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Press Pass | Jaguars HC Liam Coen & GM James Gladstone Host Pre-Draft Press Conference · The Jacksonville Jaguars Official Podcast Network

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  Speaker 1: Both of you.
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  Speaker 2: What's it been like going through this process kind.
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  Speaker 3: Of leading away for the first time. I mean she
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  Speaker 3: was a heo, she was the first.
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  Speaker 4: Time at old Man.
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  Speaker 5: What has this been like?
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  Speaker 3: Yeah, I'll start and kick it over to Liam. But
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  Speaker 3: at the end of the day, it's still familiar territory.
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  Speaker 3: You're talking football, and you know, my mind remains rooted
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  Speaker 3: and a lot of the same things that it always
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  Speaker 3: has been. And I think you all will remember this phrase,
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  Speaker 3: but focusing our intention on intangibly rich human beings and
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  Speaker 3: allow that to remain our north star and making it
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  Speaker 3: so that you know, it's very clear amongst our group
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  Speaker 3: that that's really what we're leaning into and having everybody
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  Speaker 3: embrace that and feel that it's been a joy. It's
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  Speaker 3: been fulfilling and really looking forward to allowing those discussions
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  Speaker 3: to become reality. And we're not far off from that.
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  Speaker 3: But just like the players that are included in this
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  Speaker 3: draft class, right their dream is to get drafted and
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  Speaker 3: for those guys, that's about to be reality. And it's
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  Speaker 3: been fun to have that be the case for us personally,
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  Speaker 3: to see our dreams become reality, and you know, working
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  Speaker 3: in tandem, it's it's been fulfilling. It's been a joy.
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  Speaker 6: One of the biggest issues with this team last year had.
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  Speaker 5: A lot of people's.
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  Speaker 1: Bonds, was a lot of toughness in both interior minds.
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  Speaker 7: You invested considerable capital and free agency helped reinforce that,
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  Speaker 7: and I'm just wondering if you feel like the draft
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  Speaker 7: is also another avenue to add reinforcements to that, because
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  Speaker 7: it seems like you could never have enough in terms
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  Speaker 7: of competition in those positions.
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  Speaker 3: Yeah, I'm glad you asked that because something that's been
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  Speaker 3: very clear to both Liam and I, and it's something
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  Speaker 3: that we both value innately, is physical and mental toughness.
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  Speaker 3: And I know that that probably was a parent and
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  Speaker 3: that just by default the offensive line and defensive line
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  Speaker 3: that breeds that sort of mentality in that type of play.
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  Speaker 3: We prioritized addressing offensive line through pro free agency, and
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  Speaker 3: I think we'll continue to do that throughout the draft.
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  Speaker 3: But I don't think we're limited at the fronts right
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  Speaker 3: That stuff should show up at all levels of our
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  Speaker 3: offensive and defensive operation, and clearly on special teams. That's
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  Speaker 3: always going to remain at the forefront. But those two
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  Speaker 3: elements in tandem is really a real combination that we covet,
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  Speaker 3: and I think you'll hear just about every time that
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  Speaker 3: Liam steps to a podium, he's going to mention some
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  Speaker 3: version of physical and mental toughness as really what he's
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  Speaker 3: hunting up.
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  Speaker 4: For.
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  Speaker 1: How bothers, it wasn't for Eatervie that on third and
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  Speaker 1: one last year Jaguars Patty Amber was barely over fifty.
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  Speaker 2: Yeah, I think that's something that ultimately you look at
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  Speaker 2: last year. I think in the NFL we were first
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  Speaker 2: in Tampa in short yardage, and although I'd love to
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  Speaker 2: say that we just you know, ran duo down everybody's throat,
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  Speaker 2: I can't say that there was some misdirection, jet sweeps, whatever,
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  Speaker 2: it was different ways of getting that yard. And ultimately, yes,
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  Speaker 2: you'd love to say, man, hey we got to just
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  Speaker 2: gain a yard. We should be able to do this
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  Speaker 2: with the most simple plays in football, But it just
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  Speaker 2: depends on how you're built and what those matchups look like, obviously,
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  Speaker 2: and it is on us as coaches to hopefully put
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  Speaker 2: those guys in better positions to be successful that way.
