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The Loch Ness Monster Is A Greenland Shark And We Love Him · Hocus Pocus Lack Of Focus

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  Well, jiggle Hocus pocus, lack of focus, the uneducational
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  podcast that frustratingly meanders its way through such
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  topics as witchcraft, conspiracies, paranormal
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  activities, and everything strange.
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  I am your resident dog brained moron Justy, and I'm joined as
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  usual by our Hostess with the most chest.
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  When asked if she likes goblins, she said goblins on that cock.
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  When asked what was her favorite ghoul, she said Yabba Ghoul.
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  Oh, it's. Hello.
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  What's going on? What's going on?
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  I know I just did say you like goblins on that cock, but we've
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  been way too sexual in the last couple of episodes.
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  I told Alex to cut the last bit out though of the last episode.
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  Oh really? Because a girl I like told me
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  that she's listening to the podcast now and I'm like, oh
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  shit, so. Yeah, it was like, it's cut,
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  it's going to be cut. But umm, yeah, it was basically
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  me describing in great detail the size, shape and texture of
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  my vagina. Oh, OK.
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  Yeah. I remember.
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  So that was a nice. Little tree for me then.
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  Yeah. So that's, that's gone.
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  That's, you know, what's describing genitalia between
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  friends. You know, it's it's fine.
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  So the thing that we said we weren't going to do, we've just
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  done, yeah. So we just get into this episode
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  and fuck fuck demonetize straight away.
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  I mean, it kind of does it kind of is a good segue because it'll
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  be in the lost files and we are talking about cryptids so much
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  like Bigfoot, my vagina nowhere to be seen or on very grainy
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  footage. Yeah, I.
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  Was going to say yeah any any footage of it is blurry and out
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  of focus. We're wearing its watch.
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  Oh. Very good.
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  Oh OK, so we have a list of 20 cryptids that we want to talk
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  about. You have a list of 20 cryptids?
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  I am. I'm just going to.
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  Be like. Oh yes, I know that.
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  So obviously the number the main guy is Bigfoot, right?
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  And last night I text Justy and I told him to watch one of my
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  favorite movies, which is Willow Creek.
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  I think I I mentioned this on I. Watched it today.
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  Yeah, I think I mentioned this on one of the last episodes.
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  So it's by Bobcat Goldthwait, the guy who does all the sound
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  effects. Does that make you feel better
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  that it's by Bobcat Goldthwait that's why you didn't like it?
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  No, there's nothing that makes me feel good about this film.
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  Right. So this film, it's a found
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  footage, psychological kind of horror movie.
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  This couple, they go looking for Bigfoot in the forest where he's
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  mostly found Willow Creek. In Willow Creek, believe it or
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  not, that's. The Oh, he said.
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  It he said it and the most terrifying scene in the movie
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  just he has done nothing but complain about how boring.
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  Far be it from me, all right to normally I normally I would.
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  This is my normal way. If a girl says to me, a girl
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  once said to me like years and years ago, well, a girl once
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  said to me, I really like Imagine Dragons.
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  So I bought the album and I listened to it and I was like,
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  Imagine Dragons. Was she like 6?
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  There no. And I refute any kind of Epstein
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  file cooking claims that you're making towards me now.
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  No, this was, this was a while back.
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  She said she loved the Imagine Dragons.
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  I bought the Imagine Dragons. CDI told her it was the business
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  To be honest with you, a couple of hangers on that.
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  CDI won't have it said otherwise, right.
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  But. Blocking you after this episode.
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  Wasn't a big fan of Imagine Dragons.
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  Now that girl did not only shift me.
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  So was it worth telling her that I loved Imagine Dragons?
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  Probably not Do I like Imagine Dragons now?
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  Couple of songs I won't say no, I I will not say no.
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  A little bit a little bit of an Imagine Dragons fan and
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  sometimes I like to Imagine Dragons.
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  They're kind of my favorite thing.
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  So you know, any band who's going to call themselves after
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  my favorite thing, I'm going to kind of like them.
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  But anyways, that all being said, normally when a girl tells
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  me, I, I like this thing, I will go down the route of studying
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  that thing, figure that out and being like, yeah, that was so
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  good. Oh my God, that was so good.
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  I watched Willow Creek today with the hope that I'll be able
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  to come back to you, Danny and say, Danny, that was so good.
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  What a, what a, what a good film.
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  It was like being, it's like being wanked for 59 minutes and
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  then and then she gets up and says, well, I've got to head out
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  and you're just left there. Remember I said, remember I said
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  not 3 minutes ago that we should stop being sexual with this?
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  I've used a very sexual metaphor here and it is nothing happened
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  in that whole film until the very end.
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  And the thing that happened at the very end was not.
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  And I said this here. I don't watch horror films
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  because I'm a I'm such a scaredy cat.
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  I'm a little bitch and I The thing I was scared most about
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  this film was that I'm one of fucking walk into traffic after
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  sleepwalking my way out my front door and into the fucking St.
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  because it was so boring. What you say was psychological
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  was me looking at two people sat in the tent for 20 fucking
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  minutes. 20. 20 minutes of my life.
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  The tension of it, like it's the tension and it's so scary
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  because you can hear it's, it's basically the railways project.
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  You go back to that and they're in the tent.
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  It's very like that. It's that kind of like horror.
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  It is very gripping it. It's fucking scary.
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  It's a scary movie. I loved it.
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  I absolutely love it. It's one of my favorite horror
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  movies and that you missed the most fucking important part at
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  the end and had to go back. Yeah, I watched it.
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  It was. Fucking tell me that it was a
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  shit. Yeah, but what was Don't want,
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  Danny. I've sat here and listened to
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  you talk about fucking casting spells on people, fucking birds
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  flying into your fucking window, stuff exploding in your room.
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  And I said Danny. Yeah.
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  So, Danny, I'm. I'm going to keep my mind.
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  Open. You called me a lunatic?
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  Yeah, you. Are a fucking lunatic.
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  Let's get let's cut a fucking spade.
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  A spade. You're not fucking right in the
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  head. Right.
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  What? Like I've, I've listened to all
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  that stuff and I've been like, Danny, yeah, I respect
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  everything that you're saying. Even even if.
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  I can't get on board with him. I respect all.
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  Look, I believe what you believe is your truth.
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  But if you're going to sit there and tell me.
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  The two points. Sitting in a tent listening to
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  fucking Bigfoot, Robin sticks together outside.
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  It's a scary film. You are fucking.
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  You're going to take Danny? I'm not on board.
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  All right, a level with you, right?
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  A level with you. I will watch it again because I
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  haven't watched it in a few years.
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  I will watch it again and I will come back to you and I'll tell
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  you if it's still terrifying. Now bear in mind, this isn't me
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  bragging or anything. My TV is fucking massive.
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  It's more like it's like a Cinema TV.
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  Many inches. Are we talking here, Danny?
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  65. Oh fuck yeah, very good.
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  Big but I got £250 in the in the sale.
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  In the range actually. I just just just to let you
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  know, I have a 65 inch television in my in my sitting
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  room as well. I don't want to.
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  Love it. Don't want to make a big deal
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  about it. We could put them together and
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  then like a pretty big. Yeah, the Irish Sea might be an
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  issue there with that one, but yeah.
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  Maybe, maybe. But yeah, so I'll watch it
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  again. And I do think a lot of it is
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  the horror movies on that screen are fucking great.
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  They're amazing. Like, even when I went to see
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  Nosferatu in the cinema, like, it looks better on my TV than it
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  did. You don't have like fucking
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  emergency exit lights blaring over the fucking beautiful blue
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  and you know, orange camera work that he literally had lenses
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  specifically crafted for the camera to mimic that that
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  colouring. I will watch it.
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  I will watch it again and then I'll come back to you and let
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  you know if it's if it's held up for me because I haven't watched
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  it since maybe before in lockdown, I think.
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  I did watch it in broad daylight today.
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  And that's that's your fucking problem there.
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  Like I didn't watch out. I I used my black out blinds and
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  I closed the curtains and I got to it.
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  It was still kind of. That's not dark though.
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  Go watch it in your fucking demon bedroom.
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  I'm eh no me and St. will be sitting up going this is
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  bollocks isn't it? That's his absolute shite, so
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  he'd be there. Have you ever seen one of mine?
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  The Exorcist. That's fairly good.
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  He's like watching it and he's like Bigfoot.
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  Fucking hate that guy. That guy owes me money.
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  Oh no one can fucking find them when they go looking for.
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  That could bring us in there is a metaphysical Bigfoot rumors.
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  Yeah, there's a lot. So like this interdimensional
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  Bigfoot, this otherworldly Bigfoot, so he might not just be
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  some fucking ape that's walking around North America.
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  He's around. I kind of would more believe
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  that it's a very reclusive species of ape than.
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  Of course. Anything else like and then and
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  because he's been around for like fucking years and years and
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  years. How old is he?
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  Do you know what I mean? Yeah.
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  Like, surely he'd be just stumbling through the woods at
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  some point at the age. It's not like he's a fucking
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  like Greenland shark that lived to be like 600 years old like.
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  We'll talk about the Greenland shark a little bit later.
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  You're like Danny. Please stop.
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  No, no sharks. No shark.
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  Oh, the Greenland shark actually has.
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  We could actually talk about it today.
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  Yeah, I think the oldest Greenland shark that's still
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  around was born in like the 1600s, which is fucking in 16.
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  Hundreds is what they talk about.
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  Yeah. The reason why I'm saying we
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  could end up talking about today is because someone has posited
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  that that could be what is swimming around Loch Ness.
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  Oh, I wouldn't have even thought of that.
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  Yes, that sounds very, very well.
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  It's Loch Ness connected to the sea though.
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  How else would it get there? Eh, it has been OK in history.
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  So like he's a little shark, could swim up that and become a
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  big shark in there. And plus they have been known to
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  EH to be able to breathe in freshwater and salt water.
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  Nice, I love greatland sharks. Let's not go with Loch Ness just
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  yet because we've, we haven't even hit.
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  We haven't even we haven't. He's like number #3 on the list
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  or something. Umm.
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  Before we get into it though, I have a couple of questions that
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  we've gotten from our gentle listeners.
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  We, we actually have to preface this with, I'm not sure if
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  everybody knows. If you hear us talking about,
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  oh, we've talked about this previously.
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  There is some last episodes here that like files got corrupted.
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  We will mention that. We've talked about stuff like
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  the Denver airport. We spoke about for an hour and a
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  half and it's gone. And there is like some stuff.
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  So if you, if you do hear about us saying like, oh, we've spoke
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  about that and you're like, no, you haven't.
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  That's the reason why. So if these are these questions,
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  double up. No, they're just like general
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  questions. I, I, yeah, I've got like 5 of
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  them here, but umm, yeah. So we will revisit Denver
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  airport and stuff like that because we did an episode and it
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  was like a just a bunch of quick fire conspiracy theories.
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  We talked a bit about each one and then a lot about Denver
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  Airport and that was such a good episode.
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  And I was really, really pissed off that that got that got
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  corrupted. So we will go back to that one.
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  But we've had our feel of it for now and we'll come back when
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  it's fresh. So question the first what is
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  something super normal that totally creeps you out for no
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  good reason? Super normal.
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  It's just normal everyday thing that you find really creepy for
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  no reason. I'm morbidly afraid of
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  butterflies and moths. Really.
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  Yeah, couldn't care. Like if a fucking if a snake was
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  to drop on my lap right now, I'd probably go, oh, there's a
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  snake. If a butterfly flew into that
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  window like there, you'd see a justy shaped hole in that door
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  over there I'd be. Gone.
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  Is it? Is it the the like the
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  fluttering of the wings? What is it?
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  Umm, I thought moths always freaked me out.
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  I I heard a story. I don't like moths.
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  Yeah, moths are disgusting. They're just horrible creatures.
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  They're hairy fucking like their whole life cycle as well.
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  Think about it. Oh, you're, you're a fucking
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  worm with legs. And then you, you fucking turn
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  into a fucking chrysalis and then now you've got wings.
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  What the fuck is? No, that's not how life works.
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  I love how that that's always used by toxic people.
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  As you're growing as a person, don't stop.
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  Life is going to get amazing. It's like.
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  No, it's never. Yeah, exactly like butterflies,
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  they turn the fuck off. But anyways, right, So moths.
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  Moths freak me out, people say, but butterflies are so
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  beautiful. They're just trans moths.
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  I don't care what anybody says. Butterflies, butterflies are
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  just drag queen moths. I'm not having, I'm not hearing
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  any other fucking way around it, just colourful fuckers.
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  And people are like, oh, they can't hurt you.
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  Well, I've never got close enough to see how big their
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  teeth are and I'm not going with it.
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  So they. Don't have teeth or pincers?
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  They've nothing. That's what Big Butterfly wants
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  you to fucking think big. Butterfly I'm.
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  Not having any of them getting anywhere fucking near me,
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  they're just. I don't like moths like big big
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  ones I hate. Like whenever I was we used to
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  get loads of them in summer in my last house.
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  My ex at the time used to just get so sick of me just anytime I
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  couldn't go into the bathroom if there was a moth in there.
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  I like get it out but if it's a butterfly, no issue.
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  I don't know what it is. I think I just don't like ugly
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  people and that's why. Maybe that's it, yeah.
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  Well, I like I have. What's it called?
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  What is that word? Is it an etymology?
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  It's like taxidermy but bugs. And entomology.
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  Entomology. Yeah, that's what it is.
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  And I had a death's head moth in a frame and that looked really
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  cool and they were fucking huge. Yeah, you do seem like the kind
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  is that. Yeah, but I had a also, so where
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  the cat that I shared with my ex, he he used to just bring
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  back like mice and birds and things like that in the summer.
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  And one time he came in because he had, he had a cat flap.
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  So he'd just come and go. He couldn't like stop him.
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  And he came in and he brought like this thing and I came
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  downstairs to see what it was because he did this very
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  specific meow when he caught something.
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  He's really proud of it. And it looked like like a cat
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  turd, like it was, it was big, like it was a big sausage
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  looking thing. And I was like, did you bring in
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  a fucking turd? And I was like, what the fuck?
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  And it started moving right And I was like, what the fuck?
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  So I went down to have a look at it.
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  He was kind of batting it with his paw and it like reared up at
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  him and it had these like eyes all down its back.
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  Look up Hawk moth Caterpillar. I know what it is.
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  I was, it was fucking huge, huge thing and I'd never seen it
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  before. And then I was just like, what
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  the fuck is this? And even Matt was just like,
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  what do we do with it? I was like, throw it back
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  outside like obviously. And then I googled hawk moths.
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  Hawk moths are act. They're fucking massive and a
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  lot of people mistake them for bats.
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  They're so big and because they're out at night, they look
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  really cool, like they're the ones that the fur and.
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  Send them, send me pictures of them all the time because they
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  know I'm like they know I hate moths so they're like haha
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  here's a picture of this shit. They're fucking massive.
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  And like for the fact for the Caterpillar to be that big, I
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  was just like, there's no need. Why do you need to be that big?
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  Like and the lifespan of a moth is what, a day?
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  Like 2 days? I don't know.
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  Depends on the the the kind of 1 some of them, some of them stay
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  awake or alive for two weeks or that likeable.
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  Yeah, for the most part they are kind of like a few days, but.
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  This thing was fucking huge. Like I was literally just like,
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  what the fuck is that? I've never seen it before.
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  But then they have snakes over here in Wales as well.
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  I've never seen one. The adders.
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  Yeah, yeah. And then like just small grass
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  snakes and stuff. And it's like the animals are
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  farting old for anyone who's that just fucking went straight
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  into my brain there the minute I thought of the.
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  Adder, a nice animal cartoon, not Watership Down.
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  Water shoot down. Yeah, that's a.
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  Fucking hell. But anyways.
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  That was probably scarier than Willow Creek, but yeah.
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  Fucking earnest scared stupid was scarier than than Willows
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  Creek. Mine has to be.
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  We're not talking about Willow Creek again.
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  I don't know. I want to get into.
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  I want to say one last thing about butterflies.
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  Oh, go, go for it, go for it. Every, every woman in the world
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  has a fucking tattoo of waterfly.
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  If you're sitting there and you're like, I don't have a
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  tattoo of a butterfly. You're listening to this at home
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  and you're saying I don't have a tattoo of a butterfly.
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  Just check again. I'm sure it's fucking there
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  somewhere. Because every woman, every woman
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  you ever, you ever swiping on Tinder and you're like, oh,
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  here's a woman. Do you know what she likes?
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  She likes coffee, she likes hiking and she's got a tattoo of
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  a fucking butterfly. Those are the three things every
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  fucking woman has. That's what that's what life is
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  these days. ANYWAYS, that's my little rant
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  about butterflies. I'm just looking at my I have
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  bats, I have a spider, a slice of pizza, and yeah, I don't have
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  butterfly. You don't have butterfly?
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  No, it's not. It's there somewhere.
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  It's probably on your back. You can't see it.
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  I'll find it. Yeah, Yeah.
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  No, on my back. I've got the guy from Scream.
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  The the Mast or or Shaggy from Scooby-doo.
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  I have a little love heart and it's Billy and Stew.
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  Oh yeah, yeah. He's like over his shoulder and
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  then it's like true love. It's like the two boys.
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  No, it's not. What does it say?
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  It says B&S forever. That's the most you tattoo I've
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  ever fucking heard. I know I'm a I'm a pop culture
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  tattoo girly. OK, so I would say so there's
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  there's two, right? But one of them is like, I think
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  a pretty common phobia. So puppets and dolls and things
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  like that. Very, very afraid of that.
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  I think everyone who knows me knows that.
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  But what I've recently discovered that I'm terrified of
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  is I I have sub mechanophobia. Hold on, let me figure this one
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  out. Soba mechanophobia.
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  So Soba is under mechanophobia. Some hardly so easy as mechanic.
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  So like you're afraid of submarines?
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  Well, hold on. No, it's so it's under I.
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  You're afraid of being trapped underneath something in
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  something. So I have the action.
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  Do you want me to give you the actual definition?
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  Yeah, yeah, yeah. So it is the fear of submerged
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  man made objects. I just said.
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  Submarines, you fucking bollocks.
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  You said a submarine, you didn't say like.
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  A submerged man made objects that's.
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  The definition of a submarine. I'm not afraid of submarines,
• 19:42
  but it's things like, right? So basically it's a.
• 19:45
  Toaster in the battle. Yeah, ship propellers like
• 19:48
  stairs that like leads down like and they're underwater like, uh,
• 19:53
  Stillwater, like things like that.
• 19:55
  Umm and then there's like it's and I, I didn't know like if you
• 19:59
  actually, if you follow me on a on TikTok or if you see my, my
• 20:03
  TikTok bio is literally just just here for the sub
• 20:06
  mechanophobia content because there's like a bunch of craters
• 20:10
  that I follow and she just. Like this video like fucking
• 20:13
  creeps me out. This is horrible.
• 20:14
  I'll send you a few of the videos.
• 20:15
  It's and it's disgusting. And if you look at like the
• 20:18
  Hoover Dam and things like that, like how big the pipes and stuff
• 20:22
  are for the, for the Hoover Dam and like all learning and how.
• 20:25
  Would you ever get on the Eurostar and head from England
• 20:30
  to France on the the tunnel? The tunnel.
• 20:34
  Yeah. Yeah, I think so.
• 20:36
  Like it's not to the point where I'm like.
• 20:39
  It has to be wet so you you can disassociate.
• 20:41
  If you're on a train in a tunnel, it's underwater, but
• 20:44
  because you're not seeing. Yeah.
• 20:47
  It's the. Submerged.
• 20:49
  Right. The piping and the fucking and
• 20:52
  the things like that and you, you see like.
• 20:54
  Generally you love sharks. Yeah.
• 20:56
  Would you do one of those tunnels through an aquarium
• 21:01
  where like they all swim over and so?
• 21:02
  Oh yeah, I can do that. If you saw a propeller while you
• 21:05
  were there, you get freaked out. Yeah, and I hate that.
• 21:07
  I would hate the propeller. Why is it about that is That's a
• 21:11
  peculiar 1 though, because like. I know and I never realized that
• 21:14
  I had it. Like, I honestly, genuinely
• 21:16
  didn't cause it's like not something that you kind of you,
• 21:19
  you know, you look at every day or see every day.
• 21:21
  And then I came across this video, this, this woman, I
• 21:24
  forget her name, but she does like every October, she does
• 21:28
  spooky lake month. So she's like a hydrologist,
• 21:31
  right? And she's like, oh, 31 days of
• 21:33
  haunted hydrology. And she'll like, like this is
• 21:36
  the whatever lake in Texas. And underneath it, it has these
• 21:39
  machines that create blah, blah, blah.
