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I Am Princess Diana The Unforgettable Journey With The Amazing Brad Meltzer · Arroe Collins Like It's Live

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  Speaker 1: Enjoy your exploration. Dude, congratulations on this book, because I mean,
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  Speaker 1: you're really playing my fiddle when when you do something
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  Speaker 1: about Princess died, this is right here. She is the
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  Speaker 1: Queen of empathy still to this day inside my heart,
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  Speaker 1: you know.
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  Speaker 2: And that's where it's from. I've spoken to you about
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  Speaker 2: these books and now listen, illustrated kids books right for
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  Speaker 2: little kids to give my own kids. I started them
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  Speaker 2: to give them better heroes to look up to, right
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  Speaker 2: to give them heroes who warn't famous on Instagram or
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  Speaker 2: have a million followers, Like that's not a hero. That's
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  Speaker 2: someone who's amos and being a hero is more important.
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  Speaker 2: In the beginning, we started with I'm Amelia Earhart, I
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  Speaker 2: am Abraham Lincoln, I am Rosa Parks, And that's obvious.
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  Speaker 2: You know those are the obvious choices, right, That's who
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  Speaker 2: people would pick if you said pick the best heroes.
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  Speaker 2: You you know, Doctor King and Albert Einstein. But then
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  Speaker 2: when you're thirty books into the series, you start going, well,
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  Speaker 2: who do our kids need these days? And when I
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  Speaker 2: started looking around, I said, wait a minute, we need
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  Speaker 2: to teach our kids about empathy, and how do we
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  Speaker 2: teach empathy? And that's where we did. I am Princess Diana.
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  Speaker 1: Oh my god, I could probably do fifty sixty pages
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  Speaker 1: of all the things that she did that. I sat
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  Speaker 1: there and just got closer and closer and closer, and
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  Speaker 1: I think, I think, and I would love to know
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  Speaker 1: what yours is mine was was the dedication and loyalty
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  Speaker 1: she put in the in the minds that were still
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  Speaker 1: in the ground, and she went to these countries looking
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  Speaker 1: for these minds that could have easily blown up.
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  Speaker 2: We, off course, we put that in the book as
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  Speaker 2: you saw. I mean, you know that was in fact
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  Speaker 2: how in the book is It's one of her great moments.
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  Speaker 2: And you know what I love about Princess Diana is
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  Speaker 2: that empathy doesn't just start when she's an adult. You know,
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  Speaker 2: one of the things we do in the ordinary people
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  Speaker 2: change the world. Books is we always show you the
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  Speaker 2: hero when they're a kid. So they're drawing like kids.
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  Speaker 2: They look like kids that you know they look like.
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  Speaker 2: The reason kids love our books is because it's like
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  Speaker 2: a Chris Elliopolis. The artist draws each year. He has
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  Speaker 2: a style. It's like Charlie Brown meets Calvin and Hobbes.
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  Speaker 2: They're just lovable. And when you see Diana when she's
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  Speaker 2: a young girl, she's got this rough life. You know,
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  Speaker 2: like her parents get divorced. It's a really wealthy family.
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  Speaker 2: Everyone's like, you know, you grow up at you're rich
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  Speaker 2: and you have a fairy tale life. But her family
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  Speaker 2: didn't need dinner together. Her brother would he would, and
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  Speaker 2: her would he with the nanny and the nursery. Her
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  Speaker 2: parents never hugged her, never said they loved her, and
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  Speaker 2: you know, gets divorced and leave her feeling alone. But
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  Speaker 2: what she has is this grandmother. And her grandmother sweet
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  Speaker 2: and kind and used to visit the people in her
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  Speaker 2: town who were sick or they needed something that they
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  Speaker 2: couldn't afford. And Diana sees that and everyone tells you,
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  Speaker 2: you look like your grandmother. And that's where Diana gets
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  Speaker 2: it from is she gets that empathy by needing it herself.