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  Speaker 5: James, can you take us through the decision not to
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  Speaker 5: do in person visits the strategy kind of behind not
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  Speaker 5: bringing prospects here.
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  Speaker 3: Yeah, I think there's a lot of layers to not
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  Speaker 3: doing those facility visits that you all are probably accustomed to,
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  Speaker 3: or those top thirty visits as they're phrased. But you know,
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  Speaker 3: it goes back a while for me and my experience.
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  Speaker 3: I think, you know, just think about, let's take it
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  Speaker 3: this direction, the implicit bias that can come to life
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  Speaker 3: this late in the process, the last player you might
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  Speaker 3: sit down with, and how that might differ from the
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  Speaker 3: first player you sit down with, knowing that it's closer
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  Speaker 3: to the decision that's upcoming. Addition to that, like, you know,
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  Speaker 3: so much of the work that's done in preparation for
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  Speaker 3: these decisions starts years in advance, and you know, the
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  Speaker 3: sourced intel from those who have lived with these individuals
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  Speaker 3: is likely to be more accurate than me sitting down
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  Speaker 3: with a prospect for a short period of time and
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  Speaker 3: attempting to dissect who that human being is. And so
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  Speaker 3: I don't know that I don't view myself as having
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  Speaker 3: this extreme superpower of deciphering the complexity of a person
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  Speaker 3: in an hour, right, I would probably say I can
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  Speaker 3: work that in tandem. But there are other mechanisms that
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  Speaker 3: we tend to lean into to help us determine whether
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  Speaker 3: or not a player is in fact a fit for us.
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  Speaker 3: More than just a singular touch point that would be
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  Speaker 3: a top thirty visit, We have a lot of additional
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  Speaker 3: mechanisms that we deploy that don't necessarily put us at
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  Speaker 3: risk for the rest of the world to know which
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  Speaker 3: direction we're heading as well, because so often those become
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  Speaker 3: public facing touch points, at which point you're sacrificing some
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  Speaker 3: version of strategy come draft day as well.
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  Speaker 4: That I'm just curious, and you're less than two months
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  Speaker 4: time here, James, how much have you been able to
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  Speaker 4: implement in terms of that strategy in terms of springing
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  Speaker 4: the Jars program here Jacksonville.
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  Speaker 3: Obviously, you know.
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  Speaker 4: You bring some of your friends from there into the
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  Speaker 4: front office here so far, but how much have you
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  Speaker 4: actually been able to implement in terms of that process itself.
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  Speaker 3: Yeah, there are some specific efficiencies that we've been able
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  Speaker 3: to sort of fold into the process, and in large
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  Speaker 3: part there's a good bit of information already at our
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  Speaker 3: disposal and a lot of internal knowledge that already exists
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  Speaker 3: that's really helpful, you know, having our scouting staff on
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  Speaker 3: site for the first time this week, all being under
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  Speaker 3: the same roof. It was really cool. We got a
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  Speaker 3: chance to sit down yesterday and chop through a large
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  Speaker 3: of the prospects and got a chance to share with
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  Speaker 3: them my impressions of day one with them. And so often,
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  Speaker 3: let's just set the stage. You get into a draft
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  Speaker 3: meeting and each person has a piece of paper or
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  Speaker 3: a noepick in front of them or their laptop, and
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  Speaker 3: they're referencing their reports that they've done on each of
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  Speaker 3: the prospects, looking down reading those reports out loud. Something
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  Speaker 3: I appreciate more than anything is when an evaluator or
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  Speaker 3: a scout treats those moments like you're at the water cooler,
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  Speaker 3: like you're just having a normal conversation as a as
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  Speaker 3: opposed to this boardroom meeting, and our group inherently did that.