• 21:41
  And it's just, it's fucking terrifying.
• 21:43
  It's so scary. And it's like she'll, she'll say
• 21:46
  like, oh, this amount of people were killed by this every year
• 21:50
  and like terrifying. And then you hear stories like
• 21:53
  my, um, exes dad, he, uh, was in the Navy, yeah.
• 21:58
  And a lot of his job would be like retrieving bodies and and
• 22:03
  he would just talk like majority of that was up on the North Sea
• 22:06
  where all the rigs are. And like the sort of even know
• 22:10
  like, no, I hate it. I just, I can't, I can't deal
• 22:13
  with it. And I never knew that I couldn't
• 22:15
  deal with it until I saw it. I was like, why am I so
• 22:18
  uncomfortable? This is horrible.
• 22:20
  This is actually disgusting. Like I feel sick to my stomach
• 22:22
  looking at this. And like, there's another thing.
• 22:25
  There's like a, you know, like cruise ship that basically like
• 22:29
  is just left to rot out in the middle of the sea and it's like
• 22:33
  tipped on its side. So divers go in there all the
• 22:36
  time. Fucking terrifying to me.
• 22:38
  So scary to like just go around and all of the shit.
• 22:41
  Like when you see James Cameron videos of the Titanic, what kind
• 22:45
  of does that bring anything up to you?
• 22:46
  Not really. It's weird.
• 22:48
  It's like, I think it's just modern things that are like
• 22:53
  working and or they were working and.
• 22:56
  It's the thought of getting like getting sucked into something or
• 22:59
  getting trapped in something or like that.
• 23:01
  Kind of if you there's like a thing, right?
• 23:05
  So there's where is it? What's it?
• 23:06
  Called Would you ever put your ass over a filter in a swimming
• 23:08
  pool? No, because I watched Final
• 23:09
  Destination. Never do that.
• 23:13
  I was going to say it feels good until it doesn't.
• 23:15
  Yeah, exactly. So there's this thing, right?
• 23:18
  Google this for me. It is supposed to be they call
• 23:24
  it the California glory hole, but that look at that and how
• 23:29
  fucking scary that is right? And then it's the whole thing.
• 23:32
  People claim it's like a portal to hell.
• 23:36
  It's and the size like it's so it's right next to a main road.
• 23:40
  And then if you see like how small cars are in comparison to
• 23:44
  the size of that fucking hole, it's disgusting.
• 23:48
  Oh holy shit, that's yeah. Right.
• 23:50
  It's really, really unsettling. Yeah.
• 23:52
  That's an unsettling thing, but I think that's that's also like
• 23:56
  the fear of like holes. Trypophobia.
• 23:58
  Is a big deal as well. So when you see water like just
• 24:00
  go like just disappearing into a hole like that, it's really
• 24:04
  freaky because you've got no chance like you can't swim away
• 24:06
  from that. You're just going to get so
• 24:07
  straight into that, like that's a, there's a black hole in the
• 24:10
  water there. Absolutely.
• 24:11
  Like it's, it's terrifying and it's like, it's things like
• 24:15
  that. And then if you just look at
• 24:16
  like, what's that ship that's docked these as a hotel now?
• 24:22
  The Queen Mary? Oh yeah, yeah, yeah.
• 24:23
  In LA. So Google Queen Mary Propeller
• 24:27
  and tell me that that's not like unsettling as fuck.
• 24:31
  Yeah. I'm looking at it here, it's not
• 24:33
  really doing anything for me. If you like a propeller room and
• 24:35
  then person next to it right? Oh yeah, yeah, yeah, that's it's
• 24:41
  big. It's fucking terrifying.
• 24:43
  And now last thing that I want you to Google, look up Hoover
• 24:46
  Dam pipe size. Yeah, I'm.
• 24:49
  I'm familiar with like I've seen people standing in the Hoover
• 24:52
  Dam, so I'm going to do it anyway.
• 24:54
  So anyone, if you want to play this game, you're probably like
• 24:58
  driving your car or you're on a run.
• 25:00
  But if you're. Sit in a ditch.
• 25:06
  But yeah, just look at Hoover Dam pipe size and that will that
• 25:11
  it tells you like bait that that's just the pipes.
• 25:14
  The scale of this thing. Well, 100 people died making it
• 25:18
  anyway. Yeah, First person to die on it
• 25:20
  was actually the father of the last person to die on it as well
• 25:25
  in construction. Yes, Yeah, yeah, yeah, yeah, I,
• 25:27
  I remember hearing that. Yeah.
• 25:29
  That's, that's an interesting one.
• 25:30
  Jesus, look at the size of that dam Neon.
• 25:33
  Exactly. Yeah.
• 25:35
  Isn't it just unsettling? It's just unsettling.
• 25:37
  Yeah, that makes sense. I I get the form.
• 25:40
  Because you can like again like puppets and.
• 25:42
  But like that, yeah, it's more logical than butterflies, so.
• 25:47
  I mean, yeah, Second question, have you ever felt like you were
• 25:52
  being watched but no one was there?
• 25:55
  What happened? Yeah.
• 25:56
  Have I ever felt like I was being watched?
• 25:58
  I suppose there has been instances in my life that I
• 26:00
  probably just don't remember, but for the most part, I never.
• 26:04
  I like, I live my life anxious that somebody might be watching
• 26:07
  me. What like.
• 26:09
  True mojo. It's a genuine thing.
• 26:11
  Or like I'm like, I don't want to inconvenience anyone or look
• 26:16
  foolish in front of anyone when I'm out and about.
• 26:19
  Like so I am all the time being like, and I know nobody gives a
• 26:23
  fuck. Nobody's watching me saying
• 26:24
  like, oh, look at that gob shit over there.
• 26:26
  But like my whole life I spend being like, but what if they're
• 26:30
  looking at me? But I don't really get that that
• 26:33
  kind of feeling where I'm like sitting somewhere and that
• 26:36
  there's eyes on me or anything like that.
• 26:38
  I think that's probably more of a, a female problem than for the
• 26:42
  likes of little old me because I like, I'm just kind of like some
• 26:46
  hairy lump. And I don't think there's anyone
• 26:48
  like gazing upon me with, you know, like if anyone's, if
• 26:53
  anyone's looking at me, it's probably to be like staying at
• 26:56
  it. But like I imagine.
• 26:58
  Women, I think they mean more in like the the ghosty sense.
• 27:01
  Yeah, no, but I see again, like I even a ghost.
• 27:04
  I can't imagine a ghost looking at me being like like if I was a
• 27:06
  ghost I'd be pervent. It wouldn't be fucking be
• 27:09
  looking at me like, oh, now that I can go through walls.
• 27:13
  It could be the girls. Bathroom for me and I just don't
• 27:20
  I just don't imagine anyone has that interested like staring at
• 27:24
  me, you know, like a serial killer or I apparently like
• 27:29
  Satan lives in my fucking bedroom, but like I haven't felt
• 27:31
  his his eyes on me yet. Baphomet.
• 27:35
  It's Baphomet. It's not Satan.
• 27:36
  Big Baffo. Big bad bath is living in my
• 27:40
  room but. Yeah.
• 27:41
  He doesn't whatever I'm eating, I know my dog is fucking staring
• 27:45
  at me, but like, that's, that's an obvious thing.
• 27:49
  Shout out Dolly, but no. I'd imagine you probably have
• 27:52
  more of this than than I would. All the fucking time, all the
• 27:56
  time. And it's mostly just because I
• 28:00
  do go to a lot of haunted places just as a hobby.
• 28:04
  And you'll always get it. I think like the last time I got
• 28:06
  it was one of my friends was visiting.
• 28:08
  We went to Cardiff Castle and you can go around that whole
• 28:11
  castle. You can go inside the walls on
• 28:14
  its own. Firstly, you're just walking.
• 28:16
  It's dead silent. It's like it's like a little bit
• 28:18
  of a museum and it's done like during World War 2 and like it's
• 28:22
  all like signs from World War 2 and like ration things and
• 28:25
  whatever. And then just there's just
• 28:27
  booming Winston Churchill voice out of nowhere and the wartime
• 28:31
  music like you're in Fallout. It's fucking scary as fuck, that
• 28:36
  alone. But then it's all I just, I felt
• 28:38
  like someone was like staring at me the entire time.
• 28:40
  And we were the only two people that like were in the wall at
• 28:42
  that time because it wasn't very busy.
• 28:44
  It was like we went Sunday morning and then I got like my
• 28:46
  hair grabbed. That was in Hell player tool.
• 28:49
  Yeah, yeah. And it's just you always feel
• 28:51
  like I was like a presence. Certainly certain places all go
• 28:54
  that like people claim are super haunted.
• 28:56
  I feel nothing. I'm just like.
• 28:58
  I have said I felt like the presence of like history and
• 29:01
  places, but I've never like felt like someone is staring at me.
• 29:04
  Like I find that like places, like graveyards, I never really
• 29:08
  feel anything there because I don't think that I don't think
• 29:11
  that the dead haunt anything. You know what I mean?
• 29:13
  I think. I don't think the haunt
• 29:14
  anything, no. I think the living places where
• 29:16
  people lived, if, if you're going to haunt somewhere, that's
• 29:20
  where it's going to be like, you know, and that's where I kind of
• 29:22
  feel history. So I don't know if it's feeling
• 29:24
  the presence of someone there, like watching me or whatever,
• 29:27
  like, but I do feel like the presence, like I said, like I
• 29:29
  was in places like Melbourne and Gale and places where like they
• 29:32
  kind of make it come, come alive with the history.
• 29:35
  And you do really feel like the presence of like, of like a
• 29:39
  history of people living there and, and being present there.
• 29:43
  And I don't think like you get that in a graveyard.
• 29:45
  That's just where people just drop off meat really in boxes.
• 29:47
  I mean, yeah, like, I know it's probably upsetting people that
• 29:50
  go down to graves and pray at graves and stuff like that.
• 29:52
  But like, I don't think, listen, if you're down there, like my,
• 29:55
  my mother is in the graveyard down the road there and my
• 29:58
  family probably won't be too happy with me saying something
• 30:00
  like I don't think she's there, you know, but that's just a
• 30:03
  place where you kind of go and remember her where there's a
• 30:05
  plaque. But like, yeah, my mother isn't
• 30:07
  there. She's here in this house that
• 30:09
  fucking I grew up in. And I I know like technically
• 30:12
  she's, but like it's it's where I believe she she lived is where
• 30:19
  her presence would be felt, not where she's like laid to rest,
• 30:22
  if you get me. So that's why I think like,
• 30:24
  yeah, of course, as you say, like when you're in the castle
• 30:28
  and when you're in like the Hellfire Club, the presence is
• 30:31
  felt there because I do believe that was lived in, if you get
• 30:35
  me. Yeah, the graveyards are creepy,
• 30:37
  but I again, I just don't feel anything.
• 30:39
  I'm always at peace in graveyards and like, So what I
• 30:44
  will say so like both, both my parents passed away.
• 30:46
  They're out in in crosstown and Wexford, right?
• 30:49
  And I don't believe they're there either.
• 30:51
  I think they're with all of us at any given time.
• 30:54
  Like there's five kids, there's a bunch of siblings on both
• 30:57
  sides. They have better things to be
• 30:59
  doing than just sitting in crosstown graveyard, you know
• 31:02
  what I mean? And I again, like I agree with
• 31:04
  you. That's just a place to go and
• 31:05
  like to have something physical to look at, I guess to
• 31:11
  commemorate. Do you know what I mean?
• 31:12
  Like because you put their like their remains there.
• 31:13
  I do agree with that. What I will say is that I have
• 31:17
  found going through graveyards and stuff.
• 31:20
  So say if you take like a modern ish graveyard where they still
• 31:24
  have relatives around, there's nothing to be felt there because
• 31:28
  like you say, like they're with you, they're with their family,
• 31:32
  they're with other people. I find when you go to the old,
• 31:35
  old graves that have gone unattended, there's maybe no
• 31:39
  ancestors around or, you know, they would have completely like
• 31:43
  not even known this person existed.
• 31:45
  That's where I feel a lot of things because that energy kind
• 31:50
  of has to go somewhere that has to, you know, I do think like in
• 31:53
  that case, it lingers around a little bit and like you'll
• 31:56
  always find like, I always like the, I mentioned it.
• 32:00
  I don't even know what episode, if you guys have heard it or
• 32:02
  not, if I've mentioned it, but the graveyard here in Cardiff is
• 32:05
  absolutely massive. I think it's like 250 years old.
• 32:08
  All the trees are kind of overgrown on that side and it's
• 32:11
  darker. And I guess it just feels a
• 32:13
  little bit sadder because nobody knows who these people are.
• 32:17
  And then the other side of the graveyard is all new graves.
• 32:19
  But yeah, I definitely have felt things, like old things not
• 32:23
  necessarily. Like, do you know what I mean?
• 32:26
  New things like pass on. And like the things were like my
• 32:29
  mom always said, like, oh, sure. You know, if heavens, really,
• 32:32
  I'll come back and I'll tell you kind of thing.
• 32:34
  Yeah, that hasn't happened. I'll see her in dreams and stuff
• 32:37
  like, and I'll kind of be like, if I'm stressing about
• 32:40
  something, she'll be in a dream and my dad will be in a dream or
• 32:42
  whatever. But yeah, I don't think like,
• 32:45
  people are just actively hanging around their gravesite.
• 32:48
  Journey be the most. Boring place for them to hang
• 32:50
  around, wouldn't it? It would, it would like, it'd
• 32:53
  just be like you'd sit there and it'd be so funny because it
• 32:56
  would be like that disgruntled granny or no one ever comes to
• 32:59
  see me. Is there a selfish bastard?
• 33:02
  Do you know what? I mean because like.
• 33:04
  You're just sat in your fucking gravestone and like you're.
• 33:07
  Able to float. You're all down to fucking my
• 33:09
  house. Exactly, exactly.
• 33:12
  I will say the only time that I've ever had kind of like the
• 33:15
  feeling of someone really watching me and being unsettled
• 33:18
  is when I first started doing like spells and stuff.
• 33:20
  And I wasn't using like protection spells before.
• 33:23
  And my sleep paralysis was fucking off the charts with it.
• 33:28
  And it was so vivid and there was just, I would wake up in the
• 33:32
  middle of the night and there'd just be an all cloaked fucking
• 33:36
  figure just sat on top of me and I would be screaming but could
• 33:40
  not scream. And I was wide awake.
• 33:42
  Like I could feel myself wide awake.
• 33:44
  That's a. Very common importance with the
• 33:47
  with sleep paralysis demons. That's another thing we have to
• 33:51
  talk about because everybody seems to get the same rotation
• 33:55
  of characters in their in their sleep paralysis.
• 33:58
  Do you ever hear of the Hat Man? I haven't got, I've heard the
• 34:01
  hat man, my sister gets the hat man, I get the hag.
• 34:04
  The hag is definitely associated with sleep paralysis, but the
• 34:07
  hat man is someone who you don't necessarily have to be in sleep
• 34:12
  paralysis to have seen like people have seen sleep paralysis
• 34:15
  or or sorry, the hat man while in the waking hours and like,
• 34:20
  you know, they've just sensed presents.
• 34:22
  I was actually talking to someone who mentions to me, Oh,
• 34:25
  I've seen this figure in my House of a guy.
• 34:28
  Basically they just described the undertaker.
• 34:30
  It's a guy with like a tall guy with a bra, broad rimmed hat.
• 34:35
  And I'm like 00 way undertaker but.
• 34:37
  Mark. It's a fucking me and Mark Alice
• 34:42
  is hanging around your house. But it's it's I said it to them.
• 34:46
  I said, you know, that's a common occurrence that, that
• 34:48
  that figure and I said, were you by any chance asleep and then
• 34:52
  woke up and weren't able to move And they were like, no, no,
• 34:54
  there's no sleep paralysis involved.
• 34:56
  I just seen that figure in my dreams, number one.
• 35:00
  And then when I woke up, still in the presence of the room when
• 35:04
  I woke up and when I when they get up to check and look around,
• 35:07
  the figures gone. It's like that that thing where
• 35:09
  you kind of see figures in the shadows and then when you turn
• 35:11
  the light on. So we.
• 35:12
  Turn the light and you're like, yeah, I'd be like, you see that
• 35:18
  just reminds me of like, oh, is it like one Family Guy episode?
• 35:22
  Like Quagmire was going into like, sneak up on Meg, but he
• 35:26
  ends up waking Stewie. He's like, sorry, didn't mean to
• 35:30
  wait. That's what I always assume when
• 35:36
  it's things like that, it's the entities just passing me like,
• 35:38
  oh you're not my grandkid. Sorry.
• 35:41
  Not you. This door this just on to the
• 35:46
  left. OK the hag scares the sharing me
• 35:52
  because it's just this old like wise and like prone looking
• 35:55
  woman. My sister said she's had the hag
• 35:58
  before and said it was so yeah, my sis, my sister, not the one
• 36:03
  that you would know who is the devil's fucking conduit, but my
• 36:10
  my other sister, who is, again, don't.
• 36:12
  Call her conduit. She'd actually probably hate
• 36:15
  that, but Nah, she's blessed, it's fine.
• 36:17
  But my other sister, Claire is, again, she's probably even more
• 36:24
  kind of like she'd be the one who'd be afraid of everything
• 36:28
  like she is. Can't, can't deal with anything
• 36:30
  in life. She's a believer.
• 36:32
  Is she in like the ghost and stuff?
• 36:34
  Yeah, like, I think my, I think all my family kind of believe in
• 36:36
  a little bit like they're all religious, sort of have to
• 36:38
  believe in some bullshit. And so they look like, you know,
• 36:43
  if you're gonna, if you're gonna believe in there's, you know, a
• 36:46
  sky daddy is sitting on the clouds fucking pulling strings,
• 36:49
  letting you know what you're doing.
• 36:50
  Like you're going to be a little bit more open to this kind of
• 36:53
  stuff. Yeah, She has had sleep
• 36:55
  paralysis. I remember when growing up and
• 36:58
  she described that as the hag sitting on her chest.
• 37:01
  She could feel the pressure of the hag sitting on her chest.
• 37:04
  And then she described the face of the hag as well as this, like
• 37:07
  long white face like that was distorted and stuff.
• 37:10
  And it really freaked her out. Yeah.
• 37:12
  It's like, you know, have you seen Pocahontas?
• 37:15
  It's like Grandmother Willow in Pocahontas is what I always
• 37:19
  attributed it to. Yeah, I've seen for Pocahontas,
• 37:23
  but I have. I'm not, that's not ringing a
• 37:26
  bell. What the grandmother looks like.
• 37:27
  No, the old the old mouldy tree that she talks to.
• 37:31
  Oh, yes. Yeah.
• 37:31
  Yeah, yeah, yeah, yeah, yeah. That like that sunken face,
• 37:35
  that's what like always stuck with me.
• 37:37
  And she has no eyes. Yeah.
• 37:40
  I'm going to get it now tonight. I know I am because I've been
• 37:42
  talking about it. But next question, Justy.
• 37:46
  That's me. If you have to spend the night
• 37:49
  alone in a haunted location with Danny.
• 37:53
  Willow Creek No, No questions. No questions asked.
• 37:58
  Where would you choose and why? Where would I choose?
• 38:03
  Yeah, you have to spend the night in a haunted location with
• 38:06
  me. Where are you bringing us?
• 38:08
  Fuck, I don't, I don't really know because like, this isn't my
• 38:12
  my level of expertise. I've probably been to you at
• 38:14
  this one. I'd be like, where do you want
• 38:15
  to bring me? But then you'd probably bring me
• 38:17
  to the most haunted place. Oh yeah, I don't know, but I'd
• 38:21
  definitely be willing to like give something like that a goal.
• 38:26
  I'd be I'd be so I'd be shitting it all fucking like I'd be like,
• 38:30
  because I do talk Billy big balls here about actually, you
• 38:33
  can't believe in this, You can't believe in that.
• 38:34
  But if I did go somewhere and they fuck.
• 38:37
  With you as well because of that a. 100% how?
• 38:40
  Would you like it's murdered first?
• 38:45
  Yeah, I've, I don't know, like, but I definitely think I'd be up
• 38:49
  for doing something like that, just to kind of get there, get
• 38:52
  that kind of adrenaline going. But I'd see, I don't know, I
• 38:56
  wouldn't mind doing something like we mentioned Wicklow Gale
• 38:59
  there. I wouldn't mind doing something
• 39:01
  like that, but again, I don't know enough.
• 39:03
  Would you do an overnight? Yeah, I probably would do an
• 39:07
  overnight somewhere, but like. So if I said right, we'll go to
• 39:12
  Loftus Hall, Yeah. And overnight.