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  Speaker 2: When she's little, she needs someone to love her, and
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  Speaker 2: that's obviously why we start showing and we can talk
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  Speaker 2: about all the other different things she does from there,
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  Speaker 2: but that's where it comes from.
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  Speaker 1: Well, I'll tell you one of the things that you
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  Speaker 1: inspired me to do, and I'm sure it's gonna be
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  Speaker 1: other readers as well, is that you brought me to
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  Speaker 1: the question of do I tell my dog or my
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  Speaker 1: family do I tell them I love them too much?
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  Speaker 1: Because I didn't have that either growing up, and it
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  Speaker 1: was like, do I say that too much? In fact,
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  Speaker 1: the story that I that I did today on iHeartRadio
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  Speaker 1: was based on do we tell our dogs we love
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  Speaker 1: them too much? And the answer is yes? And I went, WHOA,
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  Speaker 1: how can this be possible? And they said, because you
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  Speaker 1: can say words, Now put something with it and give
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  Speaker 1: me an activation. Princess Di activated it. She didn't just
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  Speaker 1: say it and that got it from your book, dude.
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  Speaker 2: No, I love that. I mean that, and listen, that's
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  Speaker 2: what she had to do, right. She when she's in school,
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  Speaker 2: she's not a great student. She actually does poorly, but
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  Speaker 2: every Tuesday and Thursday as a kid, they would go
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  Speaker 2: to a hospital for people who are physically disabled mentally disabled,
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  Speaker 2: and everyone when the doors would open, all these like
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  Speaker 2: sick old people would kind of roll on their wheelchairs
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  Speaker 2: tall the kids, and the kids are freaking out. It looks,
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  Speaker 2: you know, it feels like a zombie movie. And they
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  Speaker 2: used to like the kids would push the you know,
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  Speaker 2: the wheelchairs from behind, and instead she would meet people
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  Speaker 2: where they were. She'd go when there was a dance,
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  Speaker 2: instead of pushing the wheelchair from behind, she would go
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  Speaker 2: around to the front. So would you like to dance together?
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  Speaker 2: And again that's before she meets Charles, And yeah, she
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  Speaker 2: meets them and they get married and have the big
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  Speaker 2: wedding and all that. But you have to understand that
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  Speaker 2: when she takes becomes royalty. Royalty back then they'd have
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  Speaker 2: royal activities, right. They would like go out and you'd
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  Speaker 2: wave to the crowd and the crowd would wave back,
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  Speaker 2: and then your work was done. And they look around
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  Speaker 2: and they're like, where's Diana. And they see that she's
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  Speaker 2: reached down and she's hugging some kid and they're like,
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  Speaker 2: what's she doing with it? And they're like, she's hugging it, sir,
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  Speaker 2: And I know it sounds so obvious, but no one
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  Speaker 2: did that back then. That wasn't all over the world.
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  Speaker 2: He moved through the crowds, and you know, then she
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  Speaker 2: sees like people doing charity work. She's in a hospital
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  Speaker 2: and she sees this guy with his dying wife holding
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  Speaker 2: his wife's hand. So she goes over and puts his
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  Speaker 2: hand on, you know, her hand on this guy, and
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  Speaker 2: just says, I'm going to sit with you. And she
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  Speaker 2: realizes when she does these visits that where she sees suffering,
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  Speaker 2: that's where she wants to be. That's where she finally
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  Speaker 2: felt good about herself. And my god, what a lesson
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  Speaker 2: to teach your kids to take care of other people
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  Speaker 2: like that.
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  Speaker 1: Well, it's if she wanted to hug those that everybody
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  Speaker 1: else ran away from. She was always just present in
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  Speaker 1: their life. Make them feel like you're one of us.
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  Speaker 1: I'm not judging you, you're one of us. You're just
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  Speaker 1: as great and beautiful, just like one of us.
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  Speaker 2: Yeah, and let's talk about that because that's such a
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  Speaker 2: vital part. It's one thing to hug a little kid.
