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Our Favorite 'F' Word · Pop Culture Junkie®

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♪ Entertain me, entertain me, right now ♪
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Hello, and thank you for spending time
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with the Pop Culture Junkie podcast.
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I am Shauna, and I am here with Olivia.
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And we have a lot to talk about.
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A lot of stuff is happening.
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A lot of stuff is the nice way to put it.
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A lot of very, very bad stuff.
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Yeah, not a lot of it's good, but we are here.
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And speech is still free for, you know, now.
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And so let's keep Pamela and carry the fuck on, Malah.
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Too soon, too soon.
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Also, that was very marvel of you in the beginning.
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I'm like, "But we are here."
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It's all night from my hero academia
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and whenever he shows up, he goes, "Oh, yeah, man."
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And everyone's like, "Yeah, it's all night."
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If only.
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If only, all night was here right now.
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Yeah.
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Yeah.
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So how's life?
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Well, well, as I told my hairstylist
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yesterday when I got my hair dark as my soul, it looks beautiful.
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Thank you.
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Thank you that I've been crying on and off all week.
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And she asked, "Why would happen?"
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I said, "The horrors."
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And then you gestured vaguely around you and said, "You know, the horrors instrument."
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Yep.
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Totally got it.
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Totally got it.
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And then I made the good critical, I don't know.
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It was a good movie, but the mistake of watching
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the Aubrey Plaza movie, "My Old As."
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You shit.
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See, I don't know if I want to watch it because
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they don't look alike to me in the promos.
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To me, 39 is an old.
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Yeah.
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But I don't know.
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Should I watch it?
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She's 18, like the young version of her is 18.
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And then she comes and visits her at 39.
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"Fold my eyes out."
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It's so good.
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It's so sad.
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It's such like a coming of age, like love story.
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And like I was watching it with my mom,
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there's a lot of stuff with like your mom and appreciating your mom.
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Just a weep, you know.
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That's how you need to get to Rob it in.
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Sorry to rub it in for having a mom.
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What's that like?
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That's it.
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And it was like,
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there's this part where she's like about to leave for Seattle and move.
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And all this stuff, and I just went like, "Mom and I was like, yeah, no, it was so good."
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I told my friend that I'm never taking another movie wreck from her.
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I'm like, "Because I literally cried so hard and I had done fabulous makeup that day."
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It was like good for doing your makeup since last two days.
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Because I am not.
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I feel horrible, but I can look good on the outside.
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And that's been what I've been trying to tell myself.
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But I had like a dark purple makeup on and I'm just like crying and I'm trying so hard.
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I'm trying to get my hair done.
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Okay, you have this drink and you I want to watch you finish that beverage right?
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Yeah, and then I didn't have any liquor so I made her jug a Grand Marnier. Yeah, she's like,
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here's a shot of Grand Marnier I don't do it. Let's do it. Things were needed you were working for
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like six a.m. yeah, tall working is hard that party at like 10 p.m. yeah, I worked a long day and
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I snuck in like one car. And as the night went on and it got clearer and clearer that it was not
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gonna go the way that we wanted it to I mean, okay, one three nine past and then we all went
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yeah, and then we're like okay, now like like oh god, oh god, oh god, and we were invited to like
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an after party and all of us just met. I'm gonna go home. I want to be in my jam jam so well.
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I went home and was like, I'm gonna need a bar bit you it. Mixing my uppers and my downers.
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But culture junkie does not can do it. I did make Andrew stop on the way. Oh, but I got a
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bottle of red wine. Yeah, I feel like they're gonna be celebrating or lamenting. And I wept and he
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held me in the next day. I want to feel to be love. Oh my god, you had your mother to love you.
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I have that husband to love me. I guess you will equal. It's fair. Can I borrow your mother and you
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can borrow my husband? I think that's fine. Okay, fair. Sorry, Andrew. Can I still borrow your mom?
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Yes, yes, you can borrow my mom. She would love to help me. Yes. And then the next day I woke up and I was
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like I cried enough. I need something like I need to just comfort and take care of myself all day.