• 39:14
  And Loftus Hall. The most haunted place in
• 39:16
  Ireland, apparently. Apparently, allegedly.
• 39:19
  Yeah, I do an overnight. Yeah, yeah.
• 39:22
  Good to know. Like, why not?
• 39:23
  I'd have to, like, you have to experience that kind of thing at
• 39:26
  some stage, don't you? Like, Like I've jumped out.
• 39:28
  Yeah. Like, you know, I'm into a bit
• 39:30
  of adrenaline. So like, if it is going to bring
• 39:32
  me and fucking weird me out, I'll do it.
• 39:35
  We have so I when I was in college, we had this this guy,
• 39:40
  he taught radio and he is like the head of the part the Wexford
• 39:47
  paranormal, like society, whatever it's called.
• 39:52
  He came and did my last podcast. I I could probably get him on to
• 39:55
  do this one as well to talk about it.
• 39:56
  Right. But he's seen a bunch of shit in
• 39:58
  his time and he actually witnessed an exorcism, funnily
• 40:02
  enough. Federate way, which is.
• 40:05
  I don't know if it's because they're all a little bit inbred.
• 40:09
  Or because it's haunted because of Loftus Hall.
• 40:11
  But it's a very weird fucking place.
• 40:14
  Like everyone is just a bit like, and they know when you're
• 40:17
  not from there, they're like, they'll just stare at you.
• 40:19
  It's very like. Very The hills have all these
• 40:21
  things. Yeah, it's it's really, it's,
• 40:23
  it's an unsettling place, like, because it is like in the middle
• 40:26
  of fucking nowhere. You.
• 40:27
  Can hear the banjos a minute across the county lane.
• 40:30
  Oh near new new new new new like legit Like me and my brother can
• 40:35
  probably go down and get married.
• 40:36
  The Deliverance is much, much scarier film than Willow Creek.
• 40:41
  Just if we're going to talk about films of.
• 40:44
  Voice is terrifying actually, yeah actually the newest wrong
• 40:48
  turn fucking terrifying on Netflix is the Netflix own one.
• 40:53
  Yeah, I'm not the one with Faith from Buffy.
• 40:55
  That is a scary. That's an awesome early 2000s
• 40:58
  horror movie, but this one, it was like, I think we're at least
• 41:01
  like 2 years ago. Very scary, very good.
• 41:03
  I'm going to start watching watching these scary films now
• 41:07
  because. You should the Netflix ones are
• 41:09
  actually quite. Good, I suppose.
• 41:10
  Yeah, I suppose I should get into it if I'm going to start
• 41:12
  talking about this shit. Dude, watch Wrong Turn and we
• 41:15
  can talk about it. That's a much scarier woodsy
• 41:17
  film. What's a really sexy wrong turn
• 41:20
  years ago? Wait, what's her head in there?
• 41:23
  Elijah Dushko The Faith from Buffy.
• 41:25
  Yeah. No fucking Oh no, I'm thinking
• 41:29
  of AU turn. Wait, wait, what's her head?
• 41:34
  The haunted place that you would, you would overnight with
• 41:38
  me and yeah, but we'll, we'll, I'll bring you somewhere.
• 41:41
  I'll come back and I'll bring you somewhere so.
• 41:44
  I've to go over there and do poker, Mormon and something
• 41:46
  else. Oh, that's gone now already.
• 41:48
  Well, it's going to be gone. I have.
• 41:50
  To be back, Yeah. To be back, some say.
• 41:51
  That's fine. You'll have to bring the car
• 41:53
  over on the ferry and then we'll go and we'll camp somewhere.
• 41:56
  Yeah, OK, really fair. And then I can like literally my
• 42:00
  apartment's really nice. We'll, we'll have a really nice
• 42:02
  wholesome evening with pool and games and nice food and drinks.
• 42:06
  And then we'll camp and. Then bring me out and frighten
• 42:08
  the shit out of me somewhere in the fucking woods.
• 42:13
  See I'm like, I love camping. I've gone camping solo a few
• 42:16
  times and I highly recommend it. I love it.
• 42:18
  Umm, so do you believe that objects can hold energy?
• 42:24
  So like haunted dolls, cursed jewelry, or like umm stuff you
• 42:28
  buy in like second hand shops? And have you ever owned
• 42:32
  something that felt off? No, that's my quick answer.
• 42:38
  I don't, I just don't like we have we've, I think we've
• 42:42
  thought about this one-on-one of the last episodes where the only
• 42:46
  things that like I was creeped out around, I was like, my
• 42:49
  mother used to have that collection, which would freak
• 42:52
  you out as well of like porcelain, like dolls, like.
• 42:55
  Oh. Marionettes and things like
• 42:57
  that. They kind of creeped me out, but
• 42:58
  I never thought any of them were possessed or anything like that.
• 43:01
  I think this is more of a view kind of a thing.
• 43:03
  Yeah, like dolls in general. And I, I think because just
• 43:06
  because a lot of the time they're used as like they're
• 43:10
  using witchcraft a lot of the time and like people make like,
• 43:13
  umm, what are they called? In other words, they're called.
• 43:16
  I don't like to make them. There's a funny little name on
• 43:18
  them, but basically they're made with like polymer clay and
• 43:22
  stuff, almost to serve as like voodoo dolls.
• 43:29
  What the? Fuck are they called?
• 43:31
  Fuck my ass. What are they called?
• 43:34
  Puppets. Yeah, so right.
• 43:37
  And and that, yeah, there's these little like you make like
• 43:44
  little claiming, right? I have, I've never done this.
• 43:47
  It's never appealed to me because it's like, you know, and
• 43:53
  you make the shape of like a man, you hollow out the stomach
• 43:57
  or where you're looking to like inflict pain.
• 43:59
  And then you'll put a pin in where you want to cause the
• 44:02
  damage with with intention. I've never done it.
• 44:06
  I've never been bothered. But you can do so.
• 44:08
  Have you seen like these pictures of like Gothic framed
• 44:12
  pictures of like hearts, like 3D resin hearts and there's like
• 44:16
  swords sticking into it? You can do that.
• 44:19
  People do that as like a modern form of witchcraft.
• 44:21
  Do they make it themselves as a polymer clay?
• 44:23
  And then they like stick pins into it.
• 44:26
  And each person, each pin represents like a person that
• 44:31
  they're. If there's.
• 44:32
  Something out there with my fucking voodoo doll.
• 44:35
  Just. Just to ease up.
• 44:37
  Just give it a hug, will you? I've had.
• 44:39
  Like. It's been.
• 44:40
  I'm not into that at all. I don't, I, I, I don't know,
• 44:44
  like I, I just think, right. It's like if someone is like in
• 44:50
  your head enough for you to go out of your way to fashion and
• 44:55
  mould them into a doll, you're the fucking problem.
• 45:01
  Let it go. Like do you know what I mean?
• 45:03
  Yeah, maybe. Maybe instead of like
• 45:06
  manufacturing clay voodoo. Therapy, yeah.
• 45:09
  Therapy the way I would. I would suggest that that's
• 45:12
  probably a time you go and see some kind of, you know,
• 45:15
  psychologists. And like people as well will be
• 45:17
  like you do your witchcraft and you know, you do divination,
• 45:20
  which is like tarot cards, your shadow work.
• 45:24
  Shadow work, I think is very important anyway, but in a
• 45:27
  therapy sense to go back inside yourself.
• 45:30
  And like, I have like this journal that I bought and it's a
• 45:33
  bunch of prompts and it's like, here's the situation.
• 45:37
  What would you do? And why would you do it?
• 45:39
  And it just forces you to look inside yourself and be like, oh
• 45:41
  fuck, like, why do I act this way kind of thing.
• 45:45
  And that is a huge important part of like witchcraft is to
• 45:48
  you have to be at peace with yourself before you're doing
• 45:50
  anything else because otherwise nothing's going to work for you.
• 45:54
  I feel like since I've started doing it with therapy again, I'm
• 45:57
  not the type of person I'll tell you witchcraft will fucking fix
• 46:00
  everything because if you think it will, then you're mentally
• 46:03
  insane. But I think when you get to a
• 46:06
  point where you're just like, I want to inflict so much damage
• 46:09
  on this person, do this and do that.
• 46:11
  And you're pissing in jars and putting Chili Peppers and
• 46:17
  fucking drawing, drawing your picture or like printing out
• 46:21
  pictures of this person and extreme things that take a lot
• 46:26
  of like energy to do. Yeah, a lot of negative energy
• 46:29
  to be like, exactly. Like, it's like the thing like
• 46:32
  where they talk about like goons these days.
• 46:35
  It takes nothing to pull the trigger on someone.
• 46:38
  Yeah, like, you can, you can shoot at the fucking school
• 46:40
  these days. But back in the day when you had
• 46:43
  to use a musket, it's a bit about this.
• 46:46
  Oh yeah. It might have been Jim Jeffries
• 46:48
  or Bill Burr one of those days. Like it's the whole when you're
• 46:51
  really angry, you're like, oh, I'm going to get this person out
• 46:54
  and you have to pull out your musket and you have to clean it
• 46:56
  and you have to fucking like, yeah, pump it, pump up, pump up,
• 47:00
  put the ball there and poured it.
• 47:02
  By the time you get halfway through pouring fucking
• 47:04
  gunpowder into this thing, you're kind of like, why am I am
• 47:06
  I this angry that I have to go and shoot this person?
• 47:09
  Like that's what I'm kind of thinking.
• 47:10
  Like if you're hovering over a cauldron and you're like, you've
• 47:15
  had to go and fucking catch a fucking news and you're like
• 47:18
  squeezing its eyeball into a cauldron.
• 47:20
  At what stage do you think, OK, maybe I should self reflect a
• 47:24
  little bit? Like I, I'm not exactly like I'm
• 47:27
  not a witch, but I have a lot of negative pen pent up.
• 47:31
  Like like negative thoughts. Like I told you before, with my
• 47:34
  ADHD, I get this these cyclical thoughts where like when I fall
• 47:38
  into a like a negative kind of a rush, I start thinking about the
• 47:43
  people who have wronged me. Like, you know, like a fucking
• 47:46
  like start thinking about how as.
• 47:47
  We all do. Yeah.
• 47:48
  Like it. Because if it's hurt you and
• 47:50
  traumatize you, it sticks with you.
• 47:51
  Yeah, yeah. Like, This is why, like, again,
• 47:54
  like I can't really be left alone with my own thoughts
• 47:57
  because if it becomes this like that's why I listen to so many
• 48:01
  podcasts and I kind of do kind of muffle out the sound of like,
• 48:05
  negativity a lot. Like I don't want to live a
• 48:07
  negative life. So I do kind of, I do kind of
• 48:10
  like circle around these negative thoughts towards people
• 48:14
  and mostly towards myself as well.
• 48:16
  And you kind of every now and again, you kind of have to like
• 48:19
  true therapy as well. You kind of have to think about
• 48:21
  yourself. Stop, bring yourself back in and
• 48:25
  examine yourself. Examine the ego that has given
• 48:28
  you these thoughts. Why you?
• 48:30
  Think of. The world is against you or why
• 48:33
  you think that it's so important that you need to do these kind
• 48:36
  of negative actions towards these people.
• 48:38
  And if you just release that negativity and kind of let go of
• 48:41
  that negative anger, then you won't hold on to it.
• 48:45
  Yeah, exactly. And that's.
• 48:46
  I know what this question was about.
• 48:48
  Do we believe that anything can be possessed?
• 48:50
  But I actually believe this circles back to this kind of a
• 48:53
  thing. If there is a malevolent spirit
• 48:55
  out there that kind of is harboring such fucking feelings
• 49:00
  that it's like I'm going to possess this fucking, I don't
• 49:02
  know what, whatever is in front of me, this fucking pen like
• 49:05
  this, this evil spirit is now inside that pen because it's
• 49:09
  like I'm going to possess this person's pen for the rest of
• 49:12
  their fucking life. Dude, just let it go.
• 49:15
  Have a little thing. Exactly.
• 49:16
  Let yourself, let yourself be fucking taken on to the wind and
• 49:20
  go and experience the fucking world a little bit and get out
• 49:23
  of your own negativity. And it's having having hate in
• 49:26
  your heart in general is just exhausting.
• 49:30
  It affects your quality of life. Like you're here hating that
• 49:33
  person, wishing horrible things on that person.
• 49:35
  They don't fucking know they're off living their life.
• 49:38
  They're doing whatever. It's not affecting them.
• 49:39
  It's affecting you and your mood and how you're feeling.
• 49:43
  Like I have do like, you know, I have people I don't like.
• 49:46
  Like my sister, for example, we don't speak.
• 49:49
  I wish her absolutely no ill will at all because what the
• 49:53
  fuck is the point, you know? I mean, there's there's no issue
• 49:56
  there. It's just annoying myself.
• 49:58
  If I'm out here, I'm like, I don't like this person.
• 50:00
  I'll just avoid this person or this person has done something
• 50:03
  to me. Okay, that was a shitty thing to
• 50:05
  do. Sometimes shitty people do
• 50:06
  shitty things. I'm not a fucking like not woe
• 50:10
  is me. There's people dying in the
• 50:12
  world, you know what I mean? And I think it's like you have
• 50:14
  to be so self obsessed and like the ego has to be massive to
• 50:19
  carry gorges because it's just like, I mean, I have people who
• 50:22
  fucked me over. If I saw them in the street, I
• 50:25
  would say hello to them because I'm just like, that's not me
• 50:28
  anymore. The person that you fucked over,
• 50:30
  that was a long time ago. Whatever it is what it is.
• 50:32
  And you just you kind of stay away from drama and you protect
• 50:35
  your peace so much better if you're just like, OK, what
• 50:38
  they've done to me was a reflection on them, not on me.
• 50:42
  And that's the most important thing of it.
• 50:45
  And it comes to things like, I will get back to the spooky part
• 50:50
  like hexes and things like I don't agree with doing because
• 50:52
  it's like very long term. And that can it can be like
• 50:58
  great. Like I've heard stories of
• 50:59
  people doing them and they're like the guy's like falling off
• 51:03
  a fucking ladder or like you know, or like a three story
• 51:07
  building, like things like that, that it's just like that's
• 51:11
  irreparable damage to this person's life and like, you
• 51:15
  know, and that's all just because you've carried on hate.
• 51:18
  And like another thing as well, it's not like a lot of people
• 51:21
  use like certain insects and like bugs in spells for like,
• 51:27
  well, mostly like curses and like painful stuff, right?
• 51:31
  My cat is, he caught a wasp the other day.
• 51:36
  So I have this massive wasp just in a little tiny jar on my altar
• 51:41
  because I'm just like, if I ever need to use it, it's there for
• 51:44
  something like not that I ever will, but he's there in the jar
• 51:48
  if I need to use him. But yeah, definitely there can
• 51:52
  be things that will haunt objects.
• 51:54
  It's usually someone very fucking hateful that didn't want
• 51:58
  to let go. So if you do have an object that
• 52:00
  you think is cursed and you're if you don't feel comfortable
• 52:03
  around, cleanse it with incense or get it blessed, do whatever,
• 52:10
  say ritual. Talking to bin and let it become
• 52:12
  problem. Fucking in the bin, Yeah, fuck
• 52:14
  fucking in the bin. That's also an an option.
• 52:17
  But yeah, I definitely, yeah, there are definitely things that
• 52:20
  can hold on to negativity and energy.
• 52:24
  Not necessarily spirits and ghosts, but negative energy
• 52:27
  certainly. Absolutely.
• 52:30
  Because it's like I said, like I've got a painting done by
• 52:33
  Richard Ramirez. It's creepy as fuck because you
• 52:37
  know, the person who did it and the energy of the person who did
• 52:40
  it. If I didn't know it was done by
• 52:43
  Richard Ramirez, it was just like a a normal person.
• 52:45
  It's a menacing and off looking painting that maybe I would be
• 52:49
  like, OK, the person who did this has a problem, but it's
• 52:53
  just it is it is a weird thing. Right Last question.
• 52:57
  And then we'll get on to the cryptids because we're now,
• 52:59
  we're in now and. Now we're in and you've got. 20
• 53:03
  cryptids to talk about. Although they're very short,
• 53:07
  I've made sure to keep them very short.
• 53:09
  I know there's there's actually a lot of cryptids the the lore,
• 53:13
  there's not a lot of lore, but let's get this last question.
• 53:15
  No, there's just like I've seen this guy and he sucked my sheep
• 53:18
  off. But anyway, sheep.
• 53:22
  So would you rather know exactly when you're going to die or
• 53:28
  exactly how you're going to die? And how would that change the
• 53:34
  way that you Live Today? I love this question.
• 53:38
  I. Actually, I thought this is
• 53:39
  going to be a tough one, like a trolley question, but that's
• 53:41
  actually really easy for me. I'd rather know when than how,
• 53:45
  because when you can live your life up until that moment and be
• 53:50
  like, right, I know how I know when it's going to happen.
• 53:53
  So I know what to live my life up until that.
• 53:56
  If you know how you're going to die, like let's say fucking like
• 54:01
  as a kid we I was a lot more afraid of pianos dropping than I
• 54:05
  am now because I don't see a lot.
• 54:07
  Of anvils that say Acme. Quicksand seems to like I
• 54:13
  thought quicksand was going to be.
• 54:15
  A. Lot but like imagine.
• 54:21
  If he's not, just say TNT. This case, this coyote keeps
• 54:25
  following me around. It's something suspicious about
• 54:27
  him. But no.
• 54:30
  Like if, let's say if I knew that the piano falling was going
• 54:33
  to be how I'm going to die, but I don't know when it's going to
• 54:37
  happen. I'm always going to be looking
• 54:38
  up. I'm always going to be like.
• 54:40
  Actually, this you can't live your life.
• 54:42
  And it's inevitable, like if it if the truth is, the truth is,
• 54:45
  and I see that piano up there and be like, oh, that piano is
• 54:47
  going to make the piano fall is the reason I die.
• 54:50
  And if I avoid that piano, I step out into the traffic, the
• 54:52
  piano fall almost still how I died because I was trying to
• 54:55
  avoid it. Like you're manifesting your own
• 54:56
  fucking death. Destiny.
• 54:59
  That's fucking good. Destiny is a good.
• 55:02
  Destiny, that's a really good point because I mean, and I
• 55:05
  guess you could look at it with something like, you're going to
• 55:09
  die of cancer and you're going to be like, Oh no, is this red
• 55:11
  velvet cupcake with the fucking great seafood die?
• 55:14
  What is what going to give me cancer like?
• 55:16
  Yeah, you can't enjoy your life. My God, I found a lump.
• 55:19
  That's your nipple. You're aroused, you idiot.
• 55:22
  Yeah, like legit, like I have massive tits, right, obviously.
• 55:26
  And like they sometimes you're like, is this something?
• 55:30
  And it's like, Oh no, I'm just too warm.
• 55:32
  And it's a spot like you're just like, it's just you get scared
• 55:36
  about different. Things oh it's a Pringle that I
• 55:37
  that fell between my tits last week yeah I.
• 55:40
  Get it. Oh, that was that almond from
• 55:42
  that bag. And not saying the other day
• 55:43
  we're like, but like, yeah, it's and it's things.
• 55:48
  If I I would not like to know how unless it was going to be a
• 55:52
  very, very long excruciating illness that I would be like,
• 55:55
  all right, well, tell me how long I have till that long
• 55:58
  excruciating illness kicks in so I can live.
• 56:02
  But yeah, I agree with you. I would rather just live life to
• 56:05
  the full and just go out with a fucking bang than like know when
• 56:11
  it was like know how it was going to be I.
• 56:13
  Say that and like, I know I'm not dying tomorrow.
• 56:19
  Maybe I am whatever like. You could literally like get hit
• 56:22
  by a car, you could be in a crash on your way to work
• 56:24
  tomorrow all. Right, thank.
• 56:26
  You and that's why I live the way I live.
• 56:27
  No, no, I'm not. I'm just, I would just say I
• 56:30
  like this, this. That's what I'm saying like I
• 56:32
  say that now, if, if I knew when I'm going to die, I'd be like,
• 56:35
  oh, I want to live my life to to the fullest, but like I'm kind
• 56:41
  of not doing that now. I really should like.
• 56:43
  I'm not doing that. Now I should take it into
• 56:45
  consideration that I should go out and.
• 56:49
  One, one of the things that I, I really, really took from umm, my
• 56:52
  mom passing away and her funeral, right, is that so my
• 56:55
  dad, when he passed away, he had been like a international truck
• 56:59
  driver all his life. He was like working on trawlers
• 57:03
  up in like the north. He did loads of things right.
