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Colin Cowherd Podcast - Ravens Stun Cowboys, Chargers Keep “Chargering”, Drake Maye Regresses, Seahawks Lay An Egg · 3 and Out with John Middlekauff

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  Speaker 2: All right.
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  Speaker 1: The uh Ravens just beat the Cowboys on a walk-off
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  Speaker 1: 34-31 Tyler loop in what was a wildly, wildly entertaining
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  Speaker 1: game for the people, myself included, that say, why do
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  Speaker 1: you make these teams go to Brazil? They're going to
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  Speaker 1: be fatigued. That was great football. I thought the Cowboys
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  Speaker 1: had it won twice. I thought the Ravens had it
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  Speaker 1: won three times. Dallas didn't want to go to overtime.
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  Speaker 1: They had nobody left.
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  Speaker 3: In the secondary.
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  Speaker 1: I mean, again, you can nitpick everything.
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  Speaker 3: I was okay.
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  Speaker 1: The ball was caught and Zay Flowers was down with
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  Speaker 1: one second. Then you saw Lamar on the other shot,
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  Speaker 1: slow-mo by CBS calling time.
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  Speaker 2: So I was okay with that or you. Yeah, I
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  Speaker 2: got no issue with it. My main issue is we
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  Speaker 2: now start these drives at the 35. So if you
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  Speaker 2: have a kicker that has 60-ish range, which basically every
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  Speaker 2: kicker does, I mean, he just hit it from 56,
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  Speaker 2: looked like it would have been good from 75. You
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  Speaker 2: really just need to hit one kind of chunk play
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  Speaker 2: 20 yards. You and I are old enough to remember
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  Speaker 2: when most late drives would start at the 20, the
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  Speaker 2: game was over. It was done. So now, and listen,
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  Speaker 2: I think the league kind of likes this because you
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  Speaker 2: got to pay attention with 8, 9, 10 seconds left.
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  Speaker 2: How many times, this is not the first time we've
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  Speaker 2: seen this, you just have to hit one big play.
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  Speaker 2: They don't always hit the field goal, but you are
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  Speaker 2: on the edge of your seat and you cannot... What
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  Speaker 2: were the Cowboys doing? Letting him go right over the
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  Speaker 2: middle of the field. Wouldn't you take away the middle
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  Speaker 2: of the field? Especially him, their best wide receiver. I
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  Speaker 2: don't know. I mean, their drive also, when they were
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  Speaker 2: at the goal line, what were a couple of those
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  Speaker 2: pass plays?
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  Speaker 1: Incomplete fade route, offsides, near sack, incompletion. The final one,
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  Speaker 1: Dak was swearing. I don't know if it was miscommunication,
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  Speaker 1: but he sailed it. That was a very weak effort. Listen,
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  Speaker 1: both these teams had it won. And both these teams
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  Speaker 1: lost it several times. So you can say what you want.
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  Speaker 1: In the end, it was a wildly entertaining game. I mean,
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  Speaker 1: through three quarters, Lamar Jackson had thrown for 62 yards. Ha!
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  Speaker 1: And then as Jim Nance and J.J. Watt said that,
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  Speaker 1: he came out and they, you know, marched down the field.
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  Speaker 1: But I thought, you know, Dallas, when they stopped him
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  Speaker 1: on fourth and goal and then Dak hit C.D. Lamb
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  Speaker 1: for 50-plus yards, they marched down and scored. I was like, oh,
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  Speaker 1: this is a grown-up football operation.
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  Speaker 3: I will say this.
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  Speaker 1: In a loss, there was a lot about Dallas I liked.
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  Speaker 1: I mean, we can talk about their defense, overshown, not available,
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  Speaker 1: secondary banged up. this team's as good as Dak and
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  Speaker 1: Ferguson and Seedy and Pickens.
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  Speaker 3: They had some gash run plays.
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  Speaker 1: I was kind of, you know, I mean, I think Baltimore,
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  Speaker 1: if they played 10 times would win six to seven,
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  Speaker 1: but I kind of came away impressed with Dallas.
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  Speaker 2: Why those two wide receivers beside Higgins and Chase, and
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  Speaker 2: they're probably right there with them are as good as
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  Speaker 2: it gets. You know, I mean, Schottenheimer's really gassing up.
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  Speaker 2: George Pickens is the greatest training camp he's ever seen,
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  Speaker 2: but he's, He looks fantastic. Ferguson's awesome. I mean, their
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  Speaker 2: offensive weapons are legit. That's where I go back to.
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  Speaker 2: You get down to the goal line. They get the
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  Speaker 2: ball back with a minute 30. They drive right down
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  Speaker 2: the field. You've got a $ 60 million quarterback. You've got
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  Speaker 2: two $ 30, $ 40 million wide receivers. You've got a tight
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  Speaker 2: end who's big and who's very talented. You've got a
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  Speaker 2: quick guy that you can utilize. Their play calling– Maybe
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  Speaker 2: Dak was scared to take a sack on the third
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  Speaker 2: down and just let it out. But the first and
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  Speaker 2: second down play calls, they have as good of an
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  Speaker 2: arsenal as any team in the league. Brian Schottenheimer, I've
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  Speaker 2: supported him because I do think he's a pretty good
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  Speaker 2: offensive coach, but I think if you're Dallas... Obviously, we're
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  Speaker 2: going to talk a lot about the last play in
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  Speaker 2: the field goal, but those couple plays, you got a
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  Speaker 2: lot of money invested into that unit, and they've been
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  Speaker 2: kicking ass and taking names. That's hard. It's one thing
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  Speaker 2: if a guy trips or drops the ball. The plays
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  Speaker 2: were awful.
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  Speaker 3: They never had a chance, Collin.
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  Speaker 1: Yeah, I mean, that's kind of the difference with a
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  Speaker 1: Shanahan or a Sean Payton or an Andy Reid. You
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  Speaker 1: feel like– I remember Brady talking about this, how they
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  Speaker 1: would basically do red zone offense for like 60% of
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  Speaker 1: the practice. I mean, that's essentially what the Patriots worked on.
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  Speaker 1: Brady and Josh McDaniels, like that's– we knew we could
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  Speaker 1: march between the 30s. We just worked on red zone stuff.
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  Speaker 1: They didn't look terribly organized defensively. Lamar is now 3-0
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  Speaker 1: against the Cowboys, 127 passer rating, seven TDs.
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  Speaker 3: And one interception. There is a speed component.
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  Speaker 1: When you put Zay Flowers and Lamar on the field
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  Speaker 1: and At the same time, there's a dynamic offensively. I mean,
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  Speaker 1: how many times was Lamar trapped? One was taken away
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  Speaker 1: by a penalty. Zay Flowers, you know, when they paid
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  Speaker 1: him that money, I thought, that's a lot for a
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  Speaker 1: small receiver. John, he is so valuable to that offense.
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  Speaker 1: The Ravens and the Chiefs are well-run operations, but both
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  Speaker 1: have missed on receivers. several times in the draft. When
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  Speaker 1: you're drafting at the bottom of rounds, you're not getting
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  Speaker 1: the top three receivers. By the second round, you're maybe
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  Speaker 1: getting the seventh or eighth receiver. I thought that was
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  Speaker 1: one of those games that it's going to be a
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  Speaker 1: great flight home for the Ravens, and Dallas is going
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  Speaker 1: to kick themselves because the Ravens have issues on the
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  Speaker 1: back end. Neither secondary is very strong, and Dallas had
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  Speaker 1: that game within their grasp And on the third and goal,
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  Speaker 1: I mean, they took a flyer and Dak overshot it
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  Speaker 1: by five yards.
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  Speaker 2: And Wiggins is not, you know, his knock is not
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  Speaker 2: the athleticism, the competitiveness, his size. He's not a super
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  Speaker 2: tall corner. And you have tall, wide receivers. I also
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  Speaker 2: thought when they said that stat that he has, whatever,
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  Speaker 2: 65 yards or It's like, I feel like he's got
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  Speaker 2: way more watching these because they hit some PIs every
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  Speaker 2: time that he let it rip. I just assumed the
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  Speaker 2: guy was going to be wide open down the field.
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  Speaker 2: It's hard to trust. I mean, you know, Dallas went healthy.
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  Speaker 2: Their defense has some question marks. They have a million
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  Speaker 2: injuries going right now. They're in a tough spot. They
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  Speaker 2: have to win in shootouts. So you get in the
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  Speaker 2: shootout and you lose. And you're kind of dictating the terms.
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  Speaker 2: And you lose because you have to kick a field goal,
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  Speaker 2: not score a touchdown. I just can't get over how
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  Speaker 2: much they have invested on that offensive side of the
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  Speaker 2: ball to get down there. Because it felt like, what
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  Speaker 2: a great drive by Dallas. Get the ball back with 130,
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  Speaker 2: drive right down the field. Dax in complete control. Obviously,
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  Speaker 2: Lamar hits the great play, but Zay Flowers is wide open.
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  Speaker 2: Of course he is. The secondary has no clue where
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  Speaker 2: they're going. I just can't get over that ending, Colin.
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  Speaker 1: Yeah, Dallas is almost better when they need 15 yards
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  Speaker 1: than three. I really believe that. They're a great chunk
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  Speaker 1: play offense. Ferguson can go vertical. I mean, the receivers
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  Speaker 1: in Dak several times, ran today. They're really good at
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  Speaker 1: getting chunk plays. They're not great at getting short yardage.
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  Speaker 1: Baltimore's probably better at both, as they show you at
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  Speaker 1: the very end. And Derek Henry, who is, again, Nolan Ryan,
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  Speaker 1: he's absolutely ageless. All right, Buffalo 24, Chargers 16. I
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  Speaker 1: saw a stat earlier today. Listen to this stat. This
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  Speaker 1: was sent to me by my staff. This is incredible.
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  Speaker 1: So since 2013, this is 13 years, teams with five
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  Speaker 1: plus turnovers and a minus four turnover margin are 381.
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  Speaker 3: And one straight up.
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  Speaker 1: The three wins by teams that have a minus four
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  Speaker 1: turnover margin, the bills over the chargers today, The Jaguars
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  Speaker 1: over the Chargers in that playoff game three years ago,
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  Speaker 1: and the Broncos over the Chargers a decade ago. They
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  Speaker 1: call it Chargering. I have so many thoughts on this.
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  Speaker 1: Josh Allen had two early picks. They had three fumbles.
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  Speaker 1: They had 10 penalties. They played a B-rate game. I
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  Speaker 1: did think L.A. 's defense was better. But in the end, Herbert,
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  Speaker 1: I mean, I'm as big a fan as he has.
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  Speaker 1: He has lacked self-awareness. He has lacked feel. As Brady
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  Speaker 1: called it today, a meatball sub. One of his interceptions
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  Speaker 1: was awful. Now, he doesn't have a ton to work with.
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  Speaker 1: They're not great at receiver or tight end. their backs
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  Speaker 1: are okay, but they're not, they're, they're kind of slightly
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  Speaker 1: above average.
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  Speaker 3: They're not special.
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  Speaker 1: He doesn't have a ton to work with, right? Like
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  Speaker 1: he doesn't have Dax weapons. He, you know, he, he
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  Speaker 1: just doesn't, their weapons. They have not Harbaugh historically is
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  Speaker 1: not a wide receiver coach. A lot of average receivers
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  Speaker 1: at Stanford, San Francisco, Michigan. And now, I mean, Herbert
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  Speaker 1: was 20 of 34, really bad pick, but there's, I mean,
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  Speaker 1: maybe the OC plus Herbert. I, The interior line, it
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  Speaker 1: just doesn't look right. They played a very good first half,
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  Speaker 1: but they just can't get it out of their own way.
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  Speaker 2: Yeah, to me, the first half, Josh, they had the
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  Speaker 2: freak interception. He threw a bad interception. They had the fumble,
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  Speaker 2: and they're only up 10-0. It's like you played like
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  Speaker 2: you should be up 24-0. It's 10-0, and then all
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  Speaker 2: of a sudden it's 10-10 at the half. And at
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  Speaker 2: the end of the day, Quinn Johnson, he'll tease you,
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  Speaker 2: but it's 17-13 late in the game. Herbert hits him,
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  Speaker 2: and he drops it, and then he unravels. And then
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  Speaker 2: you know, it just felt like that, that kind of
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  Speaker 2: broke the dam because then Buffalo gets the ball back,
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  Speaker 2: scores a touchdown and it's over. And you could see
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  Speaker 2: it on Jim's Jim at Jim's once Jim ever been Oh,
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  Speaker 2: and three in his life since probably the playing days
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  Speaker 2: and like the early nineties, late eighties. So I don't
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  Speaker 2: know what the answers are. Their offense just isn't good enough.
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  Speaker 2: Because like you said, their defense showed up to play.
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  Speaker 2: We're making plays. They were hitting Josh. They were tackling.
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  Speaker 2: They were very physical. They look like a team that, hey,
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  Speaker 2: we're 0-2. We're paying a lot of people a lot
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  Speaker 2: of money. We have a $ 20 million coach. We're kind
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  Speaker 2: of a line in the sand type moment. And I
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  Speaker 2: was like, damn, the Chargers, this is a real performance.
