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It's another episode of the Christian we've podcast.
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and enjoy this episode. Hello and welcome to another
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episode of the Christian read podcast, the 90th episode to be
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exact. Yeah, so this is a bit
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different. We haven't done one of those
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these in a while. You can tell I'm a bit Rusty.
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Actually haven't even done a podcast in about a week or so,
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but I get a bit more nervous during these ones when it's just
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me talking because a, I've never really been sure about the whole
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concept of a single. Only podcast.
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I know there are people that do it.
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Think Bill Burr is a good example of that.
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Another in the wrestling world is the hurricane hurricane Shane
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Helms. He also does his own single LED
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podcast so it can be done. The point is it can be done and
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for Me this just feels exactly like you know your standard kind
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of YouTube video I suppose. But the difference being that
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it's for the podcast and I've got a talk at length on this
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topic for a for at least 45 minutes or an hour or something.
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And normally you know, what I do with the podcast is I kind of
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cut it off, you know, a time that I think is best once I've
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asked all my questions and such And you know, I've really kind
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of given a good overview of my guests or the discussions that
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we have. And one of the reasons why I was
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prompted to do this episode is because a I wanted to get
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something out and this isn't me trying to kind of just put
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something out for the sake of it.
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I've actually planned on doing a video about podcasting for some
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time now, but I thought I would just do a regular video about
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it. I didn't think I would do a
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podcast and a bit to be honest. I think.
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How to make sense the podcast anniversary for the Christian
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we've podcast is in July and you know, I'm very very close to a
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hundred episodes now and I basically my point is I feel
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like I'm very kind of I would say confident in podcasting.
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Now I I kind of I know how to do it.
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I know the good and the bad parts about it, you know, I'm
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not I'm not an expert, you know. Do I still have a long way to go
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but you know, we've come a long way.
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Let's put it that way. And you know, when I look back,
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when I look at old episodes sometimes I realize that I have
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learned a lot and I have become a more a lot more comfortable
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and you know, we'll get into that throughout the course of
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this episode but I just wanted to start with.
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Yeah. Basically one of the reasons why
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I'm doing this or the main reason I'm prompted to do this
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is that I was supposed to actually have a guest today.
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And they haven't gotten back to me.
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Now this isn't me complaining this happens all the time but
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I've never really spoken about the things.
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You can kind of Come To Expect When You're a podcaster and I
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think maybe for those who are thinking about getting into
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podcasting, this might be a useful video.
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I'm sure there are many, many, many, many videos out there and
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podcast episodes about this very topic.
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But here's my take This is what I've experienced.
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So guests dropping out is very common.
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Nine times out of 10 people, just running reschedule.
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I mean, I rescheduled literally last week one of my regular
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guests and we're going to do that episode a lot later.
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So rescheduling is a very common thing, you know, and you can't
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hold that against people. You know, I think the process
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that I always go by is to give people, you know, at least give
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them a couple of days. To kind of get back to you.
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And normally, they will normally something came up.
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It's something serious, you know, maybe they, sometimes
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people just forget. Sometimes people just forget,
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I've forgotten sometimes and this is why I always make sure
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to have everything written down in my physical calendar and to
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have alerts on my mobile phone. So, for anyone looking to get
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into podcasting, absolutely make sure that you do that set all
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the alerts in your phone and in your Because if you forget to
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look at your calendar, you get a phone alert and I've had that
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literally 10 minutes before a podcast that I'd forgotten I was
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doing so. Yeah, it's very useful to have
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that but you know when you're doing podcasting not everyone is
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the same as you. Everyone has different schedules
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different setup. Strategies ways that they
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approach these things not, everyone is moving at the same
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beat as you are. And for that reason, you're
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going to get a scheduling conflict sometimes.
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You going to get rescheduling issues and whatnot, but there
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have been a fair. Few people that I was supposed
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to have on the show who never got back to me.
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And I'm still waiting back to hear back from them.
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I don't think I ever will. I just kind of assumed, okay,
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either something really serious has happened or they're just no
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longer interested. And and the killer the kicker I
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suppose would be the way to put it is when you discover that
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these people have been Been online since, you know, your
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podcast was supposed to air. So they literally are just
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ignoring you, you know, because you've message them, they've
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been online, they will have seen their messages.
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They will have seen that they have a message from you, and
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they've just decided to ignore you.
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Now, I'm not going to sit here and complain about that.
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You know, everyone has their reasons.
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But what I will say, is this I think you should show people.
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The respect they deserve by letting them know that you're
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not interested. You've changed your mind for
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whatever reason, I just think it's common courtesy.
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You know, there's been times when I've not been able to
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appear on people's shows, or I've changed my mind, but I gave
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them notice and the let them know.
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Hey, listen, this is why Eva I can't do it, why I need to
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reschedule or why I'm no longer interested in doing it.
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And people have always been very polite.
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Me when I've said that to them and I think you know, it's
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because you show them the courtesy they deserve.
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You're saying, hey I'm no longer able to do it and here's why
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thanks. But yeah, I get a lot of
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instances where people drop out on me and luckily, you know, we
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I have a bank of topics I can fall back on and eventually talk
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on the podcast. I think to be fair what I'm
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doing right now. This particular format of the
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podcast is one of my weaker formats you know just a single
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LED. Episodes, you know, they're not
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as good. I'm going to hold my hands up
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and say that, but I don't think it's necessarily because of me.
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Specifically, I just think it's more interesting to listen to
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two people talking or a bunch of people talking.
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Then it is to just listen to one person.
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I feel like maybe that's less engaging somehow less
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interesting to talk about. I mean that I suppose it depends
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if you really enjoy listening to a particular podcast and you
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like the sound of their voice or you like that.
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Things that they talk about then you know maybe it is still
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enticing. I don't know.
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I haven't done that many episodes just by myself to
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really be able to have a proper judgment.
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I mean I'm proud of the episodes that I've done by myself I still
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approach them the same way I normally would with anything
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else. Certainly I have from the
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research side of things and we'll get to that.
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But you know it. I do naturally find myself,
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comparing them to my discussion. Interview lead episodes and I
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just prefer them. I feel like they come out
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better. I feel like they're more
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interesting for The Listener / and gate engager listener /
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Watcher, Jesus. You can tell I'm so nervous
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right now. I don't know why this is weird
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for me getting nervous, okay. Just on a side note, I started
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doing food reviews lately. It's the first time I've ever
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done them and they've been really well received by both my
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regular audience and new viewers, you know.
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I'm Eating a lot more views for it and it makes sense.
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I mean, people people are just obsessed with weird things,
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people like to see, people eating for some reason that
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seems to be really interesting to people.
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So you know, I've kept doing those, I've made, I've
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Incorporated that into into my regular content but I get
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nervous, I make mistakes and obviously, you know, if I make
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too many, I leave a cut that out the video or, you know, I'll
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just reshoot it, but you guys know as As I do, I'm not big on
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editing. I tend to do it as and when is
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necessary, but I like to not have too much editing because I
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like these these, you know, pauses I like these real human
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kind of interactions that you see, you know, like people do
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stop for a second and not talk people do go.