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  Speaker 3: They made it just a natural conversation, and they didn't
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  Speaker 3: just revert to their notes, but rather what they already
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  Speaker 3: knew in their minds because they were so prepared for
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  Speaker 3: that moment on their own. So that was a really
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  Speaker 3: cool moment for me to see our scouting staff walk
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  Speaker 3: in the door as prepared as I could have ever
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  Speaker 3: hoped for those initial conversations, I used the phrase being
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  Speaker 3: a fighter not a fencer, right, instead of having to
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  Speaker 3: put on armor pick up a sword to fight, they
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  Speaker 3: simply just had to close their fist. They were ready
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  Speaker 3: for that moment. And I look forward to the rest
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  Speaker 3: of the conversations that we're gonna have here over the
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  Speaker 3: next nine days and see what else settles as the
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  Speaker 3: cement begins to harden.
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  Speaker 6: Fact, James, just the entire process of you being in
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  Speaker 6: la and all the scouting that you did and then
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  Speaker 6: to come here and see what Trent and Ethan and
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  Speaker 6: their staff have just kind of comparing and contrasting. How
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  Speaker 6: difficult was that And was there anything during that process
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  Speaker 6: that maybe really surprised you or perhaps you don't just
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  Speaker 6: tie you off guard.
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  Speaker 3: Yeah, I don't know that there were any surprises or
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  Speaker 3: anything catching me off guard. As much as it was.
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  Speaker 3: It's been very impressive the adaptability of that group to say, hey,
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  Speaker 3: here are the items that we're emphasizing and that we'll
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  Speaker 3: be prioritizing may look a little different than what you're
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  Speaker 3: used to, and being able to see them sort of
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  Speaker 3: pivot away from maybe things that they held at a
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  Speaker 3: premium in the past. And so that's been that flexibility
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  Speaker 3: has really stood out to me amongst the group.
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  Speaker 5: What's your comfort level in terms of talking trades and
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  Speaker 5: things like that. Do you like to have those discussions
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  Speaker 5: a few days higher to Thursday night or are you
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  Speaker 5: pretty comfortable even if it's on the clock being able
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  Speaker 5: to make that kind of move quickly.
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  Speaker 1: Yeah.
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  Speaker 3: I think adaptability is going to be key through that.
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  Speaker 3: It's never going to be done until you know it
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  Speaker 3: gets sent into the league. So we'll have as many
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  Speaker 3: conversations as people are willing to engage on. And I
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  Speaker 3: don't think that now versus on the clock is going
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  Speaker 3: to be anything that I would say isn't of interest.
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  Speaker 5: When do you like to have your board kind.
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  Speaker 3: Of final Yeah, right before we pick. I mean it's interesting,
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  Speaker 3: it's not so black and white, right. You can probably
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  Speaker 3: think about the decisions you make in a day, and
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  Speaker 3: especially when you have the chance to sleep on it,
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  Speaker 3: whether or not it's the right one or the wrong one.
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  Speaker 3: And we've gone through a ton of exercises over the
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  Speaker 3: last five weeks to where we sleep with decisions right
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  Speaker 3: and we say this is exactly what we're doing over
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  Speaker 3: the course of the draft. How do we feel about
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  Speaker 3: this outcome, and we wrestle with that, we sit with it,
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  Speaker 3: we reflect, and then we try a new one. And
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  Speaker 3: that's been fun because I know it's not something that
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  Speaker 3: the larger group has been used to doing, at least
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  Speaker 3: in that long of a runway, But for me, it's
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  Speaker 3: the way in which my mind works, and I've in
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  Speaker 3: the past experienced the moments when you send in a pick,
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  Speaker 3: you know when you press enter whether or not it
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  Speaker 3: was the right one for you, And that's what I've
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  Speaker 3: enjoyed doing over the last handful of weeks with our
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  Speaker 3: group and sort of treating it it like we just
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  Speaker 3: press center and trying to wrestle with whether or not
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  Speaker 3: that that felt the best or if it's exactly what
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  Speaker 3: we would have wanted to be the case. And so,
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  Speaker 3: just like any any player going out onto the grass
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  Speaker 3: in preparation for a Sunday, we actually want to treat
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  Speaker 3: these reps like real life, and so trying to create
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  Speaker 3: that as often as possible has been certainly enjoyable, but
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  Speaker 3: look forward to it actually bringing with it some positive
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  Speaker 3: results here soon.
