliott Roger if Elliot Roger had a girlfriend and his
• 1:06:35
  Speaker 1: mother wasn't abusive, I suppose, So I thought that was
• 1:06:39
  Speaker 1: kind of interesting. But more than that, he got a
• 1:06:42
  Speaker 1: significant boost in his platform because he was sort of
• 1:06:47
  Speaker 1: supported by a media group called The Advocates. And The
• 1:06:52
  Speaker 1: Advocate is a well known American publication focused on LGBTQ
• 1:06:57
  Speaker 1: plus news, culture, and advocacy. Founded in nineteen sixty seven,
• 1:07:02
  Speaker 1: it is one of the oldest and most prominent media
• 1:07:04
  Speaker 1: outlets dedicated to covering issues affecting LGBTQ plus community, including politics, rights,
• 1:07:10
  Speaker 1: and personal stories. The Advocate featured Withers in an interview
• 1:07:14
  Speaker 1: or profile where he discussed his background, political journey, and
• 1:07:17
  Speaker 1: online presence. And they're also they've been owned or the
• 1:07:22
  Speaker 1: Advocates owned by something called Equal Entertainment LLC, formerly Pride Media,
• 1:07:28
  Speaker 1: And they have like affiliates like Out and Plus. You
• 1:07:31
  Speaker 1: probably heard of Out magazine and so like they have
• 1:07:36
  Speaker 1: they support him. And the reason why I bring this
• 1:07:38
  Speaker 1: up is because I think that a lot of these
• 1:07:40
  Speaker 1: a lot of these influencers are supported by groups like this.
• 1:07:46
  Speaker 1: They get a lot of that, and I wouldn't be
• 1:07:49
  Speaker 1: So I'm just saying Dean's already rich, so maybe he
• 1:07:51
  Speaker 1: doesn't need the money. But his rise to fame seemed
• 1:07:56
  Speaker 1: to happen overnight, kind of like to call her Daddy podcasts.
• 1:08:00
  Speaker 1: And I think it's weird, and I think it's suspicious.
• 1:08:02
  Speaker 1: That's it. I don't want to, like say, make any
• 1:08:05
  Speaker 1: claims that I can't back up, but that's what I'm
• 1:08:07
  Speaker 1: that's what I'm getting from it. So I thought it
• 1:08:09
  Speaker 1: was kind of interesting that he's got like people behind him,
• 1:08:13
  Speaker 1: he's connected put it down well, of course, yeah, I
• 1:08:18
  Speaker 1: mean kind of like. There was that feminist woman that
• 1:08:20
  Speaker 1: I forget her name, but she was. She's known for
• 1:08:25
  Speaker 1: going on like and debating people as well in the
• 1:08:28
  Speaker 1: same way, around the same age, and she was on
• 1:08:32
  Speaker 1: a podcast that was friendly and I guess she didn't
• 1:08:34
  Speaker 1: think it was gonna get out. But on the podcast
• 1:08:37
  Speaker 1: she admitted that she was taking money from Planned Parenthood
• 1:08:40
  Speaker 1: and the Biden administration. She's just getting money from Planned Parenthood, which,
• 1:08:44
  Speaker 1: by the way, they're gonna get gutted. But anyway, Zarax
• 1:08:48
  Speaker 1: gave us a super chat. Thank you. Zarax says Dean
• 1:08:51
  Speaker 1: was diminutive. Andrew Tait, Oh, yeah, yeah, because he that's right.
• 1:08:56
  Speaker 1: He got he got into some uh trouble with women too.
• 1:08:59
  Speaker 1: But I guess that's sort of blown over because that
• 1:09:01
  Speaker 1: was in twenty nineteen. So there's the thing about being
• 1:09:05
  Speaker 1: a male influencer. Man, if you're a male feminist influencer,
• 1:09:09
  Speaker 1: you have a target on your back. You don't even
• 1:09:10
  Speaker 1: know it. So all right, you're sure you want to
• 1:09:15
  Speaker 1: get big there, Brian, No, I don't. But I'm not
• 1:09:17
  Speaker 1: a but I'm not a leftist though, Allison, So I
• 1:09:19
  Speaker 1: have nothing to fear, Like if women accused me, just
• 1:09:22
  Speaker 1: be like fuck off, no I didn't, or I'll just
• 1:09:26
  Speaker 1: own it, like I mean, I don't think I would
• 1:09:27
  Speaker 1: do that, but I mean.
• 1:09:29
  Speaker 2: That was actually a really good point that he's diminutive
• 1:09:31
  Speaker 2: Andrew Tate, that attitude of showing off his wealth is
• 1:09:35
  Speaker 2: very much.
• 1:09:38
  Speaker 1: Well, that's the thing. They see the guys like Andrew
• 1:09:41
  Speaker 1: Tate as the competition for men. So they've even said
• 1:09:45
  Speaker 1: like we need we need a you know, Andrew Tated
• 1:09:48
  Speaker 1: left right, and that was Hassan Piker. I don't know
• 1:09:50
  Speaker 1: if you guys know that, but Hassan is supposedly they were,
• 1:09:55
  Speaker 1: they were priming up for that, and then I guess
• 1:09:56
  Speaker 1: he like threatened somebody's life on Twitch and a gun
• 1:10:00
  Speaker 1: on stream recently. WHOA, He's not gonna get banned though
• 1:10:04
  Speaker 1: Twitch loves him. They're going to throw him another birthday
• 1:10:07
  Speaker 1: party most likely. But that would normally like be the
• 1:10:10
  Speaker 1: that would be the that would be it for most people.
• 1:10:13
  Speaker 2: That would be it, right anyway, the next one, if
• 1:10:18
  Speaker 2: you need the actual.
• 1:10:20
  Speaker 1: Eleven thirty, eleven thirty three, eleven thirty yeah, probably yeah, yeah,
• 1:10:25
  Speaker 1: here we go.
• 1:10:25
  Speaker 2: All right, here we go.
• 1:10:26
  Speaker 6: The second clip where I did have to call Dean
• 1:10:30
  Speaker 6: out because he was denying in the course of this conversation,
• 1:10:33
  Speaker 6: the Democrats really had a messaging problem, and I did
• 1:10:37
  Speaker 6: have to bring up his recent experience that I covered
• 1:10:40
  Speaker 6: on the show where his planned anti Trump TikTok tour
• 1:10:44
  Speaker 6: with all the stars.
• 1:10:44
  Speaker 2: From Imploded No Offense, Brad, Yeah, yeah, messaging, No, No,
• 1:10:50
  Speaker 2: it's messaging problem. I don't know if he's he's he's
• 1:10:54
  Speaker 2: more on the left and he actually wants It's not
• 1:10:55
  Speaker 2: a messaging problem. It's a functional problem with the system.
• 1:11:01
  Speaker 2: Like on a basic level, it's not that you can't
• 1:11:04
  Speaker 2: force this shit down young men's throats anymore. It's what
• 1:11:09
  Speaker 2: you're trying to force down. It's poison. Okay, So what
• 1:11:13
  Speaker 2: ends up happening is you either kill men or they
• 1:11:16
  Speaker 2: vomit it up. This is where we're at, and this
• 1:11:20
  Speaker 2: is why you have less and less of a male base.
• 1:11:24
  Speaker 2: You're either destroying them because they internalize your messages and
• 1:11:27
  Speaker 2: they kill them they unlive themselves, or they refuse to
• 1:11:32
  Speaker 2: internalize your message. So it's not it is not a
• 1:11:36
  Speaker 2: packaging problem. It is what you're packaging.
• 1:11:40
  Speaker 1: MM hm, and men could see it. It's it's naked,
• 1:11:45
  Speaker 1: like it's obvious. Well, I mean I think Brad Pulumbo
• 1:11:48
  Speaker 1: is being like very charitable. I guess that would be fair.
• 1:11:53
  Speaker 1: But no, you're right, it's not a pack it That's
• 1:11:55
  Speaker 1: what I'm saying. It's not a packaging problem. It's not
• 1:11:57
  Speaker 1: it's not that we haven't dressed it up nice enough.
• 1:12:00
  Speaker 1: It's that men didn't see through it because they're not
• 1:12:02
  Speaker 1: concerned with how nice something sounds. Maybe women are. What
• 1:12:07
  Speaker 1: is the substance of this?
• 1:12:08
  Speaker 2: You know, I grew to dress fill injury in the chat.
• 1:12:11
  Speaker 2: You think that being right wing makes you immune to
• 1:12:14
  Speaker 2: miss Injry No, And I call out missigery on the right.
• 1:12:18
  Speaker 2: I distinctly remember when conservative women said conservative men needed
• 1:12:23
  Speaker 2: to uh to become their offense monkeys because of something.
