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The Wicks Family goes to Disneyland! | Part 1 of The Fifth Anniversary Special · The Wholehearted Enneagram Podcast

• 0:03
  SPEAKER_01: Hi, I'm Amy Wicks, a Jesus and Enneagram enthusiast.
• 0:07
  SPEAKER_01: As a wife, mom of three humans, and a fur baby, I get it.
• 0:12
  SPEAKER_01: Juggling entrepreneurship in a family is challenging, but I believe the Lord does want your work to be enjoyable.
• 0:20
  SPEAKER_01: As an Enneagram type 7, I am all about the fun factor.
• 0:24
  SPEAKER_01: And this podcast is here to help you put the joy back into working mom life.
• 0:29
  SPEAKER_01: So you can see 1 Timothy 6.17 come to pass in your own thing.
• 0:35
  SPEAKER_01: It's a verse that says that God has given us all things to enjoy.
• 0:39
  SPEAKER_01: And all, friends, it means all.
• 0:42
  SPEAKER_01: Motherhood, work from home life, or work out of the home life.
• 0:46
  SPEAKER_01: With the Lord's help, there's truly a way to feel calm, balance, joy, clarity, and peace in any arena of life.
• 0:56
  SPEAKER_01: Welcome to the Simply Wholehearted Podcast, where you can expect solo-style and interview-style episodes that are full of faith-based concepts, simple ideas, Enneagram insights, alongside practical tips to help you put that smile back on your face when it comes to doing life with Jesus.
• 1:16
  SPEAKER_01: Now get your headphones and head to that big pile of dishes in the sink, or maybe that bathroom that needed cleaning two weeks ago.
• 1:26
  SPEAKER_01: And let's get to learning together.
• 1:46
  SPEAKER_01: As I've approached the five-year mark of the Simply Wholehearted podcast, I've been dreaming about what to do to celebrate.
• 1:53
  SPEAKER_01: And as I dreamed, I began to realize that I have lots of things to say and a lot of deep feelings about celebration, but more on that later.
• 2:02
  SPEAKER_01: Nyla Weeb, my podcast manager, and I tossed around big names to invite, like singer, songwriter Amy Grant, my all-time favorite fiction author Jan Karen, and anyone that I've ever thought that would be so amazing to have as a guest.
• 2:19
  SPEAKER_01: But I kept coming back to one of Nila's other ideas, and that was to have my family on an episode.
• 2:27
  SPEAKER_01: Better yet, have them on the episode to talk about our first family trip to Disneyland that was scheduled to happen right before the special anniversary.
• 2:37
  SPEAKER_01: Now, first of all, it's important for you to know this is not going to be your typical episode.
• 2:43
  SPEAKER_01: It's far less polished, formal, messy, loud, imperfect, and likely very relatable to your own motherhood.
• 2:51
  SPEAKER_01: And I'm guessing, or at least maybe I'm hoping, I am not the only one whose kids get crazy when you don't want them to, right?
• 3:00
  SPEAKER_01: You know, you aren't wishing for them to be crazy.
• 3:03
  SPEAKER_01: You want them to behave, but that's not really what happened.
• 3:07
  SPEAKER_01: But I do want you to know this out of the norm episode is very special to me.
• 3:12
  SPEAKER_01: And I hope that you will find it humorous, entertaining, and celebratory.
• 3:17
  SPEAKER_01: Because, my dear wholehearted friend, if it wasn't for you, I would not have a reason to podcast or to show up week after week in the last five years.
• 3:27
  SPEAKER_01: Goodness, five years?
• 3:30
  SPEAKER_01: I really am ecstatic that I get to do this work and have these conversations and create space for this community.
• 3:37
  SPEAKER_01: Thank you, thank you, thank you from the bottom of my heart.
• 3:41
  SPEAKER_01: I really do hope that you'll appreciate this authentic behind-the-scenes look of my family.
• 3:47
  SPEAKER_01: Now, one of the gifts I hope that you'll receive from this episode is to experience the reality of using the Enneagram with your family.
• 3:55
  SPEAKER_01: You will hear everything from a fellow Enneagram enthusiast who enjoys talking about it as much as I do, to the very reluctant Enneagram family member who just lets me talk about it because I like to talk about it.