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  Speaker 1: Over to that.
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  Speaker 6: Point, can you kind of map out what the next
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  Speaker 6: wee can have is for you guys from.
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  Speaker 3: A process standpoint, what kind of things would.
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  Speaker 2: You go through to try to be as prepared as
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  Speaker 2: you can be for.
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  Speaker 3: The actual raft? Yeah? I can so right now we're
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  Speaker 3: using the mornings with our scouting staff, afternoon with our
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  Speaker 3: coaching staff. We'll do that throughout the remainder of this
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  Speaker 3: week and then into next week. We got mock drafts
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  Speaker 3: that will just simulate at the beginning of the week
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  Speaker 3: before getting to a draft day.
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  Speaker 6: And when you when you go to the.
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  Speaker 2: Mock draft situation, what do you do in to pull
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  Speaker 2: as much information.
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  Speaker 1: As you can to to to have.
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  Speaker 4: That be as actors?
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  Speaker 3: I say that it's more operationally to make sure that
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  Speaker 3: uh all of our attack is functioning uh as much
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  Speaker 3: as it is n like actually having a m uh
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  Speaker 3: a draft to come off, so to speak.
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  Speaker 8: So, uh, James, I, I I kind of looked up
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  Speaker 8: my own version of intangibly rich right, good, right, Well,
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  Speaker 8: hopefully we we kind of.
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  Speaker 1: Got this right.
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  Speaker 3: So not only are our fans now intangibly R curious,
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  Speaker 3: so is our media groups. Yeah that's the TANGI.
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  Speaker 5: Uh well, really I at five at number five?
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  Speaker 4: Is it?
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  Speaker 5: And I ain't made the sound?
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  Speaker 1: Pease?
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  Speaker 3: Is it more? Obvious. Do you have to pay attention
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  Speaker 3: to the intangibles cause it kind of like.
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  Speaker 1: The indendals, some side of things that you don't see
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  Speaker 1: that aren't obvious at five.
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  Speaker 7: Isn't a little more obvious, especially if you're not in
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  Speaker 7: a market fort.
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  Speaker 3: Is it more obvious? I I would like to think
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  Speaker 3: it's pretty obvious, But uh, you know a lot of
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  Speaker 3: this it just requires discipline. Like for the most part,
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  Speaker 3: you become so intimate and understanding who these people are
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  Speaker 3: in the build up to those draft day decisions that
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  Speaker 3: by the end of it, you know what you're taking
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  Speaker 3: on and you have to make the decision as to
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  Speaker 3: whether or not you can accept that person for who
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  Speaker 3: they are. And the people that we will accept for
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  Speaker 3: who they are is an invite and select will be
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  Speaker 3: those that are intangibly rich and people. Again, I know
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  Speaker 3: I've been asked quite often like what does that actually mean?
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  Speaker 3: And I promise that whatever just came to your mind
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  Speaker 3: is what I'm thinking, Like it exists, It's in my
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  Speaker 3: mind as well as yours. But I was asked right
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  Speaker 3: off the jump physical and mental toughness, like that's a
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  Speaker 3: part of intangibly rich, and it's a big part of it,
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  Speaker 3: so those two elements will be top of mind. I mean,
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  Speaker 3: when you look at our draft day call sheet, the
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  Speaker 3: items that we're bucketing in that intangibly rich category are
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  Speaker 3: the largest brightest number and color on our call sheet,
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  Speaker 3: and it's because that's where we start at every point
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  Speaker 3: of player acquisition. That's where we start. Doesn't mean that
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  Speaker 3: it'll be exactly the order that we select in or
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  Speaker 3: pick or choose from, but it will be where we
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  Speaker 3: began every decision.
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  Speaker 1: When you when you look at the depth chart of
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  Speaker 1: this draft, like position, could you out wanted to get
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  Speaker 1: a couple of positions which you think it's deep.
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  Speaker 7: Enough where whether you draft the player early in the second.
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  Speaker 3: Or middle of the third or first round versus.