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  Speaker 2: But as she you know, as she gets you know,
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  Speaker 2: more comfortable here, she starts hugging people than no one,
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  Speaker 2: like you said, would hug my brother, right, Like, so
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  Speaker 2: she sees people with leprosy, right, And I remember growing
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  Speaker 2: up as a kid being like leprosy would just scared
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  Speaker 2: the hell out of me, Right, what is that? And
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  Speaker 2: she would go and hug people who had leprosy, she'd
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  Speaker 2: hug people who were homeless, she'd go and see people
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  Speaker 2: who are addicted to drugs. And then let's see camp,
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  Speaker 2: you know, the most important part, arguably his aides.
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  Speaker 1: I was just gonna bring that up. Oh my god,
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  Speaker 1: I was just gonna bring that up. That's so cool,
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  Speaker 1: you would bring that.
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  Speaker 2: Up, right, and like that's you know, so age. We
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  Speaker 2: all know now, like thank god they have things and
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  Speaker 2: treatments and think, but not then. And I remember back then,
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  Speaker 2: people were terrified. They didn't know if you if you
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  Speaker 2: hug someone with age, you're gonna get sick if they
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  Speaker 2: call on you to get AIDS. Like no one even
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  Speaker 2: knew in the beginning how you get AIDS. And she's
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  Speaker 2: not wearing any gloves and she's shaking people's hands. And
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  Speaker 2: there's this one visit we include in the book, and
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  Speaker 2: again it's a kid's book, but she says, you know,
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  Speaker 2: during this one visit to see an AIDS patient, she
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  Speaker 2: sees this man start crying when she holds his hands,
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  Speaker 2: and she wants to hug them to make them feel better.
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  Speaker 2: But she doesn't know what to do. No one knows
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  Speaker 2: what to do. And she tells herself, just do it,
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  Speaker 2: just just hug him, and so she reaches out. She
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  Speaker 2: squeezes this man tight. He squeezes her back, laughing with joy,
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  Speaker 2: and she realizes it's amazing what a hug can do.
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  Speaker 2: And hundreds of you know, first hundreds and then thousands
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  Speaker 2: and millions of people see her do this. She goes
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  Speaker 2: around with first Lady Barbara Bush at the time, who
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  Speaker 2: full credit to her, starts doing it like and that's
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  Speaker 2: where people start saying, oh, these aren't lepers, these aren't
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  Speaker 2: people we should forget about. But they're human beans. And
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  Speaker 2: it takes it takes Princess Diana to say, man, we
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  Speaker 2: got to start treating him like that.
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  Speaker 1: Please do not move. There's more with Brad Meltzer coming
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  Speaker 1: up next. The name of the book. I am Princess Diana.
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  Speaker 1: We are back with Brad Meltzer. I am a firm
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  Speaker 1: believer that this book served as a huge reminder in
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  Speaker 1: my heart. Why that I will walk with with a
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  Speaker 1: blind man through a grocery store and help them shop. Why,
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  Speaker 1: I'll you know, if there's somebody that is mentally challenged,
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  Speaker 1: then I will sit there and I will talk with
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  Speaker 1: them like they are like you and I and and
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  Speaker 1: and then their carekeeper looks at me like I'm strange.
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  Speaker 1: I'm going no, no, no, no, no, do not do
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  Speaker 1: what you're what, don't don't undo what we're doing right now,
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  Speaker 1: because this man, this lady is really getting into being
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  Speaker 1: recognized as a human being.
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  Speaker 2: Yeah, and that's the you know, that's the key thing
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  Speaker 2: is is not just you know, like you said, saying it,
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  Speaker 2: but doing it. Yes, And what I what I love.
