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UK Column News — 27th July 2026 · UK Column Radio

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  Speaker 1: Good afternoon. It's Monday, twenty seventh of July twenty twenty six,
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  Speaker 1: just after one o'clock UK time. You're watching UK column News.
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  Speaker 1: I'm your host In Rubin and I'm delighted to be
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  Speaker 1: joined in the studio today by mister Brian Gerrish.
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  Speaker 2: I Brian, my pleasure. How are you doing very well
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  Speaker 2: after a wonderful weekend. So a break is always a
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  Speaker 2: very good thing.
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  Speaker 1: It certainly is. So we've got a pack schedule today.
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  Speaker 1: We'll be looking at the corporate takeover of the British
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  Speaker 1: state via the Regulatory Innovation Office, the Institute for Government
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  Speaker 1: plans to reorder the British State behind the scenes, how
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  Speaker 1: local councils are targeting communities across the UK, the parlor
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  Speaker 1: state of public broadcasting, and the soft coup which has
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  Speaker 1: taken place over the past few weeks, which leads is
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  Speaker 1: very neatly onto Andy Burnham.
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  Speaker 2: Andy Burnham, well, you're absolutely right bent The new Prime
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  Speaker 2: Minister comes across as just a nice guy who's in
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  Speaker 2: a job and maybe a bit out of his debt,
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  Speaker 2: but actually a lot more happening. So we thought we'd
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  Speaker 2: kick off with an interview by Laura Consburg from the BBC,
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  Speaker 2: and quite a lot emerged in this interview. We've obviously
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  Speaker 2: just taken some clips, but let's join in from the
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  Speaker 2: beginning as it were.
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  Speaker 3: Hey Laura, Hi, what's are you so long?
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  Speaker 4: Oh?
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  Speaker 5: You know, I'd like to make an entrance.
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  Speaker 6: Julie.
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  Speaker 7: Elected Leader of the Labor Party is Andy Burnham. Andy
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  Speaker 7: Burnham's on stage at the moment.
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  Speaker 8: He's just being named as a leader. But I've got
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  Speaker 8: a Westler because we're actually just right.
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  Speaker 3: Backstage, ushered in by Labor, unelected by the wider public. Come,
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  Speaker 3: we've been up close with the new Prime Minister in
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  Speaker 3: his first week in power, able at last to question
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  Speaker 3: his plans for home and abroad. I think we're cann
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  Speaker 3: have a weak chat.
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  Speaker 5: I do feel ready, I do feel that this is the.
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  Speaker 3: Moment, and Burnham hasn't been elected by the whole country.
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  Speaker 2: Well there, we are just a little taste of there,
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  Speaker 2: so that we can make a bit of a comment
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  Speaker 2: on it. But of course, Andy Burnham, he's on stage,
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  Speaker 2: and I think that's appropriate because what you're watching is
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  Speaker 2: a complete play. He is play acting. What's really taking
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  Speaker 2: place under all of the music and self congratulatory clapping
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  Speaker 2: is a coup. There's no doubt about this. It might
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  Speaker 2: appear soft, but underneath there's definitely the iron fist in
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  Speaker 2: the in the velvet gloves as it were. And what's
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  Speaker 2: a shame with that audience for Andy Burnham is they
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  Speaker 2: weren't actually in uproar comment on Laura Kunsberg first of all,
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  Speaker 2: if we pop her on screen, because what this lady
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  Speaker 2: did not do is ask any of the key questions.
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  Speaker 2: So she sat in a new equipped building, very polished,
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  Speaker 2: with this ten North logo strapped everywhere, and it was
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  Speaker 2: as if it was completely normal. She had no questions
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  Speaker 2: to ask about the significance of it. She didn't ask
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  Speaker 2: where it came from, she didn't ask what this new
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  Speaker 2: building represented, and she certainly didn't ask where it will lead.
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  Speaker 2: So is she unintelligent? Unintelligent? No, I don't think so.
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  Speaker 2: I think she's an intelligent lady, but completely out of
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  Speaker 2: her depth here. She was drawn in by the razmataz
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  Speaker 2: of the stage show by Andrew and Andrew Burnham and
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  Speaker 2: she had no analysis as to what was going on
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  Speaker 2: at all. Now we're going to dig into the interview
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  Speaker 2: a little bit more, and the second clip that I've
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  Speaker 2: chosen is when and Deburnham was asked a difficult question
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  Speaker 2: on the subject of immigration.
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  Speaker 7: Okay, when it gets to difficult decisions, the public in
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  Speaker 7: the last a couple of decades have in many cases
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  Speaker 7: felt that politicians haven't listened to them when it comes
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  Speaker 7: to decisions about immigration. Under the current government plans, the
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  Speaker 7: suggestion is that people in this country legally migrants might
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  Speaker 7: have to wait ten years or perhaps more before they
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  Speaker 7: are allowed to stay. Will you carry on with that plan?
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  Speaker 5: Well, that proposal has been under consultation.
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  Speaker 7: And what's your review as the new Prime minister.
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  Speaker 5: Well, I come in and I am listening to people's
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  Speaker 5: views and will come to a fair resolution. You know.
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  Speaker 5: I think the worry that people have is the feeling
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  Speaker 5: that it's out of control and that we don't have
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  Speaker 5: a grip as a country and therefore we don't have
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  Speaker 5: the right the right procedures.
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  Speaker 7: And you might work again, though you're not persuaded that
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  Speaker 7: that's the right plan because people might be worried about that.
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  Speaker 5: Going to look at what's been said during the consultation,
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  Speaker 5: And I mentioned social care before, and I see people
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  Speaker 5: contributing to our society by working in social care who
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  Speaker 5: in many cases you know, come from around the world
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  Speaker 5: to work there or work in the NHS. I don't
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  Speaker 5: think people actually say that that is something that we
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  Speaker 5: don't want. We want people, when they're here and making
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  Speaker 5: a contribution, to be able to be if you like,
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  Speaker 5: supported well said.
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  Speaker 7: Clearly you're not yet persuaded that that is the right
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  Speaker 7: way to go so that people will be interested.
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  Speaker 5: I'm looking at the consultation. I think it's fair enough
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  Speaker 5: for me to say, four days into the job, where
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  Speaker 5: there has been discussions going on that, you know, I
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  Speaker 5: kind of come in, look at the situation and say, right,
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  Speaker 5: let me see what people are saying, let me see
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  Speaker 5: the balance of the arguments. I think people would expect
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  Speaker 5: me to bring a new pair of eyes to these
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  Speaker 5: issues and find where the fairness is and the right
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  Speaker 5: point of balance.
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  Speaker 2: Well, Ben, I'm going to come to you. To me,
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  Speaker 2: there was a lot of waffle in answering that question.
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  Speaker 2: What was your take?
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  Speaker 1: Did he answer that question? No, I don't think he
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  Speaker 1: did answer that question now as a very long winded
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  Speaker 1: way of saying not much at all and just talking
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  Speaker 1: about process basically. So he doesn't have a policy, he
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  Speaker 1: doesn't have any ideas of his own doesn't have an opinion,
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  Speaker 1: doesn't have any data to refer to, so he's just
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  Speaker 1: talking about process and also this idea that, oh, you've
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  Speaker 1: got to company some sack. I'm only four days into
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  Speaker 1: the job. If you're the man for the job and
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  Speaker 1: you're leading the country, you need to be able to
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  Speaker 1: lead the country straight out the gate, surely, particularly if
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  Speaker 1: you've been a top tier politician for the past twenty years.
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  Speaker 1: You know you would expect that.
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  Speaker 2: You would expect that. And of course he's sat in
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  Speaker 2: this huge complex set up, three hundred civil servant student
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  Speaker 2: moving in the next couple of weeks or so, all
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  Speaker 2: of this pre thought out, pre organize. He's absolutely on
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  Speaker 2: the ball there. But when he gets asked a question
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  Speaker 2: which even Laura Gunsberg herself says, well many people deeply
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  Speaker 2: concerned about immigration effectively out of control, he doesn't want
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  Speaker 2: to answer that. And the interesting thing in the answer
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  Speaker 2: he does give coming back to the point, well, we've
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  Speaker 2: got these people from all across the world involved in
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  Speaker 2: social care and the NHS. Only minutes earlier he was
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  Speaker 2: busy talking about how the NHS was such a shambles
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  Speaker 2: it was going to collapse. Maybe part of that is
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  Speaker 2: because a lot of people don't speak English in the NHS,
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  Speaker 2: so he was not going to answer that question, and
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  Speaker 2: he was winding and deflecting all over the place. There
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  Speaker 2: was only one subject that he got motivated about and
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  Speaker 2: where he gave opinion directly to the camera in that interview.
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  Speaker 2: Was that one subject. That's subtle that.
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  Speaker 7: One of the things that is also on your desk
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  Speaker 7: is a conflict on the edge of our continent, the Ukraine.
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  Speaker 2: War rages on.
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  Speaker 7: Would you take a call from Vladimir Putin?
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  Speaker 5: I would have to know the circumstances in which that
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  Speaker 5: was being requested, so it's hard to answer that question directly.
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  Speaker 5: I would obviously want to first and foremost take my
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  Speaker 5: lead from the person that I would want to hear from,
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  Speaker 5: who would be President Zelenski, who will be coming here.
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  Speaker 5: I look forward to welcoming him again. I pay tribute
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  Speaker 5: to the former Prime minister who gave him huge personal support.
