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- 0:35Speaker 1: dot net. Enjoy your exploration. Hello and good morning, Allison.
- 0:39Speaker 1: How are you doing today?
- 0:41Speaker 2: Good morning, I'm so glad to be here. Thank you
- 0:43Speaker 2: so much for having me.
- 0:44Speaker 1: Well, it's always very exciting to share a conversation with
- 0:46Speaker 1: you because you totally get the art and the craftsmanship
- 0:49Speaker 1: that goes into authentic storytelling, and the audience that you're
- 0:53Speaker 1: reaching is exactly where we need to do so we
- 0:55Speaker 1: can have future storytellers as well as future writers, whether
- 0:59Speaker 1: it be music, TV or even movies. I mean it
- 1:02Speaker 1: starts with a favorite author, Allison, that would be you.
- 1:07Speaker 2: I love that. I couldn't agree more.
- 1:09Speaker 1: How did this story and this series come into being
- 1:12Speaker 1: because this stuff doesn't just land on you. And I
- 1:14Speaker 1: think that's one of the biggest confusions about readers is
- 1:16Speaker 1: they think that, oh, we're just sitting around one day
- 1:19Speaker 1: and the pen decided that, oh, this is what we're
- 1:21Speaker 1: going to do.
- 1:23Speaker 2: Absolutely so the Liar Society series is a story told
- 1:26Speaker 2: from two different perspectives. Jack is the ultimate insider and
- 1:30Speaker 2: whether Be is an outsider, and they go to a
- 1:33Speaker 2: small New England prep school and they both get picked
- 1:36Speaker 2: to join the most powerful secret society in the world,
- 1:39Speaker 2: and they have life learning secrets they will do anything
- 1:41Speaker 2: to protect. I wanted the series to feel like better
- 1:44Speaker 2: than playing a video game, better than watching Force or
- 1:47Speaker 2: playing sports. I wanted it to be fun and interactive,
- 1:50Speaker 2: a mystery like Knives Out for the whole family. I
- 1:53Speaker 2: was a reluctant reader. I wanted readers who are reluctant
- 1:55Speaker 2: readers to really have a chance to say, oh, actually,
- 1:58Speaker 2: maybe a like book.
- 2:00Speaker 1: Well, And that's the thing about it is that you
- 2:02Speaker 1: can tell that people like books because they're carrying the books.
- 2:05Speaker 1: They're not stuffing them into, you know, into the digital
- 2:07Speaker 1: devices like they were maybe ten fifteen years ago. And
- 2:10Speaker 1: that's what I love about the texture of this book.
- 2:12Speaker 1: First of all, you grab my attention by the book cover.
- 2:15Speaker 1: I know we're not supposed to judge a book by
- 2:17Speaker 1: its cover, but it does get my attention. And then
- 2:20Speaker 1: when you go into that storyline, did you live this
- 2:23Speaker 1: stuff out? Because I feel like that you lived it
- 2:25Speaker 1: and then you're sharing it with me.
- 2:28Speaker 2: A lot of it is you know, I grew up
- 2:32Speaker 2: in New England, I went to prep school. I in
- 2:35Speaker 2: some ways this story is a fantasy. It's escapist. It's
- 2:38Speaker 2: a chance to go on a wild adventure that's sort
- 2:41Speaker 2: of an imagined version, a heightened and an imagined version
- 2:46Speaker 2: of a reality that I know pretty well. You know,
- 2:49Speaker 2: there is a secret society and sort of what happens
- 2:54Speaker 2: inside that secret society is complicated, filled with lies and
- 2:57Speaker 2: secrets and the truth being and those are you know,
- 3:01Speaker 2: real things I experienced in some ways and in other ways,
- 3:04Speaker 2: it's totally a product of my own imagination.
- 3:07Speaker 1: Well see, I love the fact that it is a
- 3:08Speaker 1: secret society because even as adults, and I would love
- 3:11Speaker 1: to see the numbers of the adults that are going
- 3:13Speaker 1: to be coming to this book, especially those traveling on airplanes,
- 3:16Speaker 1: because this is an airplane read. This is the kind
- 3:19Speaker 1: of stuff I want to have on that plane where
- 3:21Speaker 1: I can let my mind go and live in a
- 3:24Speaker 1: world that isn't now.