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  Speaker 2: You know, she her sons are born obviously you know
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  Speaker 2: you have She has these two boys, and what she
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  Speaker 2: starts doing is taking them to serve with her. But
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  Speaker 2: here's the part that I didn't know, even though when
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  Speaker 2: I was researching the book that I found out, I
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  Speaker 2: never knew this part of the story is she used
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  Speaker 2: to go to homeless shelters to feed the poor, but
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  Speaker 2: she didn't bring the cameras. She didn't want her kids
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  Speaker 2: to see. You know, like that there was a performance
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  Speaker 2: art of some sort or some performative action, you know,
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  Speaker 2: when she would tell them like, you know, not having
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  Speaker 2: a home doesn't make you different than anyone else. And
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  Speaker 2: also the most important lesson that the best good deeds
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  Speaker 2: are never seen by anyone, but they're never forgotten. And now, man,
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  Speaker 2: that's what I Am Princess Diana is all about, is
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  Speaker 2: leading with your heart and showing people that rather than
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  Speaker 2: just talking about it, rather than just making it performative.
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  Speaker 2: And I want my daughter to have that lesson. I
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  Speaker 2: want my sons to have that lesson. I want them
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  Speaker 2: to learn empathy. And I am Princess Diana as a
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  Speaker 2: kid's book. That's what it's designed to do, is teach
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  Speaker 2: that empathy.
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  Speaker 1: What I love about it is that it's coming at
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  Speaker 1: such a perfect time because it may not happen in
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  Speaker 1: your in my lifetime, but our kids and our grandchildren
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  Speaker 1: it's gonna happen in their lifetime. This is William's mom
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  Speaker 1: that you're talking about. And see and King William when
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  Speaker 1: he gets that job, everybody's gonna go, WHOA, who was
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  Speaker 1: his mom? Guess who wrote about it?
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  Speaker 2: Yeah? No, And I love that. And listen let's just
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  Speaker 2: talk for a moment about about the just because I
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  Speaker 2: don't want to let I can't. It will be a
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  Speaker 2: shamed town to talk about. But what you're talking about
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  Speaker 2: the land mines, yes, is this is after she gets divorced.
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  Speaker 2: She doesn't have to do anything anymore. She's not the
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  Speaker 2: royal anything. It's all dumb. And she finds out in Angola,
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  Speaker 2: Africa that there are seven kids who've been killed by
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  Speaker 2: land mines. All right. The soldiers had dug them buried
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  Speaker 2: him during the war, and the kids were playing soccer
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  Speaker 2: in a field that should have been clear to minds,
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  Speaker 2: but the minds were still there. And they basically have
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  Speaker 2: an event for her there and they're like, listen, we
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  Speaker 2: should cancel the event and she's like, no, I'm not canceling.
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  Speaker 2: We need to make sure this won't happen to anyone else.
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  Speaker 2: And they tell her, don't you know this isn't safe,
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  Speaker 2: and they put body armor on her, give her advisor
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  Speaker 2: and she's like, if I go, then the world will
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  Speaker 2: see what's happening. So the minefield at that point is
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  Speaker 2: only half cleared, and they're like, please be careful, and
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  Speaker 2: they and some people said it was dangerous, and she's like,
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  Speaker 2: and she takes off and starts walking through this minefield,
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  Speaker 2: and all these people and all these most important leaders
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  Speaker 2: see it, and basically the UN after her visit, one
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  Speaker 2: hundred and twenty two governments signed the Ottawa Tree to
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  Speaker 2: stop using minds that can hurt innocent people. And you know,
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  Speaker 2: it goes like this, like and this is what it
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  Speaker 2: says in the book, Like, you know, it can be
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  Speaker 2: hard or even scary to see someone suffering, and sometimes
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  Speaker 2: you want to turn away, but don't turn away. Offer
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  Speaker 2: a smile, a hand, or even a hug. And when
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  Speaker 2: you do, it'll be your crowning achievement. And man, I
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  Speaker 2: love the fact that I get to give that to kids.
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  Speaker 2: I love the fact that they get to take these
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  Speaker 2: books and find this story and find that lesson.
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  Speaker 1: She's the one that taught me the mantra of if
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  Speaker 1: people aren't happy to see me, they're happy that I
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  Speaker 1: see them. And I took from that and I believe
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  Speaker 1: that so heartedly. It's like, don't don't make them think
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  Speaker 1: that they're coming to see you. I'm coming to see them.