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  Speaker 2: This is a real team. And then as the game went,
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  Speaker 2: I mean, Colin, they ended up losing 24-16. I mean,
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  Speaker 2: that's the crazy part. After it ends, you're like, wait,
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  Speaker 2: what just happened? And we've talked a lot about their schedule.
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  Speaker 2: I went back and I watched his game last week
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  Speaker 2: because I was like, oh, Herbert's bad like everyone. I
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  Speaker 2: didn't think he actually played that as bad as I think.
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  Speaker 2: He's running for his life. It's not as bad as
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  Speaker 2: people are acting.
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  Speaker 1: No, the film people all admit it's not as bad.
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  Speaker 1: Greg Cosell, Robert Mays, the guys that watch the film,
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  Speaker 1: everybody's like, listen, they have huge drops, the fumbles by
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  Speaker 1: the running backs, the O-line interiors, probably the worst in
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  Speaker 1: the league again.
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  Speaker 3: Terrible. So he's got two good tackles and one really
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  Speaker 3: good slot receiver. That's what he has.
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  Speaker 2: But if you play Buffalo and you get a Josh
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  Speaker 2: Allen game where he throws no touchdowns and has two
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  Speaker 2: picks and you sack him four times and you still
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  Speaker 2: lose by, you know, eight points, that's one of those
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  Speaker 2: where this– Are we headed toward five and 11, you know,
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  Speaker 2: four and just an implosion? And let's face it, Jim is,
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  Speaker 2: Jim's an intense, work harder, grind harder. You know, Jim
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  Speaker 2: doesn't pivot much, right? Jim has one way to do things.
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  Speaker 2: And in fairness to him, it's always worked. It's worked really,
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  Speaker 2: really well. I don't know what his other pitch is.
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  Speaker 2: And now you got Mike with the shades and the watch.
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  Speaker 2: I mean, that's the opposite of Jim Harbaugh. I mean,
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  Speaker 2: so I don't know. I think they have to. I
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  Speaker 2: think they're in major trouble, Colin.
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  Speaker 1: I think they have to give up draft picks and
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  Speaker 1: go get a receiver they trust. And then you could
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  Speaker 1: go get a receiver, pay for it, then you have that,
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  Speaker 1: Trey Harris, Ladd McConkie.
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  Speaker 3: I think Quentin Johnson, he's a bust. It doesn't work.
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  Speaker 3: First-round pick.
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  Speaker 2: Brady was calling this game this morning, right?
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  Speaker 3: Yeah, yeah, yeah.
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  Speaker 2: I think he was, because there were a couple throws.
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  Speaker 2: And he brought up a good point. I think he's
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  Speaker 2: talking essentially like him and Edelman. He's like, the deeper
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  Speaker 2: the shot goes to McConkie, the smaller the surface area goes. Ladd, McConkie, Edelman,
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  Speaker 2: Wes Welker, the great slot guys. And Ladd's a stud.
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  Speaker 2: He would play for everybody. You're not taking deep shots
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  Speaker 2: with him. But who else are they taking deep shots with?
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  Speaker 2: Look at the Cowboys. CeeDee Lamb, George Pickens, Jamar Chase, T. Higgins.
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  Speaker 2: And then you've got little lad. Georgia didn't take deep shots.
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  Speaker 2: You take deep shots over the shoulder throws. The pinpoint accuracy,
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  Speaker 2: Peyton Manning or Aaron Rodgers in this prime aren't going
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  Speaker 2: to hit those very often. Tom Brady's not. They don't
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  Speaker 2: even run those plays unless it's a trick play. And
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  Speaker 2: you feel like when you watch the Chargers play, They
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  Speaker 2: take a lot of shots with McConkie because I think
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  Speaker 2: they're kind of acknowledging, like, hey, he's the only guy
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  Speaker 2: we really trust. So even if it's a lower percentage,
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  Speaker 2: we definitely don't trust Quentin Johnson who, like you said, bust. And,
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  Speaker 2: you know, Trey Harris has actually had a– he has
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  Speaker 2: six catches for 76 yards. No, he's okay. But I
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  Speaker 2: just think taking shots to McConkie. These over-the-shoulder catches, that's–
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  Speaker 2: you do that to Randy Moss. You do that to
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  Speaker 2: Mike Evans. You don't do that to Ladd McConkie.
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  Speaker 1: Okay, Jags 35, Patriots 6. People are freaking out in Boston.
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  Speaker 1: First of all, it's not just offense. The Jags were
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  Speaker 1: five for five in the red zone. I think this
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  Speaker 1: Trevor Lawrence is the best Trevor Lawrence with Liam Cohen.
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  Speaker 3: This is what we thought he was going to be
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  Speaker 3: in the NFL.
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  Speaker 1: Good arm, moves well, sees the field, and he's got
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  Speaker 1: a great coach. Liam Cohen, if he was coaching in
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  Speaker 1: New York right now, would be the talk of the NFL.
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  Speaker 1: He is a great coach, former small college coach. quarterback.
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  Speaker 3: He's competitive.
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  Speaker 1: He and Robert Sala got feisty a couple of years ago.
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  Speaker 1: You know, that Denver game, you know, again, they lose
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  Speaker 1: big TV game. People say, ah, forget about it. Then
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  Speaker 1: they go home and they do this to you. They
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  Speaker 1: did this to the chargers. I think last year, they'll
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  Speaker 1: kick the living, you know, what out of you, if you,
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  Speaker 1: if you make mistakes. And so again, I think this
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  Speaker 1: is the best Trevor, but the story is Drake May.
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  Speaker 1: So he had a goal line pick that was brutal.
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  Speaker 1: He's missing open receivers and, Here comes the inevitable, Mike,
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  Speaker 1: what's wrong with your team? Did your off-field drama have
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  Speaker 1: anything to do with it, which will irritate the hell
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  Speaker 1: out of me? But, I mean, this kid last year,
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  Speaker 1: he's had seven turnovers in three games. He had 11
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  Speaker 1: all last season. I think the offensive line's probably better.
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  Speaker 1: You know, this has happened before, John. You know, it's
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  Speaker 1: like the sophomore slump where a guy comes in, Oh, Ken,
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  Speaker 1: he's a rookie. I think he makes the Pro Bowl,
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  Speaker 1: but he's rough. Then last year, he gets to the
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  Speaker 1: Super Bowl with an easy schedule. Well, their schedule's really,
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  Speaker 1: really tough. And, you know, he's still a kid. I mean,
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  Speaker 1: of all the quarterbacks in his class, he was the
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  Speaker 1: one that we said, he's the rawest. He is absolutely
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  Speaker 1: the most raw quarterback. Again, how many starts does he have?
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  Speaker 1: It's not a great O-line. They don't have A.J.
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  Speaker 3: Brown.
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  Speaker 1: Again, this is like Herbert. He doesn't have a ton
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  Speaker 1: right now to work with. They don't have a No.
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  Speaker 3: 1 receiver.
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  Speaker 1: They don't have a dominant back. Hunter Henry's a really
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  Speaker 1: good tight end. He's a great tight end. I'm going
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  Speaker 1: to defend another quarterback. He's playing very poorly. I don't
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  Speaker 1: think you sit him. But it's pretty bleak right now.
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  Speaker 1: There's not a lot of positivity. Even their defense got
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  Speaker 1: pushed around.
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  Speaker 2: Yeah, he looks terrible. I mean, the leads the league
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  Speaker 2: in turnovers, and obviously the pick to Travis Hunter in
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  Speaker 2: the back of the end zone, that looks like something
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  Speaker 2: a practice squad player. I mean, at one point in time,
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  Speaker 2: I saw Mike Reese, like his first turnover. Well, that
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  Speaker 2: ties Cooper Rush on the season for turnovers. And then
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  Speaker 2: he just kept having them as the game went on.
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  Speaker 2: I'm like, that's not good company to be in. The
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  Speaker 2: other thing is, Colin, he rolled out a couple times today.
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  Speaker 2: and missed open guys on the move, it's like, Drake,
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  Speaker 2: that's kind of your thing. Making plays, running to your right.
• 16:24
  Speaker 2: This is a guy that's lost confidence. As much as
• 16:27
  Speaker 2: it came and grew last year, it feels like it's
• 16:30
  Speaker 2: all gone. And I think sometimes when it leaves, especially
• 16:32
  Speaker 2: for young players, you feel like I'm never going to
• 16:35
  Speaker 2: get it back. And you see Vrabel talking to guys.
• 16:37
  Speaker 2: I don't think there's much you can do. Now, in fairness,
• 16:40
  Speaker 2: if you take all of last year, Even the playoff game,
• 16:44
  Speaker 2: Lawrence really had a couple bad plays. And then this year,
• 16:46
  Speaker 2: the Jags are playing as well as all but two
• 16:50
  Speaker 2: or three teams. They have been fantastic since the guy's
• 16:52
  Speaker 2: been there. Honestly, this year, what have they played? The
• 16:55
  Speaker 2: two games, eight good quarters. And then the Denver game,
• 16:58
  Speaker 2: 10 out of the 12 quarters, they have been awesome.
• 17:01
  Speaker 1: And they've won 10 of 11 regular season games they've won.
• 17:06
  Speaker 1: Many by blowout. Many on the road. First of all,
• 17:09
  Speaker 1: Parker Washington could be the most underrated player in the league.
• 17:12
  Speaker 3: In the league.
• 17:15
  Speaker 2: I feel like Trevor, I always thought he was a
• 17:18
  Speaker 2: little overhyped. I'm like, I'm not seeing luck. Good, excellent prospect.
• 17:22
  Speaker 2: I understood why he's a top pick. But they acted
• 17:25
  Speaker 2: like he was Elway. I'm like, pump the brakes. This
• 17:28
  Speaker 2: is the best. Like, this is the most complete he's looked.
• 17:31
  Speaker 2: You go back to last year, the way he played
• 17:33
  Speaker 2: for Liam. You go back to this year. But this
• 17:35
  Speaker 2: is where we talk a lot, like coordinators, right? Stafford
• 17:38
  Speaker 2: gets with Sean. Purdy with Kyle. Liam with Trevor. Josh is...
• 17:44
  Speaker 2: He's never coached a guy like this. He just hasn't.
• 17:47
  Speaker 2: His guy couldn't beat me or you in a race.
• 17:50
  Speaker 2: And it didn't matter. He's the greatest quarterback of all time.
• 17:52
  Speaker 2: Tom Brady said, I couldn't start at another position in
• 17:55
  Speaker 2: a high school game. He's the greatest quarterback of all time.
• 17:59
  Speaker 2: Josh is like... We've seen Josh also leave the nest
• 18:03
  Speaker 2: and go coach other guys. It's not working. Like, Josh is.
• 18:07
  Speaker 2: Josh got a lot of build to him. You listen
• 18:11
  Speaker 2: to his former players talk. He can go in and out.
• 18:13
  Speaker 2: He can be the tough guy, but he can love
• 18:15
  Speaker 2: you up. Josh is a northeastern, hard-ass. It's an intense
• 18:19
  Speaker 2: place to play offense. And it's a complicated offense. So
• 18:22
  Speaker 2: you start swimming intellectually. Then you start playing bad. And
• 18:26
  Speaker 2: he starts showing you clips of the offense that used
• 18:28
  Speaker 2: to run with Brady. There's a lot going on up there.
• 18:30
  Speaker 2: It's just an intense place to play.
• 18:32
  Speaker 4: And it.
• 18:34
  Speaker 2: I don't think– would you agree it couldn't have started
• 18:36
  Speaker 2: worse for a player? And A.J. Brown gets injured in
• 18:40
  Speaker 2: the first whatever half of the first game. He's out.
• 18:44
  Speaker 2: I mean, their wide receiver core isn't exactly Edelman and
• 18:47
  Speaker 2: Gronk out there.
• 18:48
  Speaker 1: Right.
• 18:48
  Speaker 2: So they can't run the ball. I don't know what
• 18:50
  Speaker 2: they ran for today. Probably not well because they were
• 18:52
  Speaker 2: down so big. And the other thing is we talk
• 18:55
  Speaker 2: a lot about the Jags offense. Defensively, they have a
• 18:57
  Speaker 2: lot of team speed, and that defensive coordinator– it's pretty good.
• 19:02
  Speaker 2: They are well coached. If the Jaguars were like the
• 19:05
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• 19:09
  Speaker 2: all the time. And, you know, just, they just happened
• 19:11
  Speaker 2: to play in a state where college football is bigger
• 19:13
  Speaker 2: and they're probably the smallest brand in the league, but
• 19:16
  Speaker 2: they are, they're a big time football team. And they
• 19:20
  Speaker 2: treated the Patriots like a JV team today. And I
• 19:23
  Speaker 2: think the May thing kind of scary. I mean, it's
• 19:26
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• 19:29
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• 19:32
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  Speaker 1: A really interesting game where, you know, I did an
• 21:20
  Speaker 1: essay this week where I said, like, Aaron's doing too
• 21:23
  Speaker 1: much spread formation. He doesn't want to run motion. And, uh, yet,
• 21:29
  Speaker 1: you know, the Steelers average seven yards of play. Now
• 21:31
  Speaker 1: the Bengals gave them 10 points on special teams, brutal, uh,
• 21:35
  Speaker 1: including a muff punt, which I mean, that that's high
• 21:37
  Speaker 1: school stuff. Like the Bengals tackling was atrocious last year.