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  Speaker 5: He will get exactly the same from me. I would
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  Speaker 5: do nothing, absolutely nothing to undermine him in the conflict
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  Speaker 5: in which he is in. You know, my support for
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  Speaker 5: Ukraine is unwavering, it is one hundred percent, and I
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  Speaker 5: will do what in Ukraine people think is the right
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  Speaker 5: thing that they need. They will have in me a
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  Speaker 5: loyal support and I would do nothing that cut across
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  Speaker 5: that position.
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  Speaker 2: So it didn't matter what subject he was answered originally
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  Speaker 2: or in giving answer the same waffle, moving away from
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  Speaker 2: the real issue, except with Ukraine, where he says he's
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  Speaker 2: so dedicated he's going to do anything and everything that
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  Speaker 2: President Zelensky may ask him or ask him for. And
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  Speaker 2: also he's not going to speak to President Putin should
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  Speaker 2: that into that major power call Andy Burnham as Prime minister.
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  Speaker 2: He's not going to answer that far without permission, without
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  Speaker 2: permission from Zelensky. Now what comes into my mind here
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  Speaker 2: was David Cameron in his early days when he said
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  Speaker 2: my belief in Israel is unshakable. And what he was
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  Speaker 2: effectively saying is that the United Kingdom came second to
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  Speaker 2: Israel in his mind. And now we are being told
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  Speaker 2: very clearly it doesn't matter what the issue is in
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  Speaker 2: uk The primary issue for Burnham is Ukraine and that
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  Speaker 2: means war. So if there are any of the old
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  Speaker 2: style socialists out there, this man is a whole new
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  Speaker 2: cup of tea, as we will see in today's news. Now,
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  Speaker 2: what's Andy Burnham going to do to deal with Russia
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  Speaker 2: and to deal with Iran supposedly. Well, of course, let's
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  Speaker 2: have a look at what Wes Streeting had to say
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  Speaker 2: in another little interview clip.
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  Speaker 4: Is it your understanding that Iran could target the UK?
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  Speaker 4: Does it have that capability?
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  Speaker 8: I think we shouldn't put too much stock in the
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  Speaker 8: saber rattling of Iran, and we certainly shouldn't be intimidated
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  Speaker 8: by what the regime has said this week. We haven't
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  Speaker 8: joined defensive action against Iran. We have taken part in
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  Speaker 8: defensive action to support UK people, personnel, interests, and our allies,
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  Speaker 8: and we will continue to do so. Okay, But we
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  Speaker 8: stand ready to respond to any attacks that Iran wishes
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  Speaker 8: to wage against this country or our allies, and we
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  Speaker 8: will continue to do that.
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  Speaker 9: Okay.
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  Speaker 4: Saber rattling by Russia firing live rounds on the day
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  Speaker 4: Andy Burnham was appointed, What can you do to prevent
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  Speaker 4: the Russians doing that?
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  Speaker 10: Again?
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  Speaker 8: Well, there are established protocols for those sorts of exercises,
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  Speaker 8: and we were tracking Russia throughout the day. I think
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  Speaker 8: what we saw from Russia was performative, but also it's
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  Speaker 8: a reminder of the frankly unsafe and unprofessional way in
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  Speaker 8: which they've been conducting themselves. We think the Kremlin are irresponsible,
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  Speaker 8: and you know, we're not going to put too again,
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  Speaker 8: put too much stock in in that particular gesture on
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  Speaker 8: that particular day. What we do know is that every
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  Speaker 8: single day Russia throws opposes a threat to UK security.
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  Speaker 8: We've seen that publicly. As the public, we don't see
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  Speaker 8: the enormous efforts that take place every day to counter
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  Speaker 8: Russian aggression.
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  Speaker 2: So more of the long winded what's your thought on
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  Speaker 2: where's there? Do you think he's going to frighten puting?
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  Speaker 1: My thought coming out of that was that we're just
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  Speaker 1: not a serious country anymore. Actually, is that Defense Secretary,
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  Speaker 1: I'm sure Putting is quaking in his boots to.
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  Speaker 2: Hear where's listing his way through his strong man act. Well,
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  Speaker 2: there's a lot more to come on this, and we're
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  Speaker 2: going to move into the debts of what's really happening
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  Speaker 2: around Andy Burnham and be under no illusions this man
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  Speaker 2: is going to completely change brackets destroy the United Kingdom. Yeah,
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  Speaker 2: that's so to you, Ben.
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  Speaker 1: Certainly seems to be the direction of travel, and actually
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  Speaker 1: I think this probably ties in quite nicely to our
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  Speaker 1: old friends over a common purpose. And common purpose was
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  Speaker 1: a term that Andy Burnham used in his inaugural speech
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  Speaker 1: outside of Downing Street last week. There was a short
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  Speaker 1: speech five or six minutes long, delivered without notes. You
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  Speaker 1: remember when David Cameron used to do that at the
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  Speaker 1: party conferences and it was kind of his party trick.
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  Speaker 1: You think we're going to be treated to this on
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  Speaker 1: a regular basis.
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  Speaker 2: I think we will, because Burnham is going to do
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  Speaker 2: anything and everything he can to try and capture the
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  Speaker 2: public mind exactly.
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  Speaker 1: So he was talking about common purpose on the steps
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  Speaker 1: of Downing Street and then he went back into Downing
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  Speaker 1: Street and this image was shared by Antonio Romeo. Actually
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  Speaker 1: it's Romeo. Sorry should I say? Who is the Cabinet
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  Speaker 1: Secretary head of the Civil Service? And she talked about
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  Speaker 1: common purpose as well. I thought it was really interesting.
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  Speaker 1: It's a theme emerging here. And she said that today
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  Speaker 1: Andy Burnham has accepted his Majesty the King's invitations for
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  Speaker 1: former government. In his first speech from down the Street,
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  Speaker 1: the new Prime Minister committed to outline a new ten
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  Speaker 1: year plan for the country and a focus on collaborative
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  Speaker 1: problem solving. They love a collaboration. Is it a collaboration
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  Speaker 1: or conspiracy? We asked that last week. I know what
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  Speaker 1: I think, building a more preventative state and a national
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  Speaker 1: sense of unity, of common purpose and positivity. Now, missus Romeo, Romeo,
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  Speaker 1: we'll get that right at some point. Has talked about
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  Speaker 1: Common Purpose a lot before. She's been on the column
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  Speaker 1: route previously as well, including way back in twenty seventeen
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  Speaker 1: where she was talking about Common Purpose. So this was
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  Speaker 1: a report that Mike delivered and will provide a link
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  Speaker 1: in the show notes. You can go and watch it
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  Speaker 1: to see what she was up to. She was our
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  Speaker 1: trade envoy to the US, one of them based in
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  Speaker 1: New York, and she was talking about this work helping
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  Speaker 1: the department coalesce around a common purpose. And this term
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  Speaker 1: cops up again and again, and I'm fairly sure that
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  Speaker 1: it relates to this organization. We can't prove this conclusively,
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  Speaker 1: but Common Purpose is the supposed political charity that was
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  Speaker 1: set up in the late eighties. Actually it's been going
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  Speaker 1: for yeah exactly, So there's been going for quite some
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  Speaker 1: time now, which is about building networks of future leaders
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  Speaker 1: across the different component parts of the British system, whether
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  Speaker 1: that's in the public, private, or in third sectors, breaking
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  Speaker 1: down silos between organizations, essentially leading the way for a
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  Speaker 1: completely new political and economic structure to be constituted in
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  Speaker 1: our society. Absolutely, and they're still at it.
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  Speaker 2: They are still at it. We should remember that in
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  Speaker 2: Tony Blair's era, when the Prime Minister Prescott had his office,
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  Speaker 2: he shared that with Common Purpose, so at the heart
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  Speaker 2: of the Labor government. But also David Cameron fully involved
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  Speaker 2: with Common Purposes an organization as well, particularly in India.
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  Speaker 1: Absolutely, which as we know, is a crucial focal point
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  Speaker 1: for developing the governance systems for the new global order
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  Speaker 1: that we're being migrated into. Now importantly, I will just
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  Speaker 1: flug this up because I think there's something here that
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  Speaker 1: needs to be examined, right, which is that the term
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  Speaker 1: common purpose is also used by Freemasons. So the United
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  Speaker 1: Grand Lodge of England hosted their ter centenary celebration in
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  Speaker 1: twenty seventeen, is a very very heavily scripted and tightly
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  Speaker 1: planned event where the term common purpose is used and discussed.
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  Speaker 1: Because Masons act with common purpose, they're working towards the
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  Speaker 1: same goals. And I do note that there is a
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  Speaker 1: checkerboard pattern on stage there which you can see, which
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  Speaker 1: is very common in Masonic lodges actually, so this is
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  Speaker 1: actually inside the Unity Grand Lodge of England. You can
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  Speaker 1: see the checkerboard pattern there as well as various portraits
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  Speaker 1: and other paraphernalia that appear in these lodges. And if
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  Speaker 1: we can flip back to that image from Downing Street
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  Speaker 1: I showed at the beginning of this segment, we can
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  Speaker 1: see that there is actually a checkerboard floor inside Downing
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  Speaker 1: Street as well, and no doubt it's heavily imbued with
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  Speaker 1: other types of symbology across the entire state. I should imagine.
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  Speaker 2: Lots lots of questions to be asked. But what we
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  Speaker 2: are seeing more and more is a collaboration between people
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  Speaker 2: and organizations and clearly that a collaborative network has got
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  Speaker 2: a control network operating through it and alongside it.