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So Andrew made a nice like MX pot of good coffee. It was a nice chilly morning. So I just went out
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in the patio and was just like I felt like a shell of a human like I cried as much as I could. And then
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I go inside and I was like, what do I need that will make me feel better in this of Buffy the vampire's
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layer? So I watched some Buffy. Yeah, you know, I had a man who must not be named who left a dog
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with me who was watching Buffy with me at the time. So I haven't been able to watch Buffy in two years
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because it reminds me of it so much. He left Ziggy with no penny. Oh, but we were made Buffy binge
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whenever he disappeared without a trace. I don't know if the podcast knows this lower. So I haven't
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been able to watch Buffy again since then, but I should revisit it. Yeah, do not associate Buffy with
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it's on him associated with me. We'll do something stupid during an episode of Buffy or something.
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Iconic Buffy episodes, but I can't start it from the beginning. Let's start from the beginning and
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I will go over to your house and like run around naked or like shit in your floor. And then you'll never be
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able to watch me. She's really really my dear time. I'm a great shot. I'm turning into a feral beast.
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I'll stop his donating. My floor, my rental. The man who ghosted me and left a dog with me after that.
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Yeah, she was a good dog and then she died. Sorry, sorry, listen. This is where we're at. This
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episode is going to be like remember we were both abandoned. Let's talk about our trauma.
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But Buffy, you're your ex my dead mom. It's great. My dead dog. Your dead dog. I can get my people
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listen to this podcast. Everything is fine. We're doing it's fine. Everything's great. But on that note,
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segue to topic. Okay, you know, at the hard times, we've always found ourselves leaning on the
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women around lives. Exactly. Is what we actually want to discuss today and just, you know, this podcast is
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inclusive to all gender, sexualities, ethnicities. The girls gaze in days are united. We do this for
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the girls, gots and gaze, baby. Yes. And we wanted to talk a little bit about feminism and what it
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means to us, what the history is and really how we have persisted through so many years of hard times,
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even in times like this. So even through this election, we're not going to see our first woman
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president yet. I still hold my heart that there will be a fucking female president. Yes. Women still
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matter shocking. And we can see that in the media and in pop culture, is there equal representations
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between all gender, sexualities and ethnicities? No. But we have seen that change for the better
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in some recent years. And a big reason for that is my favorite f word. Feminism. No, that is not a
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dirty word. It's thanks to the various feminist movements of the last 100 in years or so that we
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have rights that we do and still have for now. And the fact that representation in the media has become
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more diverse and authentic because it wasn't that long ago that it really wasn't. So we're going to
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look back on how feminism and pop culture so to speak. So we're going to go kind of decade by decade
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here for a little bit and just talk about that intersection of pop culture and feminism. The 1910s
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of the 1920s. First wave feminism made its mass media. It's needed. Okay. The people need it. The
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people. I needed it. I needed it. Keep going. 1913. The women's suffrage parade in Washington,
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DC generates unprecedented media coverage. 1920. Lappers and mergers cultural icons challenging the
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Victorian gender norms through fashion and the behavior. 1927. The release of wings which I looked
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into in as a action movie about airplanes. Features clara bow as the it girl representing a new female
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independent. And if you are a swifty or you've just listened to me speak ever. Clare Boe is
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done that. Yeah. Yeah. Apparently whoever is listening to this podcast is too. Clare Boe is actually
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referenced in the tortured poets department. Oh, love that. And it's actually called Clare Boe.
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And the song. Yeah. Yeah. And so she is the most iconic kind of early 1920s actress. She's,
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as you mentioned, where we get the term it girl. But it's truly been just an icon throughout the
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years. I think Stevie next Taylor Swift. Yeah. That's kind of the theme of song and them going through
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it. So. Yes. And obviously the 1910s and 20s we talk about like flapper isn't like first wave feminism.
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And this throughout history is going to be predominantly white women. Yep. So we do realize that that
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the 1910s and 20s are not the same for everybody. Yes. Experience. Yes. As we know, then we really
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run into the 1940s to the 1950s World War II and then the post war period. The most iconic imagery
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that you're going to think of and see within this time of course is Rosie the Riveter poster.
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She becomes a cultural phenomenon. Of course, the only reason that we started letting women work
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is because all the men were off to war and they had to and then when the men came back, they said,
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"Oh, those women don't need to anymore. Go on and go back into the kitchen." A lot of them just
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tried and fought to stay in the workplace. Of course, they're like, "Could we are actually good at
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this?" Yeah. Enjoy this. Yeah. They couldn't keep their own big accounts. But we still, you know,
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that was kind of the beginning of women in the workplace in 1949. Simone de Bouvoirs, the second sex
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influences popular discourse. In 1953, we have the launch of Playboy magazine, Hugh Hefner,
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and Sparks debate about objectification versus liberation, which is still going on to the day.