• 21:41
  Speaker 3: It was bad today. Um, you know, the Steelers just
• 21:44
  Speaker 3: don't average seven yards of play.
• 21:45
  Speaker 2: They did today.
• 21:46
  Speaker 1: The tackling the special teams was absolutely awful.
• 21:51
  Speaker 2: Um, I will.
• 21:53
  Speaker 1: But it was interesting because Aaron Rodgers, they burned timeouts.
• 21:58
  Speaker 3: They had several delay of games. So it was really interesting.
• 22:02
  Speaker 3: They were blowing.
• 22:03
  Speaker 1: They had to use all their timeouts in the first half.
• 22:05
  Speaker 1: So McCarthy and Aaron, it's a really interesting... between McCarthy
• 22:12
  Speaker 1: and Aaron again. They're past their best fastballs. McCarthy is
• 22:17
  Speaker 1: not as cutting edge as a lot of the great
• 22:19
  Speaker 1: young guys like a Liam Cohen. And Aaron's not the
• 22:23
  Speaker 1: same quarterback. And so they get married again. And neither
• 22:28
  Speaker 1: has their fastball. And Aaron has an offense he wants
• 22:31
  Speaker 1: to run. And I watched it today. And again, this
• 22:34
  Speaker 1: really felt like Cincinnati just handed Pittsburgh a win.
• 22:37
  Speaker 3: But a win's a win in the NFL. Aaron's 19-34.
• 22:40
  Speaker 1: Three TDs in the pick. A lot of delay of games.
• 22:44
  Speaker 1: Just blowing timeouts.
• 22:48
  Speaker 3: But I really.
• 22:51
  Speaker 3: Pittsburgh will take the win.
• 22:54
  Speaker 1: But when watching the mechanics, the operations of the Steelers today,
• 22:59
  Speaker 1: for guys that have been around the league and worked
• 23:02
  Speaker 1: together before, Pittsburgh is a rough watch.
• 23:07
  Speaker 2: Yeah, I wrote down in my notes, the first half,
• 23:10
  Speaker 2: like Rodgers just looks off. Something just felt weird, you know?
• 23:14
  Speaker 2: And then the second half, obviously the turnovers. But they
• 23:18
  Speaker 2: hit some huge plays. Jalen Warren hit a couple big runs.
• 23:21
  Speaker 2: They had the big tight end.
• 23:23
  Speaker 3: Washington.
• 23:24
  Speaker 2: Ball behind the line of scrimmage. Threw guys off him.
• 23:27
  Speaker 2: He's a 300-pound tight end that's 6'7. I mean, what
• 23:29
  Speaker 2: are you supposed to say? It was a great play.
• 23:31
  Speaker 2: You know, DK is– I know he had a touchdown today,
• 23:34
  Speaker 2: but it had been very underwhelming. Yeah. He got called
• 23:37
  Speaker 2: on two penalties. One was a little iffy that essentially
• 23:39
  Speaker 2: cost him a touchdown. But, yeah, I just think that
• 23:43
  Speaker 2: the Bengals, they just– It was brutal. I mean, they
• 23:48
  Speaker 2: should have won that game to me by 10 plus points.
• 23:51
  Speaker 2: And they said on the broadcast, the special teams, I mean,
• 23:53
  Speaker 2: you take out the punter, destroy the punter. I didn't
• 23:56
  Speaker 2: know if he was going to be able to walk
• 23:58
  Speaker 2: off and then muff. It's one thing to muff a
• 24:00
  Speaker 2: punter like the 50. It's another thing deep in the
• 24:02
  Speaker 2: red zone. I mean, it hit him in the face.
• 24:05
  Speaker 2: When they had been off. So, I'm with you. I
• 24:08
  Speaker 2: think if they play that game ten times, I feel
• 24:11
  Speaker 2: like Cincinnati wins seven or eight. Now, the one thing
• 24:13
  Speaker 2: they have is early in the season, the crowd was
• 24:16
  Speaker 2: into it. He does look old, though. He does. I've
• 24:21
  Speaker 2: always defended him against any of the critics, you, whoever.
• 24:25
  Speaker 2: This is not that version. The version that we saw,
• 24:29
  Speaker 2: even the MVPs with LeFleur a couple years ago, he
• 24:31
  Speaker 2: does not move very well. If his feet aren't set,
• 24:35
  Speaker 2: he's not nearly as accurate as he once was. He
• 24:38
  Speaker 2: has to play much more like Peyton and Tom now,
• 24:41
  Speaker 2: and that's never been his style, really. Just to stay
• 24:45
  Speaker 2: within the couple-yard radius. He likes moving around even between
• 24:48
  Speaker 2: the tackles.
• 24:49
  Speaker 3: Well, he's not as dedicated in the offseason.
• 24:51
  Speaker 1: And when I watched all the sideline stuff today and
• 24:54
  Speaker 1: delay of games and procedures and blowing timeouts, I'm not sure,
• 24:59
  Speaker 1: you know, I mean, he's not as buttoned up as
• 25:01
  Speaker 1: a Brady was. God, if Brady blew one timeout a week,
• 25:05
  Speaker 1: he was furious. I, you know, I kind of when
• 25:08
  Speaker 1: I watch him, I just kind of feel like that
• 25:10
  Speaker 1: you're getting kind of a guy that I guess it's
• 25:13
  Speaker 1: like in any profession, if you've been really good for
• 25:15
  Speaker 1: a long time, that you kind of want to do
• 25:18
  Speaker 1: things the way you want to do things. If you
• 25:21
  Speaker 1: feel like it's your last year on the job, and
• 25:23
  Speaker 1: this is Aaron's last year. A couple weeks ago, he
• 25:25
  Speaker 1: got tagged, blindsided. I thought, this is his last year.
• 25:30
  Speaker 1: Kurt Warner could have still played. He took a couple
• 25:33
  Speaker 1: of shots. Kurt Warner doesn't want to lose his marbles.
• 25:36
  Speaker 1: He wants to retire golf. be with his beautiful family.
• 25:39
  Speaker 1: So I just kind of feel like watching Aaron, like,
• 25:42
  Speaker 1: you know, he's.
• 25:43
  Speaker 3: He's doesn't want a new motion. He wants to run
• 25:45
  Speaker 3: the spread offense.
• 25:46
  Speaker 1: He wants to see what he wants to see at
• 25:47
  Speaker 1: the line of scrimmage. And today the Bengals kind of
• 25:50
  Speaker 1: handed him opportunities with again, bad tackling and awful special teams.
• 25:55
  Speaker 3: I just, I don't, I don't think it's going to
• 25:57
  Speaker 3: end well.
• 25:59
  Speaker 2: I'll give the Steelers credit on is the Bengals through
• 26:02
  Speaker 2: two games. The running backs for the other teams did
• 26:04
  Speaker 2: not rush for over 60 yards. I think Tampa in
• 26:07
  Speaker 2: the first game ran for 90, but 30 of those
• 26:09
  Speaker 2: were Baker. So if you just went the running backs,
• 26:11
  Speaker 2: they were controlling the other two teams running backs. Today,
• 26:15
  Speaker 2: Jalen Warren was a huge, huge difference for Pittsburgh who
• 26:18
  Speaker 2: had not been able to run the ball. I mean,
• 26:21
  Speaker 2: they hadn't been Packers bad, but they'd been pretty anemic
• 26:24
  Speaker 2: on the ground. And one huge play got called back.
• 26:27
  Speaker 2: He was really explosive for them. And to me, that
• 26:30
  Speaker 2: took a little pressure off Aaron because they don't have
• 26:34
  Speaker 2: a number one wide receiver. That's a problem, right? I mean,
• 26:38
  Speaker 2: DK is just, they're paying him a lot of money
• 26:40
  Speaker 2: and they're not going to get the ROI on that,
• 26:42
  Speaker 2: but they got multiple tight ends. Warren could catch the ball.
• 26:45
  Speaker 2: You know, he clearly likes Pittman. Friermuth had a couple
• 26:50
  Speaker 2: of catches for 30 yards. Roman Wilson, who actually had
• 26:53
  Speaker 2: one bounced off his hand, led to a pick. Yeah.
• 26:57
  Speaker 1: Yeah, they burned four timeouts because of expiring play clocks.
• 27:02
  Speaker 3: It was an ugly game, but they got a win.
• 27:05
  Speaker 1: And that's, you know, all right, Washington 33, Seattle 31.
• 27:11
  Speaker 3: It was the classic Sam Darnold game.
• 27:13
  Speaker 1: He had a pick six, but he also had a
• 27:14
  Speaker 1: couple of drives where he was pinpoint, he was running around,
• 27:17
  Speaker 1: he was making things happen. I felt like Seattle, it's
• 27:21
  Speaker 1: one of those weird games. They were on the road
• 27:23
  Speaker 1: last week, and then they're on the road again. They
• 27:25
  Speaker 1: played nearly a perfect road game last week. JSN, by
• 27:28
  Speaker 1: the way, had his sixth touchdown. They gave you 440
• 27:30
  Speaker 1: yards of offense, 6.8 yards of play, 28 first downs,
• 27:32
  Speaker 1: and lose. The defense, you know, I just kind of
• 27:37
  Speaker 1: felt like they didn't have their fastball, and they didn't
• 27:40
  Speaker 1: have it from the opening series. Again, Washington deserves a
• 27:44
  Speaker 1: lot of credit. Marcos Mariota is one of those guys.
• 27:46
  Speaker 1: I mean, listen, I've seen him have these stretches, John.
• 27:51
  Speaker 1: You know, in the NFL, even in Tennessee, he'll have
• 27:53
  Speaker 1: these four, five, six-game stretches where you're like, why isn't
• 27:55
  Speaker 1: he better? He gets dinged up a lot. But his
• 27:59
  Speaker 1: mobility today gave— Seattle trouble, Terry McLaurin on a couple
• 28:03
  Speaker 1: of big catches. And I, when this game was done
• 28:06
  Speaker 1: to me, it's like, this is the NFL, the best
• 28:09
  Speaker 1: deepest team in the league goes on the road, feeling
• 28:12
  Speaker 1: like they are like a noticeably better than every team
• 28:15
  Speaker 1: away from home. And they get tagged by a backup
• 28:19
  Speaker 1: quarterback to a marginal at best roster.
• 28:23
  Speaker 2: Yeah, I liked him big in this game, Seattle. And
• 28:26
  Speaker 2: you could tell right away early in the game when
• 28:28
  Speaker 2: it's kind of dreary on TV, you're like, oh, don't
• 28:30
  Speaker 2: love him anymore. Colin, the difference in this game were
• 28:35
  Speaker 2: the fumble by Price and the two picks. One was
• 28:38
  Speaker 2: a little fluky, but still led to 21 points.
• 28:41
  Speaker 4: Yeah.
• 28:43
  Speaker 2: Mariota was really good in the red zone. Mariota looked good.
• 28:46
  Speaker 2: Like that version of Mariota, if he had played like
• 28:48
  Speaker 2: that his whole career, he would be a top 15 quarterback.
• 28:50
  Speaker 3: If he could stay healthy. Absolutely.
• 28:52
  Speaker 2: There's no question. And to do it against Seattle's defense,
• 28:56
  Speaker 2: I just assumed, you know, you could tell early on
• 28:59
  Speaker 2: the fumbles, but it's like, If this game's played in November,
• 29:04
  Speaker 2: I go, hey, Seattle's 8-2. They're 3-5. You're just like,
• 29:09
  Speaker 2: this team's not very good. You lay an egg on
• 29:11
  Speaker 2: the East Coast time zone. It's a long-ass flight.
• 29:14
  Speaker 1: Right.
• 29:15
  Speaker 2: I thought early in the season, though, these guys are
• 29:18
  Speaker 2: pretty dialed. There's something about an 0-2 team. You know,
• 29:22
  Speaker 2: this is the NFL. These guys are still making a
• 29:24
  Speaker 2: lot of money. The Washington Commanders played their ass off today. Yeah.
• 29:27
  Speaker 2: But the turnovers, to me, were killer. And it's understandable.
• 29:32
  Speaker 2: He gets injured. How many plays did he– what, did
• 29:34
  Speaker 2: he have like five snaps in the first game and
• 29:36
  Speaker 2: he hasn't played? But he's ready to go, which is
• 29:38
  Speaker 2: a good thing. This is you know, in other sports,
• 29:40
  Speaker 2: you'd ease a guy in. That's not the way football works.
• 29:42
  Speaker 2: You throw them right out there. You hit the ground
• 29:44
  Speaker 2: running and you go. And like you said, he was,
• 29:48
  Speaker 2: he threw four touchdowns. They threw for 379 yards in the,
• 29:52
  Speaker 2: in the rain, but the two picks again, one hit
• 29:55
  Speaker 2: a guy's helmet.