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  Speaker 1: So absolutely, and it is tightening its grip as we speak,
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  Speaker 1: what we're watching, what we're living through right now. So
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  Speaker 1: we've talked about Downing Street. Let's head up to number
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  Speaker 1: ten North, this again from Antonio Romeo image shared on
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  Speaker 1: LinkedIn with the fake number ten door in the background,
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  Speaker 1: and it's everything's a stage, isn't there?
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  Speaker 2: This is a site. This is a site, Ben because
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  Speaker 2: where are people's mind focused? They know Number ten home
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  Speaker 2: of the Prime Minister, and now we've got that door
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  Speaker 2: paraded as if it's completely normal. This is a fictional setting.
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  Speaker 2: We're watching a sort of political EastEnders play out here
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  Speaker 2: and Burnham of course is right in the middle of it.
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  Speaker 2: So when we get into a more detail about what
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  Speaker 2: he's got planned, I think people understand what this door
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  Speaker 2: means in its location in Manchester.
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  Speaker 1: Absolutely yes, and what they got going on up there.
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  Speaker 1: So very excited post from Antonio Romeo saying that we're
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  Speaker 1: alive from Number ten North and the opening of Number
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  Speaker 1: ten North brings the leavers of local economic growth in
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  Speaker 1: Deva together into what the PM describes as the situation
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  Speaker 1: room for growth. So this is that merger of state
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  Speaker 1: and corporate power structures, right, bringing the local economic growth
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  Speaker 1: and devolution together. So's local economic growth, evolution is local
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  Speaker 1: governance bringing those things together into this situation room for growth.
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  Speaker 1: That's what Earnham's describing this as. So he then goes
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  Speaker 1: on to say this is allowing government departments, combined authorities
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  Speaker 1: and businesses to work together collaboratively. And I think that
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  Speaker 1: little statement at the end there is basically a smoking
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  Speaker 1: gun for this to put to bed, this idea that
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  Speaker 1: devolution is about disseminating power out into the country.
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  Speaker 2: Four people, disseminating it for people.
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  Speaker 1: Exactly, because that's not what's happening in nunder ten North.
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  Speaker 1: You can see that government departments are central government departments
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  Speaker 1: and the combined authorities which is this metro mare system
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  Speaker 1: and businesses are going to be working together collaboratively. So
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  Speaker 1: in the regions, central government is going to be in
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  Speaker 1: the room. This is what we've been talking about for
• 20:07
  Speaker 1: years now. Yeah, playing out right in front of our eyes.
• 20:10
  Speaker 2: None of this dis debated in the House at all,
• 20:14
  Speaker 2: So MPs have no clue as to what's really happening
• 20:17
  Speaker 2: under the surface because the parliamentary briefing sheets are just
• 20:21
  Speaker 2: going to come out as if this was normal. When
• 20:24
  Speaker 2: were the plans put in place for the transition of
• 20:27
  Speaker 2: government from Westminster to Number ten in Manchester. Yeah, this
• 20:33
  Speaker 2: clearly hasn't just happened on the back of Andy Burnham's
• 20:37
  Speaker 2: thoughts his manifesto. This is something that's been planned and
• 20:42
  Speaker 2: calculated and planned for a very long time.
• 20:44
  Speaker 1: It certainly has, and the lease for the building was
• 20:46
  Speaker 1: actually signed about a month before he was even brought
• 20:50
  Speaker 1: in his PM as well, so this whole thing is
• 20:54
  Speaker 1: completely planned ahead of time. And importantly, just to kind
• 20:59
  Speaker 1: of reiterate this point that we talk about a lot,
• 21:01
  Speaker 1: this merger of state and corporate power is essentially a
• 21:04
  Speaker 1: fascist system, so we can get that back on screen.
• 21:06
  Speaker 1: This is a fascist paragraph, a fascist reconstitution of the state.
• 21:11
  Speaker 1: And just to wrap this up, we're going to be
• 21:14
  Speaker 1: seeing lots of images like this up in number ten
• 21:17
  Speaker 1: North and I just wanted to draw people's attention to
• 21:20
  Speaker 1: Angela Rayna this year is back at the cabinet table.
• 21:22
  Speaker 1: She's got some new specs making it look a lot
• 21:25
  Speaker 1: more respectable and adding I don't know, ten to fifteen
• 21:27
  Speaker 1: IQ points to a.
• 21:29
  Speaker 2: Little bit intellectual geeky got to be there alongside Andy
• 21:33
  Speaker 2: Burnham because he's got a brilliant, pressive pair of respects
• 21:36
  Speaker 2: as well, so.
• 21:37
  Speaker 1: He certainly does with the glasses crowd exactly.
• 21:41
  Speaker 2: Well, if we do deeper into this, then we have
• 21:44
  Speaker 2: to come back to the Institute of Government, who I've
• 21:49
  Speaker 2: mentioned several times, because if you look at the updates
• 21:52
  Speaker 2: they give, it's very very interesting. What they talk about
• 21:57
  Speaker 2: seems always to be just ahead of what's happening. So
• 22:01
  Speaker 2: this is their headline here the next Prime Minister, How
• 22:05
  Speaker 2: can Andy Burnham hit the ground running? Well, he didn't
• 22:08
  Speaker 2: hit the ground running, He hit the ground racing, accelerating
• 22:12
  Speaker 2: away because clearly what he is what he's now using
• 22:17
  Speaker 2: the facilities of Number ten up north, This was created
• 22:21
  Speaker 2: some time ago. Lots of clues from the Institute of Government.
• 22:26
  Speaker 2: And just remember that this organization, funded by Lord Sainsbury's millions,
• 22:32
  Speaker 2: gone into this in order to shape political power. But
• 22:36
  Speaker 2: these are some of the points that the Institute of
• 22:39
  Speaker 2: Government talks about that Andy Burnham should be thinking about
• 22:43
  Speaker 2: creating a new office for the Prime Minister and cabinet.
• 22:48
  Speaker 2: So they say this will be a very bold move
• 22:50
  Speaker 2: and he needs to do this. This is going straight
• 22:53
  Speaker 2: back as I say, Tony Blair and the officer of
• 22:56
  Speaker 2: the Deputy Prime Minister under John Prescott, and that office
• 23:01
  Speaker 2: was shared by common purpose at the time. Then we've
• 23:04
  Speaker 2: got turn number ten into a ceremonial building. This is
• 23:09
  Speaker 2: the destruction now of the constitution because Number ten, from
• 23:14
  Speaker 2: a seat of government is just to be turned into
• 23:16
  Speaker 2: a ceremonial building, and if the Institute of Government is
• 23:20
  Speaker 2: making this as a suggestion, we can be sure that
• 23:23
  Speaker 2: actually Andy Burnham's already been told that this is what
• 23:27
  Speaker 2: he is looking at. So is this a suggestion or
• 23:30
  Speaker 2: a policy? I think we're actually dealing with policy. And
• 23:33
  Speaker 2: if we go on through, we've got more an important
• 23:36
  Speaker 2: one here, don't split the treasury. There's been much speculation
• 23:40
  Speaker 2: the Institute of Government says that the next Prime Minister
• 23:43
  Speaker 2: will move to break up the Treasury, deliberately diluting its
• 23:47
  Speaker 2: oversized influence over the government. This would be the wrong
• 23:51
  Speaker 2: of choice. The focus should instead be on bolstering the
• 23:55
  Speaker 2: Number ten operation, giving its strength and influence to match
• 23:59
  Speaker 2: the treasure. So this is money and power coming together.
• 24:04
  Speaker 2: But of course, at the end of the day, he
• 24:05
  Speaker 2: who pays the piper calls the tune. So we can
• 24:09
  Speaker 2: be sure that if the Number ten operation is to
• 24:13
  Speaker 2: sit closer to the financial power base, it's ultimately going
• 24:17
  Speaker 2: to be that financial power base that's in control. But
• 24:20
  Speaker 2: it goes on. There is a lot of this. They
• 24:24
  Speaker 2: asked what can Burnham do to make his devolution plans
• 24:28
  Speaker 2: a success, and one of the key answers that is
• 24:31
  Speaker 2: be clear eyed about what number ten North is really for,
• 24:37
  Speaker 2: and it says it shouldn't duplicate the London functions, two
• 24:41
  Speaker 2: sets of advisors claiming to speak for the same Prime
• 24:44
  Speaker 2: Minister of failing to speak to each other. So this
• 24:48
  Speaker 2: has all got to be cemented together in one power base.
• 24:53
  Speaker 2: And Andy Burnham has said several times that he is
• 24:56
  Speaker 2: going to deliver the biggest change in our lifetime. UK
• 25:00
  Speaker 2: column News says he's absolutely telling the truth because Ben,
• 25:04
  Speaker 2: as you've said, this is a coup and essentially what
• 25:07
  Speaker 2: you've got is a fascist state building itself here. So
• 25:11
  Speaker 2: we are being very upfront on this because too many
• 25:15
  Speaker 2: people think that there is a bit of a joke
• 25:17
  Speaker 2: going on at the moment. The Institute goes on it says,
• 25:21
  Speaker 2: make number ten North the strategic center for devolution. Is
• 25:26
  Speaker 2: this constant focus back on devolution and of course it's
• 25:32
  Speaker 2: going to be England that is at the center of this,
• 25:35
  Speaker 2: but also national devolution. So this is not further devolution
• 25:40
  Speaker 2: of Scotland or Wales or even Northern Ireland. This is
• 25:44
  Speaker 2: the breaking up of England into ever smaller fractions, which
• 25:48
  Speaker 2: means ever ever less power for England as a state
• 25:54
  Speaker 2: in its own right, and ever greater government control. So
• 25:59
  Speaker 2: this is the line to remember that it's England that
• 26:02
  Speaker 2: is now going to be taken apart. And of course
• 26:05
  Speaker 2: if the political power base is taken out of London,
• 26:09
  Speaker 2: Number ten has just made some tourist attraction, then essentially
• 26:13
  Speaker 2: we are left with the capital city we could say
• 26:17
  Speaker 2: of England, but certainly of the United Kingdom is going
• 26:21
  Speaker 2: to be what an international super state city just to
• 26:25
  Speaker 2: be governed by its mayor. Is that where they're heading,
• 26:27
  Speaker 2: do you think, ben?