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Which, very fun fact, did you know that he bought Marilyn Monroe's pin-up photos without her concern?
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Yeah. Was the first cover? Did she not consent to that being the cover? No. Oh, damn. I've seen
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that very famous. She's like on a rub, right? Yeah. Yeah. Yeah. So that's how it got started.
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That feels like objectification. Well, that's Marilyn's life for you. Yeah. That's really
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cool. Marilyn, but Marilyn's life for you. Yeah. And then in 1955, we arose a parks, a rasp, which
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highlights intersection of civil rights and the women's rights movement. Exactly. The 1960s
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brought about second-wave feminism. So in 1963, we have Betty for Dan's, the feminine mystique,
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which became a bestseller. 1966, the formation of the national organization for women, also known
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as Now, which still existed this day. Hire me, I think you my resume. Please hire me.
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1968, Miss America protests sparks bra, burning mythology in media. I love the bra, burning stuff.
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Everybody watching us on camera, I have a tattoo of a burning bra on my arm. I just love that.
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And then 1969, nice. Our bodies ourselves and credible book was published revolutionizing women's
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health discourse. We're still there. And we are still there. Imagine that women of health needs
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today need taken care of and legal access to. In 1971, we have Miz magazine launching in 1972,
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title nine passes leading to increased representation of women in sports media. Another thing, we're
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still struggling with. Yes. Yes. I love it. Back to when our parents were still doing
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the things. We have the iconic Rocky Horror picture show challenging gender norms, which
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come in 1975 in 1977, free to be you and me by Marlowe Thomas promotes gender equality.
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And in 1979, Margaret Thatcher becomes UK Prime Minister, sparking media discussions about women in
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power. That's so funny. Media discussions. Could a woman really lead? Oh my gosh.
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No, they have a queen. Right. She's really lead. She just kind of sticks knives and decades.
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Yeah. And that's corkies. Yeah. Yes. The 1980s that working woman era.
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So not only pardon exactly that is literally the first note is 1989 to five highlights workplace
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sexism. 1983 Madonna emerges as a controversial figure. A controversial figure. But she released
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that book in what the 80s or 90s to all about sex. Yes. What was it called? What was a documentary?
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It was like a tabletop book too. Madonna's movie was truth or dare, which I've never seen. The
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documentary. But I bet it's sexy. It's really good. It has a lot of gay representation.
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But there's a lot of gay clubs. I mean, yeah. Bush. Bush and gay. Not George Bush, but
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I've got like Bush, Bush, Bush, the better Bush, Bush, Bush, Bush, Bush, Bush, Bush, Bush, Bush, Bush, Bush, Bush, Bush, Bush, Bush, Bush.
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1984 Geraldine Ferreros vice president domination generates widespread media coverage.
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And then in 1988 Murphy Brown debuts featuring a single career woman protagonist.
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Imagine that. Then we get head into the 1990s with girl power and third with Batman.
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And then what I grew up with. Yes. Spice Girls, baby power.
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So in 1991, we have the famous Anita Hill testimony, which brings workplace harassment into
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the national spotlight. Fuck you, Claire. It's literally. We both deep sigh.
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If only if only people believe women imagine what we would be dealing with. Imagine. Just imagine.
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Imagine. Imagine. Imagine. In 1992, we have the year the woman in American politics.
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Come out. I don't know why that made me laugh.
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We're just if we don't laugh. If we don't laugh, we cry. Literally.
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In 1994, we have the right girl movement peaks combining punk rock and feminist ideologies.
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I love right girl music, dude. I listened to so much. I have a whole playlist that I listened to whenever
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I'm on my way to political advocacy events. And yes, fucking bumped. I listened to it with you in the car.
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Yes. And it was very happy. In 1996, the Spice Girls popularized the girl power message.
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And in 1998, sex in the city debuts, sparking discussions about female sexuality.
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Actually, in my gender study class, I wrote a paper about how each character of sex in the city
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really represents different female tropes and all of those things. And I think it was the maiden
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the horror, like the Madonna versus Horde. Yeah. And the different types of women that are allowed
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and accepted but still sexualized. And so I think HBO created an amazing show to really represent
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the change in women the way they were thinking, what it looked like to be 30 and be sexy.