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Hmm. Um, are That's, that's very
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normal part of everyday conversation.
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And, you know, I mean, I know there's many podcast out there
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that like to eliminate that stuff.
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I know there's people watching and listening to podcasts, who
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are sticklers for that kind of stuff, and they hate that I get.
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I just personally prefer my my style.
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That's why I do it that way, you know.
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I don't care if there's pauses or arming ignoring, you know.
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It's like it's not the end of the world.
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It's not a big deal. The only things that I don't
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compromise. So and I do make an effort to
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remove is you know, if one of my guests or I have like really bad
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internet that particular day and it affects the recording and
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there's too many instances of just pure silence.
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You know I delete that I make sure to remove that because that
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that is jarring to listen to and no one wants to listen to that
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and but other than that I mean okay I guess we're just talking
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about the editing now. Oh this is the thing, I didn't
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come into this with the plan and maybe I should Have but I feel
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like I can pretty confidently talk about this without needing
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a plan because, you know, I do this regularly, I've been doing
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this ever since what we took in July, 20 2010.
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I did a podcast before that as well, which I'll get into as
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well. But I mean, you know, it's a,
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it's a, it's a topic that I feel pretty confident about and I
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just, I guess I wanted to just kind of talk to you about the
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ins and outs of it. So not just what you guys see
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but the you know what you what happens behind Scenes.
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Now bring it back to editing editing is the thing that takes
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the longest amount of time for producing this podcast.
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And I would say in general, I mean, I could do a lot more and
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you know, one day I plan to once I have a team, once I have the
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funds to kind of get like, you know, a nice logo and and you
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know, maybe even include things like subtitles and stuff like
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that. There's a lot of stuff I would
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like to do in the future. And when I have the time and me,
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Means to do that, you're going to see a lot of changes but for
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now I work with what I have. You know, I'm doing everything
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myself and it's kind of crazy. Like how much time it actually
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takes the podcast itself to produce and create and release
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this podcast? It takes longer than anything
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else. I do, you know a standard
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YouTube video, you know what, I'm filming it for.
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Like 15 minutes, 20 minutes, I add a couple of things, maybe I
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do a little bit of tiny editing if I need to and then you know
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processes, Upload it to YouTube and then I do the SEO stuff and
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then, you know, so I'm talking about tagging and, you know,
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hashtags that kind of stuff and then the social media promotion
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of that I'd say in its entirety. All of that probably takes
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somewhere between half an hour to 45 minutes.
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If you don't count the time it takes for the video to buffer,
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you just talk about like, actual time that you're physically
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working on it. I would say between half an hour
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to 45 minutes. Sometimes longer if it's just,
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you know, requires more attention.
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But generally, it's pretty straightforward and a pretty
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quick thing to do. And obviously it's a lot shorter
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when I'm doing a short form content with the podcast.
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I mean, it's a whole process. First of all, if there were any
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things that I needed to cut out in the podcast, like things that
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can't be mentioned or you know, like, for instance, your there's
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a couple of episodes where I've had to cut entire hour long
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bits. Content because I just know that
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that stuff will get banned on YouTube because that's another
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thing. You never know what's going to
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get banned on YouTube. I've had an entire podcast band
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and removed by YouTube purely, because for about two minutes,
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we started talking about q and on and, and Donald Trump.
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And we didn't say anything negative towards either than we
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were just discussing. What that topic was.
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And that was enough to get the clip and the podcast band.
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So now I've had I kind of think about like, okay, if I ever talk
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about such topics again, I've got a remove that content and
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then by still got a upload it because it's good content but
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where can I put it? So then that's where I started
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putting stuff on patreon and as we move, you know, into the
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future patreon will be a kind of exclusivity style place.
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You know, I'll probably put like bonus episodes on there that the
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public doesn't see. So you have to obviously, you
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know, pay towards that and such and yeah pay pay.
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The extra content and stuff and I think that's a fair model, you
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know. I don't charge too much for
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that. And as time progresses, you
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know, the fans followers of podcast will be able to
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cultivate that and tell me what they want.
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And then that will help build the patreon.
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But anyway, enough parking, that wasn't even intentional.
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I was just trying to explain what I do an extra content, but
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that that happens, that's something you have to factor in
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when you do during the editing process.
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So then once that's done, then it's just Going down to like
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actually just shape in the podcast as it is and that
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doesn't take too much time the audio, you know, maybe you
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delete the beginning of the end parts, any blips there were, but
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generally the, I don't really tend to have many issues in that
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sense. And the only thing I really do
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with the video episodes is I put like, you know, a little clip at
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the beginning, just to say, hey, it's the podcast, Please
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Subscribe, blah, blah, blah, and then that's it.
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And that that doesn't take long that Says, I mean you're just
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waiting for it to buffer so you're not actually engaging
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with it unless you're having to edit and change things, but
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generally I would say I don't have to do that which is quite
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lucky. So that process is very quick
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and then obviously uploading the episode and all of the audio
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stuff probably takes. Mmm.
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I'd say upwards of half an hour maybe a bit longer but generally
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it doesn't it doesn't take that long again.
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It really depends on on like how long it takes to write about
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these. The I'd say the social media
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takes longer than the actual uploading of the stuff although
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uploading podcast episodes to YouTube naturally takes longer
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because it's a big video you know, Dad say I average about
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two hours and you know Podcast has been known to go a lot
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longer than that as you guys are very well aware but you know I
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always try to kind of end it at a time that makes sense.
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You know where I feel like I've if it's an interview have I
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asked all the right questions have I kind of Really made the
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most of this opportunity to talk to this person and get to know
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them and you know, put them over as well.
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And you know make them seen in a positive light and stuff and
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yeah, just have I asked all the questions that logically my
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audience, probably would have been thinking that's the
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mindset. I tend to go into it with and
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that's why I do a lot of research before I do my
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episodes. So it's kind of ironic actually
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today. I did zero research but again
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it's like I said before, I don't think I need to do any research.
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For a topic like this, it's very straightforward.
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I know what I'm talking about it without Sun sanctimonious, but,
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you know, I've been doing it. I've been doing this.
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I've been doing this a year now. I mean, if you, if you look back
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to when I started doing the tcj podcast, I mean we only did like
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seven episodes or something, but that was a real crash course in
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podcasting and how to produce a in a podcast.
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And that I mean, Jesus somehow that was more stressful than
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actually doing the Christian Reeve.
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Podcast. And I only reason I can think of
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for why that was stressful. And I've said this in videos
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before as well, and on on countless live streams.
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But the thing that stressed me out was that we set a day each
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and every week to do it only once a week.
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That's nothing. Right, but for some reason, I
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just used to get really stressed about it and I felt like, oh,
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we're going to kind of up to something good this week, or we
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got come up some good. Otherwise, it's going to be
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rubbish by blah, blah. Like, I feel like in a way I
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kind of suck the fun out of it by In too much and I don't think
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it really affected the other two but interestingly for Jack for
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Jacko. It took up way too much of his
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time through the editing process and now just want to finish off
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this editing stuff. Like it's amazing like the more
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time and effort you put into editing, the more you realize?