• 29:56
  Speaker 3: The other one was just not a good pass.
• 29:58
  Speaker 2: Uh, And it cost them 14 points. And you lose
• 30:02
  Speaker 2: by two points to the Commanders. I bet Mike McDonald,
• 30:05
  Speaker 2: the number one thing he's going to talk about tomorrow
• 30:07
  Speaker 2: with his team is turnovers, turnovers, turnovers. Because that's all
• 30:09
  Speaker 2: they talk about is defense.
• 30:11
  Speaker 3: They're the one team in the league that will have
• 30:13
  Speaker 3: nine penalties.
• 30:14
  Speaker 1: Two turnovers. They'll be bad on third down and they'll
• 30:19
  Speaker 1: win by 10 points. I mean, they beat the Texans
• 30:20
  Speaker 1: last year, the Rams last year. They opened the season
• 30:23
  Speaker 1: against New England. They are so gifted. They make mistakes.
• 30:27
  Speaker 1: This is not a clean football team. This is not
• 30:29
  Speaker 1: the Brady Patriots. They turn the ball over. You live
• 30:32
  Speaker 1: with some of Darnold's recklessness because of his mobility. He
• 30:37
  Speaker 1: had a couple of moments today that After his pick six,
• 30:40
  Speaker 1: they got the ball back. Seattle drove right down the field.
• 30:42
  Speaker 1: I mean, Darnold was amazing. It was like bang, bang, bang, bang.
• 30:45
  Speaker 1: He was moving out of the pocket, and you're like, God,
• 30:47
  Speaker 1: it just depends on the drive. He looks like the
• 30:49
  Speaker 1: best quarterback in the league, and then he'll throw a
• 30:51
  Speaker 1: pick six six times a year, and you're like, what
• 30:52
  Speaker 1: is he doing? I want to talk about this game.
• 30:55
  Speaker 1: Raiders remain undefeated, 3-0. They beat the Saints 35-27. Home
• 31:01
  Speaker 1: opener for a New Orleans team that should have beaten
• 31:03
  Speaker 1: Detroit and did beat Baltimore. Clint Kubiak, Listen, we had
• 31:09
  Speaker 1: two or three coordinators that got jobs. Jesse Mentor was
• 31:14
  Speaker 1: the high-profile Chargers coordinator that got a head job. Looks
• 31:18
  Speaker 1: like he knows what he's doing, although I did not
• 31:21
  Speaker 1: like the Derrick Henry in the red zone when he
• 31:26
  Speaker 1: brought in Derrick Henry, the cowboy offense.
• 31:29
  Speaker 3: What do they call that?
• 31:31
  Speaker 2: Oh, the Wildcat.
• 31:32
  Speaker 1: Oh, the Wildcat offense. God, I hated that play. Jesse,
• 31:35
  Speaker 1: you have Lamar Jackson. And then you have Derek Henry
• 31:39
  Speaker 1: as a running back. Don't F that up. Stop messing
• 31:41
  Speaker 1: around in the red zone. And I thought both announcers
• 31:45
  Speaker 1: made a point is that you're used to Lamar's voice
• 31:48
  Speaker 1: as a center, like the cadence.
• 31:50
  Speaker 3: What are you doing?
• 31:51
  Speaker 1: But Clint Kubiak was the other coordinator that we talked about.
• 31:55
  Speaker 1: And we said, OK, who's the hot coordinator? Last several years,
• 31:59
  Speaker 1: we've had many hot coordinators like Ben Johnson get a
• 32:02
  Speaker 1: job and they transform an operation. Well, Clint Kubiak, when's
• 32:05
  Speaker 1: the last time the Raiders were 3-0? They're definitely better
• 32:08
  Speaker 1: than the Chargers, and they may be every bit as
• 32:10
  Speaker 1: good as Denver and Kansas City. Kirk Cousins, I mean,
• 32:16
  Speaker 1: I'm looking at the stats here, five and a half
• 32:18
  Speaker 1: yards of play.
• 32:20
  Speaker 3: They're not turning it over.
• 32:22
  Speaker 1: I mean, they forced the Saints into four turnovers in
• 32:25
  Speaker 1: the Dome. I mean, they ran the ball effectively. I'm
• 32:30
  Speaker 1: going to look up. But Jente had 19 carries. Brock Bowers,
• 32:35
  Speaker 1: by the way, is a monster. 12 yards a catch.
• 32:38
  Speaker 1: He had 10. Jente's a nice receiver. Meyer, the other
• 32:41
  Speaker 1: tight end.
• 32:42
  Speaker 2: Naylor.
• 32:42
  Speaker 1: I mean, they mix the ball around. Kirk Cousins, 22
• 32:45
  Speaker 1: of 33. Three touchdowns, no picks. 120 passer rating. I lost.
• 32:52
  Speaker 1: I like the Saints minus three and a half. I
• 32:54
  Speaker 1: got to be honest with you. Every time the Saints scored,
• 32:56
  Speaker 1: the Raiders answered. The Raiders were very, very good, John,
• 33:00
  Speaker 1: situationally in this game. Anytime there was a really like
• 33:03
  Speaker 1: in the red zone, I thought they were good on
• 33:07
  Speaker 1: third downs.
• 33:08
  Speaker 3: The Raiders look like a very, very well coached football team.
• 33:14
  Speaker 2: The Cousins move has been remarkable for them. I mean,
• 33:17
  Speaker 2: he's got three touchdowns a game in their three wins.
• 33:20
  Speaker 2: He's got nine touchdowns. He didn't throw a pick today.
• 33:23
  Speaker 2: On the road, he can't move. We talk about Rodgers.
• 33:27
  Speaker 2: Rodgers looks like Hussein Bolt compared to him. I mean,
• 33:30
  Speaker 2: he's easily the most immobile quarterback in the league, Kirk Cousins.
• 33:33
  Speaker 2: But he gets rid of the ball fast. He knows
• 33:35
  Speaker 2: his offense. You know one thing I wrote down? I'm
• 33:38
  Speaker 2: not trying to diss Pete Carroll. He had an incredible career,
• 33:41
  Speaker 2: and it was a lot of fun watching him at
• 33:43
  Speaker 2: USC and early on in Seattle. Well, let's face it.
• 33:46
  Speaker 2: Last year was much closer to Freddie Kitchens and Jim
• 33:50
  Speaker 2: Tomsula going on from the stories I've heard with the Raiders.
• 33:52
  Speaker 1: Yeah.
• 33:54
  Speaker 2: It was Belichick level embarrassing, the stuff internally going on.
• 33:57
  Speaker 4: It was.
• 33:58
  Speaker 2: And I don't think Pete is malicious. I think Bill
• 34:02
  Speaker 2: can be– they're different personalities, but Pete puts on a
• 34:06
  Speaker 2: smile sometimes, and you got some of the stuff going
• 34:08
  Speaker 2: on behind the scenes. Like, Pete, how are you allowing
• 34:10
  Speaker 2: this to happen? To go from that to go to Kubiak,
• 34:13
  Speaker 2: who you see him, he looks young. If you ever
• 34:17
  Speaker 2: listen to Clint talk, he's a very serious, a lot
• 34:19
  Speaker 2: like his dad. Not much personality. I don't think he's
• 34:23
  Speaker 2: BS-ing with many people around the halls. Gary was a
• 34:26
  Speaker 2: lot like that. Not really the life of the party.
• 34:29
  Speaker 2: All about football all the time. And from what I've heard,
• 34:32
  Speaker 2: that guy is pulling Belichick hours. And clearly from the offense, sometimes,
• 34:38
  Speaker 2: you know, we hear this, the nepotism. Sometimes it works.
• 34:42
  Speaker 2: When the Kubiaks and the Shanahans are around their dads
• 34:44
  Speaker 2: at four or five years old and they know the
• 34:46
  Speaker 2: offense that takes the league by storm like the back
• 34:49
  Speaker 2: of their hand and they're into it and they're talented, like, yeah,
• 34:52
  Speaker 2: their ceiling's a little bit higher than the guy that
• 34:54
  Speaker 2: just starts learning the offense at 25 years old. And
• 34:57
  Speaker 2: to get the Raiders who have so much negativity, like
• 34:59
  Speaker 2: you said, Brock's back. He's I mean, it's he's one
• 35:03
  Speaker 2: of the craziest Napa high school to go to Georgia,
• 35:06
  Speaker 2: then go to the Raiders and just be this unstoppable force.
• 35:09
  Speaker 2: That doesn't happen very often. Colin probably won't happen again.
• 35:12
  Speaker 2: But to me, the cousins thing, remember how they like
• 35:15
  Speaker 2: finagled the money, how they give them a little bit less.
• 35:17
  Speaker 2: They're paying them next year because they didn't want to
• 35:19
  Speaker 2: force Fernando out there. And that was led by calm.
• 35:22
  Speaker 2: of like this and even Kubiak was like we do
• 35:24
  Speaker 2: not want to play him this year it's going it's
• 35:26
  Speaker 2: easy not to now but I think they were dead
• 35:29
  Speaker 2: set like hey Kirk's gonna handle this Kirk had been pretty.
• 35:32
  Speaker 4: Bad I think the last couple years I remember last
• 35:36
  Speaker 4: year he was playing off an injury and he was
• 35:37
  Speaker 4: never hyper athletic anyway so it was an immobile guy
• 35:40
  Speaker 4: getting an injury to make him slower and he looked
• 35:43
  Speaker 4: he looked like he was done.
• 35:45
  Speaker 2: The other thing is they went out and they spent
• 35:47
  Speaker 2: a lot of money N'Kobe Dean, every time you watch
• 35:50
  Speaker 2: the Raiders, 17's all over the place. Quay Walker from
• 35:53
  Speaker 2: the Packers, he was second on the team today in tackles.
• 35:56
  Speaker 2: Crosby clearly has a little FU to him this year. Like, okay,
• 35:59
  Speaker 2: you didn't think I was good enough to trade for?
• 36:01
  Speaker 2: Watch this. He's flying around. So, yeah. Listen, I'm not
• 36:05
  Speaker 2: out on the Saints. I mean, that quarterback's pretty good.
• 36:07
  Speaker 2: Their offensive weapons are fantastic. Alave, Jawan Johnson, he threw
• 36:12
  Speaker 2: four touchdowns today. That was a good game. I mean,
• 36:14
  Speaker 2: that game's going to get lost a little bit with
• 36:16
  Speaker 2: Cowboys right next to it. That felt like an old-school
• 36:21
  Speaker 2: Sean Payton game in the Dome, like just a lot
• 36:23
  Speaker 2: of points, a lot of fun.
• 36:24
  Speaker 1: Listen, Tyler, Shaq is the real deal. I think the
• 36:28
  Speaker 1: Saints are going to win that division. This was not
• 36:30
  Speaker 1: about the Saints. This was about the Raiders went out
• 36:32
  Speaker 1: and won that game. They outplayed them. They out-executed them.
• 36:36
  Speaker 1: Clint Kubiak looks like a star. Again, he's not as
• 36:39
  Speaker 1: razzle dazzle as Ben Johnson. He's not as vocal as
• 36:43
  Speaker 1: Ben Johnson. Again, he's Ben Johnson's blue blood bears in
• 36:47
  Speaker 1: Chicago with Caleb Williams.
• 36:49
  Speaker 3: You're just going to get more traffic. That's just that's
• 36:51
  Speaker 3: just more dynamic.
• 36:53
  Speaker 2: How about the offensive ingenuity in Chicago? intellect power in
• 36:57
  Speaker 2: this league right now of guys under 45. It's got
• 37:00
  Speaker 2: to be the greatest in league history. I love this
• 37:03
  Speaker 2: GM for the Raiders, the spy tech. I thought he
• 37:05
  Speaker 2: had the last two drafts. I think they've been really,
• 37:07
  Speaker 2: really sharp. If you're a Raider fan... Your GM, your coach,
• 37:11
  Speaker 2: your starting quarterback, your backup quarterback. Last year, the offensive
• 37:15
  Speaker 2: line for the Raiders fell apart. It's been stabilized. This
• 37:20
  Speaker 2: is as big a Raider win as I remember.
• 37:22
  Speaker 1: On the road to a team that should be 2-0
• 37:25
  Speaker 1: that just beat the Ravens, and the Raiders took it
• 37:28
  Speaker 1: to them, took a lead, and held them off.
• 37:31
  Speaker 3: Nice W.
• 37:33
  Speaker 2: Do you know what we got coming up, Colin? This
• 37:35
  Speaker 2: makes me feel like Marty Schottenheimer.
• 37:37
  Speaker 1: And John Green.
• 37:37
  Speaker 3: Oh, it's the Chiefs Raiders next weekend.
• 37:39
  Speaker 2: Raiders, Chiefs coming up, baby, for superior power. Not just
• 37:45
  Speaker 2: the AFC West, the AFC. This is a big game.