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And still it's their own person while Charlotte is obsessed with getting married. I love sex in
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the city because you see someone like Samantha who. And they're still friends. Yes. Yeah, absolutely.
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And it is like, I mean, we've talked about that show so much on the podcast, but it's like a
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a moment in time, obviously, and it has its flaws. But for what it was when it first came out,
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it was revolutionary 100%. The 2000s digital age feminism. So in 2002, we have Eve Insler's
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the vagina monologues, which became a global phenomenon, which I've never seen. I actually
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haven't, but I know it as, you know, Ben Shapiro's worst freaking nightmare. Oh my god. That's for sure.
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Of course. 2006 social media platforms enable new forms of feminist activism. In 2008, 2008. Oh my
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god. Hillary Clinton ran for president in 2008 before Obama. She, she was trying to get the
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Democratic. I know I totally forgot. It just feels like so long ago. Oh my god. We hated women
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forever. Oh my god. I remember that. Actually, yeah, that was the first election I ever voted in.
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Now that I think about it. Yes. Hillary Clinton ran for president. I would say primary. In the
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primary, yes, she lost to Barack Obama, which was Obama. It's obviously a revolutionary candidate.
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2009 Lady Gaga emerges as a voice for gender and identity politics. And we love that. We love
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little monsters. Yes. Little monster. And then we enter into a term. We've probably heard quite
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often fourth wave feminism and social media. In 2011, we have Beyonce with her iconic run the world
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girls becomes our feminist anthem. In 2013, the launch of the lean in movement by Cheryl Sandberg comes
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out. Now I feel like today, there is a lot of push back against lean in. I do think that Cheryl Sandberg
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is an amazing CEO and woman, I figure with in business and with in tech and has a lot of value
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that she can provide and to have grown up like her Ted talk is really, really good. I haven't
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watched it. I don't think I've got that. Yeah. That of you. Yeah. Her Ted talk is really, really good.
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But for her to move her way up in such a tech driven world, I do think she is worth giving her
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flowers to even if she's not a perfect person. In 2015, Emma Watson's key for she campaign, she
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collaborated with the UN deeply. Really became an advocate for women and just overall.
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In 2017, we had the. Me to movement transform into a global phenomenon. I think we still see it today.
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Yeah. A lot of backlash to it today, which is awful. I remember when that first came out and
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everybody using that hashtag and everyone just kind of like you see it on as somebody's wall and
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you're like a fuck you too. That's what it is. Me too. Yeah. I think it really came for the movie
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industry. Not every Weinstein for sure. Not necessarily within the music industry in the way
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that we would want to. It was definitely a movie. We're starting to see that a lot more now with
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everything coming out with Diddy. Yeah. But hopefully we continue to expose abusers and believe
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women. 100%. That kind of goes into the next one too by the need me to move my hand. Yeah.
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And then in 2018, we have the Times up movement, which launches into the entertainment industry.
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Unfortunately, it was a lot of talk and we're still seeing a lot of abuse happening within these
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industries and a lot of people still glorifying individuals around this. Like if you I don't know
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if you saw the history of violence with Chris Brown that just got released and all of these things.
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But in 2019, a record, a record number of women in Congress generate media attention with their
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me two stories. Yes. And just entering into Congress and politics in general, trying to smash that
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glass ceiling, pushing back the 2020. So where we are now, contemporary developments that we're seeing
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in 2020, Kamala Harris did become the first female vice president, which I think is something that
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doesn't get enough. And firstly, first female president for 40 minutes. That's true. We did discuss
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this last night. Kamala Harris was president for 40 minutes. Well, Joe Biden had a colonoscopy.
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We did it, ladies. We did feminism assault racism done. We did it, Joe. We did it, Joe, for 40 minutes.
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40 minutes. 2021. Growing focus on intersectional feminism and media started to rise. In 2023,
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the Barbie movie sparks discussions about feminism and consumerism. And we have an episode on
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the Barbie movie. And it's actually our most into episode that we've ever had.
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Is that funny? I mean, I guess it makes sense because it's just such a global phenomenon.
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And people were calling it feminism 101, which honestly, I think is fine. If it's going to be an
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intro to people, I like, I have to keep telling myself, not other people are as entrenched as the
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feminist movement in politics as, you know, I am or other people might be. And that's fine. Yes.