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  Speaker 2: I love that idea. I'm going to steal that. That's
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  Speaker 2: a beautiful idea. Yeah, no, it's and listen. The final
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  Speaker 2: pages of the book literally say this is what I'm
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  Speaker 2: going to you know, from I'm Princess Anna. It says,
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  Speaker 2: it's your turn now. The world needs more kindness, and
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  Speaker 2: it certainly needs more empathy. Compassion is a sign of strength.
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  Speaker 2: Every person you meet is going through something that you
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  Speaker 2: can't see. You won't be able to solve every problem,
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  Speaker 2: but when you open your arms and listen with love,
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  Speaker 2: you can make sure no one feels alone and says,
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  Speaker 2: I am Princess Diana. I lead from the heart.
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  Speaker 1: Your dedication doesn't your dedication also kind of symbolize that.
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  Speaker 1: I mean, because look at that circle that you created
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  Speaker 1: with the dedication inside the book.
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  Speaker 2: Yeah, let's talk about that. I love you for noticing that.
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  Speaker 2: So you know, whenever we get to the end, we've
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  Speaker 2: done again. This is a book I think thirty six
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  Speaker 2: in the series. So I've dedicated a lot of books
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  Speaker 2: to a lot of people, but this one I dedicated
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  Speaker 2: to my mother and my daughter because they're strong women
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  Speaker 2: who are unapologetically themselves. That's what Princess Dinna is to me,
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  Speaker 2: Like and I was. I've done other books to my mom,
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  Speaker 2: I've done other books to my daughter. But do you
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  Speaker 2: know my daughter in her in her college dorm room
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  Speaker 2: had a Diana poster. And I'll tell you something, my
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  Speaker 2: daughter now loves Prince Anna so much that at the
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  Speaker 2: end of the book. I always I'm hidden in every book.
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  Speaker 2: Chris always draws me like as a hidden cartoon character,
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  Speaker 2: like it's like Baldwere's Waldo in every book. But he
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  Speaker 2: also puts my three kids in there. And you can
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  Speaker 2: see if you flip through and flip back a couple
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  Speaker 2: of pages in the big crowd shot, you'll see these
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  Speaker 2: three kids. And always puts one of my kids in
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  Speaker 2: a forty two jersey because he loves Jackie Robinson. And
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  Speaker 2: in this book, I said, draw my daughter make a
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  Speaker 2: wearing the black dress that she loves so much, and
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  Speaker 2: she's wearing Princess Diana's dress. And I just I want
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  Speaker 2: my daughter to know that you should only just be
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  Speaker 2: unapologetically yourself. That's Diana's great superpower. Wow.
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  Speaker 1: Now, let me ask this question about the card or
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  Speaker 1: maybe I might be wrong on this. Did I see
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  Speaker 1: a card that people can add to their personal lives
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  Speaker 1: and share those cards forward?
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  Speaker 2: Share which cards? Well?
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  Speaker 1: I okay, then I am reading the pictures wrong then,
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  Speaker 1: because I swear it was like a greeting card of
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  Speaker 1: some sort and I and I took it as, oh,
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  Speaker 1: it's a Princess for the Day card, and it's and
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  Speaker 1: and it's and it's it's it's Princess di as a
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  Speaker 1: young child, but it's it's it's. I took it that
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  Speaker 1: your marketing cards to go with the book.
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  Speaker 2: Oh no, no, no, I think they just said they
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  Speaker 2: must have sent you a nice picture of it. No, yeah,
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  Speaker 2: we just uh, we we've made Oh you're talking about
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  Speaker 2: my social media.
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  Speaker 1: Everywhere that I went to find out about this book
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  Speaker 1: because you could.
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  Speaker 2: You know.
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  Speaker 1: It's like every time that I thought I had enough,
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  Speaker 1: I wanted more. That's that's the thing about this book
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  Speaker 1: is that you make us do you create action and reaction,
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  Speaker 1: but you always do with your books.