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  Speaker 1: Second where you you you think that you could still
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  Speaker 1: get a pretty dark, decent player without being a significant
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  Speaker 1: drop off.
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  Speaker 3: Yeah, you know quite Frankly, I think that every draft
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  Speaker 3: there ends up being players that are very good at
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  Speaker 3: all positions from start to finish. And I think that
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  Speaker 3: that probably doesn't come as a surprise when you look
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  Speaker 3: at the most recent drafts that I've been a part of,
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  Speaker 3: especially with those Day three selections and even those undrafted
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  Speaker 3: college free agents who in Los Angeles, had played a
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  Speaker 3: high volume of snaps and contributed in a significant way
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  Speaker 3: early in their rookie contract. So yeah, I think there
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  Speaker 3: are some public facing positions that everybody has a pretty
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  Speaker 3: good understanding that are deep in this year's draft. But
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  Speaker 3: I don't think there's a single position that we would
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  Speaker 3: label as being without talent, and all of them can
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  Speaker 3: produce somebody for us that would contribute it in a
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  Speaker 3: notable way fairly early in their rookie contract along the
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  Speaker 3: entirety of the draft.
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  Speaker 1: Credit work with Liam. What is your assessment of the
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  Speaker 1: receiving core of.
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  Speaker 5: This draft, of its talent terms of its viability as
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  Speaker 5: a did for your franchise.
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  Speaker 2: Yeah, I think there's some just good, sound, solid players
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  Speaker 2: at a few different spots where there's also some ball
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  Speaker 2: in hand athletes. There's also a couple of guys that
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  Speaker 2: can win fifty to fifty balls. There's some really good
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  Speaker 2: football players all throughout this draft at the position. I
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  Speaker 2: wouldn't say it's maybe as sparkling as some other drafts.
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  Speaker 2: Right where you do see, you know some of you know,
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  Speaker 2: there's a couple of good ones up there, and we
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  Speaker 2: feel good about some of the guys a little bit
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  Speaker 2: later on that we can contribute for us. Definitely a
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  Speaker 2: position that we'd be looking for.
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  Speaker 4: James, last time we talked to you at the quodium,
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  Speaker 4: you reference the defensive tackle, the edge rooms, and the
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  Speaker 4: idea of getting rookies in here, getting them on the
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  Speaker 4: grass early. So this may be a question more for
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  Speaker 4: coach camp than you, Liam, But what are you looking
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  Speaker 4: for when it comes to an edge or a defensive
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  Speaker 4: tackle player? A lot but made especially this last week
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  Speaker 4: nationally about is a player rugged enough to play the edge?
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  Speaker 4: What are traits that you and your staff look for
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  Speaker 4: at those positions?
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  Speaker 2: Yeah, first of all, mental and physically and mentally tough
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  Speaker 2: comes to mind. And guys that can set an edge
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  Speaker 2: in the run game, play long, don't have that doesn't
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  Speaker 2: mean they have to be six four two sixty, but
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  Speaker 2: can set an edge and play long and stout in
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  Speaker 2: the run game, while also maybe giving you a different
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  Speaker 2: version of a rush plan, right, a little bit of
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  Speaker 2: a different wave of rusher that can maybe come in
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  Speaker 2: and do some different things and some third downs, get
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  Speaker 2: back on track situations that can potentially burn an edge
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  Speaker 2: and be able to get off the edge and go
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  Speaker 2: a little bit For us so definitely something that we're
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  Speaker 2: looking for.
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  Speaker 3: Job Leam.
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  Speaker 8: You talked about leaning past a little bit before, just
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  Speaker 8: knowing how many draft picks you guys have, the dental
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  Speaker 8: spots bone drafting guys that add on to the rosters
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  Speaker 8: ex site. You know, like you guys are about to
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  Speaker 8: add the high number of young guys.
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  Speaker 3: It is exciting.
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  Speaker 2: I mean, like I mentioned last time, conversation we had
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  Speaker 2: with the staff and something that we don't want to
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  Speaker 2: fear whatsoever. And I think naturally as a coach you
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  Speaker 2: just go to a safe place of a veteran, which
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  Speaker 2: I completely respect and appreciate. But it's definitely something we're
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  Speaker 2: going to lean into. The guys should be excited about it.