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If the, you know, the Barbie movie was like, okay, feminism light, that's I think I think that episode
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we really go into the controversy at the time. And kind of the left and the right discussions
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argument. So I definitely recommend checking that out. I still want to think of the men. Yeah,
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if you have not listened to it, it's a great one. We really go into it. And we have a lot of fun
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in that as well. I love that movie. I want to name some of my favorite feminist pieces of
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pop culture. So we're going to take a quick break. And when we come back, we'll talk about some key
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themes at the intersection of pop culture and feminism as well as our favorite female representations
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in pop culture. So we both wore t-shirts today that represents some of our favorite feminist
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and pop culture and just female led movies and TV shows. I have Buffy the Vampire Slayer. Of course,
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she's my girl. And that kind of came out during the 90s when we talked about the girl power third wave
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feminism. Buffy represented you can be a girly girl and you know, date boys and wear skirts,
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but then also fight the forces of evil, right? Women are complicated. There can be many sides to us.
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Yes. Which I think like the themes still carry on to this day. And again, it's a moment in time
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in the show does have some parts that haven't aged as well as others, but overall like,
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greatest TV show of all time. No, no, yes. I agree. And I have the craft, which is one of the,
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I would say earlier representations of goth culture. Yeah. And just complex nuanced female characters
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who aren't only evil. They've experienced abuse that lead them to like this decision making and
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all these things. Honestly, I love watching. Right. I just rewatched it over Halloween and I realized
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that too. It's like you can say that Nancy's just a villain, but she's also going through abuse at
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home and obviously struggles with confidence as like all of the women do and learn their lessons.
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And the end. Yeah. We talked about sex in the city and you know, how it's represented feminism at
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the time and just like that, which kind of dropped the ball during it's a Tim set kind of being a
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little more intersectional with its feminism. I do think that there is much to be said about the
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intersection of like we are culture and feminism. So we get shows where we see more trans women
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represented more black women, obviously women of color taking the wheel, which is amazing. I'm trying
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to think of more of like everything I watch, I feel like it's kind of like a female. I need that.
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And we grew up with Disney princesses, right? Who were in the early days all having to be saved by
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the prince. And then during the 90s kind of came out with that girl power again, Mulan,
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Pocahontas, kind of. Yeah. Then we had Frozen who the sisters saved each other.
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Yeah. I didn't find husbands. Right. Like the main focus of that wasn't the romance. Same with
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Moana, right? And I see the pushback from the right and from men sometimes that they say,
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Oh gosh. Like now that even the female Eminem can't be sexy anymore. And all these movies are
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about female empowerment. So is that the right thing? Okay, Tucker Carlson. Let us know you have an
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Eminem King. You can't fuck this. It's fine. It's fine. You can just be into Eminem. It's fine.
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It's fine, bro. It's fine. Only your conservatives are going to judge you. Well,
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well, once you repent, you could fuck a bowl of him. And yeah.
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You've just, you know, joined the furry community. That'll accept you. Get a furry little Eminem.
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Oh my god. You know, I hate that pushback that we see. And it goes on decade after decade where
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no matter what advancement, feminism and the female rights movement seems to get, it's like
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there's someone there to be like, Oh, God, they're going to go to work. And then, Oh, God, we're going
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to let them vote. Well, that was before going to work. And oh, God, now we're going to let like
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black women vote and go to work in Hispanic women. And oh, my God. Now the trans women,
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when will it stop? Like, yeah, it was interesting. Actually, I saw a quote from Stevie Nex. The first
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time she ever voted was this election, actually. And I think of Stevie Nex as someone who is so
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feminist, so powerful, so witchy, right? And she said one of her deepest regrets is not voting. And so,
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you know, I think they're, you know, doing it now. Yeah. I think there is so much in our history of
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women being pushed down and less educated and things like that where, even the opportunities to be
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able to educate themselves, like we weren't able to take out credit cards until the 70s. We weren't
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able to divorce our husbands until like the 70s as well. Like go to college, get degrees,
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things like that. So it was just like you said, being pushed down. Yeah. Yeah. I think that, you
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know, despite where we may be going back to, we look at this timeline that we just gave there
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is so much growth for women. It's nice to read it when it's all laid out like that. Yeah.
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When we're having like, I feel for obviously we've both been mourning for the past week or so.
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I don't know when this will come out, but at this point, Donald Trump will be inaugurated as
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the next president. And that terrifies me. And I know that terrifies a lot of women, especially
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women of color who like have been leading the charge dude, like voting overwhelmingly opposed to him.