• 26:29
  Speaker 1: Yeah, and a kind of madhouse casino in the city
• 26:32
  Speaker 1: of London that funds the whole thing.
• 26:34
  Speaker 2: Indeed, so we go follow through this so that you
• 26:38
  Speaker 2: can see just how much Lord Sainsbury and his team
• 26:41
  Speaker 2: was putting forward. So we've got another one here. Appoint
• 26:44
  Speaker 2: a senior political figure to head Number ten North as
• 26:49
  Speaker 2: Prime Minister. Ern And will not have time to manage
• 26:52
  Speaker 2: Number ten's north political relationships with ministers in Whitehall, MPs
• 26:57
  Speaker 2: and elected mayors and councilors, many of whom will come
• 27:00
  Speaker 2: from opposition parties. He needs a trusted deputy, either a
• 27:04
  Speaker 2: chief secretary to the Prime Minister or a more senior
• 27:08
  Speaker 2: deputy Prime minister. Here it's coming in again to take
• 27:12
  Speaker 2: on much of the political load. Broker compromises an exercise
• 27:16
  Speaker 2: delegated on his behalf. So the system of governance is
• 27:20
  Speaker 2: to be disrupted in this country, Number ten as it
• 27:24
  Speaker 2: stands to be undermined. This new number ten norths to
• 27:28
  Speaker 2: come in and then Andy Burnham is going to build
• 27:31
  Speaker 2: this empire around himself where he's further and further isolated
• 27:37
  Speaker 2: from any sort of accountability or in fact responsibility.
• 27:43
  Speaker 1: Yes, and just layers and layers and layers of bureaucracy.
• 27:48
  Speaker 2: Indeed.
• 27:48
  Speaker 1: So actually the outset of the segment, one of the
• 27:51
  Speaker 1: recommendations was to create an office of the Prime Minister
• 27:54
  Speaker 1: in the cabinet because the Cabinet office is too stretched
• 27:58
  Speaker 1: at the moment or is in this so we need
• 28:00
  Speaker 1: a new thing. Isn't the office of the proministion in
• 28:04
  Speaker 1: the cabinet what the Cabinet office is supposed to be? Indeed,
• 28:07
  Speaker 1: so we're just going to add more stuff into the mix.
• 28:10
  Speaker 2: And we also reported uk Coms reported over many years
• 28:14
  Speaker 2: the huge increase in the number of civil servants operating
• 28:17
  Speaker 2: around the Cabinet office. The last figure I remember was
• 28:21
  Speaker 2: somewhere up around seven and a half thousand and that
• 28:24
  Speaker 2: was on the increase. Now we're going to duplicate the systems,
• 28:28
  Speaker 2: but don't worry. When the synthesis finally arrives, you're just
• 28:33
  Speaker 2: going to be left with this presidential power around Andy Burnham,
• 28:38
  Speaker 2: which he's going to call socialism, but as you've said,
• 28:40
  Speaker 2: I think a better description is fascism. So we just
• 28:44
  Speaker 2: put a label on that slide, and that is we
• 28:48
  Speaker 2: can see that they are desperate to get a deputy
• 28:51
  Speaker 2: prime minister in post, and if the prime minister deputy
• 28:54
  Speaker 2: prime minister is in post, just as with John Prescott
• 28:58
  Speaker 2: under Tony Blair, we can be pretty sure Common Purpose
• 29:02
  Speaker 2: is going to be back in the mainstream arena. So
• 29:06
  Speaker 2: we'll bring in this one as well. Handling's extreme, so sorry,
• 29:13
  Speaker 2: handling extreme scrutiny And apparently recently Burnham said you can
• 29:21
  Speaker 2: scrutinize us, you can ask us anything you want, but
• 29:25
  Speaker 2: then very quickly it became clear that that was only
• 29:28
  Speaker 2: if his team remained in control of the questions. So
• 29:32
  Speaker 2: here is Burnham and his team pulling themselves away from
• 29:35
  Speaker 2: any form of accountability. You might choose to ask him
• 29:39
  Speaker 2: penetrating questions. But as you've seen that the BBC is
• 29:42
  Speaker 2: going to give waffle and you're probably not going to
• 29:44
  Speaker 2: get an answer. All the questions going to be dismissed.
• 29:48
  Speaker 2: So moving on, and this comes back to you because
• 29:52
  Speaker 2: we've got Antonia here Rombo review of the civil Service.
• 29:59
  Speaker 2: Not only are we going to change everything to do
• 30:01
  Speaker 2: with the political side, we're also going to get this
• 30:04
  Speaker 2: disruptive agenda into the civil service in order to break
• 30:09
  Speaker 2: it down, reform it, remold it in the Burnham centralized
• 30:14
  Speaker 2: power system at number ten North. So I've deliberately said
• 30:18
  Speaker 2: that this is change and control of the civil service,
• 30:22
  Speaker 2: and the real word is disrupt and Andti Burnham uses
• 30:25
  Speaker 2: this word because the disruption and the confusion is actually
• 30:30
  Speaker 2: used in order to confuse not only the people in
• 30:34
  Speaker 2: the civil service but those looking in from the public
• 30:37
  Speaker 2: as to what's actually taking place. And another report from
• 30:41
  Speaker 2: the Institute Government here just simply stresses that he needs
• 30:46
  Speaker 2: to be clear eyed about the purpose of his Manchester office.
• 30:50
  Speaker 2: So they're saying, effectively, I think you know your instructions,
• 30:55
  Speaker 2: make sure you knuckle down and get on with it.
• 30:58
  Speaker 2: But if I bring in a little bit more, this
• 31:00
  Speaker 2: is some of the questions around constitutional change. Create a
• 31:05
  Speaker 2: public mandate for constitutional change, give the Commons control over
• 31:10
  Speaker 2: its agenda and sitting learn the lessons of electoral reform.
• 31:15
  Speaker 2: This is all about massive change to the constitution because we,
• 31:21
  Speaker 2: as we've said on the news before, they have to
• 31:24
  Speaker 2: break down the English Constitution and English common law if
• 31:28
  Speaker 2: they are to fully install this new super state, and
• 31:33
  Speaker 2: of course if you are, if you're going to have
• 31:36
  Speaker 2: complete control over people, that's from birth to death. And
• 31:41
  Speaker 2: the Institute of Government getting very excited here because they're saying,
• 31:45
  Speaker 2: mister Burnham, you're going to need citizens assemblies in order
• 31:49
  Speaker 2: to help force through assisted dying. So here's the new
• 31:55
  Speaker 2: Burnham regime. It's not about living and well being and
• 31:58
  Speaker 2: people looking after it each other. What they're worried about
• 32:02
  Speaker 2: is can we get more people effectively to kill themselves
• 32:06
  Speaker 2: more quickly in order to help the state. And if
• 32:10
  Speaker 2: you think you're going to protest about what's happening, they're
• 32:13
  Speaker 2: desperately trying to get a step ahead of this by
• 32:16
  Speaker 2: creating a new national police force. And the Institute of
• 32:20
  Speaker 2: Government here saying this is the right move of the
• 32:23
  Speaker 2: case for merging local forces is weaker. Think about what
• 32:27
  Speaker 2: they're saying there. We don't want to just merge forces
• 32:31
  Speaker 2: into some sort of bigger regional system. No, we want
• 32:35
  Speaker 2: to go straight to the national system, and that, of
• 32:38
  Speaker 2: course is what's needed for a full blown dictatorship. Now
• 32:42
  Speaker 2: we've got a little video clip here which was sent
• 32:45
  Speaker 2: into US. It's from the interview, but one of UK
• 32:49
  Speaker 2: column viewers said very interesting that when Burden was asked
• 32:52
  Speaker 2: a difficult question, he starts touching his face. It's a
• 32:56
  Speaker 2: very defensive posture. Let's have a look and you can
• 33:00
  Speaker 2: see whether you think our viewer was correct. And milisair
• 33:05
  Speaker 2: and our time is almost up.
• 33:06
  Speaker 7: But you see you come into Perer will be the
• 33:09
  Speaker 7: biggest changes country seen in for decades.
• 33:12
  Speaker 2: The thing is, twenty five people rooted for you in Makerfield.
• 33:16
  Speaker 7: The forty eight million people in the electric in this
• 33:19
  Speaker 7: country haven't had a chance to have.
• 33:20
  Speaker 2: A say on any of your plans. Do all that
• 33:24
  Speaker 2: having a general election?
• 33:27
  Speaker 1: Well that was quite a good question.