• 1:12:28
  Speaker 2: And in Brian also as well as myself, said, no,
• 1:12:32
  Speaker 2: you can't make women's offense the political the political breaking point,
• 1:12:39
  Speaker 2: the political pivot, because then it just never ends.
• 1:12:44
  Speaker 1: Right.
• 1:12:44
  Speaker 2: We both said that, and that was conservative women that
• 1:12:47
  Speaker 2: we were calling out right and I call out conservative
• 1:12:52
  Speaker 2: thinking on our miss injury on the Twitter. It's conservative
• 1:12:59
  Speaker 2: miss and is holding men to a particular standard and
• 1:13:03
  Speaker 2: thinking that they're worthless if they don't live up to it.
• 1:13:07
  Speaker 2: The left's miss injury is men they exist.
• 1:13:13
  Speaker 1: That's fair. That's basically the way I would put it. Too. Well,
• 1:13:17
  Speaker 1: you know what, phil Andrew obviously doesn't want to be
• 1:13:21
  Speaker 1: fair because he just he just put words in my mouth.
• 1:13:24
  Speaker 1: Shit I didn't say because I said that leftism has
• 1:13:28
  Speaker 1: nothing for men, because it doesn't. That doesn't mean that
• 1:13:32
  Speaker 1: like that, you know, conservatism is like just good for men.
• 1:13:38
  Speaker 1: Obviously if they were, we wouldn't have to be here.
• 1:13:41
  Speaker 1: That's not it. So like what I'm saying is you
• 1:13:43
  Speaker 1: can say whatever you want, but like actually respond to
• 1:13:46
  Speaker 1: what I'm saying and not what you wish I said.
• 1:13:50
  Speaker 2: Like, the thing is that I don't even think that
• 1:13:52
  Speaker 2: Donald Trump is a true like conservative conservative.
• 1:13:56
  Speaker 1: No, he's like a He's a Democrat from twenty years old.
• 1:14:00
  Speaker 2: The more I look at it, the more I'm like
• 1:14:02
  Speaker 2: you realize he seems he's like he His social positions
• 1:14:08
  Speaker 2: are potentially more left. At least we're not in terms
• 1:14:11
  Speaker 2: of immigration, although Obama actually deported way more than he did.
• 1:14:16
  Speaker 2: They're more left than than Bill Clinton and Obama. He
• 1:14:21
  Speaker 2: had no problem with gay marriage, going into his presidency.
• 1:14:24
  Speaker 2: That's not the case. If Obama and Clinton were running today,
• 1:14:28
  Speaker 2: the current left would call them both fascists. Yeah, based
• 1:14:33
  Speaker 2: on their political for sure, because you guys are speed running,
• 1:14:37
  Speaker 2: your speed running into the complete destruction of every boundary
• 1:14:42
  Speaker 2: that allows a society to exist that's usually established by men.
• 1:14:46
  Speaker 2: And your justification for why your speed running the destruction
• 1:14:49
  Speaker 2: of every boundary that exists to keep a society going
• 1:14:53
  Speaker 2: is because it's in the way of a feminine utopia.
• 1:14:57
  Speaker 2: And they will, and the left will literally say that
• 1:14:59
  Speaker 2: that thinking is the way in the way of a
• 1:15:02
  Speaker 2: utopia created by femininity. I mean, when they're being honest
• 1:15:07
  Speaker 2: about what they're doing. Okay, it's like you can try
• 1:15:11
  Speaker 2: to find you can try to find something in the
• 1:15:16
  Speaker 2: party that has declared men the their enemy. That doesn't
• 1:15:20
  Speaker 2: mean the right has declared men their friend. And I
• 1:15:25
  Speaker 2: don't even know if a true conservative position, like a
• 1:15:28
  Speaker 2: true conservative administration, would have ever expressed the kinds of
• 1:15:35
  Speaker 2: sentiments towards men that we're seeing coming out of this administration.
• 1:15:40
  Speaker 2: And I have to call it as I see it
• 1:15:43
  Speaker 2: right now. I don't know, Like again, I don't know
• 1:15:46
  Speaker 2: if a true conservative administration wouldever I don't know if
• 1:15:50
  Speaker 2: the Rhinos would ever do that or frame it in
• 1:15:54
  Speaker 2: that way. Honestly, I'm not even sure that left right
• 1:15:59
  Speaker 2: really defined the parties anymore. It is statist, not statist.
• 1:16:05
  Speaker 2: You justify more government spending at the expense of the
• 1:16:09
  Speaker 2: people who are working, or you don't. That would be
• 1:16:13
  Speaker 2: my opinion, And there's a there's a small caveat the
• 1:16:16
  Speaker 2: people who do justify more government spending if they don't
• 1:16:19
  Speaker 2: get us into wars, maybe that's good enough.
• 1:16:23
  Speaker 1: Like all right, all right, so.
• 1:16:27
  Speaker 6: Let's play the rest of this other clip for microaggressions.
• 1:16:33
  Speaker 6: Take a listen to this clip.
• 1:16:35
  Speaker 3: So about the marketing of the left, I think that
• 1:16:37
  Speaker 3: the biggest issue with why we've seen this trend in
• 1:16:40
  Speaker 3: younger Americans going more to the right isn't the idea
• 1:16:42
  Speaker 3: that we don't know.
• 1:16:43
  Speaker 1: How you.
• 1:16:50
  Speaker 2: Yeah, I gotta go back. The problem with the marketing
• 1:16:52
  Speaker 2: in the left is that young men are seeing through it.
• 1:16:56
  Speaker 1: Simple as they see it for what it is. They
• 1:16:58
  Speaker 1: see the marketing, it's like it's like the used car
• 1:17:01
  Speaker 1: salesman that's trying to sell you a lemon, and he
• 1:17:06
  Speaker 1: know you basically say, well, that's obviously a lemon. I'm
• 1:17:08
  Speaker 1: not going to buy that, and then his boss tells him, dude,
• 1:17:11
  Speaker 1: you didn't. You didn't. You didn't market this well enough
• 1:17:15
  Speaker 1: or you could have gotten him to buy it. We
• 1:17:16
  Speaker 1: got to change our marketing, not like we got to
• 1:17:18
  Speaker 1: like make sure our cars run and that like it's
• 1:17:21
  Speaker 1: a product worth buying. So anyway, all right, you just
• 1:17:30
  Speaker 1: go back and well, no, no, Phil Andrey, I want
• 1:17:34
  Speaker 1: to just say real quick, because you respond to him,
• 1:17:36
  Speaker 1: but I wanted to just cement it. He says, uh, yeah,
• 1:17:38
  Speaker 1: I asked that because Brian said that the false accusations
• 1:17:41
  Speaker 1: wouldn't catch him because he's not a leftist. No, it's
• 1:17:43
  Speaker 1: because I wouldn't be around people who would be more
• 1:17:45
  Speaker 1: likely to do that. That's what I'm getting at is
• 1:17:47
  Speaker 1: that Dean Withers is a male feminist. So his circle,
• 1:17:54
  Speaker 1: his audience, and the people he draws to himself are feminists,
• 1:18:00
  Speaker 1: right that they love that. And we have seen this
• 1:18:03
  Speaker 1: over and over again, and he will he is getting
• 1:18:07
  Speaker 1: shit because he draws in people who are more likely
• 1:18:11
  Speaker 1: to give him shit. Right now, We've covered I've been
• 1:18:15
  Speaker 1: doing this for a long time. We've covered multiple stories
• 1:18:18
  Speaker 1: like endless stories of male feminists that get accused of
• 1:18:22
  Speaker 1: you know, some sexual impropriety or something worse than just
• 1:18:27
  Speaker 1: an impropriety. And I have always said from the beginning
• 1:18:31
  Speaker 1: that it's hard to tell whether this is because male
• 1:18:35
  Speaker 1: feminists are more likely to be you know, sexually inappropriate
• 1:18:40
  Speaker 1: for with women because they use feminism to get close
• 1:18:44
  Speaker 1: to women and that's a real thing that happens, or
• 1:18:47
  Speaker 1: if women are more likely to make false accusations because
• 1:18:50
  Speaker 1: they're neurotic feminist women that think that, you know, like
• 1:18:54
  Speaker 1: holding hands is rape. So which one is it? It's
• 1:18:56
  Speaker 1: hard to know because they blurred that so much. But
• 1:19:00
  Speaker 1: you see, I will not put myself in a position
• 1:19:02
  Speaker 1: where that would happen. I'm also married and have no
• 1:19:05
  Speaker 1: interest in women anyway, So like you, you would have
• 1:19:08
  Speaker 1: to make a false accusation, and if you did, then
• 1:19:12
  Speaker 1: it probably wouldn't come from a female mra, though, would it,
• 1:19:14
  Speaker 1: because those are the people I surround myself with. So
• 1:19:17
  Speaker 1: that's that's what I'm saying. I think it's I think
• 1:19:19
  Speaker 1: it's kind of self explanatory.