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And I know that leaves us all scared. And so it's nice to kind of look back on how far we've come and
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see where we have to go with that. Let's talk about some kind of like key themes throughout history
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where we see the intersection of feminism and pop culture. First, I'll talk about media
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representation of women. So the evolution of female characters in film and television,
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where it starts. I mean, you think back to like, I love Lucy Roy and she's the doding housewife.
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And obviously she's hilarious. And I think she's a feminist. I'm leading her own show. She has a
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friend who comes over. She can be sassy with her husband, but they're definitely sleeping in
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the separate beds. And she has to wear the makeup and the dresses every day and is very distinct
29:29
gender roles. And I was looking at old clips yesterday of Bewitch. Yes. And where Darren is talking to
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Samantha. That's the her name, right? Samantha the way to Samantha's mom. And
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he's like, well, I think that she'll be just fine if she doesn't use her witchcraft. And she's
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just going to be a normal lady. And her mom's like, why are you trying to stifle her? Shouldn't you
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love her for who she really is? And he just wants her to be a normal wife who stays home and cooks and
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cleans. And somebody commented that like Bewitch and I dream of Jeannie, which are such fun shows.
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Kind of represent like the male fantasy where you can marry this secretly powerful sexy woman.
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But with you, she's just going to be a regular broad who wants to talk about babies and cooking
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planes. So no one knows that she's secretly powerful, but you. And I never really thought about it
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that way. And then you know, throughout the 90s and 2000s, we kind of have the in 80s that
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don't be husband with like the really hot white one. So the Simpsons and Family Guy and all of that.
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And married with children, right? Yeah. Where oh, you don't worry. I'll take care of you, which was
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made fun of and Kevin can fuck himself. I've seen it, but I really want to watch the first season.
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And I really like it. And it goes kind of on that trope where the silly man child husband gets
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away with the most absurd things while she's just left pick up the pieces. Yeah. And then I know
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we've mentioned this on another episode, but like desperate housewives where we were allowing like
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complex women with children over a certain age to be portrayed and complicated and you know,
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nuanced and in all these things. They have flaws, but they're likeable, but they are also
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dislikeable. And like weeds, she is a single mom who sells weed. I love the first couple seasons.
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Yeah. Then I got bad. Then I got bad. The first couple seasons. Yeah. Gold.
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And then we see shows where there's a male main character who everybody roots for and then everybody
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just hates the woman for some reason. Yeah. Like I think breaking bad is one of the best television
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shows of all time. Yeah. The hate the skylar white. Yeah. It makes no sense. It makes no sense.
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If you just like take a step back. Well, it does because we're here. But we're here. We are.
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Her husband's literally lying to her and cooking meth. Like if you think about it,
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of course she's going to be pissed at him. Yeah. And then she kind of goes along with it for a while.
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Like what do you want from her? Yeah. Anyway, oh, France. Yeah. Changing portrayals and advertising. So
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you know, those commercials back in the day. Like my husband loves it when I use
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and love soap. Oh, I got this kind of egg so I can make breakfast for the whole family. And in the
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90s, you see a lot of diet commercials where it's like, oh, I lost 10 pounds to using special
32:35
gay cereal. Now it's and to age backwards. Yeah. It's like a 12 year old. Exactly. Before it was I'm
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not fat anymore. Now it's, oh, look, I'm 12. He wants me. Yeah. And women's voices and journalism
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and publishing have definitely changed over the years too. We've definitely seen a lot more. I mean,
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Barbara Walters, of course. And dance. Yeah. And Oprah, honestly. And maybe correct. Yeah.
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Ricky Lake. Yeah. Ricky likes a delight on Instagram, by the way. I don't know. Yeah. She's delightful.
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Yeah. So yeah. And then we move into the music industry. And you know, female musicians are the
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top settlers in every category. I mean, especially when it comes to pop music, like men not making good
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music. Non original thought. Not original. Yeah. Come on. Hot girl. Hot girl brat summer for
33:31
it. Yes. We're on the airs tour, high scrocing tour, which is why all of you then hate her. You know,
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you have Charlie X, the X and Troy, so fun, a gay man and a lovely British woman just crushing it.
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And you know, men step it up, right? Something original.