• 4:08
  SPEAKER_01: Also, only one of my teenagers is 100% about their Enneagram type, and you'll hear more from her in future episodes.
• 4:16
  SPEAKER_01: My other two kids are still learning about their motivations, and per usual, my boy, Miles, well, he is less self-aware than the girls were at his age.
• 4:26
  SPEAKER_01: Now, how about you?
• 4:27
  SPEAKER_01: Do you have reluctant Enneagram folks in your home or within your family?
• 4:32
  SPEAKER_01: Here's one quick disclaimer before you continue listening.
• 4:36
  SPEAKER_01: If you don't like giggles, this episode is not, and I mean it is not for you.
• 4:42
  SPEAKER_01: You have been warned, and there are many, and I mean many, many giggles in this episode.
• 4:48
  SPEAKER_01: Uh, mostly from my kiddos, but not just from my kiddos.
• 4:52
  SPEAKER_01: For those of you who don't mind the giggles, we kept in some short bloopers at the end.
• 4:58
  SPEAKER_01: I'm also going to share more about my thoughts on celebration and my wrestling as this whole recording was happening and taking place.
• 5:07
  SPEAKER_01: But before we begin, here are a couple of Enneagram thoughts to look for in this episode.
• 5:13
  SPEAKER_01: As you'll hear, my daughter Haiti says she's an Enneagram 8, and she thought that she would struggle with appreciating the moment while she was at Disneyland.
• 5:23
  SPEAKER_01: Now, this is typical of an 8 because they do tend to think about what's next, and they can get tripped up in thinking contentment lies elsewhere.
• 5:33
  SPEAKER_01: And then you'll notice my son Miles.
• 5:35
  SPEAKER_01: Well, he is very silly, loud, and he is hilarious.
• 5:39
  SPEAKER_01: We have a hunch that he might be a three, but we are going to let him determine that for himself.
• 5:45
  SPEAKER_01: But if that is true, the attributes of a three are common in that they are driven by a desire to be noticed and well-liked by others.
• 5:55
  SPEAKER_01: And often he and I do have heart-to-heart conversations, and I do hear a thread or theme pointing to his hope to be popular and liked by everyone.
• 6:05
  SPEAKER_01: Also, Paige, my oldest, who is a fellow seven, but with a different wing than me, she is very in tune about how her personality shapes her expectations for this much longed-for and awaited family trip to Disneyland.
• 6:20
  SPEAKER_01: I think you're going to appreciate her candid wrestling and her personality insight.
• 6:24
  SPEAKER_01: It's really fun to see that in a young person.
• 6:27
  SPEAKER_01: All right, friend, you have been warned and prepped, and I'll be so curious to know what you think once you've gotten to be a fly on the wall with my family.
• 6:39
  SPEAKER_01: So I have my family here to do a special conversation in honor of the fifth anniversary of the Simply Wholehearted Podcast.
• 6:49
  SPEAKER_01: Now, they're here, not all uh willingly, um, some of them under protest with faces and um half asleep and eye rolls.
• 7:01
  SPEAKER_01: But I know that it would be a really special memory maker.
• 7:06
  SPEAKER_01: And if no one else enjoys this conversation, I am going to enjoy this conversation.
• 7:11
  SPEAKER_01: So we thought we'd start out by everyone getting to introduce themselves and then we're going to focus on the fact that we are doing a really special family vacation.
• 7:22
  SPEAKER_01: We're recording this part before we take our big adventure.
• 7:28
  SPEAKER_01: We're kind of partway through our adventure, but then before a really big adventure, and I'll talk about that in a minute.
• 7:34
  SPEAKER_01: But but I just thought it would be a fun study as well to hear everybody's thoughts as we prepare for this fun day at Disney.
• 7:46
  SPEAKER_01: Now, this has been something we've talked about for a long time.
• 7:48
  SPEAKER_01: I'm gonna let them take over.
• 7:50
  SPEAKER_01: Some of them know their Enneagram types, and I'll be talking more about that.
• 7:56
  SPEAKER_01: And that will be part of the fun of the conversation.