• 1:19:22
  Speaker 2: Yeah, it's not because he's on the right. It's because
• 1:19:23
  Speaker 2: he's a men's rights advocate. Yeah, okay, so yeah he gets.
• 1:19:31
  Speaker 1: To Yeah, let's let's get back to it all right,
• 1:19:34
  Speaker 1: Uh so what what? Yeah? So we're talking about the marketing,
• 1:19:38
  Speaker 1: the packaging.
• 1:19:38
  Speaker 3: Okay, so about the marketing of the left. I think
• 1:19:41
  Speaker 3: that the biggest issue with why we've seen this trend
• 1:19:44
  Speaker 3: in younger Americans going more to the right isn't the
• 1:19:46
  Speaker 3: idea that we don't know how to define what a
• 1:19:48
  Speaker 3: woman is, but it's more so the idea that the
• 1:19:51
  Speaker 3: right has been able to ingrain themselves in the culture. Rather,
• 1:19:54
  Speaker 3: if you're a man going to the gym, looking to
• 1:19:56
  Speaker 3: your favorite gym influence around the internet, chances are they
• 1:19:58
  Speaker 3: support God or one.
• 1:20:00
  Speaker 1: Yeah, like Joey swoll Uh you know right wing commed
• 1:20:04
  Speaker 1: Do you guys know that? No? But you know what
• 1:20:06
  Speaker 1: you know? Remember joe you know Joey Swoll, Right, Yes,
• 1:20:08
  Speaker 1: I do. He's been advocating for men a lot lately.
• 1:20:12
  Speaker 1: Like just oh you have you have bad words?
• 1:20:16
  Speaker 2: No, go ahead, finish your finish your state.
• 1:20:19
  Speaker 1: I'm just saying, Joyce, well you go ahead, go ahead
• 1:20:21
  Speaker 1: and make say your words.
• 1:20:23
  Speaker 2: Okay, Okay, And then you guys can look forward to
• 1:20:26
  Speaker 2: Brian's summation of Joeli Schwool. He just said that the
• 1:20:32
  Speaker 2: right wing has ingratiated it itself into the culture. And
• 1:20:36
  Speaker 2: what he's actually referring to is how the left has
• 1:20:43
  Speaker 2: basically referred to more and more groups of people as
• 1:20:48
  Speaker 2: fascist and men's rights activists. Right, So people who are
• 1:20:54
  Speaker 2: interested in health are now fascist. So people who go
• 1:20:59
  Speaker 2: to the gym are now fascist, right, people who want
• 1:21:02
  Speaker 2: merit and entertainment are now fascists. Gamers are now fascist.
• 1:21:07
  Speaker 2: So the left has thrown off all of these groups
• 1:21:10
  Speaker 2: of people. And then this guy comes up. Watch it.
• 1:21:12
  Speaker 2: The left has actually ostracized all of these groups of people.
• 1:21:17
  Speaker 2: He comes out of the woodwork and pops out and says, oh,
• 1:21:20
  Speaker 2: look how the right has ingratiated itself into the culture. No,
• 1:21:24
  Speaker 2: the right hasn't ingratiated itself into the culture. You've used
• 1:21:28
  Speaker 2: your command threat narrative to ostracize huge swaths of the culture.
• 1:21:36
  Speaker 2: And then you look at it. You say, oh, well,
• 1:21:37
  Speaker 2: based on my command threat narrative, these guys are right.
• 1:21:41
  Speaker 2: So look at how the right has ingratiated itself in
• 1:21:43
  Speaker 2: the culture.
• 1:21:45
  Speaker 3: Are you?
• 1:21:46
  Speaker 2: The right didn't ingratiate itself into gamer culture. What happened
• 1:21:51
  Speaker 2: was the left attempted to co opt and colonize the
• 1:21:55
  Speaker 2: entire industry in order to push its narrative, thus alienating
• 1:21:59
  Speaker 2: the people in and then when those alienated people said, hey,
• 1:22:04
  Speaker 2: stop pushing your crap on us, you call them fascists.
• 1:22:08
  Speaker 2: And now this guy is looking that situations like, oh,
• 1:22:11
  Speaker 2: the right has seemed to ingratiate itself into the gamer culture.
• 1:22:14
  Speaker 2: What you see what I'm saying?
• 1:22:17
  Speaker 3: I do.
• 1:22:18
  Speaker 1: Yeah, of course I was there for gamer Gate. Uh yeah,
• 1:22:21
  Speaker 1: we're super fascist over here in the gaming community.
• 1:22:26
  Speaker 2: But that's exactly what happens. The left attempts to colonize
• 1:22:30
  Speaker 2: the culture to push its narrative. The part of that
• 1:22:33
  Speaker 2: culture they push back, right, and they go in and
• 1:22:37
  Speaker 2: they say, well you can't. You know, if you're part
• 1:22:39
  Speaker 2: of the natural health community, Well, wellness is fascism. You know,
• 1:22:43
  Speaker 2: exercises fascism. You're you're judging people based on a system
• 1:22:47
  Speaker 2: of merit like a man. That makes you a fascist.
• 1:22:51
  Speaker 2: That's really the subtext here, guys. I don't know if
• 1:22:53
  Speaker 2: you know it, like it's it's a it's a it's
• 1:22:55
  Speaker 2: a it is a fight against every boundary that men
• 1:23:00
  Speaker 2: naturally set, Like, yeah, there are going to be winners
• 1:23:03
  Speaker 2: and losers. They're going to be the unhealthy and the
• 1:23:05
  Speaker 2: healthy based on people's actions and choices. They're going in
• 1:23:09
  Speaker 2: and saying, no, you can't do that, that's fascist. And
• 1:23:12
  Speaker 2: then the guy's turning around and saying, look at how
• 1:23:15
  Speaker 2: many look at how they're right. And incidentally, when they
• 1:23:18
  Speaker 2: mean when these people say the right, they mean men.
• 1:23:21
  Speaker 1: That's what I was gonna say. It's it's inherently masculinity
• 1:23:25
  Speaker 1: that's being attacked. Yes, that's all of the things. I mean,
• 1:23:30
  Speaker 1: being fit isn't, isn't inherently masculine. But like all of
• 1:23:33
  Speaker 1: the things that men care about, like meritocracy, like you know,
• 1:23:39
  Speaker 1: like sort of.
• 1:23:40
  Speaker 2: No, I actually have to push back on that. I
• 1:23:42
  Speaker 2: have to push back on that it is inherently masculine
• 1:23:45
  Speaker 2: because there are winners and losers.
• 1:23:47
  Speaker 1: Yes, right, Yeah, so that's ultimate says. It's ingrained in
• 1:23:52
  Speaker 1: the culture. It's just like like like you said, going
• 1:23:55
  Speaker 1: to the gym, it's like, but the gym isn't political,
• 1:23:58
  Speaker 1: but you're it is for you guys. Yeah, you made
• 1:24:02
  Speaker 1: the gym political. You made video games.
• 1:24:06
  Speaker 2: Yeah, yes, And then you're like, well look at where
• 1:24:09
  Speaker 2: it's all in.
• 1:24:09
  Speaker 1: Great, and they probably think you guess, you know about
• 1:24:14
  Speaker 1: you know about what's his name, Oliver Anthony the country
• 1:24:18
  Speaker 1: singer that blew up because of that rich mend North
• 1:24:21
  Speaker 1: of Richmond song that he put out a couple of
• 1:24:23
  Speaker 1: years back. And then like he got really rich and
• 1:24:27
  Speaker 1: his wife divorced him and took like she wants everything now,
• 1:24:32
  Speaker 1: like she wants e free thing, and so he put
• 1:24:35
  Speaker 1: out a new single called a Scornful Woman. So basically
• 1:24:40
  Speaker 1: lamenting what's going on with his wife is like, it's
• 1:24:42
  Speaker 1: a great song too. I was like, this is a
• 1:24:43
  Speaker 1: really good song. Uh, that is far right what he's doing. Like,
• 1:24:49
  Speaker 1: I mean it was when he made the song originally,
• 1:24:52
  Speaker 1: because it was a man being honest about his feelings
• 1:24:56
  Speaker 1: and expressing it through a craft that he's good at.
• 1:24:59
  Speaker 1: M Oh, yeah, that's an inherent.
• 1:25:04
  Speaker 2: Is there an echo? Huh?
• 1:25:05
  Speaker 1: Somebody's saying, uh, sound check or but I don't know.