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Like just how much time that actually takes, like if you're
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going to do visuals and like clips and all of that stuff, it
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takes forever. Now bring it back to my Last
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Christian roof podcast, trust me, the editing of Clips takes
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ages because I basically just have to sit and listen to the
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podcast again and basically try and figure out what are the best
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moments. What stuff is likely to pick up
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views? What stuff is interesting.
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You know, and ever since I started doing shorts as well, so
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for those who aren't familiar YouTube in the last year,
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released a function, Called YouTube short.
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So basically it's videos under a minute and it works as a
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separate algorithm. So when you label things are
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shorts, they get thrown to a bunch of different people.
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And when I started doing it, there was only like eight
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hundred thousand videos out there or views or something like
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that, under the hashtag short. So, it wasn't even that many.
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Now everyone's doing everyone typically will have a Clips
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account or something like that. So there's a lot more
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competition. But even these days, When I put
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out shorts on my second Channel and my podcast Clips Channel,
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they get views, but normally it depends on the topic.
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So certain topics just get kind of ignored even if they are
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shorts. But the good thing about the
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shorts algorithm is that it tends to be pushed at least
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twice and it tends to happen like 7 or 8 hours afterwards.
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Now, how this relates to podcasting is that, you know,
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not when I set up my podcast Clips Channel, it was Expressly
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with the purpose of just producing clips from the podcast
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that would interest people. You know, it's it has several
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purposes. One of the purposes is basically
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to say, hey, if you don't have the time to listen to the full
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podcast here in the best moments from it, which I think you need
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to always offer your audience as a podcast.
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If you don't have the time to do the editing, get someone to do
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it for you because podcast Clips are going to draw a lot of more
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attention to. Towards your podcast.
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I've actually gained regular listeners and followers of the
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podcast through those clips. So you know, there is something
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to it. Now when the YouTube shorts
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thing came into play, Not only did I start uploading to YouTube
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the YouTube shorts separately so they're separate Clips.
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I also start up started uploading sorry to separate
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Instagram account and also tick tock Set up a separate Tik-Tok.
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Originally, I started putting them on my main Tick-Tock
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account and then I realized that, you know, every time I do
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an episode of the podcast, I tend to end up with like a lot
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of Clips, especially the shorts. So I thought, you know, it's
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better if I set up a separate account and I think it has been,
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it's been better received from what I can see.
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But I mean, the point with this is that you're it's like a
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two-fold thing. So you're doing short clips and
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long-form clips, and it's for different audiences.
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This has really, I mean, people that stick around for long form
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content. Nah, I don't know that they're
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the same people that are watching the short form content.
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But typically people that are watching short-form content, I'd
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say they're probably most likely not interested in watching long
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form content, not to say that they don't.
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It's just that you think about a lot of the stuff that you see in
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your regular social media feeds, it tends to be quick to the
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point Snappy, you know, it's to get your attention because
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everyone has a very short attention span.
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Days. So, your content needs to kind
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of be short and to the point and and really needs to grip them in
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the first 10 seconds. And if it doesn't do that,
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people just ignore you. So, that's one thing I've
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learned to do with the editing process.
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Is to make sure that I pick topics that are engaging.
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That's will probably inspire people.
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I try to pick up, you know anything, here's what I do.
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So it's if it's something that is trending or popular.
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I'll clip it if it was a funny moment.
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I'll clip it. If it's something.
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I feel that's useful. Hello motorbike that in some way
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is engaging or inspiring. I'll click that too, but it's
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it's all just my own opinion and that's tricky because sometimes
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I wonder like, well, what I find interesting might not be what
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everyone else finds it interesting.
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And that's the problem with the editing process.
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Eventually, when I do hand this over to someone and they take
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over this for me, which I'll be very thankful for because like I
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said, editing takes forever and that and that's just a clipping
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process once you get to like uploading it to social media as
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a whole other ballgame, because one of the things I didn't
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mention before is that I upload stuff to Facebook separately, as
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well, and for anyone who's a podcaster out there or just a
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content creator in general, I highly recommend uploading your
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stuff to Facebook and doing it like uploading it as a video,
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don't just Post on their upload stuff directly to the site
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because they will push it. It's weird for many years like
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it's in my orchid, Facebook cared about was Facebook
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advertising will hit the mic and I still feel like there is some
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truth in that. But at the same time, these days
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I'll randomly come across my podcast episodes or Clips just
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getting like, thousands of use randomly months afterwards.
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I think what happens is, they sit on the website for a while
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and then face Just randomly starts pushing them for whatever
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reason, and then you just get more attention and more views.
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And I've actually started growing likes on the Facebook
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page because Facebook has always been a bit of an afterthought
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that my approach to marketing. And advertising is basically
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just have a presence everywhere and be active everywhere.
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But put more effort into, you know, the sites that are giving
24:04
you more back, you know, so sites like I'd say, Wow,
24:10
Instagram, I'd say it. The biggest one for
24:12
interactivity to some extent sometimes Twitter works.
24:16
But I feel like with Twitter, you need to kind of jump on a
24:19
hashtag jump on a trend to really get noticed.
24:22
I mean they give an example how people don't pay attention and
24:29
you know are doing it totally wrong.
24:31
I did a little experiment on Twitter the other day and it's
24:36
pretty funny. You guys should try this at home
24:38
as well or work for you too. If you just type in 2, So,
24:42
podcast recommendations and post that is that we don't post a
24:47
question. Don't post anything else.
24:49
Don't even say like oh, please, can I have this please?
24:52
Would, you recommend me this literally just type in podcast
24:56
recommendations? And I guarantee you will be
24:59
inundated with like anywhere from 30 to over 100 or maybe
25:03
even more posts from promoters of podcasts trying to get you to
25:08
listen to their podcast. Now, bear in mind.
25:10
What I'm saying here, I Literally just typed in podcast
25:13
recommendations and nothing else.
25:16
And these people spammed. My my post, I'd like over, like,
25:20
35 posts there and I even tweeted on that.
25:23
Because basically someone the reason I did this is someone
25:26
tweeted before me, a friend of mine was like, oh isn't it mad
25:29
how all these you know podcast is just Spam their their their
25:36
podcasts and don't even think about anything and and like,
25:40
isn't it mad? How every time You know, you
25:42
make one of these posts that you get crazy interaction and he was
25:46
theorizing that maybe the only reason people make these, you
25:50
know, posts where they ask for podcast recommendations is
25:54
because they get so much engagement.
25:56
So obviously they get seen by a lot more people.
25:58
And I decided to test that theory now, I didn't get
26:00
thousands and thousands of recommendations, but what I did
26:04
get was over, like, 35 different podcasts promoted to me, where
26:10
people had not even Questioned what I was doing and I even just
26:14
sounded off in the comments and just made a joke of it and said
26:16
well this is just a joke, isn't it?
26:18
Like people clearly didn't pay attention but literally none of
26:21
those people realize what I was trying to do.