• 57:06
  And my uncle got up and did this like beautiful speech about him
• 57:09
  and all these things that I I didn't even know about and I was
• 57:11
  finding out at his funeral and I was like fuck, I didn't know
• 57:14
  that me dad did this or let me dad played for this rugby team
• 57:17
  for X years or whatever. At my mom's funeral, I was sat
• 57:21
  there with my aunt and then my uncle who did the same speech.
• 57:24
  She was going to give another one for my mother.
• 57:26
  They couldn't pull up anything other than she worked until she
• 57:31
  got married and then she raised like 2 generations of kids and I
• 57:36
  was like, I sat there and not in a fucking bat.
• 57:38
  My mom was an incredible woman, like lover to fucking bits and
• 57:42
  like she literally she gave us the best life that we could have
• 57:45
  possibly had. But I am never going to be the
• 57:49
  person that you're like you struggle to talk about what I've
• 57:54
  done at my funeral. I'm not really really stuck with
• 57:57
  me. And I know she would never want
• 57:59
  that either because she used to say to me all the time, she's
• 58:02
  like, I love you all to bits, like just there's five of us.
• 58:05
  But she was like, if I could go back and not get married and
• 58:08
  have my career, I would do that. Because she got married at like
• 58:11
  21. That's back in the day when
• 58:13
  like, you know, you're fucking stupid.
• 58:15
  Like you don't know you're own Irish at 21.
• 58:17
  Yeah, I was just like, no, that's not that's not going to
• 58:19
  be me. I'm going to do something
• 58:20
  fucking something worthwhile, or I'm going to be happy enough in
• 58:26
  myself to say to know that I've done something worthwhile before
• 58:30
  I go. Yeah.
• 58:32
  And I think that's so fucking important.
• 58:33
  And I it just, when you start thinking like that, it kind of
• 58:36
  just makes the small things not important at all.
• 58:40
  Even when it comes to like relationships and stuff like
• 58:42
  yes, I fucking, I do want to get married.
• 58:44
  I want a boyfriend and whatever, like that'll fucking thing.
• 58:48
  But a it's extremely naive to think that just because you're
• 58:53
  with somebody, they're not going to find other people attractive
• 58:57
  or even have feelings for other people.
• 58:59
  That's just human. Yep.
• 59:01
  It. Happens.
• 59:02
  It does. It does unlike it just goes by
• 59:05
  whether you admit it or you don't admit it.
• 59:06
  Like be another person. Any other person doesn't define
• 59:11
  you in any way. See, getting married is not a
• 59:14
  fucking like achievement because I know people who are married
• 59:19
  like they've done everything by the rule book.
• 59:21
  Do you know what I mean? They have the kids, they're
• 59:23
  married, they have the houses settled down in the same town
• 59:25
  they grew up in. Miserable cunts.
• 59:28
  And you just, when you go about life thinking I could literally
• 59:32
  get hit by a bus at any fucking second, you just live better.
• 59:36
  You treat yourself better. You just, you know, I mean
• 59:40
  people who are like, oh, I don't like spending money because I'm
• 59:43
  saving. Like what are you saving for the
• 59:45
  grave? Like.
• 59:46
  Do you know what I mean? It's like less than 10 grand for
• 59:49
  a fucking funeral. Throw me over the fence.
• 59:52
  Do you know what I mean? Like I, I'm dead and gone.
• 59:54
  I I don't care. Like do whatever.
• 59:57
  You don't even have to fucking get me in the hole, just get me
• 1:00:00
  near to somewhere. Like just show me in the hedge.
• 1:00:02
  I don't care. Like fuck.
• 1:00:04
  Just. Kick me into the river, into the
• 1:00:06
  Taff. I'm fine.
• 1:00:07
  I don't care. And it's like just I think as
• 1:00:11
  long as you live for yourself no matter what, and like, not even
• 1:00:14
  like, again, this is going back to my Satanism lifestyle and
• 1:00:20
  beliefs. But live for #1 don't hurt
• 1:00:24
  anyone else. If something that you're doing
• 1:00:27
  to live for number 1 is hurting someone else, re evaluate that.
• 1:00:32
  Change it. Change it to where it doesn't
• 1:00:34
  hurt somebody. But yeah, just you have to be
• 1:00:37
  fucking selfish in this life because it's so short.
• 1:00:40
  And like, my mother, like, was in and out of hospital.
• 1:00:44
  She was absolutely fine. I spoke to her on the Tuesday on
• 1:00:47
  the phone. She was like, yeah, hoping to
• 1:00:49
  get out of here tomorrow. Thursday, I got a call saying
• 1:00:52
  she's got a couple of days left. I was like, what the fuck?
• 1:00:55
  I got there Thursday night. She was sat up in bed absolutely
• 1:00:58
  fine. And I was like, oh, you're
• 1:01:00
  fucking lying to me. You're having me on now.
• 1:01:01
  Like you're just catastrophized and everything.
• 1:01:04
  She was gone on Saturday. Yeah.
• 1:01:06
  It can happen that fucking quickly.
• 1:01:08
  And it's like, do you know, it just kind of pulls everything
• 1:01:13
  into perspective. Similar to me, my mother was
• 1:01:16
  like, she was like I'm after raising a bunch of kids now.
• 1:01:20
  I was about. I was, I wasn't about, I was 16
• 1:01:23
  at the time. And she was like, these are all
• 1:01:25
  more or less rare. I'm going to go and take some
• 1:01:27
  time for myself. She was like, I'm going on a
• 1:01:29
  holiday and she went on holiday with my father over to
• 1:01:32
  Switzerland and she died in Switzerland or in Austria.
• 1:01:35
  Sorry, she had over last year and she died over there.
• 1:01:39
  I'm like, this is when she's like, now is when I'm going to
• 1:01:42
  start living and she died as she started living.
• 1:01:45
  And that I, I have a kind of guilt built in there that is
• 1:01:50
  kind of, it's not my fault. No, it's still, it's still, you
• 1:01:53
  know what I mean? But it's still kind of there.
• 1:01:55
  It's like she, she was only getting started and it didn't,
• 1:02:01
  it didn't happen for her. Like, so I also feel guilty
• 1:02:03
  sometimes when I think about how I'm living my life.
• 1:02:05
  You know what I mean? Like I've seen a lot of the
• 1:02:07
  world, don't get me wrong. Like I've been to fucking like
• 1:02:10
  America, Australia, I've been all over Europe.
• 1:02:13
  I've fucking. Yeah, you've done a lot with
• 1:02:15
  your life. Yeah.
• 1:02:16
  I've done stuff like I've been in movies, I've fucking wrestled
• 1:02:19
  in front of crowds of thousands of people, like, and then but I
• 1:02:23
  still look at my day-to-day life and I'm kind of like, you could
• 1:02:27
  be doing more, you know? And yeah, it's like, again,
• 1:02:32
  getting that ADHD diagnosis is kind of like living that kind of
• 1:02:36
  anxious kind of a lifestyle where you're kind of almost like
• 1:02:39
  agoraphobic. Again, like we've discussed it,
• 1:02:42
  like I'm not agoraphobic. But like, again, I live a kind
• 1:02:44
  of a lifestyle where I am. I get out every now and again
• 1:02:46
  and I kind of fucking really get like pumped and energized by
• 1:02:50
  people. But a lot of the time I spend in
• 1:02:53
  solitude, I send, I spend at home where I'm like, I'm not
• 1:02:56
  going to go out. I'm not going to do that.
• 1:02:57
  I'm not going to see this person.
• 1:02:58
  And there is a guilt that kind of builds up there because you
• 1:03:02
  should be like, like, if you're not living, you're dying.
• 1:03:05
  And sometimes I feel like, Jesus, you need to be out there
• 1:03:07
  living a little bit more. So that's a good question,
• 1:03:09
  whoever asked. I know, I really like that was
• 1:03:11
  lease. I think what we should do is
• 1:03:16
  because we're both single as fuck, if we're still single this
• 1:03:20
  time next year we'll go traveling and do the crazy shit
• 1:03:23
  together. Because I always wanted to go
• 1:03:25
  traveling. My ex was terrified of flying so
• 1:03:28
  we didn't do any. We did 1 holiday where you'd
• 1:03:31
  have to fly and it was only like an hour flight.
• 1:03:34
  So I I've been like I mean I've been to a few places and stuff
• 1:03:37
  but like there's a bunch of places like 1 to go to.
• 1:03:40
  Like my dad being a truck driver went fucking everywhere.
• 1:03:44
  Just like a load you have to bring back to Ireland.
• 1:03:46
  It's been delayed by like 2 hours.
• 1:03:48
  I'll go to Auschwitz, so. Yeah, go on and check out
• 1:03:51
  whatever is. Yeah, yeah, that's, yeah, it's
• 1:03:53
  handy. I have booked some time off in
• 1:03:55
  September and I was planning on, I was looking at these solo
• 1:03:59
  trips that you go with like groups of people and there's a
• 1:04:01
  trip to Thailand. Oh, I've seen those.
• 1:04:03
  Yeah, but. I just missed the Thailand one
• 1:04:06
  and now I'm like oh fuck so I'm going to book stuff for like
• 1:04:10
  next year or later in the year. I'll go with you.
• 1:04:12
  Let's go. We'll go together.
• 1:04:14
  I'm going to, I'm going to see, I'm going to see what it is.
• 1:04:16
  I'll see what way it works out. But I wouldn't mind doing the
• 1:04:19
  likes of Thailand and maybe Vietnam, places like that.
• 1:04:23
  Right, so let's bring it all the way back.
• 1:04:26
  So I have a list of cryptids #1 obviously Bigfoot.
• 1:04:31
  Bigfoot. So Harry Apeman of North
• 1:04:34
  American Forest, known for huge footprints and avoiding camera
• 1:04:39
  quality. Yeah.
• 1:04:42
  Love's a fuzzy 4. That's basically it.
• 1:04:45
  So he's been around since. So people have been reporting
• 1:04:47
  him since like, what, the 20s? Well, yeah, like there's been
• 1:04:52
  talk of it from the 20s from the white, the white man.
• 1:04:57
  But like the the indigenous people have been talking about
• 1:05:00
  Sasquatch for like a millennia. So like, yeah, that's a yes.
• 1:05:05
  He has his own North American. And they didn't start calling
• 1:05:08
  them Bigfoot until I think in the 50s.
• 1:05:11
  Was it when they they came across because.
• 1:05:13
  Of his footprints. They came across those big
• 1:05:15
  footprints and as guys were like a building some stuff out in the
• 1:05:19
  middle of a forest and they found massive footprints in the
• 1:05:23
  soft sand. And when they examined these,
• 1:05:26
  they took plaster casts of these footprints.
• 1:05:28
  That's they're up near where Patterson Gimlin took that
• 1:05:32
  video. I think it's in.
• 1:05:33
  I think it's in the same spot where they found those past.
• 1:05:36
  Yeah, Yeah. So yeah.
• 1:05:37
  Yeah, yeah. So that's why in that place
• 1:05:40
  where you told me to watch that awful film Willows Creek, I
• 1:05:43
  think that's in Washington. Is it Washington State?
• 1:05:46
  Washington National. Yeah, yeah.
• 1:05:48
  Yeah. So up there in the kind of in
• 1:05:50
  the forests up there is where they would have seen these foot
• 1:05:54
  masks. As north as you can go.
• 1:05:55
  And I think as well it's that. So it's talk of like if it is
• 1:06:00
  like an indigenous ape species, North America kind of like
• 1:06:05
  Canada is where Rome kind of because there has been a few
• 1:06:11
  sightings in Canada of the same thing.
• 1:06:15
  Yeah, like there is very remote places in North America.
• 1:06:19
  So like you can imagine that if something this size is going to
• 1:06:24
  survive, if it's, if it's going to be something that's like
• 1:06:28
  between 6 1/2 and 8 feet tall is what they're normally say these
• 1:06:32
  things are. So like, yeah, again, it's very
• 1:06:36
  hard to believe that like, oh, we've never seen one or we've
• 1:06:38
  never found like the school of one or something like that.
• 1:06:41
  But you have to remember that like, well, these places are
• 1:06:43
  very remote. If like it's not beyond the
• 1:06:46
  realm of possibilities. Like how many, how many days you
• 1:06:50
  fucking hear people talk about? Like, like, like I'm, I'm, I
• 1:06:55
  live in Ireland. I know we don't have a lot of
• 1:06:57
  like massive fauna anymore, like any of the big predators we got
• 1:07:02
  1000 years ago, but like, yeah, I.
• 1:07:06
  Live. Kind of relatively rural, you
• 1:07:10
  know, I live in a town, but like, I, I, I go on walking
• 1:07:15
  trails. I walk kind of in nature.
• 1:07:18
  I've never come across the skull of a deer and we've got deer
• 1:07:23
  here, you know what I mean? So I've never like, I've never
• 1:07:25
  walked around. There's places in Ireland that
• 1:07:28
  are very remote that I've been in and I've never been like, oh,
• 1:07:33
  what, what, where are all the animals?
• 1:07:35
  The animals are hiding from us. And I imagine if like Bigfoot
• 1:07:39
  is, is a thing, he's, he's somewhere very remote and he's
• 1:07:44
  very good at hiding himself or herself.
• 1:07:47
  Yeah, because like even in like in Wales here there are a lot of
• 1:07:52
  sheep, like a fucking a lot of sheep.
• 1:07:54
  And they they're just let Rome like you'd like.
• 1:07:56
  Literally there is one point I was struck in the car for about
• 1:08:00
  half an hour because they just wouldn't get out of the road.
• 1:08:03
  They're everywhere. And you will.
• 1:08:04
  So Elan Valley I. Think because they're afraid
• 1:08:07
  because where they get fucked most of the time is in the field
• 1:08:09
  by the Welsh men. So, but Elan Elan Valley is my
• 1:08:16
  favorite place in the world. It is absolutely amazing and
• 1:08:20
  there's so many like wild sheep there that you absolutely do run
• 1:08:25
  into skulls all the time, just carcasses and stuff.
• 1:08:29
  Those are roaming animals, they're not like.
• 1:08:31
  Yeah. They'll.
• 1:08:33
  But that's what I'm saying, yeah.
• 1:08:35
  Like, and they've reintroduced Highland cows now, so they're
• 1:08:39
  trying to, like, make that a whole thing.
• 1:08:41
  Never seen a Highland cow skull anything.
• 1:08:44
  You'll always see sheep skull and like to be fair, I've never
• 1:08:49
  seen like a fucking little squirrel skeleton.
• 1:08:52
  I've never, you know what I mean?
• 1:08:53
  Like people always get these ethically sourced because I buy
• 1:08:56
  a lot of like animal skulls and things like that, like as
• 1:09:01
  artwork and it's always like ethically source.
• 1:09:06
  And it's like, well, like, you have to be in the woods all the
• 1:09:08
  fucking time if you're ethically sourcing entire carcasses.
• 1:09:14
  Yeah. Of like birds, you know,
• 1:09:17
  lizards, things like that. The I seen the dead body and
• 1:09:21
  actually made me quite sad because I'm a big sensitive spa,
• 1:09:24
  but I've seen a dead pine marten or stoves.
• 1:09:29
  I think it was a pine marten. It's they're a black with a kind
• 1:09:34
  of a reddish brown triangle on its chest and it was dead.
• 1:09:36
  I was I was driving out towards my father's house and that's out
• 1:09:39
  in the middle of nowhere. I was I remember remark and I've
• 1:09:42
  never seen I've seen videos of these things before, but I've
• 1:09:46
  never seen one in real life. My cat has just come out from
• 1:09:49
  beside the curtain and beside me.
• 1:09:51
  I'm freaking the shit out of me, by the way, as I was talking
• 1:09:53
  about. But yeah, I was like just from
• 1:09:59
  act. I was like, I've never seen one
• 1:10:00
  of them in real life. And that's how like and.
• 1:10:02
  You know it's. It's not like we live in remote
• 1:10:05
  times. It's like people have encroached
• 1:10:08
  on wildlife and they've had to retreat further and further
• 1:10:11
  back. And if something like Bigfoot is
• 1:10:14
  real and it doesn't want to be found, then yeah, it's going to
• 1:10:20
  retreat into the deepest, darkest part of the woods.
• 1:10:22
  That's my thing. And it's always like we, they
• 1:10:25
  were here first. Always like they were here
• 1:10:28
  first. We are the plague on Earth.
• 1:10:32
  We are because we showed up. We just decided to fucking kill
• 1:10:37
  and eat everything and destroy the habitats, everything like
• 1:10:41
  that. And it's like, there's so many
• 1:10:44
  species that, yes, haven't been discovered, but that's mostly in
• 1:10:48
  the sea because we can't get there.
• 1:10:50
  Everywhere else on Earth, there's species depleting.
• 1:10:53
  There is there is species being found.
• 1:10:56
  I don't know. Most people will probably argue
• 1:10:58
  and be like, oh, it's like insects.
• 1:11:01
  They're finding insects. Like you know, which they are
• 1:11:04
  kind of finding that, but like not like only a few years ago
• 1:11:07
  they found a brand new specie of iguana, Iguana.
• 1:11:10
  I love iguana ever since fucking God, iguana.
• 1:11:13
  I like, I was fascinated because like I'm really fascinated with
• 1:11:17
  them, with Darwin and the Galapagos and the marine.
• 1:11:22
  Marine iguanas really kind of caught my attention because
• 1:11:25
  there were these iguanas that had nowhere else to go.
• 1:11:28
  They obviously came off the mainland.
• 1:11:29
  They found themselves out in this fucking acapella, go out in
• 1:11:32
  the middle of nowhere and they adapted so much that they became
• 1:11:35
  marine iguanas like this, swim fucking underwater and eat kelp
• 1:11:40
  and seaweed and lick rocks that are under the water and then
• 1:11:44
  come back up. And they have like developed
• 1:11:47
  mechanisms to expel salt out of their like bodies and from the
• 1:11:52
  salt water. Like it's, it's an amazing feat.
• 1:11:55
  But like then you've got arboreal iguanas, which have
• 1:11:58
  adapted trees. Obviously they're the kind of
• 1:12:01
  natural ones, but there's desert iguanas who found themselves out
• 1:12:04
  in the desert and they're like, OK, now we can serve ourselves
• 1:12:07
  like have. To be rocks, yeah.
• 1:12:10
  But only recently they found these fucking new pink iguanas.
• 1:12:14
  Like the size of a fucking iguana.
• 1:12:16
  Like they could be. I used to actually own Iguanas,
• 1:12:21
  which is funny enough as well and.
• 1:12:23
  Yeah, my housemate had one and they're actually like weirdly
• 1:12:27
  friendly. Yeah, they're fairly docile
• 1:12:29
  because they don't want they, they, they're, they're
• 1:12:32
  vegetarians, like. His one used to just be like,
• 1:12:36
  just wanted to be out of the tank all the time.
• 1:12:38
  It was out of the tank it loved. Like obviously the body heat.
• 1:12:41
  So he would get into my hood and just lie on the back of my neck
• 1:12:46
  and just chill because it's like, yeah, I want to be around
• 1:12:49
  people, but I need the heat. Oh, they look, they look like a
• 1:12:52
  Komodo dragon. Ping.
• 1:12:54
  Yeah, they're. They're kind of they're, they
• 1:12:57
  are an iguana, but they do look like a monitor lizard.
• 1:12:59
  So a Komodo will be like the largest monitor that there is
• 1:13:03
  so. First spotted in the 80s and now
• 1:13:07
  happy to report that they've located more than cuts off there
• 1:13:12
  and I'm not clicking the YouTube link.
• 1:13:13
  Yeah, like they thought that they, they found a whole new
• 1:13:18
  subspecies of them like in a volcano like in 2000 and like 16
• 1:13:23
  maybe. So like.
• 1:13:25
  That's amazing. Like these things they didn't
• 1:13:28
  believe to exist. And now you've got these
• 1:13:29
  creatures that like grow to be like 5 foot, 6 foot long.
• 1:13:33
  And it was like, oh, you can find new species in places that
• 1:13:37
  you didn't. All the species were found.
• 1:13:41
  Like we're not talking about the Amazon rainforest here.
• 1:13:42
  We're talking about fucking a volcanic ring in the Galapagos,
• 1:13:46
  like where people are there studying all the time.
• 1:13:49
  So like again, if I'm not saying there is a fucking
• 1:13:52
  Gigantopithecus walking around North America, but I will say
• 1:13:56
  I'm not going to say it's not possible, you know, but even
• 1:14:00
  like you look at the why is why is there why is a worldwide
• 1:14:07
  thing that giant apes are believed to run?
• 1:14:12
  Like there's such thing as a Yeti in like the Himalayas and
• 1:14:17
  parts. Of Asia.