• 37:53
  Speaker 1: Lions 31, Jets 24. I will say the Jets are
• 37:57
  Speaker 1: the most improved team in the league. They're not a
• 37:59
  Speaker 1: great team. I think Aaron Glenn has that defense.
• 38:03
  Speaker 3: I mean, they are all over the field.
• 38:05
  Speaker 1: And they had, let's give the Jets credit, they've had
• 38:07
  Speaker 1: back-to-back very strong drafts.
• 38:09
  Speaker 3: Geno Smith, 31-37, three touchdowns. Geno Smith, if you'd never.
• 38:15
  Speaker 1: Seen him play before, and somebody just told you, this
• 38:17
  Speaker 1: is a new guy in the league, you'd think, shit,
• 38:20
  Speaker 1: this is Peyton Manning.
• 38:21
  Speaker 3: He had lasers today.
• 38:23
  Speaker 1: He was unbelievable today. Not terribly mobile. I thought that
• 38:28
  Speaker 1: was as good as Geno's played today. since about two,
• 38:31
  Speaker 1: three years ago when he made a Pro Bowl in Seattle,
• 38:32
  Speaker 1: I thought Geno was fantastic. He had time to throw.
• 38:37
  Speaker 1: But the Lions were four out of five in the
• 38:38
  Speaker 1: red zone. I got to tell you, between the 20
• 38:40
  Speaker 1: carries and seven catches, Jameer Gibbs is an absolute. Listen,
• 38:45
  Speaker 1: you get about two of these a decade. Jameer Gibbs
• 38:48
  Speaker 1: and Christian McCaffrey. You just get, you know, you get.
• 38:52
  Speaker 1: Whoever it is, Barry Sanders and whoever the other one,
• 38:56
  Speaker 1: the Adrian Peterson class, I don't think I'm overshooting it here.
• 39:00
  Speaker 3: Jameer Gibbs is completely special.
• 39:02
  Speaker 1: To be that dynamic and a pass catcher, every time
• 39:06
  Speaker 1: he touches the ball, and I feel this about, like,
• 39:09
  Speaker 1: McCaffrey's the only other guy in the league I feel
• 39:11
  Speaker 1: this way. Every time Jameer Gibbs gets the ball, it
• 39:15
  Speaker 1: looks like it can be a home run. He's like
• 39:17
  Speaker 1: a crevice away.
• 39:17
  Speaker 3: From a home run.
• 39:18
  Speaker 1: He is a completely unique player. 43rd NFL touchdown already.
• 39:23
  Speaker 1: Been in the league three years.
• 39:24
  Speaker 2: It's insane.
• 39:25
  Speaker 1: Yeah.
• 39:26
  Speaker 2: Well, I would probably throw Bijan in that group too.
• 39:29
  Speaker 2: And I think the one thing those three guys share
• 39:32
  Speaker 2: is you'd be like, you're not allowed to play running
• 39:34
  Speaker 2: back for the next eight games. You're going to play
• 39:36
  Speaker 2: wide receiver. Gibbs would be like, okay, I'll be the
• 39:38
  Speaker 2: best slot wide receiver. He wouldn't be coverable. He is
• 39:41
  Speaker 2: so good in the open field. Yeah. He really, you know,
• 39:45
  Speaker 2: after the first game, like, Dan, are you going to
• 39:47
  Speaker 2: be able to feed him this much? And then you
• 39:49
  Speaker 2: watch him like, yeah, I don't think they're they're not
• 39:51
  Speaker 2: slowing down. I mean, his touches. I don't know about
• 39:54
  Speaker 2: 2028 when it comes to Gibbs, but they are going
• 39:57
  Speaker 2: to ride this guy into their defense. They're secondary. Now,
• 40:00
  Speaker 2: the Jets do have good players, right? Garrett Wilson, high
• 40:02
  Speaker 2: wide receiver Sadiq. Sadiq's a top 15 pick for a reason. Yeah,
• 40:07
  Speaker 2: Brees Hall and even the backup from Wisconsin's a good
• 40:09
  Speaker 2: like their their offensive lines.
• 40:11
  Speaker 1: Good.
• 40:12
  Speaker 2: Gino was playing out of his mind like they the
• 40:15
  Speaker 2: Lions problem is just like they're not going to stop anybody. Hell,
• 40:19
  Speaker 2: I didn't even think as that game was going on,
• 40:20
  Speaker 2: they were going to be able to stop the Jets,
• 40:23
  Speaker 2: but they pulled it out. Yeah, I mean, I. Glenn
• 40:28
  Speaker 2: deserves credit because everyone was shitting on him. People thought
• 40:31
  Speaker 2: he was going to get fired immediately, change his staff over.
• 40:34
  Speaker 2: They have looked more than capable. They're a real football team.
• 40:39
  Speaker 2: They're an easy team to watch. They're an enjoyable watch.
• 40:42
  Speaker 1: Yeah, when you watch today what Geno had time to throw,
• 40:45
  Speaker 1: he threw some absolute ropes.
• 40:48
  Speaker 3: I mean, Geno was as good as Geno can be
• 40:50
  Speaker 3: at this point. All right, 49ers 35, Arizona 27. I'll
• 40:52
  Speaker 3: say this, between Trey McBride.
• 40:57
  Speaker 1: Jeremiah Love, Jacoby Brissett, who was 35 of 48, and
• 41:00
  Speaker 1: is that Mark Wilson's the other wide receiver?
• 41:04
  Speaker 2: Mike.
• 41:04
  Speaker 1: Mike Wilson for Arizona. They got four offensive guys who
• 41:07
  Speaker 1: could spin it. McBride's a monster. Love is, I mean,
• 41:10
  Speaker 1: they're going to keep feeding him the ball 15 to
• 41:12
  Speaker 1: 20 times. Niners, Trent Williams and Mike Evans were carted off.
• 41:18
  Speaker 1: Demarcus Robinson last week, a no-contact injury, he got carted off.
• 41:23
  Speaker 1: I think a lot of this is just, I think
• 41:24
  Speaker 1: it's how they play. Brock Purdy, you know, it's funny.
• 41:27
  Speaker 1: Somebody sent me this on my staff today. They said
• 41:29
  Speaker 1: basically Brock Purdy is diet Drew Brees. Great coach and
• 41:35
  Speaker 1: Sean Payton and Mike Kyle Shanahan execute to the high level,
• 41:39
  Speaker 1: cognitively really sharp, accurate. Early Brees could move better than
• 41:45
  Speaker 1: late Brees.
• 41:46
  Speaker 3: But it is interesting.
• 41:48
  Speaker 1: I think both went to a non-traditional football power, Purdue
• 41:51
  Speaker 1: and Iowa State. When I watch Purdy play this year,
• 41:54
  Speaker 1: it's unfair to say he manages Kyle's offense because he
• 41:59
  Speaker 1: does a lot of stuff off script. And he is
• 42:01
  Speaker 1: a willing down-the-field thrower. But as I saw Trent and
• 42:05
  Speaker 1: Mike getting carted off today, my takeaway was this is
• 42:08
  Speaker 1: sort of what we predicted, was it not?
• 42:11
  Speaker 2: Yeah, I mean, they also lost a couple corners to concussions.
• 42:14
  Speaker 2: I will say Purdy, it's only three games, is a
• 42:17
  Speaker 2: legit MVP guy. He's looking great. He has been, he
• 42:21
  Speaker 2: had a touchdown called back on a kind of a
• 42:24
  Speaker 2: bs holding call late in the game yeah he has
• 42:27
  Speaker 2: been exceptional i mean he is you know kyle's gotten
• 42:31
  Speaker 2: a lot of the credit during his career for play
• 42:33
  Speaker 2: calls for the guys he's playing with at this point
• 42:37
  Speaker 2: in time with guys dropping like flies and i get
• 42:39
  Speaker 2: it's the cardinals that it starts to get real they
• 42:41
  Speaker 2: play denver next week seattle the following week it's gonna
• 42:44
  Speaker 2: it's gonna go up a level but i mean colonies
• 42:48
  Speaker 2: George Kittle's coming back off an Achilles. Debo Samuel will
• 42:50
  Speaker 2: sign in the middle of August. Jordan Watkins, I don't
• 42:53
  Speaker 2: think has ever been active in his career. he's not
• 42:57
  Speaker 2: exactly throwing to Jerry Rice and John Taylor consistently right now.
• 43:01
  Speaker 2: So to make the plays he's making with his legs,
• 43:03
  Speaker 2: how in complete control he is, to me he is 100%.
• 43:08
  Speaker 2: If they go 11-plus wins and he continues the stats,
• 43:12
  Speaker 2: he's going to legitimately have a chance to win the
• 43:15
  Speaker 2: MVP because this is the best football he's ever played
• 43:17
  Speaker 2: in complete control. We talked about Aaron, something like that.
• 43:21
  Speaker 2: Not being on the same page and letting the clock
• 43:24
  Speaker 2: go down, that's the opposite right now with the 49ers.
• 43:27
  Speaker 2: He looks fantastic now. They can't go at this rate
• 43:32
  Speaker 2: of losing guys. I think J.J. Watt mentioned with the Cowboys,
• 43:36
  Speaker 2: they're going to run out of DBs in this game.
• 43:38
  Speaker 2: The 49ers are going to run out of players. And
• 43:41
  Speaker 2: it's one thing to lose a random guy here and there.
• 43:43
  Speaker 2: It's another thing to have Mike Evans. Who knows how
• 43:46
  Speaker 2: bad that is. Trent hopefully just had a stinger, not
• 43:50
  Speaker 2: the end.
• 43:50
  Speaker 1: Of the world.
• 43:51
  Speaker 2: He came back out in his pads, kind of a
• 43:53
  Speaker 2: good sign.
• 43:53
  Speaker 1: Yeah.
• 43:54
  Speaker 2: But the Mike Evans thing, Mike Evans and Purdy, I mean,
• 43:57
  Speaker 2: you talk about a rapport immediately.
• 43:59
  Speaker 3: Immediately.
• 44:00
  Speaker 2: The throw he made, the touchdown pass, I mean, that
• 44:02
  Speaker 2: was Joe Montana, thing of beauty.
• 44:04
  Speaker 1: Yeah.
• 44:06
  Speaker 2: Then he gets injured, and you're just like, well, how
• 44:08
  Speaker 2: long is he out? So you can't– you know, Debo, they–
• 44:12
  Speaker 2: look at the first play of the game. They run
• 44:13
  Speaker 2: the hook and ladder. Debo's a great scheme player for Kyle,
• 44:16
  Speaker 2: but you can't just ride him like you can Pickens or–
• 44:18
  Speaker 2: That's right. You know, or Jamar Chase or something. So
• 44:21
  Speaker 2: that's the one area moving forward. Their wide receivers are
• 44:24
  Speaker 2: dropping like flies. Now Kittle's back. Kittle's been fantastic coming
• 44:29
  Speaker 2: off this Achilles. I don't know what. Peptides, cold hot tub,
• 44:33
  Speaker 2: whatever he's using, Jamba juices. He looks. You talk about
• 44:38
  Speaker 2: this is why, though, this is the one thing they have.
• 44:40
  Speaker 2: You know, they lose Nick Bosa a couple days ago
• 44:43
  Speaker 2: doing high knees and warm-ups. Only the 49ers. Only the 49ers.
• 44:48
  Speaker 2: They have very serious guys, man. They are pretty dialed.
• 44:52
  Speaker 2: You talk about football culture. They got it going.
• 44:55
  Speaker 1: 3-0.
• 44:57
  Speaker 2: Now it gets real. I'm high on the Niners, Collin.
• 45:02
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• 45:05
  Speaker 1: few weeks into the NFL season, and this is how
• 45:08
  Speaker 1: I would class the top teams in the league. Let's
• 45:10
  Speaker 1: start with the valedictorians, the most complete teams, Seattle, no
• 45:14
  Speaker 1: holes in the roster, and they're winning with Drew Locke. JSN,
• 45:18
  Speaker 1: best route runner in the NFL. Bills, Josh Allen, he's
• 45:21
  Speaker 1: got his guy, an offensive head coach.
• 45:24
  Speaker 3: Texans, Lions, couldn't stop him.
• 45:27
  Speaker 1: 49ers, it's early... But those old Hall of Fame level
• 45:30
  Speaker 1: veterans are all healthy. The defense is back with Nick
• 45:34
  Speaker 1: Bosa and Fred Warner.
• 45:35
  Speaker 3: Watch out.
• 45:36
  Speaker 1: Second group, the Dean's List. Legitimate contenders. One or two
• 45:40
  Speaker 1: things I'm worried about.
• 45:41
  Speaker 3: Chiefs.
• 45:42
  Speaker 1: When is the left tackle coming back, Josh Simmons? But
• 45:45
  Speaker 1: Kenneth Walker has opened up the world for Travis Kelsey. Bengals,
• 45:48
  Speaker 1: they bought a defense. It looks good. They played poorly
• 45:51
  Speaker 1: and trounced the Texans. Eagles, the three and outs drive
• 45:55
  Speaker 1: me crazy. But Jalen Hurts wins. A little Russell Wilson there. Rams,
• 46:00
  Speaker 1: there'll be some bumps.