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Something good. Yeah. Dance. Yeah. I don't even care if you want to dance. Like I like, we used to be
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seen kids, like just make something good. Make something good. Make something good. Bring up the emo
34:04
music. I do love that there is an absolute take down of Zach Bryan happening right now.
34:09
Is he a country singer? He is a country singer. And he treated this thing. And it was like Kanye
34:15
over Taylor Swift, Eagles over chiefs, like, and it's one of their thing or whatever. And
34:21
guys, literally, yeah, it's like anti-symmetism over a. Oh, but, but he also just it's been exposed that
34:28
he would just abused his girlfriend, like terribly over the watch. The swifty's found that he has
34:34
stolen a lot of like the the beats from Taylor Swift songs. And you know that woman's looked at
34:40
just and I'm like, oh, honey, your most popular songs. They're all of his most popular songs. So
34:46
Hey, Jay. Hey, who is that other Morgan Wallen? Thank you. You knew exactly where I was going.
34:53
Who threw like a cherry on it. Also, dude, he's a piece of shit. Yeah. I mean, I do want to talk about
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fashion and body image a little bit and just kind of the changing beauty standards. I know we've
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talked about that a lot. It's impossible to keep up with what society and the media and pop culture
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tells us our bodies are supposed to look like right. And so I think that's important nuance take.
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And we've seen a lot more women, especially in like the Instagram and TikTok age.
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Social media can be toxic as hell, right? But at the same time, I have I find joy in watching
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the women who are like, I really don't care if you think this is what I look good in or if this
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is flattering to you. This is what I want to wear. This is what makes me happy. I will shape my hair
35:35
and dye my hair. Yeah, there's a lot bigger. The discussion of like dressing for the female gaze.
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Versus the male gaze. Yeah. Unfortunately, unfortunately, there's still a lot of women who can't
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erase that from their minds. Yeah, which is difficult to deal with. And I think a lot of like internalized
35:53
misogyny. Like we're top from a young age that we're supposed to look pretty for the boys. And
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just a certain way. So you'll find us. He's way into you because he likes you, which is bullshit.
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And then that kind of goes into this next one. It should the digital influence. So social media
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activism, online feminist communities, I'm really it helped grow my feminist like activism.
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Finding grades and marches and protests on Facebook events and getting really involved in
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Instagram communities and following influencers like this great influencer named deja Fox
36:30
who stood up to Jeff Flake years ago. And now she is a feminist influencer. Yeah, she's from Arizona.
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Just incredible. So as toxic as it can be, I think it can be. Yeah, you know, really empowering to
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especially for women. Yeah, absolutely. Well, before we wrap up, what is one feminist piece of media
36:54
that you want to recommend someone to watch? Yeah, those are going to be our pops this week. We're going
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to through all of the the darkness. I think that it's you know, that's why we wanted to do this
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episode. Why it's so important to see how far we've come to talk about how far we need to go.
37:10
We still need to increase our activism when it comes to women of color. We still need to break that
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glass ceiling of having a woman in charge and there's a lot to be said about trans women and, you
37:22
know, native women and the violence that they all face. So there's a long way to go, but I hope that
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this kind of makes people feel a little more hopeful that we've come so far. So the pop culture we're
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going to recommend today is going to kind of add to that. So I am going to pop a movie called The James.
37:39
It's a documentary that came out in 2022. The synopsis is an a free,
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robe-weight era female activists calling themselves Jane, build an underground network for women
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with unwanted pregnancies and provide low cost and free illegal abortions to an estimated 11,000
37:58
women. Yes, so that way when you if you found a poster if it was a word of mouth and you needed an
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abortion, which was illegal in this time, you call the number and say, hey, is Jane? And they would
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lead you to connecting to this woman, Jane, you know, no real names used, who would connect you with
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a healthcare provider who would take you somewhere and give you an illegal abortion. Study up, dude.
38:26
Study up, dude. Study up, everybody wants the Jane. We recreate the Jane network.
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Literally recreate the Jane wheel. So it's these women faced jail time and legal prosecution.
38:39
I mean, just the emotionality of just being with each other through all of this and dying from
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sepsis. I mean, hospitals in this time had full on sepsis wards for women who were dying of illegal
38:52
unsafe abortions trying to self abort. There's a lot to be said also about the safety of self abortions
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and people have been self aborting for centuries, but I will not go on that danger today.
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Yes, yes, yes, yes. But this is a very powerful documentary and I think very timely after the fall
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of row. So something that we can all watch and learn a bit from. Yeah, what about you?