• 1:14:18
  This where? Yeah.
• 1:14:19
  Yeah, where they're talking about the abdominal snowman,
• 1:14:22
  which is like basically it's a it's just a big fall the.
• 1:14:25
  Same thing, only it's big adapting.
• 1:14:28
  To its circumstances yeah so it's like yeah, it's got white
• 1:14:31
  it's got white fur well polar bears weren't always white in
• 1:14:35
  fact, polar bears are. They can be traced that.
• 1:14:38
  Yeah, there's skin underneath, like black, isn't it?
• 1:14:41
  It's like really dark skin underneath.
• 1:14:44
  Yeah, they're actually they're follicles are actually see true.
• 1:14:48
  They just reflect the the sunlight.
• 1:14:50
  That's what makes them look so white.
• 1:14:52
  And well, yeah, like the polar bears can all be traced back to
• 1:14:56
  a brown bear from Ireland about 10,000 years ago, a female brown
• 1:15:01
  bear. So polar bears are Irish, by the
• 1:15:04
  way, just so just so everybody knows.
• 1:15:06
  Look that up. I might be pulling that to.
• 1:15:08
  To pull like a little a little damp wool over everything that
• 1:15:14
  we've just talked about. Another reason where I'm like
• 1:15:19
  please stop discovering things is because mankind just seems to
• 1:15:23
  want to fuck everything that we discover.
• 1:15:28
  So there was a bunch of Indian men jailed in the last I think
• 1:15:34
  it was last year for gang raping A Komodo dragon.
• 1:15:39
  I think it was a group of seven men and they gang raped 2
• 1:15:43
  deaths. They didn't kill it, they raped
• 1:15:45
  it to death. A Komodo dragon, which is
• 1:15:49
  notoriously the most dangerous reptile.
• 1:15:53
  I wouldn't say the most dangerous left out, but
• 1:15:55
  definitely the most dangerous lizard that there is.
• 1:15:57
  Lizard, Yeah. I mean, yeah.
• 1:15:59
  Well yeah, most dangerous lizard that we have very like, can kill
• 1:16:03
  a human easily, but if you've got 7 horny Indian dudes, you
• 1:16:09
  know, can't really do a lot against them, but yeah.
• 1:16:11
  There's a way that's fucking hell.
• 1:16:13
  Exactly #2. Hold on.
• 1:16:16
  We we haven't even talked. I know, I know.
• 1:16:18
  But we haven't even talked about the passing Gimlin footage of
• 1:16:21
  BIG4. Do you believe that that's real?
• 1:16:23
  No. I I know that like people have
• 1:16:25
  refuted it and said like, oh, it's there's a guy has has come
• 1:16:29
  out and been anyone who hasn't seen this footage by the way,
• 1:16:31
  it's the normal Bigfoot walk in footage, but it's.
• 1:16:34
  You know what it is? You have seen it, Yeah.
• 1:16:36
  You've you've seen it. Well, I would believe, I would
• 1:16:39
  believe if someone set up a trail Cam.
• 1:16:42
  Yeah, I would believe trail Cam footage over someone filming it
• 1:16:48
  and it always, it's always someone that has like fucking
• 1:16:51
  Alzheimer's or Parkinson's. Like he his his camera was.
• 1:16:57
  Fuck off. His camera was in his horse's
• 1:17:00
  saddlebag. He ran to his horse, the horse,
• 1:17:03
  he took the camera out. He had to leg it towards the
• 1:17:06
  Bigfoot and then he he only got the Bigfoot kind of in passing.
• 1:17:11
  The Bigfoot looked at the the camera and then kind of hardly
• 1:17:15
  walked towards the. Oh.
• 1:17:18
  Shit, I do not give permission for my face to be on film.
• 1:17:25
  Fuck. Off.
• 1:17:26
  Like. No trail comes are different.
• 1:17:29
  Trail comes have spotted things that have been like, like
• 1:17:32
  skinwalkers, when to go things that people can't explain
• 1:17:36
  because they fit that because people go fucking missing in
• 1:17:39
  national parks in America all the time.
• 1:17:42
  And it's like, yeah, I would believe it if it came from that.
• 1:17:45
  But it's someone guy who's like, oh, this is oh, not like I can't
• 1:17:49
  fucking quite hold my camera right even though I have no
• 1:17:52
  history of anything that would make my wrists go slim.
• 1:17:56
  No, no. It's.
• 1:17:59
  It is. It's a lot of it.
• 1:18:01
  Yeah, it's it's kind of like the footage that we have is from
• 1:18:03
  like 1969 from a bad camera man and a bad camera.
• 1:18:07
  It's like, Bill, if you just put this monkey suit on.
• 1:18:12
  Yeah. And like Bill Cutt, we can see
• 1:18:14
  her watch. But like in the not.
• 1:18:19
  Him. In the year of our large 2025
• 1:18:23
  where everybody has a fucking HD camera in their pocket and
• 1:18:29
  everyone is a cameraman and knows how to film things, knows
• 1:18:33
  all the right angles and we're not seeing.
• 1:18:36
  And there's people out there actively looking for Bigfoot and
• 1:18:38
  they're not seeing it. I took it's fiction as no right?
• 1:18:45
  OK, hang on. So I took a photography course
• 1:18:47
  in lockdown, right? And a lot of it is just like
• 1:18:51
  cameras do that shit for you these days, right?
• 1:18:55
  I believe it does exist. I do believe that there is
• 1:19:00
  probably a very reclusive species of ape or something that
• 1:19:06
  does exist and doesn't want to be found.
• 1:19:08
  Yeah. OK, like a gigantic because
• 1:19:11
  americanus is a thing like you think like that there there
• 1:19:15
  could be. I think so.
• 1:19:17
  Yeah. Giant.
• 1:19:17
  Ape out there, OK? Yeah.
• 1:19:19
  And like there's a lot of creatures.
• 1:19:20
  Like there's a lot of creatures that again, like we only
• 1:19:23
  discovered in the last 50 years because they live underground
• 1:19:25
  and things and like people hadn't witnessed them and seen
• 1:19:27
  them and they were caught. I mean, through just
• 1:19:31
  coincidence, like someone was making a wildlife documentary on
• 1:19:35
  something else. And then we're just like, what
• 1:19:36
  the fuck is this thing walking past the camera right now?
• 1:19:39
  I, I do believe that it is something there that like they
• 1:19:42
  don't want to be found. They're very reclusive, which
• 1:19:44
  is, is fine because you have species on land of like spider,
• 1:19:49
  bird, everything that are very rarely spotted.
• 1:19:53
  We know they exist, but you're not going to fucking run into
• 1:19:56
  them in your lifetime. Yeah, I think, I think that's
• 1:20:00
  the case with. With you.
• 1:20:02
  You don't think that it's a interdimensional metaphysical
• 1:20:06
  being, or that aliens might have dropped a pet from another
• 1:20:12
  planet down into it? I love that.
• 1:20:15
  And I wish. Wackier.
• 1:20:17
  Those are the wackier kind of theories behind.
• 1:20:19
  It I wish Chewie was like a real thing.
• 1:20:21
  Do you know what I mean? They all had a Chewie and it was
• 1:20:24
  just like, I, I do wish that, but no, I don't.
• 1:20:28
  I don't. You're open to believe that
• 1:20:30
  there there is a giant nape that could be out there.
• 1:20:33
  I'm I think I'm the same as you want.
• 1:20:34
  I'm open to believe that there is a reclusive Gigantopithecus
• 1:20:38
  or something. Like, you know, we've had, we
• 1:20:40
  have giant ground slots that did exist.
• 1:20:42
  We have giant apes that didn't exist.
• 1:20:45
  So like, why couldn't? And there are like.
• 1:20:48
  Be out there. Caves that giant sloth lived in,
• 1:20:52
  and obviously because they have fucking claws that they used to
• 1:20:55
  get around. Scientists have been like, Oh my
• 1:20:58
  God, like these are hieroglyphics from a fucking
• 1:21:00
  primitive person. Sloth is just like trying to get
• 1:21:03
  to my bed, like pulling himself along the road.
• 1:21:06
  Holy scraping. It's very true, OK.
• 1:21:08
  Exactly. And it's like, oh, my God, like
• 1:21:10
  this is so mysterious. Like it's not he's trying to go
• 1:21:12
  to bed. But yeah, this is where I'm kind
• 1:21:15
  of just like, I know I'm a witch.
• 1:21:17
  I am a witch but I feel like a lot of these things sciences
• 1:21:21
  science can so easily explain. Like if if there's anything that
• 1:21:25
  I've experienced, I will always look for the most logical
• 1:21:29
  scientific answer first. Right.
• 1:21:32
  And if there was a species of ape that are recursive, why is
• 1:21:37
  the footage always so blurry? Always so like fucking out of
• 1:21:41
  focus? I was whatever.
• 1:21:43
  So you're telling me that he's only been spotted when camera
• 1:21:49
  footage was so grainy that you couldn't see him?
• 1:21:52
  Like, it's Harry and Henderson's.
• 1:21:53
  It's basically a guy in a costume, which made it made me
• 1:21:57
  cry a lot. I hate that movie.
• 1:21:59
  Like, go on. Yeah.
• 1:22:00
  I don't want you anymore. I also when when my hair grows
• 1:22:07
  or when my beard goes out, I look like Harry from Harry and
• 1:22:10
  the Henders. Throws the rock at him.
• 1:22:11
  That's the most upsetting thing. No.
• 1:22:14
  But anyway, so yeah, it, it's just that kind of thing where
• 1:22:16
  it's just like there is always an explanation for something
• 1:22:19
  like 9 times out of 10 there is like I, I'll have these things
• 1:22:23
  like literally like. This coming from you is no but
• 1:22:26
  there. Is it's like and this is that's
• 1:22:28
  the pain, right this. Is the craziest thing you've
• 1:22:29
  said. No, So when I experience this
• 1:22:31
  shit is because there is no fucking proper explanation,
• 1:22:35
  right? So a lot of the times when I'm
• 1:22:37
  doing spell work and I'm using candles, that window is shut.
• 1:22:41
  I have a draft excluder. There's nothing to fucking fuck
• 1:22:43
  with it. And if it does something stupid
• 1:22:45
  like it explodes, I'm like, right, fine.
• 1:22:49
  But yeah, I think things like that where it's just like
• 1:22:53
  they're all out there, they're just not a commonly known
• 1:22:55
  species yet. Which brings us.
• 1:22:57
  Goddesses exists for a big foot of the lad in a suit.
• 1:23:00
  No I don't, but nobody is claiming to have Hecate on
• 1:23:06
  camera. Do you know what do you mean
• 1:23:08
  like walking out of a girl's sorority fucking apartment after
• 1:23:13
  she got cheated on and she just, she turns to witchcraft?
• 1:23:16
  Nobody's claiming that it's, it's things that are like in the
• 1:23:20
  physical world that it's just like, OK, well, like, do you
• 1:23:23
  have evidence of this? Like And like he appears every
• 1:23:27
  Sunday night. Like Urkel. 2nd.
• 1:23:34
  One, I want to get back to this, I'm very keen to get back to
• 1:23:37
  this one because I was really interested in what you said is
• 1:23:40
  the Loch Ness Monster being a Greenland shark.
• 1:23:43
  So serpent like creature lurking in Scotland's Loch Ness since
• 1:23:47
  the 1930s is when it's been first reported, which we've just
• 1:23:53
  we've said earlier in the episode that Greenland shark,
• 1:23:56
  the oldest Greenland shark is from the 1600s.
• 1:23:59
  He was allowed when Henry the Eighth was around.
• 1:24:02
  Yeah. So they're very.
• 1:24:03
  Possible. They reckon that Greenland
• 1:24:05
  sharks can live hundreds of years because they can conserve
• 1:24:09
  their you know. They don't really do anything,
• 1:24:11
  just. The way they live, they're
• 1:24:13
  basically, yeah. They just preserve themselves.
• 1:24:15
  They they don't move very fast. They don't need to eat a lot.
• 1:24:17
  Like it's just. I do that.
• 1:24:20
  They kind of live. At a depth where they've got no
• 1:24:22
  predators. Yeah.
• 1:24:23
  And like they're, they're kind of very much like just, they're
• 1:24:26
  more just floating furniture really.
• 1:24:29
  If you look at them like and they're massive.
• 1:24:32
  They're huge. Extremely adaptable to to their
• 1:24:36
  circumstances because they they live in like extreme cold
• 1:24:40
  waters, but they also, as you say, they're basically just like
• 1:24:44
  a fucking sofa of the sea. Like they just kind of float.
• 1:24:47
  Around them and baskin sharks. Are very.
• 1:24:50
  Yeah, there's, yeah. But Baskin sharks will get like,
• 1:24:53
  they'll get fucking active. Like they'll open the sale and
• 1:24:56
  they'll open them out and they'll get out there and
• 1:24:58
  they'll start taking in all the fucking painting and stuff like
• 1:25:00
  that. But the Greenland shark just
• 1:25:01
  seems to be kind of like if food.
• 1:25:04
  If food swims to me, I'll eat. That's.
• 1:25:06
  Greenland sharks remind me very much of like Professor
• 1:25:10
  Farnsworth, it's. Like.
• 1:25:15
  Wow. News everyone.
• 1:25:22
  Like, oh, so you're going to go catch some prey?
• 1:25:24
  Oh my, no. They're just like.
• 1:25:31
  They don't get too excited. About yeah, they're just that
• 1:25:33
  issue, just. They don't have any Professor
• 1:25:35
  Warnstroms to think about, so like.
• 1:25:37
  Warnstrom they're just basically floating rocks with heartbeats.
• 1:25:43
  But I completely get that. And like I I'm so excited about
• 1:25:47
  this because I've never even heard that like comparison until
• 1:25:50
  you told me. So I'm just like, oh holy fuck
• 1:25:52
  it could be. What's a full documentary?
• 1:25:53
  I'm. Excited because I'm just like,
• 1:25:55
  literally like, yeah, because they're so old.
• 1:25:57
  It could be so easily a green and shark and I'm like, I really
• 1:26:01
  want it because like. You think about like it could
• 1:26:04
  have been a juvenile. Yeah, like a.
• 1:26:06
  Baby that and and swim like up a fucking river into a tributary
• 1:26:11
  whatever and like just came found itself in there was.
• 1:26:14
  Once connected because land shifts like yeah.
• 1:26:18
  Yeah. But they've been known to be
• 1:26:20
  able to live in freshwater and saltwater because of a glacial.
• 1:26:26
  Like when glacier water melts and enters the sea, it's just an
• 1:26:32
  influx of fresh water into the sea.
• 1:26:34
  So like it obviously changes everything and the the salt gets
• 1:26:38
  dispersed. But the Greenland shark has
• 1:26:40
  adapted itself that it can like live in both fresh water and
• 1:26:43
  salt water. Now I could be we.
• 1:26:44
  Love a versatile king? We love it.
• 1:26:48
  Yeah, well, he knows what to do. Is the Greenland Shark 6 killed?
• 1:26:53
  They've got an extra gill as well I think.
• 1:26:54
  I'm not let. Me Google.
• 1:26:56
  That I know like there is a 7 gill shark that lives like
• 1:26:59
  really deep oh. That's.
• 1:27:01
  Like the goblin Green. Shark thing.
• 1:27:02
  Hang on. Yeah, no, the goblin goblin
• 1:27:05
  shark is isn't the same as a 7 gill shark.
• 1:27:08
  But I know I'm not sure if the the the Greenland has 6 gills
• 1:27:12
  but I'm fairly sure that's it because of its breeding
• 1:27:15
  apparatus that like it's more adaptable to the fresh wall as
• 1:27:18
  well so that there is a good chance at that.
• 1:27:20
  Greenland. Yeah.
• 1:27:21
  So that makes it kind of more adaptable and that could live in
• 1:27:25
  fresh water. So like people have have said,
• 1:27:27
  like the likes of Loch Ness, because people talk about it
• 1:27:31
  being like a humped creature and they see these humps that could
• 1:27:34
  be like an eel or an oarfish as well.
• 1:27:39
  They're like a harbinger of the apocalypse.
• 1:27:44
  Yeah, when you see one come up, they obviously like it's
• 1:27:46
  supposed to be bad. Actually, it's going to happen
• 1:27:49
  like when you see an oarfish, but I don't think an oarfish
• 1:27:51
  would. No, Loch Ness is deep enough for
• 1:27:54
  because they're like the depths, the the ocean floor kind of the
• 1:27:58
  depths, yeah. Now, Loch Ness is pretty, is
• 1:28:02
  pretty deep. And that's why people do kind of
• 1:28:05
  suggest that like something large like a fucking a whale or
• 1:28:10
  even like a plesiosaur, as they talk about, could actually get
• 1:28:14
  lost in there because I think it's between 7:50 and 900 feet
• 1:28:19
  deep. That's huge.
• 1:28:21
  See, I've never been there. You just when you hear a lake,
• 1:28:23
  you just assume I can see it from shore to shore.
• 1:28:27
  But then you look at the likes of Lake MI, which literally
• 1:28:30
  looks like the fucking sea. So yeah.
• 1:28:33
  It's like, I think 2024 miles long and at its widest it's 2
• 1:28:38
  miles wide. So like it's a, it's a body of
• 1:28:41
  water. It's a big fucking place.
• 1:28:43
  Like so like the the fact that they haven't seen anything isn't
• 1:28:48
  to say that there isn't anything down there hiding, but like
• 1:28:51
  there's a lot of like. But again, we only know 5% of
• 1:28:54
  the sea, 5% of the ocean, you know.
• 1:28:57
  They have I do believe like they did bring in a bunch of trawlers
• 1:29:01
  to run sonar in Loch Ness, but I don't think like they managed to
• 1:29:06
  really map the whole place. They could probably do it now
• 1:29:10
  easily. So there's.
• 1:29:12
  But. If you if you look into it
• 1:29:14
  right. So Greenland sharks, from what
• 1:29:16
  they've caught and studied, the youngest specimen was 272 years
• 1:29:24
  old. Youngest specimen.
• 1:29:26
  The youngest specimen and then the oldest was 512 years old.
• 1:29:32
  Oh wow, because they they said and.
• 1:29:34
  These are ones they found dead, so that's a lot.
• 1:29:39
  But they said there's living sharks that are older than
• 1:29:41
  America. Yeah.
• 1:29:43
  Even great whites live really fucking old.
• 1:29:45
  They live a lot like so I followed I I sponsored this this
• 1:29:50
  great white for ages and then my payment plan ran out.
• 1:29:54
  So I did. I did.
• 1:29:58
  Literally. I was like, you spot you can
• 1:30:00
  like do money and then they send you like, you know, camera
• 1:30:03
  footage. I do the 24 hour fast but you
• 1:30:07
  sponsor. Yeah.
• 1:30:07
  And then I just, I just, I just stopped paying for it then,
• 1:30:11
  right. So basically, and there was this
• 1:30:13
  one shark. She's female shark.
• 1:30:15
  And I think she was something like 300 lbs.
• 1:30:17
  She was like, she was big girl. She was one of the ones that you
• 1:30:22
  could sponsor, so I didn't sponsor her.
• 1:30:24
  I think big sharks are bigger than £300 I would imagine.
• 1:30:29
  I don't know, I'm probably just whatever, but she was.
• 1:30:32
  These fuckers can get like between 16 and 20 foot.
• 1:30:34
  She's like 6. Meters, I don't know.
• 1:30:37
  If that's 300, I don't know anyway. 6 meters is.
• 1:30:41
  That's 80 and foot. It's probably more than that.
• 1:30:43
  Then I'm like not. Thinking.
• 1:30:45
  But so she basically like she was one of the sharks in the
• 1:30:50
  program that you pay and like they tag these sharks and you
• 1:30:53
  can see where they are in the world or whatever.
• 1:30:56
  I tagged a shark. My subscription ended.
• 1:31:00
  It's just like, I'm not paying for this fucking shark.
• 1:31:02
  I don't care. But it made it to like the news
• 1:31:06
  that this one shark. She.
• 1:31:09
  Was found bitten in half, right? This massive fucking shark
• 1:31:18
  bitten in half and so all the scientists were just like, they
• 1:31:22
  obviously pulled her, her. Megalodon, that's what.
• 1:31:25
  I thought that's where I was like, there's that.
• 1:31:28
  No, I'm gonna. I'm gonna yell at this.
• 1:31:30
  I'm gonna be I'm. So fucking passionate about this
• 1:31:33
  right? Because I'm like fuck.
• 1:31:34
  You right you. Cannot fucking tell me that you
• 1:31:38
  know 5% of the world's oceans and you think megalodon doesn't
• 1:31:43
  exist. Fuck you.