• 1:25:09
  Speaker 1: I don't know is there is there an echo? Because
• 1:25:11
  Speaker 1: I don't see it.
• 1:25:13
  Speaker 2: Yeah, okay, well, anybody else pipe up about any potential.
• 1:25:17
  Speaker 1: But I'm looking at the sound things and I don't
• 1:25:19
  Speaker 1: see an echo.
• 1:25:20
  Speaker 2: But regardless of the mysterious echo, but yeah, basically, the
• 1:25:27
  Speaker 2: left is at war with everything that makes anything beautiful great,
• 1:25:33
  Speaker 2: entertaining any kind of fitness, health, any kind of standard
• 1:25:36
  Speaker 2: that people are held to, because that's inherently masculine, holding
• 1:25:41
  Speaker 2: yourself to a standard based on your actions and their consequences.
• 1:25:45
  Speaker 2: It's I hate to say it, but it seems like
• 1:25:48
  Speaker 2: that is an entirely masculine thing, whereas feeling like things
• 1:25:53
  Speaker 2: exist because their performance is more feminine in nature, which
• 1:25:57
  Speaker 2: is really what he's saying, Like we haven't performed well
• 1:26:00
  Speaker 2: enough for men to ingest our message, is what they're saying.
• 1:26:04
  Speaker 2: And when he says the right has embedded itself in culture,
• 1:26:10
  Speaker 2: what he means is that the things that he regards
• 1:26:14
  Speaker 2: as masculine, like merit and health and expectations and standards,
• 1:26:20
  Speaker 2: result in creating stuff people want like health and beauty
• 1:26:27
  Speaker 2: and good righting and good movies and interesting characters. That's
• 1:26:33
  Speaker 2: what he means. Yeah, and also that he's ostracized all
• 1:26:39
  Speaker 2: of this, his movement is ostracized and called all of
• 1:26:42
  Speaker 2: this the right. And now he's turning around and saying, well,
• 1:26:45
  Speaker 2: look at where it's like it's like the left went
• 1:26:48
  Speaker 2: around with one of you know, those one of those
• 1:26:50
  Speaker 2: guns with the labels, right, the label guns.
• 1:26:54
  Speaker 1: I don't know what you know, I know you're talking about.
• 1:27:00
  Speaker 2: And just and the only thing they're writing out is
• 1:27:02
  Speaker 2: this is this is far right. And they put it
• 1:27:04
  Speaker 2: on literally everything. They put it on good writing, they
• 1:27:07
  Speaker 2: put it on art, they put it on health, they
• 1:27:09
  Speaker 2: put it on natural foods, you know, they put it
• 1:27:12
  Speaker 2: on suspicion of seed oils or the government. They put
• 1:27:14
  Speaker 2: it on literally flipping everything. And then this guy's turns
• 1:27:19
  Speaker 2: around and says, look at how much how the right
• 1:27:22
  Speaker 2: is it has infiltrated everything. These people are clowns.
• 1:27:28
  Speaker 1: Yep, all right, Oh let's uh is there more of this?
• 1:27:32
  Speaker 1: Let's play some more?
• 1:27:33
  Speaker 2: Yeah?
• 1:27:33
  Speaker 3: Sure, yeah, I'm been interested in learning how to bake
• 1:27:37
  Speaker 3: sour bread dough. You're telling me earlier chances are the
• 1:27:40
  Speaker 3: content creator giving that to you supports Trump. And I
• 1:27:43
  Speaker 3: feel like the root of this issue has to do
• 1:27:46
  Speaker 3: with issues within the d.
• 1:27:49
  Speaker 2: Yes, because the left hates everything that's good. I don't
• 1:27:54
  Speaker 2: want to say, I mean.
• 1:27:55
  Speaker 1: If a girl wants to wear a dress and an
• 1:27:57
  Speaker 1: apron and bake sour dough like Estelle whatever her name is,
• 1:28:04
  Speaker 1: Like I mean, like a lot of times, like these
• 1:28:06
  Speaker 1: female influencers that are like trad influencers, they're they're just
• 1:28:11
  Speaker 1: they're just working like modern women that just have I've
• 1:28:14
  Speaker 1: found like a niche and they're just sort of like
• 1:28:17
  Speaker 1: it's like wearing a costume, Like they're doing an aesthetic thing.
• 1:28:20
  Speaker 3: Right.
• 1:28:20
  Speaker 1: Like Karen, she basically and by all accounts, lives trads.
• 1:28:26
  Speaker 1: She stays home, she cooks and cleans, you know, for
• 1:28:29
  Speaker 1: her man. But she's not like walking around in a
• 1:28:33
  Speaker 1: sun dress and like baking sour dough. So when those
• 1:28:37
  Speaker 1: those women that do it online, they're putting on an
• 1:28:39
  Speaker 1: image that they like and it's it's an aesthetic thing.
• 1:28:42
  Speaker 1: So this is the thing that I think it's hilarious.
• 1:28:45
  Speaker 1: You would have to criticize women to change that, but
• 1:28:50
  Speaker 1: you are not allowed to criticize women. So what are
• 1:28:53
  Speaker 1: you gonna do? This is why they go after men,
• 1:28:56
  Speaker 1: by the way, I mean, he's making an argument like
• 1:28:58
  Speaker 1: he's using he's trying to bring women into it, but
• 1:29:00
  Speaker 1: he's never going to go after those women for baking
• 1:29:03
  Speaker 1: sour dough and dresses because you know, you can't criticize
• 1:29:06
  Speaker 1: women exact. Yeah, baking great is right wing, that's.
• 1:29:10
  Speaker 2: Right, Yes, Yes, anything anything for yourself.
• 1:29:13
  Speaker 1: It's not just right wing, it's far right.
• 1:29:15
  Speaker 2: If you do ever do anything for yourself, if you
• 1:29:20
  Speaker 2: ever build anything for yourself. If you ever grow chickens
• 1:29:23
  Speaker 2: baked bread, that's far right.
• 1:29:25
  Speaker 1: Guys.
• 1:29:26
  Speaker 2: You have to buy everything from a gigantic megacorp mm hmm.
• 1:29:31
  Speaker 2: That's it.
• 1:29:32
  Speaker 1: And then make sure it's in the back.
• 1:29:35
  Speaker 2: Yeah. And and if you get fat from that, just
• 1:29:38
  Speaker 2: feel good about yourself.
• 1:29:39
  Speaker 1: Ye, just eat.
• 1:29:42
  Speaker 2: Also, like I was thinking, I'm listening to this and thinking,
• 1:29:45
  Speaker 2: don't they also consider relationships to be far right at
• 1:29:48
  Speaker 2: this point, like.
• 1:29:49
  Speaker 1: Hetero monopoy marriage children.
• 1:29:56
  Speaker 2: That's why they keep going with this polyamory stuff. It's
• 1:29:59
  Speaker 2: because monogamy heterosexuality is now far right. And then he
• 1:30:04
  Speaker 2: again the left out with the label gun, this is
• 1:30:08
  Speaker 2: far right, this is far right. Oh, look everything is.
• 1:30:10
  Speaker 2: Look at how much the far right has infiltrated the culture.
• 1:30:13
  Speaker 2: I mean, look heterosexual relationships, label gun far right. Look
• 1:30:18
  Speaker 2: at how many people are far right they're in heterosexual relationships,
• 1:30:22
  Speaker 2: like and that's the And then another thing. If your
• 1:30:26
  Speaker 2: party is labeling a man in a relationship with a
• 1:30:30
  Speaker 2: woman far right or suspect of being on the right,
• 1:30:35
  Speaker 2: don't you think that that party is going to end
• 1:30:37
  Speaker 2: up destroying those relationships because you're you're essentially you're essentially
• 1:30:42
  Speaker 2: saying to women, you can either be a Democrat or
• 1:30:44
  Speaker 2: you can be married woman. Like, we're almost there yet, right, Yeah.
• 1:30:51
  Speaker 1: Yeah, We're almost there. Okay, let's go back to this.
• 1:30:53
  Speaker 3: Yeah, all right, and see in the Democratic Party not
• 1:30:58
  Speaker 3: necessarily being as good as they could be at their messaging.
• 1:31:01
  Speaker 6: Now on the messaging though, Dean specifically, so you're kind.
• 1:31:03
  Speaker 5: Of you're going to say this without making any political plants.
• 1:31:06
  Speaker 6: No, no, I mean this is specifically about what you
• 1:31:07
  Speaker 6: asked about. If you were just involved in an effort
• 1:31:10
  Speaker 6: to organize an anti Trump tour called the Unfuck America Tour,
• 1:31:15
  Speaker 6: well guess why, guys, I like this. The Unfuck America
• 1:31:19
  Speaker 6: Tour descended into chaos over imaginary microaggressions that are heard
• 1:31:24
  Speaker 6: in a TikTok live. I watched the whole live microaggressions,
• 1:31:28
  Speaker 6: which is not a real concept. First of all, to
• 1:31:30
  Speaker 6: the extent that it is, there were no microaggressions on
• 1:31:33
  Speaker 6: the call. In fact, the white woman accused of microgression
• 1:31:36
  Speaker 6: was actually pretty vociferously racially abused.