26:23
They were too busy. Just spamming their you know,
26:26
their podcasts to me and I've discovered over the years, a lot
26:32
of people especially online, don't care about what you're
26:35
doing unless they hear a buzz about what you're doing.
26:38
So there's not any point trying to promote yourself on other
26:41
people's stuff. People get aggressive towards
26:43
that. Like, even recently.
26:45
I remember I commented on someone's Tick-Tock, and I was
26:51
basically responding to something, they'd put in their
26:53
video and I said, yes, this is true about in real conversation
26:57
in real life conversation as well as podcasting.
27:00
And I mention that right and someone actually commented in
27:04
response to me saying, no one cares about your podcast and
27:08
then someone replied to them, saying he never promoted his
27:11
podcast. He never said anything about his
27:13
podcast, he literally just said that's true on my podcast as
27:16
well, and that's the Mad thing. As soon as people even think
27:20
there's a slight chance that you're trying to promote
27:22
yourself, they just lay into you and they just, they just hate on
27:27
you, and that's very true of podcasting.
27:29
But I do understand why there is that mentality, why there is
27:33
that aggression. Because, yeah, if you just look
27:35
online, anyone who's starting a podcast, like I kind of grown
27:39
when I hear about that, because I just know that they're just
27:41
going to Bam, for ages until they eventually calm down.
27:45
And realize that doesn't work. Everyone does it everyone in the
27:48
beginning, bit content, creator, podcast, or whatever?
27:52
They spam themselves to everyone because they think, oh, that's
27:55
the only way I'm going to get my name out there.
27:58
So anyway, people going to see me know, you've got be clever
28:01
with the way that you Market yourself, particularly with a
28:03
podcast, you got think about like the fact that there are so
28:07
many podcasts out there. So you got think?
28:11
About how can I differentiate myself, how can I make myself?
28:15
Stand Out above the crowd? How can I say, hey, I'm doing
28:19
something different to, what everyone else is doing, and this
28:22
is why you should check me out, but you have to choose your
28:25
moments carefully for when you actually promote yourself.
28:30
And I think more often than not, it has to come a time where
28:33
either people have asked for it, and you give them a genuine kind
28:37
of podcasts. Promotion that makes sense with
28:42
regards to what they're saying. When you say, hey, well, you
28:45
know, if you like this, maybe you'd consider checking this
28:47
out, maybe you'd enjoy this and leave it at that.
28:51
You don't try and force people to check out what you're doing.
28:54
You don't inundated them with that.
28:56
As soon as you start inundating people with stuff or spamming
28:59
your content, people lose interest, people get aggravated
29:02
because think about how much stuff is Spam.
29:05
The US on a regular basis, you know, one of the things I
29:08
stopped doing for instance, on my Book, which I think is an
29:12
important point like I have obviously a private account and
29:16
then a public account. Alright.
29:17
And I used to always basically share everything that was on my
29:22
page on to my private account. Now on my private account is
29:25
just friends and family, right? But I realized after some time
29:30
that Any of those people that aren't already liking my page.
29:36
I'm not interested in what I'm doing because otherwise, they
29:39
would be following and liking and interacting with my content
29:42
on my Facebook page. So, I should stop promoting it
29:46
and I did, and I only promote on my Facebook page now.
29:49
So if there is anything that people don't want to see, or
29:52
they're not interested, they won't ever see it because
29:54
they're not liking my page, and I think that makes more sense.
29:57
You got to kind of stick to your own pages.
30:01
Has and and try to focus on that and try to build a following
30:04
within that, like, people will come and check your stuff out
30:09
and you can promote to your own community and own audience, and
30:12
that's fine. But even with that, you got to
30:14
be careful like, I set up a Discord lot sometime last year,
30:20
and it's only really now that it's becoming like, a community
30:23
and people are kind of contributing to it and it's
30:25
conversations there and stuff. But one, excuse me, major thing
30:29
that I've changed recently. Is the I took off the automatic
30:34
app that you sometimes get when the new upload comes.
30:38
So the only time my audience gets notifications like to
30:42
everyone is, when video is released on my main account or
30:47
occasionally, I might ask for interaction from the audience,
30:51
you know, in response to something like, hey, I'm doing a
30:54
new episode of the podcast. Anyone want to ask some
30:57
questions or, hey, here's a new feature.
30:59
In the Discord server. I tried I to keep it as minimal
31:02
as possible because I don't want to spam even my own audience
31:05
because I don't want them to leave and get annoyed because
31:08
you have to think about every time you send these
31:09
notifications that gets sent to that person's phone and most
31:14
people tend to have push notifications so they just get
31:17
endless stuff, right? So you don't want to be that
31:20
annoying person. You kind of want to make your
31:21
posts count and you know, it's a fine art.
31:26
I think that I'm always working on that.
31:29
I don't promote everything. Because I don't have the time
31:32
to. Like, if you notice on my
31:33
podcast Clips Channel, I never promote it ever and I wish I did
31:39
have the time to promote it, but in all honesty, I don't think it
31:42
would make much of a difference, because there have been times
31:45
when I've trialled it and it just doesn't do anything.
31:49
Makes no difference whatsoever, and it makes me wonder like,
31:53
what really helps to push your content is it just YouTube
31:57
pushing it, you know, when you, when you've got a good topic or
32:00
is it like Like timing, it with the right hashtags on Twitter or
32:05
is it, you know, posting it in the right sub Reddit.
32:08
So, I mean, I've had mild success with all of these
32:11
different platforms but I do put certain amount of it down to
32:15
luck to be honest with you, some things are unpredictable, you
32:19
know, I kind of remember doing a video once about Reddit and that
32:22
just went crazy and I don't understand why I think it just
32:27
connected with people at the right moment.
32:29
Maybe. But it's very I want to say and
32:32
I've had similar experiences with the podcast.
32:35
There's only one podcast I've done that's on YouTube that
32:40
actually you know got like a really really high amount.
32:42
Most of them I would say. They struggle to get 20 views on
32:49
YouTube. 50 would be like a really good number for a
32:53
podcast. If it gets over 50, goes to 100
32:56
or something that's amazing. That's like best of all time.
32:59
But there's been two episodes that got really high views.
33:02
There was one that got like to 300 views and it's pretty
33:05
controversial, episode, quite early on, in the beginning.
33:08
There was another episode. An interview, I did with a guy
33:10
called John John Lannan and that got over 500 views and I was
33:14
pretty Blown Away by that. But I think it came down to the
33:17
fact that he has a pretty big committed audience and, you
33:22
know, maybe the interview was interesting.
33:24
I know that I had a good time doing that interview and he
33:27
shared some things that I was surprised to hear him share
33:30
quite personal things. And I think that helped and his
33:34
audience were interested in seeing that, but when it comes
33:37
to actually like, you know, Episode by episode, I think that
33:42
it's difficult to get a lot of views on YouTube, for a podcast.
33:46
First, I am because I've noticed I get a lot more views.