• 8:06
  SPEAKER_02: What do I do?
• 8:07
  SPEAKER_01: Why don't you start by introducing yourself if you know your Enneagram type?
• 8:12
  SPEAKER_01: And we'll go from there.
• 8:13
  SPEAKER_02: I believe I'm an Enneagram seven.
• 8:16
  SPEAKER_02: This is Paige.
• 8:17
  SPEAKER_02: And my experience has been through reading books that my mom has introduced me to, um, by taking like quizzes and then also talking through um and relating with some of the things because I believe she's also a seven, and so her and I talk about different like um core fears and beliefs and motivations that we both have, and then just pieced together from that.
• 8:42
  SPEAKER_02: So yeah, that's my experience.
• 8:47
  SPEAKER_00: Spencer, um, Amy's husband.
• 8:49
  SPEAKER_00: I believe I'm an Enneagram 9.
• 8:53
  SPEAKER_00: My experience with the Enneagram is it's very frequently talked about in the home, and so we discuss a lot of dynamics in our household, child to parent dynamics, and um our core fears and and motivations.
• 9:10
  SPEAKER_00: Learning every day.
• 9:12
  SPEAKER_02: Um, I'm Haiti, and I think I'm an eight.
• 9:16
  SPEAKER_02: Yeah, I kinda just hear my mom talk about the Enneagram a lot, so I'm not super interested in the Enneagram, but I'll listen if she wants to talk about it.
• 9:27
  SPEAKER_01: That was good.
• 9:28
  SPEAKER_02: So I kind of just will listen to what my mom says about it.
• 9:32
  SPEAKER_02: But we've come to the conclusion that I think I'm an eight.
• 9:36
  SPEAKER_01: Okay, so Miles, you don't know what number you are.
• 9:42
  SPEAKER_01: You don't know, yes.
• 9:44
  SPEAKER_01: So we've we've had some conversations about it.
• 9:46
  SPEAKER_01: You've asked me to tell you, and what do I say?
• 9:49
  SPEAKER_01: No.
• 9:51
  SPEAKER_01: And what do I follow up my no answer with usually?
• 9:56
  SPEAKER_03: I don't know.
• 9:58
  SPEAKER_02: Oh, I should know when I'm older.
• 10:01
  SPEAKER_02: Uh I think I think I'm uh eight.
• 10:04
  SPEAKER_02: What hate is?
• 10:05
  SPEAKER_02: Eight.
• 10:06
  SPEAKER_02: Okay.
• 10:07
  SPEAKER_02: Hello, my name is Myos.
• 10:12
  SPEAKER_02: And I don't know what thing I hear in.
• 10:17
  SPEAKER_02: I think I'm a sleep.
• 10:19
  SPEAKER_02: My memory will tell me that.
• 10:22
  SPEAKER_02: But that's what I think I am.
• 10:26
  SPEAKER_01: Yeah, one of the things that we've talked about is that sometimes we have conversations that I say later on that help me understand you better.
• 10:35
  SPEAKER_01: So I asked things maybe about school, things about what's really important to you about what people think of you.
• 10:46
  SPEAKER_01: So tell us a little bit what's what you want people to think of you at school.
• 10:51
  SPEAKER_02: Uh oh, I don't I want people to think I'm cool and good at working.
• 11:00
  SPEAKER_02: So yeah.
• 11:01
  SPEAKER_01: Actually, they'll eat the cool.
• 11:04
  SPEAKER_01: But yeah.
• 11:05
  SPEAKER_01: You do want them to think what?
• 11:07
  SPEAKER_01: I'm good at working.
• 11:09
  SPEAKER_02: So diligent?
• 11:10
  SPEAKER_01: Yeah, do it.
• 11:11
  SPEAKER_01: Okay, so this winter after Christmas, mom and dad had a fun little scavenger hunt.
• 11:20
  SPEAKER_01: And at the end of the scavenger hunt, there was a couple of tickets, tickets to Disneyland.
• 11:30
  SPEAKER_01: And there was a lot of excitement.
• 11:31
  SPEAKER_01: But what I wanted you to share is kind of your thoughts about the surprise when you found out and some of your anticipation going forward.