• 33:29
  Speaker 2: It was a good question and I think our view
• 33:32
  Speaker 2: was absolutely right. Suddenly you started to see nerves there
• 33:36
  Speaker 2: and Andrew Burnham, because the challenge was spot on. Nobody's
• 33:40
  Speaker 2: voted for this man, and this man is talking about
• 33:43
  Speaker 2: bringing in the biggest constitutional changes this country has seen.
• 33:48
  Speaker 2: In a great many years, so im mensely dangerous individual.
• 33:52
  Speaker 1: In my opinion, Ben I would tend to agree with that.
• 33:55
  Speaker 1: And I think the Institute of Government linkup is really
• 33:58
  Speaker 1: really important because Lord said Ainsbury, who funds the Institute
• 34:02
  Speaker 1: for Government, has been one of the key architects of
• 34:05
  Speaker 1: Manchesterism in this drive towards urbanization of the UK, well,
• 34:09
  Speaker 1: whether that's through the Center for Cities or Metro Dynamics,
• 34:12
  Speaker 1: as a whole bunch of organizations that have been pushing
• 34:15
  Speaker 1: that agenda forward over the past thirty years. Lord Sainsbury's
• 34:18
  Speaker 1: absolutely in the mix. So when the IFG says something,
• 34:22
  Speaker 1: you absolutely know that they've got a direct line to
• 34:24
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• 34:26
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• 34:28
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• 34:30
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• 36:20
  Speaker 2: We're seeing with Andy Burnham, this sort of progress is
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• 36:52
  Speaker 1: to corporate state capture and the control that the international
• 36:57
  Speaker 1: banking elites and corporations are exerting over the British state
• 37:01
  Speaker 1: and actually more further afielled than that too, but doing
• 37:04
  Speaker 1: it through the UK government. And I want to introduce
• 37:07
  Speaker 1: you to this organization. This is the Regulatory Innovation Office.
• 37:12
  Speaker 1: That's one of those titles that sounds really benign, but
• 37:16
  Speaker 1: also absolutely terrifying at the same time, doesn't it.
• 37:19
  Speaker 2: It does, And you see this stuff being knitted together
• 37:23
  Speaker 2: with the security services. Yeah, we should be deeply concerned.
• 37:27
  Speaker 1: Deeply concerned. Yes. So this was a Starmer initiative launched
• 37:31
  Speaker 1: at the end of twenty twenty four and appointed very
• 37:36
  Speaker 1: quickly after that the former Science Minister and also former
• 37:40
  Speaker 1: Universities Minister Lord Willits as its chair. Now, I spoke
• 37:45
  Speaker 1: last week about the uniparty and the fact that there's
• 37:49
  Speaker 1: really no difference in core policy terms between the Conservatives
• 37:53
  Speaker 1: and the Labor Party. This is another great example of this, right.
• 37:56
  Speaker 1: So Starmer comes in, introduces the the Regulatory Innovation Office
• 38:04
  Speaker 1: and then immediately appoints a tour we peer to run
• 38:06
  Speaker 1: it who has been in been in position since its
• 38:09
  Speaker 1: inception essentially and it's still in position today. And what
• 38:13
  Speaker 1: is he up to. Well, he wrote a rapport outlining
• 38:16
  Speaker 1: key achievements that they'd seen after the first year of operations,
• 38:21
  Speaker 1: and this was quite extraordinary. Actually, they've been extremely busy.
• 38:24
  Speaker 1: They've engaged one hundred and fifty businesses and I'm going
• 38:27
  Speaker 1: to pretty much guarantee you that those are all international corporations.
• 38:32
  Speaker 1: They wouldn't have been talking to small businesses here and
• 38:35
  Speaker 1: they wanted to do that to surface regulatory barriers across
• 38:40
  Speaker 1: science and technology. So they're actually going to the businesses
• 38:42
  Speaker 1: that they're supposed to be regulating and asking him if
• 38:45
  Speaker 1: there are any regulations that they'd like to remove. That
• 38:49
  Speaker 1: kind of sums it up quite nicely, I think.
• 38:51
  Speaker 2: And it's become increasingly difficult to tell what is corporate
• 38:56
  Speaker 2: business and what is government business, what's regulatory, what it's not.
• 39:00
  Speaker 2: This is all becoming I've used that. I think I
• 39:03
  Speaker 2: used the word synthesis earlier on.
• 39:05
  Speaker 1: Yes, Yeah, yeah, it's the it's the integration of the
• 39:07
  Speaker 1: power structures. What else have we got there? So we
• 39:10
  Speaker 1: can get that back on screen, we can see that
• 39:13
  Speaker 1: they've engaged with forty UK regulators to unlock regulatory barriers
• 39:18
  Speaker 1: to innovations. So not only they talking to the market,
• 39:20
  Speaker 1: they're also going to the regulatory bodies. And I'm guessing
• 39:22
  Speaker 1: that's pretty much all of the regulators in the UK
• 39:25
  Speaker 1: have been tapped up by this organization by Lord Willits
• 39:30
  Speaker 1: Apparently they've delivered over one hundred billion of combined gross
• 39:35
  Speaker 1: value add across our four priority sectors. I have no
• 39:37
  Speaker 1: idea exactly how they're defining that, but they're claiming an
• 39:40
  Speaker 1: enormous financial benefit into the UK economy. They focused on
• 39:43
  Speaker 1: space drones, artificial intelligence in the health sector and they're
• 39:47
  Speaker 1: actually working with the MHRA to develop aipowered tools to
• 39:52
  Speaker 1: help regulatory experts make faster decisions. So get this so
• 39:57
  Speaker 1: patients can access safe and effective treatments.
• 40:02
  Speaker 2: And when you remember back to the COVID scam, but
• 40:07
  Speaker 2: the reality was people were dying in large numbers during
• 40:10
  Speaker 2: that period subsequently, and you look at the fact that
• 40:14
  Speaker 2: MHRA absolutely did not do its job to keep patients safe.
• 40:20
  Speaker 2: It's simply worked in order to help the corporations make
• 40:23
  Speaker 2: more profits out of their medicines. They're quite outrageous that
• 40:28
  Speaker 2: this should be stated in this latest initiative.
• 40:32
  Speaker 1: Yeah, they described themselves a market enabler. We're not a
• 40:36
  Speaker 1: regulator anymore. We're in a market enabler. I think that's exactly
• 40:39
  Speaker 1: the approach that we're seeing here. And then they're also
• 40:43
  Speaker 1: it's the final point that in engineering biology, they're helping
• 40:47
  Speaker 1: to cut the amount of time that it takes to
• 40:49
  Speaker 1: get novel foods into the food system.
• 40:52
  Speaker 2: That's just what we don't need.
• 40:54
  Speaker 1: Yeah, engineering biology and foods. There's three words that should
• 40:57
  Speaker 1: never be heard together. They're also, by the way, massively
• 41:01
  Speaker 1: interested in robotics and defense and the minature industrial complex.
• 41:09
  Speaker 1: There's also a parallel program going on inside the UK
• 41:13
  Speaker 1: government at the moment called Parlex. This is part of
• 41:15
  Speaker 1: the AI Innovation Program. I'm going to do a more
• 41:19
  Speaker 1: in depth study on this because it demands proper scrutiny,
• 41:24
  Speaker 1: just to point out that the way that the government
• 41:26
  Speaker 1: is using AAR at the moment, or one of the ways,
• 41:28
  Speaker 1: is to work out how to write policy in a
• 41:31
  Speaker 1: way that is more likely to get through Parliament. So
• 41:34
  Speaker 1: actually they will track people's voting records and the kind
• 41:37
  Speaker 1: of language that they're using in speeches and then think
• 41:40
  Speaker 1: about ways that they can make policy more palatable to.
• 41:44
  Speaker 2: MP's more psychological pace.
• 41:47
  Speaker 1: It's exactly what it is. Yeah, it is now importantly
• 41:51
  Speaker 1: so of this we mentioned, this came in under Starmer.
• 41:54
  Speaker 1: Burnham is absolutely going to be aware of this, not
• 41:56
  Speaker 1: least because Lord Willits is the chair as well as
• 42:01
  Speaker 1: the Rio of this organization, the Resolution Foundation, which ostensibly
• 42:07
  Speaker 1: is about lifting living standards in the UK. That sounds nice,
• 42:10
  Speaker 1: doesn't it, And they were a co sponsor of this
• 42:15
  Speaker 1: event at the Labor Party conference in twenty twenty three.
• 42:18
  Speaker 1: I think it was alongside e Y, my old employer,
• 42:21
  Speaker 1: and you can see their logo up here, and one
• 42:24
  Speaker 1: of the key people on that panel speaking was as
• 42:26
  Speaker 1: you can see in that picture, Andy Burnham. So he
• 42:28
  Speaker 1: knows exactly who these people are, as exactly who Lord
• 42:31
  Speaker 1: Willits is, you know, is exactly what he's doing, and
• 42:33
  Speaker 1: that he's helping to stitch up the British economy for
• 42:37
  Speaker 1: the benefit of the corporatus, the corporatis. Yeah, exactly, go Labor. Fantastic, Okay,
• 42:46
  Speaker 1: So look we're going to bring things a little bit
• 42:48
  Speaker 1: more down to earth. We talk a lot about geopolitics
• 42:52
  Speaker 1: and the big things happening internationally, but just as importantly,
• 42:55
  Speaker 1: and in fact, in many ways more importantly, are the
• 42:58
  Speaker 1: things going on in our our own postcodes. And I
• 43:02
  Speaker 1: will say that I am extremely lucky, living as I
• 43:05
  Speaker 1: do today in Plymouth to have this as my local park.