• 1:31:45
  Like it absolutely does. Like what could bite a fucking
• 1:31:51
  18 foot shark in half like clean and half and you're telling me
• 1:31:57
  like no, it was like a boat. No was a fucking the biggest
• 1:32:02
  fucking boat and it had tooth marks.
• 1:32:05
  She was. Fucking.
• 1:32:07
  Bit into, she was bit into and I'm like, no, you can't fucking
• 1:32:12
  tell me. Like you're going down there,
• 1:32:14
  you're going deeper and deeper every couple of years, the
• 1:32:16
  Mariana Trench, whatever. And you're discovering like, Oh
• 1:32:19
  yeah, we saw this like 1 jellyfish that was just like
• 1:32:22
  covered in lights and it was about 6 feet long.
• 1:32:25
  And then we never saw it again. I'm like, and you think that
• 1:32:28
  there's no megalodon? Killing.
• 1:32:32
  Yourself. Like it's funny because for
• 1:32:34
  years, and I don't know if this, if this fella is on your list,
• 1:32:39
  but the cracking is, has been one of these.
• 1:32:42
  Yeah. So we thought about we can, we
• 1:32:44
  can skip over the cracking stuff while we talk about Loch Ness
• 1:32:46
  then, because they talk about they talk about like this
• 1:32:53
  massive creature who has taken ships down and stuff like that.
• 1:32:56
  And it could be an exaggerated version of it, but they have
• 1:32:58
  found like not only is our giant squids, I think, but they found
• 1:33:03
  these fucking colossal squids. Now they found like a markings
• 1:33:07
  on sperm whales of like suction cups from colossal squids.
• 1:33:12
  And they were like, there's no way this thing could be a
• 1:33:15
  fucking real thing. And then they wash up on shoe.
• 1:33:17
  Massive. They're like house size.
• 1:33:20
  Huge. Yeah, yeah, massive.
• 1:33:22
  Absolutely fucking enormous creatures.
• 1:33:24
  The loudest the loudest creature in the world is a sperm whale,
• 1:33:27
  by the way, just in case that there's there's your facts for.
• 1:33:29
  That when you're falling asleep to whale sounds, you're probably
• 1:33:32
  listening to two sperm whales breaking up, just so you know.
• 1:33:35
  They're more than likely they're fucking.
• 1:33:39
  That's what the sound I make as well.
• 1:33:41
  It's fine. It's OK.
• 1:33:43
  Thanks for that to say. Like, I'm not going to say that
• 1:33:49
  there isn't a Megalon megalodon or there is a megalodon out
• 1:33:52
  there, Jason. Statham was right.
• 1:33:54
  I will say that there is there is a possibility and that if if
• 1:33:58
  I was to say there isn't something like a megalodon out
• 1:34:01
  there, I wouldn't be doing myself a service to be someone
• 1:34:04
  who actually believes in the possibility of things like that.
• 1:34:07
  And I fucking. It.
• 1:34:09
  Goes back to Bigfoot though. Yeah, but that's what I'm
• 1:34:12
  saying. Like, I can't say, oh, I might
• 1:34:15
  believe that there's a fucking giant ape walking around North
• 1:34:18
  America and then not say that there is an ancient shark that's
• 1:34:23
  like three times the size of a grave.
• 1:34:25
  They. Just went deeper because
• 1:34:27
  obviously the fucking the meteors happened everything of
• 1:34:30
  the Ice Age they probably had to go deeper till.
• 1:34:33
  The Mariana Trench Mariana Trench is the deepest part of
• 1:34:36
  the oil. James Cameron went in there,
• 1:34:38
  yeah. Yeah, he found a bunch of He
• 1:34:40
  found a bunch of stuff. So I don't I don't know if
• 1:34:42
  you've watched the the Titanic sub documentary.
• 1:34:46
  Yeah, I did. Yeah, I watched.
• 1:34:47
  Insane, right? And So what one thing that I, I
• 1:34:51
  just want to bring up here on the podcast while we're talking
• 1:34:53
  about sea creatures. So there are only four, 4 crafts
• 1:34:59
  that are absolutely 100% board certified safe to go that deep.
• 1:35:06
  So James Cameron was on basically one of the first ones
• 1:35:10
  when he was filming Titanic. So when you watched that movie
• 1:35:13
  in 1997, all the footage of the the wreckage down at the bottom,
• 1:35:17
  that is all real. That is a sub that James Cameron
• 1:35:20
  actually went on to go down there and then he got obsessed
• 1:35:25
  with the sea, with submarines, things like that.
• 1:35:29
  He later went on a mission, what they call a mission.
• 1:35:33
  It was from NASA. So they brought him down to the
• 1:35:39
  Mariana trend. Down the Mariana trend.
• 1:35:41
  The deepest point and. How far did they get down there?
• 1:35:45
  Because. I don't think they got the
• 1:35:46
  bottom though. They didn't.
• 1:35:47
  They got like. No, like that's it's like 36,000
• 1:35:51
  feet it's. Deeper than that, I think like
• 1:35:54
  and I think it keep. The the pressure that is down
• 1:35:56
  there is like, yeah, unfathomable.
• 1:35:59
  I don't think any craft could. So if you look at like what I
• 1:36:02
  was saying earlier about my ex's dad, like working in the
• 1:36:05
  military and having to take bodies off of oil rigs, there
• 1:36:09
  have been cases of they've been down so far doing work and
• 1:36:15
  something will fail. And they've been sucked into
• 1:36:18
  like grown men have been sucked into pinhole sizes their entire
• 1:36:24
  bodies because the pressure is that great that they're just
• 1:36:28
  like, like that's like it's nothing.
• 1:36:31
  So it's and I mean, I think we should do a whole episode on the
• 1:36:35
  Titanic sub because that's fucking crazy.
• 1:36:38
  And how like he just. Put.
• 1:36:40
  People in danger for no reason but.
• 1:36:43
  The fact we can we can do because the Titanic itself and
• 1:36:46
  the the mysteries of the Titanic we can do like a tree parter on
• 1:36:50
  the Titanic. Absolutely finish it off with
• 1:36:52
  the Titanic sub. And I would love to have my
• 1:36:54
  friend Elise on that as well because she grew up in
• 1:36:56
  Southampton, which is the pub that it left.
• 1:36:58
  Hampton Yeah, you were. You were telling me about this.
• 1:37:00
  Yeah. So basically, the technology
• 1:37:02
  that we have today can't even go the deepest that the trench
• 1:37:07
  goes. There's no way you can fucking
• 1:37:09
  turn around and tell me, Oh yeah, that's extinct.
• 1:37:11
  That doesn't exist anymore. There isn't.
• 1:37:13
  There isn't until you have explored 100% of the ocean and
• 1:37:17
  found it. You have 95% left to prove to me
• 1:37:23
  that the megalodon isn't there. They're giant squid.
• 1:37:27
  Well, there basically. Mermaids are there.
• 1:37:30
  Basically the cracking has been found to exist, so why not the
• 1:37:33
  mega exactly? You know.
• 1:37:34
  Exactly. And they found the colossal.
• 1:37:36
  Squid so and yeah, exactly that. And it's just like you're just
• 1:37:41
  like, you can't. Like the ocean is basically
• 1:37:43
  space at this point because it's like we know more about space
• 1:37:46
  than we do with the ocean. One guy said on that Titanic
• 1:37:50
  documentary that he taught space was like his dream to go to
• 1:37:56
  space was to go into this place where this whole new world where
• 1:38:01
  you could see all these crazy things, that space is just
• 1:38:04
  fucking space. It's.
• 1:38:04
  Just infinite darkness. What I was dreaming about was
• 1:38:06
  water. You go down there and all these
• 1:38:08
  alien species live down there. That's what you see.
• 1:38:10
  That's what the cool thing. That's what you see like you
• 1:38:12
  have like a space is just infinite darkness, infinite just
• 1:38:16
  like, because look at it, right? Yes, there is.
• 1:38:18
  Obviously there's fucking life. There's other planets, there's
• 1:38:21
  other galaxies, but they're so fucking far away that you'll be
• 1:38:25
  travelling for years and years and years to get to them, right.
• 1:38:30
  So if you're going up to space, you're just basically being
• 1:38:33
  like, yeah, I'm in space, but there's nothing up here.
• 1:38:36
  The sea, fuck me, that's terrifying.
• 1:38:39
  And that's, that's things that like you can't say that if you
• 1:38:43
  pull someone aside and you were like fish or alien and you like
• 1:38:48
  held them to someone, some of these fucking fish and these sea
• 1:38:51
  creatures are just beyond anything.
• 1:38:57
  There's a there's a theory that cephalopods like octopus,
• 1:39:02
  squids, and cut cutting fish are a species that would have come
• 1:39:10
  from a comet in space. Because what they Optimus have
• 1:39:13
  like 3 hearts or something they're like.
• 1:39:16
  Yeah, like, because they're so different from anything else
• 1:39:19
  that's on the planet now, there's probably a scientist
• 1:39:21
  listening to this telling me I'm gob shaped.
• 1:39:23
  But like this is this is a theory?
• 1:39:25
  This is my least favorite podcast because.
• 1:39:32
  But at. The cephalopod I.
• 1:39:35
  Strongly. Disagree.
• 1:39:39
  There are too many. States please remove.
• 1:39:43
  No, I thought like the idea behind this one is that like the
• 1:39:47
  likes of an octopus has and they're highly intelligent
• 1:39:51
  creatures like you can do very good at like problem you see.
• 1:39:55
  Like Marine people that have them and they play like they
• 1:39:58
  throw a ball back and forward. They're like.
• 1:40:00
  Exactly. Yeah, They know how to fetch.
• 1:40:02
  They they figure out how to like open jars.
• 1:40:06
  They've like, they've put in very complex, kind of like
• 1:40:11
  assault courses. What would you call that?
• 1:40:12
  Like mazes and things like that that octopuses can go through.
• 1:40:16
  And they figured them all out and like, you know, even
• 1:40:20
  sometimes outsmart the people who create these mazes.
• 1:40:22
  Exactly and like just. To, for want of a better term,
• 1:40:25
  amazing. Just to cut you off, just to cut
• 1:40:28
  you off there for a second. I just have to say there's like
• 1:40:30
  this one girl that I follow and she like basically fought.
• 1:40:33
  She fosters animals that are basically from closed down
• 1:40:38
  aquariums and things like that. So she has her own aquarium, and
• 1:40:42
  she takes in all of these, like, creatures.
• 1:40:44
  And there's this one octopus and she loves her.
• 1:40:47
  And she calls her Julie. And she always, like when she
• 1:40:51
  walks past the tank, Julie's like, struggling to come come
• 1:40:55
  say hi. Yeah.
• 1:40:57
  And she said, like she had, she'll throw her down something
• 1:41:02
  and she'll, like, work it out like a Rubik's Cube and then
• 1:41:06
  throw it back. And then she's like, yeah.
• 1:41:09
  And then like the octopus, like claps and like.
• 1:41:14
  That's amazing. Like that's insane.
• 1:41:16
  That's. Exactly.
• 1:41:16
  And it's like people are like, Oh yeah, they're just like,
• 1:41:18
  they're fucking whatever. They don't have it.
• 1:41:20
  But it's like you look at like cows, sheep.
• 1:41:25
  If you adopt them as a pet, they become a pet.
• 1:41:28
  Like they get used to you. They like, you know what I mean?
• 1:41:31
  And like even tigers and stuff. It's it's, it's funny that.
• 1:41:34
  They, they can't really explain the intelligence of the likes of
• 1:41:37
  an octopus because they're so different from ante.
• 1:41:39
  They're so weird. Yeah, on the Earth.
• 1:41:41
  So, But like when you show like a dolphin is actually quite
• 1:41:45
  close to us when it comes to like EQ, which is like brain
• 1:41:49
  size relative to body size. They're like, they're more
• 1:41:51
  intelligent. Dolphins are more intelligent
• 1:41:54
  like. Oh, yeah, like dolphins are
• 1:41:56
  probably like, like top maybe four or five animals on the
• 1:42:02
  planet that. And it goes human pig and dog
• 1:42:05
  like pigs are like so smart. Yeah.
• 1:42:08
  So we've got like, yeah, well, you've got the great apes as
• 1:42:11
  well. So like you've got like chimps,
• 1:42:14
  orangutans and gorillas all kind of have like a real sense of
• 1:42:19
  sentience. So like they they know that they
• 1:42:22
  exist. Like, have you seen those?
• 1:42:23
  That they're not like, you know. Those videos of like doing magic
• 1:42:26
  tricks in front of like chimps and apes and stuff.
• 1:42:30
  Yeah, and they. They lose their minds because
• 1:42:32
  they're just like, what the fuck?
• 1:42:34
  But it's like they're so aware. They're they know what's
• 1:42:36
  happening, like they're aware. Go watch the video of, say,
• 1:42:42
  Robin Williams talking to a gorilla.
• 1:42:43
  Oh, I've seen that. I've seen.
• 1:42:45
  I love that. Mother of Jesus, I was.
• 1:42:48
  Sobbing. Like they all have intelligence
• 1:42:50
  pigs pigs are highly into like pigs are more intelligent than
• 1:42:55
  like working dogs, which is that blows my mind that we eat those
• 1:42:59
  things like they're so intelligent but also so tasty
• 1:43:03
  have. You ever have you ever tasted?
• 1:43:05
  Yeah, like, no, I can't say as I've tasted champion, haven't
• 1:43:13
  had the, haven't had the pleasure of Bush meat.
• 1:43:15
  I do eat like I've eaten like a lot of animals I've eaten, like
• 1:43:18
  crocodile. I've eaten a lot of hairy.
• 1:43:20
  Women that's. Danny is it?
• 1:43:26
  Is it the giddy time? No, no it's not.
• 1:43:29
  I'm going to move on because we're only two into our 20 list.
• 1:43:33
  But we haven't even. We've actually gone fucking even
• 1:43:35
  deeper. But Speaking of deep, we haven't
• 1:43:38
  really even talked about Nessie being a plesiosaur.
• 1:43:42
  It's like, so would you believe that, Nessie?
• 1:43:45
  I would believe a plesiosaur that hasn't been instinct
• 1:43:51
  extinct. I would definitely believe that.
• 1:43:54
  I am going to say I do not believe that Nessie is or ever
• 1:43:59
  was a plesiosaur. It would be wonderful if it was.
• 1:44:02
  But do you think that Nessie is a Greenland shark?
• 1:44:05
  That's just. I do believe the Greenland shark
• 1:44:08
  is probably the the best, but I think there's probably other
• 1:44:11
  kind of sightings of other things like Carrick boats or but
• 1:44:16
  do you think like seals, things like that, the.
• 1:44:18
  People Carrick boats I get right.
• 1:44:19
  Carrick boats I get, That's fine.
• 1:44:21
  But what I'm really interested in is, is I have to bring it
• 1:44:26
  back to the Greenland Shark thing because seals are so
• 1:44:29
  easily identified. Do you think that it's like, you
• 1:44:34
  know, when those like bonus levels when you're playing Sonic
• 1:44:37
  on the second Mega Drive and it's like, like, do you think
• 1:44:46
  that that's just like Greenland Shark just being like, and
• 1:44:51
  people like randomly will see it and they're like, I fucking saw
• 1:44:53
  something massive over there and then.
• 1:44:55
  Oh, I get what you're saying. Yeah.
• 1:44:57
  It's just kind of popping up in random places and they think
• 1:45:00
  it's like their homes. Yeah, yeah, I think that's more
• 1:45:04
  likely than it's a big fucking. And now that you've said that to
• 1:45:07
  me, I fully think in my head, yes, that it really does point
• 1:45:12
  to Greenland Shark. And thank you for that because
• 1:45:14
  that's like something that's always like.
• 1:45:16
  Because I know you love sharks. I think that's a kind.
• 1:45:19
  Of told me I'm just like, fuck yeah, you're you're absolutely
• 1:45:22
  right. Because it is up far north
• 1:45:25
  enough that it can kind of wander some a little bit further
• 1:45:29
  down because like if there's been PO like reports now of like
• 1:45:32
  great white sharks off the coast of fucking Kerry, which is
• 1:45:35
  terrifying because the world's heating up and they're just,
• 1:45:39
  they're just going, yeah, they're like wherever the
• 1:45:41
  carrots warm. But yeah, that makes a lot of
• 1:45:44
  sense that it could have been a Greenland shark that's just
• 1:45:46
  still there just bopping around and like, maybe hard to detect
• 1:45:53
  whatever it is. But yeah, that's I, I do think
• 1:45:57
  like. That's such a.
• 1:45:58
  Fucking possibility that I'm going to keep like researching
• 1:46:01
  this for years now. It's going to keep me awake at
• 1:46:04
  night. But no, I love that.
• 1:46:07
  Like, I, I think that's really, really cool.
• 1:46:08
  I think that's like such a good, a good thing.
• 1:46:11
  So anyway #3 out of our twent. We're, we're, we're two hours
• 1:46:17
  in, but I, I don't mind going. I don't mind going a little bit
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  Podcast, I can't do that. Oh, I was waiting on the Larry
• 1:47:51
  Murphy quote. I was waiting on Larry Murphy to
• 1:47:54
  get. Here, No, I didn't want to.
• 1:47:55
  That was too close to my home. I don't mind it being close to
• 1:47:58
  where you're living. Over Kel.
• 1:48:00
  Over Kel, right? Anyway.
• 1:48:02
  No more. Larry Murphy wasn't.
• 1:48:03
  Kids. Yeah, no, actually, that's true.
• 1:48:05
  That is true. All right #3?
• 1:48:09
  Chupacabra. So goat sucking beast from Latin
• 1:48:14
  America. Yeah.
• 1:48:16
  Rumored to drain livestock like a bloodthirsty vampire.
• 1:48:20
  Who gives a fuck about that? You're losing your sheep to
• 1:48:23
  coyotes. That's what it is.
• 1:48:26
  We don't, we don't have to go into that.
• 1:48:29
  But apparently he's like a. Well, the thing about it is.
• 1:48:32
  Just just to kind of go. Into why we we shouldn't really
• 1:48:34
  give much. Heed to the Tubacabra is because
• 1:48:39
  the the IT there's such a variance on the way people
• 1:48:42
  explain like what it is like. Some people say like it's like a
• 1:48:45
  hairless hyena. Some people say it's like a
• 1:48:47
  scaled fucking spiked kind of underworldly kind of a thing.
• 1:48:53
  Like some people say like it's a it's, it's an experiment from
• 1:48:57
  fucking NASA that that escaped. It's just a.
• 1:48:59
  Natural. Fucking predator.
• 1:49:02
  Like a Prairie dog or a coyote. Yeah, exactly.
• 1:49:05
  It's a coyote. That's exactly what it.
• 1:49:07
  Is. I'm like, you know, she's so my
• 1:49:09
  friend Mark, he's Native American.
• 1:49:12
  When we get into this, I, This is why I, I love talking about
• 1:49:17
  their shit because he's very into the stuff like I think his
• 1:49:20
  parents grew up on like like a reservation and things and we
• 1:49:25
  get cheaper copper is always just like I.
• 1:49:28
  It was a really funny like take that I heard on it that it was
• 1:49:33
  used for security scams like insurance scam.
• 1:49:38
  So basically it was like it was the Chupacabra and not just OCU
• 1:49:42
  didn't properly secure your livestock so we can't pay you.
• 1:49:46
  Out this. Yeah, like so I don't believe
• 1:49:49
  that the Chupacabra is real. Asshole.
• 1:49:51
  I just think it's like, oh, we're something that like we
• 1:49:53
  didn't plan for. We never even blah, blah, blah,
• 1:49:56
  whatever. But it's like in regards to
• 1:49:59
  insurance in the States and like Mexico and stuff, you have to
• 1:50:04
  have like a certain level of security around your livestock
• 1:50:09
  to ensure that it doesn't get picked off.
• 1:50:11
  Otherwise you're just asking the fucking government for your
• 1:50:16
  recklessness. Do you know what I mean?
• 1:50:18
  Like because it's like, my sister has chickens.
• 1:50:21
  She constantly would have like a fox that would get in and pick
• 1:50:25
  off the chickens. So it's like, well, you didn't
• 1:50:27
  take every single measure possible to ensure that the fox
• 1:50:31
  didn't get in. Yeah, yeah, yeah.
• 1:50:33
  So that's your problem. So yeah, I don't believe that
• 1:50:36
  that's real at all. I think that was just like, but
• 1:50:38
  no, it was a man that had this. I think it's just a very much
• 1:50:42
  like a made-up kind of scam. Yeah, I think there's probably
• 1:50:48
  some kind of old tales again from like these creatures, Like
• 1:50:54
  we have them over here as well, like where there's these like
• 1:50:56
  creatures that will do whatever, you know.