• 11:41
  SPEAKER_02: When I saw the ticket in the envelope, I was I was just seriously overwhelmed.
• 11:46
  SPEAKER_02: Like I was very surprised because it's been something I've always wanted to do.
• 11:50
  SPEAKER_02: And I was very excited to be able to get to do this and experience it as a teenager or as a kid, I don't know.
• 12:00
  SPEAKER_02: But um, and and just going into um we had like three weeks left until we're gonna go like the anticipation for me at least is half of the that's like part of the experience is just imagining and dreaming of like how awesome and fun it's gonna be.
• 12:20
  SPEAKER_02: So um yeah, so I'm like the excitement and anticipation is part of the experience, and I always look forward to like even though it's agonizing sometimes, I I'm always like it gives me chance to imagine and dream about what the future of excitement holds.
• 12:42
  SPEAKER_02: So this is Haiti, and when I found out that we were going to Disneyland, I could not believe it, because I've been wanting to go for a long time.
• 12:53
  SPEAKER_02: Uh and we a few years ago we were going to go, but then we couldn't go it because it just wasn't gonna work out.
• 13:01
  SPEAKER_02: So um, I've been just really looking forward to getting to go because well, first we had started watching lots of videos on YouTube um about doing to Disneyland.
• 13:15
  SPEAKER_02: And so um we had already kept asking, like, hey, we should go to Disneyland.
• 13:20
  SPEAKER_02: Um and so now that we actually get to go, I'm just always thinking of like all the things that we can do there and all the fun stuff.
• 13:29
  SPEAKER_02: So I'm miles.
• 13:32
  SPEAKER_02: And when I first found out that we got the ticket, I uh uh just was confused and I I didn't know what to do.
• 13:43
  SPEAKER_02: So I sit there uh really confused so at the end Yes I was very excited.
• 13:52
  unknown: Why were you confused?
• 13:54
  SPEAKER_02: Because because I don't know because because the girls opened it and I was just like like confused by like speechless.
• 14:08
  SPEAKER_02: Okay, so you were speeching for a different Yes, speechless but like but like confused at some time.
• 14:15
  SPEAKER_02: Like I knew it was Disneyland, but I was like, wait.
• 14:18
  SPEAKER_01: How are we gonna get to Disneyland?
• 14:21
  SPEAKER_01: Yeah.
• 14:22
  SPEAKER_01: So Spencer, I know you and I had talked about this a long time, and there was maybe a little bit of hesitation.
• 14:29
  SPEAKER_01: Obviously, taking a trip like this is an investment, but maybe there's been some other hesitation.
• 14:35
  SPEAKER_01: So, what's some of your thought in going going to Disneyland, some of it from your perspective that I think has to do maybe a little bit with your personality type?
• 14:45
  SPEAKER_00: Yeah, well, I am would consider myself somewhat of a nonconformist, and so the fact that every American family wants to do Disney makes me not want to do Disney.
• 14:56
  SPEAKER_00: So uh there wasn't a huge desire.
• 14:58
  SPEAKER_00: It wasn't a big thing that we did as a child when I was growing up, so it didn't have a lot of um sentimental value um in that regard, but um I knew that it would be a really great memory for our family, and so I think it was worth the investment.
• 15:12
  SPEAKER_00: And we tried a couple years ago, um, and due to COVID, we just weren't able to make it, but um, we felt like this was the good year to do it, and um yeah, I'm really excited about it.
• 15:24
  SPEAKER_01: Okay, so we're going to do two days this week.
• 15:27
  SPEAKER_01: We get a day in between because we want to pace ourselves.
• 15:30
  SPEAKER_01: The first day we're gonna do California Adventure, Disney California Adventure, and then we have a day break, and then we're doing Disneyland.
• 15:37
  SPEAKER_01: So we're going to have a fun recap on Friday after we get to have our time at the park and share a little bit about experience, what it looked like to make decisions together, how each of us maybe approached it.
• 15:51
  SPEAKER_01: But leading up to it is we're anticipating what are some of the things that you're excited about in the experience, whether it be the ride, the food, or it's all about this for you or all about that for you.