• 43:09
  Speaker 1: This is Tottill Park in the Saint Dudes area of Plymouth.
• 43:15
  Speaker 1: It is a fantastic little public park. It's got an
• 43:20
  Speaker 1: amazing children's adventure playground, is extremely popular with families and
• 43:25
  Speaker 1: it is exceptionally well kept as well, so the friends
• 43:29
  Speaker 1: of Tottill Park do an extraordinary job of keeping it clean.
• 43:34
  Speaker 1: They litter pick every day, they're constantly outplanting, tending, watering,
• 43:39
  Speaker 1: and the whole thing looks phenomenal. And it's not just
• 43:42
  Speaker 1: a great park, it's also a vital community hub. And
• 43:46
  Speaker 1: there is a cafe and a community center in the
• 43:49
  Speaker 1: southeast corner of the park and at the moment, unfortunately
• 43:54
  Speaker 1: that is being run out of this temporary structure because
• 44:00
  Speaker 1: the local council, for some inexplicable reason, decided to come
• 44:06
  Speaker 1: along a few months ago and say that the existing
• 44:08
  Speaker 1: structure which you can see here, so that's the cafe
• 44:10
  Speaker 1: as it normally is in the center, and then the
• 44:13
  Speaker 1: community center on the right hand side where they do
• 44:15
  Speaker 1: all sorts of activities. That's been there since the end
• 44:18
  Speaker 1: of the Second World War. It was built by American
• 44:22
  Speaker 1: service personnels, a thank you to the people of Plymouth
• 44:25
  Speaker 1: for hosting them. And a few months ago Plymouth Council
• 44:28
  Speaker 1: came in and they decided that it's no longer safe
• 44:31
  Speaker 1: and they're going to shut it down. And this has
• 44:34
  Speaker 1: had an enormous knock on impact on the local communication.
• 44:38
  Speaker 2: They just come in and say we're shotting.
• 44:40
  Speaker 1: It, no discussion whatsoever. So I decided to go down
• 44:44
  Speaker 1: there and have a chat to some of the local
• 44:47
  Speaker 1: residents to hear what had been going on.
• 44:51
  Speaker 10: This calf is quite a nucleus for the people down there,
• 44:54
  Speaker 10: not just a calf, but the whole building itself is
• 44:57
  Speaker 10: a big past of their community. Once long ago, the
• 45:01
  Speaker 10: council came down and on the fier gate and they
• 45:04
  Speaker 10: did a quick inspection and decided that it wasn't up
• 45:06
  Speaker 10: the standard anymore and they were going to closing. So
• 45:09
  Speaker 10: we closed the whole building, which is a bit strange
• 45:11
  Speaker 10: because Lucy, who runs the cafe, actually got a survey
• 45:16
  Speaker 10: done by the council. She paid for other three grand
• 45:18
  Speaker 10: I think she'll probably tell her that later on, to
• 45:20
  Speaker 10: actually make sure that this place was fit for purpose.
• 45:23
  Speaker 10: So she paid all that money to be told it
• 45:26
  Speaker 10: was fit for purpose for them to come along a
• 45:28
  Speaker 10: few years later. So no, it's not for purpose. We're
• 45:31
  Speaker 10: closing it. And at the moment there, who doesn't look
• 45:37
  Speaker 10: as though it's going to be open again anywhere near
• 45:39
  Speaker 10: soon Because she's been badgering them to try and find
• 45:42
  Speaker 10: out what's happening with the building and she's just getting
• 45:45
  Speaker 10: no answers. And of course surround here in Saint Ju's
• 45:48
  Speaker 10: we had places like the Soldier Club, the Fiery, the Grenville,
• 45:50
  Speaker 10: which were social places for people to go to. All gone.
• 45:54
  Speaker 10: So in this area now, as far as I'm aware,
• 45:56
  Speaker 10: apart from up at Mount Gould, there's nowhere for anybody
• 45:59
  Speaker 10: to go meat and sit down like we do. And
• 46:02
  Speaker 10: there's quite a few you know, servicemen you come down here,
• 46:04
  Speaker 10: as well as obviously a lot of further local people
• 46:07
  Speaker 10: who come down here. Quite diverse, lots of different people,
• 46:10
  Speaker 10: different backgrounds, and that's why we sit here and have
• 46:12
  Speaker 10: a good chat about all the different things we do.
• 46:17
  Speaker 2: I'd just say, Ben, really great to see you out
• 46:19
  Speaker 2: there with local people. I know already from comments coming
• 46:23
  Speaker 2: into our chat box that some of our audience today
• 46:25
  Speaker 2: are saying, Yeah, it's terrible how councils do this sort
• 46:29
  Speaker 2: of messing up local people. We're going to join the
• 46:32
  Speaker 2: dots as we move through this little report, because this
• 46:36
  Speaker 2: isn't just a local issue. There's something actually much much
• 46:39
  Speaker 2: bigger going on here.
• 46:40
  Speaker 1: It certainly is. Yeah, and I just think this is
• 46:43
  Speaker 1: absolutely shocking. You know, you've got a local business owner
• 46:47
  Speaker 1: Lucy who runs the cafe, who moved in there about
• 46:50
  Speaker 1: three years ago, and she actually paid out of her
• 46:52
  Speaker 1: own pocket for a study to make sure that the
• 46:55
  Speaker 1: building it was up to regulation. And they just come
• 46:59
  Speaker 1: in and said, three years down the track there actually
• 47:01
  Speaker 1: isn't anymore. Nothing's changed apart from someone in the council
• 47:05
  Speaker 1: office has decided that well maybe they want to do
• 47:08
  Speaker 1: something else with the with the space there, who knows.
• 47:12
  Speaker 1: But I think the most important thing is that this
• 47:14
  Speaker 1: is a This is a crucial social place for people
• 47:17
  Speaker 1: in the community to come together and spend time together.
• 47:22
  Speaker 1: And it's generally mothers and their children during the week,
• 47:27
  Speaker 1: and then pensioners, you know, so you get the younger
• 47:30
  Speaker 1: generation and the older generation. It's a really nice place
• 47:32
  Speaker 1: for them to come together and spend some time. There's
• 47:34
  Speaker 1: a lot of people who live alone these days. During
• 47:36
  Speaker 1: the winter months. It's actually a refuge for people, particularly
• 47:42
  Speaker 1: with the cost of heating the home.
• 47:46
  Speaker 2: Go somewhere warm and.
• 47:48
  Speaker 1: Exactly so you can think, I'm going to go there
• 47:49
  Speaker 1: for a few hours, I'm going to spend some time
• 47:52
  Speaker 1: going to meet some people, and it's amazing, Like it
• 47:55
  Speaker 1: was so uplifting listening to local residents talk about the
• 47:59
  Speaker 1: positive impact to the cafe and the community center and
• 48:02
  Speaker 1: just quite how struck they've been by the council's decision
• 48:06
  Speaker 1: to shut the whole thing down. Now. It's also as
• 48:09
  Speaker 1: well as just being a community hub, this is also
• 48:11
  Speaker 1: the place where the Friends of Tottill Park, the people
• 48:15
  Speaker 1: who tend to the flowerbeds and do the litter picking,
• 48:19
  Speaker 1: store their tools and coordinate all of their efforts. And
• 48:23
  Speaker 1: I had the opportunity to talk to Caroline, who was
• 48:26
  Speaker 1: one of a group of I believe twelve ladies involved
• 48:30
  Speaker 1: in the Friends of Tottill Park about what they've been
• 48:32
  Speaker 1: up to and the impact this has had on their work.
• 48:36
  Speaker 11: If I want to get a few strokes during the day,
• 48:38
  Speaker 11: all I need to do is come out here and
• 48:40
  Speaker 11: people stop and say, wow, you know, we just love
• 48:42
  Speaker 11: what you've done to the park, you and the team.
• 48:46
  Speaker 11: You know, please keep it up because we make a
• 48:48
  Speaker 11: point of coming here every day and bringing the kids,
• 48:50
  Speaker 11: and we put labels around the new planting so that
• 48:55
  Speaker 11: people know what the flowers are called. Grandparents can bring
• 48:58
  Speaker 11: the grand children. Well, you know that's a Mexican daisy
• 49:02
  Speaker 11: there or right, so you know that's really for people
• 49:06
  Speaker 11: as well in the past time they monetary donations, absolutely
• 49:10
  Speaker 11: different things.
• 49:11
  Speaker 7: And it is and it can't express it, you know,
• 49:14
  Speaker 7: any better than it is an entire community down here.
• 49:18
  Speaker 11: Yeah, and people quite often who've been brought up here.
• 49:22
  Speaker 11: So this park has never looked the way it does now.
• 49:25
  Speaker 11: It just looks cared for, whereas before, even when the
• 49:28
  Speaker 11: council did have a full complement of gardeners, I guess
• 49:32
  Speaker 11: it was a lot more sort of municipal or something,
• 49:34
  Speaker 11: but people didn't feel the same ownership that they seem
• 49:38
  Speaker 11: to feel now.
• 49:42
  Speaker 1: So they've actually transformed, not just the part of the
• 49:46
  Speaker 1: entire local area.
• 49:47
  Speaker 2: Yes, as a result of a genuine community efforts brought
• 49:53
  Speaker 2: together by the community people working together under their own steam. Yes,
• 49:58
  Speaker 2: it's produced results.