33:49
And listen, listen, so not views to the podcast on other
33:53
platforms and it makes sense. You know, Spotify up upon course
33:56
Google podcasts, you know, wherever you're listening to the
33:59
podcast. I think, first and foremost, our
34:02
podcast is, you know, it's an audio thing.
34:06
It's intended for for an audio experience.
34:10
So I stay way to say, I don't know.
34:13
I mean I always try to keep that in mind when I'm doing the
34:15
podcast. You know, I mean, there are
34:17
going to be moments sometimes that you can't help that are
34:20
visually focused like if that person's got particularly called
34:23
backdrop or, you know, they got something in the back of their,
34:27
you know shot. That's really interesting and
34:29
they show it on camera. Yeah, that's a moment when
34:31
you're going to need to go and watch the video version just to
34:34
check that out. But generally speaking, it's a
34:37
conversation that you can listen to where it doesn't matter if
34:41
you see it or not. The one of the reasons that I
34:45
there's two reasons. Why?
34:46
Why I introduced video one was? Well, why not?
34:51
You know, if you can you should you know you it's it's just
34:56
better that way. It's another option and for a
34:59
web site like YouTube, it's important to have video.
35:04
You know, there are many podcasts and and, you know,
35:09
songs albums, even the are obviously literally just the
35:13
picture of whatever it is. And that work To some extent,
35:17
but generally it's better. If you have something where you
35:19
can see the people because I think when you're watching a
35:23
conversation, you can kind of see the reactions of the two
35:26
people and how they interact with each other and such.
35:30
And I think that's an important aspect of podcasting.
35:33
I think it it provides a lot more.
35:37
But the other side of this of this thing is that I think that
35:41
and certainly for me it's really helped my podcasting because
35:45
when I I can see that person. I obviously, like I said before,
35:48
I can interact with them more and that helps the conversation.
35:51
So what you hear as an audio version of the podcast is
35:56
improved or enhanced by the fact that me and my guests can see
36:00
each other and interact with each other.
36:02
But you know it's not it's not the most important thing.
36:06
You know I did a podcast very recently where I didn't actually
36:09
see my viewer, they chose to remain anonymous and we did the
36:13
podcast interview like that and it made literally no difference.
36:16
And I think that's because the questions were good.
36:18
The topic was engaging and interesting and you know the
36:24
most important thing there was the content and, you know, the
36:27
actual conversation and the topic itself as opposed to like
36:31
being able to see video, like, with a podcast, it's always
36:35
about the conversation and the discussion.
36:38
That's got to be your focus. That is the most important
36:41
aspect of what you're doing. It's not what's in the
36:45
background. You know, I mean, that is an
36:47
important element for YouTube but elsewhere, it's not and
36:51
that's a major lesson. I've learned doing podcasting,
36:54
like, you know, try to focus on making sure that the audio
36:59
version of the podcast will be as good as possible.
37:02
So bringing that to equipment. I keep it simple, you know, I
37:08
think, ever since I got this blue yeti, Mike, if you want to
37:11
see it, actually, I'll show you on camera.
37:12
So this is the microphone that I use.
37:15
Its Blue Yeti. It's pretty cheap microphone,
37:19
it's about 70 or 80 quid Char to steal Z.
37:23
XI Del Z is a podcasting friend of mine, a twitch streamer good
37:28
guy. And he actually donated to me, a
37:31
huge amount of money to be able to get that Mike and that guitar
37:34
you see in the background so massive, thank you to him.
37:37
I'll always sing his Praises. Make sure you go check them out
37:39
and go follow him, still Z on Twitch but yeah anyway, that
37:45
really helps with the Podcasting experience.
37:48
As far as just being able to be heard, you know, I started the
37:52
podcast with a very, very rubbish Mike that I bought from
37:56
Europe, it was terrible quality. The only thing good about it,
37:59
was that it had a pop filter and that, you'll notice that right
38:01
now I don't have a pot filler, maybe I should get one
38:04
eventually, but this mic is pretty good for the most part as
38:07
long as you're just doing podcasting conversation, it
38:10
doesn't really pop. So that's pretty good.
38:13
But other than that, you know, I would say Who's podcast is that
38:17
are just starting, just get started, you know?
38:19
I know it probably sounds annoying to hear that, but trust
38:22
me, the sooner you get started, the better.
38:24
It will be because the more important thing is not the
38:29
actual equipment, but rather the content that you're making, you
38:33
can have the best equipment ever.
38:34
But if your content is trash, no one's going to listen to it.
38:37
No one's gonna watch you or, you know what I mean.
38:39
No one's going to care. So it's much more important that
38:42
you focus on, improving your podcasting skills rather than
38:47
getting the equipment. The equipment will come.
38:49
Yeah. That's just a matter of money
38:50
and and and making sure you do your research and find the stuff
38:54
that works for you. But yeah, like I said the
38:57
quality is very important but since we are talking about, you
39:01
know, equipment, I've got a couple of these couple a pair,
39:07
then why they call it a actually pair of headphones.
39:10
Is it a pair? I suppose it's a whatever.
39:14
This this this pair of headphones.
39:16
Yeah, this pair of headphones is what company is.
39:21
This should be an a it's 10d. Oh it's an American company.
39:26
I got it from from the states. So shout out to Kirk, Allah
39:31
SoCal for this. Another follower of mine who
39:34
actually was kind enough to send me a donation on Amazon.
39:38
So I bought these headphones and These have been a lifesaver for
39:42
podcasting. I got to say before then I just
39:45
used to use standard in-ear headphones and a problem with
39:50
that is that you could always hear in the background.
39:53
You could always very faintly hear that, I was listening to my
39:56
guest and that would typically happen when my guest was
39:59
speaking and I was listening to them and you can hear that in
40:02
the background. Now a way you can get around
40:04
that is by muting yourself when you're actually doing the
40:09
podcast. Um, so if you have the ability
40:12
to mute your mic, when the other person is talking, I would
40:16
recommend doing that. It's not always essential.
40:18
I don't tend to do it, but you can do it.
40:20
And I think that is a useful tool if you're having that issue
40:24
of feedback because you do kind of need them to be quite loud in
40:27
your ears, to hear them and then to speak.
40:30
But once you've got like, these, these type of headphones here, I
40:34
mean, and for those who are listening basically, it's just a
40:36
standard pair of outer ear, plug headphones.
40:40
And I guess, I don't know that the big classic ones you would
40:43
have seen in the 80s that you put around your head.
40:45
So going to go check out the video version you and you can
40:48
see them but yeah they are a lot better.
40:52
I think. And the sound is is clearer in
40:58
my in my ears. Now I'm not struggling to hear
41:00
my guest. One of the things I had to do to
41:04
compensate was turn my guest down on the audio computer.
41:10
Aradia. Sorry.
41:11
I can't speak properly today in order for it to not sound too
41:15
high and then be picked up by the microphone and I did that
41:20
for a long time and then when I got these headphones I realized
41:23
for most guests I could have them on full volume and it
41:26
wouldn't be heard by my mic but sometimes I do have to turn them
41:30
down and that mainly comes down to whether or not their audio is
41:34
particularly High. Some people have more powerful,
41:36
better microphones, better audio equipment so they come across
41:40
quite Loud and other people were really quiet, so you got
41:44
compensate. Now bringing this to the, the
41:49
style or not star. When were talking about the
41:52
program that I use. That's what I'm trying to say.