• 1:31:39
  Speaker 1: By the women on the TikTok live. They tried to
• 1:31:42
  Speaker 1: organize a tour to resist Trump.
• 1:31:45
  Speaker 6: All the liberal stars of TikTok Dean and many of
• 1:31:47
  Speaker 6: his friends, and it imploded over internal.
• 1:31:49
  Speaker 1: Writing over microggs. But yeah, that eventually it eats itself.
• 1:31:57
  Speaker 1: That's the thing. Especially when you get women involved. It's like, yeah,
• 1:32:04
  Speaker 1: that's like you.
• 1:32:05
  Speaker 2: Said, it's call of duty for women. It's this. It
• 1:32:09
  Speaker 2: is basically posturing and getting into fights over who is
• 1:32:14
  Speaker 2: socially acceptable and who's going to actually not who is
• 1:32:17
  Speaker 2: socially who gets to set what is socially acceptable, who
• 1:32:21
  Speaker 2: gets to be the queen of the hill of the
• 1:32:24
  Speaker 2: socially acceptable, you know, and and who gets to decide
• 1:32:28
  Speaker 2: where everyone else stands in relation to her dominance over
• 1:32:32
  Speaker 2: the narrative. That's this is what this, this sounds like happened.
• 1:32:37
  Speaker 2: And like I said a long time ago when we
• 1:32:39
  Speaker 2: when gamer Gates started, what's gonna end up happening is
• 1:32:42
  Speaker 2: these communities are going to be empty craters with two
• 1:32:45
  Speaker 2: of these individuals fighting over trying to fight over kicking
• 1:32:50
  Speaker 2: the other one out of the empty crater. And yes,
• 1:32:54
  Speaker 2: this is this is what happens when you don't control
• 1:32:59
  Speaker 2: those kind of immature aspects of femininity, like the need
• 1:33:02
  Speaker 2: to be the moral center and judge everyone else based
• 1:33:06
  Speaker 2: on you. This kind of caddy social climbing and false
• 1:33:11
  Speaker 2: accusations like and that's what that that entire thing descends into.
• 1:33:17
  Speaker 2: It's a lack of masculinity, it is, but of course
• 1:33:23
  Speaker 2: masculinity is far right. So good luck Man.
• 1:33:26
  Speaker 1: Was another reason why I think this was good was
• 1:33:29
  Speaker 1: they saw him as a good choice because he's kind
• 1:33:32
  Speaker 1: of I mean, he's so young, though, Like I don't
• 1:33:34
  Speaker 1: really hate him. I just think he's ignorant, Like I
• 1:33:37
  Speaker 1: think he's a tool and you're.
• 1:33:39
  Speaker 2: Too young to know what or or do you are
• 1:33:43
  Speaker 2: you talking about Brad?
• 1:33:44
  Speaker 1: No, no, no, no, no, no, Dean Dean Withers. No,
• 1:33:47
  Speaker 1: I don't know anything about Brad. Uh Dean Dean Withers
• 1:33:50
  Speaker 1: is really young. He's twenty years old, so like put
• 1:33:52
  Speaker 1: that in perspective, like he wasn't even born when nine
• 1:33:55
  Speaker 1: to eleven happened, so he isn't really there's like no
• 1:33:59
  Speaker 1: all essentially, all he has is what he was told
• 1:34:02
  Speaker 1: to say. That's what I'm That's why I don't think
• 1:34:04
  Speaker 1: he's real, Like I don't know, maybe I'm do you
• 1:34:07
  Speaker 1: guys think I'm being unfair to him? Do you think
• 1:34:09
  Speaker 1: that a twenty year old can like talk about the
• 1:34:11
  Speaker 1: world this way? I mean, I'm sure it's not impossible,
• 1:34:14
  Speaker 1: but like you have to do a lot of research,
• 1:34:16
  Speaker 1: like to understand history. So I've had another super chat
• 1:34:22
  Speaker 1: from ZARANX for five and he says, when you point
• 1:34:25
  Speaker 1: out that the left's enemies tend to be inside out
• 1:34:28
  Speaker 1: versions of themselves rather opposites, thank you for that. Well,
• 1:34:33
  Speaker 1: I guess it's become they they become kind of like defined,
• 1:34:36
  Speaker 1: They define themselves by what they oppose, so they have
• 1:34:39
  Speaker 1: to like take on the opposite. It's it's a crazy inversion.
• 1:34:43
  Speaker 1: I think it's gone like way off the rails. But
• 1:34:45
  Speaker 1: you know what, I think this is a self correcting problem.
• 1:34:48
  Speaker 1: I'm not really concerned because I think that what you
• 1:34:51
  Speaker 1: are seeing is essentially you have the people who, if
• 1:34:57
  Speaker 1: you like, consider this all like one big conversation, which
• 1:35:00
  Speaker 1: is how I see it. And you have people that
• 1:35:04
  Speaker 1: are like having serious conversations that are meaningful, and then
• 1:35:08
  Speaker 1: you have people like this that are just trying to
• 1:35:09
  Speaker 1: like use like you know, marketing and optics to get
• 1:35:12
  Speaker 1: people to change their minds. And I think that over time,
• 1:35:15
  Speaker 1: the people who have nothing useful to say are going
• 1:35:20
  Speaker 1: to like go to the wayside, and and all that
• 1:35:22
  Speaker 1: will be left are the people having and they'll be
• 1:35:24
  Speaker 1: they'll have their own let's say, like I don't know,
• 1:35:28
  Speaker 1: like areas where they disagree with they'll work it out.
• 1:35:31
  Speaker 1: And that's why the conversation has to keep going. And
• 1:35:33
  Speaker 1: that's why I'm all for that. So and I'm actually
• 1:35:36
  Speaker 1: very optimistic about the future, to be honest, Alison, are
• 1:35:42
  Speaker 1: you there?
• 1:35:43
  Speaker 2: Yeah, I'm I'm actually playing with something.
• 1:35:45
  Speaker 1: Ye yes, I I what are you playing with? I
• 1:35:48
  Speaker 1: don't want to know?
• 1:35:49
  Speaker 2: Title generator okay, because it actually drew me in because
• 1:35:54
  Speaker 2: I was I was using the title generator to generate
• 1:35:56
  Speaker 2: something about women's accountability and refusing to take accountability. And
• 1:36:01
  Speaker 2: when I put women in, it gave me uh a
• 1:36:05
  Speaker 2: score of like thirty six, and I'm like okay, and
• 1:36:08
  Speaker 2: I kept trying to get it to regenerate to make
• 1:36:10
  Speaker 2: a better title. But then I'm like, well what if
• 1:36:13
  Speaker 2: I put men in? And instantly it goes up to
• 1:36:16
  Speaker 2: eighty six, like okay, And so apparently the algorithm just
• 1:36:21
  Speaker 2: doesn't like that kind of Is it red pill or
• 1:36:24
  Speaker 2: is it just men's issues men's issues content?
• 1:36:27
  Speaker 1: Well they it it's all the same thing, yeah, algorithm.
• 1:36:34
  Speaker 2: I mean, you can't get away from it. Men's issues
• 1:36:37
  Speaker 2: at the heart require women to take accountability at some level.
• 1:36:43
  Speaker 2: So and we don't have us. We don't have a
• 1:36:46
  Speaker 2: culture of holding women accountable. We have a culture of
• 1:36:49
  Speaker 2: constant excuses. Like I want to if possible, I want
• 1:36:53
  Speaker 2: to go through to two articles that I made into
• 1:36:58
  Speaker 2: like animations day to h yeah, yeah, later in the
• 1:37:05
  Speaker 2: evening or in the afternoon or evening for you. And
• 1:37:08
  Speaker 2: they one is it's not women's fault that they're attracted
• 1:37:14
  Speaker 2: to men who are tall, it's patriarchy. And the second
• 1:37:19
  Speaker 2: is that women don't cheat because they want to hurt
• 1:37:23
  Speaker 2: their partner. They cheat because their partners so awful. They're
• 1:37:26
  Speaker 2: trying to stay in the relationship by getting what they
• 1:37:29
  Speaker 2: need from someone else. And I'm like, wow, that's a
• 1:37:33
  Speaker 2: lot of accountability dodging. But yeah, speaking of accountability dodging,
• 1:37:38
  Speaker 2: like again, and the Left is going to be hit
• 1:37:42
  Speaker 2: with this stuff because it will not hold women accountable
• 1:37:45
  Speaker 2: for this kind of crap, this kind of behavior, and
• 1:37:48
  Speaker 2: this guy and Paul or Brad is calling him out
• 1:37:52
  Speaker 2: on it, saying you couldn't even get this started, which
• 1:37:55
  Speaker 2: is supposedly about helping the Democratic Party, because again, the
• 1:38:00
  Speaker 2: Democratic Party sets the line or the foundation of what
• 1:38:05
  Speaker 2: they're about, what they're allowed to talk about in terms
• 1:38:08
  Speaker 2: of women's offense. And once you do that, that's that
• 1:38:13
  Speaker 2: becomes the only topic that becomes the entirety of your politics.