- 3:26Speaker 2: Oh, I love that. I love that it's an airplane
- 3:28Speaker 2: reads that makes me so happy. My friend Stewart Kids
- 3:30Speaker 2: actually read this book on two different flights, and halfway through,
- 3:34Speaker 2: like when he landed at the first flight, he was like,
- 3:36Speaker 2: oh my gosh, I just want to get back on
- 3:37Speaker 2: the next airplane so's I can finish what's going to happen.
- 3:40Speaker 1: Yeah, because the way that you play this book out
- 3:42Speaker 1: inside our mind, it's almost like sitting down to watch
- 3:45Speaker 1: a movie or a binge watch. I mean, that's the
- 3:47Speaker 1: kind of action that you put in there. With your
- 3:49Speaker 1: descriptive words and the way that you're using your adjectives
- 3:51Speaker 1: and the pacing of your paragraphs are just so spot on.
- 3:56Speaker 2: Thank you so much, I really I My biggest fear
- 4:00Speaker 2: as a writer is that a kid will say I'm
- 4:02Speaker 2: so bored, And so when I go to write the story,
- 4:05Speaker 2: I tried really hard to make sure that that thought
- 4:07Speaker 2: never crosses anybody's minds, and which means I have to
- 4:10Speaker 2: stay excited and engaged the whole time. So if I'm
- 4:13Speaker 2: not having fun writing it, then you're not having fun
- 4:15Speaker 2: reading it. That's that's my philosophy about it, So I
- 4:18Speaker 2: want to make sure I'm always having a good time.
- 4:20Speaker 1: I'm one of those people that likes to look at
- 4:22Speaker 1: the merchandising, and this is one of those where we're
- 4:24Speaker 1: both characters of this book. You could have t shirts
- 4:27Speaker 1: and things merchandise for both of them, and I would
- 4:29Speaker 1: love to see the numbers on who's taking what side
- 4:31Speaker 1: of this story.
- 4:33Speaker 2: Absolutely, you know, when I started writing it, I didn't
- 4:36Speaker 2: know if it was going to be I didn't realize
- 4:38Speaker 2: it was going to be told from two different perspectives.
- 4:40Speaker 2: I was just starting with leatherbe story because we needed
- 4:43Speaker 2: somebody who'd never been inside this world. It's the very
- 4:45Speaker 2: insuler world. But as I started writing the first couple
- 4:47Speaker 2: of chapters, I realized, we can't do this unless we
- 4:50Speaker 2: know the ins and out. So if we have a
- 4:52Speaker 2: perspective of somebody born into this, who has to realize
- 4:55Speaker 2: this is actually crazy to be born into this much
- 4:57Speaker 2: wealth and this much legacy. How do you wrestle with that?
- 5:01Speaker 2: And how do you maybe estate that and find your
- 5:03Speaker 2: own identity? Adults and kids, you know, talk about that
- 5:07Speaker 2: and talk about who we are and who we want
- 5:10Speaker 2: to be.
- 5:10Speaker 1: Please don't move. There's more with Alison Gerber coming up next,
- 5:16Speaker 1: The Liar's Society, the third part of a series. We
- 5:19Speaker 1: are back with Alison Gerber. One of the things that
- 5:22Speaker 1: you cover inside this book that really even activated me
- 5:25Speaker 1: as an adult is the fact that you cover trust
- 5:27Speaker 1: and you have friendship and being honorable. But what I
- 5:30Speaker 1: did was, when I started witnessing it inside your words,
- 5:33Speaker 1: I kept going, who do I trust? Who is my friendship?
- 5:36Speaker 1: You see how that works the mind of the imagination
- 5:39Speaker 1: and what does that do into a y a reader
- 5:40Speaker 1: where they're going, Okay, who can I be honorable to?
- 5:43Speaker 1: I want to be honorable. I want I want people
- 5:45Speaker 1: to look up to me. I want to be able
- 5:46Speaker 1: to lead. Do you plant those seeds inside of us?
- 5:50Speaker 2: I'm so glad. I really hope that readers leave trusting
- 5:53Speaker 2: themselves a little bit more about that, and that's that's
- 5:57Speaker 2: that's who we have. We have ourselves, We have our guts,
- 6:00Speaker 2: and a lot of times, as kids, I know I
- 6:02Speaker 2: was told a lot of times to sort of ignore
- 6:04Speaker 2: that gut and to follow the rules. We obviously have
- 6:07Speaker 2: to follow the rules of our school, the rules of
- 6:08Speaker 2: the law, the rules of our family. But in those confines,
- 6:12Speaker 2: how are we how are we acting in the world.