41:54
So, I use a program called mix pad Masters.
41:58
It's by a company called NCH software and shout out to trial
42:03
by fire air and wise. He introduced me to a range of
42:07
products by this company, NCH software.
42:10
There are Arkin company but basically they do they have a
42:14
thing called wavepad audio pad and videopad.
42:17
Now I use videopad for video editing so that's why I edit the
42:22
video version of the podcast and I use mixed pad to edit the
42:26
audio of the podcast. Now, with the podcast, I make
42:31
sure to recruit recruit could refer record via zoom and Via
42:38
mix pad at the same time, And the reason that I do, this is
42:43
for two reasons, one, I like to be able to edit the sound
42:48
afterwards for the audio version.
42:50
Like I said, I prioritize that over the video version as long
42:54
as the audio version comes out. Good.
42:56
That's that's what I'm happy with the video version.
42:58
Yeah I want it to come out good and generally Zoom does a very
43:02
good job of doing that of kind of normalizing, the volume and
43:06
such but you know, my This is on the audio version, so you get
43:11
yourself a good program. NCH software is, is pretty.
43:16
It's pretty cheap. I think considering what they,
43:20
what they offer you and I can't remember how much I pay but I
43:23
think it's like a monthly payment, maybe like twenty
43:27
dollars. It's not ice is pretty
43:29
infrequent. I don't think I pay every month
43:32
but I haven't checked, it's not that much but considering the
43:35
fact that I get audio pad or the mix pad it sorry it's called and
43:39
the video Go editing software. It's definitely worth the money
43:42
because they basically offer you like a suite of things as
43:45
opposed to just one program and if you pay a bit more I think
43:49
you can get access to other ones as well.
43:50
But the ones are the ones. I need are basically videopad
43:53
and mix Pad but yeah and one of the cool things about it is it
43:59
allows you to kind of raise the volume and sort of.
44:03
So if you did have like, you know, audio problems during the
44:07
podcast, you can kind of fix that to some extent.
44:10
I mean, obviously it's important that you have good audio in the
44:13
first place like you you could hear your guests enough and yeah
44:17
I've had audio issues over the over the course of some of these
44:21
episodes where you know my guest wasn't loud enough and I had
44:23
some complaints about that so I always make sure to kind of get
44:27
them as loud as possible. Before I actually start doing
44:31
the episode just so that my viewers will be able to hear it
44:34
and that I'll be able to manipulate the sound as much as
44:36
I can afterwards in the, in the editing process.
44:40
With regards to zoom. I mean, it took me a while to
44:44
come to a program actually works for me.
44:47
I used to use Google Hangouts but I quickly started to have
44:52
issues with that. One of the biggest issues being
44:55
that I couldn't actually record the audio.
44:58
So not the audio, the video, unless I do that screen capture
45:03
but then that just freezes up the computer because what at
45:05
least it freezes up mine because I'm using up too much of the
45:08
CPU. So, Yeah, I decided to just
45:11
basically not use that anymore. I used Skype once and that was
45:17
way too slow. I don't know why.
45:20
But whenever I used it on my computer just really slow, it
45:23
works on mobile for me. It just doesn't work on computer
45:27
and there's always connection issues connectivity issues on
45:30
that program. Zoom?
45:32
I don't know. I've never had any problems
45:34
resume ever. It's always been a very good
45:37
tool. The only negative I could
45:40
Whatever. Say about it is, if you have
45:42
more than two people in the call, then it sets a limit on
45:45
how long you can talk, but the very first and only time I ever
45:49
did that, I had a comedy duo known as the noise noodles on my
45:54
show and they were, you know, obviously in separate places at
45:58
the time and when it came to the 45 minute limit mark.
46:04
Zoom offered me extra time and I was like cool when I just said,
46:08
yes, really quickly and then it allowed me to do the rest of the
46:11
podcast. But obviously, I don't think it
46:14
always offers you that. So I think you gotta either pay
46:17
premium, which I don't know why you would do for zoo or a much
46:21
better way is to just take a break, stop the recording and
46:25
then continue it and just do another 45 minutes.
46:28
I think that's a better way of doing it.
46:31
You know, one cool thing. Good thing about podcasting,
46:34
Being is that you can edit things and you can edit stuff
46:37
out later and put stuff together and it can for the most part, be
46:44
something where you're not even picking up on it.
46:48
I've got to say, I mean video, you know, you can see when
46:51
things flitter, if something's been edited you can tell, but
46:54
we've audio, there's been times when I've been very proud of the
46:56
audio editing that I did afterwards where I've cut stuff
47:00
out and you can't even tell that there's been like so.
47:04
Deleted or that. You know, it's that there was an
47:08
issue there. It just sounds like they just
47:10
went to the next thing that we just change the subject or
47:12
something. And I always, I don't know, I
47:13
always take a little bit of pride in that when I'm doing the
47:16
editing of the podcast. I'm like, yeah, it worked.
47:19
We did it. And it sounds normal and it
47:21
won't sound annoying to The Listener.
47:23
And they won't be like, oh, what?
47:25
You, cut a bunch of stuff out. I want to listen to that now.
47:28
I don't know. My mind.
47:29
That's how it works. But yeah, I don't know.
47:32
What else can I say about the podcast.
47:33
I mean, like I said earlier, in the podcast, why I think that
47:39
research is probably the most important thing you can do.
47:45
It doesn't matter what type of podcast you're doing.
47:47
I think you always need to do research.
47:49
Because look, you're either going to be talking at length
47:52
about a topic or you going to be interviewing someone, right?
47:58
That's generally what most podcasts are about.
48:01
Discuss the other types in a second, but that's what most
48:03
podcasts are about. So you got come into that
48:07
prepared, right? And here's the thing, when you
48:11
do that you get over time you get less and less reliant on
48:15
that stuff. And you see it more as like a
48:17
guide and something to lean back on rather than the thing that
48:21
you base your entire podcast on, you know, I mean like right now
48:26
Yeah, I don't have stuff written down, but I thought about this a
48:29
lot in the past. I've, you know, I've planned
48:31
this out in advance. I knew I was going to talk about
48:35
and I came into it with that. So there has been some
48:38
preparation involved in this process.
48:40
And you know, I've, I've spoken about this stuff at length
48:43
before now, over typical episode of the podcast.
48:47
I would write down basically questions related to that
48:50
person's career, their passions, their hobbies.
48:53
And then anything that really sticks out anything that I'm
48:55
particularly Eat by or that I think my viewers would be
48:58
interested in knowing about and then I just try and ask like
49:01
random questions you know and I do a lot of ad-libbing as well.
49:05
What your focus should be. When you're an interviewer is to
49:10
be focused on getting a good conversation and discussion out
49:15
of your guests, right? Don't don't forcibly try and ask
49:20
all of your questions you know? You don't even necessarily have
49:22
to ask all of your questions what you're trying to do.