• 1:38:17
  Speaker 2: What offends women or doesn't offend women. Well, if that's
• 1:38:22
  Speaker 2: even possible, I think it might be far right to
• 1:38:24
  Speaker 2: have things that don't offend women. Get that label gun out.
• 1:38:30
  Speaker 1: Okay, all right, So do you want to Is that
• 1:38:32
  Speaker 1: it for this video? I think it is.
• 1:38:34
  Speaker 2: Yeah, I think so.
• 1:38:35
  Speaker 1: Do you want to look at this White House.
• 1:38:37
  Speaker 2: Or the White House? Let's see what the White House,
• 1:38:41
  Speaker 2: this current administration has to say about men and men's issues.
• 1:38:45
  Speaker 1: All right, So we have this statement that was made
• 1:38:50
  Speaker 1: by the White House on June thirteenth, twenty twenty five,
• 1:38:54
  Speaker 1: so about two weeks ago. All right, Presidential message on
• 1:38:58
  Speaker 1: National Men's Health twenty twenty five. For far too long,
• 1:39:02
  Speaker 1: the health, happiness, and well being of our nation's men
• 1:39:06
  Speaker 1: have been neglected, contributing to a troubling reality. Men in
• 1:39:10
  Speaker 1: the United States have a life expectancy five years shorter
• 1:39:13
  Speaker 1: than women, They visit healthcare providers less frequently, and often
• 1:39:17
  Speaker 1: delay critical care. Men tend to have their first heart
• 1:39:20
  Speaker 1: attack in average of ten years earlier than women. This
• 1:39:24
  Speaker 1: neglect has been compounded by a vicious campaign against masculinity.
• 1:39:28
  Speaker 1: The war on manhood has left many American men in
• 1:39:31
  Speaker 1: a state of loneliness, confusion, and emptiness, with devastating consequences.
• 1:39:36
  Speaker 1: Men in the United States are four times more likely
• 1:39:39
  Speaker 1: to commit suicide and more than twice as likely to
• 1:39:42
  Speaker 1: overdose than women. This National Men's Health Week, I make
• 1:39:46
  Speaker 1: a solemn pledge to honor the men in America. We
• 1:39:49
  Speaker 1: will always have your back and we will never waver
• 1:39:52
  Speaker 1: in our promise to embolden you to lead long, healthy
• 1:39:54
  Speaker 1: and safe lives. Just last month, I proudly signed an
• 1:39:59
  Speaker 1: executive order to deliver post favored nation pricing to American patients,
• 1:40:04
  Speaker 1: improve access to quality medical care, and lower the price
• 1:40:08
  Speaker 1: of medications. Together with my Make America Healthy Again Commission,
• 1:40:12
  Speaker 1: this is led by Robert F. Kennedy, Junior, we are
• 1:40:15
  Speaker 1: empowering men to prioritize their health and prolong their lives.
• 1:40:18
  Speaker 1: Under my leadership, we will relentlessly pursue a healthier future
• 1:40:22
  Speaker 1: for the men of our nation. We will always lift
• 1:40:25
  Speaker 1: you up rather than tear you down, and we will
• 1:40:27
  Speaker 1: champion the voices values and wellness of hard working American
• 1:40:31
  Speaker 1: men across our country.
• 1:40:33
  Speaker 2: Okay, so again I'm not this is like, I don't
• 1:40:37
  Speaker 2: think this administration is necessarily very strongly conservative in the
• 1:40:40
  Speaker 2: traditional sense, which is why he got some of that.
• 1:40:44
  Speaker 2: Trump got so much opposition from more entrenched Republicans. Shall
• 1:40:48
  Speaker 2: we say, but how like compare these two these two messages.
• 1:40:53
  Speaker 2: Now I wish he called it what it was. He
• 1:40:57
  Speaker 2: says vicious attacks. Yeh, where are those atta coming from?
• 1:41:02
  Speaker 1: Right?
• 1:41:03
  Speaker 2: But on the other hand, like, compare these two messages.
• 1:41:07
  Speaker 2: Compare what is being said. It's not even the messages.
• 1:41:10
  Speaker 2: Compare the content of the messages. One expresses concern. It's
• 1:41:14
  Speaker 2: not blaming men for their own problems, especially when those
• 1:41:17
  Speaker 2: problems are inflicted by a system that doesn't serve them
• 1:41:20
  Speaker 2: increasingly as actively harmful. Not only does wow, what the heck?
• 1:41:26
  Speaker 2: That was quite the slam. Yeah, but compare those two
• 1:41:31
  Speaker 2: messages and think about it. Think about why men would
• 1:41:38
  Speaker 2: vote for one versus the other, especially since again, the
• 1:41:43
  Speaker 2: more traditionally conservative attitudes have been jettisoned from this administration,
• 1:41:49
  Speaker 2: and those would have been the attitudes that would have
• 1:41:50
  Speaker 2: stopped young men from voting along these lines. Along these
• 1:41:55
  Speaker 2: party lines, along to on a right platform in the past.
• 1:42:00
  Speaker 6: Right.
• 1:42:01
  Speaker 2: So now we have a situation where we have a
• 1:42:03
  Speaker 2: party that is actively talking about these issues. Now the
• 1:42:08
  Speaker 2: left can't fight, They can't they can't compete with that,
• 1:42:11
  Speaker 2: not with what this man is saying, not with what
• 1:42:17
  Speaker 2: Withers is saying. When what is he saying? Oh, well,
• 1:42:20
  Speaker 2: the problem with the left is it hasn't properly packaged
• 1:42:25
  Speaker 2: statements about how all of these problems men facing, you know,
• 1:42:30
  Speaker 2: they feel like disadvantages when you lose your privileges. So
• 1:42:34
  Speaker 2: basically he's saying that the Left's only the only thing
• 1:42:38
  Speaker 2: that the left offers men is to reframe the problems
• 1:42:43
  Speaker 2: that they face as something illegitimate, something we shouldn't address,
• 1:42:49
  Speaker 2: and something they should take responsibility emotionally for dealing with,
• 1:42:53
  Speaker 2: because it's just the loss of their privilege. Do you
• 1:42:55
  Speaker 2: get what I'm saying. So he's saying, men's problems, you're
• 1:42:58
  Speaker 2: just losing your privilege. So you guys just suck it up,
• 1:43:01
  Speaker 2: and you can't just stuck it up and be a
• 1:43:03
  Speaker 2: man because they don't recognize that being a man is
• 1:43:05
  Speaker 2: a set of expectations that we put on men that
• 1:43:08
  Speaker 2: they should have respect for achieving. No, they can't accept
• 1:43:11
  Speaker 2: that or even that masculinity is inherently more capable of
• 1:43:15
  Speaker 2: managing emotions. No, you just need to suck it up, buttercup,
• 1:43:19
  Speaker 2: because you aren't as tough and you aren't as strong
• 1:43:25
  Speaker 2: as women, and all you're doing is complaining about your
• 1:43:28
  Speaker 2: loss of privilege. Right, what is that as an answer
• 1:43:32
  Speaker 2: to genuine problems? What kind of answer is that to
• 1:43:35
  Speaker 2: genuine problems.
• 1:43:36
  Speaker 1: That men have?
• 1:43:37
  Speaker 2: Right, genuine things that maybe out of their control, maybe
• 1:43:41
  Speaker 2: you just need to give them the tools to overcome them, whatever,
• 1:43:44
  Speaker 2: But they have genuine problems, and that's the left's answer
• 1:43:47
  Speaker 2: to them. Like everybody here, I get it. You like
• 1:43:52
  Speaker 2: certain aspects of the historic left platform, I get it.
• 1:43:57
  Speaker 2: But how do you how can you look at that
• 1:43:59
  Speaker 2: and say there's anything for men in the current modern Left,
• 1:44:05
  Speaker 2: which really, honestly is just corporal slop. But regardless, like,
• 1:44:09
  Speaker 2: where is it? The two messages couldn't be more stark. Yes,
• 1:44:14
  Speaker 2: we will understand and respect the fact that you have
• 1:44:17
  Speaker 2: problems and will recognize that you're important to the functioning
• 1:44:20
  Speaker 2: of the nation and that your problems are our problems.