• 46:01
  Speaker 3: But man, are they talented.
• 46:03
  Speaker 1: Devontae Adams. Puka, take more time off. Third group, upperclassmen. Proven,
• 46:10
  Speaker 1: experienced teams with questions. The Patriots, Drake May, little inconsistent,
• 46:14
  Speaker 1: worries me. Saints, Tyler Shuck is really young, but the
• 46:17
  Speaker 1: O and D line play is really good. Lions, they
• 46:20
  Speaker 1: don't play defense, but man, do I like their playmakers.
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  Speaker 1: Kansas City 24, Miami 10. Listen, they face the Raiders next,
• 47:45
  Speaker 1: a big divisional rivalry. I didn't think Kansas City on
• 47:50
  Speaker 1: third down was very good defensively. Khalil Benson, the undrafted
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  Speaker 1: left tackle, got burned a couple of times in the
• 47:55
  Speaker 1: second half. Um, he hasn't been a, I mean, the
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  Speaker 1: one thing when I watch Kansas city, uh, that's pretty
• 48:02
  Speaker 1: clear is it's a, it's about Walker now. I mean,
• 48:04
  Speaker 1: Clay Travis, I mean, Clay Travis, Travis Kelsey and Kenneth Walker,
• 48:10
  Speaker 1: they don't trust their wide receiver. They don't trust their
• 48:12
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• 48:16
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• 48:18
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• 48:21
  Speaker 1: I mean, they'd come off two emotional games, uh, two
• 48:24
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• 48:27
  Speaker 1: like a really good college team. So I thought Malik
• 48:30
  Speaker 1: Willis and Miami, they lost a couple of running backs
• 48:32
  Speaker 1: to injuries. I thought they played, you know, it's a
• 48:34
  Speaker 1: really young team, fairly bereft of talent.
• 48:37
  Speaker 3: They're spirited. I think Halfley's going to work as a
• 48:39
  Speaker 3: head coach.
• 48:41
  Speaker 1: Kansas City, again, not very good on third down defensively,
• 48:43
  Speaker 1: but I thought this was a tough spot for them.
• 48:46
  Speaker 1: They want to get into lead play. Like, you know, okay,
• 48:48
  Speaker 1: we got the Colts. Okay, we got Miami. We want
• 48:50
  Speaker 1: to get into, you know, divisional play. So I didn't
• 48:54
  Speaker 1: have a huge takeaway other than I think they have
• 48:56
  Speaker 1: that left tackle against really good teams like a Max Crosby.
• 49:00
  Speaker 1: Now the Raiders are a threat or in division against
• 49:03
  Speaker 1: Khalil Mack. They have to get their left tackle situation
• 49:06
  Speaker 1: sorted out because Simmons, just like at Ohio State and.
• 49:08
  Speaker 3: As a rookie, is never available.
• 49:11
  Speaker 2: I think today was a pretty like big positive for
• 49:15
  Speaker 2: the Chiefs. You're playing Miami, who is terrible. On the road,
• 49:22
  Speaker 2: hot and muggy. Isn't it funny you watch Miami and Tampa?
• 49:25
  Speaker 2: Just beautiful. Then you watch Washington and New York. You're like, gosh,
• 49:29
  Speaker 2: that weather looks awful. No wonder everyone's flocking down there.
• 49:33
  Speaker 2: But They win by 14 points. I do think the
• 49:37
  Speaker 2: last couple of years when they, you know, pre Walker
• 49:40
  Speaker 2: and as they were running out of gas, this might
• 49:43
  Speaker 2: be like a field goal. This might come down to
• 49:45
  Speaker 2: like Harrison butt kicker, you know, winning the game 13.
• 49:48
  Speaker 2: A lot of them were coming down to that. They
• 49:51
  Speaker 2: all were. And now you win 24 to 10 and
• 49:53
  Speaker 2: you're like, yeah, it was ugly. We didn't even play
• 49:55
  Speaker 2: that well. And we were kind of in complete control.
• 49:58
  Speaker 2: I think the question mark with Walker, obviously, he's got
• 50:01
  Speaker 2: to stay healthy. It's like, is Andy really going to
• 50:03
  Speaker 2: use this guy? Is he really going to use him?
• 50:05
  Speaker 2: Brings back the enemy. They clearly emphasized it. Another game
• 50:09
  Speaker 2: where he's close to 20 carries. I'm sure he had
• 50:11
  Speaker 2: a bunch of catches, too. They ran screens to him.
• 50:15
  Speaker 2: I think he looks fantastic. He just has runs where
• 50:18
  Speaker 2: I think you forget. It's like that run he had
• 50:21
  Speaker 2: at the end of the season for Seattle was not
• 50:24
  Speaker 2: indicative of most of his career there.
• 50:26
  Speaker 3: That's right.
• 50:26
  Speaker 2: Because he was always banged up. He was in and
• 50:28
  Speaker 2: out of the lineup. This guy looks like a pro-ball, high-end–
• 50:33
  Speaker 2: They are making an emphasis. Mahomes only had 24 pass attempts.
• 50:38
  Speaker 2: And that is where I think once he got injured,
• 50:40
  Speaker 2: they're like, we can't have this guy throwing 50 times
• 50:42
  Speaker 2: a game. That's not going to be healthy. On an
• 50:45
  Speaker 2: individual game basis, he might have to do that. But
• 50:48
  Speaker 2: against the Dolphins last year, two years ago, I think
• 50:52
  Speaker 2: Mahomes has 38 pass attempts and takes some unneeded hits
• 50:56
  Speaker 2: against the Miami Dolphins. Well, today he only has 24.
• 50:59
  Speaker 2: And he still took the one big shot where he
• 51:01
  Speaker 2: got driven into the ground. They called the penalty.
• 51:03
  Speaker 1: I think Brett Veach had a very good offseason, a
• 51:05
  Speaker 1: very good draft. I mean, Kenneth Walker, obviously. But the
• 51:10
  Speaker 1: corner from LSU, they picked up a couple of guys
• 51:13
  Speaker 1: on the defensive side in the second and third round.
• 51:15
  Speaker 3: I think they've hit on everybody.
• 51:18
  Speaker 1: If you have the coach and the quarterback right, John,
• 51:20
  Speaker 1: as you know, it's much easier– You know, I remember
• 51:22
  Speaker 1: a couple years ago, the Rams and McVay, everybody said, oh,
• 51:25
  Speaker 1: it's like a three-year rebuild. And by the second year
• 51:27
  Speaker 1: of the rebuild, they were a playoff team. Like, if
• 51:29
  Speaker 1: you have the coach and the quarterback, you hit on
• 51:32
  Speaker 1: three or four draft picks. I mean, hell, the Jets
• 51:34
  Speaker 1: in Cleveland right now. If you hit on, like, Andrew
• 51:36
  Speaker 1: Berry in Cleveland, I said, before the season, I said,
• 51:39
  Speaker 1: the Browns are not drafting number one. I mean, if
• 51:42
  Speaker 1: Deshaun is just okay, well, Deshaun's been okay the last
• 51:44
  Speaker 1: couple of weeks. And suddenly, you know, they got nine
• 51:47
  Speaker 1: or ten drafts. As bad as Deshaun Watson's contract is,
• 51:50
  Speaker 1: if you nail draft picks and you have eight to
• 51:52
  Speaker 1: nine first and second year players playing, that's like free labor.
• 51:59
  Speaker 1: Shadur and Dylan Gabriel's backups are not making a nickel.
• 52:02
  Speaker 1: So you can diffuse some of that punitive Deshaun Watson contract.
• 52:06
  Speaker 1: So I'm watching Cleveland today and I'm like, they got
• 52:09
  Speaker 1: the Jets. They got too many good players to not
• 52:12
  Speaker 1: win five or six games.
• 52:14
  Speaker 2: I'm going to go out on a limb here. I
• 52:15
  Speaker 2: think the Dolphins will be drafting number one. Yeah, so
• 52:18
  Speaker 2: do I. A. Chan, I think Halfley said after the game,
• 52:21
  Speaker 2: we're not very optimistic on his injury. And he, by far,
• 52:23
  Speaker 2: is their best player. They're in trouble. And they're trying
• 52:26
  Speaker 2: to be bad, right? They're doing it through personnel. So
• 52:30
  Speaker 2: I'm going to go out on a limb and say
• 52:31
  Speaker 2: the Dolphins have the number one overall draft pick.
• 52:35
  Speaker 1: Let's talk some college football. Because I'm not talking the
• 52:37
  Speaker 1: Giants beating Tennessee 12-7. Cam Ward appears to be an
• 52:41
  Speaker 1: abject bust. Had an end zone pick at the end
• 52:44
  Speaker 1: that was brutal. And I'm not talking about the Colts
• 52:47
  Speaker 1: 19-17 win over the Texans. I swear, Houston never had
• 52:49
  Speaker 1: the ball every time you turned it on. Those Colts
• 52:52
  Speaker 1: dark jerseys don't do a thing for me. But I
• 52:54
  Speaker 1: picked them to win in my blazing five and they
• 52:56
  Speaker 1: came through. Let's talk Oregon 41, USC 27. So I
• 53:01
  Speaker 1: had predicted before the game that Oregon would win because
• 53:03
  Speaker 1: Oregon always wins games like this. USC was at home.
• 53:07
  Speaker 1: They knocked out the quarterback, Dante Moore, so it was
• 53:09
  Speaker 1: a backup quarterback. Oregon's defense coming into the game, at
• 53:13
  Speaker 1: least defensively up front, had been underwhelming. They lost to
• 53:17
  Speaker 1: safety in the first round of the Bears. I would
• 53:20
  Speaker 1: say Oregon on the back end is not nearly as
• 53:22
  Speaker 1: good as they were last year in the two or
• 53:24
  Speaker 1: three times I've watched them. Oklahoma State burned them over
• 53:27
  Speaker 1: the top several times. This is not a great Oregon defense,
• 53:32
  Speaker 1: but this was a classic example where The criticisms, you know,
• 53:36
  Speaker 1: when Gary Patterson got hired as a defensive coordinator, it's like, OK.
• 53:40
  Speaker 1: And then about three weeks ago, somebody said, you know,
• 53:43
  Speaker 1: Gary's not the easiest guy to work with. He can
• 53:46
  Speaker 1: be kind of thin skinned. He's not really a Lincoln
• 53:49
  Speaker 1: Riley guy. And they're like, you know, he's kind of
• 53:51
  Speaker 1: been out of it a few years. This is a
• 53:53
  Speaker 1: young man's game. And I didn't think, you know, I
• 53:56
  Speaker 1: think USC is. Linebackers, safety, corner, they don't have a pro.
• 54:00
  Speaker 1: They had two safeties last year that both ended up.
• 54:04
  Speaker 1: Kamari Ramsey and Bishop were NFL safeties. They're not very
• 54:08
  Speaker 1: good on the back end. Their defensive up front is
• 54:10
  Speaker 1: really good. They've got some really good players. but I
• 54:13
  Speaker 1: thought you saw the NIL money of Oregon. Massive offensive line,
• 54:18
  Speaker 1: deep athletically, tight end, wide receiver. The fact that they
• 54:21
  Speaker 1: have a backup quarterback that would start for 100 of
• 54:25
  Speaker 1: 135 college teams or more.
• 54:27
  Speaker 3: I mean, he might not start.
• 54:29
  Speaker 1: He might start for everybody but the top 15 quarterbacks
• 54:31
  Speaker 1: in the country. I thought you saw the NIL money,
• 54:34
  Speaker 1: but I think more than that is the criticisms of Lincoln.
• 54:38
  Speaker 1: He's not a bad coach, but once again in the
• 54:40
  Speaker 1: big spot, big games. Illinois on the road last year.
• 54:44
  Speaker 3: They had the game won. They just can't make big stops.
• 54:49
  Speaker 2: Well, I think the moment when Dante got knocked out,
• 54:52
  Speaker 2: which I think those can be more, you know, I
• 54:56
  Speaker 2: think it's easy to judge in the slow motion world
• 54:59
  Speaker 2: we live in. But the after the fact of him
• 55:03
  Speaker 2: jumping around and smiling and then throughout the really bad
• 55:06
  Speaker 2: kid was on the sideline. Yeah, it's like Lincoln after
• 55:09
  Speaker 2: the game. Like, I think that symbolizes Lincoln Riley. I
• 55:13
  Speaker 2: talked to a scouting buddy. I'm like, what the hell
• 55:15
  Speaker 2: is the difference at Florida? He's like, you know, the
• 55:18
  Speaker 2: old coach was everyone's friend. This guy's much more like
• 55:22
  Speaker 2: a general Schwarzkopf. This is, you do what I say
• 55:25
  Speaker 2: in a modern way.
• 55:27
  Speaker 1: Yeah.
• 55:28
  Speaker 2: And Lincoln, there's a discipline and a toughness that just
• 55:31
  Speaker 2: doesn't exist.
• 55:32
  Speaker 3: Yeah.