49:26
Is you're trying to make your guests feel comfortable.
49:28
This is what I try and do every podcast.
49:31
You'll notice when my guests first comes on the show, they
49:34
don't know what to expect because chances are they don't
49:37
have the time to go check my podcast out beforehand.
49:39
So they don't know what I'm about, they don't know what to
49:42
expect. Now my focus there on is to make
49:47
them feel as comfortable as possible, so that first 10 or 15
49:50
minutes, it's about putting them at ease and I'd say I've always
49:54
been able to do that and that's One thing that I'm proud of is
49:57
I've always been able to make my guests feel comfortable and able
50:01
to talk because that's that's the point.
50:03
That's what you're trying to do, you're trying to get them in a
50:06
sort of frame of mind where they're kind of willing to talk
50:09
about anything. And sometimes, they all share,
50:11
you really personal stories that you won't be expecting.
50:16
Like, for instance, I had one guest talk about his addiction
50:20
to alcohol and how he overcame that that was a deeply personal
50:23
story for him to share and I was really grateful.
50:26
I'll bet he did and obviously I asked him you know on the show
50:29
like are you comfortable talking about this?
50:31
And he was and we ran with it but I think that the only reason
50:35
that he ran with it was because he realized that I didn't have
50:37
an agenda. I wasn't trying to like make fun
50:40
of him. I wasn't trying to like, get
50:42
like the juicy gossip or something.
50:44
I was just trying to do a good discussion and I looked at that
50:48
situation as something inspiring that other people would listen
50:51
to. And be like, hey, you know what,
50:53
I've gone through that, I needed to hear that.
50:56
Or I'm going through that, I needed to hear that or even just
51:00
that's an inspiring story that inspires me in my life in some
51:04
shape or form. So I'm always kind of looking at
51:07
trying to make my guests feel as comfortable as possible.
51:10
That's my focus. That's my goal.
51:12
That's my aim and through that will come, the good conversation
51:16
and that is what the podcast is. That at least is what the
51:20
Christian Reef podcast is. It's about getting a good
51:22
conversation or discussion. Because when I started up the,
51:26
Last I, that's what I wanted it to be.
51:28
I thought it was honestly going to be like this.
51:30
I thought every episode was going to be like this, just me
51:33
talking and on that basis, I always kind of looked at like,
51:36
okay, I need to get a topic that I can talk at length and you
51:41
know, I'm going to have to do a lot of research beforehand to
51:43
try and make sure that I've prepared for it and done it
51:46
properly and have like a structure in a format to work
51:50
with and I'll get to that. But you know, it was always
51:54
about the research and Through every single episode that I've
51:59
done, the more I do it, the more confident I get and the less I
52:03
rely on my research, I just see it as something to fall back on.
52:06
I make sure that I ask the big questions that I have written
52:09
down the stuff, but more often than not, I find that the best
52:13
questions. I tend to ask our ad libs, you
52:15
know, I get them talking about something, they're passionate
52:17
about and then they just reveal things and then I quiz them
52:20
about that. And then you know, I kind of
52:22
just let it go on a tangent for a while and that bring it back
52:26
when Needs to, you know, that's kind of what you want to do it.
52:28
You guessed, you want to get them talking, just get them
52:31
talking about what they're passionate about and then you'll
52:33
have something to work with. Now, I realize there's a lot of
52:38
podcasts out there and they have all sorts of formats that don't
52:43
necessarily fit into what I'm talking about.
52:46
And that's fine. I think that the one thing that
52:49
all podcasts, share universally, good podcasts is a structure, a
52:54
good format. Now, what I mean, With that is
52:58
you need to have something that people can follow, right?
53:01
You can't have a podcast that's just people talking, okay?
53:05
Because I mean you can but you need to have some structure even
53:10
to that, you know? I mean I've heard of I know
53:12
people out there that produce podcasts and it's literally just
53:15
them shooting the shooting, the breeze and it's a mess and
53:19
that's a problem. It's difficult for people to
53:23
follow that. Like if you're all over the
53:25
place and You go from back from topic to topic, but, you know,
53:29
you keep returning back to things that you spoke about like
53:32
half an hour ago, an hour ago, that's frustrating for a
53:35
listener to have to listen to really, it's better to go from
53:39
topic to topic and make sure you kind of close that topic.
53:43
You discuss all of the different areas of that topic and then you
53:48
move to the next thing you know, you make sure to finish off what
53:52
you're doing already and then move to the next thing.
53:55
But like I think that sometimes it's not always that easy, you
54:02
know, you don't always know necessarily whether you finished
54:06
off that top that you feel may be like, or maybe I've missed
54:08
something. Maybe I've, I've left something
54:13
out. Sometimes, they'll be something
54:15
where, you know, you know, you've missed something out and
54:19
there's no logical way for you to kind of return back to that
54:23
and that can be frustrating. But I think the thing that you
54:26
have to remember is like, is that particular point that
54:29
important is it really going to affect the rest of the podcast?
54:34
Is it going to be like the deciding factor between whether
54:37
or not? This is a good podcast or a bank
54:39
on podcast, chances are it won't ruin anything.
54:43
You know as long as you've covered the main, the main
54:46
aspects of the topic or you've asked the questions that you
54:49
needed to ask of the guests. It's fine.
54:52
And here's the thing. If there is stuff that you've
54:55
missed out you Do follow-up podcasts.
54:58
You know, you can add that to the beginning of a podcast and
55:02
have a sort of a you know, like a recap so to speak or you can
55:06
ask your guest that on another episode.
55:09
You know, I've had episodes where and I've still got guests
55:12
lined up that I've had on the show several times and I'm going
55:15
to have them again on the show in the future and I've got all
55:18
these questions prepared for them.
55:20
I'm going to ask them and I did I see it.
55:23
I think it's brilliant. I think it's just an excuse to
55:25
have them back on the show. So we already know that we have
55:28
that Rapport and chemistry, so it will be a good episode, but
55:32
it will be like interesting and different.
55:35
It won't be more of the same will be different because
55:36
they'll be things that we haven't discussed and will
55:39
ad-lib, even further on the day, you know, we'll probably end up
55:42
talking about things we haven't spoken about before so, yeah, I
55:46
don't know. That's, that's kind of how I
55:49
deal with with, you know, guests and research and such and like I
55:53
just wanted to put a line under this and say that you know
55:55
structure and Mining for podcast is probably the most important
56:00
thing I think because like I said, guests need to have
56:03
something they can follow. I think it's good in terms of
56:07
consistency, being able to follow a clear structure so
56:11
people know what to expect. And also, you know, I think it's
56:16
good because a lot of people tend to have a podcast on in the
56:20
background, you know, while they're doing something and that
56:24
doesn't necessarily mean that they're not engaged and what
56:26
they're doing. It's just that they have that
56:29
podcast in the background and if it's like all over the place
56:32
that can become a bit annoying and jarring like I said earlier.
56:35
But if it's you know clear precise.