• 50:00
  Speaker 1: It's just a beautiful example of what communities will do
• 50:03
  Speaker 1: when left to their own devices.
• 50:05
  Speaker 2: Crazy city council comes in and effectively starts to smash
• 50:09
  Speaker 2: it to pieces.
• 50:10
  Speaker 1: Yeah, because they don't control it. This is happening organically.
• 50:14
  Speaker 1: And while at the same time was it thirty five
• 50:17
  Speaker 1: million or thirty seven million pounds being spent on the
• 50:20
  Speaker 1: center of Plymouth to create a new park and water
• 50:24
  Speaker 1: feature in the center of the city while actual communities
• 50:29
  Speaker 1: are being disrupted and undermined. I don't know, was that
• 50:34
  Speaker 1: a mile away, you know, to the east of the city.
• 50:37
  Speaker 1: It's completely it's completely inexplicable, like there's no logical way
• 50:42
  Speaker 1: to understand this. I would say, can I just get
• 50:45
  Speaker 1: the flowerbed back on screen? By the way, So that
• 50:47
  Speaker 1: was Caroline speaking on behalf of the friends of Tottill Park.
• 50:50
  Speaker 1: They do a fantastic job. I walk through this park
• 50:53
  Speaker 1: every day and I've got to say it is a
• 50:55
  Speaker 1: really great place, and not least due to their to
• 50:59
  Speaker 1: their fantastic effort. They've been running a petition. They actually
• 51:05
  Speaker 1: had an online petition going which got to about two
• 51:08
  Speaker 1: thousand names, but then apparently the council said that they
• 51:11
  Speaker 1: wouldn't accept it, and they'd only accept a petition that
• 51:14
  Speaker 1: was run through the council website.
• 51:16
  Speaker 2: Of course, because they only accept petitions that are going
• 51:19
  Speaker 2: to say what the council want their petitions to sell.
• 51:22
  Speaker 2: The petitions to say. This is what Andy Burnham was
• 51:25
  Speaker 2: hinting about. You can ask me questions, we will choose
• 51:29
  Speaker 2: which questions we choose to answer. Yeah, it's the same
• 51:32
  Speaker 2: policy exactly.
• 51:35
  Speaker 1: And then finally let's just listen to a short clip
• 51:38
  Speaker 1: from Pamela the Gangster Granny and what does this cafe
• 51:45
  Speaker 1: mean to you?
• 51:46
  Speaker 9: It means everything, yeah, because well I've been here for
• 51:50
  Speaker 9: three years now and little Picky and we met everyone
• 51:54
  Speaker 9: down here. We started a garden committee and there's about
• 52:01
  Speaker 9: twelve of us on a garden committee. We've even planted
• 52:06
  Speaker 9: some herbs for people if they want to cook with herbs,
• 52:10
  Speaker 9: and somebody one of the friends does all labels for everything,
• 52:15
  Speaker 9: so you know what you're picking, and we come down
• 52:19
  Speaker 9: and help water as well.
• 52:22
  Speaker 1: It's a beautiful park.
• 52:23
  Speaker 9: It is a beautiful park because we all look after
• 52:27
  Speaker 9: it and it means a lot, especially when it was cold.
• 52:34
  Speaker 9: We used to come down and or sit together and
• 52:36
  Speaker 9: have a coffee in there, and you know, and sit
• 52:40
  Speaker 9: together and talk about different things. So I was born
• 52:43
  Speaker 9: and brought up in Plymouth, but it's certainly changed a lot.
• 52:49
  Speaker 9: I think maybe the government who was supposed to be
• 52:52
  Speaker 9: for the people, it's not for the people anymore, is it.
• 52:55
  Speaker 1: I think that's certainly true. A great little comment at
• 53:00
  Speaker 1: the end.
• 53:01
  Speaker 2: The government for the people is not for the people anymore.
• 53:04
  Speaker 2: So this grandmother gets it. She understands what's happening politically,
• 53:11
  Speaker 2: But Laura Kensburg from the BBC absolutely hasn't got a
• 53:15
  Speaker 2: clue what's going on.
• 53:16
  Speaker 1: She certainly doesn't know that that was a great little
• 53:18
  Speaker 1: clip there, And apologies for the background noise that I
• 53:22
  Speaker 1: think we could hear what everyone was saying is certainly
• 53:24
  Speaker 1: get the sentiment of it. And I would just point
• 53:26
  Speaker 1: out a couple of local councilors who were mentioned while
• 53:30
  Speaker 1: I was there. I would just say, let's let's give
• 53:32
  Speaker 1: a little bit of recognition to Iron Driver, who is
• 53:36
  Speaker 1: the brand new counselor Green Party counselor for Sutton and
• 53:40
  Speaker 1: Matt Gold that for that ward, he's actually done some
• 53:45
  Speaker 1: really good work by the sounds of it. And at
• 53:47
  Speaker 1: the beginning of this process, the councilor wouldn't even acknowledge
• 53:51
  Speaker 1: that anything had happened, so they shut the venue down
• 53:55
  Speaker 1: then wouldn't even discuss it, discuss it. So basically no, no,
• 53:59
  Speaker 1: nothing's happened at all, and he had to write a
• 54:01
  Speaker 1: public letter. He wrote an open letter that finally got
• 54:04
  Speaker 1: the council to actually acknowledge that something had happened here.
• 54:08
  Speaker 1: So well done, Iron, thank you very much for that,
• 54:10
  Speaker 1: and I hope that you stay engaged in this because
• 54:12
  Speaker 1: this is a really important issue. And then I should
• 54:14
  Speaker 1: also just know Sue Dan, who is also a counselor
• 54:18
  Speaker 1: for the certain amount of Gold World, but she's for
• 54:20
  Speaker 1: the Labor Party and Brian, you seem to recognize Sudan
• 54:24
  Speaker 1: is shed around here.
• 54:25
  Speaker 2: She's very long standing and I think many people would
• 54:29
  Speaker 2: say formidable. I certainly over the years have not always
• 54:32
  Speaker 2: agreed with her stance or the policies that she's backed.
• 54:36
  Speaker 2: But on this issue with we the UK column are
• 54:39
  Speaker 2: pointing out that where people start to do the right thing,
• 54:43
  Speaker 2: they need recognition for it and support for it. This
• 54:46
  Speaker 2: is how you challenge the system that's ultimately doing the
• 54:50
  Speaker 2: wrong things. So yeah, Sue Dan's very interesting to see
• 54:55
  Speaker 2: her coming on board because in doing this she will
• 54:58
  Speaker 2: be in direct conflict with the leadership.
• 55:00
  Speaker 1: Of oh, she's not doing anything, she's not doing enough,
• 55:04
  Speaker 1: Byron is doing something. Sudan is just a counselor in
• 55:07
  Speaker 1: that ward.
• 55:08
  Speaker 2: So it's well, there we are then, Yeah.
• 55:11
  Speaker 1: So maybe so maybe counselor Dan, you should you should
• 55:15
  Speaker 1: you know, get involved in this, Yeah, exactly, And if
• 55:19
  Speaker 1: we could just get back that back on screen quickly,
• 55:21
  Speaker 1: I'll just leave a final comment Hair, which is reopen
• 55:23
  Speaker 1: the center. We need our cafe in our community center
• 55:27
  Speaker 1: on Tartill Park. And this is going on across the country.
• 55:30
  Speaker 1: This exact approach of councils meddling and intervening with stable
• 55:38
  Speaker 1: and valuable social systems appears to be part of the
• 55:42
  Speaker 1: modus operandi of this emergent totalitarian state.
• 55:46
  Speaker 2: And this is going to magnify, it's going to increase
• 55:49
  Speaker 2: under Andy Burnham, because what Andrey Burnham is building is
• 55:53
  Speaker 2: centralized control like we've never seen in this country before.
• 55:57
  Speaker 2: Now just to reinforce this angle that where you're seeing
• 56:02
  Speaker 2: local people and projects coming under direct attack. This has
• 56:06
  Speaker 2: reason for this. This is the incoming political agenda, and
• 56:09
  Speaker 2: I won't say that. Tomorrow at one o'clock we're going
• 56:12
  Speaker 2: to be playing out my interview with Martin Brighton, the
• 56:16
  Speaker 2: amazing man who took on Sheffield City Council for fraud
• 56:20
  Speaker 2: and corruption, but his journey then eventually led him into
• 56:24
  Speaker 2: the cover up of child abuse and subsequently he was
• 56:28
  Speaker 2: raided by the police. So tomorrow one o'clock that will
• 56:31
  Speaker 2: be going out. We just listened to the clip again
• 56:34
  Speaker 2: because you can hear Martin Brighton describing this very system,
• 56:40
  Speaker 2: beginning with what happened to his wife who was involved
• 56:43
  Speaker 2: in the community. Think about what Martin is saying going
• 56:47
  Speaker 2: back some thirty years in relation to what we've just
• 56:50
  Speaker 2: seen happening in Plymouth. Is the clip.
• 56:55
  Speaker 12: I do indeed, yes, the the the memory is when
• 57:01
  Speaker 12: it kicked off and just coming home one afternoon we're
• 57:07
  Speaker 12: talking about nearly thirty years ago now, and my wife
• 57:12
  Speaker 12: was crying on the settee and she'd been told that
• 57:17
  Speaker 12: she wasn't going to be involved in the community center anymore.