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  Speaker 2: You know, you can continue to coach hard and and
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  Speaker 2: get the best out of these guys when they're freshly
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  Speaker 2: in the league and really want to do best. So
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  Speaker 2: we're excited about that factor.
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  Speaker 5: What is the thing you enjoyed the most things? The
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  Speaker 5: biggest suggestment you going through the process.
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  Speaker 7: Now as a head coach and probably a little bit
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  Speaker 7: more input than you had before.
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  Speaker 4: Run.
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  Speaker 2: Yeah, just you know, having a larger appreciation for every
• 17:22
  Speaker 2: position on the grass, including special team. You know, special teams.
• 17:26
  Speaker 2: When we're evaluating a wide out or a dB, a safety,
• 17:29
  Speaker 2: a corner, a back, or a tight end, Well, what
• 17:32
  Speaker 2: can his special teams contribution be as well? That's not
• 17:36
  Speaker 2: something I ever really had to go to that place,
• 17:39
  Speaker 2: And so that's been exciting to learn more about from James,
• 17:44
  Speaker 2: from the other coaches, seeing their vision for these players.
• 17:47
  Speaker 2: And that's been a huge learning curve for me and
• 17:50
  Speaker 2: experience where you're normally just hey, offense, every time you
• 17:54
  Speaker 2: watch an offensive player, defensive players pop and your eyes
• 17:58
  Speaker 2: start to go to those players that pop. Well, now
• 18:00
  Speaker 2: it's truly evaluating, hey, how does this player fit into
• 18:04
  Speaker 2: our play our roster right now? Where can we see
• 18:08
  Speaker 2: them playing on each down? In distance packages? Things like
• 18:12
  Speaker 2: that where you start to try to tweak your thinking
• 18:14
  Speaker 2: a little bit.
• 18:15
  Speaker 9: Change, do you know yourself think about the first pick setting.
• 18:18
  Speaker 3: The tone for the entire tenure of your regime and
• 18:23
  Speaker 3: how that you guess the really the first pick kind
• 18:27
  Speaker 3: of does that? I think naturally that's absolutely where your
• 18:30
  Speaker 3: mind goes. And we've had discussions on that subject a
• 18:34
  Speaker 3: number of times, and UH certainly feel really good about
• 18:38
  Speaker 3: the pot of players right now that we're discussing and uh,
• 18:41
  Speaker 3: and that that would align with all the messages that
• 18:45
  Speaker 3: we would like to send to the locker room, to
• 18:48
  Speaker 3: our fan base, to the greater football landscape about who
• 18:53
  Speaker 3: the Jacksonville Jaguars are going to be moving forward.
• 18:56
  Speaker 5: Did you guys do a local product?
• 18:58
  Speaker 3: No, we did not.
• 18:59
  Speaker 5: Is that philosophy or is that because maybe just the
• 19:03
  Speaker 5: local schools didn't have maybe what you were looking for?
• 19:06
  Speaker 1: Yeah?
• 19:06
  Speaker 3: I think in a similar breath, is the top thirty visits.
• 19:09
  Speaker 3: It's a familiar territory for me to not participate in that,
• 19:13
  Speaker 3: and I think it was certainly based off where we
• 19:17
  Speaker 3: were at this being the first cycle that we're working together,
• 19:20
  Speaker 3: Spending that energy in a different way made sense. It
• 19:24
  Speaker 3: seems like more and.
• 19:24
  Speaker 8: More top pics slightly or not testing during off season
• 19:27
  Speaker 8: alight testing.
• 19:28
  Speaker 1: How do you guys adjusted to get the full picture
• 19:30
  Speaker 1: of a player when you maybe.
• 19:31
  Speaker 3: Don't have those numbers. Yeah, I think so often. That's
• 19:34
  Speaker 3: a great question. By the way, I think many people
• 19:37
  Speaker 3: are leaning in a different direction than just strictly those
• 19:41
  Speaker 3: testing and measurement marks. Certainly it's helpful when you can
• 19:43
  Speaker 3: compare apples to apples from one player to the next.