• 1:44:23
  Speaker 2: And the other one is, yeah, suck it up, Buttercup,
• 1:44:26
  Speaker 2: you're just losing your privileges.
• 1:44:27
  Speaker 1: Hor horror, horror, Like, don't you hear about equality? Should?
• 1:44:32
  Speaker 2: Yeah, And as a men's issues advocate, how can I
• 1:44:37
  Speaker 2: look at that and honestly say, I can't cape for
• 1:44:40
  Speaker 2: the left? Guys. I mean I used to be more liberal.
• 1:44:44
  Speaker 2: I think I still have the same liberal values that
• 1:44:46
  Speaker 2: I had years and years ago, and then I watched
• 1:44:49
  Speaker 2: the left just evolve into a corporate mouthpiece and the
• 1:44:54
  Speaker 2: only thing that they offer men is at best. You
• 1:44:57
  Speaker 2: could say by redefining this, you know, men's problems is
• 1:45:02
  Speaker 2: a result of their own loss of privilege. Maybe you
• 1:45:05
  Speaker 2: could consider it like numbing, Like you're numbing them so
• 1:45:09
  Speaker 2: that they can suffer more quietly. That's what you offer
• 1:45:13
  Speaker 2: men cope and numbing.
• 1:45:17
  Speaker 1: Mm hmm yep, and the satisfaction of knowing that they're
• 1:45:22
  Speaker 1: doing the right.
• 1:45:23
  Speaker 2: Thing for with yeah, even though they're not right.
• 1:45:27
  Speaker 1: No, but I mean there's yeah, they're not, but they
• 1:45:30
  Speaker 1: should know that they are, they should think they are,
• 1:45:32
  Speaker 1: and that's finally matters.
• 1:45:34
  Speaker 2: The funny thing is, again, this is this is how
• 1:45:37
  Speaker 2: I've seen I've starting to realize and again I think
• 1:45:40
  Speaker 2: this is a new argument, completely new completely new to
• 1:45:44
  Speaker 2: this channel. I'm saying it right now. It is a
• 1:45:48
  Speaker 2: war against the boundaries that men place in society. It's
• 1:45:54
  Speaker 2: a war against the national boundaries. You know, men responsible
• 1:45:58
  Speaker 2: for the gate. The war all to make sure that
• 1:46:01
  Speaker 2: the violence is kept out so you can create a
• 1:46:03
  Speaker 2: place of peace, security, relative comfort, and justice. Right, it's
• 1:46:08
  Speaker 2: a fight against that because women just I'm not just
• 1:46:12
  Speaker 2: saying I'm not saying all women. I'm saying single women,
• 1:46:15
  Speaker 2: women who have not learned to have a relationship with
• 1:46:19
  Speaker 2: a man. That's really critical. They have not learned how
• 1:46:22
  Speaker 2: to maintain a relationship with a man. Right, Those women,
• 1:46:26
  Speaker 2: they don't understand the boundaries that men set up. They're
• 1:46:28
  Speaker 2: suspicious of them. They think that they're hateful. They look
• 1:46:32
  Speaker 2: at the guite, the gate and the wall and they say, oh,
• 1:46:35
  Speaker 2: and they live in this situation of comfort and prosperity.
• 1:46:39
  Speaker 2: You know, they're they're enjoying being able to walk to
• 1:46:41
  Speaker 2: the stream without being attacked. They're enjoying being able to,
• 1:46:44
  Speaker 2: you know, build their little business within the safety of
• 1:46:47
  Speaker 2: the wall. They're looking at and they see, oh, there's
• 1:46:50
  Speaker 2: justice here. It's wonderful. And that put that wall, it's
• 1:46:54
  Speaker 2: just stopping everything wonderful in here from being everywhere. Those men,
• 1:47:00
  Speaker 2: they just keep up that wall, stopping everything wonderful in
• 1:47:04
  Speaker 2: here from being everywhere. That's the way women see this
• 1:47:08
  Speaker 2: when they don't understand why men do what they do,
• 1:47:11
  Speaker 2: when they can't have a relationship with men, when they
• 1:47:14
  Speaker 2: don't have that intimate connection so that they can understand.
• 1:47:18
  Speaker 1: Why men do.
• 1:47:19
  Speaker 2: That's how they see the gate the wall, And that's
• 1:47:22
  Speaker 2: how they see meritocracy. Oh, those evil men. Why do
• 1:47:25
  Speaker 2: they have to Why don't they create these systems of
• 1:47:28
  Speaker 2: winners and losers because it incentivizes productivity. But they don't
• 1:47:32
  Speaker 2: see that. What they see is the losers. Oh, those
• 1:47:35
  Speaker 2: poor poor DearS, they're losing. We got to get rid
• 1:47:38
  Speaker 2: of that. Everybody should get a medal for no matter
• 1:47:42
  Speaker 2: what work that they do, even if it's crap, even
• 1:47:44
  Speaker 2: if they're not doing any work. Everybody should get every
• 1:47:46
  Speaker 2: the same thing. And then the meritocracy is gone, the
• 1:47:50
  Speaker 2: gate and the wall is gone. The meritocracy is gone.
• 1:47:52
  Speaker 2: And then they look at the justice system. Oh, why
• 1:47:55
  Speaker 2: are you being so mean to the disadvantaged?
• 1:47:58
  Speaker 1: That's so mean.
• 1:48:00
  Speaker 2: And then our altruistic punishment is out the window, and
• 1:48:04
  Speaker 2: on and on and on and it's one hundred percent
• 1:48:07
  Speaker 2: an emergent property of women who have the power of
• 1:48:13
  Speaker 2: establishing this kind of emotional emotional habits around things. And again,
• 1:48:18
  Speaker 2: I use this example over and over again. But watch
• 1:48:21
  Speaker 2: a movie, something happens, a character is introduced, and the
• 1:48:25
  Speaker 2: movie immediately switches to the reaction of a woman because
• 1:48:29
  Speaker 2: women set whether or not how we feel about things.
• 1:48:34
  Speaker 2: And now women are saying that every boundary that men
• 1:48:38
  Speaker 2: make that maintains our society is a bad thing. Like there,
• 1:48:43
  Speaker 2: their party is doing that, and what's happening. Everyone is deteriorating, right,
• 1:48:51
  Speaker 2: this is what's going on. This is what underlies all
• 1:48:55
  Speaker 2: of the politics that you're seeing. And we have one
• 1:48:58
  Speaker 2: party that's saying, hey, maybe we should stop, you know,
• 1:49:02
  Speaker 2: hating on men, and we have another party that's saying, well,
• 1:49:06
  Speaker 2: if men have problems, we just need to hate them
• 1:49:09
  Speaker 2: more and that'll solve it. Which way, young man. And
• 1:49:15
  Speaker 2: then again, my conclusion is the one that's destroying all
• 1:49:19
  Speaker 2: of the boundaries that maintains a society because it's basically
• 1:49:25
  Speaker 2: the political opinions of women who can't maintain relationships with
• 1:49:29
  Speaker 2: men that party. What is it leading to? In the UK?
• 1:49:36
  Speaker 2: The grooming gangs. What is it leading to here, increased crime,
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  Speaker 2: increased economic stagnation, which is going to harm everyone. So ultimately,
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  Speaker 2: the destruction of the system that women rely on is
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  Speaker 2: really going to screw women. So even if you care
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  Speaker 2: about women, you need to understand as a young man,
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  Speaker 2: you need to advocate for yourself. You need to advocate
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  Speaker 2: for how you see the world and the boundaries that
• 1:50:04
  Speaker 2: men set up. You need to advocate for masculinity, or
• 1:50:08
  Speaker 2: you need to understand that it is important to society
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  Speaker 2: because the ones women are not going to somehow be
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  Speaker 2: elevated into heaven when everything comes crashing down because they
• 1:50:21
  Speaker 2: don't understand the boundaries that men set so they've destroyed them.
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  Speaker 2: They get rid of the fence, they get rid of
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  Speaker 2: the gate, right because all the evil men, all of
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  Speaker 2: our evil men, they put up this gate to keep
• 1:50:34
  Speaker 2: the fairness and comfort and all the wonderful things away
• 1:50:37
  Speaker 2: from all of the people who just also deserve them.
• 1:50:40
  Speaker 2: They're keeping them away from the rest of the world.