56:38
You know, it's just kind of structured and you know what to
56:41
expect it's kind of like easy listening.
56:44
I'd say it counts as easily listening material and you can
56:47
just have it on in the background.
56:48
Ground and, you know, absorb it at your own pace and if you need
56:52
to go back, you can go back and you there won't be any issue of
56:55
like, or where was that part where they were talking about
56:57
this? Because you roughly know where
56:59
they were talking about it? Because for 20 minutes, they're
57:01
talking about this thing, then they moved on to this thing.
57:04
And that I think is a really important aspect of podcasting,
57:08
as far as like, your listeners are concerned.
57:11
Like, I have people, I know that listen to the podcast, where
57:15
they don't do it all at once. They'll listen to like 20
57:18
minutes today, maybe 20 minutes tomorrow, and so on so forth.
57:22
And when I heard about that, I thought you know what, it's so
57:26
important that I continue doing this structure so that people
57:30
can do that and that, you know, they can even if they don't have
57:34
the exact spot that they were in last time when they re tune in,
57:38
they'll be able to find it pretty clearly because you move
57:40
from topic to topic and there's like a clear kind of Direction I
57:47
suppose. That, you know, but yeah, that's
57:50
just my thoughts on that and I think over time I've kind of
57:56
strengthened the formatting. I'm always revising it.
58:00
I'm always seeing how I can improve it.
58:02
You know, there's certain questions now that I ask every
58:05
guest, because I think that it's a good way to go, even close the
58:10
podcast or open up the podcast, or whatever the case may be, but
58:15
I think there are certain things that you should try to keep as
58:17
likes. Staples in each podcast, episode
58:20
for that consistency element. Now, outside of everything else
58:24
that I've discussed, I think the final thing that I want to kind
58:29
of Leave You pondering or thinking about is, if you're
58:36
planning on doing a podcast today, if you want to do a
58:39
podcast, just sit and think about what you're trying to
58:46
achieve with the podcast. What is the goal of your podcast
58:50
at its heart? Because nine times out of ten,
58:53
it won't be. I just want to talk about X Y
58:56
and Z. They'll be some sort of a goal
58:58
that you want to achieve with it.
59:00
And it doesn't, I don't mean numbers, I mean it can be that
59:03
but I think there needs to be a clear thing that you're trying
59:07
to achieve with it. The clear thing that I'm trying
59:10
to achieve with the Christian Reef podcast.
59:12
Is the I'm trying to have good discussions and interviews with
59:17
people from around the world. I want every episode to be as
59:21
good as the last one. I want it to be that any time
59:25
you tune into the Christian, we've podcast, even on YouTube
59:28
Spotify wherever you listen to the podcast, I want it to always
59:32
be something where it's an experience, it's something that
59:36
you look forward to something that, you know, you gain
59:41
something from Cuz I'll tell you this much.
59:43
Every time I have a guest on the show, I learned something I
59:47
gained something. It's a good experience.
59:50
Sometimes I forget, I'm even doing a podcast, it really.
59:53
Is that enjoyable, you know, I'm not going to say every single
59:56
podcast feels the same because it doesn't, but there are
59:59
particular ones that stand out to me.
1:00:01
But every time I finish an episode, I always do feel good
1:00:05
about it afterwards. I feel like that was good.
1:00:07
We had a good conversation. We achieved everything we wanted
1:00:09
to achieve You know, I'm yet to have a bad experience, touch
1:00:13
wood, you know, I'm sure there will be challenges in the future
1:00:18
but we'll cross that bridge when we come to it.
1:00:21
Basically I think that should be every podcast is kind of
1:00:26
overall. Aim is to have a very clear
1:00:30
vision of what they're trying to achieve and every time they
1:00:35
release any podcast, make sure that was their absolute best
1:00:40
effort. In trying to achieve that goal.
1:00:45
Now, I want to say thank you very much to everyone who's been
1:00:49
listening to Christian, we've podcast.
1:00:51
I know this is a different format, I know this might not be
1:00:53
for everyone. I've done my absolute best to
1:00:56
talk about podcasting and its entirety.
1:00:58
And what I've learned from it and I hope this was useful to
1:01:04
you, listening, either, existing podcasters, maybe you gain
1:01:08
something from it, maybe you related to this in some way for
1:01:12
people that are thinking about podcasting Like I said, take the
1:01:16
tips that you've learned from this video, learn from other
1:01:18
people. You know, make sure you do a lot
1:01:20
of planning first and structuring of your podcast and
1:01:24
then just get on the horse start start putting that podcast out
1:01:28
there and over time you'll start seeing results just like I did.
1:01:33
And finally, yeah. Just Please let me know what you
1:01:38
think about these podcasts. You know, good or bad.
1:01:42
I want to hear your thoughts. I want to know exactly what you
1:01:45
think about this podcast. I want to know who you would
1:01:49
like to see on the show in the future.
1:01:51
I would like to know what you'd like to hear about the show in
1:01:54
the future. If you look in the description,
1:01:56
if you're on YouTube or if you're listening on Spotify and
1:02:00
apple podcasts or wherever you listen to the podcast, I'll just
1:02:02
say that I'll just say this now, I have a Discord link.
1:02:07
And I don't often talk about it in the podcast, but basically,
1:02:11
the Discord is a community that I'm building, and I realize
1:02:14
there are people out there that are listening to the podcast
1:02:17
every week week on week. There's a regular following.
1:02:19
Its building people are actually tuning in to this podcast every
1:02:23
week and I appreciate all of you.
1:02:25
So thank you very much for listening to the podcast.
1:02:27
I really appreciate it and yeah we're not going anywhere.
1:02:31
Like The Best Is Yet To Come for sure.
1:02:33
But what I will say is you know, if you want to kind of It's the
1:02:37
podcast in a good way. Help kind of helped me to make
1:02:41
it better. Then your support either
1:02:45
through, you know, leaving feedback in the Discord, in the
1:02:48
Podcast chat or, you know, leaving a review on Apple
1:02:53
podcast Spotify, whatever. That's how it's going to help me
1:02:57
and don't don't, you know, don't be afraid.
1:02:59
Don't. If you feel like you need to put
1:03:01
some constructive criticism out there.
1:03:03
You feel like something is bad and you want to address it,
1:03:06
please do. Do because that's the only way
1:03:08
I'll learn and keep growing this.
1:03:10
So constructive criticism is very, very welcome.
1:03:13
Now I'm going to sign up and I'm going to say thank you very much
1:03:16
for listening to this different episode of the Christian roof
1:03:19
podcast. I hope you enjoyed it.
1:03:21
I enjoy talking about this. I'm glad I finally did a video
1:03:24
addressing this or keep saying video because it's just me
1:03:27
talking to a camera, but a podcast addressing podcasting,
1:03:32
but I hope you gain something from it.
1:03:34
And yeah. 10 more episodes until number 100.
1:03:39
How crazy is that? Well, thank you very much for
1:03:43
listening to the Christian re podcast and as always be safe be
1:03:46
well and I'll see you in the next one.