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  Speaker 2: No, I appreciate it. And listen, I love doing these books.
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  Speaker 2: You know that. And let's talk about for a moment.
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  Speaker 2: The next book we're doing is going to be again.
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  Speaker 2: I was like, what else do kids need? So we
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  Speaker 2: saw that kids needed, you know, I was like, mental
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  Speaker 2: health issues are huge. Now we did I am Simone Biles.
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  Speaker 2: I wanted to show America's just split in two right now.
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  Speaker 2: I was like, how do we teach people to come together,
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  Speaker 2: that there's strength and being together, that we bring different
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  Speaker 2: strengths to each thing. We did, we are the Beatles
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  Speaker 2: right like. But the next one that we're doing, which
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  Speaker 2: is coming out in a couple of months, is we're
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  Speaker 2: doing I Am Teddy Roosevelt because I really wanted Teddy Roosevelt,
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  Speaker 2: one of my favorite presidents of all time, and I
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  Speaker 2: wanted to show the kids what real leadership looks like
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  Speaker 2: and what Teddy Roosevelt. When he was little, his dad
• 16:00
  Speaker 2: said to him, Listen, we have lots of money, but
• 16:03
  Speaker 2: that doesn't make you great, like it doesn't make you powerful.
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  Speaker 2: Even what it does, it gives you a responsibility, is
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  Speaker 2: what his father told him. And you have to take
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  Speaker 2: care of other people, especially those who don't take care
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  Speaker 2: of themselves and can't. So see those orphans, whould tell
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  Speaker 2: Teddy Rossel, we got to take care of them and
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  Speaker 2: get them off the street. You see these people who
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  Speaker 2: are being treated badly in factories, fight for them. You
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  Speaker 2: see these giant waterfalls and these beautiful dams, and you know,
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  Speaker 2: things like this that people want to want to plow
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  Speaker 2: over so they can open a factory. No, we have
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  Speaker 2: to take care and have a responsibility to help our environment.
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  Speaker 2: And that's why Teddy Roosevelt starts the National park system.
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  Speaker 2: That's why we have Yellowstone, That's why we have Yosemite,
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  Speaker 2: That's why we have these national parks because Teddy Roosevelt
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  Speaker 2: was like, we need to protect these for the next generation.
• 16:50
  Speaker 2: And I love the fact that we get to use
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  Speaker 2: the IM books, whether it's IM Princess Diana, I am,
• 16:54
  Speaker 2: Teddy Roosevelt, or anyone we've spoken about today. I love
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  Speaker 2: the fact that we get to give these kids and
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  Speaker 2: people use our books to build libraries of real heroes
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  Speaker 2: for their kids and their grandkids, their nieces and nephews.
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  Speaker 1: One of these days, you've got to do a video
• 17:07
  Speaker 1: of the process of the entire thing and somehow some
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  Speaker 1: ways share it with those that have stood beside you
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  Speaker 1: the entire way, because it would be so interesting to
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  Speaker 1: see your process in the way of inspiring a next
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  Speaker 1: generation of writers as well as illustrators.
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  Speaker 2: Well, I love you saying that you know we get
• 17:25
  Speaker 2: I can't tell you how often we get a boy.
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  Speaker 2: We have all these kids who are writing, they write
• 17:29
  Speaker 2: the next hero for us. So I have a whole
• 17:31
  Speaker 2: stack on my desk. Got to you know that our
• 17:34
  Speaker 2: books that kids have written, and they've written Iron Ruthy Bridges,
• 17:37
  Speaker 2: they've written Iron Brad Meltzer, they've written I Am you
• 17:39
  Speaker 2: name the hero, and they're all like clearly gunning for
• 17:42
  Speaker 2: our jobs. I said, Chris and I are. Really we
• 17:44
  Speaker 2: got to worry now. But I love the fact that
• 17:47
  Speaker 2: kids have realized that they have the power to tell
• 17:50
  Speaker 2: these stories. And you know, the books have now been around,
• 17:53
  Speaker 2: I think almost twelve years, and it's the first time
• 17:57
  Speaker 2: when I went to speak at colleges people came up
• 17:59
  Speaker 2: to me and said, oh, I grew up on those books. Yep.