• 55:33
  Speaker 2: That guy embarrassed once he's jumping around and then he's
• 55:36
  Speaker 2: on the sideline.
• 55:37
  Speaker 1: Oh, it was awful.
• 55:37
  Speaker 2: I think most coaches say, go to the locker room, buddy.
• 55:40
  Speaker 3: No, I mean, that stuff is like.
• 55:42
  Speaker 2: Doesn't that bleed into the team, though, and the way
• 55:45
  Speaker 2: they play and the way they've played now for four
• 55:46
  Speaker 2: or five years? He's not a disciplinarian. He's not a
• 55:49
  Speaker 2: tough guy. No one's ever questioned his offensive ingenuity and
• 55:53
  Speaker 2: ability to.
• 55:54
  Speaker 1: Scheme up plays. Since he took over, people forget. He
• 55:58
  Speaker 1: gave Brett Venables a team that was winning 10 games
• 56:00
  Speaker 1: a year. Oklahoma now stinks. He got Clay Helton's team.
• 56:03
  Speaker 1: There were no pros. I mean, the offensive and defensive line,
• 56:05
  Speaker 1: they had one six-round draft pick on either of those lines.
• 56:09
  Speaker 1: They had no pros up front.
• 56:10
  Speaker 3: They were small.
• 56:11
  Speaker 1: And he won 11 games the first year. But I
• 56:14
  Speaker 1: think we are at a point, and it's not as
• 56:16
  Speaker 1: easy as everybody said, oh, let's just, you got to
• 56:18
  Speaker 1: buy him out. All right, 70 million. The next coach
• 56:21
  Speaker 1: is 100 million. They just asked donors for 300 million
• 56:25
  Speaker 1: for a new facility, which they built, and it's beautiful.
• 56:27
  Speaker 1: They also need $ 35 million a year in NIL money.
• 56:30
  Speaker 1: You can only tap donors. Donors always want changes. Then
• 56:33
  Speaker 1: they point to the other donor and go, go to him.
• 56:36
  Speaker 1: You've already asked me twice. It's really easy to say
• 56:39
  Speaker 1: the NIL helps coaches because, I mean, like Clemson just
• 56:43
  Speaker 1: can't afford the money. Wisconsin doesn't afford the money.
• 56:45
  Speaker 3: USC can't.
• 56:47
  Speaker 1: This is a market. This isn't the Pete Carroll days.
• 56:49
  Speaker 1: There's two NFL teams in town. Everybody loves the Dodgers,
• 56:53
  Speaker 1: the Lakers. There's a lot of asks here. There's a
• 56:56
  Speaker 1: lot to do in Los Angeles. These donors ponied up
• 57:00
  Speaker 1: $ 35 million this year, and you get run by Oregon,
• 57:04
  Speaker 1: and it was a wobbly Oregon defense. They'd gotten roasted
• 57:08
  Speaker 1: by Oklahoma State. They're not as good defensively as they
• 57:11
  Speaker 1: had been in previous years. I think Lanning privately would
• 57:14
  Speaker 1: tell you on the back end, they're pretty average defensively.
• 57:17
  Speaker 1: I think the buyout talk, I mean, Pete Carroll would
• 57:20
  Speaker 1: love the job, but it's a young man's sport. You
• 57:22
  Speaker 1: can't be 75 or whatever Pete is. No. I don't
• 57:25
  Speaker 1: know where you go from this, but I think the
• 57:26
  Speaker 1: buyout talk, I think he'll have to let the season
• 57:30
  Speaker 1: play out and make some calls and see where it goes.
• 57:33
  Speaker 2: Yeah, I don't think he's going anywhere, but I do
• 57:36
  Speaker 2: think that one, what do you think of all the
• 57:38
  Speaker 2: articles coming out leading up to the game of his
• 57:41
  Speaker 2: bold proclamations? I mean, he was the one that put
• 57:43
  Speaker 2: this game on a pedestal. It's like Lincoln. Saban and
• 57:46
  Speaker 2: Urban Meyer, Kirby Smart would never do this for an
• 57:49
  Speaker 2: individual game. And you don't have the resume. Your margin
• 57:54
  Speaker 2: for error is not big enough where it's like, hey,
• 57:56
  Speaker 2: you're so much better than them. It'll be fine. Most
• 57:59
  Speaker 2: people think you're going to lose to begin with. And then, like,
• 58:02
  Speaker 2: Oregon's big benefit. I mean, there's a chance that, you know,
• 58:05
  Speaker 2: how much is Raiola making as the backup quarterback? A
• 58:07
  Speaker 2: million dollars? He's good. When Baker Mayfield got hurt and
• 58:09
  Speaker 2: they put the undrafted free agent in, I bet Raiola
• 58:12
  Speaker 2: makes more as a backup for Oregon than Beckett makes
• 58:14
  Speaker 2: as undrafted free agent for Tampa. Yeah. And Oregon deserves credit.
• 58:18
  Speaker 2: What do they have? They have a culture. You come here.
• 58:21
  Speaker 2: Think of the culture you have to have. Now, Lanning
• 58:23
  Speaker 2: probably knew him because they recruited him at Georgia. But hey,
• 58:26
  Speaker 2: we're going to pay you a lot of money, but
• 58:27
  Speaker 2: you can make a lot of money starting. Come here.
• 58:29
  Speaker 2: We will help you grow. We did that with Dante
• 58:31
  Speaker 2: Moore years ago. And he came ready. I watched a
• 58:35
  Speaker 2: lot of him at Nebraska because of the hype. I
• 58:39
  Speaker 2: was like, young Patrick Mahomes, he was a disaster. That
• 58:43
  Speaker 2: guy yesterday looked like a real NFL prospect. Absolutely. And
• 58:48
  Speaker 2: the other thing is, this is now your week four.
• 58:52
  Speaker 2: Dante Moore is getting all the reps. This guy is
• 58:54
  Speaker 2: playing with the scout team to come in that ready.
• 58:57
  Speaker 2: The two cultures there, you got the other guy knocking
• 58:59
  Speaker 2: Dante Moore out, who's dead on the field, dancing around
• 59:02
  Speaker 2: and then not leaving. It's like they couldn't be any. Honestly, Colin,
• 59:07
  Speaker 2: Oregon's losses, that lost Oklahoma State, they went into West
• 59:10
  Speaker 2: Virginia last night, drubbed Rich Rod. That quarterback for Oklahoma
• 59:14
  Speaker 2: State is legit. That team could be in the Big
• 59:16
  Speaker 2: 12 championship. Boise, they played somehow. Boise destroyed Western Michigan.
• 59:24
  Speaker 2: They're going to be the playoff team. So Oklahoma State
• 59:27
  Speaker 2: and Boise could combine for 20-plus wins. Oregon might get,
• 59:31
  Speaker 2: and listen, I hope Dante Moore is fine. Glad he
• 59:33
  Speaker 2: didn't break his neck because it felt really bad right away.
• 59:36
  Speaker 3: It was scary.
• 59:37
  Speaker 1: I mean, it was one of those when the ambulance
• 59:40
  Speaker 1: is in the tunnel and the players are watching it.
• 59:43
  Speaker 1: It's bad. Yeah, I mean, it's kind of. It makes
• 59:46
  Speaker 1: you sick to your stomach. But I don't think they're
• 59:49
  Speaker 1: going to have a drop-off with Royola.
• 59:51
  Speaker 2: Oh, no, no.
• 59:51
  Speaker 1: Royola's a big, thick kid with a good arm.
• 59:53
  Speaker 3: He was a five-star high school guy.
• 59:55
  Speaker 1: But the whole thing on the sidelines with USC and
• 59:58
  Speaker 1: the juice box thing, whatever they're doing, and the player
• 1:00:01
  Speaker 1: after the hit is laughing.
• 1:00:04
  Speaker 3: It's like, dude.
• 1:00:06
  Speaker 1: that just not, that's not good enough. Let's stop the
• 1:00:09
  Speaker 1: high school stuff on the sidelines. You know, this is
• 1:00:11
  Speaker 1: when Lane came in, I never forget. I went into
• 1:00:14
  Speaker 1: Lane Kiffin's office when he was in USC and there
• 1:00:16
  Speaker 1: was a big Hollywood sign. And, and I remember walking
• 1:00:19
  Speaker 1: out thinking, Lane, you're kind of Hollywood. SC is kind
• 1:00:23
  Speaker 1: of Hollywood. I don't think you have to sell Hollywood.
• 1:00:26
  Speaker 1: I think you should be the opposite. Like in Alabama, uh,
• 1:00:31
  Speaker 1: You could sell a little glitz because there isn't much, right?
• 1:00:34
  Speaker 1: Nick made it feel glamorous as a football program. Not
• 1:00:37
  Speaker 1: that it wasn't tough, but he gave it like a
• 1:00:39
  Speaker 1: big city feel because Alabama is small. LA doesn't need
• 1:00:44
  Speaker 1: to sell LA. What you always worry about with a glitzy,
• 1:00:48
  Speaker 1: glamoury Austin, Texas team or a Miami team, you know,
• 1:00:53
  Speaker 1: one of these like culturally hip cities is Can you
• 1:00:56
  Speaker 1: build toughness? Because your players choose those schools because the
• 1:01:00
  Speaker 1: women are beautiful. You've got a beach. You've got a
• 1:01:03
  Speaker 1: music scene. That's one of the things. That's one of
• 1:01:05
  Speaker 1: the reasons you go to Austin or Coral Gables or Miami. Now,
• 1:01:09
  Speaker 1: Mario Cristobal, to his credit, has built a tough physical
• 1:01:13
  Speaker 1: culture in a beach town.
• 1:01:15
  Speaker 2: Yeah.
• 1:01:16
  Speaker 1: USC, I've always thought, like, get out of selling that thing.
• 1:01:20
  Speaker 1: I mean, the guy at UCLA now, and they've played nobody,
• 1:01:23
  Speaker 1: but you watch UCLA, they are squeezing every bit of
• 1:01:26
  Speaker 1: juice out of, like, the 28 best recruiting classes in
• 1:01:30
  Speaker 1: the country. USC had the best. They have four freshmen playing,
• 1:01:34
  Speaker 1: four other freshmen, like, rotating in.
• 1:01:37
  Speaker 3: And I.
• 1:01:40
  Speaker 1: Just, to me, you're as good as the ability you
• 1:01:44
  Speaker 1: squeeze out of your roster. I just don't see it.
• 1:01:48
  Speaker 1: I just don't see them squeezing the most.
• 1:01:50
  Speaker 2: Out of their roster. The reality is the teams he
• 1:01:55
  Speaker 2: had at Oklahoma once he took over for Stoops would
• 1:01:58
  Speaker 2: have drubbed his current USC team. He did a great
• 1:02:03
  Speaker 2: job calling the plays, but a lot like Chip, they
• 1:02:06
  Speaker 2: inherited incredible situations. They just needed a little foot on
• 1:02:10
  Speaker 2: the pedal offensively and went to the next level. I
• 1:02:13
  Speaker 2: just watch USC. OK, the Gary Patterson thing I thought
• 1:02:16
  Speaker 2: would work. But if it's not clearly not working these
• 1:02:19
  Speaker 2: last couple of games, he has no defensive, you know,
• 1:02:23
  Speaker 2: like a lot of these coaches have a network of guys.
• 1:02:26
  Speaker 2: They kind of go to a tree. He just like
• 1:02:28
  Speaker 2: throws shit at the wall and hope it sticks. He's like, well,
• 1:02:31
  Speaker 2: we went against this guy in the Big 12 10
• 1:02:33
  Speaker 2: years ago. Well, Lincoln, it's 2026. You should have the
• 1:02:36
  Speaker 2: pick of the litter. I don't know exactly what happened
• 1:02:38
  Speaker 2: with Dan Lynn jumping ship to go to Penn State.
• 1:02:43
  Speaker 2: I don't know. I mean, it's just there. I would
• 1:02:46
  Speaker 2: short them moving forward because let's use Bob Chesney comes
• 1:02:49
  Speaker 2: in with little fanfare. No one had heard of the
• 1:02:51
  Speaker 2: three of the four schools he'd ever coached at. doesn't,
• 1:02:54
  Speaker 2: you know, he's done a lot of interviews, but he's
• 1:02:56
  Speaker 2: not making bold proclamations. Even John Summerall at Florida did
• 1:03:01
  Speaker 2: not come in saying anything. There came, and some of
• 1:03:04
  Speaker 2: it USC created, they did put him on a pedestal, Colin,
• 1:03:07
  Speaker 2: like they were hiring the Bill Walsh version of college football,
• 1:03:12
  Speaker 2: and it's been a disaster given what they've paid. I mean,
• 1:03:14
  Speaker 2: they're not, you agreed, they're not a playoff team. This
• 1:03:18
  Speaker 2: team is not going to the playoffs.