• 1:50:58
  The fairies like the share, yeah.
• 1:51:01
  All the fairies, yeah. So like, I think those kind of
• 1:51:04
  things kind of do kind of snowball.
• 1:51:06
  And then after a while there is like, oh, there's the Tubacabra
• 1:51:10
  as a thing. And then someone shows footage
• 1:51:12
  of this weird looking fucking creature and yeah, you know,
• 1:51:16
  like people like the tall tales kind of expand and get taller.
• 1:51:20
  But I do believe that like the Chupacabra.
• 1:51:23
  It's a coyote like there could. Be something down there I'm not
• 1:51:26
  going to give much heat. To it, no, I don't think I don't
• 1:51:29
  think the chupacabra is real. I I think he's a coyote used as
• 1:51:32
  an insurance scam. Honestly, next one Mothman.
• 1:51:39
  I love it, right? So love it, love it.
• 1:51:42
  Fucking love it 'cause this one has lower.
• 1:51:44
  Exactly. This one isn't just like, oh,
• 1:51:46
  there's some creature out there. This one has some fucking.
• 1:51:48
  So you know more about this, so I'll give it to you.
• 1:51:50
  But what I will say, I'll just go into the the very kind of
• 1:51:54
  brief, so Mothman red eyed winged humanoid spotted before
• 1:52:01
  disasters. So like the 1967 bridge
• 1:52:05
  collapse, people seem to think that he's a harbinger of while
• 1:52:11
  he never did anything wrong, he has been quote UN quote spotted
• 1:52:16
  at moments of disaster, just before moments of disaster.
• 1:52:23
  And that's been happening a lot for like a few years.
• 1:52:27
  There was like a pretty bad like train crash like accident that
• 1:52:31
  he was like on the power lines before.
• 1:52:36
  Weirdly he was linked to 1 of Ramirez's murders, which is a
• 1:52:43
  little little call back from a previous episode, but apparently
• 1:52:47
  he appeared umm before Ramirez had taken a girl hostage.
• 1:52:52
  Apparently one of the neighbors had seen him and.
• 1:52:54
  Then Ramirez did dress in all black and was seen to have,
• 1:52:58
  like, devilish eyes and things. Yeah, but this?
• 1:53:00
  So the Mothman's thing was the the glowing red eyes was.
• 1:53:05
  Glowing red eyes and wings, yeah, kind of do.
• 1:53:07
  Kind of set them apart from everything else, yeah.
• 1:53:09
  So there was no like, harm to him, there was no like murder,
• 1:53:12
  nothing like that. It was just kind of, umm, I
• 1:53:17
  guess you could call him like an omen, like a black omen.
• 1:53:21
  Yeah. And so like when he when it
• 1:53:23
  started off with this like, again, I don't know, like loads
• 1:53:25
  like this. I just love like the the actual
• 1:53:27
  kind of the the origin of it like would have been like the
• 1:53:33
  first few stories. There's like a couple of stories
• 1:53:35
  where like couples would have seen this, this massive kind of
• 1:53:39
  figure that like, I think it ranges from like some people
• 1:53:43
  would say like 8 feet tall, some people say like 12 foot tall.
• 1:53:46
  Yeah. Like this massive kind of.
• 1:53:49
  We can. We can go back to.
• 1:53:50
  The all to. The Bigfoot scaling here, like
• 1:53:53
  just an inhuman size height. Yeah, yeah.
• 1:53:58
  Well, where they would say like a human like figure that is just
• 1:54:03
  massive with glowing red eyes and massive wings.
• 1:54:06
  And the first kind of sightings of this guy would have been from
• 1:54:10
  like couples that would have been, you know, out on whatever
• 1:54:14
  the fucking. Make.
• 1:54:16
  Out finger me or whatever they go you know yeah whatever
• 1:54:20
  couples go you know fucking blowjob points but like.
• 1:54:26
  Danger, danger. My hooks are flailing wildly.
• 1:54:33
  Danger Will Robinson. It's the, It's the kind of like
• 1:54:39
  they're out in the wilderness and they they get spooked by
• 1:54:41
  something and then they see that there's something following them
• 1:54:44
  and it's this hulking fucking figure and the thing can now.
• 1:54:49
  That would be me as a kid though.
• 1:54:51
  I'd be like, the Mothman will get you just to just to keep my
• 1:54:55
  kid from having sex with the longest possible time.
• 1:54:59
  I'm like, don't go up that lane. That's where the Mothman is
• 1:55:03
  like, oh. Make out Creek I.
• 1:55:07
  Saw the Mothman there one time I.
• 1:55:11
  Went. To the freezer.
• 1:55:12
  It's not because my Bill and Jerry is in there.
• 1:55:14
  It's because the Mothman. I would be the Catholic Church.
• 1:55:17
  I'd be like, don't go up there and have sex because you'll die,
• 1:55:23
  your vagina will fall off and then you'll be no good to
• 1:55:26
  anyone. Yeah, it was.
• 1:55:29
  I think it was only after the bridge incident that people sat
• 1:55:33
  kind of thinking of them as sorry just to to skip them all
• 1:55:36
  for your your. Catholic Church.
• 1:55:38
  That just makes me think it's like, you know, the guy in The
• 1:55:41
  Simpsons, like hello, fly boy, get out.
• 1:55:45
  I I stayed all night. I am my underwear.
• 1:55:51
  I stayed about like dying my underwear.
• 1:55:54
  Like, do you imagine it's like a genuine vigilante?
• 1:55:58
  That's like, I'm gonna take on a superhero costume to tell people
• 1:56:01
  about this bridge accident? And then people are like, demon,
• 1:56:06
  like, fucking folklore. And you're just like, yeah.
• 1:56:11
  But like again it it calls back to the fact that he only ever
• 1:56:14
  seemed to appear before moments of tragedy and disaster.
• 1:56:18
  Yeah. So people don't really talk
• 1:56:19
  about this guy. Like they talk about like, you
• 1:56:21
  know, come back some of the these other kind of malevolent,
• 1:56:25
  these other kind of malevolent creatures that kind of come
• 1:56:28
  along and eat your sheep or, you know, kill people or hurt people
• 1:56:32
  or whatever. They kind of just say like this.
• 1:56:34
  He's been seen at these kind of things like so as you say.
• 1:56:37
  He's always been there, yeah. So when there's big, like
• 1:56:41
  massive disasters, he kind of seems to be around.
• 1:56:44
  So it's like. It's a very interesting kind of
• 1:56:46
  stuff. I feel like Superman.
• 1:56:48
  It's just like, oh, I'm trying to get a story on this fucking
• 1:56:51
  horrific traffic pile up, but where the fuck is Clark?
• 1:56:55
  Like it's just like Clark it. Would be like if Superman was
• 1:57:00
  never Superman and he was just clacking so he had the powers of
• 1:57:03
  Superman but he just flew there to look.
• 1:57:05
  Exactly. And it's like, where the fuck is
• 1:57:07
  Clark? Anytime anything happened, like,
• 1:57:11
  oh, this Mothman always seems to be present and all of these like
• 1:57:15
  horrible things like, well, so does Clark.
• 1:57:18
  Where the fuck is Clark? But yeah, I know.
• 1:57:21
  Moving on. Well, hold on, what do you what
• 1:57:23
  do you think about the Mothman? I love the Mothman.
• 1:57:25
  I would fuck the Mothman. Well, like, do you believe that
• 1:57:27
  there could be a big hulking winged red eyed creature flying?
• 1:57:34
  Around no, I think I believe that there is probably like a
• 1:57:40
  like, what's that, that paedophile woman and her child
• 1:57:45
  son. Paedophile woman and that child
• 1:57:47
  son. What's her Sam Johnson Aaron
• 1:57:50
  Taylor Johnson Kick ass I. Oh, yeah.
• 1:57:53
  Sorry. Yeah, yeah.
• 1:57:54
  I believe it might be a kick ass kind of situation.
• 1:57:58
  I don't believe anything paranormal.
• 1:58:00
  I think. Yes, I don't think.
• 1:58:02
  That it's hilarious that you are like.
• 1:58:04
  Who is that she? Is a paedophile.
• 1:58:06
  And you wanted to get you wanted.
• 1:58:08
  To get the kick ass as well I find.
• 1:58:12
  Because I know she like, yeah, Anyway, so yeah, by the way, if
• 1:58:16
  you, we can do a whole episode on the fact that she is 23 years
• 1:58:20
  older than her boyfriend. And she's, she was best friends
• 1:58:26
  with his parents. So she went to see him and she
• 1:58:30
  played with him when he was a fucking baby, which is
• 1:58:34
  disgusting. She scofielded him, she did.
• 1:58:37
  Not even that though, I think 23.
• 1:58:40
  It's worse than Scofield. It is.
• 1:58:41
  It is. Yeah.
• 1:58:42
  And people like don't, it's not a big deal because she's like a
• 1:58:45
  woman. That's what it is.
• 1:58:47
  We can do a whole episode. I'm fucking Sam Taylor, Johnson
• 1:58:50
  and I. We're probably not.
• 1:58:53
  We're not going to but fuck that cunt.
• 1:58:56
  Like honestly. We spent we spent two hours and
• 1:58:59
  15. Minutes and we haven't even got
• 1:59:01
  past Mothman yet, so I. There's been like where I Aaron
• 1:59:05
  Aaron Taylor Johnson has me blocked on Instagram and.
• 1:59:10
  What sentence is that? He has he blocked, he blocked or
• 1:59:17
  he blocked me on Instagram because generally he was in
• 1:59:21
  Nosferatu. Yeah.
• 1:59:23
  And he posted a picture of him and Bill Skarsgard as Nosferatu.
• 1:59:28
  And I was like, so nice of you to bring your wife to the
• 1:59:31
  premiere and. Fucking hell, Danny.
• 1:59:36
  Jesus Christ. No regrets, no regrets.
• 1:59:44
  We were talking earlier on in this podcast about shouldn't be
• 1:59:47
  negative. She's a You're on.
• 1:59:50
  Instagram just commenting. Because she's a beautiful.
• 1:59:53
  I don't. Care.
• 1:59:56
  I don't care. Anyway, whatever #5 on this
• 1:59:59
  list, Sam Taylor Johnson. Almost forgot to herself.
• 2:00:09
  Fucking. She's.
• 2:00:11
  Rotten. As well.
• 2:00:12
  Like so she posted a picture of him on his birthday right like 2
• 2:00:18
  weeks ago and they were? His 12th birthday in the bath.
• 2:00:22
  Legit like and they were playing cards right.
• 2:00:29
  I was going to say I'm not proud of this.
• 2:00:30
  I'm very proud of this. But she posted the picture and
• 2:00:35
  like it was of him across the table.
• 2:00:37
  His shirt was all unbuttoned and like he was gorgeous.
• 2:00:40
  And this like candlelight playing cards with her.
• 2:00:43
  And she posted like happy birthday Mia, more like whatever
• 2:00:47
  the fuck. And then that song was like, you
• 2:00:49
  know that horny French song like fucking.
• 2:00:52
  And it's like, and that's the song.
• 2:00:59
  And then I comment and I was like, are you guys playing
• 2:01:04
  cards? Because that was the only game
• 2:01:06
  around when you were born you fucking pedo hag.
• 2:01:11
  And you were wondering why you might be blocked from?
• 2:01:16
  Sorry, I'm blocked by Aaron Taylor Johnson and his wife.
• 2:01:21
  Flash carer What's number? 5 on this new study.
• 2:01:25
  Jersey Devil Hooved Winged. Obviously it's a winger, Winged,
• 2:01:30
  whatever you want to say. Hooved Wing Encrypted from the
• 2:01:34
  Pine Barrens. When I think of the Pine
• 2:01:37
  Barrens, I just think of Polly. It's only Sopranos, yeah.
• 2:01:41
  It. Is it's only Polly and.
• 2:01:43
  Christopher. Christopher.
• 2:01:46
  Christopher. His house look like shit.
• 2:01:52
  It was. It was.
• 2:01:52
  There was an interior decorator. Really.
• 2:01:55
  His house looked like shit. He.
• 2:01:57
  Was with the interior. Yeah, he.
• 2:02:00
  Was he was with the interior? He was an interior.
• 2:02:02
  Decorator. Like that again, that's another
• 2:02:04
  that's a plot hole and Soprano I thought I never got a
• 2:02:07
  satisfaction on because he disappeared and the Russian was
• 2:02:10
  like hiding up in the trees. They never found him and then
• 2:02:13
  they never went back to him and fuck you.
• 2:02:16
  I'm not saying spoiler alert because this show is like
• 2:02:18
  fucking 25 years old anyway. He.
• 2:02:21
  Just went back to his home planet.
• 2:02:22
  Who'd wing Encrypted from the pine barns of New Jersey,
• 2:02:27
  Allegedly cursed from birth. Chaos gremlin.
• 2:02:31
  But if you watch what we do in the shadows, he loves Bon Jovi.
• 2:02:36
  Yeah. He loves Bon Jovi.
• 2:02:42
  The story from this, correct me if I'm wrong, there was a woman
• 2:02:46
  living in New Jersey, had 12 kids.
• 2:02:49
  The 13th kid was coming out and she was like, I can't have any
• 2:02:54
  more kids. I'm absolutely I'm fucked and I
• 2:02:57
  can't. Even feel this one, my pelvis is
• 2:03:00
  gone. But she cursed the child upon
• 2:03:03
  birth. Imagine that I can't keep my.
• 2:03:05
  Legs. Closed, but it's your fucking
• 2:03:07
  fault. Yeah, but maybe the maybe her
• 2:03:12
  husband was a kind of a Randy fella.
• 2:03:14
  You know, I'm going to like, this is one thing that I have to
• 2:03:16
  put in here, I think, right? If you're a child that's been
• 2:03:21
  born of no orgasm, you're going to just be a horrible person.
• 2:03:27
  I think that's the thing. Anyway.
• 2:03:29
  Go on. So you think?
• 2:03:32
  I know my mom squirted ribbons when I was conceived.
• 2:03:36
  Not the rest of them because they're all Dick heads.
• 2:03:38
  But anyway, go on. If if there was no orgasm,
• 2:03:41
  you're going to be born and child.
• 2:03:43
  Is that what you're saying? I think because having an orgasm
• 2:03:46
  for a woman is the closest you get to spirit while you're still
• 2:03:49
  alive. And I think when you don't do
• 2:03:51
  that, it's just like, Oh yeah, you can probably fucking put him
• 2:03:55
  in a bag and throw him in the river like people used to.
• 2:03:57
  Kittens. I think, yeah, we have an
• 2:04:01
  orgasm. They go on to do something.
• 2:04:04
  Fantastic theory, yeah. And again, if you're not sure,
• 2:04:08
  please go ask your mother if she had an orgasm while she was
• 2:04:12
  conceiving it. I would like to know there's.
• 2:04:14
  Probably not a lot of. People there's.
• 2:04:16
  Probably a lot of people going to have that conversation with
• 2:04:18
  their L1. I would, I'd be like, man, did
• 2:04:21
  you come? He was being conceived.
• 2:04:23
  My dad nodded and he was so based.
• 2:04:26
  Did you? Come and was it?
• 2:04:30
  I don't know what base means. That's what the kids.
• 2:04:32
  Say today. That's what the kids are saying.
• 2:04:35
  I have no, no cap. I have, I have no.
• 2:04:37
  Idea. My niece, who is 18 years old,
• 2:04:40
  listens to this and yeah, there's so many things that I
• 2:04:44
  don't know the meaning of, so I'm sure she'll tell me if I got
• 2:04:47
  it wrong. Yeah, but anyway.
• 2:04:49
  Let us know answers on the postmark.
• 2:04:50
  Jersey Devil. Yeah, so the Jersey Devil is a
• 2:04:53
  little devil that is going around Jersey and does he do
• 2:04:56
  anything? Does he life?
• 2:04:57
  Does he fuck anything up? Does he?
• 2:04:59
  No. I think he just is in the forest
• 2:05:02
  and he freaks people out and listens to Bon Jovi.
• 2:05:05
  Yeah, I don't really hear anything.
• 2:05:07
  Yeah, I don't really hear anything that he's just out
• 2:05:11
  there living on a prayer. Exactly like Tommy and Gina used
• 2:05:14
  to work on the docks. I'm pretty sure he knows Tommy
• 2:05:16
  and Gina. Tommy used to work on the docks.
• 2:05:20
  Well, Gina's like fighting for her love.
• 2:05:23
  Like she's. She's not.
• 2:05:25
  She's not working on a diner. Yeah, she's working on a diner
• 2:05:28
  all day fighting her love. It's OK.
• 2:05:33
  I think the Jersey Devil is just their larger roommate that have
• 2:05:41
  to take in because they can't make their you.
• 2:05:46
  Know what? It makes as much sense as any.
• 2:05:51
  Other #6 the Yeti, we've always, we've already talked about him
• 2:05:55
  as just white Bigfoot. Yeah, he just said white
• 2:05:58
  Bigfoot. Just colonial Bigfoot.
• 2:06:00
  Colonial Blackfoot, we don't need to get into that.
• 2:06:02
  That's just basically Bigfoot at colder temperatures, higher
• 2:06:05
  altitudes, yeah. Although I have done the
• 2:06:08
  expedition Yeti in in Disney World and it's a fucking
• 2:06:12
  fantastic role. You know what, right?
• 2:06:14
  I suggest that. One of my favorite characters in
• 2:06:17
  Monsters, I think is the Yeti. Yeah.
• 2:06:19
  When is it? Mike who gets.
• 2:06:21
  I haven't watched it in years. Sully.
• 2:06:24
  It's banished. I think it's Sully.
• 2:06:27
  They. Yes, Sully, definitely.
• 2:06:30
  I think the two of them get banished.
• 2:06:31
  Well, they get. Banished And then I it's all
• 2:06:33
  just like they can't see anything because it's all snow
• 2:06:36
  and then they see this big thing coming towards them.
• 2:06:38
  Anything welcome? And I'm like he does.
• 2:06:45
  Voices in every Pixar. Movie.
• 2:06:46
  Every fucking movie and I love him.
• 2:06:49
  He's the best and like he'll do like a villain at 1:00.
• 2:06:52
  OK, hold on. Let me try a name.
• 2:06:53
  Right. In Toy Story, he's ham.
• 2:06:57
  Yes. In In A Bug's Life, he is the
• 2:07:02
  the ringmaster, the flea from the circus in.
• 2:07:10
  My childhood. In cars, he's the truck.
• 2:07:13
  I've only seen Mac. I've.
• 2:07:14
  Only seen cars once but yeah. Isn't he the school of fish in
• 2:07:20
  Finding Nemo as well? He's the school of fish in Yeah,
• 2:07:23
  yeah, in Finding Nemo. He's the school of fish.
• 2:07:25
  Fucking very good. Very good.
• 2:07:28
  Yeah, I can't. Fucking trying to remember what
• 2:07:31
  other movies? It's just, it's just downgraded.
• 2:07:40
  Now it was naming people from this.
• 2:07:43
  Athens. In UP, he's the builder that
• 2:07:45
  he's the builder that gets hit with a walking stick in UP.
• 2:07:49
  To be fair I've only seen up like twice so.
• 2:07:52
  Oh, the first 10 minutes of up is the most upsetting thing
• 2:07:55
  you'll ever watch in your life. I know, I know, I've seen that
• 2:07:58
  and I know that, but yeah. But there's a builder that kind
• 2:08:02
  of has to come and give him the bad news, and the outlet beats
• 2:08:04
  him with a walking stick. I don't.
• 2:08:08
  No. Yeah, what are Pixar movies?
• 2:08:11
  Oh. He's done a bond like not even
• 2:08:13
  Pixar. But anyways, he's the he's the
• 2:08:15
  mailman from. Cheers.
• 2:08:17
  I love him, he's like the best. OK, next one.
• 2:08:22
  What's #7 on your list? All right, I don't know how to
• 2:08:28
  pronounce this. Bunyip, Bunyip, bunyip.
• 2:08:33
  So this this is an Australian swamp monster.
• 2:08:38
  Yeah, I think. Yeah, yeah, I've heard of this.
• 2:08:41
  Australian swamp monster with her horrifying scream said to
• 2:08:48
  lurk in billabongs. All of this.
• 2:08:50
  Is so Australian. I'm just like, these aren't
• 2:08:53
  words. I don't call them.
• 2:08:58
  Cheers. Was it?
• 2:09:00
  But yeah, Australians 1 monster with a horrifying scream said to
• 2:09:03
  lurk in billabongs and they were trespassers.