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  Speaker 2: And that's the thing, Because here's the thing. I can't
• 18:05
  Speaker 2: change the minds of adults. It's too hard. But for
• 18:09
  Speaker 2: the past over a decade now, I've been arming a
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  Speaker 2: generation of young kids with lessons of compassion and kindness
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  Speaker 2: and how to be a good person. And I will
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  Speaker 2: take that fight any day. So I love that the
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  Speaker 2: iambooks that the ordinary People Change the World books have
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  Speaker 2: had that impact on some of those kids out there.
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  Speaker 1: Wow, where can people go to find out more about
• 18:30
  Speaker 1: everything that you're doing? This isn't just one book, like
• 18:34
  Speaker 1: you said, this is your this is a catalog. When
• 18:37
  Speaker 1: they talked about Prince having a catalog or Michael Jackson
• 18:39
  Speaker 1: having a catalog, You've got a catalog.
• 18:43
  Speaker 2: You're a sweetheart. Yeah. And you can buy them at Amazon.
• 18:45
  Speaker 2: You can buy them at your local independent bookstore. You
• 18:47
  Speaker 2: can buy them at at bookshop dot org. You can
• 18:50
  Speaker 2: buy them anywhere books are sold. The imbooks are there
• 18:53
  Speaker 2: and you all recognize them because you'll see the sit
• 18:56
  Speaker 2: in that same artwork, that beautiful, colorful artwork. And I
• 19:00
  Speaker 2: love the fact that so many people, you know, you
• 19:03
  Speaker 2: can even subscribe to them on our website. You go
• 19:05
  Speaker 2: to Ordinary People, Change the World dot com. You can
• 19:08
  Speaker 2: have a book every month's ship to kid in your life,
• 19:11
  Speaker 2: and every month they'll get a new hero. And I'll
• 19:13
  Speaker 2: keep going in and we give all the profits. It
• 19:15
  Speaker 2: always runs through an independent bookstore by us. But again
• 19:18
  Speaker 2: you can go on Amazon or anywhere else and find
• 19:20
  Speaker 2: all the books.
• 19:20
  Speaker 1: I love what you're doing with your art. You are
• 19:22
  Speaker 1: you are working it the way that it's meant to be,
• 19:24
  Speaker 1: and that is to move people.
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  Speaker 2: Well, thank you, brother, listen, and the same thing with you,
• 19:29
  Speaker 2: I mean, you know you and I. You you've had
• 19:31
  Speaker 2: me on the show for and we've spoken about the
• 19:33
  Speaker 2: thrillers like The Viper, about the nonfiction books that I've done,
• 19:37
  Speaker 2: about the kids books and whatever genre I'm in. You
• 19:40
  Speaker 2: and I are speaking, and so I don't get to
• 19:42
  Speaker 2: do these kids books without you being there for the
• 19:44
  Speaker 2: first one. So thank you for unlocking to me, you know,
• 19:48
  Speaker 2: and not just with me, but with all your guests,
• 19:50
  Speaker 2: for your listeners. The most valuable thing in the world,
• 19:52
  Speaker 2: which is powerful as ideas. That's what you put in
• 19:56
  Speaker 2: the world and ideas, and every time you do a show,
• 19:58
  Speaker 2: you you unlock those kinds of ideas and I love
• 20:00
  Speaker 2: you for it.
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  Speaker 1: Wow. Well, we've got to be back together again in
• 20:03
  Speaker 1: two months when that next book comes out. We've got
• 20:04
  Speaker 1: to continue this because this is a journey that just
• 20:07
  Speaker 1: opens up imaginations. Thank you, brother, Will you'd be brilliant today. Okay,
• 20:12
  Speaker 1: mister Brad, thank you, sir.
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  Speaker 2: Appreciate it. Can't wait