• 19:46
  Speaker 3: But you know, data tracking for us and on field
• 19:49
  Speaker 3: speeds is going to weigh much differently than a forty
• 19:53
  Speaker 3: yard dash your time for.
• 19:54
  Speaker 4: Two or three more in terms of who you have
• 19:56
  Speaker 4: in the locker room right now, this is where you
• 19:58
  Speaker 4: coach when it comes to Ryan Thomas.
• 20:00
  Speaker 5: Junior a number one.
• 20:02
  Speaker 4: Who do you say, confidently is that number two and
• 20:04
  Speaker 4: three that could take the pressure off of Ry Thomas Junior?
• 20:07
  Speaker 3: Yeah?
• 20:07
  Speaker 2: I think you know we're going to spread the ball
• 20:09
  Speaker 2: out hopefully equally. That was the nice thing about being
• 20:12
  Speaker 2: last year with Tampa and we had to play a
• 20:14
  Speaker 2: lot of different players in different personnel groupings. I think
• 20:18
  Speaker 2: you look just naturally right now at Parker Washington and
• 20:21
  Speaker 2: Dianmi Brown at the receiver positions and then saying that, hey,
• 20:25
  Speaker 2: Brenton Strange hopefully continues to ascend. How do we use
• 20:28
  Speaker 2: our two running backs to be able to supplement some
• 20:31
  Speaker 2: of that usage right and be able to get more
• 20:33
  Speaker 2: people involved in the game, especially early on, so that
• 20:37
  Speaker 2: defenses can't just cloud you know, BT and be all
• 20:41
  Speaker 2: over him. That we do have other guys that can
• 20:43
  Speaker 2: go win and be explosive with the ball in their
• 20:45
  Speaker 2: hands and ultimately share that wealth and share that playmaking ability.
• 20:51
  Speaker 2: So that once the ball is snapped for the beginning
• 20:54
  Speaker 2: of the game and within the first quarter, if you
• 20:56
  Speaker 2: haven't touched the ball, it's a hard one to get
• 20:59
  Speaker 2: continue to get through. So how do we get all
• 21:01
  Speaker 2: of our playmakers a touch early on to get them
• 21:05
  Speaker 2: going and get them involved in the game. And those
• 21:07
  Speaker 2: guys that I just mentioned right now are guys that
• 21:10
  Speaker 2: we're gonna spotlight when you're going off.
• 21:13
  Speaker 9: Your draft board, and you have teams that will not
• 21:16
  Speaker 9: take guys simply because they've been character concerned or off
• 21:19
  Speaker 9: the field issues. When you're doing your draft board, is
• 21:21
  Speaker 9: there's something that you're not when you're looking at you're
• 21:25
  Speaker 9: taking these guys off the board you.
• 21:26
  Speaker 3: D regardless, Oh yeah, there are quite a few things.
• 21:29
  Speaker 3: I think at the end of the day, we focus
• 21:33
  Speaker 3: the majority of our attentions on who it is that
• 21:36
  Speaker 3: we're really interested, who fits the profile for UH, really
• 21:40
  Speaker 3: what we want to invite into this environment. And if
• 21:42
  Speaker 3: you're not intangibly rich, it's gonna it's gonna be a
• 21:44
  Speaker 3: hard time for uh for that person to really mesh here.
• 21:47
  Speaker 3: And UH, you know, I think those that will thrive
• 21:50
  Speaker 3: in the environment that we create and cultivate UH are
• 21:54
  Speaker 3: going to be people that fit the mold for what
• 21:57
  Speaker 3: we've talked about to date, and that is all the
• 22:00
  Speaker 3: physical and mental toughness attributes. And if you don't meet
• 22:03
  Speaker 3: those thresholds that we've set, it's it's gonna be something
• 22:07
  Speaker 3: that we sort of go in a different direction from.
• 22:10
  Speaker 8: You're when you're talking about trying to get to an
• 22:12
  Speaker 8: Angulia ration.
• 22:13
  Speaker 4: You don't have top thirty business and you're.