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My pop for this week is she said at the New York Times journalist, Megan Tohee and Jody
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Cantor who reported and exposed the sexual allegations against Harvey Weinstein. This story is
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actually what started the Me Too movement. And it is such an amazing movie. It has Zoe Kazan and
39:37
Kerry Mulligan in it. Ashley Judd. And it was an amazing movie. I think it's going to be more
39:44
and more relevant as we go on. Yeah. To really uplift journalists. 100% was on.
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To piggyback off of that. I mean, free speech and journalism is going to be under attack over
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the four years. And I'm not just making that up. That has been said by the incoming administration.
40:01
From the anime within. Yeah. So listen to reputable sources and journalists and female journalists.
40:08
And while this week we have not been our normal funny silly goofy silly girls. I think we're still
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funny. Yes. We want to be a place where you can come and escape. And we wanted to do this
40:23
episode purely because you know, it is an important topic and we stand with women. We always will
40:29
stand with women. Yeah. And expect, you know, fun silly goofy things. But we will be here holding
40:37
space for all women and really anyone going through difficult time. Yeah. If you're anything like me,
40:44
I need to escape. My TikTok algorithm makes me want to like literally jump off a bridge. All I need
40:49
I just needed kitties and puppies. Yes. I just need stupid movies and kitties and puppies. So
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while this is an incredibly difficult time at next next episode we release we will try to have
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fun. We want to be in place where you can escape. But I always feel free to say like we want to
41:06
have an episode on this. We would love you to talk about this. 100% short and sweet. We're here for
41:12
you. We hold space for you and we love you. Yeah. Absolutely. And I know we're two white chicks
41:18
in Arizona. But like we like she said stand with all marginalized communities and just want to be
41:24
a place where we can all love each other and create peace and fight any kind of injustice that we see
41:29
wherever we see it for those that are you know kind and yes. And believe other people should have
41:36
rights. They imagine that. Imagine believing other people should have rights. Yes. All people. But then
41:41
also we all need to turn off our brains and watch some stupid reality shows and gossip about things
41:48
that really don't matter. I've been watching gossip. I know. And I needed something so stupid to
41:55
watch the other night. And I'm I might get canceled for saying this but we watched three amigos.
41:59
I never seen it. It was one of my husband's favorite movies growing up. Your husband's
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back. That's it. I said I was like well if he says it's okay. It's like he's the one he recommended it
42:10
and it was very stupid but I chuckled a lot. So watch some things stupid that'll make you
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chuckle this week. And on that note, I think it's time for us to jump on our feminist broomsticks and
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fly on out of here. We did that in the Halloween episode but I think that it's the same. Can I tell you
42:24
where the broomstick came from? Oh my god. Yes. I watched the video that you said please. Okay. Okay.
42:28
Okay. Olivia is going to talk us about broomsticks for like two seconds. So the
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I followed this account. It is so amazing. It's all of them.
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Pinkie history and so basically where the witches on broomsticks came from is women used to dip
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halus and eugenics into the broomstick and then put it up their lady parts and ride it to you
42:58
know, have stimulation and get highs balls and to distract them from the horrors and and the
43:05
drugs that they were doing were halusogenic drugs and so they were acting off freaky and weird.
43:12
And there was like that you must pay all your share which is on broomsticks became a thing because
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they were sexual. They were hallucinating and they were just having a grand. No, for the first time.
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Those are just naked tripping masturbating women. Yeah. Yeah.
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That's the end of the day. That's me after the summer. I was going to say which amongst
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us is not. That's going to be me for the next four years. Just tripping balls. Yeah. Like that.
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The barbituids. I needed them. The ma'am, your barbituids.
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I love that. I love this. Sorry. I heard broomsticks. No, it was a necessary interjection.
43:47
Don't leave me with that one. No regrets. That interjunction. No regrets.
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No regrets. Ladies, get your broomsticks. Get your elusinogenic. Yeah.
43:54
Get your dick. I'm right. Okay. Get your maybe maybe not the broomsticks. Yeah.
43:58
Yeah. Yeah. Yeah. These splinters. Ladies, think of the splinters. Yeah. Castle Megastore.com.
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Yeah. There you go. We need to get sponsored by a vibrator company. Yeah. Anyway, Olivia,
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that note. Tell everybody where they can find you. I'll be on Instagram @livimariez at
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