• 57:21
  Speaker 12: She was no longer to be a volunteer. They were
• 57:24
  Speaker 12: going to take her clients, the play group and the
• 57:27
  Speaker 12: building and none of this was legal, but she wouldn't
• 57:33
  Speaker 12: know because someone from the council said it was all
• 57:38
  Speaker 12: a done deal. Now, at that time, I was acting
• 57:42
  Speaker 12: as an auditor, so I started asking the questions where's
• 57:47
  Speaker 12: all this coming from? And it was at that time
• 57:51
  Speaker 12: when I started to dig deep that I realized that
• 57:56
  Speaker 12: from central government topped down, they were appropriating European funds
• 58:04
  Speaker 12: and using it for their own agenda, not for the
• 58:08
  Speaker 12: benefit of the people, and if anyone got in the way,
• 58:11
  Speaker 12: they were removed.
• 58:14
  Speaker 2: So absolutely on the button, incredible interview extremely brave man,
• 58:19
  Speaker 2: so join us tomorrow at one o'clock in order to
• 58:22
  Speaker 2: hear what Martin had to say about the whole thing.
• 58:27
  Speaker 1: And he just described the same process.
• 58:29
  Speaker 2: Exactly the same crisis. The point we are making here
• 58:31
  Speaker 2: on today's UK column News is don't underestimate the attack,
• 58:37
  Speaker 2: the political attack on just individuals and community projects. This
• 58:42
  Speaker 2: demonstrates the brutality that is coming with Andy Burnham's centralized
• 58:48
  Speaker 2: power base and the mail system of city mayors. But
• 58:52
  Speaker 2: I just added in here that I had an email
• 58:54
  Speaker 2: from Martin in the last couple of days where he's
• 58:57
  Speaker 2: posted detail about the fact that it's a year since
• 59:02
  Speaker 2: all of his research thirty years research seized by South
• 59:07
  Speaker 2: Yorkshire Police. They don't want the truth coming out about
• 59:10
  Speaker 2: the financial corruption or the cover up child abuse. And
• 59:14
  Speaker 2: in the text, Martin's also saying that secret meetings took
• 59:18
  Speaker 2: place between South Yorkshire Police and the judge in his case.
• 59:23
  Speaker 2: And so now Martin is asking whether he's got any
• 59:26
  Speaker 2: chance of a fair trial or not. So this is
• 59:29
  Speaker 2: the key thing that basically when people do stand up,
• 59:34
  Speaker 2: they are definitely going to come under attack. But if
• 59:37
  Speaker 2: they've got enough support from other friends, family and indeed
• 59:40
  Speaker 2: the general public, then a very powerful challenge can be made,
• 59:44
  Speaker 2: So don't underestimate your position at the bottom of the pile.
• 59:48
  Speaker 2: When enough people stand together, they can achieve amazing things.
• 59:53
  Speaker 2: Now we just want to give another little mention to
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  Speaker 2: Rodney Atkinson. UK Column reported is death a little while ago,
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  Speaker 2: and I just wanted to say that The Times has
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  Speaker 2: finally caught up. But we describe Rodney Atkinson as a
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  Speaker 2: fearsome campaigner standing up for constitutional issues, but here he
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  Speaker 2: gets described as a euro skeptic economist. So this is
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  Speaker 2: The Times effectingly, effectively trying to undermine the memory of
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  Speaker 2: this incredible man. But if you've got a copy of
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  Speaker 2: the latest edition of the Column, then you will see
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  Speaker 2: that I did put a report in this on Rodgie
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  Speaker 2: Atkinson here and amongst other things, you can read about
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  Speaker 2: him in his own words, because we decided to take
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  Speaker 2: his words from his website to describe him. And we're
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  Speaker 2: also going to say that if you go to the
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  Speaker 2: UK Column website then Diane Rasmussen interviewed Rodney a little
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  Speaker 2: while ago. Solution to corporatis fascism, there's the word ben
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  Speaker 2: fascism is spot on and false political construct and we
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  Speaker 2: think this might be the last interview that he actually did,
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  Speaker 2: so we're very honored that what he decided to do
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  Speaker 2: that with us, and well done to Diane Rasmussen. Now
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  Speaker 2: we're going to end just on the subject to the media.
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  Speaker 2: We're going to try and lighten the mood a little bit.
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  Speaker 2: Let's remember that the government of the United Kingdom has
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  Speaker 2: now been talking for some time about the suppression of
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  Speaker 2: social media, alternative new media such as the UK column
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  Speaker 2: and giving more support, more funding to the likes of
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  Speaker 2: the BBC and the other big corporate media channels because
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  Speaker 2: apparently they are the only channels that we should believe.
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  Speaker 2: So I've chosen a few clips here. There's two clips
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  Speaker 2: from the BBC. I think one is ITV. But let's
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  Speaker 2: have a look at how the BBC views itself and
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  Speaker 2: very please to see people mocking this clip as it
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  Speaker 2: was posted.
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  Speaker 13: Apart from the traitors strictly raising two point five billion
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  Speaker 13: for charity, local news and radio CBBS contributing over six
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  Speaker 13: and a half billion to the economy. So, David Attenborough, gladiators,
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  Speaker 13: Gavin and Stacey, what has the BBC ever done for me?
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  Speaker 13: Find out on BBC iPlayer.
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  Speaker 2: Well, he doesn't realize it, but of course the BBC
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  Speaker 2: has effectively destroyed his mind and the BBC is working
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  Speaker 2: hard to hard to destroy the minds of children in
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  Speaker 2: this country. That's why the focus is so childish and cartoonish.
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  Speaker 2: But it's not just the BBC. This is another clip
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  Speaker 2: here where we're very sad that somebody I don't even
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  Speaker 2: know who they are and I don't care, has had
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  Speaker 2: to leave Love Ireland.
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  Speaker 3: The public have been voting to save one couple.
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  Speaker 14: The couple with the fewest votes will be dumped.
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  Speaker 10: I don't know what's.
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  Speaker 6: Exactly that couple is.
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  Speaker 1: Prior and Aiden.
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  Speaker 6: Please say your goodbyers and leave the villa.
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  Speaker 2: So while they're leaving the villa, basically the UK column
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  Speaker 2: report talking about the important issues unfolding in UK and
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  Speaker 2: the Love Island team are going to be caught up
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  Speaker 2: in it the end of the day. So pathetic, pathetic
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  Speaker 2: stuff being pushed out by the main channels to capture
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  Speaker 2: people's minds. But let's end and with some really good news,
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  Speaker 2: and that is the BBC in further hot water as
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  Speaker 2: a result of closing down it's part of its operation
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  Speaker 2: north of the border. That's have a look at this report.
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  Speaker 15: Well, we've see Scotland arounds today that River City is
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  Speaker 15: to be axed after twenty years on our screens. They
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  Speaker 15: did say that it will have another twelve months before
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  Speaker 15: it's finally taken off air, but it certainly comes a
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  Speaker 15: shock to many as well, especially the people here who
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  Speaker 15: work at Dunbarton Studios where River City is produced.
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  Speaker 14: I don't know I watch it, but TV Film and
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  Speaker 14: Nana and Maganda watch it.
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  Speaker 10: So he's been there into his sister. Hi Scottish tailing.
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  Speaker 14: You can't get into Scottish tailing.
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  Speaker 15: And let's not forget the show has attracted a wide
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  Speaker 15: range of celebrities.
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  Speaker 14: But if you have some days now a bit older,
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  Speaker 14: I go, I deal to them. That's a lot of rubbish.
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  Speaker 14: Why because it's just nonsense, same stupid stories as this
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  Speaker 14: then doesn't Coronation just nonsense. I missed my money, I
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  Speaker 14: missed our tail. I used to watch it the other girl,
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  Speaker 14: but now I know I write it because it's rubbish
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  Speaker 14: and that's.
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  Speaker 15: Part of the reason you'd be presumably has been NX.
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  Speaker 14: Yeah, watch people feared, don't you? So who kills.
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  Speaker 2: So the man with the sunglasses gets my vote, of course,
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  Speaker 2: if more people vote by not paying the license fee,
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  Speaker 2: the BBC is going to be even short over and
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  Speaker 2: even shorter over and above its one hundred and twenty
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  Speaker 2: one million shortfall at the moment. So lots we've reported today.
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  Speaker 2: Andy Burnham is a coupe. There's no question of this.
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  Speaker 2: It's very very dangerous. Can local communities do things, yes,
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  Speaker 2: if they stand up and work together, and of course
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  Speaker 2: can can we hold mainstream media to account? Absolutely if
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  Speaker 2: we do the right things, you want image to finish
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  Speaker 2: on there.
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  Speaker 1: Well, and the battle is in your local area as well,
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  Speaker 1: we need to reinforce their to people. So yeah, just
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  Speaker 1: to just to wrap up, this was Hateur, you know,
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  Speaker 1: looking southwest towards Plymouth from Hator on the weekend, up
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  Speaker 1: and dark more extraordinary.
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  Speaker 2: Absolutely beautiful and a clear blue sky so that was
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  Speaker 2: nice to see, yes, and people enjoying themselves. Some people, ye,
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  Speaker 2: did find the heats a bit much, but of course
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  Speaker 2: no disaster as the BBC would have it.
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  Speaker 1: No, certainly, no, it's more of it, yes, certainly.
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  Speaker 6: Right.
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  Speaker 1: Okay, that's us for today. Thanks for everyone he's been
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  Speaker 1: all of that will be back on Wednesday at one
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