• 16:03
  SPEAKER_01: Just a little bit of picture of of how you're anticipating your time.
• 16:08
  SPEAKER_02: This is Paige.
• 16:09
  SPEAKER_02: I would say I'm excited for the I'm excited for the overall experience of it all.
• 16:16
  SPEAKER_02: Just being in Disneyland or a Disney California adventure just in general, just like it literally just so magical.
• 16:23
  SPEAKER_02: And um watching videos and seeing pictures of people and hearing stories of people enjoying a such magical place is just like it, you know, it's immersive in like I I would say the rides and just being with my family too in general, there will just be exciting, even if there's like long lines and stuff.
• 16:46
  SPEAKER_02: It's just the experience and being in that place, I would say.
• 16:50
  SPEAKER_02: Um I'm really excited to ride a lot of the rides that I've been wanting to ride for a long time.
• 16:56
  SPEAKER_02: Because we went when we were little, but obviously that doesn't count because I was one.
• 17:02
  SPEAKER_02: Um, but I'm really excited to ride some of the more iconic rides like the Price of the Caribbean, the Jungle Cruise, Indiana Jones, some of those good rides, and then also California Venture.
• 17:14
  SPEAKER_02: I'm really excited for some of the new um the Avengers campus that they have.
• 17:19
  SPEAKER_02: Even though that one's newer, I've still been wanting to do that one ever since it opened, which wasn't too long ago, but it was around the time when we were going to go, but didn't end up going.
• 17:29
  SPEAKER_02: So yeah.
• 17:33
  SPEAKER_02: This is page again, but I would also say the um saving up for um merchandise, like special things I can save, um, I can take home and um just help me to further remember this awesome trip that we're gonna have.
• 17:52
  SPEAKER_02: I'm very excited because I gotta do tons of good rides, and as you know, this is miles.
• 18:01
  SPEAKER_02: Um I'm looking forward is the when you owing when you first thought of a ride.
• 18:15
  SPEAKER_02: When you first started doing that, what do you think of Star Wars Land like what the first thing I thought of was the Indiana Jones and Parts of the Caribbean.
• 18:24
  SPEAKER_02: I'm really excited about the shops, the tiki room.
• 18:29
  SPEAKER_02: So yeah.
• 18:37
  SPEAKER_00: So just spending making a good memory for their family.
• 18:41
  SPEAKER_00: And there are a couple rides that I'm looking forward to.
• 18:44
  SPEAKER_00: Um Amy and I had our one of our first official dates at Disneyland, and so uh want to revisit some of those places and eat some of the foods and ride some of the rides.
• 18:57
  SPEAKER_01: Okay, last question.
• 18:58
  SPEAKER_01: You guys have indulged me.
• 18:59
  SPEAKER_01: I know you're holding it in, but I'm curious to know what you anticipate could be challenging for the five of us at Disneyland.
• 19:11
  SPEAKER_01: It could be one word, it doesn't have to be a long thing, but what what do you envision making decisions could look like, or what would be the biggest obstacle in our time together?
• 19:24
  SPEAKER_02: This is hate.
• 19:25
  SPEAKER_02: Um, I think we all have lots of our own opinions, but um, some of us are not scared to share them, some of us are like me.
• 19:37
  SPEAKER_01: You're not scared to share your opinion.
• 19:39
  SPEAKER_02: No.
• 19:41
  SPEAKER_03: No, who's not afraid to share their opinion?
• 19:43
  SPEAKER_02: Why are you laughing?
• 19:45
  SPEAKER_02: That's what I said.
• 19:46
  SPEAKER_02: I said me.
• 19:49
  SPEAKER_02: I'm an eight.
• 19:50
  SPEAKER_02: Thank you very much.
• 19:51
  SPEAKER_02: All right, I'm not Elvis Presley, you're not allowed to put this in.
• 19:56
  SPEAKER_02: Um, we all have our own opinions, and I think for a lot of us it'll be what we want to do first and some of the rides that are more important to others, because some rides like I don't know, maybe one of you guys want to do really want to do the teacups.
• 20:12
  SPEAKER_02: That's something that a few of us really care not to do.