- 6:15Speaker 2: We have a lot more control as kids about how
- 6:19Speaker 2: we want to treat other people, how we want to
- 6:20Speaker 2: treat ourselves with our teachers, and we want to find
- 6:24Speaker 2: mentors outside of maybe you know, go to your librarian,
- 6:28Speaker 2: go to a gym, or somebody is a safe adults
- 6:30Speaker 2: in your school to look up to. And we don't
- 6:32Speaker 2: you know that that past isn't really clear?
- 6:35Speaker 1: Is you bring up librarian? And right away my mind
- 6:38Speaker 1: went to every librarian I leaned on from the elementary
- 6:42Speaker 1: school all the way up to high school. They I
- 6:44Speaker 1: just wish. I hope inside my heart that people still
- 6:48Speaker 1: love and respect their librarians like you just spoke of.
- 6:52Speaker 2: I mean, my librarian growing up was saved me. She
- 6:54Speaker 2: really did. She She saw I was struggling in school.
- 6:58Speaker 2: She saw I had a lot of a lot of
- 7:00Speaker 2: problems that had undiagnosed ADHD. And she was a yes person.
- 7:03Speaker 2: And I was living in a world of no. I
- 7:05Speaker 2: think a lot of kids are though. Don't do this,
- 7:07Speaker 2: and most in your chair and listen to the rules
- 7:08Speaker 2: and do that and she was a, yeah, I can't
- 7:10Speaker 2: help you with that. Let's go find a book for that.
- 7:12Speaker 2: Lets me there's another resource. You know, all my brands
- 7:14Speaker 2: are like that. They want to help you. They have
- 7:17Speaker 2: they live in a world of resources. So it's a
- 7:20Speaker 2: great place to go. And it's it's And one of
- 7:22Speaker 2: the things I made a mistake of as a kid
- 7:24Speaker 2: is when one adult told me an answer, I assumed
- 7:27Speaker 2: all adults would tell me the same answer. But there
- 7:29Speaker 2: are other faith adults at your school who might say
- 7:31Speaker 2: to you, you know, actually, let's look at this a
- 7:33Speaker 2: little differently. How can we find a work around? Yep.
- 7:37Speaker 2: I always want kids to be thinking who can I
- 7:38Speaker 2: go to?
- 7:39Speaker 1: I really want the YA readers to do some homework.
- 7:42Speaker 1: I musa sound like a dang teacher here right now.
- 7:45Speaker 1: I need them to go and research Joan Rivers and
- 7:48Speaker 1: Molly Ringwald, and I want them to understand why they
- 7:52Speaker 1: have had an impact on you for you to dedicate
- 7:55Speaker 1: this book to them.
- 7:57Speaker 2: So largren Wald was the first person who ever called
- 7:59Speaker 2: me author a writer. I took a writing close at NYU,
- 8:04Speaker 2: and she came as an actor and read our scenes.
- 8:06Speaker 2: And she looked at me and she said You're really
- 8:08Speaker 2: good at this. You should keep doing it. And my
- 8:10Speaker 2: connection to Joan Revers is that my mom and dad
- 8:14Speaker 2: were medical professionals in Boston and interacted with her, and
- 8:18Speaker 2: Joan asked to see a picture of me, and she
- 8:21Speaker 2: said that girl is going to be a star. And
- 8:23Speaker 2: in my darkest times, in the hardest parts of my life,
- 8:26Speaker 2: I held on to that.
- 8:28Speaker 1: Where can people go to find out more about you, Allison?
- 8:31Speaker 1: Because ten minutes with you is never going to be
- 8:33Speaker 1: enough time.
- 8:36Speaker 2: Thank you so much. I am on Alison, I am
- 8:38Speaker 2: at Alison Gerber on Instagram and Alison Gerber dot com,
- 8:42Speaker 2: and I hope to hear from readers. I'm really excited
- 8:44Speaker 2: at the launch of this book. It's going to be
- 8:45Speaker 2: so much fun.
- 8:46Speaker 1: Well, please come back to this show anytime in the future. Alison.
- 8:48Speaker 1: You know that door is always going to be open
- 8:50Speaker 1: for you.
- 8:51Speaker 2: Thank you so much. I'm so glad to be here.
- 8:53Speaker 2: This is a glass.
- 8:54Speaker 1: Will you be brilliant today?
- 8:55Speaker 2: Okay, okay too