• 2:09:08
  I've never heard this before. What's that skip kids?
• 2:09:11
  That trip down to Billabong? I don't call them.
• 2:09:14
  Cheers. Was it?
• 2:09:16
  What's that mates? What's the word?
• 2:09:19
  Mr. Prime Minister ND in Springfield.
• 2:09:31
  The next half an hour of this podcast is going to be Danny
• 2:09:35
  reciting that one Australian episode of the.
• 2:09:39
  Simpsons. Is annoyed.
• 2:09:43
  No, I'm going. I'm going to skip.
• 2:09:45
  Past that. I'm going to skip past the
• 2:09:48
  bunyip because we don't know what the fuck that is and
• 2:09:51
  frankly whatever, because the next thing is is is good and the
• 2:09:57
  next thing is entertaining. Skinwalkers.
• 2:10:00
  Navajo legend. So my one of best friends, Mark.
• 2:10:04
  Shout out he. Doesn't listen to this, but so
• 2:10:08
  he is black native and Hispanic so I can't make any racist jokes
• 2:10:13
  around him. That's what I end up making all
• 2:10:17
  of them because he sends he keeps trying to get me to say
• 2:10:20
  the N words. So I'm like I'm going to I'm
• 2:10:22
  going to keep those cards that you sent me until my deathbed
• 2:10:26
  and when I'm lying dead, I said goodbye to all my family.
• 2:10:29
  I'm going to be like. N words.
• 2:10:34
  So basically seeing where it's not a whole legend of witches
• 2:10:37
  that can shape shift into animals.
• 2:10:39
  Extremely spooky and not to be messed with.
• 2:10:42
  So I very much believe in skinwalkers and a lot of people
• 2:10:49
  don't. A lot of people are very
• 2:10:51
  disrespectful of them. They go like in search of them
• 2:10:57
  and then they end up getting fucked up.
• 2:10:59
  So I have a few friends that have grown up.
• 2:11:02
  It's mostly the Appalachian Mountains and stuff that they
• 2:11:05
  are said to frequent. Appalachian Mountains are like,
• 2:11:10
  I don't know if we got to talk with the Appalachian Mountains
• 2:11:14
  in. We did, but I think it got
• 2:11:15
  deleted, yeah. But yeah, it's like they're the
• 2:11:18
  most, like they're older than Earth, the land that they're on.
• 2:11:23
  Yeah, which is crazy. They're.
• 2:11:25
  Actually, they're. Attached to the Highlands of
• 2:11:28
  Scotland. Yeah, the Highlands of Scotland.
• 2:11:32
  Like where? Where?
• 2:11:33
  When Pangeaea broke away, those mountains already existed.
• 2:11:37
  So like they're so the mountains are so old that they're older
• 2:11:41
  than the landmass that they're actually on.
• 2:11:43
  So like. They're yeah, it's like.
• 2:11:48
  That's what And there's so much weird stuff in the Appalachian
• 2:11:50
  Mountains and that people talk about, and I think skinwalkers
• 2:11:54
  are probably like the weirdest of them.
• 2:11:56
  What I. Find really funny about
• 2:11:57
  Skinwalkers is that people who are aware of them and who have
• 2:12:03
  grown up knowing about them are so calm and they know what to do
• 2:12:08
  and they know what not to do. That they're just an it's the
• 2:12:11
  fact that they're a part of everyday life for a lot of
• 2:12:15
  people in that area is the most terrifying to me because it's
• 2:12:19
  like, it's completely fucking different.
• 2:12:21
  If you go to a foreign country and you're like, I don't know
• 2:12:24
  how these plugs work. If you go to a foreign country
• 2:12:27
  and say Oh yeah so there are literal fucking demons outside,
• 2:12:31
  not a big deal, but just close your curtains and if you hear
• 2:12:34
  someone whistle you didn't goodnight.
• 2:12:37
  Yeah, so like the the locals, the locals believe these skin
• 2:12:42
  walkers are factual. They're actual things.
• 2:12:45
  They're beings that that that hang around.
• 2:12:48
  They are malevolent. But if you leave them alone,
• 2:12:50
  they'll leave you alone. They won't come finding you.
• 2:12:52
  But there is a lot of people that will like the Skinwalker
• 2:12:56
  Ranch has kind of really popularized, like people going
• 2:13:02
  to find out what's going on, like the shape shifting beings
• 2:13:06
  and like cows being fucking mutilated, stuff like that.
• 2:13:09
  Like they're trying to figure out.
• 2:13:11
  Navajo creatures. So if all of these things are
• 2:13:16
  happening, it should be Native Americans that go and try to
• 2:13:20
  find this out. And that's when people end up in
• 2:13:23
  trouble because it's like it's not their culture.
• 2:13:26
  It's not white man the. White man.
• 2:13:28
  When the white man comes legit, it's always trouble.
• 2:13:31
  But that's, that's exactly it. And it's like, that's why people
• 2:13:34
  always say like whatever. And there are like a bunch of
• 2:13:36
  like fucking. So Mark was telling me they're
• 2:13:38
  like, you can get like an Airbnb on like a Navajo resort as
• 2:13:43
  gorgeous because like you're there and you have the fucking
• 2:13:45
  Grand Canyon is your background or you know, whatever.
• 2:13:49
  But they always say like, and they have these like little
• 2:13:52
  notepads and stuff like as in like if you want to call room
• 2:13:57
  service, you press blah, blah, blah.
• 2:13:58
  But they have like, hey, don't fucking whistle.
• 2:14:03
  If you whistle or if you hear someone whistling, if you hear a
• 2:14:06
  voice that you know outside, that's not anyone that you know,
• 2:14:11
  that's whatever. Don't respond to them, don't
• 2:14:14
  walk towards them, don't acknowledge the.
• 2:14:16
  Shit, that's the thing. And like there's been people
• 2:14:19
  like that. I've, I, I follow on TikTok and
• 2:14:22
  stuff and they've grown up in the Appalachian Mountains all
• 2:14:25
  their lives and they've done these videos and it's like,
• 2:14:28
  well, I'm not like a fucking fake ass because it's not like
• 2:14:32
  it happens every fucking day. But what you're led to believe
• 2:14:36
  is if like this is pretty true, like even if you live in a
• 2:14:39
  fucking apartment building, if you're just doing whatever in
• 2:14:42
  your building and you know that you're alone in your own space
• 2:14:47
  and you hear whistling like you absolutely didn't, and you might
• 2:14:51
  hear your name called, don't acknowledge it.
• 2:14:54
  Nothing. If you're not expecting anyone
• 2:14:57
  to visit you or to be in your space, you didn't hear anything.
• 2:15:02
  You think skinwalkers are hanging around your apartment
• 2:15:04
  building? Not now, like, not me, but I
• 2:15:06
  just mean like, do you know what I mean?
• 2:15:08
  That's how they kind of live their lives.
• 2:15:11
  You think like? Any any otherworldly being could
• 2:15:14
  be hanging around or doing nefarious and the.
• 2:15:18
  Weirdest thing is whistling is it always seems to be, it always
• 2:15:24
  seems to play into a lot of the otherworldly things.
• 2:15:28
  So I can't whistle right. I actually like if I go, yeah,
• 2:15:35
  I, I, I can't whistle right. Thanks for trying.
• 2:15:39
  I did try, but AP apparently someone who can like whistle a
• 2:15:48
  tune. That's terrifying.
• 2:15:51
  I knew a guy who who could barely I used to like work on on
• 2:15:57
  Saturdays with my father and we'd be Taran laying tar because
• 2:16:04
  that's the kind of folk we are. And there was a truck driver he
• 2:16:09
  used to come and his name, his, his nickname was Cricky.
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  His actual name was Christy. But they call him Cricky because
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  the way he spoke, he spoke very fast and it was kind of
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  unintelligible. And he told me that all the
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  time. You never know what he was
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  saying because he's always telling me fast.
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  But he only. Told me this and you couldn't
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  even. Somebody was saying but.
• 2:16:27
  When that man whistled, Yeah. He started whistling, and when I
• 2:16:32
  say he sounded like a bird whistling, it was the most
• 2:16:36
  beautiful sound that you could hear coming out of the human
• 2:16:39
  mouth, and this man couldn't fucking string a sentence
• 2:16:42
  together, but the whistling was absolutely fucking divine.
• 2:16:46
  Whistling. Do you think he's underworlding?
• 2:16:49
  Probably whistling is like a massive thing that's like
• 2:16:52
  basically like so people who can like whistle a tune and whistle
• 2:16:58
  like a proper fucking song. Tune by tune is seen as demonic
• 2:17:03
  and is seen as evil and Craig. He was a lovely lad though,
• 2:17:06
  yeah. He probably had fucking kids in
• 2:17:09
  his basement or something but like.
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  Fuck. The whistling that like a lot of
• 2:17:16
  people like. So I again, I have a lot of
• 2:17:19
  friends from America who've like obviously been like camping in
• 2:17:23
  the Adirondacks and stuff. So that's basically it's the New
• 2:17:27
  York Pine Barrens. Then the Pine Barrens is the New
• 2:17:30
  Jersey part. It's it's all a fucking mush and
• 2:17:33
  they hate each other, whatever. But the whistling is a fucking
• 2:17:38
  massive thing and it's like. Hear you when you hear whistling
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  out in the forest, and that's an indication that there's
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  something evil out there. It's not even because it's not
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  even like someone's walking. It's like a I can't, I can't
• 2:17:53
  whistle. Can you do that?
• 2:17:54
  Yeah. No, but like if you if you go.
• 2:17:58
  It's there, yeah. Yeah, like Kill Bill, but it's
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  like. Yeah, I get it.
• 2:18:02
  I get. It and like that's the thing and
• 2:18:04
  that will just. This has to be really annoying
• 2:18:05
  to anyone who is listening to guys and now always sorry well.
• 2:18:10
  Like dude. Like honestly, like do that
• 2:18:11
  again. Like just go like, yeah, that's
• 2:18:17
  it, right? And that's, that's the thing
• 2:18:19
  that you hear. So if you're out in the middle
• 2:18:21
  of fucking pine barns on your own or you're with your friends
• 2:18:25
  and you're camping, whatever, and you hear that fucking thing,
• 2:18:30
  you're just kind of like, what the fuck?
• 2:18:32
  There's no one there. And so one of my friends had
• 2:18:35
  told me before, so he was out camping and they did this every
• 2:18:38
  summer. Nothing had ever happened.
• 2:18:41
  Obviously, like in America it stays hot until like it's always
• 2:18:45
  hot. Like so they just didn't sleep.
• 2:18:46
  They'd go out and they'd have like their bonfire, yadda yadda.
• 2:18:51
  And he was, his name was Shane. He was sleeping.
• 2:18:56
  They were all sleeping. And then he heard that I can't
• 2:19:00
  recreate it if I do it now. I was like, so he heard the you
• 2:19:04
  do it. So he heard the exactly so.
• 2:19:08
  Just. No, I'm gonna, I'm gonna point
• 2:19:11
  at you. I'm gonna point at you when he
• 2:19:14
  when he hears it again. So it's like we're we're
• 2:19:16
  involving the listener. But yeah, so he, he kept hearing
• 2:19:21
  that and he was like. Like we're in the.
• 2:19:23
  Fucking middle of nowhere in the pine barns.
• 2:19:25
  He's like, there's no way. There's like a bunch of people
• 2:19:27
  because he's like, if there was, we would have heard it because
• 2:19:30
  there had been like bonfires out the way, like a few miles, like
• 2:19:36
  there's a bunch of people at the time.
• 2:19:39
  And so he was just like, right, whatever.
• 2:19:42
  And like I'm up, I'm just going to walk around.
• 2:19:44
  I think he like smoked a joint or two and then he went down
• 2:19:48
  like right to the rubber surface.
• 2:19:50
  He said he heard and he was like, Nah, fuck that.
• 2:19:56
  He's like, that's I'm going mental.
• 2:19:58
  So he went right down. He was like splashing water on
• 2:20:01
  his face at one point. He just like.
• 2:20:04
  Dunked his whole head in the water and was just like right
• 2:20:08
  fine, I'm OK, I'm just really fucking high.
• 2:20:10
  And then he heard and he looked up and there was there was 2.
• 2:20:17
  Dudes. On a boat right in front of him
• 2:20:22
  and he couldn't see their faces. He could just see these two guys
• 2:20:27
  that had like seemingly rode like their way into exactly
• 2:20:34
  where he was. And he literally just stumbled
• 2:20:38
  backwards and ran the fuck away. But yeah, there's a lot of,
• 2:20:44
  like, I don't, I don't necessarily believe in the
• 2:20:48
  Jersey Devil, but I do believe that there's a lot of fucking
• 2:20:52
  weird shit out in the Pine Barrens.
• 2:20:55
  That skinwalkers could be an actual thing.
• 2:20:57
  Absolutely skinwalkers, the Jersey Devil, absolutely.
• 2:21:02
  Like there's just a lot of shit that like we don't cover every
• 2:21:06
  fucking square meter of it on our day-to-day life.
• 2:21:09
  And I don't think we should. I think a lot of it is like, I'm
• 2:21:12
  like, if you, if you look in America, it's a very new
• 2:21:16
  country. It's like what, less than 500
• 2:21:18
  years old? It's a new country, but it's
• 2:21:19
  very old land. Exactly.
• 2:21:21
  That's the thing. And that's so like, a lot of
• 2:21:23
  stuff is undiscovered there. Yeah, But a lot of people, a lot
• 2:21:27
  of a lot of people after coming in very recently and disturbing
• 2:21:31
  this old land. Exactly.
• 2:21:33
  And like you look at like Native Americans and stuff, they've
• 2:21:36
  worshipped and praised gods for fucking millennia that that
• 2:21:42
  world is a lot older new thing. And it's not just like the
• 2:21:49
  Navajo fucking tribe or whatever.
• 2:21:52
  Like, yes, they're here now and they're like praising this land
• 2:21:56
  and whatever. Like fucking Alexander Hamilton,
• 2:22:00
  Lin Manuel Miranda, basically like just ended up there so
• 2:22:05
  fucking recently that it's like you cannot say like that that
• 2:22:09
  part of the world is older than fucking time.
• 2:22:13
  I don't know. It's just fucking crazy.
• 2:22:15
  To think that you can go into those woods and those mountains
• 2:22:19
  and not be fucking haunted for the rest of your life is
• 2:22:22
  absolutely crazy to me. Like.
• 2:22:25
  So you you are like open to cryptids that like Bigfoot,
• 2:22:32
  you're kind of open being like that's more of a biological
• 2:22:34
  thing. Then when it comes to the likes
• 2:22:36
  of Jersey Devil or Skinwalkers, things like that, that you are
• 2:22:40
  like, yes, there is otherworldly stuff going on.
• 2:22:43
  There, Yeah. Those instances.
• 2:22:45
  You have to go on the story that is told about these creatures,
• 2:22:50
  right? So the Bigfoot, right, That's
• 2:22:54
  very much, it could be a reclusive ape because people
• 2:22:57
  have been like, yeah, it didn't interfere with anything.
• 2:23:01
  Nothing bad happened to my family.
• 2:23:03
  I wasn't cursed by anything. I just saw this big fucking
• 2:23:05
  hairy dude that looked like a monkey, right?
• 2:23:08
  If you go to the likes of the Mothman, which is very much,
• 2:23:13
  people have only ever seen it before a catastrophe, before
• 2:23:18
  something bad happened where you can look at it as.
• 2:23:21
  The Angel of. Death exactly, that's exactly it
• 2:23:24
  where it's just kind of like all right, so this this thing isn't
• 2:23:28
  terrorizing the community. It isn't, you know, something
• 2:23:32
  that people see and they weren't away from.
• 2:23:34
  It's very much just like it appears like perched on a
• 2:23:37
  fucking power line before train crashes.
• 2:23:42
  Exactly. And then it's the same fucking
• 2:23:45
  thing for like basically the Jersey Devil, which is like just
• 2:23:51
  kind of fucking shows up when they're.
• 2:23:54
  I don't believe that the Jersey level is the 13th child of a
• 2:23:59
  woman that's scorned and cursed it and it turned into the.
• 2:24:01
  Devil nor do I, I think there's a lot of things.
• 2:24:04
  So like, again, like a lot of these, as you said yourself, the
• 2:24:10
  woods and things like that in America and and Canada, like, I
• 2:24:13
  mean, like if you look at the northern territories of Canada,
• 2:24:17
  a lot of that is has not been touched by man.
• 2:24:21
  Like no one's been there. It's completely just fucking
• 2:24:25
  barren, like whatever, right? And it's, it's a thing of where
• 2:24:30
  it's like these beings like you can be like, oh, it's just a
• 2:24:35
  myth. It's whatever.
• 2:24:36
  Like how the fuck do you know if we're still living on this
• 2:24:39
  planet? And there are parts of it like
• 2:24:42
  like Canada, which is fully fucking populated, populated,
• 2:24:47
  populated. Populated.
• 2:24:49
  Populated. Like again, like we've got like
• 2:24:53
  even Alaska. Half of Alaska isn't even
• 2:24:57
  fucking like. Yeah, there's no people there.
• 2:25:00
  Exactly. And that's the thing, like you
• 2:25:02
  don't fucking know. Like you could probably just be
• 2:25:04
  like, all right, like we're going to fucking have a crew.
• 2:25:07
  We're going to set up here in the Northern territories in
• 2:25:12
  Canada for six months and see, you will find, I guarantee they
• 2:25:18
  will find animals they didn't even know existed was because
• 2:25:22
  it's so bet down always by because that's the Antarctic.
• 2:25:25
  And that's why when you go to like politics, nobody is allowed
• 2:25:32
  to claim anything in Antarctica or to claim anything up there
• 2:25:38
  because they don't know what the fuck is up there.
• 2:25:40
  Before we go on that tangent, Danny, I think 2:00, two and
• 2:25:44
  three quarter hours. We're cutting this into two
• 2:25:47
  episodes, by the way. Yeah, yeah, we'll do.
• 2:25:49
  We'll do. We'll do the.
• 2:25:51
  Rest of the cryptids, I think, yeah.
• 2:25:53
  And the next one, because we're almost at a full Joel Rogan
• 2:25:56
  here. Yeah, we're, I think, I think
• 2:25:58
  we've covered, we've covered a lot.
• 2:25:59
  We've done. You've covered about two bottles
• 2:26:01
  of wine. We've covered a lot of cryptids,
• 2:26:05
  I think. I think seven of your 20.
• 2:26:07
  Seven. Yeah, 7 actually. 3.
• 2:26:11
  Questions. Yeah, yeah.
• 2:26:15
  But no. Do you know what I mean?
• 2:26:16
  So I think we'll. We'll it's.
• 2:26:18
  Yeah, I just think again going back to the whole spirituality
• 2:26:22
  kind of thing, it is extremely naive to think that any of these
• 2:26:28
  cryptids don't exist because what I know we've only
• 2:26:35
  discovered 5% of the world's oceans, but like land wise, the
• 2:26:41
  majority of Canada, nobody has has tracked that.
• 2:26:46
  So I'm just you. Think there's things lurking up
• 2:26:49
  there? There has to be, there has to
• 2:26:51
  be. And then when it comes to like
• 2:26:52
  Antarctica and things like that, and you look at the Yeti.
• 2:26:56
  We we could do a lot more like. Antarctica.
• 2:26:59
  So much on Antarctica. The reason that people have been
• 2:27:02
  like, nobody can like claim this for themselves.
• 2:27:07
  It is a. Ridiculously telling thing.
• 2:27:09
  And like, I believe there's ongoing like, research and
• 2:27:15
  surveillance and like, I know that there's been like rumors
• 2:27:19
  and stuff like that of people being like, yeah, there's been
• 2:27:22
  like ancient stuff that's come out of there that we found that.
• 2:27:27
  And again, I'm not going to say this is real.
• 2:27:29
  I'm not like ladies. And gentlemen, before Danny,
• 2:27:32
  before Danny brings me off in the tangent where I start
• 2:27:35
  talking about Antarctica, we're going to put a pain in this.
• 2:27:39
  We're going to wrap this up right now.
• 2:27:41
  And you've been listening to. Pick this up.
• 2:27:44
  Hocus hocus. Lack of hocus.
• 2:27:47
  Definitely. Girls going to keep talking.
• 2:27:49
  Yeah, you got? Yeah.
• 2:27:53
  You've been listening to Hocus Pocus, Lack of Focus.
• 2:27:56
  I've been Justy. She's been Danny.
• 2:27:59
  Thanks for hanging out with us for a spell.
• 2:28:01
  Love you. Goodbye.
• 2:28:04
  Stop it. Oh my God.
• 2:28:05
  Alex.