• 20:15
  SPEAKER_02: And so I think there will be a few times where we'll split up to solve that issue.
• 20:24
  SPEAKER_02: Um, this is Paige.
• 20:25
  SPEAKER_02: Um, I would say personally as a seven, um, is not being able to do it all, to not be able to get it all done, because I mean we're only there for a day just right now, but like on this trip.
• 20:38
  SPEAKER_02: But um, yeah, I would say that's just um uh sincere fear of mine is uh not being able to do an experience at all.
• 20:47
  SPEAKER_02: So I'll probably try to cram everything in at the same time.
• 20:52
  SPEAKER_02: For me, I need to enjoy every minute of it.
• 20:55
  SPEAKER_02: Yes, not take everything for granted.
• 21:03
  SPEAKER_01: Uh can you repeat the question?
• 21:06
  SPEAKER_01: Yeah.
• 21:06
  SPEAKER_01: So do you anticipate there being any problems at this moment?
• 21:15
  SPEAKER_01: Good.
• 21:16
  SPEAKER_01: I'm gonna have to pay Nyla a hundred dollars to edit this.
• 21:19
  SPEAKER_02: And that's out of Disney.
• 21:21
  SPEAKER_01: That's out of the Disney fund.
• 21:22
  SPEAKER_02: Hey Nyla.
• 21:27
  SPEAKER_01: It's gonna be the most expensive episode ever.
• 21:30
  SPEAKER_01: Okay.
• 21:31
  SPEAKER_01: So do you is there any if there's nothing, you don't have to say anything, but is there anything that you anticipate being a struggle whether it comes to making decisions as a family the next couple days?
• 21:42
  SPEAKER_02: This is and uh no.
• 21:45
  SPEAKER_02: I doesn't have anything.
• 21:48
  SPEAKER_02: You're not worried about it.
• 21:49
  SPEAKER_03: No.
• 21:51
  SPEAKER_00: Oh man, what am I worried about?
• 21:53
  SPEAKER_00: I'm worried about the assertiveness of every one of our children trying to go in all by Different directions.
• 22:01
  SPEAKER_02: So having empty belly.
• 22:03
  SPEAKER_00: So trying to come to a family agreement might be a bit of a challenge tomorrow morning.
• 22:07
  SPEAKER_02: Real quickly to expand on this is page, but to expand on what Hades was saying about making sure we savor every moment.
• 22:13
  SPEAKER_02: I also feel like as a seven, I tend to want to rush the moment or move on to the next thing.
• 22:19
  SPEAKER_02: And I've been trying to practice making sure I enjoy every second of it and um not wishing that minute or hour away.
• 22:27
  SPEAKER_02: So I also feel like that could be a problem, but also a great way to practice just savoring every single moment.
• 22:43
  SPEAKER_02: I'll put mine in the link in the description of my Hello, I'm Miles, and I don't know what number I am.
• 22:56
  SPEAKER_02: He's either a one, two, or zero! Or ten.
• 23:10
  SPEAKER_01: So friend, what did you think?
• 23:12
  SPEAKER_01: To be honest, I struggle with milestone celebrations.
• 23:16
  SPEAKER_01: Birthdays, anniversaries, notable moments.
• 23:19
  SPEAKER_01: I find myself experiencing a little bit of anxiety when I stare them down in anticipation.
• 23:26
  SPEAKER_01: I wasn't sure if I could really do anything well enough or good enough to celebrate five years of this podcast.
• 23:34
  SPEAKER_01: Celebration is vulnerable.
• 23:36
  SPEAKER_01: It opens me up to longing, the desire deep inside to be seen, loved, and known.
• 23:42
  SPEAKER_01: And if I acknowledge the hope to be celebrated, will I be missed?
• 23:47
  SPEAKER_01: Will my expectations of this specific episode be met?
• 23:52
  SPEAKER_01: And guess what, friend?
• 23:54
  SPEAKER_01: As we were recording this episode, all I could see was what a complete disaster this was going to be.
• 24:00
  SPEAKER_01: Miles would not stop laughing as you just heard, and there was so much more that you didn't hear.