• 1:50:42
  Speaker 2: And you get rid of that gate, and what happens
• 1:50:45
  Speaker 2: because this is the problem. So you if you are
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  Speaker 2: on the left and you're a man, you are not
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  Speaker 2: advocating for a future that's worth living in, even for women,
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  Speaker 2: is what I'm getting at. Does anybody understand what I'm saying?
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  Speaker 1: Yeah, yeah, yeah, get it.
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  Speaker 2: Yeah. But ultimately all of this, what underlies all of
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  Speaker 2: this is women's discomfort with the boundaries that men said
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  Speaker 2: and the fact they don't understand them and they're destroying everything.
• 1:51:16
  Speaker 2: And once again, we can try to save something, right.
• 1:51:22
  Speaker 2: We can have a party that understands, maybe is starting
• 1:51:24
  Speaker 2: to understand, that masculinity is absolutely essential for the running
• 1:51:27
  Speaker 2: of society and when you get rid of it, what
• 1:51:29
  Speaker 2: you end up with is a hell hole. Or you
• 1:51:33
  Speaker 2: can go with the party that says, uh, yeah, no,
• 1:51:36
  Speaker 2: we can get rid of that, we don't need it,
• 1:51:38
  Speaker 2: and you should feel bad and the problems you have
• 1:51:41
  Speaker 2: aren't also the problems that all of society will end
• 1:51:43
  Speaker 2: up happening. Just shut up, buy more, swap okay, yeah,
• 1:51:47
  Speaker 2: make your choice, all right.
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  Speaker 1: I got a super child from Albatross for five dollars.
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  Speaker 1: Thank you, Albatross. He didn't say anything, he just put
• 1:51:55
  Speaker 1: in the super child, So I don't know if you
• 1:51:56
  Speaker 1: meant to say something, Albatross. But then I got a
• 1:52:01
  Speaker 1: super chat from Gary Thomas, who says, for ten dollars.
• 1:52:05
  Speaker 1: Thank you, Gary. It's always a pleasure to hear the
• 1:52:07
  Speaker 1: honey Badgers. Also, how do I get into the discord
• 1:52:10
  Speaker 1: to watch past after shows? I paid the five dollars membership,
• 1:52:14
  Speaker 1: but I'm technologically illiterate despite being born in nineteen ninety five.
• 1:52:18
  Speaker 2: Go to Badger Nation dot online and start up a
• 1:52:22
  Speaker 2: a account Cord. Yeah, Discord actually you know. I Also,
• 1:52:28
  Speaker 2: before we go any further, I probably should remind everyone
• 1:52:30
  Speaker 2: that we are doing a meetup in Calgary September thirteenth,
• 1:52:34
  Speaker 2: So mark September thirteenth on your calendars, and if you're interested,
• 1:52:38
  Speaker 2: please tell me now because we actually have a venue
• 1:52:42
  Speaker 2: and we have reduced rates for hotel, So send that
• 1:52:45
  Speaker 2: to Badger at Feedbadger dot com. Do it now, because
• 1:52:49
  Speaker 2: it's we don't it's not going to be big, so
• 1:52:53
  Speaker 2: you might not have we might not have space for
• 1:52:54
  Speaker 2: you if you don't actually tell me you want to
• 1:52:57
  Speaker 2: go now. So it's Calgary, number thirteenth, and please send
• 1:53:03
  Speaker 2: me message Badger at feed the Badger dot com. Badger
• 1:53:06
  Speaker 2: at feed the Badger dot com if you want to go,
• 1:53:09
  Speaker 2: do it now, because again, like you don't have a
• 1:53:12
  Speaker 2: lot of space. It's not gonna be a big venue,
• 1:53:15
  Speaker 2: all right, all.
• 1:53:16
  Speaker 1: Right, so uh yeah, that's it for the Superchows and
• 1:53:20
  Speaker 1: I guess we should wrap it up, so I gotta
• 1:53:21
  Speaker 1: go pick. I gotta pick Lindsay up soon.
• 1:53:24
  Speaker 2: So yes, gotcha all right, So I guess, uh, thank you.
• 1:53:30
  Speaker 1: Uh.
• 1:53:30
  Speaker 2: And if you want to send us message anytime after
• 1:53:33
  Speaker 2: the show is over, feedbadger dot com slash just the tip.
• 1:53:35
  Speaker 2: I will be putting on a fundraiser for the meetup.
• 1:53:38
  Speaker 2: And once again, you want to come, or if you
• 1:53:40
  Speaker 2: just want to be, you just want to know, you know,
• 1:53:43
  Speaker 2: get information about the event badger at feed the Badger
• 1:53:46
  Speaker 2: dot com and I'll be sure to keep you up
• 1:53:49
  Speaker 2: to bread up to date on all of the details.
• 1:53:53
  Speaker 1: Yeah, I'm going to try to go. We're gonna try
• 1:53:55
  Speaker 1: and go up there. We just probably need to raise
• 1:53:57
  Speaker 1: a little money for gas and maybe a hotel.
• 1:54:00
  Speaker 2: Like no you the hotel will be will be with
• 1:54:02
  Speaker 2: no no like when we drive.
• 1:54:04
  Speaker 1: We're gonna drive, so we gotta like we gotta go
• 1:54:07
  Speaker 1: from here to Chicago day one. I can stay by
• 1:54:10
  Speaker 1: my mom's place and then from Chicago we go usually
• 1:54:13
  Speaker 1: to like Fargo or someplace in North Dakota. And we
• 1:54:17
  Speaker 1: have to stay somewhere, so we might get a hotel
• 1:54:20
  Speaker 1: for one night there and one night on the way back,
• 1:54:22
  Speaker 1: as well as gas. But but otherwise, yeah, I'm good
• 1:54:25
  Speaker 1: to go in my new car Israel. And you have
• 1:54:29
  Speaker 1: to bless my car by paying me so because I've
• 1:54:32
  Speaker 1: named it Israel, and if you call it Israel, then
• 1:54:34
  Speaker 1: it's biblically accurate. So give me money so that I
• 1:54:37
  Speaker 1: can like continue to use it for stuff. You never know,
• 1:54:40
  Speaker 1: I hear that the neighbor. You know, he might be
• 1:54:43
  Speaker 1: like planning to steal my car, so we have to
• 1:54:46
  Speaker 1: do something. He might be planning to blow it up.
• 1:54:51
  Speaker 2: No, not not just your car, but all the cars.
• 1:54:53
  Speaker 1: Yeah, all the cars. Right, well if my car, your
• 1:54:56
  Speaker 1: car is next.
• 1:54:57
  Speaker 2: But yeah, exactly in their inner interest. It's in our
• 1:55:01
  Speaker 2: interest to pay for Israel.
• 1:55:03
  Speaker 1: Yes, it's in your interest to pay for my car Israel.
• 1:55:06
  Speaker 2: Yes, okay. So feed the Badger dot com slash just
• 1:55:09
  Speaker 2: the tip if you want to send a message Badger
• 1:55:12
  Speaker 2: at feed the Badger dot com. If you want to
• 1:55:15
  Speaker 2: stay abreast of the events or like the details on
• 1:55:19
  Speaker 2: our meetup September thirteenth in Calgary this year, and you
• 1:55:23
  Speaker 2: can also come and be part of the community to
• 1:55:25
  Speaker 2: do the same. At Badger Nation dot online. I can't
• 1:55:30
  Speaker 2: really help you with any kind of technological stuff there,
• 1:55:34
  Speaker 2: but if you go to Badger Nation dot online you
• 1:55:36
  Speaker 2: should be able to create an account. Be careful though,
• 1:55:40
  Speaker 2: you don't want to just do the web account. You
• 1:55:42
  Speaker 2: want to download discord and create an account that way.
• 1:55:46
  Speaker 2: So those are the things they should be in the
• 1:55:48
  Speaker 2: low bar as well, except for Badger At feed the
• 1:55:50
  Speaker 2: Badger dot com, I think we got another super chowl.
• 1:55:53
  Speaker 1: Yeah, I just got one, so let me just read
• 1:55:55
  Speaker 1: it and then I'll take us out. Lord of Swarm
• 1:55:59
  Speaker 1: TMM gives a super chat for twenty bucks. Thank you,
• 1:56:01
  Speaker 1: lords Warm, and says good to see you Badgers. It's
• 1:56:04
  Speaker 1: been forever since I found you live. Keep being awesome. Well,
• 1:56:08
  Speaker 1: thank you. I wonder where you subscribed, because I kind
• 1:56:10
  Speaker 1: of remember that name. Maybe you got unsubscribed by the algorithm.
• 1:56:14
  Speaker 2: But thanks for joining us the shorts, So maybe the
• 1:56:17
  Speaker 2: shorts are getting a little.
• 1:56:18
  Speaker 1: Bit older, the shorts are reaching people. Yeah, all right,
• 1:56:21
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• 1:56:41
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