• 22:14
  Speaker 6: Not necessarily on site or proda.
• 22:17
  Speaker 3: Where's the other.
• 22:18
  Speaker 8: Mechanisms you touched on in.
• 22:20
  Speaker 1: Getting that information?
• 22:22
  Speaker 3: Yeah, some of those we like to keep sort of
• 22:24
  Speaker 3: in house in private, just because we feel it's a
• 22:26
  Speaker 3: version of a competitive advantage. While at the same time,
• 22:29
  Speaker 3: you can look towards the traditional metrics and in ways
• 22:32
  Speaker 3: about going to understand who a person is from an
• 22:36
  Speaker 3: intangible standpoint, and that is rooted in the film evaluation
• 22:39
  Speaker 3: and some of the things that aren't necessarily related to
• 22:42
  Speaker 3: a physical quality. And then you get into the sourced
• 22:45
  Speaker 3: information from a player's past, right whether it's college, campus,
• 22:48
  Speaker 3: a hometown, et cetera. So all those things begin to
• 22:52
  Speaker 3: get weighted and surface sort of our thresholds for whether
• 22:57
  Speaker 3: or not they're somebody we feel like fits our mold.
• 22:59
  Speaker 6: Have you had to teach that.
• 23:00
  Speaker 3: To the er staff of how that Yeah, in terms
• 23:05
  Speaker 3: of our current staff, they're already going down the traditional
• 23:10
  Speaker 3: methods of bringing that stuff to life, and then in
• 23:13
  Speaker 3: terms of decision making, leveraging that in a way that
• 23:16
  Speaker 3: may not be uh sort of the traditional model for
• 23:20
  Speaker 3: what the Jaguars have seen in the past, but at
• 23:22
  Speaker 3: the end of the day, it doesn't necessarily require any
• 23:25
  Speaker 3: additional education, but will into the future as we have
• 23:29
  Speaker 3: full cycles to work with as a as a full
• 23:31
  Speaker 3: scouting staff.
• 23:34
  Speaker 7: Not to be like a smart ass, but in tangibly rich.
• 23:37
  Speaker 7: Was that a phrase you guys used it the brands
• 23:39
  Speaker 7: or did you kind of bring.
• 23:40
  Speaker 3: That over or it's not it's not. Yeah, I don't
• 23:46
  Speaker 3: know when did I say it for the first time? Yeah,
• 23:54
  Speaker 3: I think it just it came. Look so much of
• 23:57
  Speaker 3: that stuff, it really does. It resonates. It's for for
• 24:00
  Speaker 3: both Liam and I. But we've got a lot of spinoffs.
• 24:06
  Speaker 3: We've got a lot of spinoffs. But that yes, hey
• 24:13
  Speaker 3: you got to drop that one in there or not,
• 24:15
  Speaker 3: But no, I think naturally that is what both Liam
• 24:18
  Speaker 3: and I are built on, and so we gravitate towards
• 24:23
  Speaker 3: those types of people, and so I don't know that
• 24:27
  Speaker 3: it was anything other than just what surfaced at the moment,
• 24:31
  Speaker 3: I guess at my first press conference, But it definitely
• 24:36
  Speaker 3: is something I want to hang on to, and I'm
• 24:39
  Speaker 3: not ready to release that yet because I just I
• 24:41
  Speaker 3: keep saying it at every chance I get right. But
• 24:43
  Speaker 3: it I think, in some way, shape or form, it
• 24:46
  Speaker 3: paints a picture for what it is that we're hunting
• 24:49
  Speaker 3: up and pay it to your guys, Oh, that doesn't
• 24:54
  Speaker 3: take much because most most evaluations generally include some version
• 25:02
  Speaker 3: of physical qualities and intangible qualities already rooted in what
• 25:07
  Speaker 3: you're measuring, So it didn't take much time for them
• 25:11
  Speaker 3: to understand, Oh, this is the bucket that we're leaning
• 25:13
  Speaker 3: into as a as a driver for our decisions. Yeah, John,
• 25:19
  Speaker 3: thank you for your time.