• 24:07
  SPEAKER_01: Haiti was making all sorts of crazy jokes, and Spencer and Paige were pretty much equally as terrible.
• 24:13
  SPEAKER_01: No one was taking this episode seriously, and uh how could they?
• 24:19
  SPEAKER_01: It wasn't as important to them.
• 24:21
  SPEAKER_01: And I stopped recording.
• 24:23
  SPEAKER_01: I began to put the microphone away, and in my mind, I was calling off the whole celebration.
• 24:29
  SPEAKER_01: I wasn't gonna even acknowledge that there was five years of the podcast.
• 24:33
  SPEAKER_01: But now I see the gold in this snippet of time.
• 24:38
  SPEAKER_01: Just because it's different than usual, or how it was different than what I was expected, it doesn't mean it was terrible.
• 24:45
  SPEAKER_01: Sometimes my expectations just do not line up with the outcome.
• 24:49
  SPEAKER_01: How about you?
• 24:52
  SPEAKER_01: Honestly, I believe this wrestle is indicative of the orphan spirit that I'm slowly outgrowing.
• 24:58
  SPEAKER_01: You've probably heard me identify the orphan spirit before as it relates to the levels of health, of your personality, and how you relate to finances and more.
• 25:07
  SPEAKER_01: For me personally, I see it show up these days when it comes to expressing what I really desire, whether I'm talking to the Lord, my husband, and even my kids.
• 25:16
  SPEAKER_01: And to be clear, I don't think the goal is managed expectations.
• 25:20
  SPEAKER_01: I think it's about aligning our heart with God's heart for healthy anticipation.
• 25:27
  SPEAKER_01: I do this well when I believe that I am God's beloved daughter, that I am fathered by him in the most tender of ways, and he will without hesitation provide all my needs.
• 25:37
  SPEAKER_01: When I choose to be fully satisfied in Christ, then all the less than perfect moments are the times when the outcome doesn't match my expectations.
• 25:46
  SPEAKER_01: Well, those moments no longer derail me.
• 25:48
  SPEAKER_01: I may not brush them off immediately, but ultimately I don't lose my joy because my satisfaction is not found in them.
• 25:56
  SPEAKER_01: They are found in him.
• 25:58
  SPEAKER_01: I've alluded to several times in previous conversations and social posts about how this has been one of the hardest years of my life, or hardest years of my adult life, really.
• 26:09
  SPEAKER_01: And in time here, and probably in a short time, I'll be telling more of the story.
• 26:14
  SPEAKER_01: But for now, I can say that beauty has come from the ashes, and I am seeing it because ultimately I'm experiencing the depth of God's fathering that I have never felt before.
• 26:25
  SPEAKER_01: And in fact, as I say these words, my heart quickens with gratefulness that I am living as his beloved, truly.
• 26:32
  SPEAKER_01: And it's the best feeling I've ever had, and I really desire that you would feel this alongside me.
• 26:38
  SPEAKER_01: All right, friend, I hope that you have found part one of the fifth anniversary celebration humorous and enjoyable.
• 26:46
  SPEAKER_01: Sweet Nyla, she mentioned her cheeks after doing the first edits of this episode, and I can only hope the same for you.
• 26:54
  SPEAKER_01: And an effort to grow in savoring and enjoying the special celebration, part two is going to be released in just a few short days.
• 27:02
  SPEAKER_01: You're going to hear so many more hilarious insights about my family, how their expectations of the Disney parks and trip either aligned or didn't.
• 27:11
  SPEAKER_01: There will be less of the giggles, and you'll also hear more about the big disagreement in the park that almost had me in tears.
• 27:19
  SPEAKER_01: Plus, I'll give another quick Enneagram synopsis heard in the conversation and how it can add to your understanding of the Enneagram as well as how to use it with your family, even if you have a reluctant child or spouse like me.
• 27:34
  SPEAKER_01: Once again, I am beyond grateful to celebrate with you.
• 27:38
  SPEAKER_01: Thank you, thank you, thank you for five fantastic years of the Simply Wholehearted podcast.
• 27:43
  SPEAKER_01: Continue to pursue God's perspective, purpose, and plans for the wholehearted life He has for you.