• 1:03:19
  Speaker 1: Nope. Special teams, defense, not good enough. Texas 20, Tennessee 17. So,
• 1:03:34
  Speaker 1: you know, Arch Manning made some good decisions. Two or
• 1:03:36
  Speaker 1: three great throws. I thought he felt on the road,
• 1:03:40
  Speaker 1: big spot, pretty composed. I had a friend text me
• 1:03:43
  Speaker 1: who is somebody that formerly worked in the NFL. And
• 1:03:48
  Speaker 1: he said, where's the big upside? Now, Arch played in
• 1:03:51
  Speaker 1: a very small New Orleans high school. So he didn't
• 1:03:54
  Speaker 1: play at a modern day. He didn't play against a
• 1:03:56
  Speaker 1: bunch of D1 guys. So I've always kind of given
• 1:03:59
  Speaker 1: him a little bit longer kind of to play into that.
• 1:04:02
  Speaker 1: But it was interesting. This person worked in the NFL
• 1:04:06
  Speaker 1: and just said, you know, he's big enough. He moves
• 1:04:10
  Speaker 1: well enough. He's got a good enough arm. He goes,
• 1:04:13
  Speaker 1: but he's kind of inconsistent. And he goes, give me
• 1:04:16
  Speaker 1: one great play. He goes, I'm waiting for the great play.
• 1:04:20
  Speaker 1: Like when Josh Allen was at college or Mahomes, Sam Darnold,
• 1:04:24
  Speaker 1: you can put a three-minute reel up of their best plays,
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  Speaker 1: and there are some holy what-am-I-watching plays that I went
• 1:04:32
  Speaker 1: back and looked at my homes after he got drafted.
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  Speaker 1: I mean, it was just wild. I only saw him
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  Speaker 1: play once in college that I remembered. It was those
• 1:04:39
  Speaker 1: crazy Big 12 games. I watched Josh Allen play Iowa
• 1:04:43
  Speaker 1: and Oregon. He got smoked in both, but he made
• 1:04:45
  Speaker 1: a great throw. I think it was against Oregon in
• 1:04:48
  Speaker 1: a losing cause where it just didn't even look human.
• 1:04:51
  Speaker 1: But what the person was saying is, for all the talk,
• 1:04:55
  Speaker 1: Peyton Manning gave you moments of, wow.
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  Speaker 3: Does Arch have that? As a former NFL scout, how
• 1:05:02
  Speaker 3: do you judge him today?
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  Speaker 2: Yeah, I don't love him as a player. I mean,
• 1:05:08
  Speaker 2: relative to the hype of talking about first-round pick, I've
• 1:05:12
  Speaker 2: never watched him these last two years and thought first-round pick.
• 1:05:15
  Speaker 2: Definitely not first overall pick, top 10 pick. I don't
• 1:05:19
  Speaker 2: see that level at all. Now, is he an undraftable,
• 1:05:24
  Speaker 2: like total scrub? Of course not. He definitely can move.
• 1:05:28
  Speaker 2: I think his release is a little funky. On a
• 1:05:32
  Speaker 2: play-to-play basis, you have no clue what you're getting. No
• 1:05:36
  Speaker 2: clue what you're getting. I mean, they got really high-end
• 1:05:38
  Speaker 2: wide receivers. One of the running backs was out. I mean,
• 1:05:40
  Speaker 2: the best player on that team is the pass rusher
• 1:05:43
  Speaker 2: who was incredible against Tennessee Simmons. But Yeah, I mean,
• 1:05:47
  Speaker 2: I like I watch Raiola one game of Raiola off
• 1:05:51
  Speaker 2: the bench. And you're like, damn, this is the guy
• 1:05:53
  Speaker 2: that Matt Rule was like, this is why we paid
• 1:05:55
  Speaker 2: him millions of dollars. If that guy would have showed up,
• 1:05:59
  Speaker 2: we would have won 10 games one of these last
• 1:06:00
  Speaker 2: two years.
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  Speaker 3: I think that's very fair.
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  Speaker 2: You see it immediately. And to me with Arch, like
• 1:06:05
  Speaker 2: you're now listen, Tennessee on the road, one of the
• 1:06:07
  Speaker 2: loudest places, their defense is good. But even the previous
• 1:06:11
  Speaker 2: week against UTSA, you see some wobbly ducks. I just
• 1:06:17
  Speaker 2: don't love him as a player at all. To me,
• 1:06:20
  Speaker 2: he's not for me. One of those. Not for me. Yeah.
• 1:06:24
  Speaker 1: No, I think the kid at Miami, Mensah, Darian Mensah,
• 1:06:28
  Speaker 1: has been the one quarterback and the Oklahoma State kid
• 1:06:32
  Speaker 1: where you get some, wow, that's special.
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  Speaker 3: Um, CJ Carr, I like, he didn't have great traits.
• 1:06:37
  Speaker 1: He's not big, strong, mobile, but you know, that situation
• 1:06:41
  Speaker 1: is a little like JJ McCarthy where he didn't have
• 1:06:42
  Speaker 1: to do a ton, but I'm, I keep waiting for Arch.
• 1:06:46
  Speaker 1: And it's funny cause I'm having people know I'm on
• 1:06:47
  Speaker 1: the air and I have, you know, people I talk
• 1:06:50
  Speaker 1: to and former executives and scouts and executives and they all,
• 1:06:54
  Speaker 1: they all kind of say the same thing is they,
• 1:06:56
  Speaker 1: they just, um, ambivalent.
• 1:07:00
  Speaker 3: Like, it's like, eh, It's just that.
• 1:07:02
  Speaker 2: Nobody is– I have a hard time seeing Texas win
• 1:07:04
  Speaker 2: the whole thing if Arch is going.
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  Speaker 3: To play like this.
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  Speaker 2: Although there's no way.
• 1:07:06
  Speaker 3: They make too many mistakes.
• 1:07:07
  Speaker 2: Yeah. No, yeah. Do you think– I saw Marcel Reed,
• 1:07:13
  Speaker 2: who played terrible for A & M, and they asked
• 1:07:15
  Speaker 2: Elko after the game, are you going to bench him?
• 1:07:17
  Speaker 2: And his response was no.
• 1:07:18
  Speaker 1: No.
• 1:07:19
  Speaker 2: Venables Mateer, who's just been horrendous. Same type deal. Yeah,
• 1:07:22
  Speaker 2: we thought about it. Do you think now, because I
• 1:07:25
  Speaker 2: felt like in the NFL, they were way more sensitive
• 1:07:27
  Speaker 2: about benchings because it's hard to go back. In college,
• 1:07:31
  Speaker 2: most of my life, you'd bench a guy, you'd come
• 1:07:33
  Speaker 2: back in, much more unfazed by emotions. Young kid, if
• 1:07:37
  Speaker 2: you're not doing well, guys would come in and out.
• 1:07:39
  Speaker 2: You'd play two quarterbacks. Do you think now these people
• 1:07:42
  Speaker 2: are stroking these two, three, four, five million dollar checks
• 1:07:44
  Speaker 2: for these quarterbacks? That it's like, I don't even know
• 1:07:47
  Speaker 2: if I'm allowed to take him out of the game
• 1:07:48
  Speaker 2: for some of these coaches. Because it kind of crossed
• 1:07:50
  Speaker 2: my mind seeing some of these like Venables material. You
• 1:07:53
  Speaker 2: didn't think about making a change or Elko. You guys
• 1:07:55
  Speaker 2: were playoff teams last year, but both those quarterbacks making
• 1:07:59
  Speaker 2: a ton of money. Like, am I even allowed to
• 1:08:01
  Speaker 2: yank this guy at halftime? Crossed my mind yesterday. Yeah.
• 1:08:05
  Speaker 1: No, it's let me let me throw one more college
• 1:08:08
  Speaker 1: thing out there.
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  Speaker 3: You know who impressed me?
• 1:08:10
  Speaker 1: Was the Northwestern team that almost knocked off Indiana and
• 1:08:13
  Speaker 1: Bloomington Friday night. I'm getting over a cold, so I
• 1:08:16
  Speaker 1: watched about 12 college football games.
• 1:08:19
  Speaker 4: Yeah.
• 1:08:19
  Speaker 1: Listen, that guy, small college coach, took over for Pat
• 1:08:23
  Speaker 1: Fitzgerald when he was let go by Northwestern. And he's
• 1:08:29
  Speaker 1: gone 21-20. They hired Chip Kelly as his offensive coordinator.
• 1:08:33
  Speaker 1: Northwestern is well done. coat and chip kelly would work
• 1:08:37
  Speaker 1: for free at usc because he wanted to come back
• 1:08:40
  Speaker 1: west i would imagine he's a man beach guy um
• 1:08:44
  Speaker 1: northwestern's got a new stadium it's it's i'm just telling
• 1:08:47
  Speaker 1: you i watched that game these guys like signetti and
• 1:08:51
  Speaker 1: um the northwestern coach you know under the radar your
• 1:08:55
  Speaker 1: guy at ucla they just grind they know football they
• 1:08:59
  Speaker 1: don't have huge agents. There's a lot of good coaches
• 1:09:02
  Speaker 1: out there that nobody knows about. They just need an opportunity.
• 1:09:07
  Speaker 2: Got another name for you. Dickert, the Washington State guy
• 1:09:10
  Speaker 2: that went to Wake Forest, just knocked off Louisville. I
• 1:09:14
  Speaker 2: think they won nine games last year. Now they're 3-1.
• 1:09:18
  Speaker 2: He's doing that at Wake Forest. Dicker's pretty good, but listen,
• 1:09:23
  Speaker 2: he doesn't have the fanfare of Lane. He doesn't have
• 1:09:26
  Speaker 2: Jimmy Sexton behind him like some of these guys. Bob
• 1:09:29
  Speaker 2: Chesney probably doesn't have Jimmy Sexton behind him. I think
• 1:09:34
  Speaker 2: sometimes the hype train... Listen, I enjoy Lane, but if
• 1:09:37
  Speaker 2: you Google his resume, he doesn't have exactly Kirby's win
• 1:09:42
  Speaker 2: total of knocking off big teams. So that matters a
• 1:09:45
  Speaker 2: lot in college. In the NFL, you can't fake it, right?
• 1:09:49
  Speaker 2: No one cares who Liam Cohen's hype machine or agent is.
• 1:09:51
  Speaker 2: Just watch him coach. He's kicking everyone's ass. But in college, that...
• 1:09:55
  Speaker 2: the pregame shows, you know, the clats and the curb
• 1:09:58
  Speaker 2: streets like that. There's a lot of emphasis in those guys. They,
• 1:10:01
  Speaker 2: Josh Pate, they have a lot of juice and fine
• 1:10:04
  Speaker 2: bomb that matters. And a lot of guys suck out
• 1:10:07
  Speaker 2: a lot of the oxygen and they're not, Lincoln's a
• 1:10:09
  Speaker 2: good example of that. And it's just, they, they, they
• 1:10:11
  Speaker 2: lead these shows. And it's like, is Lincoln even the
• 1:10:14
  Speaker 2: best college coach right now in LA?
• 1:10:15
  Speaker 1: Lincoln, Lincoln, Lincoln right now is five and 14 against Lincoln.
• 1:10:22
  Speaker 1: AP-ranked teams.
• 1:10:24
  Speaker 3: Think about that. That doesn't mean number one.
• 1:10:26
  Speaker 1: Lincoln-Riley is 5-14 against AP-ranked teams at USC.
• 1:10:32
  Speaker 2: That is just brutal. The Big Ten's a little down
• 1:10:36
  Speaker 2: right now. Indiana, I watched that game Friday night. They
• 1:10:39
  Speaker 2: did not look like they did last year.
• 1:10:42
  Speaker 3: Offensively, they are not last year. They are not as
• 1:10:47
  Speaker 3: good as last year.
• 1:10:47
  Speaker 1: Why? The quarterback's not as good. Hoover's not as good
• 1:10:49
  Speaker 1: as Fernando Mendoza. They're good. They're not a special offense yet.
• 1:10:54
  Speaker 1: You can get the Eagles at 66% on Monday Night
• 1:10:58
  Speaker 1: Football on the road against the Bears using either their
• 1:11:02
  Speaker 1: second or third string quarterback. The one thing Philadelphia can
• 1:11:06
  Speaker 1: do is turn third downs into first downs. I think
• 1:11:09
  Speaker 1: Ben Olsen, clever play calling, keeps it close. But I
• 1:11:12
  Speaker 1: think Philadelphia picking up first downs... wearing a pretty smid
• 1:11:19
  Speaker 1: Bears defense over the course of the game, wins by
• 1:11:24
  Speaker 1: double digits, 66%.
• 1:11:27
  Speaker 3: I like Philly. What say you?
• 1:11:30
  Speaker 2: I like the Bears to keep this one close. Remember
• 1:11:32
  Speaker 2: last year, they ran it right down their throat. Obviously,
• 1:11:35
  Speaker 2: Caleb was there. He's not going to be. But if
• 1:11:37
  Speaker 2: Tyson's able to go coming off the concussion, this place
• 1:11:40
  Speaker 2: is going to be rocking Monday Night Football, Chicago Bears.
• 1:11:45
  Speaker 2: I think they keep it within a field goal, so
• 1:11:46
  Speaker 2: I like the Bears to keep it close.
• 1:11:53
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